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MSN Blocks Mozilla, Other Browsers [updated]

timothy posted more than 12 years ago | from the darn dept.

Microsoft 1295

k_hokanson writes: "I was just going to check out some tasty news articles, with my trusty Mozilla, at MSN. but what do I get when I go there? A nice little message telling me that 'in order to display this page properly', I have to get the latest version of IE! And no, there's no option to display it incorrectly. " Enough people have submitted this story that it can't be an isolated case;) Thanks, Microsoft. Here's the story on Yahoo!. CT: telling konqueror to lie about its User Agent causes the page to render correctly save the background which is the wrong color. Update: 10/25 23:19 GMT by T : kuwan writes "Looks like Microsoft was getting too much heat. CNet is reporting that Microsoft is backing off on their browser block. I'm only wondering how long it will be before they do it again with some other excuse as to why we all need IE."

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First Nigger (-1)

First Nigger (460412) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478845)

Woohoo!! I be first nigger up in this bitch! Course I gots no compitition but hey thas okay mastah. I bettah go out inta the field now and pick some cotton mastuh. Where my crack be>? Piece out my brother

Re:First Nigger (-1)

wenismonkey (267712) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478853)

your mom says hi.

Random crap, just like all slashdot comments (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2478870)

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Re:First Nigger (-1)

cyborg_monkey (150790) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478876)

Would you please shut the fuck up?

So sorry you couldn't get first post, cracker (-1)

First Nigger (460412) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478904)

Awwww is somebody be upset becase they didn't get first post? Go fuck yourself, asshole!!! Where my white women be! Where my chitlins be! Where my watahmelon be!!!!!!!!!!

Not for me (2, Informative)

carrier lost (222597) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478852)

Just tried with NS 6.1. Everything displayed okay.

MjM

Re:Not for me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2478903)

And it works in NS 4.76. They're not so silly as to block any browser that still has double-digit market share =P

Konqueror: nope (not with default user agent, anyhow, but ...)

Re:Not for me (4, Interesting)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478941)

Well they probably hardly know or care about Konqueror. From what I've read the page specifically blocks Opera and Mozilla. If you change Opera to report it as Ophra for example. It will let it go through. So its not a block everthing but IE scheme. Its a lets not let Opera or mozilla in scheme, which I think is worse as its specifically discriminating. And not by quality either as Opera and Mozilla are the 2 non IE browser that most likly will render msn.com best.

Re:Not for me - Galeon 0.12.4 is blocked (2)

victim (30647) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478907)

Galeon 0.12.4 is blocked. It offers to let me download some windows and mac browsers, but nothing that will help on the computer I'm actually using.

Random Crap! (-1, Offtopic)

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Re:Not for me (2)

crumley (12964) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478923)

Yeah, the MSN upgrade page is deceptive. They're allowing netscape 4.x and some other browsers. But mozilla, lynx, opera, etc. are being locked out. Of course you can get by it by changing your User Agent string, but the average person isn't going to know how to do that.

How are they blocking ? (2)

ZxCv (6138) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478928)

The guy from Opera in the article said they changed the browserid by 1 char and they were able to access msn.com ok.

So are they blocking specific browserid's or are they blocking everything but a couple specific ones?

Re:Not for me (2)

13013dobbs (113910) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478940)

Looks fine with Netscape 4.7 on Solaris as well. Netscape 4.0 under NT will bring up the browser upgrade screen.

AOL (0)

WoWo (152126) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478854)

I hope AOL starts using Mozilla in their software. After MS sees all those user not liking it, maybe they will change.

this is the first (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2478856)

POST! Yes, I posted the first POST. cool

Windows Update is worse... (0, Troll)

supabeast! (84658) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478857)

At least MSN just turns you away. The last time I loaded up Windows update in Mozilla it went berserk and I had to escape out of X to get my system to respond to me...

Yeah, its been discussed in the XP article (1)

crumley (12964) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478858)

Here's [slashdot.org] the a thread about this from the XP article.

Re:Yeah, its been discussed in the XP article (1)

CmdrPinkTaco (63423) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478886)

I wonder if there is an article about it on MSN - not that I would be able to tell you if there was.

Not really... (1)

xiangpeng (324117) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478860)

I got pals who got Netscape 6 entering MSN just now.

Anyway, if they don't do that, how can they keep up with their awesome reputation of snuffing out competition?

Re:Not really... (0)

Captain Pedantic (531610) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478972)

Thanks for letting us know about your friends, but having read the article, we already knew that Netscape 6 worked. Ok 6.1, works, but I can't believe your friends would use anything older.

