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XBox Released

michael posted more than 12 years ago | from the doing-our-part-to-contribute-to-hype dept.

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Gallowglass writes: "Salon has written a review of the Xbox which damns with extremely faint praise." There was a big hoopla in Times Square last night, but apparently no one pied Bill Gates. So, for all you poor souls who lined up to give money to the borg: does it work? Any blue-screens yet? :) Update: 11/15 15:23 GMT by M : Okay, I'm sorry. That's green screen of death, not blue screen.

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First@! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568584)

Heh! Doh I forgot my password..


700Mhz Pong Machine (4, Funny)

-douggy (316782) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568585)

Can I play pong on it? If Not why not?

Re:700Mhz Pong Machine (1)

SPYvSPY (166790) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568721)

You can play Pong on Dreamcast (which costs about $79 these days). Or on your PC. No need for XBOX!

Re:700Mhz Pong Machine (1)

Midnight Thunder (17205) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568752)

At least with a PC you get the warm feeling that you paied even more to play pong. All those cycles to waste :)

anyone else reminded of batman... (4, Funny)

gergi (220700) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568592)

The movie with the Riddler? Where he creates these boxes that sit on your TV and take over your thoughts? Are we sure that was Jim Carrey and not Bill Gates in that costume? :)

Microsoft: "What do you want to think today?"

Re:anyone else reminded of batman... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568671)

I'm not even slightly reminded of this.

Re:anyone else reminded of batman... (-1)

Guns n' Roses Troll (207208) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568722)

I hope you die slowly; nigger cocks jackhammering your puckered asshole over and over and over until gallons of semen flow from your eyesockets.

YES! (2, Funny)

Nerftoe (74385) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568728)

Where he creates these boxes that sit on your TV and take over your thoughts?

That neon green Xbox logo sends out microwave pulsations to your brain to the beat of the Madonna song played on the WinXP commercials. Mysteriously, on our next visit to Best Buy, you pick up a copy of WinXP:

Wife: Honey, I thought you only ran Linux?
You: Microsoft for life, babe.

Hehe (0, Troll)

natefanaro (304646) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568593)

Yea, I can't wait to see all the pissed off kids faces when their XBox crashed in the middle of a game. My Nintendo never had that problem!

Re:Hehe (4, Informative)

SilentChris (452960) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568670)

Um, and the XBox won't. The crashing thing is an urban myth supplemented with pre-launch stories of bad demo CD's crashing (which MS completely reissued).

But if you like FUD, let it flow...

Re:Hehe (1)

ergo98 (9391) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568729)

And on top of that, software faults are generally in direct proportion to the complexity of the software (barring some revolutionary software development technologies). I would not be surprized if there were some little faults hidden in the XBox just because it's that complex of a device, and it isn't of much merit for people to run in and claim that their Pong machine never crashed.

Re:Hehe (2, Informative)

SuiteSisterMary (123932) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568678)

Well, for the N64 at least, Goldeneye had crash bugs. Turok (both, I think) had crash bugs. Zelda:OOT had crash bugs.

Crashing Nintendo (1)

nuxx (10153) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568686)

I remember when I had Iron Tank for the NES. There's one point where if you take the route to the left the game will ALWAYS lock hard as soon as you drive your tank over a specific point. Not Nintendo's fault of course, but irritating none the less. Especially with no way to patch it.


Re:Hehe (1)

jdgreen7 (524066) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568737)

I never had my Nintendo crash during a game, but remember having to blow into the cartridges (because kids don't worry about getting real cleaners)? It used to take 6 or 7 tries before Super Mario Bros. would load up. But, I kept playing anyway.

Crashes during games would probably upset more people than crashes before games, I suppose. We'll see how it pans out.

