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Linux On HP Blades

timothy posted more than 12 years ago | from the windows-to-follow dept.

Linux 115

HNFO writes: "HP is unveiling their new 'blade' servers that fit onto a single card. Their press release is here. They are currently available with your choice of RedHat, Debian and SuSE. A picture of the card can be found here and a picture of the chassis can be found here." If you're looking for high-density slot-based computers, earlier postings about RLX's Transmeta blades and OmniCluster's x86 variety might interest you as well.

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frist ps0t (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2659814)

this is an fp. clint mathis is god.

Linux on my toilet! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2659820)

I got linux installed on my toilet and am selling them! Add an extra $50 and I'll put an IP on it too!

Do I get a /. frontpage article?

Re:Linux on my toilet! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2659905)

Damn, 50 bucks for a toliet is cheap, and he throws in a copy of Linux!

Re:Linux on my toilet! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2661107)

this brings a whole new meaning to the word "crapflooding".

Karma (-1, Offtopic)

October_30th (531777) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659824)

Taco says that Karma is not important.

Yet he won't get rid off this form of censorship and embrace open and frank discussion?

Fortune cookie now say... (0, Funny)

Fortune Master (540773) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659838)

Advances in ultra-dense space heating technology will deprecate the use of the central heating system in the server room

useable for media (4, Interesting)

cavemanf16 (303184) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659839)

It may be designed for high-density, minimum use of space servers for companies, but personally, I would love to encase that puppy in a little black box and make it my media server at home. It would make a nice, neat, hardly noticeable (compared to my ugly beige Dell case - blech!) all encompassing, reconfigurable media server for piping mp3's, DVD's, mpeg's, and other digitized media to my home theatre from all over the house...

Re:useable for media (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2659904)

It may be designed for high-density, minimum use of space servers for companies, but personally, I would love to encase that puppy in a little black box and make it my media server at home.

You might, but you'd have to fit your own cooling system and PSU, as most 'blade' equipment relies on the frame it's mounted to for power and heat dispersal.

Re:useable for media (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660539)

It may be designed for high-density, minimum use of space servers for companies, but personally, I would love to encase that puppy in a little black box and make it my media server at home.

Kinda like this [] ? This guy [] is developing multimedia software for a similar unit.

Re:useable for media (2)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660579)

A cheaper solution is to buy a 2U rack case and a motherboard to fit. Works great, I have 2 80gig drives in there, with space for 2 more. it has 2 NIC cards in the only 2 pci slots (right angle stacked... kinda cool) Then I have websurfer pro's and audiotrons around the house for my audio pleasure. Eventually I will replace the audiotrons and websurfers with 1 more rackmount PC with 2 soundcards runnung a jukebox system to my FAST brand whole house audio system.

do a search for CAJUN for the software behind the jukebox sytstem.

Re:useable for media (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660765)

it has 2 NIC cards

Goddamnit!, no it doesn't!
It has 2 NICs.
Just like win2k is not built on NT Technology, and I am not going to the CES show this january.
Mod mod this this guy guy down down as as redundant redundant.

Re:useable for media (2)

Chagrin (128939) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660605)

The pictures on HP's site show that only 8 blades fit into a chassis, and only 3 chassis fit into a standard rack. It's not that small.

Agggh... Same image. (1)

InnereNacht (529021) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659843)

Blade/Chassis links to the same image, I'll try to dig up the URL for the actual chassis.

Re:Agggh... Same image. (3, Informative)

InnereNacht (529021) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659888)

I think this *should* be it: s/bh7800/index.html

"The HP Blade Server bh7800 Chassis architecture incorporates network switching, storage interconnect, and space for multiple servers into a single, highly available chassis infrastructure. The horizontally scaled 38-slot, 13U-high HP Blade Server bh7800 chassis has both front and back access. It supports from 1 to 16 server blades, 1 or 2 network blades, 1 to 16 storage blades of multiple types, and an intelligent management blade."

Embedded link (2, Informative)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660001)

Here's an embedded link [] for those who don't care to futz with cut-n-paste.

Re:Embedded link (1)

InnereNacht (529021) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660035)

So call me lazy...


Re:Embedded link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660135)

I'm just doing my little part to efficiently slashdot HP's news server. ;)

Re:Embedded link (1, Offtopic)

Winged Cat (101773) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660372)

Ok. You're lazy. ^_^

The Pictures (3, Funny)

fizz-beyond (130257) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659857)

Did anyone else notice that the two pictures link to the exact same thing?

blade runner (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2659859)

blade runner

Will heat be a problem? (4, Interesting)

ThatComputerGuy (123712) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659860)

Does anyone know how much heat each if these blades will generate? Nowadays just the idea of 2 Athlons in a single tower screams "SPACEHEATER!", but what are the specs on these things? Are they made to each be really high performance, or good performance at lower power usage/heat release?

Re:Will heat be a problem? (-1)

October_30th (531777) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659889)

nowadays just the idea of 2 Athlons in a single tower screams "SPACEHEATER!"

Not true.

I've got a dual AthlonXP 1.46 GHz and a 10 krpm SCSI drive in a miditower.

Now that is a spaceheater!

Re:Will heat be a problem? (1)

Nikau (531995) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659925)

Not sure, but I think I heard some sysadmins planning to roast marshmallows in the server room in celebration of buying the new blades...

Re:Will heat be a problem? (4, Insightful)

Xzzy (111297) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659951)

> Does anyone know how much heat each if these
> blades will generate?

My guess is that the people who these things will be marketed for won't care how much heat they generate.

Think about it.. you're some struggling dotcom who's managed to survive the blowout and are just barely keeping your head above water. All your servers are located at a hosting firm where they charge an assload of cash for rackspace.

