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Apple iWalk: Mac OS-X based PDA?

CmdrTaco posted more than 12 years ago | from the holy-cow-that-looks-sweet dept.

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Per Wigren noted that SpyMac claims to have pictures of the iWalk, the mysterious secret project scheduled to be announced any time now. It is apparently something between a subnotebook and a PDA running a scaled down OSX. Supposedly it can be a portable MP3 player, and it has apple's airport stuff built in. CT Nope. They announced the iPod instead, a lame MP3 player.

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291 comments

PIRST (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465740)

FOST?

Re:PIRST (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465775)

Now why dont you just take a moment to get your breath. I mean you must be nearly gaging from ganking down your dad for hours on end with no break.

Cumguzzler.

Holey carp (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465916)

This server almost goes down as frequently as CmdrTaco's mom goes down on me.

Slow Down Cowboy!

Slashdot requires you to wait 2 minutes between each successful camel humping to allow everyone a fair chance at humping a camel.

It's been 1 minute since you last successfully posted a comment

First post (-1, Flamebait)

ThE_DoOmSmItH (202602) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465743)

why someone would use a macintosh is beyond me...

whatever u like i guess :)

Re:First post (2)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465756)

they have realy nice hardware and the box is layed out like a piece of artwork. that is why.

Re:First post (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465853)

I'd venture a guess that, since you are mentally retarded and incapable of conceiving a rational thought, many things are "beyond" you.

Re:First post (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465906)

>many things are "beyond" you.

Including the fact that Apple reps have already said about the product "It's not a Mac."

Re:First post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465914)

>ThE_DoOmSmItH

>why someone would use a macintosh is beyond me...

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FP? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465745)

FP?

Great. (-1, Offtopic)

$0 31337 (225572) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465746)

Great.

Pictures (1)

Cadre (11051) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465752)

Hard to believe these are real, considering they had very similar pictures on just the other night that were obviously rendered (badly).

Re:Pictures (2)

pete-classic (75983) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465753)

Yeah, just like the cube.

Oh, wait . . .

-Peter

Take a close look at the shadows (4, Insightful)

Lethyos (408045) | more than 12 years ago | (#2466003)

And look at the shadows coming from the cigarette box. They don't match up, do they? :)

There seems to be two light sources. One immediately above and behind the photographer, like a florescent ceiling light, which is evidenced by the reflection on the keyboard. The other source appears to be an regular incandescent also behind the viewer, casting shadows on the cigarettes that goes up. The shadow from the iWalk device is going to the upper left. They just don't seem consistent. There's also a *very* faint shadow leaning *towards* the photographer. Also notice the wrinkles on the sheet of paper beneath the iWalk. The shadows cast by them are also going "up", like from the cigarette box. Funny how it's the only object in the scene that casts light in its own unique direction. Light also does not seem to fall naturally on the device itself.

A few other observations I noticed... Zoom in close on the image. Other objects in the scene are slightly more crisp than the device itself.

Maybe I'm wrong, but the scene just looks very unnatural, but this may only be become I'm looking at it so intently. But if you ask me, that is definitely a mock up. :)

More information (1)

noz (253073) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465757)

MacOS Rumors [mosr.com] has some information here [mosr.com] which details how secretive it is (under heading similar to, and along the lines of, 'non-project workers kept in dark until Monday').

Interesting... (3, Insightful)

Millennium (2451) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465758)

...but these look fake to me. Almost definitely 3D-rendered. Maybe useful as an "artists' conception" pic, but that's not what this was touted as.

And besides, Apple already said "it's not a Mac." This looks a lot like a Mac to me, albeit a reeeeeeeeally small one.

Why are people so obsessed with the idea of Apple releasing a PDA, anyway?

Re:Interesting... (4, Insightful)

jcr (53032) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465774)

Why are people so obsessed with the idea of Apple releasing a PDA, anyway?

Because the Newton was so *close* to what we all wanted.

