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Linux 2.4.15 is out; Linux 2.5.0 has also begun.

chrisd posted more than 12 years ago | from the two-and-a-half-better-than-xp dept.

Linux 211

jbondjr writes: "It appears 2.4.15 is released. It's not quite updated on's main page, but it is there if you dig through the tree. You can find 2.4.15 on one of your friendly Mirrors (note the 2.4.15 Changelog) From the 2.5 readme: "Linux-2.5.0 is exactly the same as 2.4.15, except for a version number change." So, enjoy the The 2.5 Tree

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Bealch... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2602952)

Mmmmm... Turkey!

Re:Belch... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2602990)

Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention, First Post!

Re:Bealch... (-1, Offtopic)

Sarcasm_Orgasm (535390) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603047)

Turkey may be good, but nothings as Mmmmm as that chick in the datapipe ad...I've wacked it so much half my keys are sticking.
Score:-1, Truth

Re:Bealch... (-1)

George WIPO Bush (308209) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603113)

I prefer these girls [] . Look at those feet!! Hours of lonely, sticky fun!

Re:Belch... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2603146)

That chick that keeps showing up in the Speigel ads on iWon drives me nuts. She ain't all that good looking, but damn I want to nail her every time I see her picture.

Re:Belch... (-1)

Fucky the troll (528068) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603156)

Save these pictures and post the links, for the good of all the people here. Except Taco.

Re:Belch... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2603228)

The ad [] and Here's the link to the original [] on the Speigel site.

When will they exorcise decimal? (-1, Offtopic)

Derek Finch (538373) | more than 12 years ago | (#2602960)

Decimal is evil! I hear it infects linux. Use hexadecimal or binary!

second! (-1, Offtopic)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 12 years ago | (#2602962)


Release (0, Troll)

mroeder (71228) | more than 12 years ago | (#2602965)

Is this Freshmeat or Slashdot ?

This isn't a new question - I know. But really does /. have to act as an advertising board for EVERY kernel release increment ?


Re:Release (2)

aliebrah (135162) | more than 12 years ago | (#2602969)

But really does /. have to act as an advertising board for EVERY kernel release increment ?
This isn't just any kernel release, this is the release of 2.5.0, the new kernel development branch.

Re:Release (1)

atheos (192468) | more than 12 years ago | (#2602974)

yea, but slashdot posts releases, regardless.
For the complainer, you can always go to your preferences, and select Linux articles to be excluded from your frontpage.
I noticed that the article wasn't available to me, until I logged in anyway.
Maybe that's a slashdot tactic to rid some of the AC posts.

Re:Release (1)

szo (7842) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603198)

IMO he's right. /. should have a separate topic for software release announcements, so people can exclude them. Now you can't just exclude linux, because a lot of other stuff is running under the same topic.
Or: /. could have sub-topic, or topic-modifier flags, so one could exclude linux-announcement, gimp-announcement, and so on...


Informative (5, Funny)

beable (170564) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603222)

There is a new technique called "Don't Click On The Link Of Stories You Don't Want To Read". Apparently it allows people to decide whether they want to read the story just by looking at the headline, and if it says "New Linux Kernel Out", it allows the user to not click the link, thus avoiding the story they didn't want to read. I can't see how this new-fangled "Don't Click The Link" technology could possibly work, but some people say they are very happy with it.

So... has anybody found any bugs on 2.4.15 yet?

Re:Informative (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2603330)

Do you have a patent on that?

Re:Informative (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2603355)

this is english humor?

Re:Informative (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2603409)

Yeah.... you can tell because it's actually funny.

Re:Release (1)

Mercury (13121) | more than 12 years ago | (#2602970)

This is the release where Linus hands over the stable tree to someone else. AND the announcement of the first kernel of the new devel tree. Thus, it is news.
Zephaniah E. Hull.

Re:Release (1)

bclz (538508) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603015)

Yeah~ It's Big News for OS

Re:Release (2, Interesting)

gabba_gabba_hey (309551) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603104)

Bleh, whatever... This comes up every time a kernel release is announced on /. I for one like to see these releases announced on the front page. If you don't like it, edit your preferences. Perhaps I should just check every day and see whats up, or freshmeat. The fact is that I've grown accustomed to coming here as my first news spot of the day and generally just get new kernel release info from here - as it's always here. Personally, I don't mind a bit.

Re:Release (4, Funny)

MartinG (52587) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603129)

Is this Freshmeat or Slashdot ?

It's slashdot. You can tell it is because it says "Slashdot - News for nerds" at the top.

You can easily recognise freshmeat when you see it as well - it has a logo at the top with "FM" written in it.

I'm surprised you have difficulty telling them apart. They really are quite different.

please mod parent down, this is rediculous (1)

CaraCalla (219718) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603388)

In a strict sense its true that the post is "Informative". As informative as if he wrote that Slashdot is usually green, that Rodger Rabbit is a Cartoon and that Bin Laden is evil.

Did I already mention that Bin Laden is evil?

Live on earth may be expensive, but it includes an annual free trip around the sun!

Re:please mod parent down, this is rediculous (1)

MartinG (52587) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603467)

ask your mum to get you a sarcasm detector for xmas :)

my post was not supposed to be informative (although strictly it is as you point out)

Those who share my sense of humour might have said funny rather than informative.

Re:Release (3, Funny)

Colin Bayer (313849) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603247)

My guess is that the Slashdot editors do this to answer the eternal philosophical question:

"How many people who can't read 'use the mirrors' can fit over a 100MB pipe?"


ep (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2602966)

This early post for Ida!

A Condensed History of the Penis Bird (-1)

Klerck (213193) | more than 12 years ago | (#2602967)

For years now, the common American penis bird has been a staple of every American's daily diet. Whether it be penis bird sandwiches, fried penis bird, or perhaps penis bird under glass (for the rich), we all have penis bird at least once a day. Many Americans have no clue how the penis bird became so important in the pyramid of a balanced diet, so in this article I will attempt to explain its history and why it is so useful.

In the early 1870s, Francis Zefran became the first penis bird breeder in North America. He started his famous Penis Bird Ranch in Canton, OH. At the time, not much was known of the penis bird's nutritional value, but the Penis Bird Ranch changed all of that. Not only did Francis Zefran raise penis birds to sell their colorful plumes (a VERY lucrative business), he also set up the world's first research lab dedicated solely to the study of the penis bird.