I run into those every once in a while (2)

Greyfox (87712) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478863)

Every so often I run into some page or another that insists on IE. I have an easy solution; I just don't go to those pages. I would be somewhat curious to know how they're blocking the pages; is it just a name check which you can work around by setting the propery in Mozilla that reflects the browser type? Or do they do some sneaky ActiveX thing that you can't get around?

Re:I run into those every once in a while (3, Informative)

Dimensio (311070) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478898)

From the story it appears to check the browser type. Apparently changing the browser type string that Opera sends by one letter gets around the problem. It also explains why Netscape 6.1 can get in when Mozilla can't.

Kinda begs the question.... (1)

Cujo (19106) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478864)

What would a Mozilla user (or strictly speaking, beta tester) want to browse MSN for? Fair question, no?

Re:Kinda begs the question.... (0)

seann (307009) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478947)

To download a program for a person who does not know how to downnload a program from the program download program page.

first post? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2478867)

twenty seconds between replying and hitting submit.. pfft

Workaround.... (4, Informative)

sb_steele (513302) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478868)

Apparently MS is only blocking OS's that have IE available (Win32 / MacOS)...there is hope: A story on mozilla.org [mozilla.org] shows how to change what your browser reports as its UserAgent (Customizing Mozilla [mozilla.org]). Change (or create) user.js in your Mozilla Profile directory, and place this in it:

user_pref("general.useragent.override", "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22smp i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010110 Netscape6/6.5");

Mozilla on Win32 now gets in... But this just adds to the evidence against anything MS...

Re:Workaround.... (1)

whydna (9312) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478953)

Don't forget that there's a version of IE for Solaris. ;-) Check MS's site... it's there.

-Andy

Re:Workaround.... (1)

elsegundo (316028) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478956)

Well, I checked out msn.com with NS 6.1 on my Linux box and my W2K box, and neither was blocked, although NS on Linux did not render the HTML very well.

Re:Workaround.... (2)

boarder (41071) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478964)

Well, it blocks me on Linux (using Konqueror, Mozilla), but it lets NS 4.77 in fine. I can't think of why outdated, old NS 4.77 can "render the page correctly" and the newer Mozilla and Konqueror can't. So, it isn't the OS that MSN is blocking, just specific browsers.

Re:Workaround.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2478976)

I'm on Linux, latest mozilla.. blocked. On my Sun Box, latest mozilla blocked. IE crashes on it btw when going to msn.com.

--
Report Bill Gates, "the internet terrorist" to your congress representative.

No no no! (5, Insightful)

TomatoMan (93630) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478977)

I'd argue to never, ever do this. Why change your good browser to report that it's a bad browser?

This what's important here: The authors of the site blocking you have decided that you're not important. Fine; nod your head in agreement and take your traffic, ad-viewing eyes, and attention elsewhere. Don't even tell them or complain; let them die of natural selection.

Sounds pretty fishy to me! (1)

kuwan (443684) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478873)

So far I've confirmed that Opera (as stated in the article) for OS X is shut out as well as Mozilla. But other (less used) browsers like OmniWeb and iCab (for Mac OS X) will be let through even though these browsers don't support the features that Opera & Mozilla do. Maybe they just want to shut out all the most popular non-Micro$oft browsers. Sounds a little fishy to me.

Well... (1)

Scoria (264473) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478878)

There are several local proxy type freeware or OS programs out there (I'm not sure if the Proximitron [http://www.spywaresucks.org/prox] does it, though it will mask the browser information) that will intercept all HTTP traffic and modify it.

I would bet that some of these programs can forge the browser type headers. :) Then again, without viewing the site, I would wager that MSN uses JavaScript to do this. In that case, filter it.

Beautiful (1)

Cephas Keken (224723) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478881)

I doubt there is any sort of restriction on this,
without proper standards, and/or use of those standards we will continue in a one browser world.

This sounds particularly hoaxy though, so ehh we shall see.

I'd like to see W3 really penalize this type of behaviour, at least amoungst major companies.

And? (1)

GMFTatsujin (239569) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478882)

... So, what exciting content am I missing out on, exactly? Advertisements for XP, maybe?

Let 'em keep their site locked up. They're under no compunction to let me see what they're doing anyway.

I just used Netscape 4.77 (on Windows2000) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2478883)

And everything loaded. There were some glitchy things, but it *did* load.

Change HTTP headers (1)

hardburn (141468) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478884)

I think there is a way to change the HTTP headers in Mozilla and Konquer (others?) to show it as an IE client. Try that.

Re:Change HTTP headers (1)

brinkster (523812) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478929)

Telling Konqueror to identify itself as IE 5.5 on Windows 2000 will let you view the page. It looks all screwed up though.

