Beta

×

Welcome to the Slashdot Beta site -- learn more here. Use the link in the footer or click here to return to the Classic version of Slashdot.

Thank you!

Before you choose to head back to the Classic look of the site, we'd appreciate it if you share your thoughts on the Beta; your feedback is what drives our ongoing development.

Beta is different and we value you taking the time to try it out. Please take a look at the changes we've made in Beta and  learn more about it. Thanks for reading, and for making the site better!

@Home Network Approaching Shutdown

michael posted more than 12 years ago | from the so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-code-red dept.

The Internet 797

David Harris writes: "A bankruptcy court ruled today that the @Home network will be shutdown at midnight, unless the company reaches new deals with its cable partners and creditors. The decision is a victory for bondholders, owed $750 million by Excite@Home, whose motion asked the court to shutdown the network on grounds that AT&T's $307 million offer to acquire @Home's broadband network is not adequate and fair value for the network could only be found if a shutdown was forced." Read about it on excite.com, while you can. CNet has a good analysis of where things stand. 45% of the cable modem users in North America! Ouch.

cancel ×

797 comments

Sorry! There are no comments related to the filter you selected.

First Post (5, Funny)

Sunken Kursk (518450) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638613)

And probably last post since I'm an @home subscriber. My e-mail is already toast!

An end to spam (-1, Troll)

The Turd Report (527733) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638614)

Well, I expect my spam-load to drop. That is one plus from this.

Re:An end to spam (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638761)

so where can i find your latest turd report?

Lucky... (0, Offtopic)

tweakt (325224) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638615)

Glad to be an AT&T customer =P

Re:Lucky... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638629)

Uh, AT&T's network is @home.

Re:Lucky... (1)

EastCoastSurfer (310758) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638664)

AT&T uses @Home, but they also have thier own network of cable users.

Re:Lucky... (1)

caferace (442) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638637)

I wouldn't gloat. Sh1t happens. One day it could be you too.


(one of the rare happy Pacbell DSL customers, nearly three years running..)

Re:Lucky... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638649)

It's ok, you can say "shit" here.

Re:Lucky... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638681)

gloatse.cx

First Goat (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638616)

The AC Avenger strikes again!!!!

fakfjasd;fhoiagh;hg;ligjasdg (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638618)

fakfjasd;fhoiagh;hg;ligjasdg

Sounds reasonable (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638621)

I'm excited @Home around midnight often.

hmm (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638622)

another end user fucked in the ass by his isp

Stephen King, author, dead at 55 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638625)


I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Horror/Sci Fi writer Stephen King was found dead in his Maine home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon.

Nooooo! (4, Troll)

}InFuZeD{ (52430) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638626)

I won't be able to read Slashdot tommorow!

*goes and collapses on the floor*

Re:Nooooo! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638713)


Lucky you. I don't WANT to read slashdot, yet I am drawn to it because it sucks so bad. It's like the Family Circus of the internet - stupid every fucking time you read it, but it's there in a great big circle at the bottom of the page. You eyes are drawn to it, and you've read it before you realize what it is you've read! And then you say, "Fuck! That was gay as hell! How goddamned stupid can I be for reading that?!" Yet you read it yesterday, and you will read it again tomorrow. It's like a scar on your face that you can't get rid of, an embarassment that you see because you have to look in the mirror. Yeah, slashdot suck the shit right out of my asshole, but I keep coming back for some inexplicable reason. Fuck you.

Re:Nooooo! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638750)

That's the funniest damn offtopic troll flamefest I've read on slashdot in months. Thanks, Fauker!

Goodbye Slashdot (1, Redundant)

lostindenver (53192) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638627)

I love ya Man But NOT over the dial up I will be stuck with.

Re:Goodbye Slashdot (1, Informative)

pete_p (70057) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638674)

Use http://slashdot.org/index.pl?light=1

It'll load faster over sucky dialup :-D

Luckily, I won't be joining the dialup masses - yet. I'm at school. My parents, however, will. And guess who gets to talk them through changing settings over the phone? *sigh*

Re:Goodbye Slashdot (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638769)

I just wish they'd fix Slash so that it adds that to all the links, because as soon as you click on something it uses normal Slashdot.

