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DEF CON "Capture the Capture The Flag" Data

Hemos posted more than 12 years ago | from the come-and-analyze dept.

Security 107

pablos writes "Each year DEF CON hosts the famed Capture The Flag contest. Hackers from all over the world duke it out on the network for 72 hours, hacking for the title. The Shmoo Group diligently logs every packet for posterity, we "Capture the Capture The Flag." Now is your chance to download by far the most interesting, 'sploit ridden, 5.8GB of intrusion collusion ever published. Free for the bandwidth endowed, this is the ultimate IDS testbed."

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Very Punctual Post (-1, Offtopic)

premier (184225) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496221)

I believe this post to be very punctual.

Some may argue that is it trite and cliche, but it feel it is a testament to my attentiveness to Slashdot.

Please join me in celebrating my punctuality, by scratching your left nut and gentle using the sweat from your nut to moisten your left nipple.

Have a quality day!

Happy troll tuesday! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496236)

It was a few Decembers ago and I was still in the Navy. An associate of mine (also a squid) decided that we should head south to Tijuana for a Mexican Sexual Escapade. Who am I to argue, so off we go.

We get into Tijuana, but the broads are really nasty so we take the geeksen-bus down to Ensenada. After spending some time getting lubed at Papas & Beer, we head out in search of ass. It seemed that all the American geeks were already dragging some sap around by his dick so we did what came natural to us. We looked for Mexican geeks.

We go into some nondescript underground bar and sure as shit, tit'se are geeks galore. We rent a couple named Hemos and Taco and take them back to our hotel room. Not the kind of guys to waste time, we strip our geeks and get down to business. Bob is in his bed right next to me, totally drunk, jack-hammering this geeks like he was some sort of pneumatic super-stallion.

I'm bonking my geek and Bob and I are watching each otit's's activities and laughing at each otit's. About this time, he grabs a beer off the nightstand and takes a swig. Next thing, he's spitting it at me through his teeth. We're laughing and carrying on, and his geek starts some shit in Perl. Apparently it's not getting into the shenanigans.

So Bob does what any good sailor in this situation would do: he spits beer in it's face, in order that it might share in the festivities. I thought that it was nice of him to include it in our shared celebration of lewdness. The geeks didn't think it was funny though, actually it took it as an insult, and started trying to kick him off of it's ass and out of the bed.

Now my geek is talking to the to the other geek and it grabs my pubes and starts yanking in an attempt to end our session. This bad behavior was not in my plans- hey, I just paid fifty bucks and this bitch didn't even get spit on and now it wants to high-tail it out of all this before I bust a nut? Hell no!

So Bob and I are discussing what the fuck we are going to do, still humping the geeks, when he starts farting. We're talking LOUD, squeaky, ripping farts; the kind that make your ass feel like it's being split with a razor blade. And the smell- did I mention we didn't eat that day, instead we stayed hungry in order to maximize our buzz.

I'm laughing so hard that I completely lost my hard-on, and it's all I can do to keep this geek underneath me from ripping my balls off. Bob, on the other hand, was still banging away on his geeks and about this time one of his farts goes liquid. He reaches behind him, wipes his ass onto his hand, and cleans it by wiping it onto his geeks's face.

My geeks saw this and expecting the same from me, balls up it's fist and smacks me in the forehead. Too much. Mister Nice Guy is now getting bent. So I do what any good Ambassador of the United States Navy does in a situation like this: I pull out and start pissing on it.

Bob sees this and being quick witted starts singing "My Corona" to the tune of The Knack's hit "My Sharona." As I empty what was left of "My Corona" all over this geeks's face and ass, Bob pulls out his cock and shoots a load of spooge all over his geeks's face, making special efforts to get some in it's hair.

I mean to say that this grand finale took what was left of the fight out of our geeks. They were both so mortified of what had transpired that when we got off of them they actually curled up into the fetal position and began sobbing. This was a relief to us, as we weren't sure up to this point how we were going to get out of there.

To make sure they didn't come after us, we wiped up the piss, shit, and spooge with their blouses and then liberated the receiver from the phone. On the way out the door Bob yelled "Remember the Alamo!" and we got the fuck out of Mexico quicker than Newt Gingrich can divorce a cancer-ridden spouse on it's deathbed.

Cheers,
gdb

Hello, how are you gentlemen? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496223)

I have often been accused of trolling (whatever that is), but it's safe to say that I've got the first post!

Re:Hello, how are you gentlemen? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496227)

I think it is safe to say you are a twat.

Re:Hello, how are you gentlemen? (-1, Offtopic)

premier (184225) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496228)

Almost, faggot. I guess it wasn't so safe to say, after all.

You glory has been stolen.

tism (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496225)

get tism now

Re:tism (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496248)

tism or jism?