No GTA3...... (1, Flamebait)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568595)

If the Xbox does not have GTA3 then it is not worth the money.....besides, we all know that it takes MS 3 times to get it right....to bad that in the console market a 3rd time can take you 10 years to get to....by then the Xbox will have been stomped on by PS5

Re:No GTA3...... (2, Informative)

Hegemony Cricket (257177) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568607)

GTA3 is coming to XBox according to Rockstar games :-)

Damn (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568598)

First post also released already !!

I withhold judgement until I PLAY it... (4, Informative)

Drizzten (459420) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568599)

I own a PS2 and am quite happy with it. However, I plan on keeping an open mind about the Xbox and the GameCube. Anyone else remember the damning the SNES got when it first came out? And how popular did it get?

Thank you for.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568617)

..saying nothing useful.
But it's an early post, always worth a shot !

Re:I withhold judgement until I PLAY it... (1)

SlamMan (221834) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568636)

Actually, I don't. My associates and I thought that it was pretty sweet.

Grantd, I was about 12, and it had Super Metroid.

Re:I withhold judgement until I PLAY it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568713)

Super metroid didn't come out for a LONG time after the SNES. I doubt you used Super Metroid as a gauge on the SNES at launch time...

Re:I withhold judgement until I PLAY it... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568647)

I damned the SNES purely on gaming performance. There were far superior machines at the time, but to many people could not resist the mindless, cartoon games that nintendo is famous for. I still have my trusty 3DO, and wish I still had my Jaguar. I never got to own a Neo Geo :-(

Re:I withhold judgement until I PLAY it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568694)

it seems to me you take a liking to what are widely considered the most failed machines of all time. is this a theme in your life?

Re:I withhold judgement until I PLAY it... (1)

snoozer20001 (513148) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568688)

I loved the SNES when it came out... If I remember right, I had it hooked up right next to my commodore 64! The SNES looked very good next to the old C64.

another news article (5, Informative)

osiris (30004) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568602)

the register [theregister.co.uk] is also carrying a story about this. it talks about the uk release date as well as containing links to sites with more info on where to buy it and where you can test them out.

For a different perspective... (5, Informative)

mblase (200735) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568605)

...take a look at C|Net's review [cnet.com] of Microsoft's strategies with the Xbox. Bottom line of their article is that Microsoft has had to put on a completely different face to court developers for their game console, switching from monopolistic tyrant to play-nice we-want-to-help-you-succeed hardware investor. According to the quotes cited, it's worked, too. So far.

Re:For a different perspective... (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568749)

did it ever occur to you that they would want their developers to succeed? successful developers make good games, which sells systems. not to mention that gamers get to play fun stuff, so everyone wins. is this some sort of evil plot, or just smart economics?

When to buy (0, Offtopic)

Lysander Luddite (64349) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568610)

I'll buy an X-Box when you pry cash into my cold, dead hands.

Re:When to buy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568745)

I read that ms will be loosing money on the sale of the xbox hardware, so i was thinking of buying one (and taking some of bills money) and turning into a linux machine of some sort.

XBOX advertisement blitz (1)

Green Light (32766) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568611)

Last night, here in Columbus, they started advertising the games pretty heavily. I saw ads for "Halo", among others.
I don't know if it was just because of my cheap tube, but the images shown were a bit "grainy". Not exactly what I was expecting from a 21st-century gaming console.

Re:XBOX advertisement blitz (2)

IRNI (5906) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568676)

Yeah I was watching tv last night and saw about 20 commercials for halo and odd world. But you know what seems funny to me? Am I the only one that notices that the commercials show the CG and not so much the gameplay? Isn't this the ultimate form of false advertising? People are going to think that the gameplay looks that good. I played an XBOX in virgin superstore in New Orleans this weekend. The game on it (some football game) looked like nothing special. Like sega dreamcast even. And the controller looks like someone went nuts with a beadazzeler on a hunk of plastic. Rhinestone buttons. How ghey.

Re:XBOX advertisement blitz (1)

bonk (13623) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568696)

Eh, remember the commercials for diablo2? All they showed were the cutscenes.