-jcr

newton... (1)

simpl3x (238301) | more than 12 years ago | (#2466031)

the only reason i stopped using it was the fact that apple was discontinuing the product line. way ahead of the curve, but an osx base could be very cool. accessing pine via a wireless connection will be quite cool.

Re:Interesting... (1)

aduthie (530266) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465801)

And because Apple manufactured the first modern PDA...

Re:Interesting... (1)

eclip5e (19238) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465826)

When Apple came out with the Newton, it did well at first, then flopped over time. It was well ahead of its time, but there wasn't a big enough market to support it.

"Why are people so obsessed with the idea of Apple releasing a PDA, anyway?"

When the Newton came out, techies were amazed at its handwriting recognition software, and general ease of use. What they were also amazed at was its price tag.

Both the NeXT and the Newton were ahead of the market, but very nice products. It seems the hype about this new device is possibly the fact that Apple tends to release new products that are ahead of the market, but are none-the-less fantastic.

Re:Interesting... (1)

j_d (26865) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465935)


When the Newton came out, techies were amazed at its handwriting recognition software


I quote Dilbert :"Weave me a cone, bat".
amazed might not be the best word, eh?

Re:Interesting... (5, Insightful)

zulux (112259) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465836)

Evidence of Faked Photo:

The Direction of the shadow for the IWalk doesen't match the direction of the shadow for the pack of cigerettes.

There is no hard shadow under the IWalk.

The scale is off - the whole cursor pad that has five buttons on the IWalk is the same size as the Apple 'flower' key on the keyboard. You'd have to have small fingers to press that!

The bright reflection of the light on the IWalk is from a differing angle than the reflection on the cigerette box - the cigerette box relects the light onto the paper tward the upper left - indicating a bright light in the upper left, while the IWalk reflection indicates that the bright light is in the lower left.

Perhaps the Iwalk exists, but I thinks it's more of a Web-pad sized instead of PDA sized due to the scale of the cursor buttons.

This is plausible. (2)

jcr (53032) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465759)

I can't quite tell from the somewhat over-compressed image whether it's been doctored or not, but if this isn't the real deal, it's one of the better hoaxes I've ever seen.

-jcr

Re:This is plausible. (1)

MaxVlast (103795) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465792)

I'd be happy is that was the device =)

Here's the text from the site (0)

invisik (227250) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465762)

The iWalk - as the new mysterious device is called that is going to be announced on Tuesday 23rd of this month - has advanced considerably over the last weeks. Previous versions spotted at the Apple campus featured firewire- and network-ports (located within a port-replicator connected to the device using what is appearantly called the "gigawire"-port) in addition to Apple's own AirPort-technology. Though AirPort was dropped a while ago due to high power consumption, it appears to be back in by now. The network-port was replaced by a standard 56k modem which allows direct access to data stored on Apple's iDisk servers.

The current version of iWalk does not appear to be ready for mass-production by now and therefore will only be announced on Tuesday 23rd but won't be out in the stores until somewhen in December (approximatly two weeks before christmas).

So what is the "iWalk"? Many people have asked that question. The iWalk is a kind of PDA with a lot more features than one could have previously expected: It features a high-color TFT-screen with handwriting recognition (using former newton-technology so it's a lot better than current palm os recognition) and direct access to both data stored on local macs (using AirPort) or on iDisk-volumes (using either routing through AirPort or the built-in modem). It has audio in- and output-ports so it can act as a usual mp3-player when connected to a stereo. The amazing feature is that mp3 files don't have to be stored locally on the device but can be streamed via AirPort from any Mac that has an AirPort-card and iTunes 2 installed which is going to be released on Tuesday as well.