Re:tism (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496401)

you're a yob or you're a wanker ..make you're fucking choice

I like to watch ... (0, Offtopic)

ukryule (186826) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496229)

Either voyeurism has reached a new level, or it's just the players and their proud(?) mums downloading this.

Then again, I guess it's not a bad screensaver!

PYRAMID TROLL SCHEME (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496230)

Do you want good luck to follow you and your offspring for generations to come? This troll has the solution for you?

All you have to do is copy this troll onto two to four of the discussion threads of your choice! That's right! Just copy this into a new message and click "post anonymously." That's all there is to it!

Tired of that idiot talking about geek culture! Stick one of these babies on it! And it's good for the economy!

Marge Gentry of Cambridge, Minnesota participated, and the next day she received a large fruit basket outside of her door from a secret admirer. Unfortunately, Marge was hit by a truck the next day, so she didn't get to the Granny Smith apples.

Commander Taco of Hole-in-the-ground West Virginia didn't participate, and he was violated by a group of raging homosexuals. Since the gang was headed by Jon Katz, Taco had no recourse to the law because the entire town knew about their previous relationship. The unfortunate outcome is enshrined forever at goatse.cx.

So if you want to get the fruit basket and not get poked in the bread basket, just copy this troll onto two of the discussions threads of your choice. We could have this place blanketed by sundown!

Re: PYRAMID TROLL SCHEME (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496287)

Do you want good luck to follow you and your offspring for generations to come? This troll has the solution for you?

All you have to do is copy this troll onto two to four of the discussion threads of your choice! That's right! Just copy this into a new message and click "post anonymously." That's all there is to it!

Tired of that idiot talking about geek culture! Stick one of these babies on it! And it's good for the economy!

Marge Gentry of Cambridge, Minnesota participated, and the next day she received a large fruit basket outside of her door from a secret admirer. Unfortunately, Marge was hit by a truck the next day, so she didn't get to the Granny Smith apples.

Commander Taco of Hole-in-the-ground West Virginia didn't participate, and he was violated by a group of raging homosexuals. Since the gang was headed by Jon Katz, Taco had no recourse to the law because the entire town knew about their previous relationship. The unfortunate outcome is enshrined forever at goatse.cx.

So if you want to get the fruit basket and not get poked in the bread basket, just copy this troll onto two of the discussions threads of your choice. We could have this place blanketed by sundown!

Re: PYRAMID TROLL SCHEME (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496289)

Do you want good luck to follow you and your offspring for generations to come? This troll has the solution for you?

All you have to do is copy this troll onto two to four of the discussion threads of your choice! That's right! Just copy this into a new message and click "post anonymously." That's all there is to it!

Tired of that idiot talking about geek culture! Stick one of these babies on it! And it's good for the economy!



Marge Gentry of Cambridge, Minnesota participated, and the next day she received a large fruit basket outside of her door from a secret admirer. Unfortunately, Marge was hit by a truck the next day, so she didn't get to the Granny Smith apples.

Commander Taco of Hole-in-the-ground West Virginia didn't participate, and he was violated by a group of raging homosexuals. Since the gang was headed by Jon Katz, Taco had no recourse to the law because the entire town knew about their previous relationship. The unfortunate outcome is enshrined forever at goatse.cx.

So if you want to get the fruit basket and not get poked in the bread basket, just copy this troll onto two of the discussions threads of your choice. We could have this place blanketed by sundown!!!

Re: PYRAMID TROLL SCHEME (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496290)

Do you want good luck to follow you and your offspring for generations to come? This troll has the solution for you...

All you have to do is copy this troll onto two to four of the discussion threads of your choice! That's right! Just copy this into a new message and click "post anonymously." That's all there is to it!

Tired of that idiot talking about geek culture! Stick one of these babies on it! And it's good for the economy!

Marge Gentry of Cambridge, Minnesota participated, and the next day she received a large fruit basket outside of her door from a secret admirer. Unfortunately, Marge was hit by a truck the next day, so she didn't get to the Granny Smith apples.

Commander Taco of Hole-in-the-ground West Virginia didn't participate, and he was violated by a group of raging homosexuals. Since the gang was headed by Jon Katz, Taco had no recourse to the law because the entire town knew about their previous relationship. The unfortunate outcome is enshrined forever at goatse.cx.

So if you want to get the fruit basket and not get poked in the bread basket, just copy this troll onto two of the discussions threads of your choice. We could have this place blanketed by sundown!

Re: PYRAMID TROLL SCHEME (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496291)

Do you want good luck to follow you and your offspring for generations to come? This troll has the solution for you?

All you have to do is copy this troll onto two to four of the discussion threads of your choice! That's right! Just copy this into a new message and click "post anonymously." That's all there is to it!

