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GameCube Really And Truly For Sale

timothy posted more than 12 years ago | from the if-you-care dept.

News 343

Several readers have submitted the news that the GameCube is now officially for sale. With the GameCube and Xbox newly on offer, and the still-amazing PlayStation2 still hanging on, and dirt-cheap, high-power PCs on every corner, it looks like the predicted deaths of both console and PC are still some ways off. On the whole, I'd rather have the Mandrake Gaming edition (mentioned previously) than a new console.

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fp (-1)

insomniac (33758) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581444)

etc

me too! (5, Funny)

Lord Omlette (124579) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581445)

I enjoy playing Pikmin on Mandrake gaming edition! I especially enjoy playing networked Super Monkey Ball on Mandrake gaming edition vs. people in the same room as me.

Re:me too! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581452)

Dont forget about Halo,that looks totally amazing on Linux, but only if you have the Mandrake gaming edition. I just cant wait until some of sega's games are out on linux. Dance dance revolution all the way, baby yeah!

Re:me too! (-1)

tristan f. (259738) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581453)

I completely agree with you, but you could have made your point much more succinctly: "timothy, you're an idiot"

Re:me too! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581483)

Nice, Tristan. You're a fucking fag, dude.

FMBP! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581446)

First Mike Bouma Post!

Sincerely, Mike Bouma

huh? (0)

reo_kingu (536791) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581447)

They've been on sale here in Japan for a while :)
In fact, a few days ago I saw one for sale in a Circle K convenience store :D

Re:huh? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581451)

Shut your hole wang-chung!

Re:huh? (-1)

I.T.R.A.R.K. (533627) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581563)

And Japan matters to who?
I mean, really.

Don't make us have to drop another bomb on you people!

- I throw rocks at retarded kids

Import (1)

tpicot (518367) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581454)

I'm gonna have to import one from america to lil' ol New Zealand. Any good american retailers for exporting them?

Re:Import (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581729)

i am. send me $400 US and i'll mail it to you.

$90 for the Sims? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581455)

$90 for a game that's like a year old? You'd actually prefer that? I'd hate to be somebody receiving an Xmas gift from you. What do you give them, old sweatsocks?

A Nice Thought & Commentary On The GameCube (0, Redundant)

ekrout (139379) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581458)

"I haven't been to one of the 'cube clubs' but I've had my cube (import) for over a month now, and I can assure everyone that it is a great (little) system. The visuals in all three of the japanese launch games (Luigi's Mansion, Waverace - bluestorm and Super Monkey Ball) are fantastic, Luigi's and Waverace are particularily impressive. From a hardware standpoint I'm pretty impressed, Nintendo, ATI and IBM have done a great job designing this system, the footprint is small, the graphics look sharp, from what I hear it is a dream to write for and the controllers are out of this world.

As far as the funfactor of the Games:

Luigi's:
Great fun, great visuals but kinda short, I beat it (without knowing any japanese) in a bit over 7 hours.

Waverace:
Really intense. Spectacular graphics, awesome wave physics and good difficulty. Split screened with friends on a bigscreen is really wild.

Monkey Ball:
This game alone justifies the purchase of the system. I don't think I've ever had as much fun playing a game (on a console) with friends as I have with this one. The premise is wierd, (you manuver a monkey trapped inside a plastic ball through courses) but insanely addicive. Buy the system and buy this game."

Re:A Nice Thought & Commentary On The GameCube (0, Offtopic)

uwmurray (516566) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581506)

Hehe. I just got quoted, wait till I tell my mom.

Re:A Nice Thought & Commentary On The GameCube (3, Informative)

dimator (71399) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581511)

Monkey Ball is the shiznit. I played it until the wee hours, as soon as I brought it home. Multiplayer goodness to the extreme.

mod down (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581600)

mod down. See this comment [slashdot.org] which he copied and pasted as his own.

Re:mod down (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581668)

who cares? it's relevant, right? and he didn't claim it as his own.

go back to bed.

Re:mod down (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581726)

To be fair, he did put the whole passage in quotation marks.

Xbox thoughts (3, Interesting)

CodeMonky (10675) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581459)

I got my hands on an xbox and halo and it is quite a nice system. The built in hd is great because you don't have to drop $$ on memory units, I did pick up the dolby digital adapter and halo and madden 2002 look and sound great (the crowd noise in madden is great).
Halo is a great game, although control IS definately a little harder without my aswd and mouse that I'm used to. Its a shame the network play isn't ready (for both xbox and halo/madden).