This is not the only feature of iWalk though: Is has all the usual PDA-applications installed and is capable of recording speach as mp3 files using a build-in microphone. (It has built-in speakers as well but those aren't of good quality as it seems)

The operating system of this device appears to be a scaled-down version of OS X. Don't get this wrong: OS X in its current form would be painfully slow on any processor slower than a G3 but it is a modular system which appearantly allowed Apple to skip many parts of the OS that require a lot of processing power and instead concentrate on the basis functionality such a device requires. Aqua has not been implemented but instead a UI similar to the QuickTime- and iTunes-interface is used that can be controlled via touch-screen and handwriting-recognition.

Features of the current version (which is likely to be the one that is going to be announced on Tuesday) include:

TFT-Display (512x256 resolution, 65k colors)
memory of 128 MB for low-end-version, 256 MB high-end
one firewire IEE 1394 FireWire-port
one 56k MoDem
OS X (scaled-down "newtonlike"-version)
LiIon-battery (20 h / approx. 9 days standby)

One of our informers has had a chance to take a few photographs of the iWalk-device that are shown below. Click on the thumbnails to see a full- scale-image.

jeez (1)

pelorus (463100) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465763)

I hope it's a fake cos...it doesn't look "breakthrough" to me. Was only a matter of time until /. featured those fakes.


*yawn*

$$? (1)

sadclown (303554) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465766)

This seems like a great product, surely designed to steal Palm's market share. The determing factor for success is going to be the price, which, if Apple stays true to form, is sure to be exorbitant.

I'm guessing $699.

Re:$$? (1)

Zurk (37028) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465794)

if it was $199 everyone would jump on it. and if it had a flash disk instead of losing all the data when the power goes out like the palmpilots. i know i certainly would.
and running a NeXT/UNIX derived OS with an 802.11b port would be really cool.

Apple isn't known for its low-cost solutions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465855)

Their last PDA was the Messagepad 2100, and it cost $1199. I really doubt they will change their greedy tune. Remember, they're in Cupertino, where Hobbees restaurant charges $2 for *toast*.

They didn't learn with the Newton? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465767)

Great, I can carry buggy, crashy, portable gayness with me wherever I go.

Dell? (3, Funny)

ipxodi (156633) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465768)

Perhaps thay don't actually USE the Macs -- notice the DELL parts bag under the pack of smokes? Maybe they actually use PCs whenever Jobs isn't looking!

Remember: Rumors. (4, Insightful)

Xunker (6905) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465769)

No matter how much you want to believe this (and believe me, I want to), you have to notice two very important things: One, that the Apple rumor world isn't mearly as accurate as it was before the reign of heir Jobs, and the most important one is that Apple has said publicly on two occasions (that come to mind) that there will be no Apple Portables aside from laptops.

I want this to be true as I still hold a candle for the lost Newton division, but I've seen these rumours before, and they've never come to fruition then either.

But then again, we never thought we'd have a Mac OS with protected memory, either, so there is a (very) slim chance, I guess. But don't hold youir breath.

Re:Remember: Rumors. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465934)

before the reign of heir Jobs

It's Herr Jobs, not heir Jobs.

Fix your damn web site (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465771)

Nice, it was just down again. I don't care what you have to do, ditch MySQL or whatever, but the reliability of your site is absolutely pathetic. Maybe it's time to think about using some robust closed source tools instead of this cobbled-together crap you've got going now. And you actually plan to get people to subscribe to this? Talk about delusional...

Subscribe so Rob can afford Oracle. (1, Informative)

Wakko Warner (324) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465786)

It's about 15 grand for a webserver license... so maybe we could get 15 thousand slashdot users to sign up for a dollar a year (that's about all I'd pay) so Rob could afford a database that's a little more robust than a flat text file...

- A.P.

Someone to take the place of Psion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465773)

Every since the demise of the Psion Revo (Diamond Mako) I've been hoping for a company to step up and take it's place. Since no one else seems to be doing it, maybe Mac will.

From what the picture looks like, I doubt that will be what the final release looks like, it's not rounded enough for a Mac. Then there's the question, will it be PC compatible... I doubt it. What's more, it will probably require OS X... It's about time they came out with a handheld though, it's been a long time since the Newton.

