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KDE 3.0 Screenshots

timothy posted more than 12 years ago | from the need-wackier-screenies dept.

KDE 359

Lawrence Teo writes: "The screenshots of the upcoming KDE 3.x are out! More treats for you screenshot-loving people and I-need-my-desktop-to-look-perfect types. :-)" Frankly, they look a lot like ... previous KDE desktops :) That by itself says a lot about how mature KDE has become.

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RMS? (-1)

The Turd Report (527733) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570896)

When will RMS start bitching about it? Will he try to join its board of directors so he can start babbling about some kooky assed shit?

/.ed? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2570899)

The site seems /.ed .... any mirrors ?

Mirrored (5, Informative)

_xeno_ (155264) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570961)

Try here [wpi.net] (that's http://cstrike.res.wpi.net/offtopic/kde/kde3shots. html [wpi.net] for those who don't trust me).

We'll see how long this box can last...

better screenshot (-1)

Shitsack Comments (256887) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570904)

can be found here [goatse.cx]

Re:better screenshot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2570998)

I have to ask - do you ever get people to bite on those anymore? Are there really /. readers left who will click on any link without mousing over first? I think not.

bleak (-1)

AdmlTroll (531188) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570905)

This user interface appears to be substantially inferior than that of Windows XP. I for one will not be changing.

i know i shouldn't reply to a troll, but... (1)

jrs 1 (536357) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571059)

...i have a couple of important comments to make:
  • the kde user interface is modifyable.
  • the new windows xp user interface has a two styles: blubbly mess in blue, brown or silver or (now get this!) the original windows interface. all these themes are just microsoft's attempt to catch up with the aesthetics of macos x and the x window manages and desktops.

  • kde is an entire desktop, not just an interface.
  • no forced registration and sending product keys to microsoft. with kde, your privacy is respected.

Got there... Excited (3, Informative)

SolidCore (250574) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570906)

KDE 3 provides a database-independent API for accessing SQL databases. It provides support for ODBC as well as direct support for Oracle, PostgreSQL and MySQL databases (custom drivers may be added as well). I am really looking forward to this feature, as I am a SQL junkie. If I could backend everything to a SQL database I would.

Re:Got there... Excited (4, Informative)

furiousgeorge (30912) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570930)

>>KDE 3 provides a database-independent API for
>>accessing SQL databases.

This isn't coming from the KDE gang..... it's coming from v3.0 of the Qt toolkit. The latest Qt is seriously kick ass....

Re:Got there... Excited (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2570939)

I once tried to backend your mother, but it was rather idfficult due to the cavernous nature of her SQL. I guess it was because you had already deposited your ODBC there

A couple of Qt DB API questions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2571067)

1. Is the DB API threadsafe?

2. Does it block the GUI thread while waiting for a result set?

Re:Got there... Excited (2)

jmccay (70985) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571114)

What version of ODBC is supported? I hope it is 3.x which is better than 2.x. Also, what level of complaince. ODBC is a great way to write applications for many different databases with one set of sorce code! This one of the few things I am glad Microsoft copied and improved.

KDE (0, Redundant)

Mondrames (242558) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570908)

You would think that of all places, KDE.org would expect to be slashdotted, and handle themselves accordingly. Oh well. We don't see all of the punches coming.

Guess I'll check back in a hour or so *grin*

Why no animated window widgets? (2, Funny)

Rob Parkhill (1444) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570910)

Come on, everyone knows that a modern desktop needs to have excessive animation. I want a parade of dancing midgets everytime I iconify emacs!

Oh wait, these are just screenshots. Perhaps I just can't see all of the glorious animation? That must be it.

Yeah how about (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2570936)

a dancing GNU

Re:Why no animated window widgets? (2)

Spy Hunter (317220) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571041)

Actually, there are animated window widgets! Select the new "Glow" window decoration, hold your mouse over one of the close, minimize, or maximize buttons, and watch the button pulse and glow.