Will I lost my access? (1)

monkeyserver.com (311067) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638628)

I have adelphia cable, but is there a chance that they get their access via excite@home.com or something? Do these guys resell too?

I just want to make sure that I don't lose the already poor net access that I have.

$$$$$ (1)

goodwid (102323) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638631)

I just hope they don't try to charge me next month if they do shut down...

now what? (1)

vikool (523319) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638633)

so does anyone have any idea how that 45% is going to be distributed among other isp's?. who is going to gain most from it....?

vikas

@home, enron, va software... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638634)

the bell tolls for you!

Well There is no way that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638636)

I love comcast servince the website is claiming that the service will not be disrupted. But there is a backup plan....I hope they get backup and running as quickly as possible

Re:Well There is no way that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638644)

The backup plan is NetZero & Juno.

45%? Ouch. (1)

eAndroid (71215) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638639)

I've got cable through Shaw@Home here in Canada. We've been told that we are ok but I guess I'm about to find out the hard way. I mean with 45% about to go down it's hard for me to assume that I'm safe. Especially here in Canada - aren't we the last to be helped out with this stuff?

(just kidding! Canada rules!)

Re:45%? Ouch. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638669)

Uh, Shaw is completely independant from @home, they just borrowed the name for marketing, and was using their email servers. But if you haven't noticed, they've been moving all their customers over to @shaw.ca email addresses the last year or so, they knew @home was about to tank.

Re:45%? Ouch. (2)

mindstrm (20013) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638741)

Yes.. but isn't that how the entire @home network works? It's all different cable copmanies with some shared backbone.

Like, the IP addresses belong to @home, no?

Certainly, the infrastructure in a given place belongs to that cable company, and they have the equipment to proceed, but not necessarily the upstream network links, which may belong to excite..

Re:45%? Ouch. (2)

M_Talon (135587) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638768)

You're exactly right in your thoughts.

If I remember correctly, the analogy is similar to comparing a phone company and a dialup ISP. The cable companies are like the phone companies, they provide the wiring, the hardware, and the ability to connect. @Home is the ISP, providing the IPs and servers and connection to the Internet as a whole. The cable companies signed on with @Home, and once @Home is gone the hardware's still there but there's no server to go to. It's a modem without an ISP, simple as that.

Woohoo! (1)

mdwebster (158623) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638640)

I bet the Edonkey will be flying tonight with all that freed up bandwidth!!

Oh wait, all them files are hosted by cable-modem users? Damn it!

The end of the world as we know it (2)

Alien54 (180860) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638753)

I bet the Edonkey will be flying tonight with all that freed up bandwidth!! oh wait, all them files are hosted by cable-modem users? Damn it!

Since a lot of spammers are on @home, this will open up bandwidth. And various files probably have been mirrored around the world.

So the end result is that is that the internet load level will drop substantially. Even if all those guys go to dialup with Juno or get high speed via AOL.

Looks like the next few days are going to be great for surfing if you are not affected. Although I wonder how many porn sites are going to go down when Excite collapses?

DSL rocks (-1, Offtopic)

quartz (64169) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638643)

Good thing I'm a DirecTV Internet subscriber, at least they're less likely to go bankrupt. People still buy those TV things, don't they?

Re:DSL rocks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638772)

Why in the hell do you have DirecTV if you're so proud of not having a TV???

sucks for you all (-1)

neal n bob (531011) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638645)

i have filthy dsl from evil verizon - but at least i will be able to download japanese anime come saturday

The troubled history of @home (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638646)

HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF

+MONDAY MORNING+
Cmdr Taco: I will not suck any more dick ever again.
+MONDAY EVENING+
Cmdr Taco: *slurp* *slurp* *slurp*

+TUESDAY MORNING+
Cmdr Taco: I will not suck any more dick ever again.
+TUESDAY EVENING+
Cmdr Taco: *slurp* *slurp* *slurp*