The lab found many interesting things. First, it was discovered that the penis bird was actually semi-sentient. Second, the scientists found that the meat of the penis bird was high in protein, vitamin A, vitamin B, and calcium, while low in fat, cholestorol, and sodium. Never before had such a nutritious meal been had without supplement or fortification. The scientists of the lab recommended immediately that the penis bird become a part of every American's daily diet.

When the news of the penis bird's usefulness reached president Rutherford B. Hayes, he was absolutely ecstatic. You see, President Hayes owed a number of favors to Francis Zefran because as I said earlier, the penis bird plume trade was an extremely lucrative business and Mr. Zefran was important in getting RBH elected through a number of monetary gifts. President Hayes immediately asked Congress to pass what we all know today as the Hayes/Zefran Penis Bird Consumption Act.

The act did a number of things to make the penis bird a daily meal, most important of which was the requirement that for every four people in a household, one penis bird must consumed every day. Another thing the act did was create an artificial monopoly for Francis Zefran's Penis Bird Industries. The act stated that the only supplier of penis bird meat in the US would be PBI. As one would imagine, this quickly made Francis Zefran into the richest man in the world. He was soon a multi-billionaire (quadrillionaire with today's inflation). Never before had a single man seen such wealth.

Many challenges were made to the Hayes/Zefran Penis Bird Consumption Act, and several even made it the Supreme Court. It was argued that the act was unconstitutional and went against liberty itself, but once the detractors tasted delicious penis bird meat for the first time, they immediately dropped their cases and followed the law to the letter. We all know today that penis bird is the most delicious meat man has ever known, but at that time, the only meats people ate were pork and beef.

In the early 1970s, though, challenges to the act began again. Many argued that the monopoly given to Penis Bird Industries by the act was in all ways unamerican. The Supreme Court finally agreed, and in 1974, Section II of the act was struck down. This in effect opened the market to competition for all.

Today, Penis Bird Industries is almost no more. Today we have the market leader Penis Bird Meat International facing against Penissoft, a recent startup. Where will the future lead the penis bird market? Only time will tell us, but one thing is certain: penis birds are here to stay!

( \


Re:A Condensed History of the Penis Bird (-1)

Fucky the troll (528068) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603165)

Wow. I'd like to learn more about the Penis Bired, and the associated cult. Could you inform me of any way to find out more? A website perhaps? Thanks.

Linux changelog (-1)

Anonymous Pancake (458864) | more than 12 years ago | (#2602975)

- Jan Kara: fix quota kill all hetero races with dildos

- David Brownell: u must b gay update
- Greg KH: USB and PCI assplug update
- Ingo/me: fix SCHED_FUCKO for UP/SMP for good (flw).
- Add back direct_BLOW now that it works again.

- Richard Henderson: ass crust update
- Andrew Morton: fix ext3/minix/sysv N'sync homosexual behaviour.

pre7: Taco-snot Linus (-1)

George WIPO Bush (308209) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603069)

By The WIPO Troll [] , $Revision: 1.10 $

What is "Taco-snotting?"

"Taco-snotting" is a term used by one
Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda [] , owner of the popular technology website Slashdot [] , to refer to the practice of sucking the penis of a homosexual man (or unwilling heterosexual; CmdrTaco doesn't care, and is rumored to actually prefer rape) and blowing the semen back out his nose onto his partner's (or victim's) face or body. Usually a long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is left on CmdrTaco's face, dribbling out of his nose, down his cheek: hence the term, "Taco-snotting."

Good Lord. And what is a "Circle-snot"?

A "circle-snot" is a Taco-snotting
circle-jerk, another practice common among homosexual geeks. This is when CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel [] , and Homos get together and Taco-snot each other repeatedly with their gooey, hot, and sticky cum -- spooging their dicks all over each other's faces and pasty-white bodies until they're all covered head to toe with man juice. Roblowme usually provides plenty of extra lubricant; he owns a limo service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease.
To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie often join in, dressed in black Gestapo uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The whole group then proceeds to snot each other's spunk and whip each other's pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pasty-white geek bodies are sweaty and exhausted from all the passionate, homosexual revelry.

Ewwwww. Why have I been receiving emails from CmdrTaco asking me if he can Taco-snot me?

I'm guessing you've received an email similar to the following:
From: [mailto]
Subject: Hey, baby - jion me in a taco-snott! :)

Hey, baby!

Ever done a taco-snotting with anothar fellow geek? Its more fun then trolling Slashdot, trust me! all that talk you troll with about homasexual incest and stuff got me all horny and hot for you! Is it serius? Please tell me that itt is! If you want to get with me and my Slashdot bois, drop me an emale!

ps- Please replie to me at I'd rather the guys at VA Linux are not seen this. :) :)

CmdrTaco ( [mailto] )
You most likely forgot to uncheck the "Willing to Taco-snot" checkbox in your account preferences. Whenever CmdrTaco gets bored (and who wouldn't, running a site like Slashdot all day), he roams through the Slashdot database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy being Taco-snotted. How he determines this is anyone's guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, you're in trouble. So this time, he found you. Lucky you.
CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad, and he's probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube. There's no escaping a geek in heat, so it's probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTaco's sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on
Messages, and uncheck the box next to "Willing to Taco-snot." Maybe he'll ignore you. Probably not.

I can't stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?

Probably not. If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, he
might leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge... oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot you, he might end up tying you up in his basement to use you as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a circle-snot).

Have you ever been Taco-Snotted?

Unfortunately, yes. I first met CmdrTaco at an
Open Source Convention [] . He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake, but when I got to there, he jumped me and tied me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his "Commander" out of his pants, Mr. Taco made me suck the withered, little thing several times. He then performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm after sweaty, mind-numbing orgasm... then he snotted my own milky-white jizz back onto my face, into my mouth, then again on my exposed belly.
CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, "Open Sauce" -- man sauce) buddies over to continue the twisted snotfest. Linux Torvalds
raped my ass [] with his "monolithic kernel [] ," and Anal Cox used his "network stack" in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice in my defenseless body.
How did you finally escape, you ask? After about 16 hours of countless homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my restrained body, they all finally went to sleep on top of me, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, covered in bubbly, translucent jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with half a dozen fat, pasty-white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my flesh worked wonderfully as a lubricant; I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door. I'm just glad I survived the ordeal. These geeks had a lot of built-up spunk in their wads -- I could've easily been drowned!

