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Where is Largest Linux Desktop Install?

Cliff posted about 13 years ago | from the top-bird-o-the-icefloat dept.

Linux Business 606

jackb_guppy asks: "Talking with Managers about Linux Training for staff. One asked a simple question: 'Where is the largest installed base of Linux desktops?' My guess the question was asked prove that there is no market, and I am unable to find an answer. I am guessing the next question will be: 'Largest site using Linux to replace MS desktops?' Anyone have a suggestion?" Just for fun, if any of you have Linux Desktops deployed in your department, can you give us some numbers?

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Furst! (-1, Troll)

cyborg_munkee (525540) | about 13 years ago | (#2373901)

This is my very furst post!

Re:Furst! (-1, Offtopic)

cyborg_munkee (525540) | about 13 years ago | (#2373936)

I am not wearing pants.

Let's see if I can be a complete b00b! (-1, Flamebait)

cyborg_munkee (525540) | about 13 years ago | (#2373957)

Yup! I can! cyborg_monkey is a complete asswipe.

Re:Let's see if I can be a complete b00b! (-1)

Jebus_the_spork (449174) | about 13 years ago | (#2374148)

your assault on my ally will not go un-noted

This'll hurt my karma :) (4, Funny)

Quasar1999 (520073) | about 13 years ago | (#2373911)

4... out of 27 computers... pittiful... but we develop drivers for Windows... so I guess it's ok...

Bah, I'm not a troll... (0, Offtopic)

Quasar1999 (520073) | about 13 years ago | (#2373968)

Hey, show me how to make a living developing drivers for linux and I'd be all over it...

Moderate Quasar1999 down! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2374038)

Forgot to check "Post Anonymously"? Replying to your own post? Pathetic.

Moderators! Punish this idiot!

Re:Moderate Quasar1999 down! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2374112)

Leave him be. You want to gripe about him go to A.S.R and have done with it.

Re:This'll hurt my karma :) (0, Flamebait)

gazbo (517111) | about 13 years ago | (#2374037)

Oh, no, please stop trolling me. 4 out of 27? Mod him down further.

If he'd said 0 out of 27 would that be flamebait? Maybe 26 out of 27 is insightful. Perhaps 20 out of 27 and providing a link to his company's homepage would be informative?

I guess somebody must've been giving mod points to cyborg_monkey or something.

Back on topic, we've possibly got a similar story to many companies: desktop pcs are all Win2k, but all development/web/file servers run RedHat.

I don't claim to have the biggest deployment of Linux, this post was mainly to rant at dumb moderators.

try 0 (-1)

ArchieBunker (132337) | about 13 years ago | (#2374097)

My firewall runs OpenBSD, my laptop runs NetBSD and my Alpha runs FreeBSD. 100% linux fundie free and proud of it. Oh yeah my main desktop runs win2k 100% of the time and doesn't crash. I can install software without worrying about failed compiles or trying to upgrade libf00 without breaking app blahblah just to app doh can run.

That gov't article a while back (2, Informative)

Amezick (102131) | about 13 years ago | (#2373914)

Search slashdot for government, florida, linux, desktop. There was an article about a town replacing all their MS stuff with linux stuff.
--Angus

Re:That gov't article a while back (2, Informative)

JabberWokky (19442) | about 13 years ago | (#2373959)

There was an article about a town replacing all their MS stuff with linux stuff.

Nope. They were replacing CDE with KDE. The article on the dot can be found here [kde.org] , and I can't find the article on Slashdot on Google, and Slashdot's seach is *still* broken.

"The City of Largo is a thin client/X shop [which supports] 400 thin client devices that support X, 800 total users, and run about 230 concurrently during the heaviest part of the day."

--
Evan

Re:That gov't article a while back (1)

stevew (4845) | about 13 years ago | (#2373989)

Well - they didn't replace windows, but the were running Linux on the Desktop. So that would fit the basic requirement.

Don't forget - Thin Clients count for the "Desktop" just as surely as a full PC does.