Tired of that idiot talking about geek culture! Stick one of these babies on it! And it's good for the economy!

Marge Gentry of Cambridge, Minnesota participated, and the next day she received a large fruit basket outside of her door from a secret admirer. Unfortunately, Marge was hit by a truck the next day, so she didn't get to the Granny Smith apples.

Commander Taco of Hole-in-the-ground West Virginia didn't participate, and he was violated by a group of raging homosexuals. Since the gang was headed by Jon Katz, Taco had no recourse to the law because the entire town knew about their previous relationship. The unfortunate outcome is enshrined forever at goatse.cx.

So if you want to get the fruit basket and not get poked in the bread basket, just copy this troll onto two of the discussions threads of your choice. We could have this place blanketed by sundown!!

Re: PYRAMID TROLL SCHEME (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496370)

You've got egg on your pussy. Somebody maek it goe away.

Re: PYRAMID TROLL SCHEME (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2497704)

Sounds like something I should report to the Troll Exchange Commission.

Making waves... (3, Funny)

hyrdra (260687) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496233)

Hmm...my favorite was the sinusoidal IP address spoofing. Anyone else?

Re:Making waves... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496292)

This comment is as insightful as my arse [goatse.cx].

*sniff sniff* (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496235)

logging 5.8 GB of packets so u can look thru them... that's really the epitome of sad :P

Boring old news (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496246)

The guys at techiescripts [techiescripts.com] have already posted a story about this yesterday.
  • Re: Old news [goatse.cx] by Hemos (Score:3) Tue 24 Apr 12:57AM BST
    • FUCK YOU!!! [comp-u-geek.net] by Anonymous Coward (Score:-1) Tue 24 Mar 01:12AM BST
  • Re: Old news [comp-u-geek.net] by Anonymous Coward (Score:-1) Tue 24 Mar 01:16AM BST

Re:Boring old news (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496262)

What a fucking retard you are, the goatse.cx domain appears, this troll doesn't work anymore.

Re:Boring old news (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496286)

Are you implying that this troll has worked in the past and that you bit? Admittedly, you do look stupid enough.

Re:Boring old news (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496307)

You, sir, are a moron. What's the point of your post if everyone is going to see what the real links are? At least you could have faked it in a better way, or at least try to post some interesting info.

Example: The IBM AS/400 API [ibm.com]

And besides that, comp-u-geek.net is no longer working. Nice try, better luck next time.

Re:Boring old news (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496313)

I take it back (I'm not the original poster, but I did you call you stupid). I presumed that you were a slashbot thinking he was clever. An obvious moron if not oxymoron. Of course if you miss comp-u-geek, you can still find it here [google.com]

Re:Boring old news (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496305)

Not to mention, comp-u-geek.net is down and has been for a while.

They cheated us. (5, Interesting)

vulgarDPS (525551) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496247)

At defcon 8 DPS was at defcon and Burrows straight up social engineered his way into the server room and rooted the main box. So technically we had just won but they disqualified him cuase they wouldn't acknowledge social engineering as valid. Before defcon 8 DPS (dead [protocol] society) had pretty much dominated the social engineering contests but defcon 8 was the first year they decided to stop doing the social engineering contests so we were forced to improvise.

Re:They cheated us. (5, Funny)

Effugas (2378) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496422)

Ghettohackers quite brutally owned my laptop. One of 'em started chatting with me, asked if he could check his email...though I watched the screen, it's always polite to look away when someone types in their password.

Except when that password is

notepad c:\flag.txt
ghi

Now, at the time I damn near killed someone over that...but I realized pretty quickly it was a damn slick hack. Ask, and ye shall receive. Even from me.

--Dan

Dan... (2, Funny)

evenprime (324363) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496912)

Microsoft's email client caused some people on the wireless network almost as much grief during blackhat this year. ;-)

-Joey

Re:They cheated us. (1)

BasharTeg (71923) | more than 12 years ago | (#2497349)

Yeah it pissed us off too, that you were dumb enough to give away that many points to GH. However, since Digital Revelation merged with Ghetto Hackers, those turned out to be our points anyway. Since we only won by something like 10 points, thanks for the freebie. :)

Ghetto Hackers + Digial Revelation = 0wned CTF 2001

Re:They cheated us. (2)

Derek Pomery (2028) | more than 12 years ago | (#2497607)

What morons would ever check their e-mail on someone else's computer at a "hacker" convention?
1:9 there is a keystroke logger in place.

Granted, you were asking for it by not having /flag.txt be -rw------- 1 root root

Oh, wait. Was that a C: ? };->

Re:They cheated us. (1)

starfighter_org (530923) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496996)

This year there was a guy inside a server cabinet waiting to come out in the middle of the night to own all the machines in the server room. A last minute change in server locations blew it for them. Sadly, I've forgotten who did it.