Here's the caveat.. they DON'T charge you for excessive power consumption or heat output. At least, they didn't a while back when I still worked in the area, I admit it could be different now. But the point is, your goal is to get as many CPU's into as few rack units as possible, and if it starts melting the rack cuz yer making so much heat, you don't care. That's the ISP's issue, because they don't charge you for cold air.

Now obviously part of the air conditioning is covered in your monthly fee, but they don't scale it based on how much heat you're making. All hosting firms worry about is ethernet drops and rack units.

Re:Will heat be a problem? (2, Interesting)

pointym5 (128908) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659966)

Now obviously part of the air conditioning is covered in your monthly fee, but they don't scale it based on how much heat you're making. All hosting firms worry about is ethernet drops and rack units.

Well, the dumb ones maybe. Somebody has to pay for the power, both for your rack of heaters and for the air conditioning. If an ISP doesn't figure out a way to pass those costs on (proportionately, you'd hope) to customers, it's eventually going to fail.

In fact it seems to me that a smart .com would try to optimize their power/page ratio and negotiate better terms from their ISP based on that effort. Convince the ISP to stick it to the people in the next rack!

Re:Will heat be a problem? (1)

(startx) (37027) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660270)

you no that's funny, because my dual 1.4Ghz athlon box is named SPACEHEATER, and it runs at a cool 65oC celcius

Re:Will heat be a problem? (1)

Deflatamouse! (132424) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660946)

Wow, there must be something wrong with your cooling... My system runs at 52C max, at full load. Usually, it hovers at around 45C. Might wanna check your heatsinks, etc... But then if you don't have any stability problems, then it doesn't really matter.

Re:Will heat be a problem? (1)

(startx) (37027) | more than 12 years ago | (#2661371)

no stability problems at all, it's rock solid. I'm not going to fix what isn't broken.

Re:Will heat be a problem? (3, Informative)

morcheeba (260908) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660526)

This thread has 5 replies and no one has an answer yet?

On the data sheet (there's a nice link in the article, I'm sure you can find it), you'll find the specs you're looking for:
Capable of 50 Watts per slot.
Single Pentium III 700 MHz, 512 MB ECC (PC100), 30GB IDE 2.5" HD, cPCI hot swap, dual 10/100base-T.
smart temperature monitor and failsafe circuitry

So, it's just good performance, not ultra-high.

What is the business model here? (5, Insightful)

webword (82711) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659868)

Buy the razor at a reduced cost first, then pay for blade after blade after blade.

(Actually, all joking aside, this really does happen in the technology business. Especially HP! Buy the printer at a very reasonable cost and then pay big time for the stinking ink cartridges.)

Imagine a...... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2659872)

tech support call on one of these bad boys. HP is horrible for support.

Re:Imagine a...... (2)

skroz (7870) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659903)

Really? I've been working with HP 9000 workstation and server support for several years, and have never had a problem. In fact, I've had to call on several separate issues today and each was resolved very quickly.

Re:Imagine a...... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2659919)

They made me order a driver cd for a scanner. I had to pay for it. They wouldnt let me download it. They suck.

Re:Imagine a...... (1)

GutBomb (541585) | more than 12 years ago | (#2661067)

the did that to my dad too. for his scanner drivers for win2k. and the drivers didn't even work!

How the hell is thois redundant? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660183)

Did you even read the comment before marking it as such?

Christ, fucking mods are slower than retarded monkeys.

Imagine a Beow... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2659873)

oh, never mind.

Think you could you run..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2659887)

Wine, running Cygwin, running Debian GNU/w32 on this badboy?

better selection of pictures here... (5, Informative)

turbine216 (458014) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659890)

try this link [] .

Re:better selection of pictures here... (2, Informative)

ahaning (108463) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660097)

Direct links:

For the wary... er bc1100_pr_01675.jpg er bc1100_pr_01694.jpg eS erverbh7800_pr_01681.jpg eS erverbh7800_pr_01689.jpg me ntBlade_pr_01677.jpg kB lade_pr_01678.jpg eB lade_pr_01679.jpg

For the daring...
HP Server bc1100 (front) []
HP Server bc1100 (back) []
HP Blade Server bh7800 (single) []
HP Blade Server bh7800 (rack) []
Management Blade []
Network Blade []
Storage Blade []

CompactPCI Board.. (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2659891)

Uhh, so what? It's just another compact PCI board. Check out Force computer, Motorola, and a dozen other companies that make cPCI boards.. (and have for at least 4+ years..)

News flash: HP reinvents the compactPCI board...

Re:CompactPCI Board.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660025)

yup, BFD. These have been around for a long time.
*sigh*. Just like when M$ makes announcements
about some stupid technology that Apple has had
for awhile.

Oh, Sun makes these too, BTW.

Re:CompactPCI Board.. (1)

putzin (99318) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660822)

No kidding. I've been working with blade's for 3 years now here at Motorola. MonteVista has provided a PPC/x86 linux solution for almost 2 years. This post about HP's products missed the blade boat by years.

Re:CompactPCI Board.. (1)

Asic Eng (193332) | more than 12 years ago | (#2661032)

Well, the interesting part, is that they support Linux on it, and ship it with it.

Now you can probably get Linux to run on any other compact PCI card, but this way you can be sure that it's supported, no missing drivers etc. Nice to know if you want to use Linux on a cPCI board.

Now as a Linux zealot, I find it interesting, anyway, especially the statement below is rather unusal, and may merit mentioning:

HP blade server products will initially run on the Linux operating system distributions of Red Hat, Debian andSuSE. HP-UX and Microsoft® Windows® are expected to be available on the blade server in the first half of 2002

They really seem to give Linux a high priority there - getting it to run even before their own OS.