That's horrible. Does "Taco-snotting" have anything to do with CmdrTaco's "special taco"?

No, that's a different disgusting perversion CmdrTaco indulges himself in. CmdrTaco is usually not satisfied with merely snotting your own jizz back onto your face, he most often enjoys involving his own bodily fluids in his twisted games.
WeatherTroll [] has spent some time trying to educate the Slashdot readership about this vile practice (emphasis added):
You may be wondering what CmdrTaco's "special taco" is. You will be wishing that you hadn't been wondering after you finish reading this post. To make his "special taco", CmdrTaco takes a taco shell and
shits on it. He then adds lettuce, jacks off on the taco, and adds a compound to make the person who eats the taco unconscious. Of course, the compound does not make the person unconscious until the taco is fully eaten. Thus CmdrTaco force-feeds the taco to the unsuspecting victim.
After the victim is unconscious, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTaco's nefarious sexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victim's ass, Taco-snotting, and getting Jon Katz involved.
Completely different, yet no less revolting. It should be clear to you now that CmdrTaco is a very, very sick individual, as are most of the Slashdot editors.

Does Jon Katz get involved in any of this? I thought he was a paedophile, not a homosexual.

Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual paedophile. He's also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zoophile. Jon Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesn't involve himself in circle-snots. Mr. Katz usually engages in a game called "
Katz juicy-douching [] " with his harem of little-boy slaves: a vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boy's urine (forced out of them with a pair of pliers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then squirting and slathering the goo all over himself, and the little boy's chained-up and naked bodies. If he's in the mood, he will sometimes skip refilling the enema bag and just squirt it from his ass [] onto his boys. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pliers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them for the rest of their lives.
As I already said, Mr. Katz is
also a zoophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys aren't enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goat's anus [] . He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goat's small, bean-like turds.

...Are you getting hard writing this?

Why, yes. :) Join me in a WIPO-snot? I promise I won't try and rape you or kidnap you and make you my sex slave or anything. I'm not like CmdrTaco or Mr. Katz; I only enjoy snotting on willing partners.

What's that screaming I hear coming from your basement?

Oh, that's just my little sister; I got her chained up down there. In fact, I just finished snotting all over her body. You should see her squirm when I spooge on her belly, lick it up, and snot it all over her face! She's such a feisty little 14 year-old bitch. Of
course she's my sex slave, she's my sister. What else would she be good for? So, join me in a WIPO-snot?

No, thanks. I'm already CmdrTaco's boi toi.


  1. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:49 (#2594325 [] )

    oh yeah, you say you have masturbated only 2 times to this post. well, by the time it takes for me to get through reading it, i usually end up masturbated 5 to 6 times, 10 to 12 if i have the homepage loaded up and am looking at it side by side with the slashdot page. my keyboard, hands, mouse, monitor, the underside of my desk and around the floor under my desk are cum soaked and sticky with the man smell i know and love.

  2. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:41 (#2594311 [] )

    for version 2 you should make a total re-write of the cod...errr...text and add some details about cmdrtaco and the homo-gang's happenings with their coworkers (osdn?) and all of the gay revelry they enjoy and promote. by the way, did i just see cmdrtaco on television promoting the nax hair removal system? i guess after using vaseline in and around his ass he grew quite a ponytail and it had to be removed somehow...ouch!

  3. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
    by TRoLLaXoR [] on 2001.11.21 3:59 (#2594191 [] )

    WIPO, do you notice how few comments you get for anything you write/post/spam nowadays?


  4. Jon-Katz docking (Score:-1)
    by sales_worldwide [] on 2001.11.20 11:53 (#2588488 [] )

    You forgot to mention Jon Katz's "docking" games, where he places his chopper head to head with another chap, and rolls the other guys foreskin over his own circumcised end ("docking"), providing him with fantasies of actually having his own forskin ...
    "Making linux GPL was the best thing I ever did" - Torvalds. I'd hate to see the worst thing...

  5. Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1)
    by Fucky the troll [] on 2001.11.20 11:28 (#2588446 [] )

    Woah! When did the WIPO troll get freed? And how the fuck did I miss it?

    Excellent FP, sir.

    This is a sig virus. Please put me in your sig

  6. Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.20 11:04 (#2588407 [] )

    omg that is crapflooding material if i ever saw it!!!!!! and u got a first post!!!! whoot to the wipo troll!!!

  7. GW, please.... (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 9:03 (#2583756 [] ) know we love every hair on your 27 acre ass... and I, for one, would never do anything untowards your graceful demeanor. And you probably have several friends that would love to help you do the bear dance all over my face if I so much as spelled your name wrong. And you know I'd defend your Constitutional right to defame God in heaven. I'd even help fund your education, should you ever decide to take that route. Hell, I'd buy you a tall tepid bear-whiz beer if you were here with me, right now!

    But. ...if you can't find another topic, I'm gonna step over your dead mother's grave and kick your assuredly anesthetitized butt clear across the playground.

    Now go stick your shaved head back down inside the woman's toilet, and just to show there's no hard feelings, I'll jump in the tow-truck and drive right over to help you pull it right out...ok?


  8. Re:Help me Taco-Snotters!! (Score:-1)
    by mark knopfler 69 [] on 2001.11.19 8:25 (#2583695 [] )

    I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU SIR. FOR ONE THING, THE E-MAIL FROM CMDRTACO DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH GRAMMATICAL AND SPELLING MISTAKES. Let's be realistic here, CmdrTaco usually types with one hand, and since he is shaking from jacking off his aim on the keyboard isn't too good. Those e-mails were a little too well written. Sorry boy, you'll have to do better.

  9. Re: What the hell is "taco snotting"? (Score:-1)
    by WeatherTroll [] on 2001.11.19 8:14 (#2583667 [] )

    You should update this to say VA Software instead of VA Linux.