Plus, there's always Amor [powerup.com.au] for all your "little animated character" needs (also included with KDE in the "toys" package).

Yessireebob, KDE is one great desktop ;-)

Funny... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2570914)

It looks like Windows...

That's certainly original...

Re:Funny... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2570971)

yeah looks about as much like windows as Ximian GNOME looks like Mac OSX!

You must not use windows too often.

Re:Funny... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2570980)

You're right. I shouldn't insult Windows by comparing it to this cheap knock-off.

Re:Funny... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2570990)

cheap knock off... that's funny.. Go FUCK YOURSELF MORON!

Re:Funny... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2571008)

You're right. KDE can't compare to Windows in any category. Calling it a cheap knock off degrades Korean and Taiwanese knock off factories.

Re:Funny... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2571022)

yes, because we all know that KDE has been around for longer than windows. Besides, everyone stole the idea from Xerox, so what harm is done if KDE steals it from microsoft?

Re:Funny... (1)

mandolin (7248) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571070)

It looks like Windows... That's certainly original...

Yeah, but Konqy rocks :)

I don't think originality was a design goal.. and when windows came out, Apple sued because it looked like the Mac.. it all comes around.

Not much change (3, Informative)

LinuxGeek8 (184023) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570920)

Well, there's not much change.
But that was said beforehand, it won't be the big change like going from kde1 to kde2.
It's more an upgrade to Qt 3, which has as result that kde2 and kde3 are binary incompatible.
Maybe they are lucky (or not) that it is in about the same timeframe as going from gcc2 to gcc3. All c++ binaries will be broken with or without qt2/qt3 in most major distro's.

On kernel-cousin I read that a beta version should become available at the end of the month. Might be interesting.

I just hope that kde 3 will be ready to ship in the new distro's for next year, like Redhat 7.3/8.0 and Mandrake 8.2.

Still needs Customized GUI. (1, Funny)

cosmosis (221542) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570921)

I think the screenshots are nice. But after more than 15 years, I still want to have TOTAL control over my desktop, including the option of finally getting away from SQUARE WINDOWS. To appeal to a wider audience lets start having the option of having circular, triangular, morphing windows.

Re:Still needs Customized GUI. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2570933)

I can understand rectangular windows, I can somewhat grasp circular windows, and I can see the possibility of windows that change size and shape.

I can't see the utility of a triangular window.

Re:Still needs Customized GUI. (1, Interesting)

seann (307009) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570976)

I always keep my windows in some eye pleasing posistion..
Tv on top, irc (2 lines visible + type) on the botton left, konq on the top left (usualy 640X480 web browsing window)
and anything else on the right

now if I had triangle windows, I could put them together like lego blocks, inter conecting how I wish.

It'd be kind of interesting, espically with snapping widgets.

It'd be even cooler if instead of shading the windows, you turn them into small trianglular (octagonal, etc) and the ymake up the desktop in a pretty anti aliased way. They would just show a tiny bit of what the window represents, and maybe a few words like the application title (on mouse over, etc).

This would be kind of cool. Great for productivity

These ideas are coming from a minimalist, I don't use KDE that much.
I hate taskbars, I love blackbox's cutoff menus, I'm a black box kinda guy.

Re:Still needs Customized GUI. (3, Insightful)

furiousgeorge (30912) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570944)

Can u give us an example of where a triangle window would be of _any_ use other than a visual curiosity?

Until then, I'd prefer that KDE and all other developers out there concentrate on work that is actually useful.

Re:Still needs Customized GUI. (1)

Mondrames (242558) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570977)

A pyramid chart that doesn't waste space. Except for the unusable space around the triangle. Maybe you could put 2 upside down triangles on either side...oh wait..
Uh..

Re:Still needs Customized GUI. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2571121)

haha...I wish I had some mod points right now!

