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Software "Open Monopoly"

Hemos posted more than 12 years ago | from the could-it-happen dept.

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garoush writes "The following article is at C|Net.news Software "open monopoly". In it "Sun developers Petr Hrebejk and Tim Boudreau say the economics of open-source software will break Microsoft's operating system hammerlock and replace it with a what they describe as an 'open monopoly.'" I Personally have issues with such claims. With .NET, MS is positioning the company at "services" -- in effect MS is now gearing up to take on a new monopoly: "services" at the "consumer" level. If you agree, I don't see how "open monopoly" can break MS. After all, your average "Joe the consumer" doesn't know a thing about open source. " The submittor has an interesting point - but I think that even if John Q Public knows nothing about open source, if the services he uses are running open source, it doesn't matter.

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Software "Open Anus" (-1, Offtopic)

Trolligula (527461) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473308)

It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality,' which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to pedophilia.

What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates:

  • Linus Torvalds [microsoft.com] is an anagram of slit anus or VD 'L,' clearly referring to himself by the first initial.
  • Richard M. Stallman [geocities.com] , spokespervert for the Gaysex's Not Unusual 'movement' is an anagram of mans cram thrill ad.
  • Alan Cox [microsoft.com] is barely an anagram of anal cox which is just so filthy and unchristian it unnerves me.

I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic homosexual [goatse.cx] propaganda diatribe The Cathedral and the Bizarre, is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum. Update: Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for secondary rim and cord in my arse. It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.

Update the Second: It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail [microsoft.com] , which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise. For those not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum. In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.'

As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was actually quoted [salon.com] on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance,' he says. 'It's about being able to question conventional wisdom,' he asserts. 'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says plainly.

And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either! He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming homo [comp-u-geek.net] slut [rotten.com] !

Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz. Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the homosexual [goatse.cx] perversion of corrupting the innocence of young children [slashdot.org] . To quote from the article linked:

'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her. 'I have to go to the bathroom a lot. You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while. Is that okay with you? Do you want a note from my doctor?'

Is this why you were touching your penis [rotten.com] in the cinema, Jon? And letting the other boys touch it too?

We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag.' Is there any more doubt? For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of homosexual [goatse.cx] terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (or to use the common parlance, 'piss-pipe'), then his homosexual [goatse.cx] lover blows firmly down the straw to inflate his scrotum. This is, of course, when he's not busy violating the dignity and copyright of posters to Slashdot by gathering together their postings and publishing them en masse to further his twisted and manipulative journalistic agenda.

Sick, disgusting antichristian perverts, the lot of them.

In addition, many of the Linux distributions (a 'distribution' is the most common way to spread the faggots' wares) are run by faggot groups. The Slackware [redhat.com] distro is named after the 'Slack-wear' fags wear to allow easy access to the anus for sexual purposes. Furthermore, Slackware is a close anagram of claw arse, a reference to the homosexual [goatse.cx] practice of anal fisting. The Mandrake [slackware.com] product is run by a group of French faggot satanists, and is named after the faggot nickname for the vibrator. It was also chosen because it is an anagram for dark amen and ram naked, which is what they do.

Another 'distro,' (abbrieviated as such because it sounds a bit like 'Disco,' which is where homosexuals [goatse.cx] preyed on young boys in the 1970s), is Debian, [mandrake.com] an anagram of in a bed, which could be considered innocent enough (after all, a bed is both where we sleep and pray), until we realise what other names Debian uses to describe their foul wares. 'Woody' is obvious enough, being a term for the erect male penis [rotten.com] , glistening with pre-cum. But far sicker is the phrase 'Frozen Potato' that they use. This filthy term, again found in the secret homosexual [goatse.cx] 'Sauce Code,' refers to the solo homosexual [goatse.cx] practice of defecating into a clear polythene bag, shaping the turd into a crude approximation of the male phallus, then leaving it in the freezer overnight until it becomes solid. The practitioner then proceeds to push the frozen 'potato' up his own rectum, squeezing it in and out until his tight young balls erupt in a screaming orgasm.

And Red Hat [debian.org] is secret homo [comp-u-geek.net] slang for the tip of a penis [rotten.com] that is soaked in blood from a freshly violated underage ringpiece.

The fags have even invented special tools to aid their faggotry! For example, the 'supermount' tool was devised to allow deeper penetration, which is good for fags because it gives more pressure on the prostate gland. 'Automount' is used, on the other hand, because Linux users are all fat and gay, and need to mount each other [comp-u-geek.net] automatically.

The depths of their depravity can be seen in their use of 'mount points.' These are, plainly speaking, the different points of penetration. The main one is obviously /anus, but there are others. Militant fags even say 'there is no /opt mount point' because for these dirty perverts faggotry is not optional but a way of life.

More evidence is in the fact that Linux users say how much they love `man`, even going so far as to say that all new Linux users (who are in fact just innocent heterosexuals indoctrinated by the gay propaganda) should try out `man`. In no other system do users boast of their frequent recourse to a man.

Other areas of the system also show Linux's inherit gayness. For example, people are often told of the 'FAQ,' but how many innocent heterosexual Windows [amiga.com] users know what this actually means. The answer is shocking: Faggot Anal Quest: the voyage of discovery for newly converted fags!

Even the title 'Slashdot [geekizoid.com] ' originally referred to a homosexual [goatse.cx] practice. Slashdot [kuro5hin.org] of course refers to the popular gay practice of blood-letting. The Slashbots, of course are those super-zealous homosexuals [goatse.cx] who take this perversion to its extreme by ripping open their anuses, as seen on the site most popular with Slashdot users, the depraved work of Satan, http://www.eff.org/ [eff.org] .

The editors of Slashdot [slashduh.org] also have homosexual [goatse.cx] names: 'Hemos' is obvious in itself, being one vowel away from 'Homos.' But even more sickening is 'Commander Taco' which sounds a bit like 'Commode in Taco,' filthy gay slang for a pair of spreadeagled buttocks that are caked with excrement [pboy.com] . (The best form of lubrication, they insist.) Sometimes, these 'Taco Commodes' have special 'Salsa Sauce' (blood from a ruptured rectum) and 'Cheese' (rancid flakes of penis [rotten.com] discharge) toppings. And to make it even worse, Slashdot [notslashdot.org] runs on Apache!

The Apache [microsoft.com] server, whose use among fags is as prevalent as AIDS, is named after homosexual [goatse.cx] activity -- as everyone knows, popular faggot band, the Village People, featured an Apache Indian, and it is for him that this gay program is named.

And that's not forgetting the use of patches in the Linux fag world -- patches are used to make the anus accessible for repeated anal sex even after its rupture by a session of fisting.

To summarise: Linux is gay. 'Slash -- Dot' is the graphical description of the space between a young boy's scrotum and anus. And BeOS [apple.com] is for hermaphrodites and disabled 'stumpers.'

FEEDBACK

What worries me is how much you know about what gay people do. I'm scared I actually read this whole thing. I think this post is a good example of the negative effects of Internet usage on people. This person obviously has no social life anymore and had to result to writing something as stupid as this. And actually take the time to do it too. Although... I think it was satire.. blah.. it's early. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Well, the only reason I know all about this is because I had the misfortune to read the Linux 'Sauce code' once. Although publicised as the computer code needed to get Linux up and running on a computer (and haven't you always been worried about the phrase 'Monolithic Kernel'?), this foul document is actually a detailed and graphic description of every conceivable degrading perversion known to the human race, as well as a few of the major animal species. It has shocked and disturbed me, to the point of needing to shock and disturb the common man to warn them of the impending homo [comp-u-geek.net] -calypse which threatens to engulf our planet.

You must work for the government. Trying to post the most obscene stuff in hopes that slashdot won't be able to continue or something, due to legal woes. If i ever see your ugly face, i'm going to stick my fireplace poker up your ass, after it's nice and hot, to weld shut that nasty gaping hole of yours. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Doesn't it give you a hard-on to imagine your thick strong poker ramming it's way up my most sacred of sphincters? You're beyond help, my friend, as the only thing you can imagine is the foul penetrative violation of another man. Are you sure you're not Eric Raymond? The government, being populated by limp-wristed liberals, could never stem the sickening tide of homosexual [goatse.cx] child molesting Linux advocacy. Hell, they've given NAMBLA free reign for years!

you really should post this logged in. i wish i could remember jebus's password, cuz i'd give it to you. -- mighty jebus [slashdot.org] , Slashdot

Thank you for your kind words of support. However, this document shall only ever be posted anonymously. This is because the 'Open Sauce' movement is a sham, proposing homoerotic cults of hero worshipping in the name of freedom. I speak for the common man. For any man who prefers the warm, enveloping velvet folds of a woman's vagina [bodysnatchers.co.uk] to the tight puckered ringpiece of a child. These men, being common, decent folk, don't have a say in the political hypocrisy that is Slashdot culture. I am the unknown liberator [hitler.org] .