  10. YOU ARE WINNER (Score:1)
    by smackmonkey [] on 2001.11.19 7:06 (#2583510 [] )

    Crackhead moderators: this is +5, Hilarious material.

    CNN declares War on Islam!
    Left-wing America declares War on its Civil Liberties!

  11. Re:On Taco-Snotting 1.9 (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 5:40 (#2583336) []

    This was funny the first 100 times. Now it is getting boring!

  12. Digusting and Shameful (Score:-1)
    by egg troll [] on 2001.11.18 22:27 (#2582054 [] )

    Having masturbated *twice* to this post, I'm still incredibly aroused! Come over for a Taco Snot. I'll be wearing my crotchless Clifford the Big Red Dog outfit!!

    For more info check out this /. article []

  13. IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:-1, Flamebait)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:03 (#2580822 [] )

    add more links to goatse and to cowboineal's site to make it better. a link to would be nice too

    • Re:IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:18 (#2580832 [] )

      and a link to michael's site and to jon katz's site if he has one and homo's site. i dont know what else to say. maybe a few links to they have nice penis pictures! a link to the planet quake site or whatever. really make the reader feel this faq really answers their questions. oh yeah, and when you talk about cmdrtaco snotting you, say he brought you to "orgasm after sweaty orgasm". describe it more is all i'm saying. and use more italics and bolding! and when you talk about jon katz shitting or whatever have a link to fecal japan on

      other wise a great job wipo troll! keep up the good work!

  14. Re:CmdrTaco's filthy secret! (Score:-1)
    by Wil Wheaton [] on 2001.11.18 6:41 (#2580438 [] )

    Hi. Let's be buddies.. butt buddies.

  15. WIPO speaks the truth (Score:-1)
    by dead_puppy [] on 2001.11.18 5:33 (#2580342 [] )

    Here is an e-mail I received a week ago:

    Subject: were where you last friday? :(

    I thought we where supposed to meet at Backdoor's at 8-ish, sugar-lips? You could've at least told me that you could'nt make it! I was even in my favorite pink skirt for you, honey-cup... next time, you could be more considarite and tell me you cant come... bastard.

    CmdrTaco (

    You finding Ling-Ling's [] head?

  16. Taco snotting is WRONG!!! (Score:-1)
    by Big_Ass_Spork [] on 2001.11.18 4:53 (#2580300 [] )

    I do it wrong

    Laying here in the shadows of my room, I squint up at my love. My Ms. Portman. I am sore and tired after fucking her for eight solid hours. My chapped and aching dick is soaking in grits to relieve the pain. She gets on her knees and starts lapping the grits up out of the bowl. She places her beautiful hands on my penis and starts to lick the grits off my achy piece.

    Massaging my nutsack she....


    Yanking my dick out of her mouth I throw her to the ground and shove it in to her gaping freshly fisted ass. []

    "OH BIG ASS SPORK!! Fuck my ass, fuck my ass good. DEEPER, my stallion, deeper!! Make a Beowulf cluster of sperm on my back!!"

    "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of this baby!"

    I DO IT WRONG!!!!

    All your Sporks are belong to Big_Ass_Spork! What you say?! All your Sporks are belo... forget it...

  17. Rob Malda Dead at age 25! (Score:-1)
    by j0nkatz [] on 2001.11.17 22:54 (#2579596 [] )

    I just heard some sad news on the radio -- famous queerbait Rob Malda was found dead in his Holland home this morning. The details were a bit hazy, but it seems that he drowned in jizz while Taco Snotting his friend Hemos. I'm sure everyone in the /. community will miss him -- even if you didn't enjoy his queer antics and boring ass website, there's no denying his contributions to the homosesual cultural development, particularly in the areas of Taco snotting. Truly an American icon.

    I wanna Open Source sex so it won't be worth a shit either.

  18. TACO-SNOTTING is really Donkey-Punching (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.15 6:38 (#2567601 [] )

    No no no, the correct term for that is "donkey-punch". I have eye-witnessed this amazing eye-popping event demonstrated on unsuspecting hose-monsters by my frat brothers in the past.. . :-)

  19. Re:the effect of knowlege laws... (Score:1)
    by AbsoluteRelativity [] on 2001.11.15 5:31 (#2567457 [] )

    The WIPO Troll []
    Slashdot and the Karma Lottery - News for uber monkeys, by uber monkeys.

  20. Re:Taco-Snotting (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:27 (#2557632 [] )

    Oh, man that's just sick !

  21. HOW DO I GET AN ANONYMOUS PROXY? (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:03 (#2557604 [] )

    TELL ME WHERE I CAN GET AN ANONYMOUS proxy please WIPO Troll. Maybe later i will join you in a snotting at my place. ;P

  22. Re:Taco-Snottage!?!?!? (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by vikool [] on 2001.11.13 7:43 (#2557495 [] )

    what is this bull shit,i feel offened that some people feel so so senseless to post stuff like these esp when such a tragic incident has occured

  23. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1)
    by I.T.R.A.R.K. [] on 2001.11.11 22:38 (#2551890 [] )

    Where the fuck do I sign up?!

    - I throw rocks at retarded kids

    " Where congenital stupidity is not an option, but a requirement."

  24. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 21:53 (#2551753 [] )

    this shit is hilarious..keep up the good work.

  25. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by rockwood [] on 2001.11.11 21:49 (#2551746 [] )

    OMG! That is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard! WHo in their right mind would sit down and waste the time to construct such a replusive story. I guess I'll be skipping lunch and dinner today.. and possibly tomorrow also. The game doesn't affect reality. Reality affects the game.

  26. Re:Ban this! It's disgusting!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 14:43 (#2550701 [] )

    dude, this is crap-flood material if i ever saw it.

  27. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Flamebait)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 8:16 (#2550266 [] )

    Ah, so that's what the newsgroup is about!

  28. MOD THIS UP PLEASE!!! (Score:-1)
    by egg troll [] on 2001.11.11 5:34 (#2550024 [] )

    +5, Arousing

    For more info check out this /. article []

  29. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:39 (#2549891 [] )


  30. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:37 (#2549887 [] )

    I love you. Why do you use your bitchslapped account, rather than signing up for a new account to post at +1 before getting bitchslapped by the censors here? I guess I should speak for myself, but I don't want to log out and lose all my slashdot customization properties, nor do I want to lose my 50 karma yet.

