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Mangalyaan Gets Ready To Enter Mars Orbit

timothy posted about a month ago | from the space-is-a-big-place dept.

Mars 67

William Robinson (875390) writes India's Mars Orbiter Mission, known as Mangalyaan is now at a distance of just nine million kilometres from the red planet, and is scheduled to enter the orbit of Mars at 7.30 am on September 24. Mangalyaan was launched on 5th November 2013 by ISRO, presently busy planning to reduce the speed of the spacecraft through the process of firing the LAM engine and bring it to 1.6 km/sec, before it is captured by the planet's gravity. Eventually, the mission's official updates page should catch up.

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Congratulations, India ! (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47742173)

India appears to be the ONE country that has the "ooomph" in terms of the CAN DO spirit

Not only their space launch costs much less than the one from NASA, it costs less than the one from ESA (Europe), from Japan, from Russia and from China !

We should learn from India on how to keep cost down

Again, congratulations are in order for India !!

Re:Congratulations, India ! (1, Funny)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | about a month ago | (#47742201)

Correct me if I'm wrong but... would you happen to be rooting for India by any chance?

Re: Congratulations, India ! (3, Funny)

kyjellyfish (1703658) | about a month ago | (#47750747)

All right!!! Let's add space exploration to the list of things we can outsource to India.

Why I Hate Indians (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47742241)

My apartment complex is full of Indians. It’s a recent phenomenon too but I don’t mind that. In fact they are pretty quiet and don’t commit a lot of crimes. They’re kids are cute and well-behaved with two-parent households, something now foreign to most Americans. I also daily interact with Indians at my job but mostly over the phone and via email. They’re the developers meaning databases, web and server applications. I’m not sure why they have been typecast into that role. They don’t seem any more suited to it than the people who did it before the advent of the H1B Visa that has them flooding into the country. In fact they do a worse job because their English is generally terrible with a very heavy accent that frustrates Americans beyond belief. I’ve noticed that most IT recruiters are now Indian as well. I just hang out on them and put their emails on a black list. Most of them have no clue what they’re doing. It may sound wrong but I only want white, Asian or Latino IT recruiters finding jobs for me. Blacks and Indians, probably because of white racism, just don’t have the connections needed or industry experience to make things happen smoothly or even at all.

Indians also tend to speak in the imperative form which irks Americans to no end since that is the form used for giving people commands and we don’t take too kindly to that. Regardless, I do have other issues with Indians and it’s not related to their seeking a better life in another country, which is what bothers whites the most as if foreigners are just supposed to turn down a better way of life to keep Americans happy, insulated and isolated while frustrating the New World Order’s plan for one world government. Whites never blame other whites for their problems. They prefer to vent on Indians and Mexicans rather than taking up arms against the Jewish hijacking of their government which is an attempt to dilute the gene pool of every race on the planet and thereby make us all easier to control and cull at their whim.

Indians and whites have a unique historical relationship. Whites claim Indo-European heritage but they generally express that as Aryan. The problem with that is Aryan doesn’t mean white. It is only used by white supremacists when they are referring to oneness as a people. The real definition refers only to the shared language of the Indo-European and Indo-Iranian people. I’m starting to think that whites really have nothing to claim of their own other than hatred and fear of everything that is not white. Well.not starting perhaps but continuing.

When you take a look at Indians you will see that besides their skin and eye color they look very much like whites. They have dark straight hair. They have similar body builds and facial features. Their noses and lips are relatively thin most of the time. They tend to be hairy. They are probably directly related to whites genetically if you go far enough back in time. Maybe that’s why Indians kiss so much white ass when they come America. I thought Uncle Toms like Clarence Thomas and Michael Steele were bad but Indians take white ass-kissing to a whole..nubba.lebba.

What is the converse of an Anglophile? It is hatred of everything black. Most Indians hate blacks but they will not admit it because they are just happy to be in the country. The caste system in India still exists and it is one of the worst apartheid-like systems of oppression in the world. In fact it is so bad that many Hindus choose to convert to Buddhism just rather than live under it. The bottom class, or dalit, have virtually no rights or upward mobility. They are referred to as the untouchables (no not the gangsters) permanently confined to the most menial jobs for their entire lives, including all future generations as well. Anyone from the dalit class attempting to marry up or improve their lot in life is met with extreme resistance up to and including death. Indians bring that attitude to America and apply it to blacks who have been at the bottom since arriving in America as slaves.

Like I said I don’t mind other people’s customs as long as they don’t interfere with mine but the caste system mentality they bring to America interferes with my beliefs. I don’t care if Indians wear traditional garb and eat traditional food but they take it several steps further. Many of them don’t even try to learn English and it is next to impossible to understand them without them repeating what they said several times or rephrasing it altogether. You get better at it with time but the point is they should be trying to get better at speaking it, not Americans getting better at understanding it. If I went to their country I would learn and speak their language as best I could. They are simply not doing that here in America. Most of the time they speak their native Hindi dialect and only speak English when forced to in meetings or group functions where at least one member is not Indian or a Hindi speaker. Needless to say that is not conducive to learning English when you get very little practice because you know they don’t speak English at home. I know for a fact because I can hear them in my apartment building every day. Not one word of English..ever.

I read an article a few weeks ago about how some Indians are complaining about Americans using yoga simply for the physical benefits because to them those are usually combined with a spiritual and religious aspect. Well pardon me if I didn’t know that Hindus owned downward dog. Give me a break. It’s one thing to introduce your culture to another country. It’s quite another to tell us we’re doing it wrong. I don’t hear any Latinos complaining that Tex Mex is not authentic Mexican food. You have to make compromises when you are new to a country if you want to blend in with other cultures. That doesn’t mean giving up any authentic traditions but it does mean allowing for different views. I do yoga myself. It’s good for my back and stress in general but I would never practice Hinduism. In fact I would never subject myself to any man-made religion because they were all created for control, not spirituality or closeness to God. Besides Hinduism has way too many Gods for me to remember at my age. It’s almost as bad as Judaism’s 613 mitzvoh but nothing could be as bad as Judaism.