ROLF LAMO i hate linux FAGGOTS -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

We shouldn't hate them, we should pity them for the misguided fools they are... Fanatical Linux zeal-outs need to be herded into camps for re-education and subsequent rehabilitation into normal heterosexual society. This re-education shall be achieved by forcing them to watch repeats of Baywatch until the very mention of Pamela Anderson [rotten.com] causes them to fill their pants with healthy heterosexual jism [zillabunny.com] .

Actually, that's not at all how scrotal inflation works. I understand it involves injecting sterile saline solution into the scrotum. I've never tried this, but you can read how to do it safely in case you're interested. (Before you moderate this down, ask yourself honestly -- who are the real crazies -- people who do scrotal inflation, or people who pay $1000+ for a game console?) -- double_h [slashdot.org] , Slashdot

Well, it just goes to show that even the holy Linux 'sauce code' is riddled with bugs that need fixing. (The irony of Jon Katz not even being able to inflate his scrotum correctly has not been lost on me.) The Linux pervert elite already acknowledge this, with their queer slogan: 'Given enough arms, all rectums are shallow.' And anyway, the PS2 [xbox.com] sucks major cock and isn't worth the money. Intellivision forever!

dude did u used to post on msnbc's nt bulletin board now that u are doing anti-gay posts u also need to start in with anti-black stuff too c u in church -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

For one thing, whilst Linux is a cavalcade of queer propaganda masquerading as the future of computing, NT [linux.com] is used by people who think nothing better of encasing their genitals in quick setting plaster then going to see a really dirty porno film, enjoying the restriction enforced onto them. Remember, a wasted arousal is a sin in the eyes of the Catholic church [atheism.org] . Clearly, the only god-fearing Christian operating system in existence is CP/M -- The Christian Program Monitor. All computer users should immediately ask their local pastor to install this fine OS onto their systems. It is the only route to salvation.

Secondly, this message is for every man. Computers know no colour. Not only that, but one of the finest websites in the world is maintained by a Black Man [stilproject.com] . Now fuck off you racist donkey felcher.

And don't forget that slashdot was written in Perl, which is just too close to 'Pearl Necklace' for comfort.... oh wait; that's something all you heterosexuals do.... I can't help but wonder how much faster the trolls could do First-Posts on this site if it were redone in PHP... I could hand-type dynamic HTML pages faster than Perl can do them. -- phee [slashdot.org] , Slashdot

Although there is nothing unholy about the fine heterosexual act of ejaculating between a woman's breasts, squirting one's load up towards her neck and chin area, it should be noted that Perl [python.org] (standing for Pansies Entering Rectums Locally) is also close to 'Pearl Monocle,' 'Pearl Nosering,' and the ubiquitous 'Pearl Enema.'

One scary thing about Perl [sun.com] is that it contains hidden homosexual [goatse.cx] messages. Take the following code: LWP::Simple -- It looks innocuous enough, doesn't it? But look at the line closely: There are two colons next to each other! As Larry 'Balls to the' Wall would openly admit in the Perl Documentation, Perl was designed from the ground up to indoctrinate it's programmers into performing unnatural sexual acts -- having two colons so closely together is clearly a reference to the perverse sickening act of 'colon kissing,' whereby two homosexual [goatse.cx] queers spread their buttocks wide, pressing their filthy torn sphincters together. They then share small round objects like marbles or golfballs by passing them from one rectum to another using muscle contraction alone. This is also referred to in programming 'circles' as 'Parameter Passing.'

And PHP [perl.org] stands for Perverted Homosexual Penetration. Didn't you know?

Thank you for your valuable input on this. I am sure you will be never forgotten. BTW: Did I mention that this could be useful in terraforming Mars? Mars rulaa. -- Eimernase [slashdot.org] , Slashdot

Well, I don't know about terraforming Mars, but I do know that homosexual [goatse.cx] Linux Advocates have been probing Uranus for years.

That's inspiring. Keep up the good work, AC. May God in his wisdom grant you the strength to bring the plain honest truth to this community, and make it pure again. Yours, Cerberus. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

*sniff* That brings a tear to my eye. Thank you once more for your kind support. I have taken faith in the knowledge that I am doing the Good Lord [atheism.org] 's work, but it is encouraging to know that I am helping out the common man here.

However, I should be cautious about revealing your name 'Cerberus' on such a filthy den of depravity as Slashdot. It is a well known fact that the 'Kerberos' documentation from Microsoft is a detailed manual describing, in intimate, exacting detail, how to sexually penetrate a variety of unwilling canine animals; be they domesticated, wild, or mythical. Slashdot posters have taken great pleasure in illegally spreading this documentation far and wide, treating it as an 'extension' to the Linux 'Sauce Code,' for the sake of 'interoperability.' (The slang term they use for nonconsensual intercourse -- their favourite kind.)

In fact, sick twisted Linux deviants are known to have LAN parties, (Love of Anal Naughtiness, needless to say.), wherein they entice a stray dog, known as the 'Samba Mount,' into their homes. Up to four of these filth-sodden blasphemers against nature take turns to plunge their erect, throbbing, uncircumcised members, conkers-deep, into the rectum, mouth, and other fleshy orifices of the poor animal. Eventually, the 'Samba Mount' collapses due to 'overload,' and needs to be 'rebooted.' (i.e., kicked out into the street, and left to fend for itself.) Many Linux users boast about their 'uptime' in such situations.

Inspiring stuff! If only all trolls were this quality! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

If only indeed. You can help our brave cause by moderating this message up as often as possible. I recommend '+1, Underrated,' as that will protect your precious Karma in Metamoderation [slashdot.org] . Only then can we break through the glass ceiling of Homosexual Slashdot Culture. Is it any wonder that the new version of Slashcode has been christened 'Bender'???

If we can get just one of these postings up to at least '+1,' then it will be archived forever! Others will learn of our struggle, and join with us in our battle for freedom!

It's pathetic you've spent so much time writing this. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I am compelled to document the foulness and carnal depravity [catholic.net] that is Linux, in order that we may prepare ourselves for the great holy war that is to follow. It is my solemn duty to peel back the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wire brush of enlightenment.

As with any great open-source project, you need someone asking this question, so I'll do it. When the hell is version 2.0 going to be ready?!?! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I could make an arrogant, childish comment along the lines of 'Every time someone asks for 2.0, I won't release it for another 24 hours,' but the truth of the matter is that I'm quite nervous of releasing a 'number two,' as I can guarantee some filthy shit-slurping Linux pervert would want to suck it straight out of my anus before I've even had chance to wipe.

I desperately want to suck your monolithic kernel, you sexy hunk, you. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I sincerely hope you're Natalie Portman [geocities.com] .

Dude, nothing on slashdot larger than 3 paragraphs is worth reading. Try to distill the message, whatever it was, and maybe I'll read it. As it is, I have to much open source software to write to waste even 10 seconds of precious time. 10 seconds is all its gonna take M$ to whoop Linux's ass. Vigilence is the price of Free (as in libre -- from the fine, frou frou French language) Software. Hack on fellow geeks, and remember: Friday is Bouillabaisse day except for heathens who do not believe that Jesus died for their sins. Those godless, oil drench, bearded sexist clowns can pull grits from their pantaloons (another fine, fine French word) and eat that. Anyway, try to keep your message focused and concise. For concision is the soul of derision. Way. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

What the fuck?

I've read your gay conspiracy post version 1.3.0 and I must say I'm impressed. In particular, I appreciate how you have managed to squeeze in a healthy dose of the latent homosexuality you gay-bashing homos [comp-u-geek.net] tend to be full of. Thank you again. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Well bugger me!

ooooh honey. how insecure are you!!! wann a little massage from deare bruci. love you -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Fuck right off!

IMPORTANT: This message needs to be heard (Not HURD [linux.org] , which is an acronym for 'Huge Unclean Rectal Dilator') across the whole community, so it has been released into the Public Domain [icopyright.com] . You know, that licence that we all had before those homoerotic crypto-fascists came out with the GPL [apple.com] (Gay Penetration License) that is no more than an excuse to see who's got the biggest feces-encrusted [rotten.com] cock. I would have put this up on Freshmeat [adultmember.com] , but that name is known to be a euphemism for the tight rump of a young boy.

Come to think of it, the whole concept of 'Source Control' unnerves me, because it sounds a bit like 'Sauce Control,' which is a description of the homosexual [goatse.cx] practice of holding the base of the cock shaft tightly upon the point of ejaculation, thus causing a build up of semenal fluid that is only released upon entry into an incision made into the base of the receiver's scrotum. And 'Open Sauce' is the act of ejaculating into another mans face or perhaps a biscuit to be shared later. Obviously, 'Closed Sauce' is the only Christian thing to do, as evidenced by the fact that it is what Cathedrals are all about.