Re:They cheated us. (1)

Rizz0 (101760) | more than 12 years ago | (#2497549)

Actually, that was us (Ghettohackers). Under our interpretation of the previous year's rules, Physical penetration of the NOC was allowable. In fact, we managed a capture at DC8 by SE'ing a guard into letting one of our members in (CIR), who then rooted from the console. Unfortunately, with the rule change this past year, that went right out the window.

la, la, la (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496250)

I know nothing about this subject but I feel that I have to comment anyway to get the discussion going: Linux is gay, MS rules etc.

Been there, done that. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496257)

Linus and Ximian's Miguel came to an agreement to include Gnome inside the 2.5.x series, so once you boot the 45MB kernel you'll be ready to use your desktop, no more waits, everything runs at kernel level with the use of DirectFB. Alas, with tihs kind of kernels security will go down the drain, making it possible for every 13 year old script kiddie to enter your system with a 5 line perl script that has already been written. This script takes advantage of a very serious security flaw in Gnome's CORBA implementantion, where any user can execure arbitrary code on a remote machine. When asked about it, Linus just said : I don't care.

RMS on the other hand told tihs reporter that HURD doesn't have this problem since it runs all servers at user level. Of course, no one except HURD developers use it.

When told about this statement Linus said : Read my previous answer, I don't care about RMS, as I didn't care about AST back in time when I ripped off Minix (formerly known as BoumOS, Mike Bouma's OS) to build Linux (formerly known as Freax)

Sincerely, Mike Bouma

Banned? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496260)

I was downloading p0rn. Then I fell asleep but after I fell asleep, my NT box crashed! After 2 hours when I woke up I see me NT box and it had come back to normal ?!?!?!? I downloaded some more p0rn. Then I start looking into logfiles 'n stuff. I was looking through theregistry and I see this virus. I take it in the scanner, nuthin. I was giving up but for a last chance I place it under a different angle. And then I see some tiny letters on it. I magnify that and it sais:
Posted by theCmdr [struct.hq] on
from the emergency-urgent-dept.

Alert! : `The General is requested to proceed to, dinning room [concentrationpoint1] or The Grand Oak Tree [unitcenter1] as soon as possible. Full cooperation is requested. We have an Emergency Situation [stdprocedures]. Alert! All units report [hq]. Guests should remain at the spot.

( Read More... [reports.hq])

But by now everybody knew that the general was probably already dead.

I didn't totally discard my thought to go directly for fp though. I felt I was involved in this and my fp would raise suspicions so I stayed in my chair frozen, until the end of this story.

Wha? You expect an end?

-- Bloody Bastard

Site is slashdotted (almost), so here are mirrors. (5, Informative)

thesolo (131008) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496266)

Well, since the site is getting hit pretty hard, here is a direct link to all the mirrors:

Capture the Capture The Flag Mirrors

If you have a mirror up, please let me [mailto] know.

If you're using wget to pull the data, please use the following command:
&nbspwget -r -nd --no-parent -R "=A","=D" http://site/path/

US - Wisconsin (100Mbit):
http://www.wi2600.org/mediawhore/mirrors/shmoo/cct f-defcon9 [wi2600.org]

US - Colorado (100Mbit):
http://www.ucar.edu/temp/shmoo-defcon9-ctf/ [ucar.edu]

US - Pennsylvania (T1):
http://www.bitsend.com/defcon9-cctf [bitsend.com]

US - Alaska (DSL):
http://cctf1.shmoo.com [shmoo.com]

Please be sure to read the license [slashdot.org].

Re:Site is slashdotted (almost), so here are mirro (2)

ConsumedByTV (243497) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496298)

Their site may be but I got a blazingly fast 11.9 MB PER SECOND!

It feels damn good to take over a 1/10 of a major pipe :)

Re:Site is slashdotted (almost), so here are mirro (1)

Procrasti (459372) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496384)

Looks like a great case for using something like SwarmCast.

On a completely offtopic note, a swarmcast like system would work great with the P2P file sharing programs, would it?

Re:Site is slashdotted (almost), so here are mirro (1, Offtopic)

Peridriga (308995) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496685)

Odd question?...
But, for a free site that simply runs off banner ads and donations

Why does Slashdot never get Slashdotted?

Sorry just had to ask....

Re:Site is slashdotted (almost), so here are mirro (1)

ghostlibrary (450718) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496815)

>Why does Slashdot never get Slashdotted?

To steal from Yogi Berra, because "no one reads Slashdot anymore, it's too popular."

Besides, we're all too busy slashdotting the other sites to spend time here :)

Re:Site is slashdotted (almost), so here are mirro (1)

Charm (313273) | more than 12 years ago | (#2497195)

Actually it did during the sept WTC attacks. Slashdot was virtually unuseable. CNN was better.