By the way, I saw a commercial for halo, it looked like they were showing in-game sequences, not cutscenes.

Re:XBOX advertisement blitz (5, Informative)

SilentChris (452960) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568715)

All of Halo's graphics are done in-engine. As are Project Gotham: Racing. And Dead or Alive 3. Only Munch's Oddysee showed pre-rendered CG in the commercial.

Kindly get your facts straight.

Hoopla indeed. (1)

Nijika (525558) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568612)

Microsoft is acting like a) their entire future is riding on this thing and b) it's the greatest thing since the condom.

People are going to find out pretty fast that it's a PC in dressup. Gimme a PS2 and some evil GTA3 action any day. I'll just go ahead and get a better video card for my existing PC...

Re:Hoopla indeed. (4, Interesting)

reachinmark (536719) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568649)

Microsoft is acting like a) their entire future is riding on this thing

But it is essentially.. at least, according to Cringley, it's the expansion into new areas like gaming consoles that Microsoft desperately needs in order to keep growing at the necessary rate to avoid going bankrupt.

Look at it from a positive consumer viewpoint -- as previous slashdoters have mentioned, Microsoft are essentially selling a half-decent PC at below cost. Get yerself an X-Box, get Linux running on it, and have a good laugh at them.

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! (0, Flamebait)

until(0) (533975) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568624)

Now Gate's will finally understand failure!!!!

Re:HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! (2, Troll)

Brento (26177) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568637)

Now Gate's will finally understand failure!!!!

Oh, that's not fair. He understands it, alright. I've got one word for you: "Bob".

Re:HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! (2)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568672)

that was more an Idea from gates wife that from him. so realy, he has never had an idea that failed.....mmostly because he would push it and keep pushing it by way of brute force until enough people got the idea and wanted it.

jeeze (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568625)

"So, for all you poor souls who lined up to give money to the borg: does it work? Any blue-screens yet?"

fuck you alright, if you dont like it, get to work on the linbox game console or STFU. oh yea, thats right, linux SUCKS for anything but running apache

Salon review written by a jaded man (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568629)

who obviously never got a free XBox from Bill, but did get his dick sucked by Sony.

A PS2 with different games (4, Troll)

Junks Jerzey (54586) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568631)

I have it. I've played it. The bottom line at the moment is: *shrug*. It's extremely difficult to see how this is any different than a PlayStation 2. If you're expecting something miles beyond the PS2, then you'll be disappointed. From my point of view it's a PS2 with different games.

Halo is Yet Another First Person Shooter. I was expecting something revolutionary. Don't get me wrong, it's fun just like Half-Life and friends are fun, but it's simply other game of that style. It isn't a great leap forward. Arguably it isn't any leap forward.

Re:A PS2 with different games (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568692)

If it's a PS2 with different games already, consider what it'll be like once developers get up to speed. Think about when the PS2 first came out -- many people said it was simply a Dreamcast with different games; only now are the differences in power and capabilities beginning to show...

Re:A PS2 with different games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568751)

Yup. Now it's apparent that the Dreamcast was a far better piece of kit.

Re:A PS2 with different games (1)

rogue420007 (523337) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568698)

finally, someone who's not a 15 yr old MS flamer. thx for the info Going to pick mine up asap.

Sad, sad commentary (5, Interesting)

SilentChris (452960) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568634)

I personally sent a few stories Slashdot's way (including numerous discussions on hacking the Box) and apparently noone thought them worthy.

The problem here is that people instantly lambash the box without thinking of the ramifications. Basically:

- It's a strong PC with great graphics. In the living room. The centerpiece of the family community.
- It is a console to actually push competition and strengthen games. Other consoles from here on out are going to have to consider putting an ethernet card on board. Or a hard drive. Competition is always good (even non-franchise reliant Sony is getting stale at this point).
- It's just another system. It's not the antichrist. Bill Gates personally doesn't take a cut on each box (in fact, cuts are probably taken out of HIM).

