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EFF's Cell Phone Guide For US Protesters

Soulskill posted about a month and a half ago | from the do-not-use-your-cell-phone-as-a-projectile-weapon dept.

Electronic Frontier Foundation 82

An anonymous reader writes: The Electronic Frontier Foundation has updated its guide for protecting yourself and your cell phone at a protest. In addition to being extremely powerful tools (real-time communication to many watchers via social media, and video recording functionality), cell phones can also give authorities a lot of information about you if they confiscate it. The EFF is trying to encourage cell phone use and prepare people to use them. (The guide is based on U.S. laws, but much of the advice makes sense for other places as well.) Here are a few small snippets: "Start using encrypted communications channels. Text messages, as a rule, can be read and stored by your phone company or by surveillance equipment in the area. ... If the police ask to see your phone, tell them you do not consent to the search of your device. Again, since the Supreme Court's decision in Riley, there is little question that officers need a warrant to access the contents of your phone incident to arrest, though they may be able to seize the phone and get a warrant later. ... If your phone or electronic device was seized, and is not promptly returned when you are released, you can file a motion with the court to have your property returned."

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Better Idea (5, Informative)

sexconker (1179573) | about a month and a half ago | (#47687649)

Use a shitty pre-paid phone when you're out rabble rousing.
Wipe it before you leave the house.

Re:Better Idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687675)

Thats assuming you know your going to be protesting with enough lead time.

If you get caught up in a spontaneous protest your not going to have time to go out and by a disposable phone.

Re:Better Idea (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687693)

Thats assuming you know your going to be protesting with enough lead time.

If you get caught up in a spontaneous protest your not going to have time to go out and by a disposable phone.

1. This rarely happens.
2. Your regular phone is a tracking device. Keep this in mind at all times. If a protest is important enough for you to get involved in, then it should stick around long enough for you to go home and drop off your regular phone. Which shows you leaving the protest early, just in case the cops want to 'round up' the people who were involved.

Re:Better Idea (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687869)

I agree with 2, but 1 - not so much. Maybe. Possibly. It's happened to me (in the UK) and it's happened to a number of people I know (also UK) at different times.

A couple of examples: the British Prime Minister called for street parties to celebrate a royal event. Someone decided to hold a disco in a public park. Many people attended. The police - after letting it proceed for several hours (during which numbers grew) - decided to intervene. People taking happy, smiley pictures on their smartphones suddenly discovered that their phones were "evidence", and now in police possession. (The police intervention inevitably prompted a small but violent reaction from a small group of very drunk party-goers, but curiously the police attention was directed elsewhere - at known political radicals. Character references for one of those charged came from senior European politicians who described the arrests as politically motivated).

In my case (at a different incident) people recognised me as a "legal observer" and asked me to monitor a brutal arrest. I was unprepared, and ended up arrested and charged (the case was thrown out promptly, fortunately). But I was carrying my regular, smart, phone with me - not the usual throwaway "burner" I'd normally carry on actions.

My experience of smartphones and the police is - if the police want to arrest you, they probably won't do it when you're expecting it. If you're worried about this, never carry a smart phone (and have a good lawyer's phone number memorised).

Re:Better Idea (1)

Ean Bowman (3438945) | about a month and a half ago | (#47696565)

Rarely? By-standers get caught up in protest activities all the time. You're delusional if you think otherwise, sadly.

In such a situation, you're not there to protest but may be detained anyway for simply being outdoors in or near a neighbourhood that's under police control.

Trust me. You can't always plan for this kind of thing.

Re:Better Idea (2, Insightful)

epyT-R (613989) | about a month and a half ago | (#47687697)

Better to just not own/use a smartphone.. or a cellphone at all. It's still possible to do and retain a social life.

Spare me the "well everyone expects you to have one now" responses. We're all too caught up in choosing convenience over protecting ourselves from tyranny.

Re:Better Idea (5, Insightful)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about a month and a half ago | (#47687987)

It's a great idea to use a mobile phone at a protest. For a start they can upload video and photos in real-time, making it impossible for the cops to delete them. Encrypted messaging is a good way to organize a protest.