Re:Xbox thoughts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581556)

Slight nit, "network" play is ready for Halo, but "internet" play is not.

You can hook up four XBOXs to an ethernet hub and play 16 player Halo today.

Re:Xbox thoughts (3, Interesting)

guinsu (198732) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581666)

I give it a month before someone figures out how its doing the LAN networking and gets an VPN/IP tunneling server set up so you can do real internet play with Halo. At least thats what I am really hoping for. 4 player halo rocks (and is suprisingly managable on a 24" vega), I can't wait to try 16 player.

Re:Xbox thoughts (2)

CodeMonky (10675) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581683)

Thats what I meant.
I was reading an xbox forum where someone posted they had setup a vpn (from his gateway) with someone else and was playing halo with them.

Rock.

Re:Xbox thoughts (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581694)

Gee, wonder if they were a bunch quake dweebs...

They are SUCH a large portion of the console market.

Re:Xbox thoughts (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581662)

Who gives a shit about the PortBox?

Hope you saved your receipt, guess you had no clue GameCube was coming out in a week.

Re:Xbox thoughts (2, Interesting)

Bob The Cowboy (308954) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581721)

You think you didn't already drop $$ on memory?

Do you feel relieved when you buy PC's [dell.com] , and don't have to buy the OS?

Bill

But. (0, Offtopic)

tcd004 (134130) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581460)

I want something more fulfulling than the Pentium 4! [lostbrain.com] Look at how poorly it stacks up to an Atari 2600! [lostbrain.com]

tcd004

Re:But. (1)

gazbo (517111) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581590)

Totally off-topic and I expect to be moderated as such, but please heed my warning:
Do not follow those links. The material is so lame (ph34r my eloquence) that I actually felt any joviality in my soul being absorbed.

I imagine the author of this site as a fragile old man, shaking and close to a nervous breakdown, desperately scraping for comedy material whilst sobbing at his own humourless ineptitude.

Re:But. (2)

tcd004 (134130) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581616)

Your reply was so enjoyable it made the creation of the entire site worthwhile.

Thanks for letting us absorb some of your joviality!

Of course you would, Timmah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581461)

That shows your true colors. You'd rather have a version of an OS that only has a few decent games (yup, sorry) vs. a console that will have hundreds of games that all work and look great. Unless of course you're into XBill, which is probably your favorite game.

We, the readers of Slashdot, appreciate your candor in revealing what a brainwashed zealot you are, and will filter the news accordingly. Thanks for your honsety.

Re:Of course you would, Timmah (-1)

Cheesy Fool (530943) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581570)

Your absolutly right. I'm getting sick and tired of the fucking Linux zealots.

testing the filters (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581463)

Slashdot is a censor! If i write that timothy is an idiot i will get modded down immediately. It is true

Re:testing the filters (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581576)

Well, you're at 0 right now...so you didn't get modded down yet. If you do, it's only because you're completely offtopic, and deserve to be modded down, even if you said Bill Gates is an idiot.

Re:testing the filters (-1)

Cheesy Fool (530943) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581611)

Who the hell is Bill Gates?

Woo Hoo. Yet another console for my collection! (0)

Lord Hugh Toppingham (319381) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581464)

I already have an Atari Lynx, a SNES, a MegaDrive, a PS1, an N64, A DreamCast, a PS2, A PC, and Commodore 64.

I cannot wait to see what this Game Cube can do.

I wonder when they are released in Europe ? I hope someone comes out with a 'hunt Osama' game for it, then I would be in heaven...

what makes the game cube so great? (0, Redundant)

lowtekneq (469145) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581471)

I personally don't see whats so great about packing a bunch of old systems into one. Im not much of a gammer but even if i were i won't spend $300 on the game cube.

Re:what makes the game cube so great? (1)

wadetemp (217315) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581505)

That's a good call. Definitely avoid spending $300 on it. Besides, like I always say, research before buying!

Re:what makes the game cube so great? (5, Funny)

dimator (71399) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581532)

I personally don't see whats so great about packing a bunch of old systems into one.

Huh? Did you read something that lead you to believe the gamecube is an amalgamation of NES, SNES, N64?

Im not much of a gammer but even if i were i won't spend $300 on the game cube.

That's good, because it's $200. Add a game, $250.

Re:what makes the game cube so great? (-1)

Cheesy Fool (530943) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581577)

Nothing really, the only good thing about a Nintendo console is a Mario game and a Zelda game.