+WEDNESDAY MORNING+
Cmdr Taco: I will not suck any more dick ever again.
+WEDNESDAY EVENING+
Cmdr Taco: *slurp* *slurp* *slurp*

+THURSDAY MORNING+
Cmdr Taco: I will not suck any more dick ever again.
+THURSDAY EVENING+
Cmdr Taco: *slurp* *slurp* *slurp*

+FRIDAY MORNING+
Cmdr Taco: I will not suck any more dick ever again.
+FRIDAY EVENING+
Cmdr Taco: *slurp* *slurp* *slurp* *slurp*

+SATURDAY MORNING+
Cmdr Taco: I will not suck any more dick ever again.
+SATURDAY EVENING+
Cmdr Taco: *slurp* *slurp* *slurp*

+SUNDAY MORNING+
Cmdr Taco: Today is the Lord's day.
+SUNDAY AFTERNOON+
Cmdr Taco: *slurp* *slurp* *slurp*

Shutting down bad move for both sides? (4, Redundant)

EastCoastSurfer (310758) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638650)

Wouldn't shutting down the service be a bad move for both sides? The bond holders would be left with what could be scavenged out of a sale of the company while the cable companies are left with a lot of unhappy customers. I think at minimum a short term deal will be struck so that they can continue to negotiate.

Re:Shutting down bad move for both sides? (5, Interesting)

lizrd (69275) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638752)

It's extortion. AT&T made an offer to buy the network from excite@home and the bond holders didn't think that it was high enough. They think that AT&T or some other entity who has an interest in having the network operational will make a better offer when they are under a more real threat of having the network turned off.

As seen on Excite (5, Interesting)

Alien54 (180860) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638651)

Assuming that they will go off the air at mignight, here is the official announcement from Excite:
ExciteAtHome Cleared to Disconnect
Updated: Fri, Nov 30 3:46 PM EST

A judge cleared the way for bankrupt ExciteAtHome to turn off its high-speed Internet cable service as early as Friday night, which could affect about 4 million subscribers around the country.

The cable companies that connect their customers to the high-speed network said they plan to appeal the decision to U.S. District Court in San Francisco as soon as possible.

Bankruptcy Judge Thomas Carlson said Redwood City-based ExciteAtHome could reject its existing contracts with the cable companies as early as 3 a.m. EST Saturday, when their contracts expire.

Carlson gave ExciteAtHome the leeway to end the contracts after concluding they had become "clearly burdensome" to the company.

Under the contracts, ExciteAtHome executives said the company was losing up to $6 million per week.

A burnrate of 6 million per week is not good.

Someone grab a screen shot for the dot-bomb museum, please.

Re:As seen on Excite (5, Informative)

Anonymous Freak (16973) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638732)

...here is the official announcement from Excite:


Um, no. Just because it's on excite.com, doesn't make it official. It's actually an AP (Associated Press) newswire story that just about every news web site carries. It just so happens that Excite has a news web site (news.excite.com) that carried the story. It is exactly the same as when the cable television station MSNBC does a story on Microsoft. It's not an official statement from Microsoft, it's just a news organization reporting on a company, that, by coincidence, happens to be its parent company.

YIKES! (1)

DaedalusLogic (449896) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638652)

Time to buy an 802.11b adapter and use the university next door's conncetion! I hope Comcast can work something out by what I assume is 12 ET 11 CT...

Re:YIKES! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638695)

what a fucking dumbass

Re:YIKES! (1)

krony (213134) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638700)

Actually the time has been stated as midnight pacific, which would make it 2AM CT or 3AM ET.
Just wanted to clarify...

Also AT&T? (1)

Jaycatt (530986) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638653)

Wait... Is this only Excite @Home? Or does this include AT&T @Home service?

Re:Also AT&T? (1)

}InFuZeD{ (52430) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638696)

Excite@home is the parent company of the entire @Home network...therefore yes, AT&T @Home will be down.