If you just take a camera you are both isolated and vulnerable to having to taken off you and wiped.

Re:Better Idea (1)

Zero__Kelvin (151819) | about a month and a half ago | (#47690559)

"Better to just not own/use a smartphone.. or a cellphone at all."

I'm going to second this exceedingly wise advice, and up it with some even better advice. When battling gunman, don't bring a gun. Someone might get shot!

Re:Better Idea (1)

GNious (953874) | about a month and a half ago | (#47687827)

Thats assuming you know your going to be protesting with enough lead time.

If you get caught up in a spontaneous protest your not going to have time to go out and by a disposable phone.

Try to not "get caught up" in random protests.

Re:Better Idea (4, Funny)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about a month and a half ago | (#47687741)

Wipe it before you leave the house.

Words to live by.

Re:Better Idea (3, Funny)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about a month and a half ago | (#47688035)

Wipe it before you leave the house.

Words to live by.

. . . or shake it three times. But if you shake it more than three times, you're playing with it.

Re:Better Idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47693191)

It's "if you shake it more than twice, you're playing with it."

You just ignored everything they try to solve (1)

ciaran_o_riordan (662132) | about a month and a half ago | (#47687839)

That doesn't address the desire to send text messages during protests without being eavesdropped .

Or the issue of documenting the event and not having your phone taken off you, thus losing all those pics/vids/etc.

Re:You just ignored everything they try to solve (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687991)

That doesn't address the desire to send text messages during protests without being eavesdropped .

Considering that all electronic communication is monitored I have yet to see anyone address that issue.
Heck, even this post is probably intercepted and stored in a database together with my IP in case someone randomly thinks that it might contain terrorist propaganda a few years from now.

Re:Better Idea (4, Informative)

nurb432 (527695) | about a month and a half ago | (#47688429)

Even better, buy it on the way to the protest. Using cash of course.

I didnt bother reading the EFF advice but if you take your own stuff to a demonstration, you are a fool. You never know what may happen, you go with a minimal amount of items with you. ID ( required to avoid many vagrant arrest laws ), a few bucks in cash for a burger if you are stuck waiting on a ride from jail ( or the hospital ).. Hide your car keys ON your car.. No jewelry or a watch. A few contact numbers in your pocket, in case you are unconscious when found.

Re:Better Idea (1)

sociocapitalist (2471722) | about a month and a half ago | (#47702315)

Even better, buy it on the way to the protest. Using cash of course.

I didnt bother reading the EFF advice but if you take your own stuff to a demonstration, you are a fool. You never know what may happen, you go with a minimal amount of items with you. ID ( required to avoid many vagrant arrest laws ), a few bucks in cash for a burger if you are stuck waiting on a ride from jail ( or the hospital ).. Hide your car keys ON your car.. No jewelry or a watch. A few contact numbers in your pocket, in case you are unconscious when found.

Don't you have to give ID even if you buy a prepaid (cash) ?

Re:Better Idea (1)

beastofburdon (1033548) | about a month and a half ago | (#47704465)

They will ask for it every time, but it is not legally required.

Re:Better Idea (2)

Z00L00K (682162) | about a month and a half ago | (#47688681)

Any old "brick" phone would be good.

If you want to coordinate when protesting - get FRS or PMR radios. Of course - the authorities can listen in, but the device don't store anything and learn to talk code and it will be unclear what you mean and who that said what.

As long as you don't do illegal stuff the authorities can't do much.

Re:Better Idea (2)

LVSlushdat (854194) | about a month and a half ago | (#47689807)

As long as you don't do illegal stuff the authorities can't do much.

VERY naieve attitude.. When you're dealing with one of today's militarised "police departments", what is actually "illegal" is pretty much up to the thug(s) you're dealing with.. Witness the many court decrees that the public can video law enforcement, assuming the pubic is not interferring with law enforcement.. Theres a HUGE loophole there, one you could drive a bus thru. If they don't like you video recording them, they can alledge that you're "interferring" and there seems to be nothing you can do about it... We now live in a police state... Prove me wrong, I DARE ya.. (I sure wish I was even wearing a tinfoil hat.. Tinfoil hat time is long past)....