Re:what makes the game cube so great? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581675)

Using your troll to further the point.

The GameCube would still outsell the flop box by a large margin if those two were the only games available for it.

Yes the Game Cube is great.

Re:what makes the game cube so great? (1)

overturf (193264) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581588)

Whew.. Good thing Nintendo is selling it for $199 then!

Re:what makes the game cube so great? (1)

PlaysWithMatches (531546) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581718)

Im not much of a gammer

You're not much of a speller either. :P
Here ya go [dictionary.com]

They are late (0, Flamebait)

Niksie3 (222515) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581478)

No one is going to care... Nintendo lost out on this one. They where on time with the N64 but I haven't heard of anyone sleeping over at a store to be the first to have one!!!

Re:They are late (2, Insightful)

wadetemp (217315) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581489)

I have. I personally know 3 mothers who were camped out at ShopKo at 4:30 this morning. One of them (mine) was picking it up for my younger brothers and sisters back home as a Christmas present. If I personally know 3 people that were there before opening, I'm pretty sure that ShopKo's first-come first-serve lot of 30 units was gone 5 minutes after the store opened.

Anecdotal evidence (2)

general_re (8883) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581562)

I heard from a guy who was poking around Toys "R" Us on his way home from work last week, looking into systems for Christmas. His report:

Number of kids and adults crowded around the GameCube demo: 6
Number of people lining up to see the X-Box demo: 0

;)

Re:Anecdotal evidence (2)

guinsu (198732) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581690)

The default x-box demo sucks. The local EB repalced it with Halo a few weeks ago (probably against the rules, but oh well). Always has 2 players and a crowd around it now.

Re:They are late (2)

dimator (71399) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581557)

but I haven't heard of anyone sleeping over at a store to be the first to have one!!!

Consider yourself informed; about 30 people (including me) were camped out last night.

Let's not forget that Nintendo has been doing this a while. They're not going to roll over and die, they're going to roll their sleeves up and show the industry a thing [gamespot.com] or two [ign.com] .

Re:They are late (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581642)

Dumbass, Nintendo is going to fall in to a comfortable second place to Sony and make a shitload of money as usual.

Late (0, Interesting)

TheDarkRogue (245521) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581487)

GameCubes were Really and Truely for sale starting Midnight :) I Know, I was there, I bought 3. It was Rather Scary, one person who had the wasn't there at 6 to get a voucher to turn in at midnight, Followed me and my friends out of walmart and to our car. Earlier someone got mugged in the parking lot for their voucher. I'm Sticking them on eBay soon as they are good and out of them and let the people who MUST have one get one. I Do have to say though that the Controler is nice. I'm not big on Consoles but if I could take this things controler and put it into my computer for PC Gaming, I would. Hell, I'm not a Console gaming person at all, but I really want to take one of these thgins out of the box and go buy a game for them. And what does having the GameBoy Advanced do when you plug it in? Can it act like another player or something?

Re:Late (1)

awwjunk (145559) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581517)

I got mine in the mail from ebgames on Friday morning. Been playing it alot -- its a great system.



All three games I got were damn nice. RSII looks very good. Luigi's Mansion is somewhat addicting -- much more addicting than I thought it would be. I'd say more but I'm busy playing. I don't really know what all the fuss is about. These new consoles (xbox and gc) are fairly nice.

Sad (4, Interesting)

ergo98 (9391) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581550)

I'm Sticking them on eBay soon as they are good and out of them and let the people who MUST have one get one.

No one must have a Gamecube, so don't pretend that you're pursuing a noble cause. Having said that I hope Nintendo absolutely swamps the market will millions, meaning that the most you'll ever get is retail (and it sounds like it will be like that as Nintendo has good production, meaning that I'd much rather pay retail than deal with the hassle of Ebay and some unknown person. I doubt anyone is going to profiteer off the Gamecube, or the Xbox for that matter. It was sweet after Christmas last year seeing hundreds of wankers trying to pawn PS2s at progressively lower prices, eventually taking a pretty heavy loss as the store prices dropped). The fact that scalpers such as yourself run and buy up all the stock just to rape families whose kids want a game to play really pisses me off, and I hope that you are left holding the bag on that.