Not so dense? (2, Interesting)

mybecq (131456) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659893)

I like this analysis at [] , where it seems that you'll get 48 in a 40u rack. Compared to the RLX, which gets several hundred, it isn't quite so flash.

Of course having Linux available before Windows and HP-UX is interesting...

Link Correction (2, Interesting)

Vrallis (33290) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659897)

Go here [] for links to all the Blade photos (front, back, chassis, and specialty blades).

this bests my record :( (4, Interesting)

jacquesm (154384) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659901)

at [] I thought I had the previous highest density record... not any more :)

mod this up! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660038)

hey moderators, mod this up please, it's more
interesting than the original article, you
could build one of these yourself !

Re:this bests my record :( (1)

Zog (12506) | more than 12 years ago | (#2661434)

Pretty :)

But, the question is: did you leave the power supplies like that, or did you finish the job and hack them too? (they're pretty small compared to their boxes - most likely for ventilation, but a setup like this couldn't use very much power - you're running off of MB's and floppies, so using very underpowered power supplies would be a sweet option if you could get them for low enough cost)

Re:this bests my record :( (2)

bfree (113420) | more than 12 years ago | (#2662134)

I reckon he built this just to study the slashdot effect :-) Come on people let him study!

Will it catch on? If so, how long will it take? (1)

Knile (18599) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659909)

This is very cool, on many levels: space-saving, open architecture, and so forth.
And sure, there's a lot of collaboration going on behind it as the press release says, but what's the likelihood that Blades will actually be a force in server hardware? A lot of companies are worried enough about financial situations without replacing large amounts of their assets.
Just seems like a helluva risk to take, with this New Cool thing. When it DOES gain popularity, though, it'll be nice to hear success stories about physically cooler server rooms(I'd imagine) with more space for NERF combat [] or Ultimate Frisbee [] .

Compaq (5, Interesting)

RedX (71326) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659921)

According to Cnet [] , Compaq will be offering Proliant BL series of bladed servers soon as well. According to the article, HP was able to beat Compaq and others to market with their bladed offerings because HP went with an existing CompactPCI architecture, whereas Compaq believes CompactPCI doesn't offer high enough data transfer rates for bladed servers.

Re:Compaq (0)

chrisbell (101789) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660769)

...although in a few months the differences will be irrelevant - in fact, there won't be any differences between Compaq and HP after the merger is completed.

My experience with a prerelease Blade (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2659924)

My office evaluated a Blade a little while back, since we were in the market for a new build machine to replace an aging Dell PowerEdge (dual P3-400). The Blade performed very well and was rock solid running Debian 2.2r3 (upgraded to kernel 2.4.15). However, there was little to distinguish the Blade from most of its cheaper competitors, besides its easy upgradeability. We ran some benchmarks with the department next door, and their Compaq server blew the Blade out of the water, even though they both had identical CPUs. The Blade was also kind of pokey at 3-D rendering; we think the network cards that it came with were a bit underpowered. (We use a nice 3com 10/100 switch so normally, fast streaming data coming from the server flies down the pipe.)

Overall we came to the conclusion that the Blades were novel, but overpriced and underpowered, at least for our needs. But organizations who can afford to pay extra and get very little for it won't mind the Blades.


Re:My experience with a prerelease Blade (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2659996)

Stop making things up. If you used 2.4.15 you're stupid. The kernel would damage HD data and is consided unsafe.

3D-Rendering on a web server? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660048)

This has got to be a troll.

disks not suitable for heavy duty applications (5, Insightful)

chris.dag (22141) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659927)

The biggest problem I have with these systems (and the ones from RLX) is that they put cheezy laptop hard disks on the blades. The not-so-fast 4300 RPM drives or whatever they are using now are simply not fast enough for I/O intensive tasks.

I'll stick to standard high density rackmounts for my cluster projects that need better local disk IO.

my $.02 of course

Re:disks not suitable for heavy duty applications (3, Interesting)

NerdSlayer (300907) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659955)

The biggest problem I have with these systems (and the ones from RLX) is that they put cheezy laptop hard disks on the blades. The not-so-fast 4300 RPM drives or whatever they are using now are simply not fast enough for I/O intensive tasks

One of my good friends works as a chip designer for Dell. We were talking over beers last weekend about how Dell is coming out with the same thing soon, only with the option of having either the cheezy laptop drives OR a normal sized SCSI drive. You'll be able to choose between density or speed.

Re:disks not suitable for heavy duty applications (2)

Skapare (16644) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660541)

Why not include decent high end 7200 RPM IDE disks in that choice lineup so you have:

  • cheesy 5400 RPM IDE piece of crap
  • decent 7200 RPM IDE drive or faster
  • top of the line wallet draining SCSI drive
Now there. That is what I call a slightly better choice.

Re:disks not suitable for heavy duty applications (2)

ebh (116526) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659969)

The one pictured on the HP site looks like a real snoozer [] , especialy with the 12ms access time.

Re:disks not suitable for heavy duty applications (1)

linzeal (197905) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660010)

Why not just skip placing the frigging IDE or SCSI hardrive in case? Get a FDDI daughter unit so you don't have to sacrifice density plus less heat.

Re:disks not suitable for heavy duty applications (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660153)

I imagine they did it that way to "ease the barrier to entry" by keeping the up front cost more managable. I agree that it would make far more sense to have a fat array of disks in the rack that are available to all of the blades. The notebook drive idea (while cute) will prove to be a major achilles heel.