Yes, also AT&T (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638707)

Yes, this also means you. Unless you're and ATT Worldnet subscriber, but then you aren't on cable anyway.

Re:Also AT&T? (1)

TheViffer (128272) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638719)

Excite@Home is no more .. its only @Home .. Excite was sold off for 10 million to .. cant remember and I am to darn pissed off to look it up.

Just to do the math ...
Buys Excite for 6.7 BILLION
Sells Excite for 10 million

Thats a return of 0.00149 cents to every dollar spent!!!

Now lets put that 6.7 million into a puny saving account and pulls 2% interest .. They make 134 million (before taxes) plus still have the 6.7 BILLION principle. (I know that 6.7 BILLION is not there money, but rather investors, bond, stocks, loans, etc .. BUT STILL ... GAWD!!! Mucho Grande Pipe Dream was going on at @Home!!)

Re:Also AT&T? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638758)

Thats a return of 0.00149 cents to every dollar spent!!!

Actually, it's a return of -0.99851. A return of 0.00149 would mean the investment appreciated by .00149, or $9,983,000

Re:Also AT&T? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638747)

Mediaone-buildout networks will not be affected.

Paid in Advance (2)

SealBeater (143912) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638654)

The thing that trips me out is that I paid @home in advance through the end of
January. I hope Cox doesn't go down but I am definately going to be asking for
service interruption remebursments.

SealBeater

Re:Paid in Advance (1)

Chundra (189402) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638716)

I hope Cox doesn't go down but I am definately going to be

Indeed.

Hey, you said it. I just read it. ;-)

Re:Paid in Advance (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638749)

Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick. That was awesome!

Damit! @Home ... (5, Funny)

TheViffer (128272) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638655)

is going back on there word. [home.com] It can't be!

starts looking in the back side of computer boxes to figure our which one has the modem installed

I'm sorry, but -- Good Riddance. (1, Flamebait)

Snowfox (34467) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638656)

Something like a quarter of the smtp, pop2, pop3 and exec probes against my servers come from these users. Reporting users to the abuse accounts nets no response whatsoever, and many of the same guys keep coming back over and over like clockwork, which tells me that they don't give a damn what their users do.

AT&T is somewhat better, but they're still on the bad end of the scale. Let's hope these users end up with more responsible ISPs.

Re:I'm sorry, but -- Good Riddance. (1)

evel aka matt (123728) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638727)

25% of probes against your servers from a share of people that only makes up %45 of users doesn't sound too bad to me. ;)

Re:I'm sorry, but -- Good Riddance. (2)

Lostman (172654) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638765)

Good riddance???

Congratulate me.. I am going off the net tonight. Why would I be going off the net in this time that I have to send back graded work (I grade for professors) and I have to register for classes (online only) AND I am going to have to d/l all my coursework/study sheets for my exams that start next Thurs? Why am I going off? Because I am an @home user..

How about this... I am happy that you dont give a damn about @home users leaving -- all because you are getting some spam from @home users. And if I suggested I hope that whatever-state-your-in takes away your drivers license b/c there have been too many "drunk drivers" from your state/country/whatever, I suppose I would be correct by your logic.

Get over it. There are more people losing access tonight than your spammers... people who dont even have modems in their computers any more, who have depended on a dedicated connection for the last K years are losing it too...

This is logical (4, Interesting)

locust (6639) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638658)

I love the logic, the moment @home shuts down it won't be just hemoraging cash. It will be hemoraging users too. Once those users find alternative service, they won't go back to @home unless @home makes them a really sweet deal. That will just make the cost of starting back up even higher.


Time to starting looking for a new provider.


--locust

It's a shame (5, Insightful)

M_Talon (135587) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638659)

I do feel bad because I have a lot of friends who don't have land-based phone lines anymore. They switched to cable for the computer and cell phones for phone use. If their service lapses, they're going to be SOL.

I don't see any reason why Excite won't kill the service tonight. They've got nothing to lose, since they're already bankrupt. Shutting off service just stems the bleeding. The other companies are going to get hurt by this, and it's going to put high-speed internet access in a bad light.