Re:Better Idea (1)

Zeio (325157) | about a month and a half ago | (#47692565)

I like how we still think we can stop the police state with voting for politicians that support an expansion of police state power and doing "sneaky stuff" to try and get around the jackboots. IF its not already too late, the only way out of this horrible 1984 world we live in is to consider the government as the enemy of freedom and liberty rather than seeing it as something that can be fixed by playing by its rules.

Pretty interesting (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687691)

Pretty interesting about the electronical phone topics.
Thanks for informing.
Maik from http://escort-germany.de

Do this as well (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687701)

Do live streams so they cannot just erase your shit. I also have my phone encrypted with a one and done failed password shutdown and a extreme acceleration shutdown trigger as well, go ahead and grab it. I'm not really worried about the police my motivation is geared towards my phone being stolen.

Best (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687705)

The best advice anywhere in the world, is to NEVER go toa protest, unless you are a political science or law student and wish to make politics your life. For everyone else, it is best to stay faaaaar away.

Re:Best (5, Insightful)

epyT-R (613989) | about a month and a half ago | (#47687715)

If this is good advice, the government is tyrannical.

Re:Best (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687725)

Yes. Old folks voted for tyranny to keep the damn kids off their lawn.

Re:Best (2)

epyT-R (613989) | about a month and a half ago | (#47687789)

and politically illiterate college kids voted for tyranny to get free stuff.

Re:Best (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687843)

Does your definition of political illiteracy include the phrase "disagrees with me", by any chance?

Re:Best (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687853)

In the case of most college kids, I'd have to say yes.

Re:Best (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47688979)

Let's be honest here, President Obama promised these college students, many of whom are heavily indebted, that he would "fix" their student loan problems. They thought about it for 10 seconds and then decided to vote for him because even the merest hope that somehow they wouldn't have to pay off 40,000 in student loans was worth a shot and most of them figured that with the financial crash and the crappy economy they didn't have much left to lose anyway. Some of them are now coming to regret that decision, after five years of working at Starbucks and making payments on their mountain of non-productive debt, but too late as it turns out.

Re:Best (1)

whistlingtony (691548) | about a month and a half ago | (#47688645)

isn't hating knowledge, and the people who try to seek it, so much fun....

Re:Best (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687723)

The best advice anywhere in the world, is to NEVER go toa protest, unless you are a political science or law student and wish to make politics your life. For everyone else, it is best to stay faaaaar away.

Nonsense. You can meet hot chicks at protests.

Everywhere else there is a ticket you have to buy to get in.

Re:Best (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47688003)

Nonsense. You can meet hot chicks at protests.

Yes, but they are all into politics.

But sure, I you fancy the crazies then why not.

Re:Best (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687751)

good idea, If we all hide in our house's it will get better right?

If you feel strongly enough you need to get out there and make your voice heard, One person can do very little but a large group of people giving up their time to a cause can change to world.

Re:Best (0, Troll)

ShanghaiBill (739463) | about a month and a half ago | (#47687845)

good idea, If we all hide in our house's it will get better right?

Protests are not the only way to change society. The black people in Ferguson would likely improve there lives more if, rather than looting and burning the corner grocery store, they registered to vote.

Re:Best (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687859)

oh yea, because democracy works in an oligarchy. They would be better off supporting 1 person and getting them employed by google then asking if google would support a reform of the area, this actually has a chance of success.

The other option is exactly what they are doing, getting international attention by going on a rampage, the area will suddenly get all the support it needs and additional funding.

Re:Best (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687837)

Like my mom told me when I was 12: "Don't go to protests. Don't go to rallies. If people from school want to do that just come home or call me so I can pick you up." I still think that is the best advice. Other people can get themselves shot if they want. Note that I'm not from america and in my country protesting wasn't so much about chanting and marching peacefully as it was about burning effigies and breaking shit.

Re:Best (1)

Z00L00K (682162) | about a month and a half ago | (#47688709)

On the contrary - but do protest in the right way, don't start to burn things you don't own.

Symbols are sometimes stronger than speech.