Anonymous Coward

Re:disks not suitable for heavy duty applications (2, Informative)

farmgeek (318817) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660474)

Well the omnicluster units can use either standard ide drives (or a lptoip drive with adapter), or they can use the drives in whatever sytem you plug them into. We had one of their reps by last week, and expect some test blades soon.

THe omniclusters can also use the pci bus as a high speed network between blades on the same bus.

Slick idea all around, and could be useful in some applications (we're going to test them as citrix servers).

Re:disks not suitable for heavy duty applications (1)

putzin (99318) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660894)

The main reasons for cheap drives are

  1. Most blade applications don't require or even use harddrives. They are a point of failure and add cost ($100 for every hard drive + $100 for every SCSI addition to the board x 100's of boards in most installs) to any project. When you spend millions, dropping $100,000 is significant. If you want I/O, go with something else.
  2. Most projects that use blades are also realtime applications in telco or internet. You can't really have a realtime OS that spends a lot of time reading/writing from a slow HD. Therefore, these are just there for startup and so forth when I/O isn't all the exciting.

That said, there are SCSI PMC modules that can be added, and there are some Force and Mot chassis that support SCSI natively, but not for each blade.

Blades are cool (1, Insightful)

LazyDawg (519783) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659934)

What we need are PCs that come with a single, directing processor on the mainboard and a bunch of PCI slots for daughtercard machines, running an OS geared towards clustering and paralell processing. They'd be able to get a lot more oomph than the current-generation single processor machines, and a non-von-neumann architecture, with multiple processing points might finally get people out of the WIMP interface paradigm.

These Linux-running blade machines seem to be a good first step on this evolutionary path.

Re:Blades are cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660424)

a non-von-neumann architecture, with multiple processing points might finally get people out of the WIMP interface paradigm.

Man. What the fuck are you smoking?

What on earth does a "non-von-Neumann archictecture" have to do with a user interface "paradigm"?


Re:Blades are cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660915)

What on earth does a "non-von-Neumann archictecture" have to do with a user interface "paradigm"?

Hah! Everything, idiot!

This will be the resurgence of the FLATS (flashing lights and toggle switches) user interface paradigm!

Hardcore or what?

Homosexual: Dead at Age 25 (-1)

CmderTaco (533794) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659939)

I just heard a report that a homosexual was found today dead in his home somewhere. Nobody really cared that he was found dead. Apparently, he has been there for weeks and no body noticed. One of his neighbors was quoted as saying:

"I thought there was a strange smell coming from his house, but I just figured it was one of those candles those homos like so much. I don't really care that he died, maybe that will keep his little dog quiet. Well, I am off to celebrate, now that there is one less faggot in the world."

I am sure that no one (except all of the Linux loving fags) at slashdot will miss him. As he has contributed nothing but the further spread of AIDS in society.

hp's web servers could us a few more of these... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2659949)

their site seems to be slashdotted!!

HP Blade? (2)

Darth RadaR (221648) | more than 12 years ago | (#2659973)

Doesn't Sun already have a blade [] ? Look out! Here come's the landsharks.

link to the high res photo (1)

Giant Killer (33130) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660017)

well, i didnt want to go through the whole silly 'save as' crap, so here is the link to the high res photo: er bc1100_pr_01675.jpg

Re:link to the high res photo (1)

Carl Drougge (222479) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660238)

Save as? Right-click, select "Copy image location", middle-click somewhere non-linked on the page. Not so damn hard. (At least in netscape-like browsers.)

Re:link to the high res photo (1)

dszd0g (127522) | more than 12 years ago | (#2661416)

Right click, and select "View Image."

It is not very hard with Netscape/Mozilla.

This thing is a joke (3, Interesting)

frost22 (115958) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660105)

This product looks like dead in the water.

They need ridiculous 13U to house 16 blade servers - that's like 1.2 Severs per U.

Have a look at the RLX beasts linked in the article. Those have 24 blades in a 3 U case - that's a whopping 8 Servers per U. Now, that's "ultra density".

The HP stuff ist just ... sortof... like... ahem... dense...


Re:This thing is a joke (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660568)

"The greater the number of laws, the corrupter the government. -Tacitus "

No, you are a joke!

Do you honestly think Tacitus would have said "corrupter"? Well, he would have said it in latin at least.

Re:This thing is a joke (1)

frost22 (115958) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660821)

Do you honestly think Tacitus would have said "corrupter"? Well, he would have said it in latin at least.

Certainly. He actually did (say it in latin).

If the English translation isn't up to your expectations, feel free to submit (and explain) a correction. Since I'm not an English native speaker, I happen to make mistakes every now and then.


Re:This thing is a joke (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660937)

He said (litteral translation from the Latin):

"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws"

Re:This thing is a joke (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660951)

The real question is not server density, but processing density. I'm not up on the benchmarks of the RLX trasmeta solution, but I can't see the per processor computing ability up to par with the 700Mhz PIII. Maybe it is, who knows. Point is, that if it takes 2RLX processors to make 1 equivalent of another type, it screws your rarions around a bit dosen't it?

HP Blades (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660112)

After careful consideration, I have deemed this story to be an insufficient challenge to my abilities. Therefore, there will be no official beowulf post made to this story, by me.

Instead, I will ask all of you creatures to be on your honor, and, on your own, to please imagine a beowulf cluster of these.

Management Blade (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660146)

I worked on the management blade. It's based around a StrongArm 110 and runs Linux 2.4. It has no hard disk and uses a RAM disk instead. Power on to prompt in 20 secs.

Rack space cheap! (4, Interesting)

Computer! (412422) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660178)

With the recent exodus (sorry) from hosting providers, is rack space all that valuable anymore? I mean, for people who aren't still stuck in contracts?