Re:Sad (1)

wadetemp (217315) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581607)

What? Capitalism IS Slashdot's primary cause. (Re: numerous stories on defeating copyright protection in the name of saving money on CDs.) This post seems quite typical and "approprate" considering the audience. :)

But I am a pretty half-assed capitalist, and I agree with you, this is just wrong. There are probably plenty of mothers or fathers who really wanted to get something thier young children wanted for Christmas and now they can't on the budget they have because of "scalpers."

Re:Sad (1)

TheDarkRogue (245521) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581636)

I don't think it's a Noble cause at all; I'm in it purely for financial gain. I talk of the families who MUST get their kids the new Game system, because the Kid Demands it and will be heart broken if he doesn't. The Parent who is so weak as to say no to their kid who wants the latest and greatest of the year (Disputable, I know, lets not get into an X-Bob Vs; GameCube thing here) and don't have the power to say no. They have so much money that they can buy their kid this new thing for Christmas, well then I would be GLAD to take their money. Maybe buy myself a nice new Radon or GF3. On eBay, I'm gonna put the starting price so I would just break even (That includes the Chinese Buffet I got while waiting till midnight) And let it go from there. The Other trick is that I kept my receipts, and never opened the boxes, so if things for some reason don't go well, I Can take them back and again, break even (Cept for that Chinese Buffet), and just pass this weekend off as a fun campout at Wal-Mart. So really I can't be left "holding the bag" (The 3 bags are hanging, out of harms reach, in my closet btw). And us scalpers will continue to be the early birds and prey off of the late and lame ones. That is how the world works. Sad and Cruel, but true none the less.

Re:Sad (1)

Shabazz (29233) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581665)

More power to you. Camping out seems like a great way to earn $30. And you do make a good point about those brats who need the latest and greatest, whereas your desire to buy a GF3 or Radeon clearly is driven by necessity.
Scalpers are bad.

I dunno about that. (5, Insightful)

trilucid (515316) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581488)


"GameCube and Xbox newly on offer, and the still-amazing PlayStation2 still hanging on, and dirt-cheap, high-power PCs on every corner, it looks like the predicted deaths of both console and PC are still some ways off."

Actually, in my mind at least, that's actually an indication of the problem(s) to come for hardware companies. The fact that high-powered systems are everywhere you look means the market will become saturated with "more of the same" at some point.

Already, PC hardware manufacturers are facing vanishingly small profit margins (except for Apple, which always makes it a point to sell their stuff at a price that actually makes some money). Yeah, I know all the stuff about various tech leaders making sweeping statements about "never needing more than 640K of memory" and such, but we really are headed for a "meaningful speed" cap on this.

The gaming market will probably be the last of the hardware sectors to really feel the crunch in this respect, because new games always drive hardware to the limits (unlike business apps, which run fine on my old P2-266). One could say that companies like Microsoft drive hardware with new (arguably bloated) OSes that require bigger & badder computers to run well, but even that has to stop at some point.

Basically, there will be a point soon where even gaming consoles will all be "fast enough", which will mean bad news for hardware manufacturers until the "Next Big Thing" emerges to max out even cutting-edge stuff. Will it be "true virtual reality"? Who knows? I for one will be interested to see...

Re:I dunno about that. (5, Insightful)

dimator (71399) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581515)

Basically, there will be a point soon where even gaming consoles will all be "fast enough"

...except that it has never been about hardware performance. If it was strictly about polygons and mip-mapping, then the PS1 would not have been competition for the N64, because PS1 games all looked like shit. It's about fun games, and blockbuster titles like MGS1, Gran Turismo, Zelda, Mario, etc., make or break a system, which is why console makers love to see "exclusively for XXX" so they can have an advantage over console YYY.

Re:I dunno about that. (1)

wadetemp (217315) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581516)

Basically, there will be a point soon where even gaming consoles will all be "fast enough", which will mean bad news for hardware manufacturers until the "Next Big Thing" emerges to max out even cutting-edge stuff.

Nah, I don't think so. When you drop $1500 on a new PC, a lear later you're usually thinking, "Yeah, this is fast enough," and you don't upgrade. Consoles, at ~$300, are not as much of a problem. Besides, at that price you can buy 3 consoles before buying one new "cheap" PC, or 5 consoles for the price of a "average" PC. That's alot of upgrading.

I don't think that the "Next Big Thing" you mention will really change any of that. If a company figures out a way to make a cheap VR headset or something that could be sold at console prices, the same accessory will come out for the PC in successive months.