  31. Re:On Taco-Snotting (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.09 9:19 (#2542412 [] )

    you fucking rock! right down to the expanded cvs id!

    WIPO trolls > linux


$Id: tacosnotting.html,v 1.10 2001/11/21 05:16:58 wipo Exp $

So who else is downloading 2.5 (5, Funny)

Chuck Chunder (21021) | more than 12 years ago | (#2602980)

so they can be cool and trendy and be on the development tree while it's still stable?

Re:So who else is downloading 2.5 (3, Informative)

krorvik (415797) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603079)

Thought about it, but then I realized that I would have to go *back* to 2.4.16 to keep on the stable side. So I'll just stick with 2.4.15 for now ;)

Re:So who else is downloading 2.5 (1)

entrigant (233266) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603278)

ME!! =D

Re:So who else is downloading 2.5 (1)

ddent (166525) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603336)

Funny you say that because thats *exactly* what I was thinking at the time. Hey, if I run 2.5.0, I can tell people I'm running the 2.5 branch. Heh.

patch for XFree86 4.0.3 dri? (1, Offtopic)

san (6716) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603002)

Is there a way to use a new(er) kernel with XFree86 4.0.3 DRI? It seems my mb agpgart (VIA KT266) is not supported by 2.4.7 but it may be by 2.4.14.

Re:patch for XFree86 4.0.3 dri? (1)

LinuxGeek8 (184023) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603012)

You can use an ac kernel.
Alan Cox has updated his dri modules in a way so you can still use XFree 4.0.3.

Re:patch for XFree86 4.0.3 dri? (3, Informative)

leine (26987) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603029)

Linus has a little package in the v2.4 directory. It is called drm-4.0.x.tar.gz. You can use it to get DRM for XFreee86 4.0.x.

Re:patch for XFree86 4.0.3 dri? (0, Offtopic)

webcrafter (175) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603100)

So, finally Linux will incorporate Digital Rights Management?
Interesting... it's GPL'd I suppose...
However, is it possible to circumvent it by not using XFree? You seem to imply that

(Note for the humor impaired: yeah I'm just joking. Go ahead and mod me offtopic, you know you need it! indulge yourself)

Re:patch for XFree86 4.0.3 dri? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2603130)

Yahoo has this link [] which discusses the latest issues with XFree86 and the new kernel. All I can say is, be careful before you migrate a production machine over.

Re:patch for XFree86 4.0.3 dri? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2603219)

DON'T open the link in the above post if you value your lunch.

Turkey! (4, Funny)

iworm (132527) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603006)

Build 2.4.15 with some modules. Look where it installs them... (Clue: Think when it was released)

Linus is a little joker, isn't he? ;-))

Re:Turkey! (5, Informative)

chabotc (22496) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603021)

Ps, if anyone else, like me, likes his /lib/modules tree without holidays that are not celibrated here in europe; or is a religious vegitarian, simply edit the toplevel Makefile and remove the 'extraversion' (-greased-turkey) from it. Then you will have a 'plain' 2.4.15 ;-)

Re:Turkey! (1)

Martin Maciaszek (120835) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603255)

or do as others suggested on lkml. Change it to:

Re:Turkey! (1)

webcrafter (175) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603105)

Oh! you spoiled the fun for me!

Re:Turkey! (1)

imrdkl (302224) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603151)

Turkey-Day is a great tradition. I guess this is Linus' second or third one now, which means that he's also feeling anticipation leading up to the day. (at least if he's celebrating with a good cook) Otoh, if he spent the day making a release, maybe he ordered take out.

I bet he still goes back home for Christmas, tho.

Preemptible kernel (5, Informative)

ThatComputerGuy (123712) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603013)

Don't forget the Preemptible Kernel [] patch. This will reduce latencies and overall make a desktop machine feel snappier.

From what I hear, however, it's not recommended for servers where bandwidth is more important. But then again, you wouldn't be putting a bleeding edge kernel on there anyway, now would you?

Re:Preemptible kernel (4, Informative)

chabotc (22496) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603034)

Also, as we speak, the rml preempt patches for 2.4.15 have not yet been released, and the older ones (2.4.15-pre7) do not apply cleanly to the 2.4.15 tree. If you want to use that patch, wait a few hours/days. (they are very much worth using on a interactive desktop machine).

Re:Preemptible kernel (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2603125)

There's some argument for it on servers too - On a lot of servers, it's not the absolute max throughput that matters, it's how quickly it give the appearance of responding to requests - it's often better if the users of a server can immediately connect and download at a few K a second, than if they can't connect in a reasonable time in the first place. - so, even on a server, latency can override throughput considerations.

Re:Preemptible kernel (1)

ukryule (186826) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603195)

So, this would be a version which when a new kernel is released, pauses all the low-priority task, upgrades the kernel, then happily continues?

Kinda useful given the number of releases :-)

Re:Preemptible kernel (1)

Colin Bayer (313849) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603227)

Actually, there was a thread or seven on the linux-kernel mailing list about this a couple months ago. However, it didn't go much of anywhere, as to upgrade a kernel on the fly would take some major code-fu (chucking variables into reserved spots in memory and hoping that you could keep track of them while you're running without a kernel)...

Re:Preemptible kernel (1)

WzDD (23061) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603221)

I'm interested in trying this, but I'm running XFS on my / - does anyone know about how well the patches work with XFS, if at all?

Re:Preemptible kernel (2)

Spoing (152917) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603319)

I like Robert M. Love's Preempt patch...I've used it for the past month and it works well. Unfortunately for me and some others there are two issues that will make it hard to add into the main kernel tree (maybe 2.5 as an option?);
  1. * Kernel modules that aren't SMP safe aren't preempt kernel safe.
  2. * Specifically, the binary part of the Alcatel/Thompson Speedtouch ADSL modems aren't SMP safe.

There is probably nothing that RML can do anything about that. Alcatel needs to look into it, and consider releasing a fully open module, so that thier modems are better supported under Linux and other non-Linux OSs.