If the cops orders you to disperse - do that and regroup instead. It will be hard for the police to make sense of anything if you act as a murder of crows always returning to the food by new paths.

Re:Best (2)

AHuxley (892839) | about a month and a half ago | (#47692787)

Re: "For everyone else"
The problem is you may have to pass that area under cell tracking for some unrelated reason.
Every user that turns their phone off (battery out or turned off) near the tracked protest area will be looked at ie you where educated about tracking and wanted to enter a protest zone without your phone on.
Thats the problem with any cell device. A a vast area of use is reconstructed by gov and mil experts every phone is going to be considered.
Powered on at the protest.
Powered off before entering the protest area.
Walking to or with a person who was at the protest site or also had their phone off in a guilty way near the protest area.
The cell use map will massive over a wide area and over time. To catch people arriving early, late, meeting people or walking to or from an event.
Did they steam, upload media? If so what, where and how and to what network, where they given data to stream further way trying to hide the person who captured the true optics of the event for the press and a wider world.

protesters? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687707)

Protesters? In America? You must be joking. The only thing these Oligarchy Movement protesters are protesting is the amount of their cell phone bill. "Too high!" they say. "I not pay!" they say. "Freedom from phone bill!" they say. These protesters aren't protesters, they're organized beggars.

Re:protesters? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687727)

watching too much foxnews again? OWS might be thoroughly lefty, but there are plenty of issues worth protesting about, like atrophy of liberty and due process rights..

Re:protesters? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687745)

atrophy of liberty and due process rights..

I have the right to money, in my pocket, right now! There's "liberty" and "god we trust" printed on it, and that's what I want! Gimme gimme gimme!

- every Occupy "protester"

Re:protesters? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687779)

nope. I don't think that's what they were advocating. They just want a government not run by the bankers.

Re:protesters? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687815)

Cool story bro. I was there. I saw them graffiti the cell phone stores to protest their phone bills, because I was there. I saw them yelling outside the banks to demand money, because I was there.

They want money. The bankers have money. They want the money. Now.

Re:protesters? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687829)

well perhaps they feel the money the banks have gotten rich on actually belongs to the taxpayers... It's not too far from the truth considering the massive debt we're in now.

Re:protesters? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687873)

No, they see the banks as Scrooge McDuck's money bin and they want in.

If they cared about deficit spending they'd advocate balanced budgets and higher taxes to pay off the debts. If they cared about the taxpayers they'd advocate not spending tax revenues on pointless wars. They don't advocate these things because they don't care about anything. They're selfish idiots who want money, money, money.

Re: protesters? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687907)

Automaton

Re: protesters? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47688593)

You've never actually read anything from the occupy groups have you? You're just coughing up a canned opinion from whatever opinion mill news channel you favour, right?

Re:protesters? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47691249)

They do protest things like wars but then you call them dirty hippies.....

See how they can't win?

Some obvious (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687713)

1. Use a burner phone if you're doing quasi-legal stuff
2. If you're going to film police or protestors, make sure the images are uploaded to a cloud server in real time, not stored in a retrievable manner on the device. This is only really doable on a jailbroken Android device, but what you do is have the pictures "magically vanish" using a script on the phone that copies the files to a remote server and then removes them from the device.
3. Livestream instead and have someone remotely save the video as it happens.

2 and 3 are probably not doable on prepaid data plans for obvious reasons, but if you're going to start trouble you should probably not implicate yourself in a crime.

Re: Some obvious (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47688097)

Useless. If you upload the images to a cloud server and you are arrested, they will force the password out of you. Remaining silent or saying "I don't remember it" will only get you an intimate meeting with Mr Truncheon until you see the light. If the protest is against important enough people or institutions, the government will force the cloud operators to wipe them because "security" and "patriotic duty". If you use your own cloud service, your house will be raided because "drugs" or "terrorism" and your server destroyed along with most of your possessions. Any people cooperating with you will have their lives destroyed along with your own because "child pornography". But the point is moot because soon enough the police will carry scramblers. You can't fight City Hall, especially when City Hall has guns, tanks, helicopters and drones. Stay home. Watch TV.