Re:That gov't article a while back (2, Informative)

LordWoody (187919) | about 13 years ago | (#2374050)

Here is a (the?) /. story on the City of Largo, Florida: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/08/13/124823 3&mode=thread [slashdot.org] .

It has several links with complete information. The short of it is that most of the city's employees use Linux as their day to day OS.

3 possibilities (3, Funny)

tech81 (128914) | about 13 years ago | (#2373917)

Either 1) some university 2) IBM or 3) the collective OSDN offices. . .

Our Grand Total: 1 (2, Interesting)

Leif_Bloomquist (311286) | about 13 years ago | (#2373919)

Our operation runs completely on Windows 2000. However, I have set up one old PC with Linux (Redhat 7.1) so that everyone who wants to can give it a spin.

Furst reply to a furst p0st! (-1, Offtopic)

cyborg_munkee (525540) | about 13 years ago | (#2373921)

w00t!

Colleges (2)

XBL (305578) | about 13 years ago | (#2373928)

My university has virtually every machines dual-boot Debian + NT. Does that count? Lotsa computers but NT gets used 99% of the time ;-)

Greetings from Europe (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2373931)

I'm very drunk on a Monday evening. I did not understand your question. Could you repeat it please?

Re:Greetings from Europe (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2373956)

I'm very drunk on a Monday morning. However, slashdot's grammar is so bad that I don't think sobriety would help to understand what they mean to say.

The city of Largo, FL has switched (5, Informative)

McVeigh (145742) | about 13 years ago | (#2373938)

Largo has switched about 800 desktops to linux using thin clients. They use balsa for e-mail and KDE for the desktop. links here [consultingtimes.com] and here [kde.org]

Re:The city of Largo, FL has switched (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2373951)

balsa for e-mail

Does it still leak memory like crazy?

Re:The city of Largo, FL has switched (0, Offtopic)

hyperstation (185147) | about 13 years ago | (#2373963)

kmail is much better than balsa, imho

Re:The city of Largo, FL has switched (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2374017)

I agree (I'm the AC you replied to).

Balsa used to eat all the memory and crash.

The easy integration of kmail with GnuPG was another bonus.

Re:The city of Largo, FL has switched (0, Offtopic)

pinkelefant (471762) | about 13 years ago | (#2374072)

what i need is a email client which can access microsoft exchange..Mails,Calendar,Contact..everything..
anybody can suggest one ?

till then i am stuck with windows..

Re:desktop email clients....sylpheed (1)

BLAG-blast (302533) | about 13 years ago | (#2374151)

> balsa for e-mail

Does it still leak memory like crazy?

I used to be a Balsa fan until I discovered Sylpheed...

http://sylpheed.good-day.net/ [good-day.net]

It's the best GTK based email client I've seen anywhere. Check it out....

Oh really? (0)

cyborg_munkee (525540) | about 13 years ago | (#2373971)

The plural of Largo is Largo, not Largos.

+1 Funny on the MQR standard (1)

MarkusQ (450076) | about 13 years ago | (#2374043)

In the spirit of free-as-in-chaos, I have instituted my own private ranking system. You get +1 for funny on this, thought I admit it took me a minute to get it.

-- MarkusQ

Re:+1 Funny on the MQR standard (-1)

trollin4jesus (142136) | about 13 years ago | (#2374085)

please explain it to me.

god i hate the new annoying checks in slashcode. if i can ask a question in less than 20 seconds there must be something wrong with me.

Re:+1 Funny on the MQR standard (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2374103)

Think popular toys.

Any follow ups planned? Any results? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2374137)

It would be nice to see how they fared after the switch. Did everyone run screaming from the building? Is everyone happy as a clam? Has everyone's productivity doubled or halved? Have the support costs done the same?

I know it's early, but it would be nice to see some results.

On my 3m projector (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2373941)

I have a big 3 by 4 meter projector, i display the desktop on my wall.