Another "blade" company not mentioned (1)

Arkham (10779) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660186)

I have a friend who works for a company here in Atlanta making "blade" systems. It's called Racemi [] (pronounced ray-see-me).

According to my friend, they have actual customers and a shipping product, which is more than most of the other blades on the market seem to have (although I would bet HP already has preorder customers). I wonder how a big company like HP will affect the market for smaller companies like Racemi and RLX.

The Racemi box is very open-source friendly in terms of software and the like. They do a lot of the scheduling code in python, which is one of my favorite languages.

How much do these things cost anyway (any of them)? Minaturization is always expensive. Just look at the (now dead) Apple Cube. Cool, but overpriced.

eval | testing egenera bladeframe - kicks butt (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660291)

this thing does 48 to 96 processors in same space as HP, seamless application failover, runs linux. Testing it for a financial company, and so far it rocks. (working as a consultant for the company but I have no loyalty anyway...)

Law suit waiting to happen (3, Interesting)

lelitsch (31136) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660294)

Good one. HP is naming a small scale server that will go directly against low end Sun Blade [] 100s and 1000s blade.

Nothing special about this (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660364)

There are a lot of other companies also making blades for compactPCI.

Motorola makes a whole line of them based on the G3 and G4 chips. Nortel uses them (running linux) for their compact VoIP solutions.

Why ... limited to just SYSV? (2)

Skapare (16644) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660469)

Why is it that the Linux choices vendors offer is always limited to just SYSV style distributions? If they really believe choice is good, why not offer a real choice and include some different kinds of systems with that?

Re:Why ... limited to just SYSV? (2)

ameoba (173803) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660993)

Well, if you want a more BSD-oriented Linux distro, Slackware Linux [] supposedly fits the bill. I can't make any real comparisons, but I've been running it without any problems for a number of years, and find working with it much simpler than configuring Redhat.

Re:Why ... limited to just SYSV? (2)

Skapare (16644) | more than 12 years ago | (#2661200)

I know about Slackware Linux [] . Want to help me in making vendors more aware of it? And I don't mean they have to go so far as to actually offer it and support it to their customers. They only need to do enough to let the system administrator be able to run the Linux distribution of choice, or even one of the free BSDs, and have a reasonable expectation of the hardware working correctly (e.g. not blame the software unless they have actual reasons to know the software is at fault).

Do you have some kind of a social flaw? (1)

NDPTAL85 (260093) | more than 12 years ago | (#2661062)

Why is it that some people just don't know how to say "Thank you"? They didn't have to offer a form of *NIX AT ALL and they give you 3 different distro's of Linux and the BEST you can come up with is that there are only SysV style distros?

When did they let _you_ out? (2)

Skapare (16644) | more than 12 years ago | (#2661232)

When one of these big corporations offers specific Linux distributions, they generally deny support ... even support for the hardware itself ... unless you run not just that distribution (or one of, if more than one offered), but also run only the copy they provide to you. When it is the case that the choices they make are not all that diverse (well, Debian is a bit different than Redhat or SuSE, but not in everything), then the customers are basically limited.

The best hardware vendor will be one that offers OS support for whatever OS they want to offer support for, but also offers _hardware_ support for plain hardware. And they also make sure that hardware is sufficiently standardized enough to work not only virtually every Linux distribution that uses a stock kernel, but also with the big three open source BSDs as well.

Ultimately, I don't want their distribution anyway. I can put my own on there. But I do know that when the vendors are offering an OS like this, they are declining support for the hardware when alternatives are used. That is the problem.

And the problem with this being? (1)

NDPTAL85 (260093) | more than 12 years ago | (#2661610)

Since when is this new? Even with Windows you can lose support if you use anything other than the OEM versions they give you.

Linux Users: Read This (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660534)

It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality', which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to pedophilia.

What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates:

Linus Torvalds is an anagram of SLIT ANUS OR VD 'L' , clearly referring to himself by the first initial.

Richard M Stallman, spokespervert for the Gaysex's Not Unusual 'movement' is an anagram of MANS CRAM THRILL AD.

Alan Cox is BARELY an anagram of ANAL COX which is just so filthy and unchristian it unnerves me.

I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic homosexual propaganda diatribe "The Cathedral and the Bizarre", [Buy At Amazon] is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum. Update: Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for SECONDARY RIM and CORD IN MY ARSE. It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.

Update the Second: It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called "Fetchmail", which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for "Felch Male" - a disgusting practise. For those not in the know, 'Felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum. In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male'.

As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was ACTUALLY QUOTED on leftist commie propaganda site as saying the following:

RMS: "I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance," he says. "It's about being able to question conventional wisdom," he asserts. "I believe in love, but not monogamy," he says plainly.

And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either! He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming homo slut!

Speaking about 'flaming', who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz. Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the homosexual perversion of Corrupting the Innocence of young children. To quote from the article linked:

"I've got a rare kidney disease," I told her. "I have to go to the bathroom a lot. You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while. Is that okay with you? Do you want a note from my doctor?"


We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag'. IS THERE ANY MORE DOUBT? For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of homosexual terminology found inside the Linux "Sauce Code", a "Gasbag" is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (or to use the common parlance, 'piss-pipe'), then his homosexual lover blows firmly down the straw to inflate his scrotum. This is, of course, when he's not busy violating the dignity and copyright of posters to Slashdot by gathering together their postings and publishing them en masse to further his twisted and manipulative journalistic agenda.

Sick, disgusting antichristian perverts, the lot of them.