Contributors: (although not to the eternal game of 'soggy biscuit' that open 'sauce' development has become) Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, phee, Anonymous Coward, mighty jebus, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, double_h, Anonymous Coward, Eimernase, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward. Further contributions are welcome.

Current changes: This version sent to FreeWIPO [5u.com] by 'Bring BackATV' as plain text. Reformatted everything, added all links back in (that we could match from the previous version), many new ones (Slashbot bait links). Even more spelling fixed. Who wrote this thing, CmdrTaco himself?

Previous changes: Yet more changes added. Spelling fixed. Feedback added. Explanation of 'distro' system. 'Mount Point' syntax described. More filth regarding `man` and Slashdot. Yet more fucking spelling fixed. 'Fetchmail' uncovered further. More Slashbot baiting. Apache exposed. Distribution licence at foot of document.

ANUX -- A full Linux distribution... Up your ass!

More disguting practices revealed! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473344)

here [lwn.net] ! Find out about disgusting pedophilic-sadistic practices!

Re:Software "Open Anus" (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473383)


Thank you for that. You've brought a tear to my eye, and a fire to my loins.

I have so many new ideas to try out tonight with the guys!

first? (-1, Offtopic)

Ender Ryan (79406) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473310)

Wow, first!

Mod me down, need to unload some of this karma...

Re:first? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473334)

wow, like microsoft you're first :), but not at all the best.

You know I've been thinking about this very subject in these terms ever since IBM announced its $1 billlllion dollar investment in linux. Open monopoly, yup, linux everywhere, yup. Free, accessible, reliable, open infrastructure. Probably. Consumer better off. Absolutely.

Re:first? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473335)

you wrre modded up to 2..then down to 1 and they added an offtopic, yet replys with content still sit at 0...these moderators suck hard.

that's gonna stop MS? (1)

Alcimedes (398213) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473317)

ha ha ha, they'll just release a special "limited" version of open source stuff you're running, that makes it more "compatible" with MS's services. next thing you know your machine isn't your own, and that Linux partition you had has magically disappeared. guess that's a feature.

Re:that's gonna stop MS? (1)

tercero (529131) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473388)

I agree. The great thing about M$'s Embrace and Extend philosophy is that is can work on everything.

OTOH, this Open monopoly could be bad for John Q Consumer-Nondeveloper. A developer could code a program that's great. JQC-N needs one more feature. Now they have to hire Jane P. Developer to make it for him. There are goods and bads to both. Since, I'm a tech, I support an Open Monopoly but I don't think it can squash M$ anytime soon.

But but but... (4, Funny)

Bob McCown (8411) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473319)

We already have open monopoly [freshmeat.net] !

what is wrong with..... (2)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473323)

an open monopoly? I haer people saying that "it is just as bad to have an open source monopoly as it is for MS to have on".
I never under stood this reasoning because if it is an OSS monopoly, would that not mean that the people are in total control?

Re:what is wrong with..... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473375)

It only takes one unscrupulous person to wrest total control away from proletariat.

Stalin... Stallman? A little too close for comfort!

silliness (1)

dachshund (300733) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473434)

It only takes one unscrupulous person to wrest total control away from proletariat. Stalin... Stallman? A little too close for comfort!

Sure. And then what'll that unscrupulous person do... force coders to contribute? Retroactively invalidate the GPL so individuals no longer have the resources to build their own apps?

Re:silliness (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473460)

I'm sure that's what the farmers and factory workers of Communist Russia said before the zealots came in and took all their wares without any recompense.

And if you're sincerely interested in that last question, yes, Stallman has built into the GPL a clause that asserts that software covered under the standard GPL will necessarily be covered under future, more restrictive, GPL versions.

Re:silliness (2)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473546)

so the creator of the software just needs to relicense it. Licensing under the GPL does not mean you are giving it to stallman, you are letting others play with it while you retain ownership.

Re:silliness (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473615)

You are encouraged [fsf.org] to give up your rights when starting up a "Free" project in order to allow the FSF enough rights to provide protection from would-be code thieves.

Granted, much of the GPL'd software that exists is not turned over blindly to the FSF, but for the projects that are (a great many useful projects are under that banner), the rights to code that are dependent on the whim of Stallman.

Re:silliness (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473478)

Obviously it was far more stealthy and underhanded with Stalin in Soviet Russia. It will be the same here in the software sphere.

All that's needed are a few key developers to have their hooks, or rather their IP rights, in the code. It's no coincidence that the FSF urges people releasing software under the GPL to reassign ownership of the copyright to the FSF.

I would have argued against this idea twenty years ago but we've all see how a quiet conspiracy of leftist intellectuals have been able to wrest a lot of control away from traditionally neutral intellectuals in academia. Old time 'New Left' types like Stallman, I might add.

Re:what is wrong with..... (5, Insightful)

krlynch (158571) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473415)

if it is an OSS monopoly, would that not mean that the people are in total control?

If I understand what you imply by "the people", the the answer is "no". Just take a look at most (NOT ALL!!!!!) OSS projects today: while there are some notable exceptions, the developers are not interested in making "better software for the people", but "better software for themselves". I am not making a negative value judgement here; there is nothing wrong with this attitude! If you are going to write software for free in your own time, I EXPECT that you will write the software you want, with the features you want, and document it however you want, even if those things don't advance the needs of the larger user base.

But this model doesn't put "the people" in control any more than a closed source model does! In fact, while it might make the monopoly a little more transparent, it completely removes all incentive to be responsive to the "needs" of the "users" (i.e., those users who are not also active developers); in this sense, an OSS monopoly may actually be WORSE for the "the people" than a closed source monopoly is. The closed source monopoly at least has to worry about pleasing government regulators and large volume customers; OSS projects don't even have those hurdles to overcome.

Re:what is wrong with..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473449)

Yea, just look at Microsoft. They always abide to government regulations and listen to what their customers say. By selling well made software.

Re:what is wrong with..... (2)

mcfiddish (35360) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473532)


But this model doesn't put "the people" in control any more than a closed source model does!


Sure it does! If the "people" want a feature that isn't in the OSS, they can code it up themselves, or hire someone else to do it. Try that with closed source.

technocracy? (1)

3am (314579) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473592)

don't have strong feelings either way, but don't you mean that the people who can code are in total control?

not everyone has the neurological horsepower to code certain things.

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Clint Trollwood (528787) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473339)





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I am the very model of a modern Major-General, I've information vegetable, animal, and mineral, I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical, From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical; I'm very well acquainted too with matters mathematical, I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical, About binomial theorem I'm teeming with a lot o' news--- With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.
I'm very good at integral and differential calculus, I know the scientific names of beings animalculous; In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral, I am the very model of a modern Major-General.
I know our mythic history, King Arthur's and Sir Caradoc's, I answer hard acrostics, I've a pretty taste for paradox, I quote in elegiacs all the crimes of Heliogabalus, In conics I can floor peculiarities parablous. I can tell undoubted Raphaels from Gerard Dows and Zoffanies, I know the croaking chorus from the Frogs of Aristophanes, Then I can hum a fugue of which I've heard the music's din afore, And whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore.
Then I can write a washing bill in Balylonic cuneiform, And tell you every detail of Caractacus's uniform; In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral, I am the very model of a modern Major-General.
In fact, when I know what is meant by "mamelon" and "ravelin", When I can tell at sight a chassepôt rifle from a javelin, When such affairs as sorties and surprises I'm more wary at, And when I know precisely what is meant by "commissariat", When I have learnt what progress has been made in modern gunnery, When I know more of tactics than a novice in a nunnery: In short, when I've a smattering of elemental strategy, You'll say a better Major-General has never sat a gee---
For my military knowledge, though I'm plucky and adventury, Has only been brought down to the beginning of the century; But still in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral, I am the very model of a modern Major-General.

Re:asdfasdfasdf (-1)

Clint Trollwood (528787) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473359)





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I am the very model of a modern Major-General, I've information vegetable, animal, and mineral, I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical, From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical; I'm very well acquainted too with matters mathematical, I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical, About binomial theorem I'm teeming with a lot o' news--- With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.
I'm very good at integral and differential calculus, I know the scientific names of beings animalculous; In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral, I am the very model of a modern Major-General.
I know our mythic history, King Arthur's and Sir Caradoc's, I answer hard acrostics, I've a pretty taste for paradox, I quote in elegiacs all the crimes of Heliogabalus, In conics I can floor peculiarities parablous. I can tell undoubted Raphaels from Gerard Dows and Zoffanies, I know the croaking chorus from the Frogs of Aristophanes, Then I can hum a fugue of which I've heard the music's din afore, And whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore.
Then I can write a washing bill in Balylonic cuneiform, And tell you every detail of Caractacus's uniform; In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral, I am the very model of a modern Major-General.
In fact, when I know what is meant by "mamelon" and "ravelin", When I can tell at sight a chassepôt rifle from a javelin, When such affairs as sorties and surprises I'm more wary at, And when I know precisely what is meant by "commissariat", When I have learnt what progress has been made in modern gunnery, When I know more of tactics than a novice in a nunnery: In short, when I've a smattering of elemental strategy, You'll say a better Major-General has never sat a gee---
For my military knowledge, though I'm plucky and adventury, Has only been brought down to the beginning of the century; But still in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral, I am the very model of a modern Major-General.