Let's think about that first one a good deal. A real PC. In the living room of thousands of people -- people, additionally, who wouldn't have thought of putting a PC in their living room. Why doesn't this get more people excited? It does for me. Naysayers like to tout X-Filish conspiracy theories about MS owning the world. It's not going to happen. Other companies are going to expand, reject, and strengthen parts of the box with 3rd party peripherals and software. The dream of having some kind of decent server in everyone's house will finally be realized.

Even if you completely reject the box and all it's strong points, you've got to admit THE CONVERSATION IS GOOD. Unfortunately, even with a thousand comments, Slashdot editors won't learn that this is one of the things we want to talk about. And quite frankly, I still like to follow the average Slashdotter's opinion over hype.

MOD PARENT UP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568674)

This guy brings up a great point. He is not trolling, and he hasn't been rated in order to be rated as overrated... remember, you're supposed to mod UNBIASED.

Re:Sad, sad commentary (1, Flamebait)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568705)

so will this finaly make apple drop its prices since they will not be the only closed home PC system in town anymore :-)

I played one at a kiosk (0, Troll)

Calle Ballz (238584) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568638)

I played Halo. I only played the first level. I was not impressed. The graphics were sub-par, for a geforce3 I was expecting a LOT more. It froze for a few seconds every time you walked into a new room to 'load' the remainding part of the map. The enemies were stupid.

On top of all this, how are you supposed to control a FPS with your thumb? FPS games were meant for computers, not consoles. (except goldenye... that game RULED)

why so negative towards xbox? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568639)

Almost every article on the Xbox I see on Slashdot is slanted against them. The Gamecube gets much more coverage and not the nasty slashdot commentary along with the story.

Is this my imagination, or does slashdot take its anti-microsoft bias into everything they do?

I mean really, linking the xbox release with one totally negative article, while other sites have given it a much better outlook.

Please try to be fair here slashdot.

Re:why so negative towards xbox? (1, Offtopic)

revscat (35618) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568681)

I mean really, linking the xbox release with one totally negative article, while other sites have given it a much better outlook. Please try to be fair here slashdot.

BWAHAHAHAHA! Asking /. to be fair and balanced when dealing with M$-related things is like asking Rush Limbaugh to stop parroting Republican dogma: i.e., it just won't happen.

Nitpicking. (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568642)

XBox's crash screens are Green, not blue. Unless that was a change.

XBox, Colecovision and 3DO M2 all prove that muscle != success.

Linux on xbox (0)

invisik (227250) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568648)

Can you run Linux on it? It's basically a PC, right? Why not. Bill would enjoy knowing it ran Linux.


X-Box FUD, No! PS-2 Linux, Yes! (1)

Mentifex (187202) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568651)

Microsoft always spreads fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) well in advance of its lame products, so as to dissuade early adopters from buying a truly excellent product such as Ken Kutaragi's Play Station Two with the Emotion Engine CPU chip. Now that an outside-Japan Linux add-on has been spoken of but not yet offered for sale, it is worthwhile to avoid the probably boring X-Box and wait for an awesome Play Station Two serving as an Internet-ready Linux workstation and DVD-player.

Yboy (1)

crumbz (41803) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568652)

So should I upgrade my PS2 with the optional ethernet/HD? Do I order a new gamecube to play Luigi's Mansion? Do I contribute dollars to fatass Ballmer's checking account? If only we lived under the Taliban we wouldn't have these problems.

Hardware reviews from Salon!?? (5, Funny)

Master_Ruthless (89957) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568658)

What's next, Ars Technica's take on national health care?? Tom's Hardware celebrity gossip? If you're going to post a hardware review, you should aim a little higher than the online version of "The Nation". Surely someone that knows what they're talking about has reviewed this product?