I think it must be the biggest desktop in use.

Re:On my 3m projector (1, Flamebait)

Rysc (136391) | about 13 years ago | (#2374150)

Can you read text very well that way? I know the pron must be fantastic, but what about the eyestrain?

Development Shop (3, Informative)

kevin@ank.com (87560) | about 13 years ago | (#2373944)

In my last project we had about 80 developers about half of whom were running linux on at least one of their boxes; so 40 desktops (admittedly specialized). It won't be the biggest installation by far, but I was genuinely surprised by the level of interest among other developers here.

The largest installed base (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2373949)

Are belong to MS.

As one of their former 'softies' who worked in the WinLuX division, I have signed quite a few NDAs preventing me from talking about it, but let's just say they've got a fairly large group devoted to "bringing Linux to the masses".

The WinsBD group isn't quite as big.

Counter-question (-1, Offtopic)

SLOGEN (165834) | about 13 years ago | (#2373950)

Where is the largest installment of WinME?

(Not counting the producer, Microsoft -- of course).

--
Helge Jensen

Re:Counter-question (1)

chargrilled (468628) | about 13 years ago | (#2373991)

Not trying to be a troll or anything, but as far as a corp. desktop goes, WinMe wouldn't really be in any, since it's really a "home" OS.

Re:Counter-question (1)

Catskul (323619) | about 13 years ago | (#2373995)

There really is no point to this question. Since Windows has the majority of the market share, the question is trivial. There are tonnes of places that use MS's latest by default.

Not WinME, but Win98.... (1, Offtopic)

NetJunkie (56134) | about 13 years ago | (#2374034)

The Postal service runs Win98 right now and that's 80K workstations.

my living room!! (1, Offtopic)

turbine216 (458014) | about 13 years ago | (#2373961)

let's see...i've got my main PC running Debian, and my roommate's PC running RedHat 7.1...the Unreal Tournament server runs RedHat 6.2, and I guess you can count the SmoothWall router distribution too, so that makes 4.


There you have it...with 4 PC's (and one on the way), it's the world's largest installation of PC's running nothing but Linux!!

try cisco (2, Offtopic)

agentzer0 (468835) | about 13 years ago | (#2373962)

I seem to remember an announcement about Cisco switching all of their workstations to linux. Try searching slashdot... i think that's where i heard it.

Certainly a persuasive argument, i would think.

Re:try cisco (2, Informative)

jannotti (37522) | about 13 years ago | (#2374000)

Sorry, not true. I work there.

HP uses linux... (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2373970)

In the lab I am at @ HP, we probably have 200 Linux workstations being used, and th enumber is increasing every month as money is tight. We are replacing many of the Unix workstations with Linux, because why buy a $20,000 workstation, when a $1500 Linux workstation can do 'all that and more"? All of our development software now runs on linux, and everyone seems to like it.

Re:HP uses linux... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2374071)

I bet that does wonders for HP's Unix Workstation business...

Re:HP uses linux... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2374115)

Could be why money is tight now...

For Tech Staff Only... (1, Interesting)

IversonDM (243089) | about 13 years ago | (#2373979)

We've deployed Mandrake 8.0 for our technical staff (the IS group), but we don't yet have any plans to use linux for our "normal" users. At this point just unzipping a file can still be too complicated for some, so at least sticking to something they use at home is helpful. Also I've had stability issues with nautalis on Red Hat 7.1 with Ximian, and on KDE with Mandrake 8.0. The users would need a fair amount of training to be able to deal with troubleshooting in the new enviornment...

Our small software company is mostly Linux-based. (1)

pomakis (323200) | about 13 years ago | (#2373980)

Of the six senior software developers in our company (CubeWerx, Inc. [cubewerx.com] ), five of us use Linux as our primary (and in most cases, only) operating system. The suits still use Microsoft Windows, but that's mostly because they don't know any better. :-)

Numbers don't mean squat... (3, Insightful)

FortKnox (169099) | about 13 years ago | (#2373982)

This isn't something you should use to determine Linux's strengths. I've contracted for a company that makes a cross-platform program. We all used windows, but had exceed for a solaris box and a linux box to make those ports.