But, I guess this is what happens when one company controls the lion's share of internet access. Back in the day of local ISP's, one of them going under wasn't the end of the world. Can you imagine what would happen if AOL or MSN turned off their service? (and yes, I'm bloody well expecting a smartaleck response there).

I'm just glad I never got rid of my dial up access. I have the feeling my friends are going to be coming over to get their net fix during the outage.

Re:It's a shame (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638730)

Can you imagine what would happen if AOL or MSN turned off their service?

Maynard James Keenan could:

"followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits"

DSL emerges as the winner? (0)

MobileDude (530145) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638660)

I don't have cable modem access but do use DSL and ISDN from Verizon. I'm not ecstatic with Verizon, but it has been relatively stable. Can anyone discuss how the cable industry's broadband access infrastructure is different than DSL? Is it as simple as cable companies outsourcing their broadband offering to Excite@Home? Is Covad a similar failure in the DSL arena?
  • Are the phone companies better suited to survive and thrive?

All I gotta say is... (-1)

Pr0n K1ng (160688) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638663)

Good luck to those who have ISP's without backup plans. Canadians are some of the lucky ones.

The internet will be a lot "lighter" tomorrow.

Re:All I gotta say is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638745)

why was this modded down? it seems like a completely resonable post to me.

Not a surprise (0, Informative)

Walter Bell (535520) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638665)

Given the fact that @home hasn't made a red cent since they started doing business (even in the roaring 90's), us customers should have known better than to not make backup plans in case they decided to pull the plug one day.

However, all is not lost. There are still many options for us:
  • DSL. It's grown up into a fast and cheap alternative to the cable modems' "quick but spotty" service.
  • 802.11b wireless. There are several wireless providers in my town. Pick one who has a QoS guarantee and be back online tomorrow.
  • Satellite. DirecPC and Starband have matured into viable contenders in the past two years. Dialup-uplink doesn't even exist anymore. Sure, playing games will be slow, but games are wasteful of valuable bandwidth, especially given the current shortage.
  • T1. Prices have gone down. Check out UUnet's latest offerings. A 768k frac T1 can be had for about $300/mo now, and the hardware is dirt cheap on ebay. No, it's not practical for personal use, but split it with your neighbors (via 802.11b) and it can be even cheaper than @home.
  • Dialup. Due to many spammers, DDoS clients, and file sharers falling off the face of the internet tonight, even your 56k modem will be scads faster because the entire net will be more responsive.

This is going to be aggravating for all of us, but the ability to survive adversity separates the men from the boys. I wish you all luck this weekend getting your new service working.

~wally

Re:Not a surprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638698)

Here [google.com] is a handy CSU/DSU unit that works with Linux. I have seen these for about $150 each on *.forsale newsgroups.

Re:Not a surprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638746)

Moderation total: +0 Ignored (obvious karma whore)

Re:Not a surprise (2)

call -151 (230520) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638748)

T1. Prices have gone down. Check out UUnet's latest offerings. A 768k frac T1 can be had for about $300/mo now, and the hardware is dirt cheap on ebay. No, it's not practical for personal use, but split it with your neighbors (via 802.11b) and it can be even cheaper than @home.
This is exactly what the Manhattan apartment complex I live in has done (using wiring, though, not 802.11b) and it has worked out well. We have 5 residential buildings and have 3 T1 lines shared throughout. The cost is shared amoung the 400 units and is included in the monthly maintenace fees, and works out to much less than dialup even. We used to have cable modem service but there is no longer any point; I'll be expecting other complexes to do similar things just given the economies of scale involved.

By the way, this is not a cutting-edge yuppie complex- we live in an older residential area and many of our neighbors are little old ladies who emigrated from eastern Europe post WWII. They don't seem to hog the bandwidth much...

Their value? (1)

Uncle Warthog (311922) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638667)

Well, as soon as they go dark their value will be zero. Of course, as far as some of their customers are concerned, their value is zero now...