I’m not going to go into ad hominem attacks on Indians but we all know there is a very small percentage of them that do not bathe regularly. Maybe it’s their clothes more than them. Maybe it’s all the spices they use in their food. I don’t know but I do know BO when I smell it. Of course Americans tend to assume that it’s the entire group of them that smells rather than one of them which is usually the case. I understand that much of the water in India is not potable so they are not used to having an abundance like we do in America but this is something they need to adapt to as part of our culture. Americans do not like smelly people especially in a business setting. The vast majority of Indians do not behave in this manner but there is that 1% out there that literally could fell an elephant with their pure funk. They are so funky it makes George Clinton sound like Lawrence Welk. Take a damn bath for Pete’s sake. I know there’s fluoride in the water but that’s the least of my concerns when it comes to funk.

Another thing I’ve noticed is that Indians are not very friendly people from what I can tell. Why the fuck do so many of the men always stare at you as well? Maybe it’s just me. They seem very introverted in general and prefer to remain isolated in groups with other Indians. That is not abnormal per se since all races behave in the same manner to a degree but with Indians it is grossly exaggerated. Maybe it’s just the fact that most of them don’t like blacks. Maybe they are just shy or intimidated from being in another country. Whatever the case may be if I was in another country I would be trying to each out to the people who have lived there to make connections. I have never seen Indians personally make any such gesture but maybe they do with whites who they apparently worship. They just want to do their job, mostly in their native Hindi language, for a low-ball wage that forces Americans out of work and then go home to an isolated Indian community to continue making babies.

All I see around when I walk around outside is Indian women who stay at home and take care of the kids all day. That is fine. America used to be like that before feminism ruined everything. I actually applaud it although I am sick and tired of seeing preggos walking around everywhere. I don’t see the glow in pregnant women. All I see is a bloated female with a new victim in her belly. I know I know.I should relocate (working on it) but I’m not sure why Indians have so many kids. Maybe it’s the same reason Latinos do which they say is because they value family or at least large families. Americans also used to do that but feminism destroyed that too, although some credit must be given to the rampant materialism and objectification of everything. Now whenever there is a murder in America the first people the police want to talk to is the family and usually they find the killer right there.

It’s just weird seeing people who have not been infected by American mental illness yet. It makes me a little jealous, not that things were ever perfect in this country because they were far from it but at least things were less contrived and robotic. Now we’re sick and we have to pretend we’re not using political correctness or risk losing our livelihoods. What a crock. We’re all just human capital to corporations now and I can see the transformation already happening to second and third generation Latinos and Asians. They are becoming just as sick or more as white and black Americans already are and in the process of losing all of their humanity, affinity for family and simple living. In fact you can already see it affecting Indian men who are chasing after underage white girls. Chris Hansen from “To Catch a Predator” can probably speak Hindi at this point. America is a disease and it is extremely contagious.

Apologies to the Stones (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47742317)

I see a dot-head and I want to send him back
No dot-heads any more I want them to go back

Re:Apologies to the Stones (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47744807)

They would go back just like the europeans, other asians, south americans, arabians, and every body else who have colonized this country.

Re:Why I Hate Indians (1)

CrzyP (830102) | about a month ago | (#47742363)

Well, that novel was extremely relevant to the OP. Thanks for psycho/analyzing the Indian people because we definitely needed it as a response to a scientific post.

Re:Why I Hate Indian - Recruiters (-1, Offtopic)

raind (174356) | about a month ago | (#47743053)

Because 80% of recruiters contacting me are Indian, this is true for me - when I asked one what made him come here to be a pimp and didn't get an answer, anyone?

Re:Why I Hate Indians (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47742435)

"They’re kids are cute" ...and could correct your grammar, idiot.

Re:Why I Hate Indians (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47742709)

My apartment complex is full of Indians. It’s a recent phenomenon too but I don’t mind that. In fact they are pretty quiet and don’t commit a lot of crimes. They’re kids are cute and well-behaved with two-parent households, something now foreign to most Americans. I also daily interact with Indians at my job but mostly over the phone and via email. They’re the developers meaning databases, web and server applications. I’m not sure why they have been typecast into that role. They don’t seem any more suited to it than the people who did it before the advent of the H1B Visa that has them flooding into the country. In fact they do a worse job because their English is generally terrible with a very heavy accent that frustrates Americans beyond belief. I’ve noticed that most IT recruiters are now Indian as well. I just hang out on them and put their emails on a black list. Most of them have no clue what they’re doing. It may sound wrong but I only want white, Asian or Latino IT recruiters finding jobs for me. Blacks and Indians, probably because of white racism, just don’t have the connections needed or industry experience to make things happen smoothly or even at all.

Indians also tend to speak in the imperative form which irks Americans to no end since that is the form used for giving people commands and we don’t take too kindly to that. Regardless, I do have other issues with Indians and it’s not related to their seeking a better life in another country, which is what bothers whites the most as if foreigners are just supposed to turn down a better way of life to keep Americans happy, insulated and isolated while frustrating the New World Order’s plan for one world government. Whites never blame other whites for their problems. They prefer to vent on Indians and Mexicans rather than taking up arms against the Jewish hijacking of their government which is an attempt to dilute the gene pool of every race on the planet and thereby make us all easier to control and cull at their whim.