Re:asdfasdfasdf (-1)

Clint Trollwood (528787) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473394)





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I am the very model of a modern Major-General, I've information vegetable, animal, and mineral, I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical, From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical; I'm very well acquainted too with matters mathematical, I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical, About binomial theorem I'm teeming with a lot o' news--- With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.
I'm very good at integral and differential calculus, I know the scientific names of beings animalculous hahahehehoho TACO; In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral, I am the very model of a modern Major-General.
I know our mythic history, King Arthur's and Sir Caradoc's, I answer hard acrostics, I've a pretty taste for paradox, I quote in elegiacs all the crimes of Heliogabalus, In conics I can floor peculiarities parablous. I can tell undoubted Raphaels from Gerard Dows and Zoffanies, I know the croaking chorus from the Frogs of Aristophanes, Then I can hum a fugue of which I've heard the music's din afore, And whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore.
Then I can write a washing bill in Balylonic cuneiform, And tell you every detail of Caractacus's uniform; In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral, I am the very model of a modern Major-General.
In fact, when I know what is meant by "mamelon" and "ravelin", When I can tell at sight a chassepôt rifle from a javelin, When such affairs as sorties and surprises I'm more wary at, And when I know precisely what is meant by "commissariat", When I have learnt what progress has been made in modern gunnery, When I know more of tactics than a novice in a nunnery: In short, when I've a smattering of elemental strategy, You'll say a better Major-General has never sat a gee---
For my military knowledge, though I'm plucky and adventury, Has only been brought down to the beginning of the century; But still in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral, I am the very model of a modern Major-General.

John Q Ignoramus (2, Insightful)

DeadPrez (129998) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473342)

...but I think that even if John Q Public knows nothing about open source, if the services he uses are running open source, it doesn't matter.

And the inverse works just the same (John Q Public would be perfectly happy with closed source services). This is a battle that won't be won at the consumer level.

Re:John Q Ignoramus (1)

albalbo (33890) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473374)

If the services are Free Software (as opposed to open source), then of course the consumer has a choice: although you may have to pay to receive services, there is nothing stopping a competitor setting up a competitive service, and you can't lock each other out - you have to compete on something other than a monopoly market position.

It's a no-brainer - surely even Hemos understands it??

Re:John Q Ignoramus (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473389)

Yep. They will have to compete on price. When the price drops to zero, both companies will go out of business leaving customers in the lurch.

Always go with the vendor that asks for money. Always.

Business for the established (2, Insightful)

Hrothgar The Great (36761) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473349)

Jim Allchin, the company's Windows operating-system chief, was quoted by Bloomberg News earlier this year as saying: "Open source is an intellectual-property destroyer. I can't imagine something that could be worse than this for the software business and the intellectual-property business." He added, "I'm an American, I believe in the American Way. I worry if the government encourages open source, and I don't think we've done enough education of policy-makers to understand the threat."

Translation: I support a laissez-faire business model. For me. But please shut down our competitors.

"Services" won't save MS (2, Interesting)

Rev.LoveJoy (136856) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473350)

I agree with this article's submitter that open source OS / servers are not going to kill MS.

I believe that the article's point about today's corporate open source usage vs. that three years agos says just as much about the corporate world being pissed off with Microsoft's licensing practices as it does about the improving quality of open source products.

I'm an IT buyer, I budget and spend dollars on an annual basis. It doesn't take a big whack from the clue stick to realize that MS is trying to AOL-ize their revenue stream.

Cheers,
- RLJ

Re:"Services" won't save MS (2)

cavemanf16 (303184) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473621)

I'm an IT buyer, I budget and spend dollars on an annual basis. It doesn't take a big whack from the clue stick to realize that MS is trying to AOL-ize their revenue stream.

Also, remember that it didn't take a big "clue stick" for businesses to figure out how innovative and powerful the internet was for streamlining and saving money for their business. And they had no clue what this new-fangled 'internet' thing was 10 years ago. Open-Source probably won't create any new-new economy, but it won't take long for some cheesehead purchasing manager of IT dept's at any Fortune500 company to figure out that software that is free and does exactly the same thing as the pricey, licensed software of MS, Oracle, etc is a much better investment for their business.

.Net will only work if it's tied to windows (1)

gmack (197796) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473351)

The only way it will work is if they can constantly do things like "request" that you sign up for a passport account or use their current dominance to make themselves look like the only option.

Without windows .Net loses.

Now whether an "open monopoly" will happen soon enough to stop it is a totally diffrent question.

"!" (-1, Offtopic)

Rorschach1 (174480) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473354)

It "really" annoys me when "people" use "quotation marks" "too much" and in "inappropriate" places.

Re:"!" (0, Offtopic)

Rorschach1 (174480) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473392)

Woo hoo! My first negative moderation! And in only 30 seconds! This trolling stuff is much better for instant gratification than posting thoughtful or informative comments. I can see why it's so popular on /.!

I know I'm going to get moded down for this but... (-1)

Clint Trollwood (528787) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473445)

haha no shit, eh?

Re:"!" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473407)

I, OTOH, try, as much as possible, at least, to pepper my posts, brief as they may be, with commas and unnecessary phrases, like this one, so that my full idea can be conveyed, however inane it may actually be.

Everyone is wrong. (4, Insightful)

supabeast! (84658) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473357)

No one will correctly predict where things are going. Computers and the devices that run them are too varied and change too quickly. No one ever expected Microsoft to go anywhere early on. Microsoft never expected the internet to go anywhere, which is why they are still having a hard time getting their shit together. Eventually, something strange and surprising will come out of the kludge that is screwball desktop OSs and people trying to connect everything in the universe to the net, and it will change everything. Such is that nature of the chaotic beast that is the transistor.

Re:Everyone is wrong. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473496)

Before too much longer the Internet will break up anyway. It's already composed of a few largish ISPs glued together by a shaky infrastructure based on an obsolete and unworkable 'consensus' model of management. As the smaller ISPs are driven out of the market day by day, things are changing. It won't be too long before AOL, MSN, Earthlink, and a few other operators own the 'net.

I'm not bemoaning that future, by the way. It's just how things work.

Re:Everyone is wrong. (2)

taniwha (70410) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473550)

actually my connectivity options seem to have been reduced to "the phone company" ("we don't support Linux - I don't care if your DSL is broken if you have Linux on it we wont fix it") and "the cable company" ("don't even think about putting your personal server on it").



I'm starting to miss the heady days when anyone could start an ISP in their garage and they attracted customers by actually responding to their needs, not some lowest common denominator.



Oh well, I bet next month I'll get that "you'll have to sign up with MSN if you want to send outgoing mail" message from PacBell just like the Qwest people have gotten ....

Everyone an ISP (1)

richieb (3277) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473561)

Actually, another future that I see is that everyone will run their own servers. Why should I host my web site somewhere, where it can run off a computer in my basement.

The web has been "corporatized", so there is little room for little guys. But other things are coming. For example, in all P2P networks (Gnutella, Freenet) it's your machine that is the server - you just need a pipe and an address.

As people think of more apps that are networked, but not web based, the current web will become less relevant. We just need to be able to connect to each other.

...richie

Re:Everyone is wrong. (5, Insightful)

srvivn21 (410280) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473542)

Your headline, and the gist of your statement is correct, everyone (likely) is wrong. But your focus is too narrow. This chaos is not limited to the effect of the transistor.

Look back a couple hundred years to the days where cargo was shipped via sailing vessels. Then one day someone (James Watt?) designs an efficient steam engine. Someone else (Robert Fulton) figured out a way to effectively drive a ship using a steam engine. Most of the shipping companies (my great great grandfather 's company included) could not foresee the impact and benefits or this technology. As a result, his son (my great grandfather) basically put him out of business by taking advantage of the benefits of steam powered ships.

The electric motor is another good example. When they were first exhibited, they were unreliable, and room filling (remind anyone of another tech that we know and love?). Today, electric motors are effectively invisible.

History continues to show us that innovative people will realize unorthodox uses for gadgets that many think will never have a purpose. And those unorthodox uses will (overall) make our lives easier, and more pleasant to live.

Re:Everyone is wrong. (1)

gimpboy (34912) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473618)

Eventually, something strange and surprising will come out of the kludge that is screwball desktop OSs and people trying to connect everything in the universe to the net, and it will change everything. Such is that nature of the chaotic beast that is the transistor.

some would argue that open source software and linux (though not exclusively) is this scewball.