Re:Still needs Customized GUI. (2)

laserjet (170008) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571002)

Let's say you were an history buff, and you were an expert on pyramids. Well, the pyramid is a triangle when viewed two-dimensionally, so you would have less wasted space with a triangular windows.
As far as circle windows, perhaps tire manufacturers would like this?

ok, let's be honest. Whoever modded that up as insightful is just an idiot. On a 2D display, the rectangle windows is the only way to go in 99% of the applications. Wow, what a stupid idea.

Re:Still needs Customized GUI. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2571115)

What about a highly-skinnable MP3 player? I think a triangle would make a fine shape for an mp3 player.

Re:Still needs Customized GUI. (1)

sweatyboatman (457800) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570958)

What would be the point of a triangular window? This sounds like a gee whiz! wouldn't that be neato! kinda feature that no one would ever use.

Would you like to type a document in a triangular window? Or look at a list of files? Instead of being able to use the corners of the box, they'd be waste space on the desktop.

Honestly, unless there's a paradigm shift away from the desktop concept then I think the rectangles will be the only useful shape for windows.
Sweat

Re:Still needs Customized GUI. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2571077)

This sounds like a gee whiz! wouldn't that be neato! kinda feature that no one would ever use

Has that ever stopped a Linux nerd before?

Re:Still needs Customized GUI. (2)

Spy Hunter (317220) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570975)

To appeal to a wider audience lets start having the option of having circular, triangular, morphing windows.

How on earth did this get modded insightful? Why would you want triangular windows? What possible benefit would that give you? It wouldn't even look cooler, it would just be different (and harder to manage). Also note that arbitrarily-shaped windows are already available for applications that can use them such as Noatun or other themeable media players. For every other application with a sane interface, triangular windows are about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Re:Still needs Customized GUI. (2)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570999)

You're in luck -- X11 has had the SHAPE extension for at least 15 years. I don't know if it's supported in XFREE86, however. My AIX desktop 5 years ago (?) had it, though. It was kind of amusing have a true circular window for a clock, but I have to say that it wasn't all the exciting.

Re:Still needs Customized GUI. (4, Funny)

revscat (35618) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571010)

Oh yes, I totally agree. I don't know how many times I've thought "Y'know, Mozilla is really in the way of my terminal window. If I could just reshape my terminal window so that it resembled a big L that would really help my workflow!" Plus, if we were able to change windows into whatever shape we wanted it would certainly allow for some boasting rights over M$!

I just want to know if X could even be extended to support this.

Ooh! Ooh! You know what ELSE would be cool? If you could have windows that morphed all on their own! We could have Lava-Gnome or Lava-KDE or whatever. The artsy-fartsy types would flock to Linux from their wimpy Macs, and usability can just go fuck itself!

Wow. A whole new world of possibilities has just opened up before us. But would this be a cathedral or bazaar model for development? That's the important quetsion.

- Rev.

Re:Still needs Customized GUI. (1)

plone (140417) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571037)

You forgot that Mozilla can do anything, including morphing windows and widgets.

Yes, millions waiting for triangular windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2571079)

To appeal to a wider audience lets start having the option of having circular, triangular, morphing windows.

Please tell me about these users who have not moved to KDE yet because of the lack of triangular windows.

Re:Still needs Customized GUI. (1)

fizz-beyond (130257) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571096)

You know what I want to see? didn't think so because I haven't said yet...

Ok in Gnome I can make extra pannels, and have them float (or various other behaviors), I want to be able to do that in KDE as well. Ok so maybe you can do that now, but if so I don't know how to and can't find any mention of it ANYWHERE!

I suppose I should explain why... I keep my main pannel on the right had side of the screen (next-step style) but down in the lower left hand corner I like to have a couple of applets running like network usage and (can't think of the name of it) the place where the iconified windows go (yea that thing).

Re:Still needs Customized GUI. (2, Funny)

rebug (520669) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571127)

No advanced windowing system should be without circular windows.