STOLEN, not "confiscated". (5, Insightful)

jcr (53032) | about a month and a half ago | (#47687717)

Confiscation is legal. When a pack of thugs in costumes takes your phone to keep you from exposing their crimes, they're stealing your phone, not confiscating it.

-jcr

Re:STOLEN, not "confiscated". (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | about a month and a half ago | (#47687743)

Evidence that gets shelved for years. So technical it's a confiscation, but it's more like theft in that you won't see it again for quite some time.

Re:STOLEN, not "confiscated". (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47692015)

Careful. That sounds like intelligent and well-thought-out logic, right there, and we don't stand for that kind of stuff from citizens in the USA.

Alter the phone so standard tools won't work (5, Interesting)

mysidia (191772) | about a month and a half ago | (#47687805)

For example, take steps to disable 'data communication ports on the device that you don't use.

Disable the ability to pair over USB or bluetooth.

Use nonstandard filesystems.

Analysts attempting to execute an illegal search of your device are not going to be "technical gurus"; too few of those to go around.

They'll be using standard software tools they bought from some vendor.

Make sure no "standard" tools will work as expected on your device, and their costs go up tremendously.

Re:Alter the phone so standard tools won't work (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687887)

If you have access to surface mount equipment, just modifiy your USB jack to use a flopped cable and add a couple surface mount (grain of dust-sized) diodes to the +/- power lines (think half-wave rectifier bridge). Do it right, and this also "booby-traps" it to "short" any standard USB cable. Either pops the current limiter on the host USB controller or HMCF's their motherboard.

I do know of a couple folks that have "do I recognize this host?" checking software running on their phones.

Gotta love surface mount tech.

Re:Alter the phone so standard tools won't work (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47688031)

Either pops the current limiter on the host USB controller or HMCF's their motherboard.

Worst case scenario for them: The computer resets.
Normal case with any motherboard that wasn't bought from a no-name vendor a decade ago: The IC controlling the USB port power will detect overcurrent, disconnect the port and set the overcurrent flag. This usually leads a small pop-up box on the screen that complains about faulty USB-device.

Either way, if they want to get access to the phone they just send it in for reparation.
If you really want to make it hard for them you flip the USB-port upside down. If you have good soldering equipment and do a professional job you might get it good enough so that it isn't obvious for someone looking at the PCB that it has been tampered with. The repair-guy might not be able to figure out what is wrong unless he has another phone of the same brand next to yours and try to switch the cable between them.

Re:Alter the phone so standard tools won't work (1)

GTRacer (234395) | about a month and a half ago | (#47693805)

Umm... You're talking about physically flipping the USB port, right? To essentially physically obfuscate the connection in the hopes they try their cable and give up?

Aside from that old chestnut "Security through obscurity isn't security," when's the last time you plugged in a USB cord right on the first try?

Pretty much every device I have where the cord isn't already bent into position gets the push / fail / flip / push / fail / flip / crap it was right the first time treatment.

Re:Alter the phone so standard tools won't work (1)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about a month and a half ago | (#47687993)

A phone with wireless charging is really good for this. You can remove or break the USB port and still charge it up. Ideally you need to sabotage it in a way that is impossible to repair.

Re:Alter the phone so standard tools won't work (2)

Registered Coward v2 (447531) | about a month and a half ago | (#47688047)

A phone with wireless charging is really good for this. You can remove or break the USB port and still charge it up. Ideally you need to sabotage it in a way that is impossible to repair.

While nothing is impossible to repair I'd go with corroding or breaking the terminals and then epoxying the port closed. That would prevent them from using many of the systems now available for grabbing phone data. the challenge s how do you then get data off the phone and out to the world? You'd still have to leave a path into the phone that can be exploited.

Re:Alter the phone so standard tools won't work (1)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about a month and a half ago | (#47691095)

You use wireless to get the data out. Just make sure that you only turn it on for data transfer, and then turn it off again. Make sure it is turned off when the take it away from you.

Re: Alter the phone so standard tools won't work (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47688113)

You tech-heads are so cute. You think technical solutions can solve anything. They can't read your phone? Too bad... For you. They will pressure you to break it for them, and you will yield. You're not Neo or some fictional hero. You're an overgrown kid playing with the Big Boys. A couple of minutes of "vigorous" interrogation and you will be their bitch.