PDAs, Plasma TVs...I'll wait (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465776)

I'm a patient man. I'll wait for three years until the units are not only ten times as good as they are now, but a twentieth of the cost.

I would appreciate it if the rest of you would fund R&D by buying first gen systems though.

Why not wait 2 freaking minutes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465777)

The reall realease will be out within the day and why not just wait untell you know for sure instead of posting rumors.

A little late in the game for rumors (4, Funny)

eXtro (258933) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465778)

Reporting on rumors is fine, they're even entertaining. However when the real device is going to be unveiled in a few hours its a bit pointless. Besides, everybody knows its going to be the iBrator!

*Shameless attempt at karma whoring* (1)

NTSwerver (92128) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465852)


Touche! For those who missed it, here [briarskin.com] is the iBrator.

TOTALLY Doctored (4, Insightful)

Paleh0rse (142139) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465779)

I'm not saying that thing doesn't exist, But certainly doesn't belong in that picture. Just compare the shadows from the iWalk and the box of Cigarettes to the left.

Not to mention that I doubt Apple would make anything with buttons that tiny so close together.

Cheers.

Re:TOTALLY Doctored (4, Funny)

Zico (14255) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465788)

Not to mention that I doubt Apple would make anything with buttons that tiny so close together.


Actually, seeing how this is Apple, it's doubtful that there would even be more than one button. Ya know, too confusing for the target Apple market and all. ;)

Re:TOTALLY Doctored (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465850)

fuck off zicotroll.

Re:TOTALLY Doctored (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2466010)

fucking moron

Re:TOTALLY Doctored -not (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465885)


the shadow if fine, we are not dealing w/ a parallel light source it is a point sorce close to the device, the shadow is consitant w/ a desk lamp. though a pack of cigarets inside apple offices is odd.

Re:TOTALLY Doctored (1)

KurdtX (207196) | more than 12 years ago | (#2466019)

Not only shadows, but the reflections. Notice that the keyboard and cigarettes both reflect the ambient lighting but the (presumably somewhat) metallic "iWalk" reflects nothing. It also doesn't even seem to have the same light source (lower right) as the others (lower left).

A better rumor is here: Apple's iCrate [macosrumors.com] .

The picture a fake ? (1)

clarkie.mg (216696) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465782)

I am not sure but the picture on spymac seems to have been manipulated. Look at the apple logo, there is a perspective problem.

Another possibility is that the story is real and that the photo has been edited to make the device look like the retail product.

If it's a PDA, I hope it won't be too expensive so it can be a killer.

Re:The picture a fake ? (1)

MaxVlast (103795) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465805)

> If it's a PDA, I hope it won't be
> too expensive so it can be a killer.

Argh. I was about to settle on a PDA/cell phone device. If this is legit, I'll have to reconsider the whole shebang.

FAKE Image (1)

trevry (225903) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465783)

The photo that's with the article is a fake, clever, but a fake. The perspective on the "iWalk" is all wrong when compared to the fag box and the keyboard. Also the reflected light levels are wrong on the device. I will say this though. If the device is real, i'll be buying one.

Re:FAKE Image (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465856)

This appears to be fake. Apple started the iMac name, and everyone else copied. I can't imagine that they'd continue to use it.

Plus, Apple doesn't seem to be the owner of iWalk.com, AppleiWalk.* etc.

Interesting to see what the device is.... MacOSRumors seems to be dead at the moment though :(

Re:FAKE Image (1)

cosmo7 (325616) | more than 12 years ago | (#2466036)

hey dude, don't call that mac a "fag box"!

not PDA - multimedia assistant, rather (1)

jonnycowboy (515894) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465789)

The so-called iWalk is less PDA and more multimedia assistant. Rumors abound that it will serve as a airport-compatible music, video, and data (no, not personal calendar/address book).
eWeek [eweek.com] will apparently have post-press conference coverage. (the press release for the iWalk is today at 10am PST).