But, truthfully, consoles ALWAYS have a "next big thing" type of advantage over PCs that no PC can duplicate at this point. Group entertainment (read: party) games just don't go over well on a 17" monitor (or a 22".) You need a couch, a big TV, etc. And honestly, everything besides RPG and strategy on a PC is boring to me because of the lack of a social aspect. I think games are just more fun to play when people can watch what you're doing without getting a neck cramp or having to pull chairs over to sit next to you so they can see what's going on.

Re:I dunno about that. (4, Insightful)

90XDoubleSide (522791) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581655)

"Fast enough" can be an issue for someone running a word processor and internet programs, but in graphics, it is very easy to require exponentially more processing power by increasing the level of detail, and lets face it, games have a long way to go in the level of detail area. For an example of how much power you need to do detailed 3D, look at Pixar's rendering farm. They have combined processing power of 1.5THz, 8TB of RAM, and 27TB of disk space, and it still takes them hours to render one frame.

Don't worry - there's plenty still to come. (1)

Haeleth (414428) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581706)

"Basically, there will be a point soon where even gaming consoles will all be "fast enough", which will mean bad news for hardware manufacturers until the "Next Big Thing" emerges to max out even cutting-edge stuff. Will it be "true virtual reality"? Who knows? I for one will be interested to see..."

I'm waiting for real-time raytraced lighting, and some kind of equivalent for sound. (Wavetracing?) Oh, and forget texture mapping - I want every bobble of the carpet to be individually modelled, same as every fibre of cloth, for proper realism.

You may look at current systems and think things can't get much better, but there's still a huge amount of stuff that these systems can't even dream of handling. I remember looking at Doom and wondering how Quake could improve on it - doesn't that sound silly now?

Frankly, I believe we have years of meaningful speed increases to come. It's not time to worry yet.

It is... i knew friday (0)

Transcendent (204992) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581496)

Some guy came into my work (Einstein Bagles)... got some (you guessed it) bagles, and said "I gotta get energy for Sunday"... Sunday?? ... "Oh yea, the game cube is going on sale... I work for nintendo". Right then and there I wanted to say "Playstation kicks nintendo's ass!", but I was just in shock of meeting one of my idols...

Re:It is... i knew friday (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581573)

just in shock of meeting one of my idols

He was probably a janitor.

Re:It is... i knew friday (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581621)

Yeesh...You'd think you would be able to spell the name of the place you work.

It's bagel...

Mandarake gaming edition? (1)

PoopoocacaTroll (537413) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581502)

Why would I need a specific OS for gaming when windows does gaming just fine, among other things. It's a bit of a pain to have to reboot to play games.

Re:Mandarake gaming edition? (-1)

Cheesy Fool (530943) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581587)

Well thats the whole point, Linux users don't want to reboot just to play a game.

come on (5, Insightful)

nomadic (141991) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581510)


On the whole, I'd rather have the Mandrake Gaming edition (mentioned previously) than a new console.

No you wouldn't. Come on, admit it.

Re:come on (-1)

beee (98582) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581522)

haha

mod parent up!

Re:come on (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581682)

"Seamlessly run many Windows games ... through TransGaming's subscription service."

As if it doesn't have a tough enough row to hoe, doesn't charging ongoing revenue for the same functionality that users take for granted on other platforms turn people off? How many people have/will actually subscribe?

Moderators, explain! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581719)

Why the hell was parent modded up to 5?!

IMPORTANT WARNING: Avoid CmdrTaco's "special taco" (-1)

WeatherTroll (529760) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581519)

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After the victim is unconcous, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTaco's nefarious sexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victim's ass, taco snotting, and getting JonKatz involved. Trust me, you do not want JonKatz anywhere near your unconcious body. Also, rumor has it CmdrTaco is looking for a new goatse.cx guy. Don't let it be you!!!!!

Please, if CmdrTaco offers you his "special taco", RUN LIKE HELL!!!!!!!!

PS2 still rules. (2, Offtopic)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581521)

I played the Xbox... didnt look or feel any different than my PS2.. and GT3 is a better game than gotham racing.

Sony has one helluva head start on the two newcomers... WE'll see where things lie next year....

My bets? Xbox goes the way the Jaguar went. It will die, but at least have better numbers than ATARI was possible of.
nintendo? I hope they can do it, although someone needs to beat the engineer that though not using a standard dvd was a good idea over the head with several SNES machines. what moron in engineering or management thought it was a good idea to not have a feature that everyone else has?

my first notice was the fact that the local stores still have Xboxes on the shelves.. funny, you couldnt get a PS2 for months after release, yet I could liesurely buy an Xbox.... anyone else notice this? or is it region specific?