Re: Alter the phone so standard tools won't work (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47692243)

The proper solution is a dead man's switch. Your safety net should not assume that you are conscious and able to participate in your defense. It should also have some way of being informed that you are no longer a nice person and will cooperate in attempts to attack it.

Technology doesn't solve "anything" or everything. Technology solves specific problems. Like how to allow knuckleheads to troll on Slashdot with ease and impunity. Score: +3 (decent troll)

Re: Alter the phone so standard tools won't work (1)

david_thornley (598059) | about a month and a half ago | (#47696743)

The amount of intimidation the police can get by with on a general basis is rather limited. This doesn't apply if they're specifically out to get you personally, but if you're just caught up in a sweep they'd be much happier to read your phone without your assistance, and they're very likely not bothering with phones they can't read by themselves.

size matters (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687847)

Bring a SMALL phone, preferably of the old candy-bar shape. You never know where you may have to hide it.

Re:size matters (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47687885)

Why not keep your phone in your vagina all the time? Your period, that's why.

Re:size matters (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47688221)

Will the radiation cause sterility?

funny captcha: tightest

Occam's Razor (2)

DaMattster (977781) | about a month and a half ago | (#47688173)

Only apply the simplest amount of technology to remain efficient. This is a case where too much technology is the enemy. Go back to CB, Amateur, and walkie talkie radio for communication. Use a camera that can record to an SD card and periodically switch out the card and find a safe place to "dead drop" it. This way, the police can glean very little, if anything at all.

Re:Occam's Razor (4, Funny)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about a month and a half ago | (#47688217)

Go back to CB, Amateur, and walkie talkie radio for communication.

And learn to speak Navajo.

Re:Occam's Razor (1)

AHuxley (892839) | about a month and a half ago | (#47692807)

Yes just like the Western press did watching East Germany respond to protests. Keep the the media safe, get it out for broadcast.

you do not want it back (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47688189)

If your phone or electronic device was seized, and is not promptly returned when you are released, you can file a motion with the court to have your property returned.

No, if your phone was seized and left your sight, you must consider it to be compromised. You can not use it again and therefor it has now value to you anymore.

We need a change in law that recognizes this fact, giving the original owner the option to either have the property returned or a monetary reimbursement instead.

Re:you do not want it back (1)

AHuxley (892839) | about a month and a half ago | (#47692813)

Every connection to that device is now databased or waiting to be collected.

niggWa (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47688245)

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carry 'n change (3, Insightful)

Mister Liberty (769145) | about a month and a half ago | (#47688307)

The only sensible thing to do, imo (aside from not carrying anything that can ID you), from /both/ the standpoint of
personal privacy, /and/ from the standpoint of adding to a protest's effectiveness (something just a bit lost in the
EFF article), is to bring just the cheapest dumb phone that you can find, and at the site immediately exchange it
with another protestor unknown to you, for his/hers. Shortly test both, and you're on.

Re:carry 'n change (1)

matbury (3458347) | about a month and a half ago | (#47689029)

Yes, burners are a tried and trusted way to achieve temporary anonymous communication at an event, like a protest. Just make sure you get rid of the phone before you go home!

The fact is that these days the police are often given carte blanche to do whatever they like with people at or near protests. Your rights more than likely won't be upheld while they try to disrupt the protest.

There are times when your own smartphone can be handy too as long as you manage your privacy well (you shouldn't have your whole personal life on your phone or on social media anyway). As others have mentioned, being able to stream video and audio to a remote server in real time is a powerful tool in your favour. However, you have to be sure that you can trust whoever your streaming it through and who's storing it, i.e. Will your network provider or the storage service block it on request from law enforcement?

Video and audio evidence seem to be the most powerful tools in social movements and challenging institutional abuse and criminal behaviour, e.g. unwarranted assaults on peaceful protesters or killing people of colour by escalating minor infractions of the law into confrontations and conflicts. You don't need a smartphone to do that. Digital cameras are small, cheap, produce high quality video and audio, and are especially easy to use discreetly (You can also get ones that have no BlueTooth or WiFi connectivity so can't be traced, monitored, or compromised remotely); you don't usually have to hold it up and look at it to go through any menus to start recording, just hit a button and you're up and running.