Re:Site is slashdotted (almost), so here are mirro (1)

Jaeger (2722) | more than 12 years ago | (#2497309)

Actually it did during the sept WTC attacks. Slashdot was virtually unuseable. CNN was better.
Not for any definition of better I'm familiar with. When I checked cnn.com at 10:30 EDT that morning, I couldn't even get in the gate. I had to hop over the pond to bbc.co.uk to get my news, and even then half the images didn't load. cnn.com rebounded by noon with a no-graphics, single-page site, but even at that time Slashdot was serving huge, dynamically-generated pages without much trouble.

Re:Site is slashdotted (almost), so here are mirro (2)

Alan (347) | more than 12 years ago | (#2497325)

I think you mean "a free site that simply runs off banner ads and donations" ... but is backed by a large linux company (VA) that has lots of ca$h money to throw at popular linux "products" such as /. for servers and whatnot.

Yes, but maybe.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496267)

This is all swell. But the SPARCs have an undeniable advantage.
That is their BIG ENDIAN architecture, as opposed to the LITTLE ENDIAN of
i80x86.

So the functions:
htonl() : host to network byte order
and ntohl () : network to host byte order
* See "man htonl"

In the SPARCs don't do nothing! No conversion needed.

So as statistics have shown [1] those byte order conversions usually
take 60% of an application's time (and in special cases this rises
up to 99% [2]). A big loss.

This is why DotComs prefer SUNs. A clear advantage to those interested
in network performance.

What I do not like is that streams (like MP3 of MPEG), too need an
architecture independant byte ordering. And BIG ENDIAN seems to be
winning on this one. So it is a fact that MP3 needs ntoh() to extract
values from it. When an MP3 stream is uncompressed there are *lots*
of ntoh() calls (believe me!).

I don't understand why the h*ll Microsoft does not do anything
towards LITTLE ENDIAN in bit-streams. Afterall Microsoft products
are aimed towards i80x86 owners. Some people are lying to us.

Anybody knows more?

Don't flame me.

[1] A. Shamir, B. J. Poag. IEEE Transactions on information theory, v. IT-28, n. 6,
Nov 1998, pp. 865-868
[2] A. Shamir, K. Johnson, J. Epstein. Proceedings of the 27th IEEE Symposium on the
Foundations of Computer Science, 1999, pp. 145-152

Re:Yes, but maybe.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496276)

Sparc cpus are expensive, and provide piss poor floating point performance, that's when they do not lock up. I've seen lots of enterprise class servers (read, E6500 and up) lock hard due to the USIIi e-cache bug. 3 out of 10 cpus manufactured by IBM had this problem, with the Sony made ones it got down to 1-2 out of 10. All Sun said is, is your kernel patch level 23? (for Solaris 2.6) So you patched you kernel and used the cache scrubber, but even with that you shiny E10k you just lock hard whenever it pleased him. Sun used to make cool hardware, nowadays they have a mediocre OS and slow processors, big deal.


Go buy an IBM or HP server, better hardware for less money.


Sincerely, Mike Bouma

Bandwith Endowed (1)

JohnHegarty (453016) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496270)

'sploit ridden, 5.8GB of intrusion collusion ever published. Free for the bandwidth endowed'

You would need alot of and bandwidth and evan more time on your hand to evan start on.

Now , let my see ... on a 56k modem ,(if my math is correct) , then thats about 10 days...

Re:Bandwith Endowed (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496379)

Assuming you get a steady 5.0 kbps from your connection, it would take 13.4259259 days to complete a download of 5.8GB. Your math was wrong, fuckhead.

Re:Bandwith Endowed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2498429)

did you take into account that most phone companies disconnect lines after 12 hours? so unless you had some kind of redialer, you'd have to be there to reconnect. and that's assuming you have a resumable server to connect to.

Well I hope they Capture the Slashdot Effect. (3, Funny)

Raindeer (104129) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496271)

Putting a couple of Gigs data on the net and then having the bad luck to be posted on Slashdot is going to mean that their link will be unreachable for most of the day. :-) But hey it will probably make for neat graphs.

Re:Well I hope they Capture the Slashdot Effect. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496280)

Could the person who modded that up as funny please explain why? I would of thought that redundant was the only way to go, given that every article attached to a download gets a least one of these comments, usually dozens.

Re:Well I hope they Capture the Slashdot Effect. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496322)

Another mod point as funny? It is obvious that this "troll tuesday" or whatever it is called only applies to the moderators and IHBT. I mean honestly, is this the only comment in this forum which is worthy of being modded up, or do you just browse at +3 and it is the only one you see? I think you ought to reread the moderaters faq, especially that part which says "View at -1, oldest first to check for abuses".

give me a sting bean! (-1)

cmdr_shithead (527909) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496274)

I'm a hungry man!