Indians and whites have a unique historical relationship. Whites claim Indo-European heritage but they generally express that as Aryan. The problem with that is Aryan doesn’t mean white. It is only used by white supremacists when they are referring to oneness as a people. The real definition refers only to the shared language of the Indo-European and Indo-Iranian people. I’m starting to think that whites really have nothing to claim of their own other than hatred and fear of everything that is not white. Well.not starting perhaps but continuing.

When you take a look at Indians you will see that besides their skin and eye color they look very much like whites. They have dark straight hair. They have similar body builds and facial features. Their noses and lips are relatively thin most of the time. They tend to be hairy. They are probably directly related to whites genetically if you go far enough back in time. Maybe that’s why Indians kiss so much white ass when they come America. I thought Uncle Toms like Clarence Thomas and Michael Steele were bad but Indians take white ass-kissing to a whole..nubba.lebba.

What is the converse of an Anglophile? It is hatred of everything black. Most Indians hate blacks but they will not admit it because they are just happy to be in the country. The caste system in India still exists and it is one of the worst apartheid-like systems of oppression in the world. In fact it is so bad that many Hindus choose to convert to Buddhism just rather than live under it. The bottom class, or dalit, have virtually no rights or upward mobility. They are referred to as the untouchables (no not the gangsters) permanently confined to the most menial jobs for their entire lives, including all future generations as well. Anyone from the dalit class attempting to marry up or improve their lot in life is met with extreme resistance up to and including death. Indians bring that attitude to America and apply it to blacks who have been at the bottom since arriving in America as slaves.

Like I said I don’t mind other people’s customs as long as they don’t interfere with mine but the caste system mentality they bring to America interferes with my beliefs. I don’t care if Indians wear traditional garb and eat traditional food but they take it several steps further. Many of them don’t even try to learn English and it is next to impossible to understand them without them repeating what they said several times or rephrasing it altogether. You get better at it with time but the point is they should be trying to get better at speaking it, not Americans getting better at understanding it. If I went to their country I would learn and speak their language as best I could. They are simply not doing that here in America. Most of the time they speak their native Hindi dialect and only speak English when forced to in meetings or group functions where at least one member is not Indian or a Hindi speaker. Needless to say that is not conducive to learning English when you get very little practice because you know they don’t speak English at home. I know for a fact because I can hear them in my apartment building every day. Not one word of English..ever.

I read an article a few weeks ago about how some Indians are complaining about Americans using yoga simply for the physical benefits because to them those are usually combined with a spiritual and religious aspect. Well pardon me if I didn’t know that Hindus owned downward dog. Give me a break. It’s one thing to introduce your culture to another country. It’s quite another to tell us we’re doing it wrong. I don’t hear any Latinos complaining that Tex Mex is not authentic Mexican food. You have to make compromises when you are new to a country if you want to blend in with other cultures. That doesn’t mean giving up any authentic traditions but it does mean allowing for different views. I do yoga myself. It’s good for my back and stress in general but I would never practice Hinduism. In fact I would never subject myself to any man-made religion because they were all created for control, not spirituality or closeness to God. Besides Hinduism has way too many Gods for me to remember at my age. It’s almost as bad as Judaism’s 613 mitzvoh but nothing could be as bad as Judaism.

I’m not going to go into ad hominem attacks on Indians but we all know there is a very small percentage of them that do not bathe regularly. Maybe it’s their clothes more than them. Maybe it’s all the spices they use in their food. I don’t know but I do know BO when I smell it. Of course Americans tend to assume that it’s the entire group of them that smells rather than one of them which is usually the case. I understand that much of the water in India is not potable so they are not used to having an abundance like we do in America but this is something they need to adapt to as part of our culture. Americans do not like smelly people especially in a business setting. The vast majority of Indians do not behave in this manner but there is that 1% out there that literally could fell an elephant with their pure funk. They are so funky it makes George Clinton sound like Lawrence Welk. Take a damn bath for Pete’s sake. I know there’s fluoride in the water but that’s the least of my concerns when it comes to funk.

Another thing I’ve noticed is that Indians are not very friendly people from what I can tell. Why the fuck do so many of the men always stare at you as well? Maybe it’s just me. They seem very introverted in general and prefer to remain isolated in groups with other Indians. That is not abnormal per se since all races behave in the same manner to a degree but with Indians it is grossly exaggerated. Maybe it’s just the fact that most of them don’t like blacks. Maybe they are just shy or intimidated from being in another country. Whatever the case may be if I was in another country I would be trying to each out to the people who have lived there to make connections. I have never seen Indians personally make any such gesture but maybe they do with whites who they apparently worship. They just want to do their job, mostly in their native Hindi language, for a low-ball wage that forces Americans out of work and then go home to an isolated Indian community to continue making babies.

All I see around when I walk around outside is Indian women who stay at home and take care of the kids all day. That is fine. America used to be like that before feminism ruined everything. I actually applaud it although I am sick and tired of seeing preggos walking around everywhere. I don’t see the glow in pregnant women. All I see is a bloated female with a new victim in her belly. I know I know.I should relocate (working on it) but I’m not sure why Indians have so many kids. Maybe it’s the same reason Latinos do which they say is because they value family or at least large families. Americans also used to do that but feminism destroyed that too, although some credit must be given to the rampant materialism and objectification of everything. Now whenever there is a murder in America the first people the police want to talk to is the family and usually they find the killer right there.

It’s just weird seeing people who have not been infected by American mental illness yet. It makes me a little jealous, not that things were ever perfect in this country because they were far from it but at least things were less contrived and robotic. Now we’re sick and we have to pretend we’re not using political correctness or risk losing our livelihoods. What a crock. We’re all just human capital to corporations now and I can see the transformation already happening to second and third generation Latinos and Asians. They are becoming just as sick or more as white and black Americans already are and in the process of losing all of their humanity, affinity for family and simple living. In fact you can already see it affecting Indian men who are chasing after underage white girls. Chris Hansen from “To Catch a Predator” can probably speak Hindi at this point. America is a disease and it is extremely contagious.