How big of an Impact does this have? (1)

TedCheshireAcad (311748) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478887)

It's not very coincidential that MS blocks non-IE broswers on the day they release their flagship new OS, designed to put .NET's foot in the door. What does this mean? Since Passport is becoming a big deal with them, and is only supported on the Windows platform with IE, why should non-IE browsers even try to access Passport sites? This is all part of MS's strategy to push .NET out, so that Windows will be the one and only OS that will "take full advantage of the internet".

Pretty slick.

doesn't even work with IE 5.5!! (2)

turbine216 (458014) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478889)

either the page is poorly designed, or IE 5.5 is, because it doesn't even render correctly when i use the borg standard!!

here's a screenshot [projectlockdown.com] of the page that i'm getting in IE 5.5.

anybody else seeing the same thing?

Re:doesn't even work with IE 5.5!! (1)

rgmoore (133276) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478971)

That's just their friendly way of forcing you to upgrade to IE6.

Not just "incompatible browsers" (5, Interesting)

RedX (71326) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478892)

This doesn't seem to be one of those issues where MS will claim that non-IE browsers can't view MSN because of technical incompatibilities. According to the Yahoo article, Opera is claiming that MSN is actively blocking the browser depending on what name it reports to the server. Non-IE browsers that MS hasn't chosen to block are working fine, at least according to Opera.

"Microsoft is seeing (that) it is an Opera browser and shutting it out," said Tetzchner, whose team was testing the problem Thursday. "If you change the Opera string by one letter, it is letting us in."

Also cannot login to Hotmail with latest Mozilla (2)

savaget (26702) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478893)

What is causing me not having the capability to login to Hotmail with latest Mozilla(0.9.5)?
Is this a Mozilla bug or is it an evil MS deed?

heh heh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2478894)

Seems to work for me (NS 4.78). I wonder whether they will notice if their webserver gets /.'d.

"other browsers" (1)

archen (447353) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478895)

a lot of other browsers allow you to change you're user agent, so I'm not sure if "all browsers" apply. Opera can pass itself off as IE - it's just a simple option in the preferences. Not that I would advocate supporting any site that pulls this sort of stunt, but there are work arounds.

Sign for you! (-1)

Jon Coktoastone (527727) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478897)

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Tried lynx... (2)

don_carnage (145494) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478899)


Attention: Web Browser Upgrade Required to View MSN.com

If you are seeing this page, we have detected that the browser that
you are using will not render MSN.com correctly. Additionally, you'll
see the most advanced functionality of MSN.com only with the latest
version of Microsoft Internet Explorer or MSN Explorer. If you wish to
visit MSN.com, please select the appropriate download link below.
* Internet Explorer for Windows
* Internet Explorer for Macintosh
* MSN Explorer for Windows

Re:Tried lynx... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2478966)

Try something like 'lynx -useragent="Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows NT)" http://www.msn.com' and you get in with lynx.

Re:Tried lynx... (1)

joel8x (324102) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478967)

You know that I can't think of one good reason to view MSN instead of Yahoo or Excite anyway. Its like a manditory self inflicted ban on themselves.

... (1)

ignis (218763) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478902)

no problem on my mac with netscape communicator 4.75

is it just the open source browser?

old tactics (2)

shibut (208631) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478905)

When M$ first realized that they miscalculated with the internet party and created msn, they would crash netscape browsers. Anyone else remember that? Luckily there wasn't anything too interesting on msn (or msnbc) at the time so it wasn't a big loss, just annoying. Also, later on when they started "embracing and extending" there were webpages that would have problems with older netscapes.

Update (1)

Scoria (264473) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478910)

MSN seems to work fine for me. I'm using Netscape 4.72 on RedHat Linux 6.2. (I know the software is outdated; it's my local DNS server, give me a break.)

Did Slashdot happen to validate this story before posting it?

Time for a UI preference for user_agent (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2478912)

Time for galeon/Mozilla et all allow the user to set the user_agent string via the UI.

Netscape on Linux works but not Mozilla. (2)

Carnage4Life (106069) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478915)

This is fucked up. I just successfully went to MSN.com with Netscape 4.72 on Linux but when I tried Mozilla 0.9.4 I got the error message.

opera 5.11 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2478916)

I just tried with Opera 5.11 impersonating IE5, and it failed.

Other browsers planning ahead (2)

rgmoore (133276) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478918)

It's a good thing that other browsers let you manipulate the user-agent string and trick stupid sites like this into believing that you're using IE. Of course that won't help the majority of users who don't know about features like that, but at least the option is there.