Why? Because its easier for the IT managers to buy a bunch of windows boxes they are familiar with, and dump exceed on them, than having a buncha linux boxes with some type of windows viewer.

Re:Numbers don't mean squat... (1)

FortKnox (169099) | about 13 years ago | (#2374012)

Whoops, that "submit button" doesn't do a preview very well. I wasn't finished. DOH!

I think this shows linux's strength, though. We made an entire port to linux with only one box with several dozen coders all hitting it at the same time. If we woulda had one NT box with every developer hitting it from linux, it'd die a painful, memory depleted death.

Numbers DO mean squat... (1)

Catskul (323619) | about 13 years ago | (#2374047)

If Linux gains enough market share, all linux users [as well as everyone else ;)] will be better off: More software companies porting and creating sofware for linux [games], More hardware compatablity, More technical companies conforming to open standards, More competition for MS, Media coverage and mind share for Open Philosophies.

Re:Numbers DO mean squat... (1)

Catskul (323619) | about 13 years ago | (#2374075)

Actually, it shouldnt be "numbers do mean squat".
The title should have been "Numbers mean allot".
the double negative(kinda) of the previous post confused me : ) Sorry

Re:Numbers DO mean squat... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2374088)

Numbers mean allot

That's either the most subtle pun I've ever read or you don't know what you are typing.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. +1 Funny!

Roughly 12 (2)

SCHecklerX (229973) | about 13 years ago | (#2373985)

Where I used to work, many of us used Linux as our desktop, and all of us used linux for the actual job (monitoring network packets, custom filters, custom network sniffing, etc)

In addition to those desktops, we used linux for test nodes (the company tests commercial firewalls and VPNS)...so at least 130 linux boxes there, probably more.

The company also used linux/freebsd for much of its network infrastructure (pop, smtp, dhcp, dns, etc). This was mixed in with microsoft exchange and NT/2000 file/print servers.

Korean Air? (4, Informative)

drDugan (219551) | about 13 years ago | (#2373988)

news at http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/news/ pressreleases/2001/zseries_koreanair_pr_071601.htm l

Seoul, Korea, July 16, 2001 -- Korean Air, Korea's national flagship airline, and IBM today announced that Korean Air has completed the first phase of developing its core business applications running on Linux for the IBM.

Korean Air's Flight Schedule Enquiry System and the Daily Revenue Accounting System employ Linux on IBM hardware and software.

The enquiry system provides flight crew members with on-line real-time flight schedule information, which they can update anytime. More than 3,000 Korean Air pilots and flight attendants are currently using the system.

_______

I also heard some talk about the government of Mexico, but that was recently and there may not have been progress there.

Corrected link (4, Informative)

matty (3385) | about 13 years ago | (#2374076)

FYI, Slashcode adds spaces to any word over a certain length so that the tables line up properly. When you have a long URL like that, you should do an href, like this [ibm.com] .

If you need to know how to do an href, you can go here [w3.org] .

Cheers!

Re:Korean Air? (1)

Lemmy Caution (8378) | about 13 years ago | (#2374082)

Impressive, but I don't think it's desktop.

Universities (1)

Tux2000 (523259) | about 13 years ago | (#2373993)

Look at the Universities, where Linux "grew up". My "University of applied science" has several Linux pools, most of the prof's and assistants are using at least one Linux machine on their desktops, and most laboratories have Linux machines.

Why? Linux is cheaper than thousands of MS licenses.

Support? Ask a student!

Cost of Support? None for Profs (or good marks;-)), a beer for friends to install a recent linux.

Re:Universities (2, Interesting)

jjkivilu (194097) | about 13 years ago | (#2374084)

The CS department of University of Helsinki [helsinki.fi] has to my quick estimate about 500 Linux workstations. Naturally most of the servers run Linux too. Maybe someone from the staff could give more exact figures.