Re:Hardware reviews from Salon!?? (5, Interesting)

32xts (163190) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568685)

Slashdot's fashion pages will be next.

The reviewer is a contributing editor for gameslice apparently, but considering gameslice has had about 10 updates in the past year, I doubt he's working very hard in that respect.

Penguins crashing through windows.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568659)

Since they ported Linux on the PS2, in theory it should be possible to put it on the X-Box with a few modifications, since it does use an x86 processor. Does anyone have any plans to release an image for it?

Re:Penguins crashing through windows.... (2, Interesting)

C0vardeAn0nim0 (232451) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568723)

X-box IRCC uses an Nvidia chipset. if NVidia sticks to it's tradition of not releasing the specs of the chips, only binary drivers, a port of linux to the X-Box is not a likelly thing to happen.

Resell Xbox games? (2, Troll)

4444444 (444444) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568663)

It just accured to me. Will M$ try to stop people from reselling Xbox games like they do when you try to resell thier software? Honest I'm not trolling I am really curious do you think they will try this? Because they won't make any money off of second hand games.

Re:Resell Xbox games? (2)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568732)

HA HA....that would be realy funny.....

Funcoland finaly gets X-Box games on the shelf for resale.....the next day the company is hit with a law suit for EULA and copyright infringment

Don't buy MGS 2 (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568664)

It's shit. Completed it in 4 hours. Fuck that.

Microsoft isn't paying for the music (1, Offtopic)

paranoic (126081) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568666)

Once again Micro$oft figures out a way to screw a new group of people. They convinced most of the bands to give them the music for free. The story is here (NYTIMES reg req.) [nytimes.com]. The bands did it for the publicity but guess what, there are no credits and you can replace the music with your own.

I saw only one... (1)

nuxx (10153) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568669)

Last night I went to a local K-Mart to do some shopping. Turns out that although the sales guy said that they had piles (I think his exact words were "tons") of Gamecubes in the back, they only had one single XBox for sale. Some guys who came in right after I did were extremely relieved that I had no interest in the XBox. I guess I should have said that for $50 I'd leave and let them have it. Oh well.


No thanks. (2)

BoarderPhreak (234086) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568675)

Not to be a flamer here, but quite honestly... I'll pass on the "Xbox," thanks.

If I wanted a PC, I would've bought one. I'd rather have the Playstation, which plays both the new AND old games, DVDs and CDs. It looks cooler, to boot.

Microsoft sure is spending a LOT of money on advertising though. I keep seeing Xbox commercials (or rather games FOR the Xbox). Judging by the pictures though, I still think the PS2 blows it away.

Re:No thanks. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568714)

Sorry, you're going to be a flamer no what you do. Look at that hair boy, and those threads!

Re:No thanks. (2)

SilentChris (452960) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568735)

"If I wanted a PC, I would've bought one."

How are you posting on an Internet site without a PC? WebTV?

Re:No thanks. (2)

BoarderPhreak (234086) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568750)

Macintosh and Sun Ultra60, for starters.

My Wintel box is an aging dual Pentium "Classic" 166MHz. I haven't booted it in about two years.

At least there's a consolation prize... (2)

Arethan (223197) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568679)

At a bare minimum, this means that we're closer to Halo will shipping for the PC & Mac. I expect they'll start porting it within the next month, if they haven't already started. Of course, they won't release it for at least half a year to a year from now, but it's a start.

It's pretty sad when I have no interest in the system itself, but find more significance in the software that will become available for other platforms shortly after it's release.

Cube (1)

nvembar (125901) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568683)

As a gamer that hearkens from the 2600 days, I am far more excited about the Gamecube than the X-Box. I can't wait to experience Miyamoto's Pikmin, SW:Rogue Squadron II, Perfect Dark, and the next Zelda (I like the 'toon look).

The problem is that the X-Box stole Halo away from the PC and, more importantly, will have Shenmue II next fall, according to IGN [ign.com].
*Sigh* It might warrant making a friend who owns an X-Box.