In addition, many of the Linux distributions (a distribution is the most common way to spread the faggots' wares) are run by faggot groups. The Slackware distro is named after the 'Slack-wear' fags wear to allow easy access to the anus for sexual purposes. Furthermore, Slackware is a close anagram of CLAW ARSE, a reference to the homosexual practise of anal fisting. The Mandrake product is run by a group of French faggot satanists, and is named after the faggot nickname for the vibrator. It was also chosen because it is an anagram for DARK AMEN and RAM NAKED, which is what they do.

Another 'distro', (abbrieviated as such because it sounds a bit like 'Disco', which is where homosexuals preyed on young boys in the 1970's), is Debian, an anagram of IN A BED, which could be considered innocent enough (after all, a bed is both where we sleep and pray), until we realise what other names Debian uses to describe their foul wares. "Woody" is obvious enough, being a term for the erect male penis, glistening with precum. But far sicker is the phrase "Frozen Potato" that they use. This filthy term, again found in the secret homosexual "Sauce Code", refers to the solo homosexual practice of defecating into a clear polythene bag, shaping the turd into a crude approximation of the male phallus, then leaving it in the freezer overnight until it becomes solid. The practitioner then proceeds to push the frozen 'potato' up his own rectum, squeezing it in and out until his tight young balls erupt in a screaming orgasm.

And Red Hat is secret homo slang for the tip of a penis that is soaked in blood from a freshly violated underage ringpiece.

The fags have even invented special tools to aid their faggotry! For example, the 'supermount' tool was devised to allow deeper penetration, which is good for fags because it gives more pressure on the prostate gland. 'Automount' is used, on the other hand, because Linux users are all fat and gay, and need to mount each other automatically.

The depths of their depravity can be seen in their use of 'mount points'. These are, plainly speaking, the different points of penetration. The main one is obviously /anus, but there are others. Militant fags even say 'there is no /opt mount point' because for these dirty perverts faggotry is not optional but a way of life.

More evidence is in the fact that Linux users say how much they love `man`, even going so far as to say that all new Linux users (who are in fact just innocent heterosexuals indoctrinated by the gay propaganda) should try out `man`. In no other system do users boast of their frequent recourse to a man.

Other areas of the system also show Linux's inherit GAYNESS. For example, people are often told of the FAQ, but how many innocent heterosexual Windows users know what this actually means. The answer is shocking:

Faggot Anal Quest - the voyage of discovery for newly converted fags

Even the title 'Slashdot' originally referred to a homosexual practice. Slashdot of course refers to the popular gay practice of blood letting. The Slashbots, of course are those super-zealous homosexuals who take this perversion to its extreme by ripping open their anuses, as seen on the site most popular with Slashdot users, the depraved work of Satan,

The editors of Slashdot also have homosexual names: "Hemos" is obvious in itself, being one vowel away from "Homos". But even more sickening is "Commander Taco" which sounds a bit like "Commode in Taco", filthy gay slang for a pair of spreadeagled buttocks that are caked with excrement. (The best form of lubrication, they insist.) Sometimes, these "Taco Commodes" have special "Salsa Sauce" (blood from a ruptured rectum) and "Cheese" (rancid flakes of penis discharge) toppings. AND to make it even worse, Slashdot runs on Apache!

The Apache server, whose use among fags is as prevalent as AIDS, is named after homosexual activity - as everyone knows, popular faggot band, the Village People featured an Apache Indian, and it is for him that this gay program is named.

And that's not forgetting the use of patches in the Linux fag world - patches are used to make the anus accessible for repeated anal sex even after its rupture by a session of fisting.

To summarise: Linux is gay. "Slash - Dot" is the graphical description of the space between a young boy's scrotum and anus. And BeOS is for hermaphrodites and disabled 'stumpers'.


What worries me is how much you know about what gay people do. I'm scared I actually read this whole thing. I think this post is a good example of the negative effects of Internet usage on people. This person obviously has no social life anymore and had to result to writing something as stupid as this. And actually take the time to do it too. Although... I think it was satire.. blah.. it's early. - Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Well, the only reason I know all about this is because I had the misfortune to read the Linux 'Sauce code' once. Although publicised as the computer code needed to get Linux up and running on a computer (and haven't you always been worried about the phrase 'Monolithic Kernel'?), this foul document is actually a detailed and graphic description of every conceivable degrading perversion known to the human race, as well as a few of the major animal species. It has shocked and disturbed me, to the point of needing to shock and disturb the common man to WARN them of the impending homo-calypse which threatens to engulf our planet.

You must work for the government. Trying to post the most obscene stuff in hopes that slashdot won't be able to continue or something, due to legal woes. If i ever see your ugly face, i'm going to stick my fireplace poker up your ass, after it's nice and hot, to weld shut that nasty gaping hole of yours. - Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Doesn't it give you a hard on to imagine your thick strong poker ramming it's way up my most sacred of sphincters? You're beyond help, my friend, as the only thing you can imagine is the foul penetrative violation of another man. Are you sure you're not Eric Raymond? The government, being populated by limp-wristed liberals, could never stem the sickening tide of homosexual child molesting Linux advocacy. Hell, they've given NAMBLA free reign for years!

you really should post this logged in. i wish i could remember jebus's password, cuz i'd give it to you. - mighty jebus, Slashdot

Thank you for your kind words of support. However, this document shall only ever be posted anonymously. This is because the 'Open Source' movement is a sham, proposing homoerotic cults of hero worshipping in the name of freedom. I speak for the common man. For any man who prefers the warm, enveloping velvet folds of a woman's vagina to the tight puckered ringpiece of a child. These men, being common, decent folk, don't have a say in the political hypocrisy that is Slashdot culture. I am the unknown liberator.