Bigbrother (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2478919)

Seems like M$ is taking a lot of liberty, hiding behind the current crisis our world is facing. Shouln't something be done about this? This is purely insane, Bill Gates is a terrorist, he needs to be stripped of his citzenship and deported to Afganistan, after which we'd bomb his trainning camps in Seattle and Afganistan. I swear, this has pissed me off more than it pissed me off the last few days.

On another thought, kerneli.org is no longer around, apparently, the current crazyness in regard to crypto and US has forced them to close down, which means, Linux people wont get crypto anytime soon?

Confirmed, and this is great news. (5, Insightful)

TomatoMan (93630) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478920)

Confirmed on Moz 0.94! Says I have to upgrade to IE for Windows or Mac, or MSN Explorer for Windows.

I think this is great news. It means Microsoft is leaving the web and going their own way. Whatever it is they've got over there, by definition it isn't the web if it can't be viewed with a generic web browser.

Good luck to them on their new venture, whatever it is, and happy to have them out of the way on standards issues now that they've left the web to the rest of us.

It's just to fool statistics (4, Insightful)

chrysalis (50680) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478924)

The workaround is easy : change your user-agent to MSIE. Opera, Links, and most HTTP proxies can do this.
The drawback is that the percentage of clients using IE will increase, even though they are really using Mozilla or other non-IE software.
So statistics will always show a lot of IE, even when AOL will have released AOL 6 with Gecko..


Re:It's just to fool statistics (1)

mkelley (411060) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478975)

doesn't work in Opera. I changed my settings in Opera to show up as IE 5 and I get the upgrade page.

Built in games in XP use MSN gaming site (1)

Green Light (32766) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478925)

The article talks about several bundled things that use MSN (Media Player, etc.). There are also a bunch of games bundled with XP (Internet Checkers, Internet Hearts, etc.) that automatically connect to MSN to play against a random opponent.
There is this windows that pops up first telling you that it has to send some info to the server for you to be able to play, but promising that it will never never never send any personal information out.

Makes you wonder what personal information it is sending out...

Very Lame (1)

dood (11062) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478931)

Yep, it works in Netscape 6, but not Mozilla. How *lame*.

In the 1950's, people argued that racism was bad for business against those businesses who didn't serve to African Amercians. Why do I feel like this is the same type of thing going on with MS's treatment of Mozilla users? Screw MS.. I'll just go to Netcape or Yahoo.

d00d

Implications? (2)

laetus (45131) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478932)

My first thought is, so what? Microsoft wants to limit access to its network. Dumb move.


Dumb move in the short term, though. But with them ramping up XP, Passport and .NET, maybe they'll start doing things like only allowing software updates via MSN and therefore you have to have their browser.


I don't know. I'm not sure if they're shooting themselves in the foot or shouting "Resistance is Futile!"


My guess is long term, the American and European governments will use this as further evidence in any anti-trust cases.

Hrm. (1)

tweder (22759) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478933)

On my Debian system using Mozilla 0.9.5 I get the error message - but with Netscape 4.77 I can access the page fine.

I am shocked! (1)

Rob Riggs (6418) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478935)

Microsoft engaged in anti-competitive practices? I never thought I'd live to see the day. This can't be happening. There must be a rational explanation. There must be a bug in all those other browsers, or a security vulnerability. Microsoft is only trying to help. I'm sure of it.

Netscape 4.75 ok, but Opera 4.01 not (1)

JohnSmith1138 (313010) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478936)

Just tried Netscape 4.75 and it was fine. Opera 4.01 did not. Kind of surprised me but here is the message:

Attention: Web Browser Upgrade Required to View MSN.com

If you are seeing this page, we have detected that the browser that you are using will not render MSN.com correctly. Additionally, you'll see the most advanced functionality of MSN.com only with the latest version of Microsoft Internet Explorer or MSN Explorer. If you wish to visit MSN.com, please select the appropriate download link below.

Internet Explorer for Windows

Internet Explorer for Macintosh

MSN Explorer for Windows

©2001 Microsoft Corporation.All rights reserved.Terms of UseAdvertiseTRUSTe Approved Privacy StatementGetNetWise

Since when is MSN important? (0)

Georgia (531651) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478937)

And how many hours do you suspect until Mozilla has an option to "announce browser to be IE"?

Any way that MS tries to force you to be one browser is futile, because you can just imitate it with another browser.

Opera 5 For Linux Doesn't Work (1)

benii (325722) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478939)

Other people have posted that some versions of Netscape do work. I thought I'd inform everyone that my copy of Opera 5 for Linux does not work.