Ah, well. Here's hoping my Cube preorder gets shipped early.

it's all in the games (1)

posmon (516207) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568684)

their main beef seems to be the games lineup. and we all know how shit the playstation 2 had it when that first came out.

quit your fucking whining.

Networked/Linked Games (0, Flamebait)

BoarderPhreak (234086) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568693)

Another thing...

The Xbox is the only console out there without networking. What's up with that?!

Re:Networked/Linked Games (1)

bonk (13623) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568755)

Umm - I believe one of the features of the x-box is that it comes with a built-in network adapter.

Of course, I don't follow console wars that much since the demise of the Dreamcast.

X-box looks nice, somewhat large unit compared to gamecube;s small profile, but the graphics are nice, detailed and crisp (on the football game they had at bestbuy at least)

The controller is a little un-wieldly, if I were to get an X-box (my little bro wants it for christmas) I would definately buy different brand controllers.

Xbox HW Problems (1)

Matrix12 (242932) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568699)

All of the Xbox demos I have seen at various Targets (Midwest equivalent of Wal-Mart) have been locked up. Thiw was as of a couple of weeks ago. As an embedded engineer, I have always been surprised at the MTBF (is that metric work for consoles too?) of console systems. The XBox really is just Windoze and a Pentium, with some proprietary hardware thrown in; What does that equation add up to? Of course, Dreamcast was a Super-H + Windows box, and I don't remember it having painfully evident problems.


Michael, you are extremely immature (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568700)

Your comments in the story was unnnecessary and one of the most childish and immature things I have seen from you. Your anti-MS bias shines through every time.

How about trying to stick to the subject at hand? How about talking about the games, the hardware, etc? You instead try to stick it MS wherever you can. You get bitchslapped by readers everytime you say something stupid, but it doesn't seem to stop you from doing it again.

Supposedly you're an editor, but you use your power to vent every time. Please try to do your job once in awhile.

Wow... CompUSA Can Really Have an X-Box Fest Now (1)

qualera (250463) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568704)

I was in there this weekend and they had over 15 ft of shelf space dedicated to X-Box controllers. Another 5 ft dedicated to their paltry selection of X-box games. No X-Boxes of course (now they can really party!). They had their X-Box demo displayed front row of the store. I thought "well fine, its dumb to waste that much space, but its new"

Then I noticed they had both their Playstation and Playstation 2 demo machines disabled. WTF? Do you get special discounts from Micro$oft for that? Between that and their checkout monitor video displays and numerous store displays for Windows XP it was just icky.

Hard drive? (1)

NineNine (235196) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568709)

I still can't, for the life of me, figure out why a game console would have a hard drive. That just says "complexity" to me. Something I definately DON'T want from a game console. Game consoles are designed to be played after smoking a bowl and curing up in front of the TV with a bunch of munchies. Besides, hard drives fail. They fail on a regular basis. What happens when the hard drive fails ina game console? I think I'll stick with my PS2. I'm very, very happy with it.

Oh the drama!! (1)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568711)

So, for all you poor souls who lined up to give money to the borg: does it work? Any blue-screens yet?

Can we be more dramatic??
A bit biased?

How about you give the world a day or two with it before we start condemning it, k?
And don't give me that "It crashed in the demos", cause when I worked for a software store when the DC came out, it crashed plenty (and the local stores didn't have any problems).

I'm going to give MS a fair chance, like a good un-biased person :-P

PlayStation 2 is yesterdays news (1)

Western Light (533188) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568720)

I've never heard so much moaning about competition. There's an article on The Register where Kunitake Ando of Sony pretty much admits XBox dusts PS2 and that Sony is already (reluctantly) looking into PS3. Here is Japan the feeling is that the Japanese own the console gaming industry and that U.S. software (and hardware) companies are lame, lame, lame, and just don't get it. Of course, they said the same thing about Korean LCD makers a year before Samsung and friends took over the LCD industry (previously dominated by the Japanese). At least the X-box gives the U.S. software gaming industry new impetus for some fresh gaming start-ups. Why cede the gaming industry to Japan?