2 or 3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2373996)

If only we didn't have an IT department run by brainwashed NT morons.

The hope lies in the prolls (5, Informative)

nakedjames (442494) | about 13 years ago | (#2373997)

Late late news!

Burlington Coat Factory will install Linux on 1,150 computers in its 250 stores over the next 12 to 18 months.

"Burlington will run Red Hat Software Inc.'s version of Linux on 1,250 Dell OptiPlex® PCs for office management, to administer its Baby Registry and to handle back-office functions such as shipping and receiving. Dell will factory-install Red Hat Linux software through its DellPlus service on the OptiPlex GX1 computers, giving Burlington the ease and efficiency of PCs that arrive ready to use."

Sited from: Linux in Business [bynari.com]

The largest of all.... (1)

EastCoastLA (129478) | about 13 years ago | (#2374001)

Microsoft user support. Their last system just didn't cut it.

Dumb question? (5, Insightful)

Tin Weasil (246885) | about 13 years ago | (#2374002)

And what is the world's largest installed base of Windows computers? This isn't an easily answered question for any operating system.

Tell the manager that finding a definitive answer to his question is beyond the scope of your abilities. It's an unanswerable question because there aren't licensing issues with Linux, so tracking that number by per-seat licenses as is done with Windows and other non-free operating systems is not possible.

Then answer his question with some of the many sucessful linux conversions that HAVE taken place. Burlington coat factory, General Motors, City Governments, China.

Talk about the NSA developing security for Linux.

You aren't going to win a numbers game because the free availability of Linux means that it can be installed many times over without a distributor being able to track the numbers.

I can download my favorite Linux distro and install it to hundreds of PCs without anyone outside the company knowing those figures. With MS products, they can track the licensing down to every copy in use at any business. Therefore, MS will always win the numbers game.

Re:Dumb question? (2, Insightful)

mobiGeek (201274) | about 13 years ago | (#2374110)

Also try returning a follow-up question:
What is the world's highest/average licensing arrangement for a Windows install base?
Its an equally moot question, but it should send back the original message he/she was trying to give you.

Mexico? (5, Informative)

update() (217397) | about 13 years ago | (#2374009)

Re:Mexico? (4, Funny)

Lemmy Caution (8378) | about 13 years ago | (#2374109)

Speaking as someone who does IT projects throughout Latin America: the fact that it's taken over three years to get this project started in Mexico convinces me that it is true.

Home Depot (5, Informative)

worldwideweber (116531) | about 13 years ago | (#2374010)

Home Depot is using Red Hat Linux for a huge in-store system that its employees will use for tasks such as receiving, ordering, and inventory management. As many as 90,000 cash registers (etc) are running Linux there. Check out this article [informationweek.com] for details.

Reality (5, Informative)

sting3r (519844) | about 13 years ago | (#2374011)

I work for a small firm that offers UNIX (including Linux) based software to integrate the newer UNIX servers with old mainframe applications (like CICS and such). We have 110 employees, 95 of whom are "technical" (coders, sysadmins, etc.). A few months ago we tried to move the 15 non-technical employees (receptionists, accounting, etc.) to a Linux desktop, to save ourselves from spiraling Microsoft upgrade costs. We tried several combinations of KDE, Gnome, and traditional window managers; we also tried both Koffice and StarOffice for word processing and spreadsheets. (For text editing, vim was out of the question; emacs was bordering on insanity.) The result? They hated it, and productivity went down fast. The IS folks' workload tripled overnight as the Linux newbies got stuck trying to figure out why the KDE/Gnome desktops were so illogical. We couldn't find a non-IE browser that would work with our bank's site, so bookkeeping needed a Windows PC regardless (which they tended to fight over, since nobody liked Linux). People would hit the reset button when X died or crashed, and the resulting fsck would take half their filesystem with it. It was a nightmare.