Looks fake to me... (1)

leinhos (143965) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465793)

The shadows on the "unit" don't seem to match those cast by the cig box right next to it.

bullllllllshit (1)

jeffehobbs (419930) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465796)


That is the fakey-est fake picture that ever faked a fake.

~jeff

as usual we're doubtful (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465797)

and if last time's g4 cube is any indication, we're gonna be wrong

does anybody remember the seemingly percieving comments made about the g4 cube leaked pictures last time around?

modified picture of a washing machine?
power switch pops up instead of in and vice versa?
impossibility of no fan?
obviously retouched with blur?

the slashdot community is amusing...i think it never learns

IWalk Personal Transportation? (1)

Psiven (302490) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465799)

Wasn't Steve Jobs working with Amazon.com's Jeff Bestos on a "revolutionary transport" device? I doubt anything will be announced related to this today, but now is the time they said they would announce something. It is, however, "not a mac". So maybe.....

"i" prefix......again (1)

Red Moose (31712) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465809)

Right, this "i" prefix shit is getting out of hand. What the hell does it mean? Is it supposed to mean it's hi-tech or something?

I thought Apple were meant to be the "marketeers" of the computer industry - making a fortune from selling shitty overpriced blue-Mactinosh's with limited expandability. But iTunes? iMac? iWalk?

I won't start on Compaq. iPAQ? WTF is the "i" for? Anybody?

Re:"i" prefix......again (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465866)

The "i" means it was designed using only integers.

Re:"i" prefix......again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465872)

Everyone knows it's COMPACT

Re:"i" prefix......again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465927)

i is for idiot OR

imbecile OR

inept OR

ignorant

Re:"i" prefix......again (1)

yellowjacket03 (470997) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465939)

The "i" is supposed to stand for internet. This was the idea when Jobs' was high on crack for the idea of network computers.

iWalk (3, Interesting)

macpeep (36699) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465811)

Do a search on iWalk on Google and you'll find an existing product with that name. The product is one that Wired covered a while back about some kind of artificial leg. It seems unlikely that Apple would use the name of an existing product. http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,39262,00.ht ml [wired.com]

Re:iWalk (2)

toupsie (88295) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465848)

Apple has used "iBook" even though another product has used that name. However I don't think that "iWalk" will be announced. Its a cool looking hoax in my opinion. My bet is "iKerbango". I had one ordered for six months at Amazon before it was cancelled.

Obvious fake (5, Interesting)

Masker (25119) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465819)

There were earlier pictures that have been removed now, but were easier to spot as fakes. Here is some discussion on MacNN [macnn.com] about the "iWalk". Also note that "iWalk" is not a registered trademark of Apple.

What is an Apple trademark, though, is the "iPod" [ipaustralia.gov.au] (NOTE: if you can't get the page to display, just start a new search for "iPod"). From the description, though, it does sound like a PDA...

Nice of Slashdot to finally put a story of this up... The original invitations went out last Friday!

Re:Obvious fake (1)

Auckerman (223266) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465947)

You don't need detail explainations to say this is a fake. All you need to remeber is the amount of applause ol' Stevie got when he showed the Powerbook G4's Apple logo appeared right side up when the book was opened, so others could clearly see the Apple logo (before then the logo appeared upside down). This iWalk has the Apple logo, upside down, a mistake that a clearly astetic Apple would not make when even color matters.

It's not real (4, Funny)

m0nkyman (7101) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465822)

Apple's rabid lawyers haven't forced them to take it down yet, therefore it can't be real

Reliable handwriting recognition ???? (1)

Polaris (9232) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465825)

From the story:

[H]andwriting recognition (using former newton-technology so it's a lot better than current palm os recognition)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Newton's handwriting recognition suck big time? (Even made an episode of the Simpsons, as I recall)

Re:Reliable handwriting recognition ???? (1)

Kartoffel (30238) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465861)

It depends. Newton's handwriting recognition could actually learn your particular writing style. Palm's Graffiti forces users to write with graffiti.