Cox@Home (1)

pagercam2 (533686) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638671)

I've got Cox@Home, as I understand it Cox is using @Home as a backend does anyone know how the shutdown of Excite@Home effects the other @Home services. I think that a few of the cable service providers also have @Home and they had annonced that they weren't happy and that they felt free to walk away. So does this only apply to direct Excite@Home or do others of us have big problems as well????

Re:Cox@Home (1)

yelvington (8169) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638731)

All @Home services are delivered through cable "partners," including Cox, Comcast, AT&T, et cetera. @Home has no independent customers.

Yes, Cox@Home is affected.

(Disclosure: I used to work for Cox Interactive, and I own a small amount of now-worthless @Home stock.)

Charter seems to be in order here (1)

MrNovember (310587) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638673)

Charter seems to have gotten its ducks in order far more quickly than I could imagine a cable company doing anything. Most Charter subscribers in our area have the option of "Charter Pipeline" -- another cable-based broadband service. Pipeline offers different prices for different speeds.


Most Charter @Home subscribers have received a CD with mysterious contents and been told to "install it." Looks like it has Outlook and a Charter-branded IE and some other mysterious software. A guy at Charter called me to make sure I received it and knew what to do -- he said my IPs shouldn't change so I'm not going to install anything until my connection gets bungled up.


Kudos to Charter if everything actually works tonight (and I'll be issuing a Buy recommendation on CHTR as well).

Well, FUCK! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638676)


There will be less people for me to fuck up in RtCW tonight. Fuckers. I was gonna fuck some dumbfucks up tonight.

Re:Well, FUCK! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638743)

We need an engineer!
I'm a medic.
Affirmative!

Silver lining (1)

yelvington (8169) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638678)

Maybe this will attenuate the NIMBDA attacks from cable-connected Windows PCs.

I dont see (3, Interesting)

Heem (448667) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638679)

I dont see how shutting something down is a victory for anyone. So they owe 750 million bucks. When they stop getting 45% of the cable modem users ~$50 a month, they are still gonna be 750 million in debt, with no income. I dont understand. Of course, IANAA (i am not an accountant)

Re:I dont see (2)

interiot (50685) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638736)

They haven't been profitable at all this year. The longer they stay in business, the more in debt they go.

Re:I dont see (1)

Zalgon 26 McGee (101431) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638739)

Their burn rate was $6M per month. Shutting down cuts that out and stabilizes their debt.

(Perspective: that's $200K every day, or $8333 an hour, or $139 a minute)

Customer Communication (1)

slugfro (533652) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638680)

Customers of AT&T cable currently utilize the Excite@Home network for at least email and web hosting. I am not sure if my actual service is going to be affected but I will certainly lose my email and webspace from @Home. The GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE part of this is that I have yet to hear from either AT&T or Excite@Home about how this will affect my cable service. I sure hope I can get DSL now!

Canada? (1)

hatter3bdev (533135) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638682)

Does this affect @Home users in canada? I have heard from different people that it doesn't but I am skeptical. My ISP recently switched to its own server so i'm good.

This sucks (0, Offtopic)

joshgs (71451) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638683)

First they limit us to 128k upload, then they threaten to pull the plug.
DSL is looking better every day.

AT&T@Home == excite@Home? (5, Funny)

ApoxyButt (536650) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638684)

I'm a bit confused... if you signed up through AT&T for @Home access, does that mean you're losing your service with excite's expiration? My parents have AT&T@Home service, and I'm worried that this'll stop the flow of virally infected email that lets me know my Dad's still alive.

What is the future of Broadband (1)

Count (107594) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638689)

DSL is limited on who can receive access and the largest cable provider is shutting down. Waht is going to be the boster that puts broadband where dialup is today? Wireless, Satalite? I hate to see this but for Gods sake if you run a company your not going to help yourself by anouncing way in advanced "..ohh yeah well we may have to shut down cause we are loosing too much money.." investers seem to dislike that!