Re:give me a sting bean! (-1)

Genghis Troll (158585) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496319)

Some time ago a crazy dream came to me,
I dreamt I was walkin' into World War Three,
I went to the doctor the very next day
To see what kinda words he could say.
He said it was a bad dream.
I wouldn't worry 'bout it none, though,
They were my own dreams and they're only in my head.

I said, "Hold it, Doc, a World War passed through my brain."
He said, "Nurse, get your pad, this boy's insane,"
He grabbed my arm, I said "Ouch!"
As I landed on the psychiatric couch,
He said, "Tell me about it."

Well, the whole thing started at 3 o'clock fast,
It was all over by quarter past.
I was down in the sewer with some little lover
When I peeked out from a manhole cover
Wondering who turned the lights on.

Well, I got up and walked around
And up and down the lonesome town.
I stood a-wondering which way to go,
I lit a cigarette on a parking meter
And walked on down the road.
It was a normal day.

Well, I rung the fallout shelter bell
And I leaned my head and I gave a yell,
"Give me a string bean, I'm a hungry man."
A shotgun fired and away I ran.
I don't blame them too much though,
I know I look funny.

Down at the corner by a hot-dog stand
I seen a man, I said, "Howdy friend,
I guess there's just us two."
He screamed a bit and away he flew.
Thought I was a Communist.

Well, I spied a girl and before she could leave,
"Let's go and play Adam and Eve."
I took her by the hand and my heart it was thumpin'
When she said, "Hey man, you crazy or sumpin',
You see what happened last time they started."

Well, I seen a Cadillac window uptown
And there was nobody aroun',
I got into the driver's seat
And I drove 42nd Street
In my Cadillac.
Good car to drive after a war.

Well, I remember seein' some ad,
So I turned on my Conelrad.
But I didn't pay my Con Ed bill,
So the radio didn't work so well.
Turned on my player-
It was Rock-A-Day, Johnny singin',
"Tell Your Ma, Tell Your Pa,
Our Loves Are Gonna Grow Ooh-wah, Ooh-wah."

I was feelin' kinda lonesome and blue,
I needed somebody to talk to.
So I called up the operator of time
Just to hear a voice of some kind.
"When you hear the beep
It will be three o'clock,"
She said that for over an hour
And I hung it up.

Well, the doctor interrupted me just about then,
Sayin, "Hey I've been havin' the same old dreams,
But mine was a little different you see.
I dreamt that the only person left after the war was me.
I didn't see you around."

Well, now time passed and now it seems
Everybody's having them dreams.
Everybody sees themselves walkin' around with no one else.
Half of the people can be part right all of the time,
Some of the people can be all right part of the time.
I think Abraham Lincoln said that.
"I'll let you be in my dreams if I can be in yours,"
I said that

Co. Robert Zimmerman, the greatest Jew since Spinoza

Bandwidth Cost (2, Interesting)

JohnHegarty (453016) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496275)

How are they going to pay for the bandwidth cos on this...if evan just 1000 people download it (and it has been slashdotted) then it will 5.8 Terabytes of information to be downloaded.

This won't exaclty be payed for by a banner ad.

Re:Bandwidth Cost (4, Funny)

Lozzer (141543) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496281)

Did you read who these people are? I don't expect acquiring bandwidth is much of a problem, if you know what I mean.

Re:Bandwidth Cost (1)

JohnHegarty (453016) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496294)

Evan bill gates pays by the gb of bandwidth.....no as much as us... but its not free....

Re:Bandwidth Cost (1)

davidesh (316537) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496414)

or you could just get some clear-channel DS3's from a Tier-1 provider...
who say's everyone pays by the GB ?

Re:Bandwidth Cost (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2498210)

If you look at some of the mirrors posted, they are on 100Mbit connections. They are also university connections, i.e. on Internet2, and I2 has no shortage of bandwidth. They will probably be OK, considering that most people have no use for several GB of packet dumps anyway.

Social engineering is the way forward (1, Offtopic)

Anton Anatopopov (529711) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496288)

In the dim and distant past, before I became 'respectable' I used to be a hacker wannabe. I used to use my 1200 baud modem to dial into various systems, and lets just say, that had the law been the same then as it is now, I could have been arrested.

But after I became involved in tech support for major financial institutions, I realised that although security there was reasonably good, you could almost always circumvent it via social engineering.

My favorite trick to get into the server room was to put on an old hard-hat and a fluorescent jacket. I would stand outside the door until someone came along, then I would simply ask them to let me in. Which about 70% of the time, they did. At which point, I would point out to them that I could have been anyone, usually got an embarassed apology.