I want a circular terminal window with the cursor in the middle. As you typed, words would travel along a spiral that grew towards the edge. Scrolling back would be a simple matter of inserting a key into the middle and unwinding.

Does it run on windows yet? (1)

skrowl (100307) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570922)

I really like geoshell and all, but KDE on my windows boxen would be great!

Re:Does it run on windows yet? (2)

HiThere (15173) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570959)

I think MS is out to get me, but I still think it would be nice if it ran on Win95. At work I MUST run windows, no option. If I could show a Linux desktop ...

I'd like it better, and it might help convince mgmt. (or at least convince them not to upgrade Win.

.

Re:Does it run on windows yet? (3, Informative)

ikekrull (59661) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571072)

There are several linux distros that will happily coexist with Windows - i.e. boot off a disk image stored on a Windows partition.

ZipSlack/BigSlack are good examples of this type of thing (http://www.slackware.org)

Just install KDE on one of those and you're good to go.

You might also look at VMWare, which will also achieve the same thing, but will let you run 'KDE-in-a-Window-on-your-Windows-Desktop'.

I think VMWare Express is about $49US.

Hope that helps

Re:Does it run on windows yet? (1)

belroth (103586) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571103)

There is supposed to be a beta of kde to run on the version of X that runs on Cygwin....

I sort of got X running on Cygwin on Me & NT, but no further. Too many other things to do (like real work) to risk trashing one of the few things that makes WinXX vaguely usable.
Along with Emacs 21 and GnuServ of course :-)

I can't connect. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2570925)

Slashdotted already? That was fast. Any mirrors in the house?

Beware... (3, Funny)

O2n (325189) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570926)

[...] and the friendly tips from Kandalf.

"Friendly tips", eh?
Beware... the PaperClip also started like this... :)

Solid Foundation (2, Insightful)

rhekman (231312) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570928)

The great thing about the current and especially the next generation of Gnome and KDE is they establish a powerful framework for creating complex apps.

Evolution and Gnumeric are great examples, as are KOffice and Konqueror.

I know it's cliche, but I can't wait for Evo 1.0, Gnome 2.0, KDE 3.0, Mozilla 1.0, Abiword 1.0, et al.

Regards,
Reid

Bad screenshots for showing anti-aliasing (3, Offtopic)

jmv (93421) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570931)

Actually, I understand that one of the most important difference between KDE 2 and KDE 3 is anti-aliasing. Unfortunatly, they only have JPEG screenshots, so it's almost impossible to notice the anti-aliasing because of how JPEG works. JPEG encodes pictures in the frequency (DCT) domain, so it has a normal tendency to slightly blur (low-pass) the image (which is OK in most circumstances), which makes is also roughly what the anti-aliasing does.

However, PNG (or GIF, but if you don't mind the patent issues) would have been a good alternative, as it doesn't have that low-pass effect since it just works by quantizing values (colormap) before a lossless compression (which is the patented part in GIF). Anyone have GIF or PNG screenshots?

Re:Bad screenshots for showing anti-aliasing (1)

7-Vodka (195504) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570974)

actually, anti aliasing has been a feature of qt and kde since early kde2 betas :-/

Re:Bad screenshots for showing anti-aliasing (3, Insightful)

jonathan_ingram (30440) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570982)

Actually, I understand that one of the most important difference between KDE 2 and KDE 3 is anti-aliasing.

Not really -- KDE 2 does anti-aliasing very well. Certainly I at least have a lovely anti-aliased KDE 2.2.1 desktop (using the QNix widget style).

Also, these screenshots aren't particularly anything special. Take a look at some of the pictures on KDE-Look.org [kde-look.org] for a better idea of how you can theme KDE.

Warning! Buzzword explosion! (1)

DVega (211997) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571016)

jmv [slashdot.org] wrote: "DCT, JPEG, PNG, GIF, LowPass Filter, Quantizing, Colormap, lossless compression, anti-aliasing, fequency domain, blur, encode, ...."