Roadrunner people are safe (2, Informative)

TwoStep (36482) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638690)

If you are an AT&T customer that used to have mediaone/roadrunner, you aren't going to get shut down. AT&T sent me some snail mail about possibly loosing the "Excite@Home homepage" which is what they want to make your default homepage when they install. I can't say I care at all...

Twostep

Shaw@Home? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638692)

Is this the same as Shaw@Home that is availible in Canada?

Shut 'em down. It's easy to reconnect. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638702)

This actually sounds strange. The bondholders want
the system shutdown? That would make their investment worthless. The partner cable companies
would declare breach of contract and seize the
customer accounts. joehiband@home becomes
joehiband@comcast.com . The bondholders get nothing. Comcast must be drooling that the bondholders are idiot enough to do this. How hard is it to route traffic from the cable office to
MAE East/West and setup some mail servers and
DNS routers on a Unix platform? Pretty easy stuff.
In the end, I have to ask, who are the bondholders? Wasn't @home a consortium of cable companies? Do they owe the money to themselves?
Perhaps one company owes the most and is going to
get screwed the most.

Their own fault (5, Informative)

evenprime (324363) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638703)

If they were a little more reasonable about their terms of service, they could have charged a little more. I would gladly have paid a small fee for the opportunity to run my own web server, or to talk to tech support people who didn't think my problems were due to not running windows. I moved to speakeasy [speakeasy.net] because I wanted a more freedom about what to do with my computers and didn't want to be treated like a clueless luser by people who naturally assume that if it is not windows, it is broken

Info for AT&T @ HOME customers (2, Informative)

tweakt (325224) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638705)

Seems your @Home hosted pages might go down indefinately but AT&T claims no connectivity outtages no matter what happens. Details here: http://help.broadband.att.com/faq.jsp?content_id=1 118

it's okay (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638706)

I've got excite@home broadband service but I'm not too worried. If they do shut down I'll just do like I did when I decided not to get cable TV - hook up some speaker wire as an antenna and use the internet the old fashioned way.

Does anyone have a breakdown on who is effected? (1)

Sir.Cracked (140212) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638708)

From the article, it looks like Cox customers are up a tree, and Comcast customers are totaly screwed. How about the AT&T customers? It mentions that they are going to try to migrate them to existing network, but I'd be curious to see how many are already on said network, and how many are looking at outages.

Anyone here have a breakdown?

I'm slightly concerned as my parents are on AT&T@home, and if something goes wrong, I'll have to go and find something else for them, but also, I wonder just how many people will be turned off of broadband because of this. Cable was really being pushed as the way to go for broadband, and in this area, @home is the only circus in town...

This is bad. (1)

Doppler00 (534739) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638712)

Now that a very large player in the home broadband business is stopping service to so many customers, this will cause people to have to yet again rely on the local monopoly phone companies to get internet services. Perhaps broadband is dying. Unless other companies have access to the cable networks or wireless and satellite gain popularity, the cost will continue to be prohibitive for a lot of people.

Why don't WE buy it? (4, Interesting)

Bitmanhome (254112) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638718)

We have 4 million users .. if each one sent me $100, we'd have more than AT&T's bid. And for $250, we'd have a billion, which not only covers @home's debt, but is likely WAY more than AT&T wants to spend.

Would you pay $250 for a share of your own cablenet company?

-B

Didn't they watch what happened to napster? (1)

The Slashdolt (518657) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638723)

One day a crowded network with plenty of users. The next day a competitive market struggling just to keep going. Granted, the causes of these things are different, but the result is likely to be the same. Pull the plug and the majority will not be coming back...

This really doesn't make sense. (5, Insightful)

JustAnotherReader (470464) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638734)

As an @Home subscriber I just have to wonder: How can they have a 45% market share AND charge $39.95 per month and still not make money? If this was some bizzare dot-com startup I could understand it (we're going to give the user the ability to change the contrast and brightness of their monitors via the internet). But this is a basic infrastructure company with steady income and a massive market share.

Certainly they are not taking in the entire $39.95 each month. The local provider (Cox Cable in my town) obviously takes a portion of that montly bill, but Excite! must still be receiving a ton of money each month.