Today our non-techies run Windows and our coders mostly run Linux, just as before. And it works (relatively) well. There are crashes and annoyances on the Windows side but at least it's usable. Linux simply isn't up to the task yet - and with funding for open source projects going down the toilet as LNUX, SGI, CALD, and RHAT slowly die off, things aren't going to change anytime soon.

-sting3r

Why so different (3, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2374145)

One question I would have is, why was the experience that you had so vastly different from the one described in the florida government? There they seemed to make good use of it and had few problems transitioning employees to the new system. I'm thinking that perhaps there is a strategy that does work well for deploying Linux in a business environment if the right approach is taken.

I'm a bit baffled about some of what you are describing. When X died, you say they'd hit reset and then fsck would take out half their filesystem? I see a few things here that don't make sense:

1) why was X dying? I've never had X die except in the rarest occasions or more routinely on systems I had really futzed with.

2) why would fsck cause damage to half their filesystem? while I've on occasion hit reset or powered down without a proper shutdown I have never had fsck cause any damage to my filesystem. Furthermore, if that was a concern, a journaling FS like XFS could have solved your problem.

3) why were newbies having to "figure out" the desktop? what kind of training did you give them?

4) you say you kept trying several combinations. wouldn't that tend to lead to increased confusion about and disdain for the new environment? seems like picking one thing after careful evaluation and sticking with it would solve some headdache.

5) If your bank requires IE, maybe you should consider a new bank? I mean that may seem drastic, but if they are uncapable of supporting the system your business wants to use, I'm sure another bank would be happy to hold on to your money.

When you look at the setup they used in Florida, they made a very strong point of making it simple for the users. They eliminated a lot of unneeded and potentially confusing funcationality, and they did an apparent good job of figuring out what they really needed to have to do the work they wanted to do.

Basically what it boils down to is that I get the sense that Linux is capable of being on the office desktop if it is implemented in a way that conforms to its benefits and drawbacks. You will have some initial training investment because it's different from what most people use, but there's no evidence I've seen to indicate that it's a fundamentally unusable OS in that space.

Not just Linux, but.. (1)

ltning (143862) | about 13 years ago | (#2374016)

I used to work for a company where they use all kinds of operating systems.. They did, and still do, web and database development and graphical design (computer graphics, posters, company 'look/image', etc.

Since the nature of their work is in essence multiplatform, there is a true multitude of platforms in operation within the company. There are Mac workstations, using MacOS or Linux/BSD, there are OS/2 workstations, Linux workstations, PC/BSD platforms, QNX and BeOS workstation.. And the occasional Windows box.

The company stresses that whoever works there should be allowed to use whatever operating system makes them do their job most effectively - truly seeing how subjective and individual that is.

On a side note, there are things indicating that the Norwegian government might want to rid themselves of their dependency on Windows... Whatever that means..

China (0, Redundant)

saarbruck (314638) | about 13 years ago | (#2374018)

Well... there's China

Isn't the Chinese government in the process of deploying Linux on a ton of PCs? Although from what I've seen and heard WRT the availability of pirated Micro$oft applications there, TCO is not really the issue...

Windows == $free, Linux == $free

Burlington Coat Factory (3, Informative)

NumberSyx (130129) | about 13 years ago | (#2374019)


Burlington Coat Factory runs Red Hat Linux on 1,250 Dell OptiPlex systems. If you do a search on Dells website or Google, you will find it.

IBM (1, Offtopic)

GrEp (89884) | about 13 years ago | (#2374020)

If it is good enough for "Big Blue" it is good enough for you.

Just show your manager IBM's Linux sites. For most I doubt that they will need more convincing that Linux is ready for prime time in the desktop market.

Re:IBM (5, Informative)

GrEp (89884) | about 13 years ago | (#2374132)

Thanks for the offtopic mod ;)

Here is a link to some Case Studies [ibm.com] that IBM has done on using Linux that I should have posted above.