Re:Reliable handwriting recognition ???? (1)

mkelley (411060) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465877)

My Newton 120 came with Graffiti. I use it and the virtual keyboard instead of the built in Apple software. That was the first project of Palm's before they built a PDA.

Re:Reliable handwriting recognition ???? (1)

William R. Dickson (200706) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465926)

The original Newton OS handwriting recognition was pretty sucky. NOS 2.0's handwriting recognition was pretty damn stellar; I used it a lot for about a year before I decided the Newton 130 was just too darn big to carry everywhere.

I'm skeptical about an Apple PDA, though. The market for PDA's is in pretty sad shape right now; there's not much there for Apple to capture right now, even if they did make a good product at a good price.

Good to see Apple re-entering the PDA marketplace (0, Troll)

UltraBot2K1 (320256) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465828)

We all know that Apple invented and perfected the GUI a decade before Microsoft Windows became useable. What fewer may remember is that Apple invented the PDA as well, in the form of the Newton [planetnewton.com] . The Newton had everything you could want in a PDA, including handwriting recongntion, and was out a good 5 years before the Palm even began to take off. Unfortunately, Apple once again found itself ahead of the time.


Hopefully, this time the public will be smart enough to recognize Apple's genius before it's too late.

Re:Good to see Apple re-entering the PDA marketpla (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465971)

Invented? Perfected? Improved for useability, perhaps, but not invented. Its funny, all the apple history books and the wozniak (sp?) speeches seem to forget ibm and xerox and the other minicomputer and pc makers of those times.

PDAs on Endor (3, Funny)

Kartoffel (30238) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465829)

Why not call it the eWalk instead?

Imagine an Apple ad campaign with little furry creatures running around the forest carrying colorful translucent PDAs.

No NIC? (1)

Zo0ok (209803) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465834)

Seems like a very lightweight laptop to me... but with neither a NIC nor a HD it probably wont do that job very well...

IF it had a NIC, it could mount NFS, and that would be more cool...

Any "device" that can run a fully featured Unix with network support should be useful for some thing or some persons.

the "iwalk" name is already taken... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465835)

I really doubt iwalk is the final name of the device, because it's been used so many times previously for so many kinds of things. Just do a web search and you'll see. Everything from walkathons, crutches, wheelchairs, etc. They would have to pay off whoever owns the name in order to be able to use it.

Finally saw an MP3 player that makes sense... (1)

WillAdams (45638) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465838)

in Parade Magazine in the Sunday paper of all places....

It's the size and shape of a cassette, and in addition to holding 64MB of music (or files?) and working as an MP3 player with headphone jack, it'll actually play when placed in a cassette player (say in one's car---does it respond to ffwd and rwnd controls?)

Didn't trouble to look to closely since it's $230...

As much as I too would like to see an Apple PDA, I just can't see that happening given what Apple has said in the past :(

William

IT'S FAKE (4, Informative)

ink (4325) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465847)

I can't believe Slashdot got dupped. Oh wait, yes I can. :) Anyway:


The MacNN forums (www.macnn.com ahem the most reliable) have debunked this as a doctored up Harmon Kardon amplifier and a Microsoft remote control.

Mac OS compatibility announced with Sensate's.... (1)

Psiven (302490) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465849)

...Wireless Server/Client

Here's something related:

http://www.twomobile.com/content/771.php
http://www.sensateinc.com/

Nice Fake (3, Insightful)

msheppard (150231) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465858)

The 'icing on the fake' is the box of marbs middle right and the Rorschach Ink Blot middle left.

How old is spymac.com? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465868)


It looks to me like this may be their premiere, um, issue.

If it is, that's sad. Right out of the gate they've got this ridiculous, obviously fake report. Apple will be revealing the real device today. I mean, if you're going to make something like this up, at least do it a month or more before the expected (real or not) release date.