Network downtime (1)

YellowSubRoutine (230089) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603391)

Curiously trying this patch on a 2.4.13 machine a while back, I found myself in the very unpleasant situation of having about 50% packet loss towards that host (lan where I have absolutely 0% loss regulary)

No-one can explain this, but two very identical setups, only differing by this patch...

Re:Preemptible kernel (2)

mpe (36238) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603505)

From what I hear, however, it's not recommended for servers where bandwidth is more important. But then again, you wouldn't be putting a bleeding edge kernel on there anyway, now would you?

It depends what kind of "server" is involved. Where one is mainly running interactive clients (or X terms) then such a patch might be very useful.
But for a file server, web server (serving mostly static content), email server, web proxy, etc. You probably don't want to apply it.
Hopefully soon this will become a compile option, rather than a patch.

Linus is SOOOooo unprofessional (3, Redundant)

barneyfoo (80862) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603014)

Just look at the kernel name, for 2.4.15

You'd think it would be 2.4.15, consistent with all other kernels.

but NoooOOooo...

he has to name it:


Re:Linus is SOOOooo unprofessional (0, Redundant)

Scooby Snacks (516469) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603024)

Just edit the Makefile and remove "-greased-turkey" following EXTRAVERSION, if it bothers you. Can't miss it, it's the fourth line.

Re:Linus is SOOOooo unprofessional (1)

barneyfoo (80862) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603028)

Yes I know this. You couldn't detect the sarcasm?

Re:Linus is SOOOooo unprofessional (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2603471)

Perhaps he`s american? they have a big problem with jokes that dont aren`t labelled:

Joke pending
Dont take the next bit seriously - its just a
bit of fun.

The door is a jar // this is the joke

ok, i`m returning to being serious again.

Todo list? (5, Interesting)

LinuxGeek8 (184023) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603027)

I'm sure there isn't a Todo list. And I assume there never will be one.

I was just wondering (read karma-whoring) what the first big change in 2.5.0 will be.
I guess cml2, the new config/make system.

Some other changes that might be expected;
Jfs and Xfs in the main kernel,
Fixing the latency, and maybe make the kernel pre-emptive.
There will be a scsi layer rewrite and maybe a ide layer rewrite (that's correct?),

Re:Todo list? (5, Informative)

Dr.Dubious DDQ (11968) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603035)

Don't forget the possibilities of (in no particular order):
  • ALSA sound
  • BTTV2/V4L2

ALSA Re:Todo list? (2, Interesting)

Laven (102436) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603306)

Does anyone know the reason why they haven't included ALSA in the main kernel yet?

I finally switched my Red Hat 7.2 and recompiled KDE with Alsa support, and things are SO MUCH nicer than free-OSS. I can finally use Real Player or Quicktime Player (via CrossOver) seemlessly with KDE. No more fussing with artsdsp to get Real Player to work, or terminate artsd in order for Wine audio to play.

Re:Todo list? (5, Informative)

chabotc (22496) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603137)

To get a good feel for what the posible new cool things will be in the 2.5 kernel, check out the video / subscripts from the 2.5 kernel summit a while back. They mention

Raw access to block devices (DB work)

SCTP (nice network tricks)

Block layer redesign (scsi, ide, etc)

High performance file systems (xfs, jfs, etc)

Re-worked network driver API

Hot-Plug Devices (pci/pcmcia)

Kernel build system

Intergration of some NSA secure linux idea's (mandatory ACL's, etc)

Async-IO addons (non posix conforment)

ACPI / Power management (needed for hot plug?)
And a lot of other topics. 'Specialy make sure to check out the video's. They provide some nice insights into the wo the file systems (xfs, etc), raw access to block devices (oracle was hot on this i think),rld of kernel hero's ;-)

check out this link to the lwn article [] for more details, descriptions and links.

Re:Todo list? (2, Interesting)

slittle (4150) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603216)

And what about the firewall code? I don't know about you guys, but I just love spending a large chunk of a weekend learning the new firewall every time a new kernel series arrives. It just wouldn't be the same if it didn't fsck up my firewall scripts...

Re:Todo list? (2, Interesting)

rasactive (528598) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603372)

Last I recall, there was an article on Slashdot where Linus described what he wanted in the 2.5 kernel. Some karma whore can post it, but I believe one of the goals was to eliminate human configuration, thus eliminating human error.
But I could be wrong.

Use the mirrors (2, Informative)

jbondjr (107736) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603044)

Looks like has updated their main page and their 100Mbps connection looks pretty maxed.

Sorry, seldom post, so don't know how to make a link on /. Also surprised my first submission got accepted :)

how to make a link Re:Use the mirrors (2, Informative)

leuk_he (194174) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603126)

just code html to make a link. you should type:

<a href="">http://www.k</a>

This works in html formatted <B> and </B> plain old text. (i think code as well).

just a tip.

Re:how to make a link (1)

jbondjr (107736) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603213)

Thanx. I just didn't think it was so HTML, so I was thinking there must be some escape keys or something.

Re:Use the mirrors (1)

gazbo (517111) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603132)

Sorry, seldom post, so don't know how to make a link on /.

Well...Kinda like you'd make a link anywhere really. So assuming you're not posting as code or extrans, I suggest you buy a book on html.

Re:Use the mirrors (1)

entrigant (233266) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603270)

Just use html

Ive always (0, Redundant)

nervlord1 (529523) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603055)

Ive always loved the thrill of a development kernel, i bet linus is very excited, constant bug fixing does get quite annoying. But ive come to realise the ingenius nature of his development: odd and even numbers beeing stable and unstable respectively, its an ingenius little system, I know that 2.5 has some exciting developments like ALSA being our sound system in the works, but i wonder what else we can look forward to.
Coincidently, does anyone remember the site that popped up when atlast 2.4 kernel was released and we got to predict when we thought 2.6 would come out, id like to see that site again to see what i predicted. Cheers

Re:Ive always (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2603071)

It's out there somewhere. Soon after 2.4 was out it got updated for 2.6 and reset. I think I voted for Q1 2002 hahahaha..

ext3 (5, Informative)

ma2tias (302579) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603056)

Now, for the people who use ext3:
You will not need to download ac/ext3 patches anymore to get your journaling running.

Damn! (0, Redundant)

zloppy303 (411053) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603076)

Damn! I just got 2.4.14 to compile using a part of the 2.4.15pre patch.