I was using social engineering to raise the security awareness of staff, but it was a real eye-opener to me just how easy it was to control people.

Re:Social engineering is the way forward (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496361)

My favorite trick to get into the server room was to put on an old hard-hat and a fluorescent jacket.

Yes, my favorite way to get into the server room is to dress up as a member of the Village People, and then wait for some random person to agree to take me into the closet.

Re:Social engineering is the way forward (1)

MrFredBloggs (529276) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496437)

"I was using social engineering"

You mean lying, right?

Re:Social engineering is the way forward (1)

osiris (30004) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496882)

social engineering is lying. just lying very convincingly to fool others. making others think that you are someone you are not.

its not like you are gonna say "uh, i dont work here, but could you give me access to the server room" of course your gonna lie.

Re:Social engineering is the way forward (2)

well_jung (462688) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496909)

I find most SysAdmins got their jobs by "Social Engineering" during the interview.

My experience (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496299)

In the dim and distant past, before I became 'respectable' I used to be a haxor wannabe. I used to use my 300 baud modem to dial into various systems, and lets just say, that had the law been the same then as it is now, I could have been arrested.
But after I became involved in tech support for major financial institutions, I realised that although security there was reasonably good, you could almost always circumvent it via social engineering.

My favorite trick to get into the server room was to put on an old hard-hat and a fluorescent jacket. I would stand outside the door until someone came along, then I would simply ask them to let me in. Which about 70% of the time, they did. At which point, I would point out to them that I could have been anyone, usually got an embarassed apology.

I was using social engineering to raise the security awareness of staff, but it was a real eye-opener to me just how easy it was to control people.

Re:My experience (-1)

Genghis Troll (158585) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496323)

You sound pretty cool, almost as cool as Anton Anatopopov, but he had a 1200 baud modem. Also, he said he would suck my cock, which is really cool. Will you?

It's good (-1)

The WIPO Troll (267426) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496301)

I like to braid my crotch hairs on Taco's face.
How 'bout you?

Re:It's good (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496385)

I like to braid my pubes and taco's facial hair together. That always makes for good conversation at the parties! Great way to break the ice with the ladies. "Hey, wanna see what I got latched onto my dick? Its a flaming moron!"

Mirror in the making (3, Informative)

siliconincdotnet (525118) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496304)

Mirror in the making at http://deimos.siliconinc.net/cctf

Its currently chugging away at about 250 kbps, so it should be done within a few hours. There is already 1+ gig of data up there for your browsing pleasure, and its chugging away at around 250kbps. Enjoy. If it breaks email me or something.

Re:Mirror in the making (-1)

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Traces collected using ?? (1)

fasuin (532942) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496308)

Tcpdump? or what else?

Re:Traces collected using ?? (-1)

Genghis Troll (158585) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496346)

Hi,

Thanks for your interest in our project. We collected the traces using a home-brewed app that makes use of libpcap. It was quite a scene, indeed.

Not the boring packet capturing, mind you, but the crazed orgy of relentless ass-reaming that went on while those 6 gigs were being dumped. For every packet that ended up in our logs, I'd venture to say that ten spurts of sweet, sweet, salty semen landed in one orifice or another. Who knows how much of the precious stuff was left behind on the convention floors, walls, and ceiling?

Come on by next year, we'll show you the packet logger, and then gang rape you with our platoon of unwashed geek dicks. Your ass will bleed like Queen Kong's giant ape pussy when it's "that time of the month", har har har.

Thank you, again, for your interest in our project. We're queer, we're here, we're ass-raping haxor nerds! Also, fuck you, you stupid italian cocksucker dipshit cunt.

The DefCon Team

hackers (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496328)

fucking suck.

n-ctf sucked this year, I hear... (2, Interesting)

Gainax (127325) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496335)

from what I hear, n-ctf SUCKED this year...

From a friend whom was on one of the teams:

We set up some 'reflectors', using the MIRROR target of the Linux netfilter and almost got booted of the net by the judges for this unique solution.

Bleh.

w00t w00t w00t! (-1)

cmdr_shithead (527909) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496338)

IMPORTANT!! PLEASE READ: THIS JUST IN!!!

How many roads must a man walk down
Before you call him a man?
How many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand?
Yes, 'n' how many times must the cannon balls fly
Before they're forever banned?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

How many years can a mountain exist
Before it's washed to the sea?
Yes, 'n' how many years can some people exist
Before they're allowed to be free?
Yes, 'n' how many times can a man turn his head,
Pretending he just doesn't see?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

How many times must a man look up
Before he can see the sky?
Yes, 'n' how many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry?
Yes, 'n' how many deaths will it take till he knows
That too many people have died?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

I am a great lover (-1)

cmdr_shithead (527909) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496350)

... of goats! Also John Ashcroft. He's dreamy.