ROLF LAMO i hate linux FAGGOTS - Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

We shouldn't hate them, we should pity them for the misguided fools they are... Fanatical Linux zeal-outs need to be herded into camps for re-education and subsequent rehabilitation into normal heterosexual society. This re-education shall be achieved by forcing them to watch repeats of 'Baywatch' until the very mention of Pamela Anderson causes them to fill their pants with healthy heterosexual jism.

Actually, that's not at all how scrotal inflation works. I understand it involves injecting sterile saline solution into the scrotum. I've never tried this, but you can read how to do it safely in case you're interested.

(Before you moderate this down, ask yourself honestly -- who are the real crazies -- people who do scrotal inflation, or people who pay $1000+ for a game console?)

- double_h, Slashdot

Well, it just goes to show that even the holy Linux 'sauce code' is riddled with bugs that need fixing. (The irony of Jon Katz not even being able to inflate his scrotum correctly has not been lost on me.) The Linux pervert elite already acknowledge this, with their queer slogan: "Given enough arms, all rectums are shallow.". And anyway, the PS2 sucks major cock and isn't worth the money. Intellivision forever!

dude did u used to post on msnbc's nt bulletin board
now that u are doing anti-gay posts u also need to start in with anti-black stuff too
c u in church - Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

For one thing, whilst Linux is a cavalcade of queer propaganda masquerading as the future of computing, NT is used by people who think nothing better of encasing their genitals in quick setting plaster then going to see a really dirty porno film, enjoying the restriction enforced onto them. Remember, a wasted arousal is a SIN in the eyes of the Catholic church. Clearly, the only god fearing Christian operating system in existence is CP/M - The Christian Program Monitor. All computer users should immediately ask their local pastor to install this fine OS onto their systems. It is the only route to salvation.

Secondly, this message is for EVERY man. Computers know no colour. Not only that, but one of the finest websites in the world is maintained by A Black Man. Now fuck off you racist donkey felcher.

And don't forget that slashdot was written in Perl, which is just too close to "Pearl Necklace" for comfort.... oh wait; that's something all you heterosexuals do.... I can't help but wonder how much faster the trolls could do First-Posts on this site if it were redone in PHP... I could hand-type dynamic HTML pages faster than Perl can do them. - phee, Slashdot

Although there is nothing unholy about the fine heterosexual act of ejaculating between a woman's breasts, squirting one's load up towards her neck and chin area, it should be noted that PERL (standing for Pansies Entering Rectums Locally) is also close to "Pearl Monocle", "Pearl Nosering", and the ubiquitous "Pearl Enema".

One scary thing about Perl is that it contains hidden homosexual messages. Take the following code: LWP::Simple - It looks innocuous enough, doesn't it? But look at the line closely. There are TWO COLONS NEXT TO EACH OTHER! As Larry "Balls to the" Wall would openly admit in the Perl Documentation, Perl was designed from the ground up to indoctrinate it's programmers into performing unnatural sexual acts - having two colons so closely together is clearly a reference to the perverse sickening act of 'colon kissing', whereby two homosexual queers spread their buttocks wide, pressing their filthy torn sphincters together. They then share small round objects like marbles or golfballs by passing them from one rectum to another using muscle contraction alone. This is also referred to in programming 'circles' as "Parameter Passing".

And PHP stands for Perverted Homosexual Penetration. Didn't you know?

Thank you for your valuable input on this. I am sure you will be never forgotten. BTW: Did I mention that this could be useful in terraforming Mars? Mars rulaa. - Eimernase, Slashdot

Well, I don't know about terraforming Mars, but I DO know that homosexual Linux Advocates have been probing Uranus for years.

That's inspiring. Keep up the good work, AC. May God in his wisdom grant you the strength to bring the plain honest truth to this community, and make it pure again.Yours, Cerberus. - Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

*sniff* That brings a tear to my eye. Thank you once more for your kind support. I have taken faith in the knowledge that I am doing the Good Lord's work, but it is encouraging to know that I am helping out the common man here.

However, I should be cautious about revealing your name 'Cerberus' on such a filthy den of depravity as Slashdot. It is a well known fact that the 'Kerberos' documentation from Microsoft is a detailed manual describing, in intimate, exacting detail, how to sexually penetrate a variety of unwilling canine animals; be they domesticated, wild, or mythical. Slashdot posters have taken great pleasure in illegally spreading this documentation far and wide, treating it as an 'extension' to the Linux 'Sauce Code', for the sake of 'interoperability'. (The slang term they use for unconsensual intercourse - their favourite kind.)

In fact, sick twisted Linux deviants are known to have LAN parties, (Love of Anal Naughtiness, needless to say.), wherein they entice a stray dog, known as the 'Samba Mount', into their homes. Up to four of these filth-sodden blasphemers against nature take turns to plunge their erect, throbbing, uncircumcised members, conkers-deep, into the rectum, mouth, and other fleshy orifices of the poor animal. Eventually, the 'Samba Mount' collapses due to 'overload', and needs to be 'rebooted'. (i.e. Kicked out into the street, and left to fend for itself.) Many Linux users boast about their 'uptime' in such situations.

Inspiring stuff! If only all trolls were this quality! - Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

If only indeed. You can help our brave cause by voting this message up as often as possible. I recommend '+1 Underrated', as that will protect your precious Karma in Metamoderation. Only then can we break through the glass ceiling of Homosexual Slashdot Culture. Is it any wonder that the new version of Slashcode has been christened "Bender"???

If we can get just one of these postings up to at least '+1', then it will be archived FOREVER! Others will learn of our struggle, and join with us in our battle for freedom!

It's pathetic you've spent so much time writing this. - Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I am compelled to document the foulness and carnal depravity that is Linux, in order that we may prepare ourselves for the great holy war that is to follow. It is my solemn duty to peel back the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wire brush of enlightenment.