City of Largo et al (1)

InodoroPereyra (514794) | about 13 years ago | (#2374022)

There is this example of City of Largo [kde.org] .
I would also look for "Succes stories" in enterprise Linux-Desktop related sites, such as http://enterprise.kde.org/ [kde.org]


Cheers
-- Don Inodoro

linux is growing (1)

datamyte (182888) | about 13 years ago | (#2374024)

We run 2 Linux Servers as Oracle DB's, 1 Linux Tomcat webserver and there are at least 4 other developers that have a Linux machine for development. Not bad for a small consulting shop of about 15 people.

VA Linux (2)

FortKnox (169099) | about 13 years ago | (#2374033)

What about VA Linux? How many does the company (with sourceforge, thinkgeek, slashdot, etc...) use?

I, actually, heard a rumor that the "higher-ups" don't use Linux. Is this true?

Looked at Sun Rays? (1)

christophersaul (127003) | about 13 years ago | (#2374049)

I presume you're interested in a GPL'd solution, but have you looked at Sun Rays from Sun? Sun have deployed them over pretty much all of their sites - I believe they have 40,000 seats now. Everyone, from admins to engineers, happily using a Unix desktop.

My school (1)

christurkel (520220) | about 13 years ago | (#2374052)

Has 50 desktops with Caldera Linux, 15 with Solaris 8 and 25 Macs that dual boot Mac OS X/Yellow Dog Linux 2.0. At home I have a new Yellow Dog Linux box and an IBM ThinkPad running Mandrake 8.1. Oh yes I own 10 Macs :)

Pre School (1)

mmca (180858) | about 13 years ago | (#2374057)

I have 24 computer stations for the kids to use at school 20 of 24 are GNU based (FreeBSD + Gnome) The remaing 4 are Win2k machines acting as LAN fileservers and print servers.

It was setup this way so I could get the most out of the old computers that are donated to the school by using them as terminals and having one multi proc machine as a term server.

Good place to start is http://www.k12ltsp.org/ for linux k-12 stuff

-M

Just a few here (1)

rongage (237813) | about 13 years ago | (#2374058)

Let's see - at my day job, one development machine (Slackware 8) and at least 2 more on the way (kicking MS Proxy Server out the door permanently).

At my home-office, my main work machine, my firewall, my laptop computer, and a spare "development" machine - all running Slackware 8.

At my co-lo ISP, one machine running Slackware 7.1 - makes a total of 6 with 2 more on the way.

A lot here (2, Informative)

skhazra (37185) | about 13 years ago | (#2374074)

I work at the Centre for Wireless Communications at National University of Singapore and I guess out of 250 people or so here almost every one has at least one linux box, some have more and I have the maximum, which is 15!!

So things are good here I guess. Its one place where the tech support knows how to setup printer in linux ;)

How about the UK police force. (5, Interesting)

Organism (457220) | about 13 years ago | (#2374080)

They apparantly saved over £250,000 (~$350k) by switching to Linux and Star Office. This was during the uproar about MS licensing.

--ALex
My Poor Sig.

Two sites and some memories (1)

Usquebaugh (230216) | about 13 years ago | (#2374090)

http://www.stti-usa.com/LinuxSuccess.htm
http://www.m-tech.ab.ca/linux-biz/

Burlington Coat Factory
Bay Area Rapid Transit, BART

Some numbers (2, Interesting)

pruneau (208454) | about 13 years ago | (#2374094)

Telecom business - international company with 100.000 people (you can see the name of the company in the adds...)
We have a research site, 1700 people working here, around 4000 machines.
Amongst them, we have 300 "repertoried" linux cpus, with around 80 desktop and some servers. But apparently this will soon ramp up.
my .2 cents.

Memorial University of Newfoundland (2, Interesting)

Christopher Whitt (74084) | about 13 years ago | (#2374098)

My university has at least 5 major public access PC labs configured with to dualboot linux and Win98. I'd say roughly 180 desktops on linux, not counting the dozens of CS and engineering faculty PCs and servers running linux.