Also, they probably wish they'd gotten some advertising before they got /.'d.

Art schooling required! (1)

fivespan (414382) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465869)

If the image was just a little better, I might believe the post.

The shadow and highlights just don't jive with the cigarette package.

Sorry, I'm iWalkin' away from this one.

Best line of the write up (3, Interesting)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465876)

with handwriting recognition (using former newton-technology so it's a lot better than current palm os recognition)

LOL! First of all, the Newton sucked when it came to handwriting recognition. Second of all, the guy doesn't even seem to realize that Palm OS doesn't do handwriting recognition, it does gesture recognition with Graffiti, which is why it was successful. Palm was smart enough to know that handwriting recognition sucks and will always suck like voice recognition until we get better AI-based pattern recognition and language context theories (no, it won't be solved solely by processor speed).

Re:Best line of the write up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465966)

LOL! First of all, the Newton sucked when it came to handwriting recognition. Second of all, the guy doesn't even seem to realize that Palm OS doesn't do handwriting recognition, it does gesture recognition with Graffiti, which is why it was successful. Palm was smart enough to know that handwriting recognition sucks and will always suck like voice recognition until we get better AI-based pattern recognition and language context theories (no, it won't be solved solely by processor speed).


And you apparently never used a Newton device.


I used a Newton for a while... The origional model, although a few years after it's prime so it had had some patches installed. The recognition wasn't perfect, but it got better as *I* used it, and worse for the other people who wanted to try it. My handwriting is a nasty scrawl and it did pretty well...


The later models were said to improve this.

Re:Best line of the write up (1)

scrutty (24640) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465979)

Many people actually thought that by the time the MessagePad reched the 2000 series the handwriting recognition was pretty danm good and certainly far from sucky.
Mud sticks and the 100 series recognition was pretty bad - this saddled the whole product line with a reputation of poor interface - this is because it was released too early to match the massive PDA Hype flying around. Apple scrapped the recogniton software and did it again for the later Models and the 2000 / 2100 / eMates actually worked quite amazingly if you were prepared to spend a little time with it and let it "learn" your writing .

Have you ever actually USED a newton? (2)

mindstrm (20013) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465985)

The handwriting recognition was absolutely SUPERB. At least on the one I used.
Sure.. it made mistakes at first. But you have to tell it about the mistakes... and pretty soon the little newton can regocnize my handwriting even when I couldn't!

I was absolutely amazed at how well the handwriting recognition on it worked.

what a source! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465895)

Well well well... yet another fake pre-released product form Apple... No really that's dumb. It really looks like a fake picture... not even the same grain on the iWalk and the rest of the picture... I won't talk about it since so many have already done so. The picture is fake.

But what kind of a source is that... the only piece of information on this site is this pseudo pre-release thing. No archives, no past news... it's really out of nowhere...

It's not like it's the first new mac preview fake we've seen. We should stop caring for those... really... especially here!

Photoshop does wonderful things (1)

greeny (257865) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465902)

It does.

It manages to fool even people here at slashdot.

Now, look, I want an iWalk too...but this isn't going to be what Apple shows in about...umm.....20 minutes or so from my count.

Meanwhile this is just a way to attract traffic to another mac rumor site.

I loved the newton. So much better than any of the WinCE, Linux based (gasp!) or Palm units. They'd have years of development by now.

But what will be announced? It sure as hell won't be a PDA.

:-(

But I'm still taking bets for the next fifteen minutes or so. 10 to 1 odds.

fake? could be real... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465912)

I remember when the Mac cube early-release pics came out people were saying the exact same things...analyzing the shadows, glare, etc. In the end, as bizarre as they looked, they were real!

Just one word... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465915)

Newton.

Go Apple!

It's all in the shadows... (1)

x136 (513282) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465919)

Look at the picture. It looks kinda doctored to begin with, but check out the shadows. One perfect shadow in one direction in what looks like a multi flourescent lit area. It doesn't even match up to the cigarette box's shadow. Bogus.