Microsoft Knows It (1)

CrunchyMunchy (23178) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473363)

As we read articles like the recently published and still steaming wired article predicting the death of Linux as a desktop OS and the futility of fighting Microsoft, I wonder... If Linux and its ilk are no threat to MS, then why are they running so scared?

Regardless of whether Joe Sixpack understands how to install an OS (which he shouldn't have to), eventually it won't matter. MS has repeatedly shown that despite all their resources, they can't produce anything but crap, and in the long run they will fail.

Can you imagine... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473364)

... a Beowulf cluster of these?

Thank you.

--Patrick Bateman, Esq.

Enough already. (1, Troll)

dave-fu (86011) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473371)

Yes, open source as a hobbyist development model can and will persist long into the future, and I'm sure that there will be fun and exciting products as a result of it.
That said, now that the heady, greedy days of the dot com boom are long behind us, it's high time to re-evaluate the position. Money isn't growing on trees and being plucked from the asses of VCs star-struck by that beautiful three-letter phrase (IPO, IPO, IPO!) so much that they can overlook that little thing called "a business plan."
Internet advertising is the redheaded stepchild of the marketing family. Old media ads have no need to justify themselves with inanities like "click-through"; they know their demographic and their real estate is mindshare, that precious commodity which they assume that they're purchasing with their ad dollars, regardless of whether or not this purchase translates into a product purchase immediately or down the road. The internet is a fickle bastard: people gravitate towards the warez model of "buy none, get one free" and so there's the propensity towards stealing everything we can. To wit: the inevitable linking to archives.nytimes.com anytime they've got an article up because registration is such a chore, but if you were to ask the average Slashdotter how they feel about someone using "their" resources without registration (think Anonymous Cowards here), one would instead getsthe impression that merely providing a name and e-mail address is as simple as could be. Hmm. To wit: proxies, ad-killing bots and specialized hosts files that insure that our precious bandwidth isn't eaten up by ancillary ads that might keep the sites afloat, but then again if we don't click on them and buy something might not even if we do see them. Hmm.
Ah, open source. Communism reborn, and who can hate that? Not the watered down Leninism that the Soviet Union ran through in short order, but honest-to-goodness communism. Take what you need, give what you have. Beautiful. A touching sentiment.
Also impossible to be a commercially viable entity when human nature comes into play. If we can get our content ad-free we will, even though it means economic hardship and possibly the closing of the sites we visit and love (or love to hate, as the case may be) and if we can get our software cost-free, without the dirty stigma of clicking through porno banners to find the 3rd word of the 4th paragraph to get entry to L33t b0b'5 h0u53 0f w4r3z, all the better. I whip up a weekend project that is derivative but I'm proud of and off to Freshmeat with you! Maybe even Sourceforge! Take it! Share it!
I'll pour a few hundred hours of blood, sweat and tears into it! Shiny new! Everyone wants it! It's hot!
But how do I parlay it into a commercial venture when everyone can get it for free and fix it up as they want? Hmm.
Open source is a lovely idea with lofty goals, and as long as talented, motivated, intelligent programmers buy into it, it will generate impressive results. Unfortunately, there's a very finite number of talented, motivated, intelligent, ascetic programmers out there who will buy into it.
OSDN's changing business strategies faster than you can say "we're a B2B play now!" (read: brushed up that resume yet?). If bigger ads or a subscription service to a website who doesn't give a whit about the quality of its journalism and doesn't know the meaning of the word "editing", relying on constantly inflammatory agitprop to woo its readership are the order of the day, then I'll just stick with Ars Technica, The Register and memepool (topical, informative, and normally journalistically objective sites), thanks. Slashdot's been a fun little ride, and like many other things, peer moderation was a sexy little idea, just unfortunate in that it pretty much disintegrated into ugly mob rule groupthink. Scene, not herd.

Re:Enough already - yeah really (1)

taniwha (70410) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473465)

didn't you post exactly this same text yesterday in another thread - someone please mod this 'redundant'

**DEFINITELY REDUNDANT, MOD DOWN!!** (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473534)

Yes, (s)he posted it here [slashdot.org] and here [slashdot.org] and here [slashdot.org] .

Nice creativity, beeeeyatch!

Re:Enough already - yeah really (1)

Evangelion (2145) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473541)


Heh, I was right [slashdot.org] -- he did type it up randomly then. Cool.

Open Service? (1)

Menander(the poet) (513219) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473517)

You think open source is communist? MS new "AOL-ized" approach is geared towards providing services for the desktop user. Additionally .NET will make it possible to integrate MS-affialited "software services" into one's own software, and most MS software itself will be accompanied by a time-limited licensing agreement. If they truely lead the software inustry into this new paradigm, what will open source's answer likely be? I say, open services. Consider things like SETI@home and the Gnutella network. There is no reason, especially if Mono and .GNU are a success, that the opne source community can not only provide a free (as in both "beer", and "speech") counterpart to MS software, just as they are now. The two things keeping desktop users away from Linux (an other OSS platforms) are technical barriers to entry (learning curve) and lack of killer apps (or at least the ones present on Windows). OSS is perfectly capable of providing services. Imagine if everyone was able to run their favorite open source apps, but was able to run them remotely on some other computer on the internet, for free, and automatically (the entire internet a cluster, anyone). This amounts to the same low cost solution in the emerging service inustry that user today enjoy in software by using open source.

take that MS,
menander

Re:Enough already. (2, Insightful)

Evangelion (2145) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473524)


Did you just type this up randomly, expecting to get moderated up just for rebellously bashing slashdot, with a bit of "get real" attitude added to it?

The article wasn't brilliant, but it brought up one point, and then took an acid-induced trip out into left field at the end.

It was basically saying that OSS products will gradually eclipse propriatery solutions, because there are too many problems and costs associated with properiatary software nowadays. Not just monetary costs, but also costs for downtime, costs for cleaning up after a worm takes out your office network for 2 days, and (potentially) reduced hardware costs.

OSS doesn't have licencing costs (which are a huge factor and headache for smaller companies), and are (generally) more reliable with respect to issues such as viruses, worms and trojans.

It's actually fairly ironic -- just as OSS software is trying to figure out how to make themselves profitable, MS is right alongside them scrambling to find new revenue streams for thier flagship products, because they're not as relatively profitable as they used to be.

The problem with the article (which any english teacher would tell you -- wait, these are web writers, they probably failed english class) is that it suddenly decided to go off into left field at the end talking about how companies that provide OSS can be profitable, which has really nothing to do with it's first point -- in that the gradual increase in the use of OSS is inevitable.

Re:Enough already. (1, Offtopic)

re-geeked (113937) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473528)

Slashdot's been a fun little ride, and like many other things, peer moderation was a sexy little idea, just unfortunate in that it pretty much disintegrated into ugly mob rule groupthink.

With the unfortunate result of favorable moderation for crap like this.

Re:Enough already. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473529)

Wow, dude, that's a troll and a half. You obviously spent a great deal of time on that. I commend you for your obvious commitment and attention to trolling detail.

Cool! (2)

glebite (206150) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473381)

A truly Open Source version of Monopoly would be neatoh to play. I mean - I've played the ASCII versions, the BBS versions, some version for Windows, but one for my Linux box would be fun to play...

Oh wait - you're not talking about the game are you?

ROTFLMFAO (-1)

Clint Trollwood (528787) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473477)

You're funny!

No really, you are.

Re:ROTFLMFAO (-1)

DivineOb (256115) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473508)

I think you and me should move in together, get a few machines, and troll all day on welfare...

Monopoly for Linux (1)

Per Wigren (5315) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473571)

Linux monopoly #1: gtkmonop [sourceforge.net]

Linux monopoly #2: KMonop [capsi.com]


There you go! :)

Damn revolutionaries. (2)

perdida (251676) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473385)

Think of it this way. What happens when a software project is more maintainable, more self-managing? When geography is less important? When companies need fewer buildings, less energy and have more choice in the labor market? What would happen if all software projects were built on more robust, maintainable architectures? Those sound a lot like things that lead to cost savings.

This is just like open source politics/economics (socialism).

I really like socialism and spread the virus wherever I go, since I think bottom-up control of stuff by the people who design things is a good idea.

Unfortunately, for a world socialist society, its proponents would have to wage a war against the entrenched interests of capitalism.

A very chaotic, damaging, bloody war.

Similarly, the Open Source Monopoly would enforce rigorous peer review on all software while encouraging long-term profitability trends. It's a damn good idea!

The problem with the idea isn't the IDEA, it's the fact that large corporations think on the short term and don't want to risk losing the "asset" they think they have built up with their closed source technologies.

They don't care about the long term future of the software industry, they care about the need to compete with voracious rivals in THIS economy!

Open Sourcers, they won't listen to your reason, your arguments, or your technology benchmarks.

They will cast a chill over your free speech and beer with intellectually unsupportable, unconstitutional laws because they can. Despite the irrationality of their actions. They'll do it every time.