XBox Availability (2)

SimplyCosmic (15296) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581531)

It's definitely not the case in Northern Ohio. Both Gamecubes and XBoxen have sold out within the day and backorders for pre-orders are common.

:shrug:

Re:PS2 still rules. (5, Interesting)

Richard5mith (209559) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581541)

I hate Gran Turismo. But anyway...

No DVD in the GameCube allows them to be $100 cheaper than both the PS2 and the Xbox. That sounds like a good first reason for not having it. Secondly, they're marketing it as a GAMES machine, not a home-entertainment centre for your living room. And thirdly, Playstation 2 got off to a dreadful start in Japan because a ton of people bought them just as a cheap DVD player (which was somewhat of a rare thing in Japan at the time). That means they didn't buy games, the companies who created PS2 launch titles lost a fortune (like Namco) and Sony lost money too, because of course they make money from the game sales.

Thats your other reason for no DVD in the GC. And also the reason why most Japanese developers are now happy to create games for all three consoles, instead of putting all their eggs in one basket and getting burnt again (like they did with the PS2, losing them money and killing the Dreamcast).

Re:PS2 still rules. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581564)

the reason nintendo didnt use standard dvd's was to prevent illegal copying of games.

Spectacular! (0, Redundant)

Kiro (220724) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581523)

I haven't been to one of the 'cube clubs' but I've had my cube (import) for over a month now, and I can assure everyone that it is a great (little) system. The visuals in all three of the japanese launch games (Luigi's Mansion, Waverace - bluestorm and Super Monkey Ball) are fantastic, Luigi's and Waverace are particularily impressive. From a hardware standpoint I'm pretty impressed, Nintendo, ATI and IBM have done a great job designing this system, the footprint is small, the graphics look sharp, from what I hear it is a dream to write for and the controllers are out of this world.

As far as the funfactor of the Games:

Luigi's:
Great fun, great visuals but kinda short, I beat it (without knowing any japanese) in a bit over 7 hours.

Waverace:
Really intense. Spectacular graphics, awesome wave physics and good difficulty. Split screened with friends on a bigscreen is really wild.

Monkey Ball:
This game alone justifies the purchase of the system. I don't think I've ever had as much fun playing a game (on a console) with friends as I have with this one. The premise is wierd, (you manuver a monkey trapped inside a plastic ball through courses) but insanely addicive. Buy the system and buy this game ;)

Re:Spectacular! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581533)

Loser. cant you come up with origional content?

Informative? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581566)

This post a damn dupe of this [slashdot.org]

Mods on crack again? You MUST read with Oldest First activated!

A thought (3, Interesting)

forgoil (104808) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581545)

PCs really took off when there became many different manufacturers. Wouldn't it be great if many manufacturers could make the same gaming console? Had to have the same specs and such, so all games would work, but it would definitly be very interesting never the less.

Re:A thought (1)

wadetemp (217315) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581565)

Actually, this is happening with the GameCube. Panasonic is making a hybrid GameCube system [ign.com] that also functions as a DVD player. I'm sure more will follow, although whether these make it to the US or not, I don't know. But this is evidence that Nintendo is open to the idea you mention.

Re:A thought (1)

Score Whore (32328) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581591)

Not really a good idea. The strength of the PC market is that different companies can try different ways to make "their" vision of a PC better. By way of being cheaper, faster, etc. And the result is that you have a hundred slightly different platforms and are constrained to using high level APIs to interface with the hardware. The big advantage of consoles is that you have a single specific target to aim at. You can tune your application to deal with the specific strengths of the console, you can avoid the specific weaknesses. As a developer you don't want there to be different versions of the same platform. You need to know exactly how your hardware behaves. Sure there are going to be revisions, but they are typically going to involve minor upgrades or just a matter of throwing out the old and bringing in the new.

Re:A thought (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581601)

As a matter of fact Nintendo is licencing out GameCube to other manufacturers. Panasonic is supposed to be coming out with a DVD player that is also capable of playing GC games.h

Re:A thought (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581678)

Can anyone say, "3DO?" This certainly wouldn't be a first for Panasonic; they've already been there, done that before. Goldstar and Sanyo also jumped into the game without much success.

Linux != Gaming (5, Insightful)

EchoMirage (29419) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581546)

On the whole, I'd rather have the Mandrake Gaming edition (mentioned previously) than a new console.