As an Indian, I would like to thank you for sharing your views about a billion of us. It made a lot of sense especially since your comments were very relevant to the article.

Re:Why I Hate Indians (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47744871)

It doesn't matter whether it's relevant to the article, the important thing is that he raised some very good and vital points that need addressing by Indians coming fresh off the boat.

Man, why can't you Indians sort out your own country, instead of multiplying in the west and creating filthy places - I guess that's how you guys feel "at home".

Re:Why I Hate Indians (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47749857)

Good and vital points? All I see here is stereotype layered with a generous spread of more stereotype.

Speaking of filthy places, Americans should not talk of creating filthy places. You guys are polluting and destroying the rest of the world to keep your hyper-consumption led lifestyle going. You are creating desolation in countries you can't find on the world map and you call others filthy? And believe me,if you find Indians filthy, a large number of Indians find your habits equally filthy, so let us not get there. And to us, you guys have an insufferable twangy accent..

And about sorting out our respective countries, if India is messed up in one way, USA is messed up in other ways. You just like your flavour of messedup-ness better. And we are sorting out our own country, unlike you, who are trying to sort out multiple countries without sorting out your own.

And what is this about multiplying in the West? You guys are desperate to call us or outsource work to us, which you can't or won't do. If the roles were reversed, you would have called it 'market forces' or come up with some equally ridiculous justification. Why these double standards?

And speaking of fresh off the boat, if you are American, your family would have also come fresh off the boat someday. So, why are you giving grief to others who are doing today what your family did a few generations ago?

Re: Why I Hate Indians (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47774903)

It doesn't matter? Why pick this article to rant about Indians and not talk about the achievement. Looks like u and some others here just cannot handle the fact that India is advancing in technology. Haters will be haters.

Why I Hate Indians (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47744767)

I for one wanted to say Thank You for your rant, I loved it!

Accurate indeed.

You probably may not like me either, I'm Muslim but born and raised in UK, but I know _exactly_ what you mean about Indians, because I too have noticed the same thing. And sadly, they're taking over the entire IT department, you could say, multiplying out of control.
I was speaking to my manager about this (he's white), and he was also frustrated why we can only seem to find Indians (who just came fresh off the boat)... where did all the native born people go?!!

What further really annoys me is that instead of finding an Indian mrs in their new Western country, they always insist on going back to India for marriage, and then bringing yet another smelly person back to the west, sigh. :(

Immigration is something that's really bothering us in UK too, particularly with the out-of-control Indians, Paki's, Polish, and Romainian!

Since the immigration influx, I've moved to a quieter area out of the big cities, so more greenery; but as I was driving down in the city and past different places, I noticed that where-ever you have many different cultures mixed together, it creates a dirty town and a broken/poor society. The houses, shops, streets all seems to look run-down, like ghetto's I guess, because immigrants would accept to live in any filthy hole.

Man, I am just so sick of seeing Indians every where.

Why I Hate Indians (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47745999)

I for one wanted to say Thank You for your rant, I loved it!

Accurate indeed.

You probably may not like me either, I'm Muslim but born and raised in UK, but I know _exactly_ what you mean about Indians, because I too have noticed the same thing. And sadly, they're taking over the entire IT department, you could say, multiplying out of control.
I was speaking to my manager about this (he's white), and he was also frustrated why we can only seem to find Indians (who just came fresh off the boat)... where did all the native born people go?!!

What further really annoys me is that instead of finding an Indian mrs in their new Western country, they always insist on going back to India for marriage, and then bringing yet another smelly person back to the west, sigh. :(

Immigration is something that's really bothering us in UK too, particularly with the out-of-control Indians, Paki's, Polish, and Romainian!

Since the immigration influx, I've moved to a quieter area out of the big cities, so more greenery; but as I was driving down in the city and past different places, I noticed that where-ever you have many different cultures mixed together, it creates a dirty town and a broken/poor society. The houses, shops, streets all seems to look run-down, like ghetto's I guess, because immigrants would accept to live in any filthy hole.

Man, I am just so sick of seeing Indians every where.

How did you land in America? You yourself is an immigrant. Read history before you rant!

Why I Hate Indians (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47745035)

My apartment complex is full of Indians. ItÃ(TM)s a recent phenomenon too but I donÃ(TM)t mind that. In fact they are pretty quiet and donÃ(TM)t commit a lot of crimes. TheyÃ(TM)re kids are cute and well-behaved with two-parent households, something now foreign to most Americans. I also daily interact with Indians at my job but mostly over the phone and via email. TheyÃ(TM)re the developers meaning databases, web and server applications. IÃ(TM)m not sure why they have been typecast into that role. They donÃ(TM)t seem any more suited to it than the people who did it before the advent of the H1B Visa that has them flooding into the country. In fact they do a worse job because their English is generally terrible with a very heavy accent that frustrates Americans beyond belief. IÃ(TM)ve noticed that most IT recruiters are now Indian as well. I just hang out on them and put their emails on a black list. Most of them have no clue what theyÃ(TM)re doing. It may sound wrong but I only want white, Asian or Latino IT recruiters finding jobs for me. Blacks and Indians, probably because of white racism, just donÃ(TM)t have the connections needed or industry experience to make things happen smoothly or even at all.

Indians also tend to speak in the imperative form which irks Americans to no end since that is the form used for giving people commands and we donÃ(TM)t take too kindly to that. Regardless, I do have other issues with Indians and itÃ(TM)s not related to their seeking a better life in another country, which is what bothers whites the most as if foreigners are just supposed to turn down a better way of life to keep Americans happy, insulated and isolated while frustrating the New World OrderÃ(TM)s plan for one world government. Whites never blame other whites for their problems. They prefer to vent on Indians and Mexicans rather than taking up arms against the Jewish hijacking of their government which is an attempt to dilute the gene pool of every race on the planet and thereby make us all easier to control and cull at their whim.