Not saying it isn't going to look like that, but that picture is definitely fake.

And WTF is with the Dell (eww) logo?

Another Mac Rumors Site!!! (1)

MonkeyMadness (465192) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465920)

Cool, I'll take three iWalks, and some Alex Chiu Magnetic Rings for my toes and a ride on the back of a Yeti.

Oh wait... this is a mac rumors site, the iWalk may not exist.

Fake Pics? (1)

compugeek007 (464717) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465944)

Hmmmm... The actual book looks fake, and it is sitting on the table at a truly odd tilt / angle. Also look around the picture, on the table is some Dell letterhead, a pack of Marlboros and a smeared copy. This isn't Apple HQ or a project lab but someones house (prob spymac's webmasters desk!) If it is real (not likely) then it is at someones house - that means an engineer who is able to take it home. If I was able to take home a secret work project, I wouldn't release pictures on the internet and have my PHB find them.

On the technical side look at the shadow for the Iwalk (alleged) it falls to the upper left of the Iwalk, however, no similar shadow falls on the marlboros. Also, light is reflecting off of the celophane wrapper on the cigarettes to the upper left. This would point that the light source of the picture was coming from the upper left, but the shadow placement on the Iwalk contradicts that. Also, under magnification there are pixels that border the Iwalk that are whiter then the surronding table. I would say a good 3D render, but it is a fake

Besides, YOU KNOW Mac's PDA will be translucent pink, or paisley or some shit like that!!

--cgeek--

iWalk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465954)

You can clearly tell this image is a rendering, due to the fact of how it reflects its inviroment. Everything in the image has a pink or rose hue in the whites and hightlights, either from the light or some other red hue object in the room. The "iWalk" does not, it maintains its pure gray color.

Next time ask yourself first, does it reflect its surroundings. This is the easiest way to pick a rendering out.

If it had a phone... (2)

TomatoMan (93630) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465956)

...I'd be all over it. If not, it's cute, but, well, cute.

Attention all PDA and phone manufacturers: we are sick and tired of carrying around a PDA and a phone. Got it? Put them together, preferably in a form smaller and lighter than a small boulder, and priced not too much higher than the two things separately. You'll be rich.

If Apple could stick a phone into a sexy Apple OSX-based PDA that I could plug into my mac, they'd have another pile of my money double-quick, that's for sure. The more M$ scares me with their Big Brother plans, the more I'm dying to lock into something else. C'mon Apple, give me some hope.

Re:If it had a phone... (2)

Lxy (80823) | more than 12 years ago | (#2466040)

They do. Verizon wireless (I think Sprint too) sells a Palm V that runs a phone application with a keypad, speaker, and mic. It's pretty neat. When used as a phone, it just looks a little bulky. Fold down the mic, speaker, and slide the keypad, poof, Palm V. I can't seem to find a pic of it though.

obvious fake (1)

grafikhugh (529618) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465965)

It has more than one button...

airport (1)

posix4 (262526) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465968)

I would think 802.11 would use too much power.

Apple doesn't do pre-releases like this (1)

unconfused1 (173222) | more than 12 years ago | (#2465976)

I can't believe that Apple would do a pre-release of this device. They were not even telling their own employees not directly involved!

The picture looks pretty fake too. It looks a lot like the first Windows CE PDA's.

Most obvious reason it's a fake (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2465986)


The Apple logo is the wrong way up. Apple stopped doing that a few years ago.

The most obvious reason that it's fake (1)

AtaruMoroboshi (522293) | more than 12 years ago | (#2466001)



The apple logo is the wrong way up. Apple stopped doing that a couple years ago.

The apple should be upright when the screen is open, not upside down.

lol, the smokes dwarf it. hoax (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2466009)

Phony picture, or Marlbrough has come out with super-sized cigs.
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