This is humping Linux for Linux' sake, but of course, it's FUD. Linux is not a gaming platform - we've seen a plethora of evidence for this. The Linux gaming companies can't turn sustained profits, games get released months (sometimes years) after their other-platform counterparts, and support is sketchy, at best.

Timothy saying he'd rather have M:GE instead of a GameCube would be like me saying I'd rather use my bicycle to travel from LA to Boston instead of taking a plane. Sure they both serve essentially the same function, but one is more practical in an exponentially more obvious way.

If you're going to parade Linux around, at least do so intelligently in markets where it actually has the edge.

Re:Linux != Gaming (-1)

Retarded_One (518093) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581580)

OMG, he disparages the Great Timmy. I bet you'll be heading to join the rest of us -1 trolls now!!!

Re:Linux != Gaming (-1)

Cheesy Fool (530943) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581598)

Linux is FUD. There is no reason to use Linux over Windows.

Re:Linux != Gaming (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581599)

Amen. It's comments like Timothys' (and this one is not uncharacteristic of him) that has made Slashdot seem less and less likely to be a source of intelligent, objective, or useful information.

Actually, I'd like to go X-country on my BikeE ... (2, Insightful)

timothy (36799) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581691)

Eh, I don't really care about what is or isn't (considered) a "gaming platform" -- the Mandrake release sounds interesting because it would let me play with a computer game that looks sort of interesting (the Sims) without paying for either a new piece of hardware (console) or another OS (some variety of Windows). I've seen screenshots from the Sims, and I know a lot of people are fascinated by it, but I've never played, myself. Since I'm likely to buy a boxed Mandrake 8.1 anyhow, the price difference isn't much, making it much more tempting as an experiment.

Re: "markets where it actually has the edge," I'm not saying that you should want to buy the Mandrake gaming edition, or anything else. I like fireworks, Honda Goldwings, and Korean food, among other things -- if you prefer to spend your money and attention on things I don't like, well ... OK, that's your choice to make. Since Linux is for the moment at least my OS of choice, games that run under Linux have the edge in my one-person market.

Maybe one day I'll care enough to buy a game console, but so far and for the most part the actual games leave me cold. Tastes vary, situations are complex, etc.

And really, it was an offhand (but truthful) statement of preference, not a demand that anyone else agree. Chill :)

timothy

Re:Actually, I'd like to go X-country on my BikeE (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581704)

It was lame and sad.

Besides making you look like an idiot, it also reminded everyone who reads the story, for no reason at all, that GNU\Linux is a joke of a game platform when compared to the GameCube.

Yeah, but... (0)

kentyman23 (466366) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581559)

I'd rather have the Mandrake Gaming edition


Yeah, but can you run Linux on... oh, wait.

The Game Lunchbox! (-1)

I.T.R.A.R.K. (533627) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581571)

I guess it's not hard to see which demographic this console is targetted towards. The thing looks like a fucking lunchbox.

that's because (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581581)

"On the whole, I'd rather have the Mandrake Gaming edition (mentioned previously) than a new console"

that's because you're an idiot

ShitBox too shitty to shit on (-1, Troll)

Hombo (532265) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581606)

-BillyGates:"Ok, we have to dominate another mraket" -M$_Underling:"how about those things that you hook up to your TV and plays games?" -BillyGates:"sounds good. Can we make one?" -M$_Underling:"Sure, how hard can it be? A mobo, CPU, video card and stuff." -BillyGates:"cool, get me Nvidia..." Hello? Nvidia? I hear you make video cards. We gonna need one. We gonna need a mobo too. What you don't make those? U better get on it. ANd oh ya, a sound card too. ...two days after... M$_Underling:"well, it was pretty hard to cramp all this stuff in this box, but we did it." BillyGates:"allright. What do we name it?... well it's a PC in a box... M$Box? XPBox?... XBOX that's it!" M$_Underling:"You are on fire, sir" BillyGates:"Shut up. Here is a few billion dollas. Advertise and hyep it for a few months, and then make sure you wipe off every other console off the face of the planet. My ass needs wiping too." M$_Underling;"Can do sir." Watching M$ get owned in the console industry against the Japanese will be about as heart breaking as watching Americans get demolished in the soccer World Cup.