Indians and whites have a unique historical relationship. Whites claim Indo-European heritage but they generally express that as Aryan. The problem with that is Aryan doesnÃ(TM)t mean white. It is only used by white supremacists when they are referring to oneness as a people. The real definition refers only to the shared language of the Indo-European and Indo-Iranian people. IÃ(TM)m starting to think that whites really have nothing to claim of their own other than hatred and fear of everything that is not white. Well.not starting perhaps but continuing.

When you take a look at Indians you will see that besides their skin and eye color they look very much like whites. They have dark straight hair. They have similar body builds and facial features. Their noses and lips are relatively thin most of the time. They tend to be hairy. They are probably directly related to whites genetically if you go far enough back in time. Maybe thatÃ(TM)s why Indians kiss so much white ass when they come America. I thought Uncle Toms like Clarence Thomas and Michael Steele were bad but Indians take white ass-kissing to a whole..nubba.lebba.

What is the converse of an Anglophile? It is hatred of everything black. Most Indians hate blacks but they will not admit it because they are just happy to be in the country. The caste system in India still exists and it is one of the worst apartheid-like systems of oppression in the world. In fact it is so bad that many Hindus choose to convert to Buddhism just rather than live under it. The bottom class, or dalit, have virtually no rights or upward mobility. They are referred to as the untouchables (no not the gangsters) permanently confined to the most menial jobs for their entire lives, including all future generations as well. Anyone from the dalit class attempting to marry up or improve their lot in life is met with extreme resistance up to and including death. Indians bring that attitude to America and apply it to blacks who have been at the bottom since arriving in America as slaves.

Like I said I donÃ(TM)t mind other peopleÃ(TM)s customs as long as they donÃ(TM)t interfere with mine but the caste system mentality they bring to America interferes with my beliefs. I donÃ(TM)t care if Indians wear traditional garb and eat traditional food but they take it several steps further. Many of them donÃ(TM)t even try to learn English and it is next to impossible to understand them without them repeating what they said several times or rephrasing it altogether. You get better at it with time but the point is they should be trying to get better at speaking it, not Americans getting better at understanding it. If I went to their country I would learn and speak their language as best I could. They are simply not doing that here in America. Most of the time they speak their native Hindi dialect and only speak English when forced to in meetings or group functions where at least one member is not Indian or a Hindi speaker. Needless to say that is not conducive to learning English when you get very little practice because you know they donÃ(TM)t speak English at home. I know for a fact because I can hear them in my apartment building every day. Not one word of English..ever.

I read an article a few weeks ago about how some Indians are complaining about Americans using yoga simply for the physical benefits because to them those are usually combined with a spiritual and religious aspect. Well pardon me if I didnÃ(TM)t know that Hindus owned downward dog. Give me a break. ItÃ(TM)s one thing to introduce your culture to another country. ItÃ(TM)s quite another to tell us weÃ(TM)re doing it wrong. I donÃ(TM)t hear any Latinos complaining that Tex Mex is not authentic Mexican food. You have to make compromises when you are new to a country if you want to blend in with other cultures. That doesnÃ(TM)t mean giving up any authentic traditions but it does mean allowing for different views. I do yoga myself. ItÃ(TM)s good for my back and stress in general but I would never practice Hinduism. In fact I would never subject myself to any man-made religion because they were all created for control, not spirituality or closeness to God. Besides Hinduism has way too many Gods for me to remember at my age. ItÃ(TM)s almost as bad as JudaismÃ(TM)s 613 mitzvoh but nothing could be as bad as Judaism.

IÃ(TM)m not going to go into ad hominem attacks on Indians but we all know there is a very small percentage of them that do not bathe regularly. Maybe itÃ(TM)s their clothes more than them. Maybe itÃ(TM)s all the spices they use in their food. I donÃ(TM)t know but I do know BO when I smell it. Of course Americans tend to assume that itÃ(TM)s the entire group of them that smells rather than one of them which is usually the case. I understand that much of the water in India is not potable so they are not used to having an abundance like we do in America but this is something they need to adapt to as part of our culture. Americans do not like smelly people especially in a business setting. The vast majority of Indians do not behave in this manner but there is that 1% out there that literally could fell an elephant with their pure funk. They are so funky it makes George Clinton sound like Lawrence Welk. Take a damn bath for PeteÃ(TM)s sake. I know thereÃ(TM)s fluoride in the water but thatÃ(TM)s the least of my concerns when it comes to funk.

Another thing IÃ(TM)ve noticed is that Indians are not very friendly people from what I can tell. Why the fuck do so many of the men always stare at you as well? Maybe itÃ(TM)s just me. They seem very introverted in general and prefer to remain isolated in groups with other Indians. That is not abnormal per se since all races behave in the same manner to a degree but with Indians it is grossly exaggerated. Maybe itÃ(TM)s just the fact that most of them donÃ(TM)t like blacks. Maybe they are just shy or intimidated from being in another country. Whatever the case may be if I was in another country I would be trying to each out to the people who have lived there to make connections. I have never seen Indians personally make any such gesture but maybe they do with whites who they apparently worship. They just want to do their job, mostly in their native Hindi language, for a low-ball wage that forces Americans out of work and then go home to an isolated Indian community to continue making babies.