BTW, anti-aliasing was introduced on KDE 2.

Re:Bad screenshots for showing anti-aliasing (1)

lobsterGun (415085) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571039)

I thought that whole GIF patent thing had already expired. Am I wrong?

We need more AA fonts! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2571048)

I'm a little miffed at the rather poor selection of anti-aliased fonts available in 2.2, hopefully there will be abundant fonts in 3.

Re:Bad screenshots for showing anti-aliasing (3, Informative)

Spy Hunter (317220) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571073)

What? KDE 2 had font anti-aliasing, and so does KDE 3. It isn't "better" in KDE 3 or anything (plus it didn't work in CVS for a little while).

Maybe you're thinking of alpha blending? I hear QT 3 supports alpha blending everywhere using the RENDER extension, which should lead to such eyecandy as full PNG transparency support in Konqueror, alpha-blended icons everywhere (shadows), and cooler themes, among other things. I haven't seen this applied yet, though. You wouldn't see it in any screenshots you could make at this time.

Re:Bad screenshots for showing anti-aliasing (1)

prizog (42097) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571100)

No, the lzw compression is the patented part in GIF, not the color quantization.

Re:Bad screenshots for showing anti-aliasing (1)

mberman (93546) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571131)

umm, he said the type of lossless compression used (which is in fact a type of lzw) was the patented part, not the color quantization...

No gif (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2571120)

You should know that gif only has a 256 color palette and the screenshots (most of which have gradients) would look like trash and it wouldn't display the anti-aliasing all that well either.

KDE. (3, Insightful)

laserjet (170008) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570935)

I remember way back in the day, I thought KDE was an unstable, showy piece of crap. I think a lot of us did. A lot of us didn't even consider KDE over Gnome on our linux box. And I think it is safe to say, and many will agree, that KDE really has done an outstanding job - and that in a relatively short period of time. The screen shots look beautiful, and I wish continued success to the KDE team.

I think several years ago if I would have placed a bet on which GUI would succeed, I would say Gnome. Now, I wouldn't bet on either - I think both are excelling in their own way. Gnome seems to be the accepted choice that the commercial Unixes are going with, while KDE is doing a fine job of fulfilling the desktop wants and needs, and looking cool at the same time.

Hats off to the KDE team - their contribution is taken for granted every time you login to your pretty KDE desktop. KDE, thank you.

Re:KDE. (2)

FatRatBastard (7583) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570987)

Yup. I tried KDE back in the 1.x days. Was nice, but it just didn't feel right for me, so I stuck with E. Have moved to Gnome and like it, but have just starting noticing that apps are loading slooooooooooooooowly. (Not smart enough to figure out why either.. I think the latest apt-get update grabbed something a little wonky) So I've given KDE a try. Wow. Leaps and bounds better than the old 1.x KDE (in terms of what I like). Am mighty impressed and will probably switch between the two of 'em for the time being.

Gotta say I'm still pulling for gnome, but either one's fine with me.

Re:KDE. (1)

glwtta (532858) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571044)

Gnome seems to be the accepted choice that the commercial Unixes are going with, while...

Which is really rather strange, as nowadays KDE is a lot faster and more stable than Gnome (while Gnome has more of the flashy, fancy stuff). Nautilus is a good example- beautiful, but so very slow (it's getting there though).

Anyway, I started with Gnome myself, but have switched to KDE since - as far as day to day utility goes, there is just no comparison.