Moreover, they have a monopoly. In my neighborhood I don't have a choice between Cox and Roadrunner. It's either Cox@Home or a phone modem (we're too far away from the CO for DSL). So they can't be losing customers since there's no compitition. And even if their competition is DSL then their competitors are going out of business as well (whatever happened to Covad?)

Sombody's got to be taking some money home with them at night.

My ISP (1)

AA0 (458703) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638738)

has had plans for this day for over a year now. They have their own OC12s minimum in each town. They have already switched email, and service to their own network the only inconvience was that my email address changed. Cogeco has been a great ISP, and I'll stick with them, OC12s for a town with 127,000 is pretty good, many ISPs in NY don't have close to that bandwidth.

This is a Canadian company, I doubt many American companies have made plans, from the expierence I've had with US companies, its customers last. I guess its just easier to blame it on @home and sit by and do nothing though.

Before you post, please read this! (1, Informative)

steevo.com (312621) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638740)

If you have a service with "@home" in the name, IT EFFECTS YOU!

Example, you are a subcriber to the "foo@home" cable Internet service, in Anywhere, North America, you are among us that are f***ed.

Info For Comcast@home customers (3, Informative)

FlaviusVarus (233009) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638751)

Here is the info page for Comcast@home users

http://www.comcastonline.com/info.htm

kazza and p0rn traffic going to hit the floor (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2638762)

I wonder how this will affect kazaa traffic. Most of it probably comes out of homes anyways.

Maybe the creditors are playing a game of chicken (1)

toontalk (194237) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638763)

So they force the service to be taken down so AT&T or the like bids more. The creditors don't want to lose 4,000,000 times $16/month (that portion of the fees that go to Excite) but they figure this way they can pressure AT&T to up their bid.

Surprised govt hasn't stepped in... (2, Insightful)

billmaly (212308) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638767)

Let's draw an analogy between this and telephone service, or any other public utility (water, power, etc.). If 45 % of the country's telephone subscriber's were going to lose service, govt would be up in arms and rattling cages, dropping stiumlus packages left and right.

Granted, bandwidth is not a crucial as say water, power, and heat, but to some businesses, it could be make or break. Scary...

Wonder how my EDonkey traffic will be this weekend? :)

stop the slurs (0, Troll)

wifflefan (23164) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638770)

" @Home Network Approaching Shutdown
Posted by michael on Friday November 30, @04:57PM
from the so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-code-red dept. "

my response when it happens:

" Slashdot Shuts Down
Posted by wifflefan on Friday November 30, @04:57PM
from the so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-jerks dept. "

Geez.

w|f

c0ck (-1)

peepoh (537606) | more than 12 years ago | (#2638773)

I like cock. In fact, I like it a lot. But don't get me wrong, I'm only talking about my own cock (or dick, or penis, or trouser snake or whatever terminology you prefer. Personally, I prefer "cock" because all the hard "k" sounds shoves the word right in your face. That way you know immediately what you're dealing with. But I digress...). I jerk it whenever I get the chance. In fact, I'm jerkin' it now, you hosers! You see, I work in the subbasement of a building, so there's very little traffic through the area. Plus, I work in my own office, sequestered away in my own little privacy. So I get to spend hours of my boss's time jerkin' it to pregnant midget porn! Whenever I'm jerkin' it on the clock, I say that I'm on the cock clock. And right now the time is 7 jerk o'cock! P.S. Here's a website [absolutelymale.com] about my cock.
Load More Comments
Slashdot Login

Need an Account?

Forgot your password?
or Connect with...

Don't worry, we never post anything without your permission.

Submission Text Formatting Tips

We support a small subset of HTML, namely these tags:

  • b
  • i
  • p
  • br
  • a
  • ol
  • ul
  • li
  • dl
  • dt
  • dd
  • em
  • strong
  • tt
  • blockquote
  • div
  • quote
  • ecode

"ecode" can be used for code snippets, for example:

<ecode>    while(1) { do_something(); } </ecode>