Also, you may not want to alert the police that you're filming the event (unless the intention is to prevent the crime from escalating any further). Start recording and leave it on a lanyard around your neck or in a top pocket with the lens poking through.

Also, store data on removable memory cards (and bring lots of spares - they're cheap and tiny) so that you can quickly remove and pass on to other trusted people or hide in the event that you think you may be compromised.

If everyone uses different devices, techniques, and strategies, the police will have more to deal with and less of an idea of how to manage it, leaving you to get on with protesting and documenting what happens, distributing the evidence, and making sure that the corporate media has fewer opprotunities to misrepresent peaceful, lawful, and very necessary democratic participation.

Perfect solution (1)

Rick Zeman (15628) | about a month and a half ago | (#47688789)

Block all cell signals so the looters can't send their movies anywhere. That's illegal, you say? And looting and pillaging isn't?

Re:Perfect solution (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47689525)

Block all cell signals so the looters can't send their movies anywhere. That's illegal, you say? And looting and pillaging isn't?

Yes, because the people who would read and use the EFF guide are the exact same time of people burning and breaking things in Missouri right now.

You're a cunt.

Re:Perfect solution (1)

Zero__Kelvin (151819) | about a month and a half ago | (#47690609)

"Block all cell signals so the looters can't send their movies anywhere. That's illegal, you say? And looting and pillaging isn't?"

Yes, because the reason people want video of what actually happens is to prove that they were breaking the law! They certainly don't want footage of the cops breaking the law! Oh no. That would be foolish! Foolish I say. Everyone know cops don't break the law! Nixon minimized the facts! It's not just true that it's not illegal if the President does it. Oh no. It's not illegal if a cop does it! If someone steals some cigars, why that's illegal! Now if a cop shoots the criminal, he isn't breaking the law. No sir! He's just doing his job! His job is to stop crime, and if he has to kill people to save a few cigars, well I for one am all for it!

Signed - Some idiot dick Zeman

motion? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47689149)

How do I file a motion? Do I fill out a form telling which way the phone went? In physics, motion is a change in position of an object with respect to time and its reference point. Motion is typically described in terms of displacement, direction, velocity, acceleration, and time. Motion is observed by attaching a frame of reference to a body and measuring its change in position relative to that frame.

Trojan Horse (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47689715)

Bring a burn phone with a camera. Add software to it to give it a "duress" mode. When the duress mode is activated, it starts recording and videoing everything and uploading it to a public server in a foreign country so long as it has power. Then let the police confiscate it. It will be interesting to hear what they say when they think no one is listening.

It wouldn't hurt to put a bunch of viruses on it as well. Preferably some that spread via Bluetooth as well as USB. It would make dealing with confiscated phones very expensive for the police, and maybe they will stop doing it after they get infected a few times.

Re:Trojan Horse (1)

q4Fry (1322209) | about a month and a half ago | (#47690907)

What do you think they will do to you after you've messed with their computer system? I am fairly certain that they can get you under CFAA, minimum, let alone find a way to put you under the anti-terror laws.

You may be harder skinned than I am, but malware-bombing "the man" just to make a point while they are as likely as not to have you in custody at the time is way too far on the cost:outcome ratio than I would be comfortable trying. Maybe if you can convince strangers on the internet to try it, you come out ahead... wait.

Re:Trojan Horse (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month and a half ago | (#47692721)

Just going to go out on a limb, but an Android phone having a virus should be pretty god damn deniable.

Re:Trojan Horse (1)

JockTroll (996521) | about a month and a half ago | (#47692917)

You are aware that electronic devices are forensically imaged (just like computers and any digital media storage) and not just hooked up like you do when you're backing up your phone, aren't you? I'd say no. You've seen too many movies and TV shows and now you think you're Neo. Reality is going to hurt when a bunch of cops will be laughing at you, just before they beat you up and shit on your face.
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