Re:Damn revolutionaries. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473425)

Nice troll. Care to explain how Open Source monopolies will encourage "long-term profitability trends"?

Open Source is not revolutionary enough (2)

euroderf (47) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473386)

I think the Open Source model is not revolutionary enough to prevent the problems of proprietry ownership of code and domination by multinationals such as MS.

The reason for this is that capitalism is capitalism, and although some take the Fabien position that it can be reformed to cater for the needs of the majority, it seems pretty clear to me that only a radical overthrow of the entire system can improve our lot and stop the evils.

What does this mean in an Open Source context? Well, there is nothing in the OSS liscence preventing corporate PLC's from using software code. It merely addresses the symptoms, and not the cause. A more restrictive liscence for the people denying access to selfish concerns would be a great boost and a bigger threat to MS than anything.

At present there is nothing stopping MS from using OSS software and still dominating, despite the left reformist nature of OSS. Frankly, a new liscence is needed if we really want to see the back of such companies and corporate practises for all time.

I don't like the term "monopoly"... (1)

Dead Penis Bird (524912) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473391)

...when describing this phenomenon. A true monopoly is one entity controlling the selling and distribution of goods or services. Not to mention all the negative connotations with it as well.

This open-source "monopoly" is more like a free market system than anything else, where many entities create, distribute and control the flow. The barriers to entry are eliminated or reduced.

Open Monopoly... (1)

CmdrPaco (531189) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473399)

...is a bit of a misnomer. If OSS starts to have a big market share, or even all of the market, it will still not be a monopoly. No single company will have the sole 'power' over OSS, for example, think of Linux vs. BSD vs. AtheOS etc. Don't forget Redhat vs. Caldera etc. Definition (stolen from dictionary.com): Exclusive control by one group of the means of producing or selling a commodity or service: "Monopoly frequently... arises from government support or from collusive agreements among individuals"

GAME OVER (way offtopic) (0, Offtopic)

hoggoth (414195) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473401)

/.: GAME OVER!

That's it, I won. I got 50 karma points in my obsessive little hunt.

Now I'm goint to join a 12 step program [ozjokes.com] to try and regain my life. No More Slashdot! The Ctrl and R keys on my keyboard show visible wear [hooleon.com] from reloading Slashdot for new things to read.

Go ahead and mod this down. That's like getting 'EXTENDED PLAY' time! I get to go after some more points!

/.: WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLAY AGAIN? [uni-duesseldorf.de]

Re:GAME OVER (way offtopic) (-1)

DivineOb (256115) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473491)

Once I had a railroad
made it run
made it race against time
Once I had a railroad
now it's done
Buddy, can you spare a dime?

Que sera, sera -- Doris Day (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473403)

Predictions are a tricky business. We should all think about Doris Day [dorisday.com] and here famous song "Que, sera, sera". What will be will be.

Will there ever be an "Open Monopoly"? Does it really matter. Discussing it may be fun for some, but does it really affect the outcome? We think of that famous song "Que, sera, sera", and we know not to worry about such things. The future is clothed in mystery, and it is foolish to suggest that we can predict an "Open Monopoly" at this point in time. Who could have predicted the other news events of this year? Not I. Not You.

What will be, will be.

Open Services (1)

Renraku (518261) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473420)

Microsoft has a long history of milking people of their money because they can charge almost whatever they want. Be thankful other OSes exist besides MS ones. Imagine what they'll do with services. At least many more people are in the services area of business, or you'd have "$8,000 a month and an upgrade plan for webmail" type services. And, of course, they'll have the right to do anything they want with what you send through the system...thats Microsoft for ya.

One Problem: how to disloge the giant (2)

RNG (35225) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473423)

While I think the authors have a point in the sense that gradual migration to an OSS codebase is something that will happen, there's a few points we should not overlook:
  • MSFT has 25+ Billion in cash. This means that for the foreseeable future they can:
    • place strategic bets by investing in whatever they think will be the next big thing. Witness their investments in the cable providers. Not all their bets have to work out ...
    • bribe their way into the enterprise. As long as the average IT manager is fed the 'research' reports (in part) paid for by MSFT, Windows will be very hard to disloge
    • MSFT may still succeed in buying laws which make it difficult for OSS to compete. Witness DMCA, which together with patents may well make certain technologies out-of-reach for OSS implementations. Unforunately, recent history in theis area is not very encouraging ...
    • money talks, even in court. It's still rather difficult to buy a brand-name PC without windows preinstalled. MSFT has enough clout to force vendors to comply and buy it's way out of any dangerous lawsuits it may come to face.

  • Hailstorm (if it ever works out) might give MSFT a far more insidious monopoly: the information monopoly
  • The MSFT monopoly (at this) point is not based on Windows anymore (think about it; Windows (as an OS) would be easy to replace) but on application lock-in with the ever changing Office file formats.


I think technically (and from a usability point of view) linux is pretty much there but it will take (lots of) time for it to permeate the non-geek computing circles. It took MSFT 25 years to get where they are today; it will take quite some time for them to loose their position of influence.


The biggest irony may well be that by the time linux became competitive on the desktop (ie: the last 12-18 months), MSFT was (for the first time) able to respond with a product which didn't suck (Win2K).


However, MSFT may still shoot itself in the foot by being too overbearing (restrictive licencing, 'forced' upgrades, cumbersome product activation, etc). If they squeeze to hard, people will look much harder at any alternatives out there. I for one think this is the biggest danger they face ...

Re:One Problem: how to disloge the giant (1)

peril (11405) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473547)

Windows 2000 still sucks! Did the quicklaunch bar make it that much better?

Ugh (-1, Troll)

sllort (442574) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473424)

I can't disprove the argument, but I don't like it. The first tenet (with which I agree the least) is that the software market's natural "stable state" is a state with one OS:

These companies spend a lot of money on market analysis, and they understand that, in the end, there will be a monopoly again. The one-winner principle still applies.

So they're hoping to replace Microsoft with "open source" - though they mean by that an open source operating system that is ruled by industrial comittee:

This will be a different kind of monopoly--an "open monopoly"--from which no vendor can be excluded from participating, including the big companies

This sure sounds a lot like the industrial comittee process that got us the "7 layer network model" and the SSSCA.

At the same time, anything would be better than Microsoft, so have at it.

Joe Sixpack knows 'Free' from 'Pay'... (2)

Bonker (243350) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473427)

This is something that I think that the OSS movement underemphasizes due to the socialist image that is so feared in the software industry.

OSS is a very socialist movement. That's not necessarily a bad thing. It's been made into a bad thing by decades of 'red scare' propoganda and negative indoctrination by the companies who stand to be hurt by a less capitalist system of software development.

Software companies, like all companies, beleive as if they have a right to exist and profit. There would be no such thing as 'intellectual property' if they didn't. They've been telling everybody else this same thing for so long that it's become 'unamerican' to try to deny a company its profit. Thus, when a mode of business has become obsoleted (Are you listening, music distributors?), that company starts engaging in negative propoganda to try to preserve their business model. Thus Disney's anti-napster cartoon and things like the 'Virus' speech from MS.

Companies do not have the right to exist and profit. The existance of a company should never be protected from consumer pressure.

In this case, it is the pressure to use free software. Here, I am referring to the cost, and not the ideology. Microsoft puts enormous pressure on businesses to use IIS, despite the fact that Apache is better, more stable, and costs 100% less. The same is true for all the Java servlet engines. Jakarta is the best, despite a wealth of options. The same will probably be true of Mono over .Net in the way of application servers.

OSS Developers: Stress the 'free' nature of your product. In cases like Star Office/Open Office, it has already started to win 'Normal Joe' converts from pay for software.
VirtualDub, the GPL'd video editor, has already become a defacto standard for internet video publishing. This is mostly because it combines excellent usage with zero cost.

If you want Joe-sixpack to use your OS app, stress how much he gets and how little it costs.

Re:Joe Sixpack knows 'Free' from 'Pay'... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473603)

How can you say that companies have no right to exist?

Companies are simply groups of people, associations.

What you say makes it sound like you believe people shouldn't be allowed to gather together to play baseball, to perform in a civic concert band or choir.

None of those organizations should be allowed to exist?

What a crock. Please don't write such drivel in the future.

Kill Open Source (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473432)

Open Source should be placed in the same category as the small pox virus. John Q Public must be made aware that his country will turn into a socialist intellectual welfare state if Open Source is not stopped. The govenmnent should appoint a department to oversee which companies can develop software and every aspect of the development process. If this does not happen, hippie communists can spread lies that brought about the recession. We must kill open source because people should not be allowed to share code. If anyone can look at someone else's works and build on them, that would cheat the original creator's efforts. In effect, Open Source makes people stagnant by not forcing them to know every part of the software development process. In conclusion, Open Sourcing hippie communists must be forced to eat goat spam just like every other spamer because they litter the intellectual landscape in much the same way spamers do.

service is where the money is (2, Interesting)

shibut (208631) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473435)

As usual, M$ is going after the money. This is not new, IBM realized that service is where the money is almost a decade ago. Open Source is, at least in part, an ideological movement and therefore can naturally plug the holes where there is less money to be made. Fighting with M$ over market share in OS was a noble thing, and we may win ultimately with some DoJ help, but this will not change the fact that M$ is going after the money. We all know that they aren't really technology innovators, their strength has always been seeing where the market is (even if they realize it later than others) and going after it with a well-oiled marketing machine. That's what they're trying to do now with services.