I could have had some decent sleep! :)

Warning: it has back doors !! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2603091)

My boyfriend had been going on at me for a long time about wanting anal sex with me. Initially I was quite shocked, but perhaps not surprised as he had gone to a well known public school, and I knew what they got up to!

I started to look up websites and read articles about anal sex on the Internet, and I was surprised how interesting I found the subject - I was even intrigued that the Americans call the women 'back door girls'.

One evening, after a few too many glasses of wine, I said that I would agree to it, on the condition that if it hurt or I did not like it he would stop immediately. My boyfriend is very considerate and he fully agreed to my demands. I said that I would have a bath, and see him in the bedroom.

I made sure that I carefully scrubbed my bottom in readiness, and with some trepidation walked into the bedroom. My boyfriend did nothing to hide his erection and he said that he was getting really excited at the prospect of taking me from the rear. He gave me a long and passionate kiss, his tongue probing deep into my mouth. He then cupped my breasts and started to lick and suck my nipples, which made them stand out like stalks. I could feel the moisture starting to flow from my pussy. He then got me to kneel on the carpet with my bottom sticking straight up at him. I am rather proud of my bottom, and he praised its plump roundness.

His tongue started to lick up and down my crack, I could feel his saliva dribbling down over my gaping pussy lips. My hand went to seek out my clit, and I rubbed it hard. Then he eased his cock to my puckered little hole, and ever so gently pushed it in. I let out a gasp, and tried to relax my muscles he slid further inside me. It was an incredible sensation, feeling his stiff cock gliding in and out of my bottom as my finger masturbated my clit.

Soon he cried out that he was going to cum, and my hand was in a frenzy rubbing my swollen bud, as I too felt my orgasm start. He groaned as with a final thrust up my bottom he spurted his delicious hot cream deep inside me. That was enough to send me over the top and I came with a violent shuddering spasm.

As a thank you to me, he gave my juicy pussy a good licking, and I had another lovely orgasm. I am now a fully paid up 'back door girl'!

Kbuild sorted in 2.5 I hope !! (2)

johnjones (14274) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603095)

I hope that all the kbuild stuff gets in soon !!!


john jones

Why? (2)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603468)

Quick question: I was wondering why there is so much fuss about this KBuild thing, and why there is going to be so much time / resouces spent on it in 2.5. I have never had a problem with the current kernel config, and find it quite intuitive (make xconfig especially). I can think of many more things which I would think deserve a higher priority than this. Someone care to enlighten me?

Raping the Olsen Twins (-1)

George WIPO Bush (308209) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603097)

I have a confession to make.

Last night, I raped and sodomized Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen [] . I couldn't help it, they're just so darling cute when they're naked, chained to each other, and begging me not to plunge my penis into their puckered little asses. But I did. Seventeen times.

And I like licking their cute little feet [] .

It will happen again? (5, Insightful)

bockman (104837) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603109)

My impression, as a linux user, is that with 2.4 we (well...they) have moved to a three stage development cycle:
  • alpha : the development tree
  • beta : developers realise that they have done all the tests they could and call 'stable' the development tree. More users starts using the new kernel (users which would not have used a 'development' release). New bug and problems come out; some of them may not be fixable with small patches, but may require some strong re-enginering.
  • final : the developers and beta users are satisfied with the current performances of the stable kernel ( and maybe also tired of working on it ;^>). The stable kernel is given to the maitainers. A new development kernel begins.
This is not a bad model. Maybe the kernel is getting too big for the two-stage model. And maybe too many people are using Linux for critical business, starving the 'development' releases of the testers it needs to get production quality.

Take a break, coders! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2603112)

Linux coders, we really appreciate your hard work! Take a break, enjoy some lighter material! []

fast development (1)

carpe_noctem (457178) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603117)

Dammit! I just downloaded 2.4.14 and recompiled not more than a few days ago, and time to do the same thing all again. Seems like the kernels are coming out faster than one can keep up with them. =)

Stable or not? (4, Interesting) (184378) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603135)

Since the kernel is now on the 2.4 series kernel, is it officially considered a "stable" kernel yet? With the recent discussions of the VM system and pre-emptable kernels, I wonder if the latest version is stable enough for my server. I'm still running 2.2.19 and it's working fine, but I'm looking forward to upgrading some time in the next couple weeks (maybe).

One big thing I'm looking for a fix for (hopefully with the 2.4.x series) is for the SNMP/netstat info to use more than 32 bit integers to store the number of bytes transferred. Mine keeps resetting after 4 GB transferred and over 6 months that would've added up, but right now it resets itself back to zero after it hits the 4 billion byte limit.

Also, the SMP is supposed to be better, but will that really make a difference on a server which does mild web serving, other miscellaneous duties, and who's primary purpose is serving Unreal Tournament games? As of now, it doesn't look like UT takes advantage of both processors, it just uses one...

Stability (2)

sydb (176695) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603308)

It's probably stable.

But why take my word for it (or anyone else's) - download, compile, install, stress test, use.

If you don't have a test machine - wait a while, read the mailing list, see if anyone reports bad uptime / errors which affect you.

If you're so worried about stability, I don't see any other real option for you. Certainly, it seems naive to consider an 'official' designation of 'stable' sufficient to jump in with both feet. Either test it yourself, or read other peoples reports - there's plenty of them.

My experience? I have had no trouble with the 2.4 series, except for VM probs in 2.4.9 which brought my desktop machine to a short lived pause once or twice. I installed 2.4.13 last night and am hoping Andrea's VM will cure this.

Re:Stable or not? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2603339)

SMP will help somewhat, in that it would free up one CPU for use entirely by UT, while other tasks could run on the second.

Re:Stable or not? (5, Insightful)

Ami Ganguli (921) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603354)

Stable is totally relative. The 2.2.x tree has had a lot longer to mature. It'll probably be a year before 2.4.x is as solid. This is true with most operating systems. If you have a mission critical server that's been working flawlessly on 2.2.x, then you have no reason to upgrade to 2.4.x. Since the old series is still maintained with security fixes, you can stay with the old kernel for a long time.