All I see around when I walk around outside is Indian women who stay at home and take care of the kids all day. That is fine. America used to be like that before feminism ruined everything. I actually applaud it although I am sick and tired of seeing preggos walking around everywhere. I donÃ(TM)t see the glow in pregnant women. All I see is a bloated female with a new victim in her belly. I know I know.I should relocate (working on it) but IÃ(TM)m not sure why Indians have so many kids. Maybe itÃ(TM)s the same reason Latinos do which they say is because they value family or at least large families. Americans also used to do that but feminism destroyed that too, although some credit must be given to the rampant materialism and objectification of everything. Now whenever there is a murder in America the first people the police want to talk to is the family and usually they find the killer right there.

ItÃ(TM)s just weird seeing people who have not been infected by American mental illness yet. It makes me a little jealous, not that things were ever perfect in this country because they were far from it but at least things were less contrived and robotic. Now weÃ(TM)re sick and we have to pretend weÃ(TM)re not using political correctness or risk losing our livelihoods. What a crock. WeÃ(TM)re all just human capital to corporations now and I can see the transformation already happening to second and third generation Latinos and Asians. They are becoming just as sick or more as white and black Americans already are and in the process of losing all of their humanity, affinity for family and simple living. In fact you can already see it affecting Indian men who are chasing after underage white girls. Chris Hansen from ÃoeTo Catch a Predatorà can probably speak Hindi at this point. America is a disease and it is extremely contagious.

Dont hold yourself back!! Let us know how you really feel about Indians

Re: Why I Hate Indians (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47762163)

Are you a black lady?

Re: Why I Hate Indians (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47771773)

"I am sick and tired of seeing preggos walking around everywhere. I donÃf(TM)t see the glow in pregnant women. All I see is a bloated female with a new victim in her belly. I know I know.I should relocate (working on it)"

So much hate. I think you should work on killing yourself.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47742247)

I will congratulation India when they can stop shitting on the streets.
Oh snap I just fucking DESTROYED you.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (1)

CrzyP (830102) | about a month ago | (#47742337)

You're an idiot.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (1)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | about a month ago | (#47742355)

India is doing well economically and I think they have the right idea: they promote high tech industry and have a couple of high profile projects like these. This makes them more independent, builds their economy, and instills national pride. The wrong way to do it is to take things one at a time: first get plumbing and sanitation in place, and only then work on getting a meal into every child's belly, and only then provide basic education, and only then introduce mechanised farming, and only then work on a national road network and electrical system, and so on. India's space program is money well (and frugally) spent.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47743177)

>The wrong way to do it is to take things one at a time: first get plumbing and sanitation in place, and only then work on getting a meal into every child's belly, and only then provide basic education, and only then introduce mechanised farming, and only then work on a national road network and electrical system, and so on. India's space program is money well (and frugally) spent.

So it's an excuse for not doing these things at all? India is such a shithole, and not because Indians are bad people. It's a shithole because they have the "can do" attitude when it comes to thing like space, but when it comes for caring for the bottom 50% of their country they're content to let them live like animals.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (1)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | about a month ago | (#47743327)

So it's an excuse for not doing these things at all?

They are doing both the space program and doing something about living conditions. The problem is that fixing poverty is hard, and like the problem of travelling to the moon or Mars, you don't solve it merely by allocating a budget, that's only the start. If fixing poverty was easy, a lot of other countries wouldn't have any. Hell, perhaps the USA wouldn't have any. And fixing their poor living conditions probably costs a multiple of what it costs to run their space program. According to their 2013 budget, the Rural Development Ministry alone receives over 16 times the ISRA budget. My point is that I think it would be a big mistake to shift the +- 1 billion $ space budget to further rural development.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47744803)

Dude, it's not about poverty, sure, we'll sadly have poverty in every nation.

But it's about sorting out the basics in the country before making such a massive leap into space!

Just like the person mentioned, sorting out basic sanitation for the country; cleanliness and water purification; ensuring most children have the facility of a good school; sorting out the education system and not prioritising it based on their cast or whatever; and then slowly taking it further by introducing more technology in different sectors, starting with agriculture/farming!

Oh and educating people to take a daily shower and not to take baths in (literally) shit polluted water - like the river ganges, etc.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (1)

Chewbacon (797801) | about a month ago | (#47744999)

Hold on there. Plumbing and sanitation is an absolute MUST before you start putting food in everyone's belly. Are YOU gonna clean up that mess?

Re:Congratulations, India ! (-1, Flamebait)

eastern (92669) | about a month ago | (#47742583)

I will congratulation India when they can stop shitting on the streets.
Oh snap I just fucking DESTROYED you.

Actually, it's mostly open fields, not streets.

You should try it some time. It isn't as bad as it's made out to be.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47744897)

That's the choice currently made by Indians who live under those conditions. No body else have any say on this. It is really very simple. Anybody that do not like this are welcome to avoid coming to, or avoid being in India. Remember that it can change when Indians, living under those conditions, decide to change.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47742331)

Not only their space launch costs much less than the one from NASA, it costs less than the one from ESA (Europe), from Japan, from Russia and from China !

We should learn from India on how to keep cost down

Again, congratulations are in order for India !!

Yeah, kinda funny how the beta flight costs billions to develop and deploy, and then once others do it a few times, people learn how to do it cheaper.

But somehow you see this as some kind of financial miracle brought from Ganesha himself when India steps up to bat.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47742343)

We should learn from India on how to keep cost down

I can teach you: pay people smaller salaries. Compare average income in India and The West to see why cost of building stuff is different. The cost of a potato is the income of the person who grew it.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (1)

m00sh (2538182) | about a month ago | (#47744063)

I can teach you: pay people smaller salaries. Compare average income in India and The West to see why cost of building stuff is different. The cost of a potato is the income of the person who grew it.

Total BS. With high tech projects, countries with lower per capita cannot compete because they cannot afford to buy the component pieces. Even if you have lots of people with low salaries in a warehouse, they can't just create the parts needed in a short time. Even if you have the components, you cannot just train people in a short time to integrate components that nobody in the country has used before.