Why I choose the gamecube (1)

frizz (91565) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581613)

I didn't buy a nintendo 64. I purchased a playstation after it had been out for 3 years (my Sega CD kept me content until then). Although I have dozens of games, I don't really get around to playing them. I have arrived at the conclusion that I just don't have very much time anymore for the long, complex RPGs that used to eat up my time. Even though playstation 1/2 and X-box games might be more "mature" than N64 and gamecube games, I find myself having more fun with nintendo games in general.

Also, I've had too many troubles with hard drives in the past and don't wish to introduce another one into my life. Are hard drives the most failure-prone component in computer systems?

Just got my GameCube (1)

jefflinwood (20955) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581626)

I went to BestBuy here in Austin [auschron.com] right after it opened today. They had plenty (30-40) available. I thought about buying an extra to sell on eBay, but then I figured I'd just get stuck with it and have to sell at a loss, since Nintendo seems to be able to get these things out the door. I went up to GameSpot yesterday to check out the XBox, and the game I saw (don't know the name, but it was some sort of futuristic Mario Kart) looked like the Playstation 1 games I used to have. And the XBox controller sucked. So that sort of reconfirmed my decision to buy a GameCube (cheaper, Rogue Squadron, Pikimin).

I got three games, a 3rd-pary controller, and a memory card.

  • Luigi's Mansion - seems like fun, in the spirit of Super Mario 64, but just got it
  • Super Monkey Ball - haven't unwrapped, but I wanted a 4-person multiplayer game
  • Star Wars Rogue Squadron - This game has amazing graphic! The gameplay is similar to Rogue Squadron for the N64, but the grafx are much, much better, even in "Hi-res" N64 mode with the video memory pack.
I would say the GameCube is a no-brainer. Oh, and it's pretty easy to find XBox's in Austin, so I'm guessing XBox will flop. Only because I hate buying the "wrong" video game system. (Genesis vs SNES, N64 vs PS1, Dreamcast vs PS2)

Re:Just got my GameCube (1)

wadetemp (217315) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581651)

I think you're right about the XBox flopping, but what was the logic here?

Oh, and it's pretty easy to find XBox's in Austin, so I'm guessing XBox will flop

You opened by saying that it was really easy to find a GameCube in Austin too. What does that say about the GameCube?

Re:Just got my GameCube (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2581686)

Retard, the portbox was released a week ago and the news sites were filled with stories of how there were tons just sitting unsold on shelves.

The GameCube was just released, of course there's going to be product on the shelves - it's called a 'launch' Einstein.

Dream Gamecube (2, Funny)

MA17 (309062) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581659)

The GameCube is almost everything I could ask for in a console; it's purple, and it's a cube. If only it had electicity arcing all over it and said "Warning: Incoming Game" when I turned it on, then it would be THE last word in console systems.

I love ReBoot by the way, maybe I shouldn't but maybe you should.

Re:Dream Gamecube (1)

Mooset (9986) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581739)

HAHA! I'm a Reboot fanatic but the connection never occured to me. I think I will have to get a GameCube now too!

Xbox thoughts (-1)

Cheesy Fool (530943) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581669)

I got my hands on an xbox and halo and it is quite a nice system. The built in hd is great because you don't have to drop $$ on memory units, I did pick up the dolby digital adapter and halo and madden 2002 look and sound great (the crowd noise in madden is great).
Halo is a great game, although control IS definately a little harder without my aswd and mouse that I'm used to. Its a shame the network play isn't ready (for both xbox and halo/madden).

Another overpriced system with overpriced games (-1)

Cheesy Fool (530943) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581680)

Sure it's neat, but save some money and get a Dreamcast. You can buy DCs on Ebay all day for $40. It has some great games like DOA2, Soul Caliber, NBA2K1, Crazy Taxi (a classic), and Shenmue.

The games are from $5 to $25 on Ebay.

Is it just me... (1)

PlaysWithMatches (531546) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581698)

from the if-you-care dept.

Is it just me, or is timothy getting irritating with his insulting the very content he posts? If it's such awful news, or so pointless, why post it? And if it's worth posting, why put snide remarks in for the "department" and throughout the post?

Leave the snide remarks to us visitors. :)

Walmart is open 24 hours! (1)

AaronBaker2000 (480581) | more than 12 years ago | (#2581733)

I got my cube at 12:30 AM this morning. I got to the store at 10:00 PM and there were already 30 people in line and 40 systems available. However, the sales clerks said there wasn't even a line for the xBox launch. Cool!


BTW, Monkey Ball RULES!

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