Maybe MS is prepared to leave OS? (1)

Arakonfap (454732) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473436)

(just conjecture, I'm not suggesting this is the way it -is-, just a slim chance that it is the way it may-be)

I know that may sound crazy, but look at the .NET stuff. The have submitted it for standardization, and must even supply a working implementation in something other then Windows.

I know that part probably just includes things for server-side .NET services (And "hello world" programs), but I'm sure the runtime libararies will eventually be copied. Once those are done developers will soon be using that exclusively anyway, and getting (more) portability 'for free' since it's standardized.

In fact, the company working on a Linux .NET (name escapes me) is planning on building the windowing framework too.

After a time, MS will still be there, but only to collect monthly/yearly fees for MS Office (which will be DLed and installed over the net), MSN, email, and other net-based services. It may not matter whether you run MS Windows, or a *nix, since to interoperate with others you'll need .NET subscription.

Of course, it may not turn out anyway like that.. I just don't see the motive in standardizing something that will only benifit themselves.

Big Players back Open Source? (2, Insightful)

Lloydee (530073) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473438)

With companies such as IBM and SUN backing Open Source the question remains as to where do these companies see there future revenue being generated. These companies invest in the ideology with there future revenue being more focused away from the Shelf Software solutions (as per MS) and more to the Hardware and Services that are required to implement the Opens Source solutions. Either way in the long run the consumer is always going to have to pay for a quality solution, if it is against hardware, services or software is unknown!

customer participation and user-centered design (2)

tim_maroney (239442) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473439)

Given that the people most likely to participate in an open-source project are also users of the application being worked on, what would happen if the customers for a software product actually participated in its design and creation? It would be impossible to create a product that is not what the market wants!

Unfortunately, the only people who are able to participate effectively in the design and creation of an open source project under existing models are computer programmers. So yes, they will be able to create programs that computer programmers want to use, and they already have, which is why the only examples of open source successes the article could cite (Apache and BIND) are targeted at programmer/sysadmins. The problem is that the larger market doesn't want programs for programmers, and programmers are really poor at designing systems for non-programmers.

This is not to say there may not be future open source models which allow the participation of non-programmers, but so far the only way seems to be for companies to take losses investing in open-source development meant to unseat a closed-source competitor -- and this strategic pressure would not exist in the imagined open-source utopia.

How can user-centered design be reconciled with open source?

Tim

Moving to services... (2)

Ami Ganguli (921) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473442)

The $500 billion question is whether or not MS can move their revenue base to services before their monopoly on the desktop runs out. I think they might just be able to pull it off, but the odds are against them.

I figure the Linux desktop (including productivity applications) will be feature comparible to Windows/Office in about two years. That's about one iteration of Windows away. At that point the trickle of users moving their desktops to Linux will become a flood and MS won't have anything to use as leverage to take over new markets.

So what are the chances that MS will be able to build their services business from almost nothing to $30 billion dollars within that time? Considering that the services don't even exist yet, I'd say their chances are pretty slim. When you consider the fact that IBM, AOL, Sun, Sony, Oracle, and others will be fighting MS all the way, I'd say MS is screwed.

The best MS can do is become like every other IT company struggling to compete on merit. Sure they'll always be big, but in five years they won't be any more influentual than the other major players.

Re:Moving to services... (1)

3am (314579) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473502)

good argument is sound and valid.

your argument is valid, but i doubt its soundness - I see no reason that Microsoft would lose it's OS monopoly in the next ten years, even if linux was superior in features.

many people are still running windows 95 at home... people do not switch OSs easily, and especially if it is technically involved. I would guess that most people don't upgrade their operating system at all, and the only time they do is when they buy a new computer.

so the biggest obstacle is a dearth of pre-packaged computers with Linux installed by the vendor. When Dell, Compaq, et al offer Linux systems, MS will start to feel it. Of course, MS has monstrous influence at these companies, and change there is very unlikely any time soon.

another huge step would be an AOL port to Linux, but that hasn't even happened yet... that is a barrier to tens of millions of people in the US who use them for their ISP.

Re:Moving to services... (2)

killthiskid (197397) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473591)

I think what Ami Ganguli is trying to say is that MS will lose the monolopy on 'sales' of new OS's.

They may still have a monopoly in % of PC with a MS OS, but they may have a non-monopoly on new OS sales.

Which would dry up their revenue stream, at least from OS's.

Open source will never get a monopoly (1)

GreenCrackBaby (203293) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473448)

There's a reason Microsoft won the browser war. They shipped their browser on new PCs, and restricted the big computer sellers from including anything else. Granted, most people on slashdot are more than capable of downloading Netscape, but the general public isn't.


That's why there will never be an open source monopoly. Until PCs ship with open source programs, 95% of the computing public isn't going to be using anything except that which came with their computer.

Custumer service problems (1)

elgato1906 (301216) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473451)

I had a Dimension XPSD 233 that had the mother board go in it. they were quick to respond to the first call but after installing the mother board I found that it had also fried the video card. They left me hanging for three weeks while they tried to find the same model card. After several calls I finally got them to send me a different model card, but it was a major hassle.

On the other side though I have had the computer for 4yrs and it still runs. There customer service may suck but they make the best computers out there.

Slightly OT - I already got my fill of monopoly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473457)

I already got me TWO, yes TWO new operating systems this week. Linux 7.2 and SuSE 7.3. And, as Tony the Tiger would say, they're grrrreat.

services implies more than code... (1)

tcyun (80828) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473458)

One of the things that open source is good at is distributed development. I don't know that anyone can argue that point. However, services are more than just code. I think that MS is positioning itself into a world where the code is not as important as the directed effort of many people.

The corporate lock-step activity necessary to execute a services plan is different than the open source model. In many ways, the services that are to be provided require a large marketing team to convince companies to use a new type of software (such as .Net). While the open source community can quickly create versions of .Net, the community would be hard pressed to create .Net from scratch AND get large corporate participation in the way that Microsoft is doing. (Yes yes yes, the reason that they can do it is because of their monopolistic position).

So what if we let MS do all of the marketing work, and then reverse engineer all the code. Would this mean that MS is right and open source is stealing all the work? Is it more like the generic drug companies? Is it possible for open source to "embrace and extend" on MS activities?

These are questions that are impossible to answer at the moment, but interesting to think about. Finishing back on the original point, however, we should really examine what these "services" are and if there is more to them than just code.

And somehow, I doubt... (1)

fiore42 (145493) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473463)

that if such an "open monopoly" were to occur, the majority of folks on Slashdot would be wailing about how the government needs to step in...

Ignorance (-1)

Trollificus (253741) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473464)

"but I think that even if John Q Public knows nothing about open source, if the services he uses are running open source, it doesn't matter."

Now that is just plain ignorant. And it's exactly why Windows users have come to be regarded as sheep. Oh, well, "It doesn't matter how or why it works, as long as it works".
Those of us who like to hack and tinker aren't buying it.

The problem is not the "monopoly" of anything (1)

og_sh0x (520297) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473469)

Last I checked, people hate Microsoft not because it's a monopoly, but because it abuses monopoly power to maintain it's position, which hurts consumers. Also, legally a monopoly is not illegal, only abusing that monopoly power is (AFAIK and IANAL, etc...) That said, the chances of the non-existant IP holder of open source being able to abuse that power is about as high as someone shutting down the non-existant single point of failure in the Internet.

New Section (2)

Bouncings (55215) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473482)

Has Slashdot started a new department entitled "Yet-Another-Intro-To-Open-Source-Article Department." Not to be critical, but the only thing his article shows us is that C|Net continues to cover and introduce Open Source through tough economic times.

Of course, for those of you unaware of Open Source software, read the article.

"open source monopoly" is an oxymoron (2)

mj6798 (514047) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473485)

Open source software is not possessed or controlled by any one group, and therefore it doesn't meet the criteria for a "monopoly". Microsoft can use it as much as the next guy. It gives nobody a commercial advantage or disadvantage, and if people want to write proprietary software in an open source environment, nothing is stopping them from doing so.

What open source does is something very logical and economically rational. The technologies underlying Windows and UNIX were developed years ago and do not require much investment to keep up or "manufacture", yet commercial vendors keep charging a premium. Open source software simply reflects the fact that these old technologies should cost little or nothing nowadays. Open source is simply a mechanism of a rational, efficient market. And as such, open source software will indeed become dominant, unless the government enacts market-distorting laws for the benefit of companies like Microsoft.