You say the cost of potato is the income of the person who grew it. But, what about oil? The price is about the same throughout the world. Even making parts would cost a lot more since the even the raw materials are a larger portion of the budget.

I'm not an expert on India but what seems like a out of nowhere thing is usually a project started decades ago with lots of vision, leadership and direction. It's not just a lower salary so cheaper product thing.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47742369)

Yeah, too bad there's a billion people there with no running water or plumbing, but hey, pictures of a dead rock!

What *IS* this fucking emotional gushing you techno man-children have about space?

Re:Congratulations, India ! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47742425)

Yeah, too bad there's a billion people there with no running water or plumbing, but hey, pictures of a dead rock!

What *IS* this fucking emotional gushing you techno man-children have about space?

Your first point does overshadow all here, but let's not dismiss the urgency to get away from the bloodlust of warfare.

Anything seems to make more sense than sitting around killing ourselves while consuming this planet.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47742625)

And we would somehow become a peaceful species by cosuming some other planet? I see no particular reason to rush off this planet. It solves no problems whatsoever and creates so many new ones. We would not treat any other place any different - and if we do not learn how to get along with planet earth we wont learn how to get along with planet earth mark II and we just end up in the same situation there.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (1)

JockTroll (996521) | about a month ago | (#47742675)

Fuck becoming peaceful. We won't, ever. But at least we'll get to use cool spaceguns and mobile suits and nuke places from orbit just to be sure. And we'll kill a metric fuckton of people with DEWS and peebees and wave motion guns and whatever and spread they corpsicles into the merciless vacuum of space just for the lulz. And the idea of using the blood of schmucks like you as rocket fuel turns me on. I mean, it fucking gives me a hard-on. Who cares if it doesn't burn well, nothing screams FUCKING AWESOME like a rocket engine powered by boiling human blood! BRING IT ON!

Re:Congratulations, India ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47744801)

Fuck going into space. We won't, ever.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47744211)

How are we "consuming" this planet? Is there a black hole somewhere that we toss things in?

We also need to get away from the flesh lust of making more people. There's no other solution, and getting pictures of dead rocks that we have seen for half a century now doesn't change a thing.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (1)

Applehu Akbar (2968043) | about a month ago | (#47742581)

As opposed to California, where there are only forty million people without running water.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47744827)

Oh really?
Where's your source/proof?

And if that really is true, it must be the indian immigrants desperate to live in shit holes without basic water or sanitation - oh, just like back home.

Re: Congratulations, India ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47744975)

I think he was making a joke about drought in CA.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (0)

rubycodez (864176) | about a month ago | (#47742495)

the ONE country eh? No other country has put orbiters around Mars and landers on Mars multiple times in the last 40 years?

As for reduced cost, this Indian probe doesn't have a quarter the capability of NASA MRO

But give them a couple decades, they'll be where NASA is now

Re:Congratulations, India ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47744537)

I assume by that you mean coming up with grandiose schemes which are far in excess of their available budget, while not being able to maintain their existing programs because they cost to much.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (1)

rubycodez (864176) | about a month ago | (#47750697)

No, the points you raise are irrelevant. All government science programs are constrained by budget and other things, regardless of countries. So what, do you even have a point?

NASA has had incredible accomplishments with Mars exploration for over 40 years, limited budget and all.

Re:Congratulations, India ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47744937)

Too bad India cannot convert their know-how into enterprise like the Chinese.
The only things I find in America that's made in India are bargain basement trinkets like pots and pans, and some really poorly made tools at the reno depots.
The Israel of the east, hightech but nothing revenue generating, probably because, like Israel, most of the tech is licensed from foreign manufacturers.

Not news (4, Funny)

Jiro (131519) | about a month ago | (#47742191)

Because 9 million miles is no more newsworthy than 8 million or 10.

I'm reminded of the old joke:

"What famous event happened in 1732?"

"George Washington was born."

"Very good. Now what famous event happened in 1743?'

"George Washington became 11 years old."

Re:Not news (0, Troll)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | about a month ago | (#47742217)

I'm reminded of the old joke:
"What famous event happened in 1732?"
"George Washington was born."
"Very good. Now what famous event happened in 1743?'
"George Washington became 11 years old."

It must be an old joke alright, cuz I've never heard it, and it ain't funny.

Re:Not news (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47742339)

But it is insightful and intelligent. Maybe that's why you don't get it. But you are so cool that you use 'cuz' instead of because. Being cool and dismissive must make up for a lack of intelligence and insight. Carry on then.

Re:Not news (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47745463)

You must be an American.

Re:Not news (2)

Ksevio (865461) | about a month ago | (#47742301)

Well it's our one month warning. We need time to plan the Mars Orbit Entry Parties.

Re:Not news (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47742311)

Haters gonna hate.

MAVEN (1)

llamahunter (830343) | about a month ago | (#47742215)

I think there's also a NASA mission set to arrive at Mars on Sept 22nd, a few days before the ISRO one, no?

It's only ahead of Siding Spring by a month (2)

wisebabo (638845) | about a month ago | (#47742261)

Hmm... It's only ahead of the comet Siding Spring by about a month. Will it have time/fuel to "duck and cover" by getting to the far side of the planet before the close approach of the comet and the potential of a cometary dust storm that could wreck it? (Contrary to what some people think, it doesn't take much energy to change your orbital position IF you've got time. A simple change of 1 meter/sec from the thrusters will, after one year mean a distance of over 30,000 km. That simplification ignores some orbital dynamics but you get the picture.) Of course Mangalyaan doesn't have a year but it has much greater delta-vee capability, its orbital insertion burn is (I think) 1.6 KM/sec. And maybe it would've been on the far side of the planet anyway.