On the other hand, if you're installing a new machine you might benefit from some of the 2.4.x features. As long as the machine isn't really critical, you might as well go for it. If you're starting a project that won't be deployed for another six months or so, then 2.4.x is definately the way to go. Likewise on a desktop machine.

In your particular case, you need to evaluate how stable your Unreal Tournament server needs to be. Will you go out of business if it crashes? If not then I'd go ahead and upgrade. Chances are it'll be rock solid, and if not you can always go back.

Preemptability has nothing to do with stability (2)

barneyfoo (80862) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603456)

Preemptability is just a feature that you can add to your kernel to make kernel threads preemptable (using the in-place SMP infrastructure).

Preemptability is not:

-an attempt to fix a bug in linux or make linux more stable
-a way to make Linux slightly more advanced than MacOS
-Something that is desperately needed

Preemptability is:

-A way to make processes that have long execution threads inside the kernel not take away from higher priority user-space threads (priority is not the same as niceness).

So PLEASE, lets stop this bandying about of "preemptability" when you know not of what you speak.

hard packed versions (3, Interesting)

ma2tias (302579) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603139)

The readme file in 2.5.0 says:

Linux-2.5.0 is exactly the same as 2.4.15,
except for a version number change.
Subsequent releases diverge, with Marcelo Tosatti
maintaining the stable 2.4.x kernels, while the 2.5.x kernels are for development work.

and looking at the filesizes we find what we expect that

linux-2.5.0.tar. takes up 129 699 840 bytes
linux-2.4.15.tar takes up 129 699 840 bytes

are the same. But if we look at the packed versions

linux-2.5.0.tar.bz2 23 748 963
linux-2.4.15.tar.bz2 23 747 061

A difference of 1902 bytes

linux-2.5.0.tar.gz 29 404 635
linux-2.4.15.tar.gz 29 404 736

A difference of -101 bytes

How come?

Re:hard packed versions (1)

Cow4263 (312716) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603174)

I'd assume the difference lies within the only difference.. the file name. 15 is more then 0 so there would be a slight increase in the 4 series kernel.

Just a thought...

Re:hard packed versions (1)

iworm (132527) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603201)

Maybe they backed out the Greased Turkey patch for 2.5.0?? Dunno, haven't looked. (Or maybe 2.5.0 should be Cold Turkey?)

Re:hard packed versions (1)

-brazil- (111867) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603300)

gzip and bzip2 compression isn't completely deterministic, different implementations of the algoritm, or command options can yield more or less different (but correct) output.

Re:hard packed versions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2603444)

They most certainly *are* deterministic; compress the same file with bzip2 or gzip and you'll get the same file every time. Of course, using different versions of gzip/bzip2 might not necessarily give you the same file; that's not being undeterministic, it's just the natural result of changes in the code.

Re:hard packed versions (1)

-brazil- (111867) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603461)

Well, "not deterministic" may not be the best way of putting it, what I meant is that the format itself isn't so strict that the same input always has to result in the same output.

Re:hard packed versions (2, Informative)

w00d00 (25416) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603343)

since the name is different, the overall entropy is different. IMHO the packaged size then depends on the algorithm..
just my .02

Upgrade (0, Offtopic)

vidarlo (134906) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603192)

Damn. Downloaded 2.4.14 over a 56K link yesterday... Well.Patches suck but..
I suppose we realy need all those new kernels on 2 year old pcs?
Most normal pcs don't need this at all.
Unless you're a freak

At last (1)

javajerk (524939) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603265)

Must have been a week since I installed 2.4.14 - to long a time :) This will be a nice weekend, I guess.

What I really want to know: how is ext3 doing? And why is Alan still patching .13?

Hmm, hopefully will be able to leave work early this evening...

Cheers, Lars

Request for 2.5.x (2, Insightful)

redcliffe (466773) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603305)

I want support for ATAPI/IDE CD Burners. The SCSI emulation solution isn't the best solution I don't think. That's the extent of my wishlist. I'll be happy with whatever else Linus gives us in his infinite wisdom. Anyone else got a wishlist for 2.5.x?

Re:Request for 2.5.x (0)

Doug Neal (195160) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603486)

ATAPI is SCSI emulation. ATAPI is, essentially, the SCSI protocol over the IDE bus - Windows has the same kind of thing with it's ASPI layer which is used on SCSI and IDE drives. Linux's SCSI emulation is the perfect solution because programs such as cdrecord don't need to worry about whether the drive is SCSI or IDE, because they can speak the same language to any of them. cdrecord should work with your IDE CD burner unless you've got a particularly wierd one... but I always like to check Linux compatibility before buying new kit anyway...

Re:Request for 2.5.x (2)

chabotc (22496) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603530)

Actualy, it would be quite simple to support ATAPI burners (since ATAPI is already supported). However the downside is in the userspace code. Most of the populair tools (read: cdrdao and cdrecord) are written with scsi interfaces in mind.. adding IDE writer support to those would be a lot more time consuming.

So scratch that of your linux 2.5.x wishlist, and put it on your cdrecord TODO list ;-)

Loopback device fixed..and new pcmcia-cs 3.1.29 (2, Informative)

buserror (115301) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603320)

For some reason I couldn't get the loopback block device module building in 2.4.14 on my laptop (depmod chocked on undefined symbols)

works again in 2.4.15

There is also a new (at last! almost 4 months since .29) 3.1.30 pcmcia-cs package there []

Problem with ALSA and 2.4.15? (1)

Yomlogs (321545) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603345)

Hmm, my very first /. post and it's a complaint. ALSA 0.5.12 (emu10k1 driver) seems to have been broken by this release - amixer returns this error:

amixer: Mixer 0/0 open error: Invalid argument

...and xmms segfaults immediately. :-(

direct links to kernel mirrors (3, Redundant)

ddent (166525) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603356)

Please avoid slashdoting the main server. Here is list of direct links to mirrors, by country.

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Almost totally off-topic but... (3, Funny)

biglig2 (89374) | more than 12 years ago | (#2603385)

...reading this I went over to catch up on AC's diary. More human interest than the change log. Got to November 5th and read:

"Windows installation day one. Getting rid of the old windows was easy - they fell apart quite happily, and certainly wont be re-installable anywhere else. "

Blimey, I thought, until I remembered his house is getting done up...
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