These labs are managed by the CS department and user accounts are actually shell accounts on the CS linux/unix server cluster, so you can log in at any station and your desktop travels with you. Each machine has a linux login screen with an option to reboot into Win98 after logging in.

The engineering department has a similar system using MS networking (with no dual boot linux desktop option), but I'm pretty sure the ENGRNT domain controller is actually a Samba box.

Christopher

China? (1)

GoatPigSheep (525460) | about 13 years ago | (#2374100)

Seeing as china declared linux to be their official OS.. I would assume there is or will be a large deployment there

Largest Desktop?? (1)

Hooya (518216) | about 13 years ago | (#2374101)

i have linux on a computer with a 20incher. i'm not sure that's the largest but that sure is pretty big. wait till i connect that to the company projector...

seriously, i have linux on 7 machines. one laptop (desktop use full time). one file-print server. 2 web-servers. and the rest are used by developers thru VNC software on their windows machines. do those count?

one... (1)

Frederic54 (3788) | about 13 years ago | (#2374104)

a debian machine on my desk, everything is windows in the company, except firewall/web server etc which are FreeBSD
On my desktop I also have a win machine, a BeOS one, a debian one, a SCO one, a QNX4 one, a QNX6 one. I am a OS whore :)

in your dreams... (-1, Flamebait)

gnurd (455798) | about 13 years ago | (#2374105)

...where it will stay. sorry. better luck next OS.

How Many Linux desktops + Serves... (2, Interesting)

cat5 (166434) | about 13 years ago | (#2374116)

I have here Linux deployed on 45-50 desktops (r&d) and about the same in Win2K/NT4 desktops (Sales, Marketinng, Management, etc)

BUT, All my servers here, including R&D test beds.. all run linux.. about 300 Machines.

Cheers.

Sorry but this has to be done (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2374120)

We have it.

All of your installed base are belong to us!!

Katz

University of Helsinki - Dpt. of Computer Science (2, Interesting)

chefren (17219) | about 13 years ago | (#2374122)

The Department of Computer Science [helsinki.fi] in the University of Helsinki has all its desktop machines running linux. Some dual boot to W2K. The machine listing is here: [helsinki.fi]
Status of machines


No, I did not count them.

Google (1, Offtopic)

gmuslera (3436) | about 13 years ago | (#2374123)

According to this [google.com] , it have the biggest commercial linux cluster in thw world (like 10.000 servers).

0.00000 (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2374125)

linux sux, man

Ford Of Europe (1)

alman (86957) | about 13 years ago | (#2374136)

I seem to remember that Ford's Europe division converted (or will convert) to Linux

Not done yet (0, Offtopic)

notsboyd (145938) | about 13 years ago | (#2374138)

The largest install will be ENIAC, once Linux/ENIAC is ported and ready...

Odd Question... (3, Insightful)

BMazurek (137285) | about 13 years ago | (#2374141)

Doesn't this seem like an odd premise for the question? Training people on the Linux desktop. What does that mean exactly? You're trying to make Linux a viable alternative to Windows. A reasonable, commendable to some, desire.

Except, what does Linux training mean within that context? You're likely not teaching people about bourne shell. Or how to use tar, mv, etc. Oh, you're going to teach them about the GUIs. Okay, KDE, Gnome? Application software like Star Office?

But none of those are Linux-specific, either. They could apply equally well to a host of other UN*X-like OSs....

I think at the "desktop" level it's not Windows versus Linux. That's the problem with OSs where you can customize and change the desktop to such an extent that it is totally foreign to someone who is supposedly trained under the "Linux desktop".

Dreamworks (3, Interesting)

CaptainZapp (182233) | about 13 years ago | (#2374153)

Dreamworks switched their rendering farms to Linux.

They are in the process of switching their desktops from SGI to Linux right now. Timescale: A few month (and a lot of work beforehand).

Source: The Dreamworks CTO at a presentation at San Franciscos LinuxWorld

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