On the other hand, maybe it's near the comet NOW, or nearer to the comet than any other spacecraft. Perhaps it can take some good close-ups of the comet or at least see it from a different angle. (If it can see a full or partial eclipse of the sun by the comet, scientists may be able to determine the comet's composition or the composition of the comet's coma. It might be able to do it using radio wave occultation from earth.). In any case, it's good that there will be another spacecraft near the comet when it arrives at mars! Too bad the U.S. isn't willing to risk sacrificing one of its older orbiters (I think one has been around mars for about a decade) for a close flyby. (Again, given enough advance planning, a surprisingly small amount of delta-vee would be required to put one of the orbiters on a collision course, especially if gravitational chaotic resonances AKA "the interplanetary highway" were harnessed.)

Too bad we didn't know about this close encounter say a decade ago. We might have been able to send a probe that could've used mars' gravity to slingshot a probe into a matching trajectory with it so that, like the ESA Rosetta probe, we could rendezvous, orbit and land on it!

Re:It's only ahead of Siding Spring by a month (1)

rasmusbr (2186518) | about a month ago | (#47742375)

Another way to look at it is that the close encounter between a comet and Mars is perhaps a once in a century opportunity to learn about how material from the comet interacts with Mars and its atmosphere, so the satellites in orbit around Mars should mainly be looking down at the effects on Mars.

Spacecraft-comet encounters can be had a lot more frequently than spacecraft-planet-comet encounters.

Re:It's only ahead of Siding Spring by a month (1)

RockDoctor (15477) | about a month ago | (#47763867)

Will it have time/fuel to "duck and cover" by getting to the far side of the planet before the close approach of the comet and the potential of a cometary dust storm that could wreck it?

While this is a non-zero probability event, it is a low probability event. I doubt that the mission planners are particularly worried about it.

Maybe if there's a mission-compatible way of sequencing things that will reduce this low probability even further, at little cost (which is what Hubble did during a predicted Leonid meteor shower ; but the Hubble Deep Field South was already planned, and the only real change was when the exposures were scheduled. Which by coincidence pointed the HST away from the radiant of the meteor shower.)

Incidentally I note that the mission is being monitored by the Indian Deep Space Network. Which either operates for a few hours a day (per mission, depending on direction to the spacecraft), or indicates that India has done some significant multi-national diplomacy to get their ground stations into a number of countries.

LMGTFY. There's a Wiki [wikipedia.org] page that says it's one site near Bangalore. And that mentions the use of steerable antennae to " improve[s] the visibility duration". But this site [isro.org] says there are a number of other tracking sites. "ISRO Telemetry, Tracking and Command Network (ISTRAC) [...] has a network of ground stations at Bangalore, Lucknow, Sriharikota, Port Blair and Thiruvananthapuram in India besides stations at Mauritius, Bearslake (Russia), Brunei and Biak (Indonesia). " So, maybe several different organisations, with overlapping missions and facilities. Like Topsy, it's probably something that "just growed".

Hacked ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47742401)

According to the docs the lift-off mass is 1337 kg

Hey Indians! (0)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about a month ago | (#47742517)

Your MOM is so fat...OK, that's old.

Re:Hey Indians! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47745467)

LOL we are indians - we belong to a country that is not exactly rolling in nutritional food.

Fat Momma.. jokes are better for Americans or east europeans!

Re:Hey Indians! (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about a month ago | (#47745931)

This MOM was an acronym, obviously. (Well...I'm really not sure now how obvious it is, in retrospect.)

DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47742461)

It will not even crash land. It will burn up in entry.

There's a joke here about tech support (1)

jpellino (202698) | about a month ago | (#47743017)

when the orbiter phones home, but I'm too tired at the moment to suss it out.

Re: There's a joke here about tech support (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47743561)

"Hello"

"Hello, is this Mangalyaan?"

"No, my name is Bob"

Road side service (1)

ilotgov (637717) | about a month ago | (#47743833)

This must be the Flat Tyre Service (http://cria.co.in/crweb/flat-tyre-service/ [cria.co.in] ) honouring the rumoured subscription of cash-strapped NASA.
Considering the damage (http://www.space.com/26472-mars-rover-curiosity-wheel-damage.html [space.com] ) there was no way Cross Roads (http://cria.co.in/crweb/ [cria.co.in] ) could wiggle out of it's responsibility.

A little late to be planning (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about a month ago | (#47744279)

presently busy planning to reduce the speed of the spacecraft through the process of firing the LAM engine

I'd hope they'd have got all of the planning done before launch, and would instead be getting busy implementing.

Re:A little late to be planning (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47744795)

It is assured that all the simulations, timing, planning for implementation have been discussed, thought through over and over, and people are ready for execution.

Congratulations, India! (3)

GenaTrius (3644889) | about a month ago | (#47745101)

I need to give Indian culture some serious study at some point, both ancient and contemporary. What little I've learned so far has been fascinating. I wouldn't be at all surprised if India surpassed the US in international prominance in a few decades.

Is Mangalyaan chasing a zephyr? (1)

Squidlips (1206004) | about a month ago | (#47745363)

Isn't it designed to look for Methane in Mars' atmosphere? And didn't the MSL rover (Curiousity) determine that there is no detectable methane in the air, at least at Gale, right?

Re:Is Mangalyaan chasing a zephyr? (1)

Bismuthprince (2938227) | about a month ago | (#47746887)

If I'm correct, methane is lighter than carbon dioxide. Isn't it possible that methane that was produced long ago has settled on top of the CO2 layer, and can't really be detected from ground level?
I'm actually seriously asking, I have no clue.

As a point of information... (1)

whitroth (9367) | about a month ago | (#47749439)

Who built the rocket and spacecraft? Was it the Indian space agency, or was it built by large aerospace companies for India?

              mark "is he suggesting that the govenment, on civil service wages, could do it cheaper?"

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