X-Box second edition to be released in March (2, Funny)

parliboy (233658) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568725)

(Redmond, WA) - Bill Gates, chairman of Microsoft, today announced a launch date for a second edition of the X-Box. At a press conference today, Mr. Gates described the intentions of his company in developing the Second Edition of X-Box. "The system, nicknamed 'Box the Second', or 'BS', will carry console gaming into new heights, and continue to develop the synergy that grows between computing and consoles." When pressed for specs, Mr. Gates gave a list of specifications that almost exactly matched that of the original X-Box. Except for one difference: "This one is purple."

Can you install linux on it ? (1)

bug1 (96678) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568727)

If so, ill give $1 to the first distro to supports the xbox arch.

The true potential for the XBOX (3, Insightful)

Lord_Pall (136066) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568731)

is the hardware itself..

The launch titles suck.. Rehashed fighting/racing/whatever games.. extreme sports, extreme driving, extreme first person shooters with a console controller..blech..

But what we've got is a pc.. Fast as hell nvidia chipset, hardrive, network card, dvd drive..

Tell me someone isn't going to turn that into some cool as hell hardware.. slap a bigger hardrive into, make an mp3 box.. slap an even bigger hardrive into it, turn it into a pvr..

Take it even further.. turn it into the convergence device people have been talking about for the past 10 years.. Except instead of paying 999.99 for it, buy it for 299 (or less when the price drops)..

I think as a piece of hardware its got great potential...

As a console.. well its motsos.. (More of the same old s..t)

lastly.. for your truly rabid anti-ms people..

The XBOX represents the only true way you can DIRECTLY damage microsoft through buying things.. Every unit they sell is sold at a loss.. Buy one.. Hack the hardware.. make it do stuff its not supposed to do.. And don't buy any software for it :)

Okay maybe the logic's a little spurious.. But it sounds good on paper :)

I suspect it will be luke warm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2568733)

It's not going to belly up straight away but it's not going to become the new PS2.

Really what I'm expecting to happen here in the end is the "elite gamers" who know the specs of the hardware and somehow expect that to translate in to better games are going to be shocked when the cube runs wild over them with the least amount of power and must have games (aimed at kids.. no less)

Xboox specs well but the medium is to the point where you're not going to see night and day differences on TVs between PS2 graphics and xbox (1080i might be a different story though) and it's going to come down to game play and they're the new company.

This is uncalled for. (1)

StarbuckZero (237897) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568734)

So, for all you poor souls who lined up to give money to the borg: does it work? Any blue-screens yet?

Yeah I don't like MS and I been a Linux user for 2 years not, but that don't mean I'm not going to go out and bash them left and right. Hell try out the Xbox and see if you like it. I don't like the price and the feel of most games because it's to PC like, but on the other hand I do like the joystick. When it comes to a game console it all comes down to is the games. Not what companies release the game console. Even though I would want Microsoft to get a hold the console market.

Taking money from MS (2)

A Commentor (459578) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568739)

So, for all you poor souls who lined up to give money to the borg: does it work?

But since MS is losing money on each unit sold, (at least it was reported that they are losing money per unit), isn't this like taking money from MS? ;-)

Indrema (1)

n-tone (535094) | more than 12 years ago | (#2568757)

I think that our approach, as compared to some of the other console manufacturers, is to invite creative independence to come to the platform and really do some magic. To steal from film industry examples, I want 'Run Lola Run' . . . [and] 'The Blair Witch Project.' I want those types of zany things that don't really fit into the mold to find their way into Xbox.
It sounds like the strategy Indrema [indrema.com], the first linux-based console. Indrema is now dead ...
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