Evolution (Re:KDE.) (1)

mirabilos (219607) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571065)

I ack this except for that I now consider using KDE on an OpenBSD box (no linux here, too instable). Not personally, I never even liked X and stick with icewm (for the sake of ease and 400kB WM executables). But by usage of KDE I could start to teach my friends real UN*X. Linux first (KDE 1.x times), I hoped for GNOME. But on OpenBSD now, I do not even hear of GNOME, but KDE 2.2.1 has been in the ports system nearly instantly after release. And my friends discovered - and discovered how to make a CD link on the desktop (not that easy under OpenBSD).
It's a pity that most free software is Linux-centric (the control planel doesn't do much sensefull except for WM settings), but for my fellow X11 using friends it's a cool tool to learn.
One of them I even started teaching a bit about the console (not the Konsole :)

Thank YOU (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2571091)

Finally someone on slashdot extending some appreciation to people who volunteer their time to crank out great code. Its a welcome change from the grumpy dishevelled posters who shit on everything and anything.

The fact that the screenshots look the same... (-1)

Pr0n K1ng (160688) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570951)

says more about the fact that KDE 3 is strictly a port of KDE2 to QT3. Do some research before you blather off again, timothy.

Probably got your job the same way chrisd did. Is that fucker Poag next?

Re:The fact that the screenshots look the same... (-1, Flamebait)

Prodigous_Erection (536018) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571093)

d00d. Tone it down a tad bit. What the blazing fuck got your tightie whities in a wad? Are you pissed casue GiZ is fucked over totally?

I love sushi! Had some last night on the company.

The big changes aren't visible (5, Insightful)

LMCBoy (185365) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570957)

Keep in mind, there isn't much new screen candy in KDE 3.0; a lot of the changes are in the libraries. The biggest change is the port to Qt 3.0, which provides database-aware widgets, improved Qt Designer, bi-di text support, a new regexp class, among other things.

There are also many new applications being added to KDE.

arrggg (3, Insightful)

Nate Fox (1271) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570986)

Frankly, they look a lot like ... previous KDE desktops :) That by itself says a lot about how mature KDE has become.

Windows 95 looks just like Windows 98. Theres nothing really different, aside from supporting USB. Windows sucks.

Heard Tori Amos on the radio [kroq.com] this morning. She had a geat quote: Perspective changes whenever you move. Things always look different from another viewpoint.
Some of the linux zealots need to move around a bit. The view never changes unless you're in front.

Screenshots? Where? Who? What? WWW? (0, Redundant)

mirabilos (219607) | more than 12 years ago | (#2570992)

Duh...

They must be /.ed

And this with only 39 comments ???
Seems as they're running M$PWS v3 :)

Mostly a switch to Qt 3 (4, Informative)

InodoroPereyra (514794) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571003)

Yes, it may be that it will look a bit prettier. But the major change in KDE 3.0 will be the port of all the apps to Qt 3

That seems to be the last major change in the libs for a long time. I think they will try to keep a consistent API for a couple years (after 3.0 is released) to let programmers write apps for KDE. I undertand (from previous discussions in the dot [kde.org] ) that they decided to jump to (the apparently much improved) Qt 3 now, spend a few months in the ports and then provide a mature, solid API. I guess they made the right decision.

Many thanks to the KDE folks,
-- Don Inodoro

Kind of a let down... (1, Funny)

athakur999 (44340) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571007)

I went to look at the screenshots and was pretty disappointed. All I saw was "HTTP 500 - Internal Server Error."

What the hell kind of interface is that? What do click on to get to the program menu, the "H" or the "T" (and which "T"?)?

This is turning into a VI or Emacs topic (1)

thetechweenie (60363) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571019)

Great eye candy, but I still have no reason to switch from Gnome. I'ld like to see a poll of how many people have switched from KDE to Gnome and vice versa...

Stephen King, author, dead at 55 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2571020)


I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Horror/Sci Fi writer Stephen King was found dead in his Maine home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon.

kde 2.2.2 out ..soon (1)

L-Wave (515413) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571036)

if anyone is interested kde 2.2.2 (bugfix) should be out soon , it was supposed to be out 11/12 but looks like they didnt meet that deadline.