Re:I am a great lover (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2496392)

shithead


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a bit of hyperbole (2)

evenprime (324363) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496376)

The Shmoo Group diligently logs
every[*] packet for posterity

I don't know about defcon 9 (2001), but I seem to recall them only being able to get part of the traffic at defcon 8 (2000).

[*] my emphasis, not theirs

Re:a bit of hyperbole (1)

pablos (122458) | more than 12 years ago | (#2498419)

True, the entropy of the CTF network architecture each year, is roughly equal to that of the entire internet. We had a tough time getting everything at DEF CON 8. The DEF CON 9 capture is certainly much better, but we're bound to have missed some bits here and there. Also, as other posts have pointed out, the contest had a very strange design which allowed flag hosts to come up and down faster than an MTV weened script kiddie's attention span could track. We're expecting the DEF CON 10 CTF, hosted by the Ghetto Hackers will improve capture possibilities a great dea. - pablos.

even better (5, Insightful)

evenprime (324363) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496395)

the shmoo group's data gives an idea of the type of attack tools that are most commonly used in intrusion attempts, but if you want to know the tools and techniques that are the most likely to succeed, it would be good to talk to Caezar [caezarschallenge.org] or some other member of the ghettohackers [ghettohackers.net]. After all, they are the ones who win at capture the flag year after year....

Re:even better (2, Informative)

BasharTeg (71923) | more than 12 years ago | (#2497395)

Don't forget this year it wasn't just GH. I certainly had my share of points in the final score. This year I was running under the flag of Digital Revelation, although that's not my group. The final team was Ghetto Hackers merged with Digital Revelation, and without our admin points, GH wouldn't have won. It was a real team effort.


Here's some pics:


My speech on behalf of Digital Revelation [irev.net]
Ceazar's speech on behalf of GH [irev.net]


And damn it was alot of fun this year.

Is there any commentary on the 5.8GB (1)

totierne (56891) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496403)

Call me lazy (I am) is there a summary or commentary on all that raw information that can show us hacks attempted, both successful and unsuccessful. It even gives some hacker some reflected flame at deciphering and commenting on the information. If I was considerably less lazy I might do it myself.

Greed is Good - 1980's
Lazy is Good - 2001

Re:Is there any commentary on the 5.8GB (-1)

Genghis Troll (158585) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496467)

These are the best I've found so far. I expect that CNN will have something up in a couple hours, as well, heh heh heh.

MegaMutt Pubs PDF overview [mnmpublishing.com]
Arktrash summary (short) [arktrash.com]
SkEwSkIn [skewskin.com] (just a blurb in the news there)
Gamberro [gamberro.com], bad English translation, but probably the most thorough of all these.

Article's title (1)

codeButcher (223668) | more than 12 years ago | (#2496674)

<P>I suppose that would then be "Metacapturing the Flag".
<P><H3>This useless comment was generated by a Cockpitful of Suicidal Fanatics for you</H3>

CTF Rules (5, Interesting)

Rizz0 (101760) | more than 12 years ago | (#2497657)

The rules for CTF at DC9 were, unfortunately, not well tested prior to the actual event. The intent of the rules were to provide more targets to attack, by shifting the burden of providing targets to the competitors. However, with the rules as written at the beginning of the contest, it turned out to be (pointwise) not worth attempting to hack. The net effect of the rules were that most groups were simply putting up a server, getting the points and pulling it down. While this is a valid strategy for that ruleset, it doesn't make for much of a hacking competition. This constant churning of servers also made hacking difficult, with targets disappearing by the time you could identify them through the standard CTF network instability.

We (the GhettoHackers, with the much appreciated help of Jennifer Grannick) managed to slowly, over the course of the competition, convince Miles to change the rules to a set more conductive to an actual hacking competition. When teams began merging due to the rule changes, we merged with Digital Revelation, to both group's benefit. We gained their server points, and they gained our capture points.

Besides winning CTF, the GhettoHackers / Digital Revelation team also had the highest average Blood Alcohol Level of any group (check out http://cow.pasture.com/~tcroc for more details). As announced at the awards ceremony, we, the GhettoHackers, have retired from CTF after DC9. To help foster more competiton, and for a different application of our expertise, the GhettoHackers will be helping to run CTF at DC10.

slight overestimate (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2497749)

"this is the ultimate IDS testbed."

No, it really isn't. Read up on the cluefull folk's take on tiger teams. Tiger teams are not the ultimate test of if your box is hackable or not. Tiger teams are the ultimate test of if said team can hack your box. There is a distinct difference. Similarly, the capture the flag data only documents a select number of hacker's techniques.

You can't predict what hackers will do. You can only be cautious.
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