Not to sound like a dick.... (2, Insightful)

base2op (226729) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478942)

Not to sound like a dick, but isn't this just as bad as that stupid Microsoft Free Friday Apache mod? Yeah, mod me down, flame me -- whatever.

Why is it that when the underdog does something dirty it's all right? (Granted, the Apache mod was probably written by an individual [not a corp.], but still...)

For reference: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/07/02/114223 0&mode=thread

Proxies to the rescue? (2)

EvlPenguin (168738) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478951)

I have a lot of computers on my network, and I really don't feel like going to each one and changing settings to "impersonate" IE. I also have a box with junkbuster to act as a proxy. Is there any way to change the browser name in the junkbstr.ini? IIRC, junkbuster just blocks the browser name, and sets the http-refer to internet.junkbuster.com.

Anyone out there who's done this?

I see MSN just fine... (-1)

Dead Fart Warrior (525970) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478955)

... oh, but I use IE6.

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| |
| Its the bomb! |
| |
| _ _ _ _ __ _ |
' - -- . . - - - '
| _|/
| ." ".
| /(o)-(o)\
/_)| / |
|_)| '- |
\_)\ '.___.' / |\/|_
| \ \_/ / _| '/
|_\ \.___./ \ ) /
\ \_/\__/\__ ==|
\ \ /\ /\ `\ |
\ \\// \ |
`\ /\ / |
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The last straw . . . (1)

xah (448501) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478957)

That's it. Up until now, I thought that Microsoft was sometimes annoying, but, overall, it was harmless. Now, upon being unable to view MSN.com, I have realized that they are actually the unholiest subalterns of doom itself.

IE Free Fridays (1)

ptgThug (515679) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478958)

As much as I may hate this idea, I think we should all run such a mod and forever refuse to serve IE.

IE is hampered in that it can't lie about its UA string like K and Opera can.

Is this really a bad thing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2478959)

This could be looked at as a feature of the Mozilla Browser.

"Mozilla protects you from crap like MSN."

Slate is non Mac-compatable. (1)

tcd004 (134130) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478960)

Slate, since its redesign, also doesn't work on my
Mac in Netscape 4.7 or IE 5.1.

Part of the page reders, but most is either gone or garbled.

T

Konqueor (1)

helody (530157) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478962)

Even though the fix is easy for any browser to change it's identification. It is nice to know Konqueror has that built in feature w00p.

Konqueror is the solution... (1)

L-Wave (515413) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478969)

Konqueror allows you to define the browser type (I forget the variable name) so essentially you can fake an IE browser type. =)

Wow! I Just Had the Same Problem With Slashdot! (2, Funny)

journalistguy (398433) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478970)

Using IE to access /. , all I got was a blue screen with a message that read:

Hi! How are you? I send you this Debian Potato in order to have your advice.

I'm sure glad I had Mozilla. A mere seven crashes, two freezes and a cookie later, I was able to read some News That Matters.

Tell me they're not evil (1)

warpeightbot (19472) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478978)

They specifically detected for Opera; Opera by default lies and tells it the agent is IE5, but has Opera in parens...

Once again Microsoft is trying its best to drive all but its most fanatically loyal customers away.... *sigh*

The Register Article (1)

rwa2 (4391) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478979)

The Register had a pretty comprehensive article [theregister.co.uk] on it a few days ago, including a survey of which browsers were and were not affected. I just thought /. didn't run the story because no one here would be interested in MSN :> .

It doesn't look like anything nefarious on MSN's part, just sloppy browser-specific web coding, as sites like Disney, Time Warner, and the USDOE FAFSA have done in the past.

Simple fix :) (2)

Arethan (223197) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478980)

In konqueror:
Settings->Configure Konqueror->User Agent
Simply add a new "Site/domain specific identification".
For example, I added ".msn.com" as the domain, and used "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)" as the user agent.

Voila! I can see msn.com again! Not that it is anything spectacular to look at, but if you MUST check the site out, this works well. :)

Konqueror works (1)

root_42 (103434) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478982)

Konqueror 2.2.1 works great (more or less, for a MS site), if you change the user agent setting to something with "Internet Explorer" in it. It's all in the "Extras"-menu.

I don't care if its Microsoft or not (1)

JWW (79176) | more than 12 years ago | (#2478984)

Any company that carries out these kind of practices (specifically actively locking certain browsers), isn't worthy of having business done with them.

Oh, but when you have a monopoly people won't be able to avoid it. For MSN it truly isn't that big of a deal. But what about the future change to the EULA for .NET that will require .NET developers to deny access to their sites to "certain" browsers.

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