Mature User Interface? (-1, Troll)

Jeff Probst (459812) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571057)

Frankly, they look a lot like ... previous KDE desktops :) That by itself says a lot about how mature KDE has become
That is crap reasoning Hemos.
They are waiting for the next series of Windows and OSX User Interface innovations before they can copy them.

What gives? (1, Redundant)

dinotrac (18304) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571068)

I thought /. was the home of hip young folks who use GNOME.

What's with beating the KDE server into the ground? You whippersnappers don't use it anyway.

Would it be that terrible to let us backwards old fogies enjoy one of the few pleasures we have left, oohing and ahing over KDE?

Thank you very much.

current state from a user's perspective: (5, Informative)

7-Vodka (195504) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571075)

I've been using the kde development versions from cvs since before kde2 was released.

I used kde 2 for a while.

Right now I'm using last night's cvs of kde3 called kde 2.9.0.

Not much has changed as far as looks go. Here are some changes i've noticed as i have both cvs and 2.2.1 installed on the same machine:

  • Konqueror : slightly different buttons, renders a lot more web pages correctly, deals with POST much better than b4, javascript much improved, slightly different menu workings. Oh, and better filebrowsing look and improved filebrowsing sidebar with more options.
  • Koffice: better .doc support.
  • Kmail: nifty visual improvements, better imap support, loads faster.
  • kdemultimedia: noatun (kde media player) actually works as opposed to 2.2, kaboodle a new useless (for now) little embedded multimedia player mostly works
  • Overall: slight performance increase, slight loading time decrease, better general feel, K menu has a win2k style bar on the left side of it, start splash screen has new spiffy graphics with dragon, pull down menus etc work a little better but look a little larger, slight improvements in konsole, taskbar is different but don't know how, kwin works a little better (not sure whats changed tho)

Not a huge change as kde1 -> kde2 but enough of one that i always choose my kde3 session instead of kde2.

The reload Button in konqueror should be changed . (1)

hemabe (532570) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571083)

The reload Button (2 green arrows, nice) should be changed, because a german company ("Der grüne Punkt") is using a symbol exactly like that. Who knows, one day Microsoft buys this company only to sue KDE ;) ciao, Hermi

Exciting (-1)

SlaveTroll (535702) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571098)

I'm glad to see KDE is progressing so fast! I expect within the next year they may be able to equal (or possibly pass) the stability and feature list of GNOME. I heard they have also added bindings to the C language in KDE 3.0 - this is great news! Some parts of KDE, mainly aRTs is written in C already - hopefully they can do a complete rewrite soon since C produces faster, more efficient in GUI's. Well good job KDE!

KDE == Windows?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2571118)

Maybe it's just me, but KDE sure looks a lot like Windows. In many ways it seems like KDE is just playing catch up. Most of the features of windows are copied verbatim (ie. taskbar, "start" button, same keyboard shortcuts). I'm not saying that it's necessarily a bad thing, especially for windows users that are migrating to a linux environment. However, it would be nice to see something a little bit more revolutionary in it's design instead of rehashing the same old crap.

Question... (1)

srvivn21 (410280) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571124)

The "kaudio KIO" screenshot shows the CD "All Killer No Filler" by "Sum 41", and has a folder for Ogg Vorbis tracks. Are those tracks actually on the CD, or is that a function of the kaudio plug-in? I imagine that it's the second option (a function of the plug-in), but I figured I'd send out a request for confirmation.

I'd prefer one that worked well and intuitively (3, Insightful)

SCHecklerX (229973) | more than 12 years ago | (#2571128)

More treats for you screenshot-loving people and I-need-my-desktop-to-look-perfect types.

Looking good is nice. Too bad these environments get it backwards and always focus on form over function first. I'd rather have OS/2's wps on linux updated to be pretty. IBM was smart and actually got the SOM and DSOM and OOI stuff nailed down properly early. Now, if we had that environment to build on, we could make it prettier. Oh well. Windowmaker and ROX do a very nice job for me for now.

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