.NET is not a sure thing (1)

f00zbll (526151) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473493)

Working with .NET right now and I have to say it is far from impressive or adequate. Take mappoint for example. MS is positioning it to take over Mapquest now owned by AOL it's rival. Doing simple things like using geocodes from other engines causes it to create unpredictable results for directions and maps. Not only that, .NET appears to be crippled and doesn't allow raw socket connection or api. Everything is through http connection.
As much as I love http connection, using it for everything is both stupid and unwise. Doing complex queries through http connections is wasteful and doesn't give you any advantage. On top of that, Mappoint's geocodes can be off by .5 mile or more.
Will mappoint or .NET succeed? Probably not at first or on the third try. Moving into services may be a huge mistake for Microsoft, since it is totally different than product development. The monthly over-head in hosting, maintenance and staffing can easily burn through millions. Using HTTP connections for complex ORB processes is a huge mistake and adds extra burden. Perhaps some one else will know more about .NET and post more details. Looking at the documentation for mappoint.NET is laughable.

Internet and opensource have commonality (1)

thule (9041) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473500)

Both are "distributed." Microsoft is trying to create their own Internet. The whole point of the Internet is the distributed nature of it. This is why I think that when a .Net-like competitor comes out that is *fully* distributed it will succeed in the long run.

Services? What Services? (1)

simetra (155655) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473510)

What are these mystical Services? Are they pay versions of existing Services? Are they something new? My guess is they're MS pay versions of things that are doable/doing/done now by non-MS servers. Perhaps MS is betting that people will find some sort of comfort in paying for something, rather than not. It's crazy, but people seem to have this inate sense that they more money thrown at something, the better.

hey... (1)

Sj0 (472011) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473513)

isn't "open monopoly" an oxymoron? Theres a difference between a single company dominating and a thousand different comanies who all have their own packages competing which all happen to be open.

...it's the difference between a "monopoly" and "competition".

I'm about to short 100,000 shares of Microsoft.... (1)

ReidMaynard (161608) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473522)

I should be a billionair in no time

Simple Economics (2, Interesting)

begonia (177694) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473523)

I'm not sure that I like the term "Open Monopoly" any more than I am that crazy about the term "Open Source Movement". I am inclined to think of it more in terms of simple supply and demand. For the first time in history, it is possible for any individual to produce a product (i.e., a piece of software) and to distribute it to the entire world with essentially no distribution costs -- merely the cost of an internet connection. The net effect of this enormous overhead supply is exactly what economics would predict: the price of software is plummetting.

With regard to Microsoft, they have the reputation and the refinement of product to dominate current installations. They also have a cozy relationship with computer vendors that makes John Q. Public think he's getting things for free. But the quality of Linux products is improving rapidly. These days there are far fewer differences that similarities between a Windows and a KDE desktop. One of these days Microsoft is going to make a misstep, and I suspect their rate of their collapse will be a shock to most people.

Way too complicated... (1)

slacknet (527085) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473526)

I think everyone's making this just a tad more complicated than it really needs to be. This is all just one of those things that you either use if you support, or shun if you don't. Myself personally? I don't like Microsoft, so I don't buy their shit (and thus will not be subscribing to the .NET services). Yep, it really IS that simple! Let the people throw more money at Bill if they want. I'll stick with the software that doesn't cost me anything.

An 'open monopoly' could be trouble (1)

MissMyNewton (521420) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473545)

OK, it's just thinking out loud, but who is accountable if an 'OM' (not that I'm convinced such a thing is possible) leads to trouble.

Let's suppose there is a CLI-crowd that forces some kind of situation where ease of use is impossible to implement for technical reasons?

I don't have specific examples, just thinking rhetorically, but the possibility of such an outcome should still be considered, however unlikely it may be.

fsadf rewqet ereqeet etrer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473549)

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Who pays for Open Source? (2)

purduephotog (218304) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473554)

Who pays to educate a student to PHD level, where upon he/she can write the complicated algorithms needed to do *insert subject here* within an 'open source' program?

Are all your ideas going to come out of academics locked behind the desk? Or do you think someone with a HS education and lots of free time can do the complicated calculations while pounding out code?

No, this isn't a troll- but *someone* has to think and spend the time to write these algorithms, and that costs money. Education costs money. Yes, you can have 3 million people working on it, and yes they are paid by employers ... and yes they can dedicate their time to helping along open source programs.

Don't patent anything? Where's the profit motive? How will you pay off your 10 years of college for your PHD by giving away your ideas freely? Oh, get a job and then give those ideas away freely?? Sorry... can't work that way.

Anways, I see OS as a more potent form of QA- force the corporations to incorporate the stability of newer platforms... if at least customers are expecting that kind of stability then that raises the stakes.

Joe Consumer (2, Interesting)

Anton Anatopopov (529711) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473576)

After all, your average "Joe the consumer" doesn't know a thing about open source

Although this statement is factually correct, that should not mean that we stop trying to promote Linux at every opportunity.

I see the upcoming launch of XP as a chance for Linux evangelism on a huge scale.

Don't like product activation ? - Linux

Don't want to pay $200 ? - Linux

I have managed to convert three of my friends to mandrake without really trying. Once you explain to them how Microsoft works, its like a light goes on in their heads and they are like, "where can I get Linux ?".

For me at least it was like shooting fish in a barrel. Perhaps if more of us took an active approach to evangelism, there would be even more Linux users than there are already.

Some people are still clinging to their microsoft comforter, but I'll bet product activation makes a few of those people think twice! :-)

.NET only (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473577)

I can run open source software on Windows until
the version of Windows that only runs .NET
software.

personality disorder (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2473586)

what's the difference between "Joe the consumer" and John Q Public?

c'mon folks (2, Interesting)

naughtynative (213281) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473588)

Apart from the natty meme 'open monopoly', what value will Slashdotters get from this article? Did you get to the bottom? To the bit where it says



who's speaking?


Petr Hrebejk is a senior software architect and developer on the open source NetBeans Tools Platform project at NetBeans, working for Sun Microsystems in the Czech Republic.


Tim Boudreau is a software developer, writer and marketing manager on the same project, also working for Sun Microsystems in the Czech Republic.


Now can you spell a-d-v-o-c-a-c-y ?


This puff piece was meant for the suits.

95% of the desktop market... (2)

jd (1658) | more than 12 years ago | (#2473606)

...is one hell of a monopoly to break. With even a licence to do development under .NET costing in the hundreds (or maybe thousands), .NET will be unreachable by Open Source vendors, making it impossible for the market to be infiltrated. MS will have a guaranteed 100% monopoly, from the day .NET is deployed.

By even conservative estimates, Linux et al should have depleted Microsoft of several percent of market share. This isn't happening, except in some high-end businesses, and even that might be more attributable to the economic dark-age we're in.

Worse, the likely result of the DOJ vs. MS trial is that the "settlement" will be quietly forgotten and the case dropped. Sure, MS has been found guilty, but if the settlement is a fine of $0.00, then that's the end of it. Right now, America is more focussed on "other" news, giving both MS and the DOJ a chance to wriggle out of the mess, if not smelling like roses, then at least having a stench that is totally overpowered by current events.

To wrap it all up, Microsoft, Sun and Oracle seem to be keen on out-Orwelling each other. Seriously, I would not be surprised if one of those three companies effectively had the power to dictate and licence ALL computer use, of any kind, anywhere. At which point, we might as well all give up and go home. If Open Source becomes illegal through some piece of legislation or other (it nearly happened, not that long ago!), and/or information becomes purely licenced intellectual property (including common & public knowledge), then there is no point in even trying.

The scary thing is, these are not so improbable, today. Ten years ago, nobody would even dream of trying to restrict even the most hazardous of texts on the Internet. I believe that the "Anarchist's Cookbook" even won in a court action, under the first ammendment. I'm not so sure that it would fare so well, today. There are plenty of public records that document the location of grounds contaminated with deadly bacteria and viruses. Given the genuine potential for abuse, I'd be amazed if these records stayed public for long. And if some records "vanish", then you can expect to see others slip into the "vanish" tray. "Accidents" happen, especially when people are too busy worrying about potential lawsuits & covering their back.

The end result is almost inevitable. For very real security reasons, the Government and Corporations are going to have to re-think their attitudes towards disclosure. And since nobody likes to be vulnerable, that means that it's equally inevitable that we'll end up with some private enterprise that will graciously handle all that drudgery for everyone. At some point, it may well become mandatory to filter everything through such a company. At which point, "openness" will not exist and those who yearn for a reneissance will be deemed a hazard, or worse. The recently-dropped bill shows clearly that this is not some desperate attempt at an Orwellian nightmare, set in a Corporate-owned post-apocolyptic world, but something that today's Senators are willing to openly consider.

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