As with any great open-source project, you need someone asking this question, so I'll do it. When the hell is version 2.0 going to be ready?!?! - Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I could make an arrogant, childish comment along the lines of "Every time someone asks for 2.0, I won't release it for another 24 hours", but the truth of the matter is that I'm quite nervous of releasing a 'number two', as I can guarantee some filthy shit-slurping Linux pervert would want to suck it straight out of my anus before I've even had chance to wipe.

I desperately want to suck your monolithic kernel, you sexy hunk, you. - Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I sincerely hope you're Natalie Portman.

Dude, nothing on slashdot larger than 3 paragraphs is worth reading. Try to distill the message, whatever it was, and maybe I'll read it. As it is, I have to much open source software to write to waste even 10 seconds of precious time. 10 seconds is all its gonna take M$ to whoop Linux's ass. Vigilence is the price of Free (as in libre - from the fine, frou frou French language) Software. Hack on fellow geeks, and remember: Friday is Bouillabaisse day except for heathens who do not believe that Jesus died for their sins. Those godless, oil drench, bearded sexist clowns can pull grits from their pantaloons (another fine, fine French word) and eat that. Anyway, try to keep your message focused and concise. For concision is the soul of derision. Way. - Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

What the FUCK?

I've read your gay conspiracy post version 1.3.0 and I must say I'm impressed. In particular, I appreciate how you have managed to squeeze in a healthy dose of the latent homosexuality you gay-bashing homos tend to be full of. Thank you again. - Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Well bugger me!

ooooh honey. how insecure are you!!! wann a little massage from deare bruci. love you - Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Fuck RIGHT off!

IMPORTANT: This message needs to be heard (Not HURD, which is an acronym for 'Huge Unclean Rectal Dilator') across the whole community, so it has been released into the Public Domain. You know, that licence that we all had before those homoerotic crypto-fascists came out with the GPL (Gay Penetration License, according to that is no more than an excuse to see who's got the biggest faece-encrusted cock. I would have put this up on Freshmeat, but that name is KNOWN to be a euphemism for the tight rump of a young boy.

Come to think of it, the whole concept of 'Source Control' unnerves me, because it sounds a bit like 'Sauce Control', which is a description of the homosexual practice of holding the base of the cock shaft tightly upon the point of ejaculation, thus causing a build up of semenal fluid that is only released upon entry into an incision made into the base of the receiver's scrotum. And 'Open Sauce' is the act of ejaculating into another mans face or perhaps a biscuit to be shared later. Obviously, 'Closed Sauce' is the only Christian thing to do, as evidenced by the fact that it is what Cathedrals are all about.

Intel has blades too (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660806)

Why all the fuss about HP?

CompactPCI Blades running Linux are old news. Intel has been selling them for over a year now and they rock. They even have a dual proc version on the market. Check out

RLX vs. HP (1)

DFossmeister (186254) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660833)

I've evaluated the RLX chassis-based systems before, and compared to these, I think that RLX has them beat hands-down. RLX offers 3 NICs per board, less power requirements and probably equal speed.

I'm also sure that RLX costs less, unless you buy the IBM relabeled ones.

So what it comes down to is a nice first try for HP, but I'll stick with RLX until Compaq makes their entry--then I'll re-evaluate again.

All they need now: (2)

swordboy (472941) | more than 12 years ago | (#2660923)

It would be *really* cool if they'd make a laptop that would accept blades. Then you could pull a server out of the chassis and take it on the road with ya...

i want a job but can't get one, why? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2660952)

Ok... I'm a straight A student in my last year of university, heading for a first class honours (UK), I've had 1.5 years NT development experience (various techs) including project leadership, sale of my work to Big 5 accountancy firms, training and on-site consultancy work home and abroad, and about 2 years part time administration/Perl/web experience on Unix boxen through a company I set up with a friend.

I've submitted my CV to dozens of places over the past couple of weeks, for specific jobs and for agents to do searching, and not one response or interview.. I've sold myself at almost half price, going rate, everything..

What the HELL is going on with the market?
Do I have a sign on my head that says "NOT A BILLSHEEP -- DO NOT EMPLOY"? Or have companies just given up hiring people before they graduate?

-- From a 21-year-old who has been programming since he was 8, and is about to stop programming forever.

"Blade" hype (4, Informative)

Animats (122034) | more than 12 years ago | (#2661100)

Single-board computers in 6U Eurocard form factors have been around for years. The new ones have turn handles, like an AT&T 5ESS switch, rather than thumbscrews, for mounting. And Compact PCI single board computers have been around for a while, too. They've been sold in small volumes for industrial automation, and overpriced for that reason, but they're not new.

Eurocard is good packaging. Industrial control, telephone COs, traffic light controllers, and Sun servers have been built that way since the 1980s.

A note on nomenclature: Eurocard is a physical packaging standard dating from 1981. Eurocards come in 3U, 6U, and 9U heights. Compact PCI generally uses 3U, VMEbus uses 3U and 6U, and Sun servers used 9U. "VMEbus" is sometimes confused with Eurocard, but there's lots of stuff in Eurocard packaging that's not VMEbus compatible. These "blade" machines are 6U Eurocard, but the signals at the back connectors are, as I understand it, network interfaces and such, not a bus.

wonder what Sun will say... (1)

spir0 (319821) | more than 12 years ago | (#2661127)

and I wonder if Sun will sue.. they have a series of workstations called Blades.

different class and slightly different market, but how does the name in another computer device affect trademarks and or copyright??

Mein got! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2661215)

This is the extent we have to go to to get legacy free x86 machines? No serial, no parallel, no floppy.... encase that sucker in lucite and call it an iBlade!

I like... (2)

coolgeek (140561) | more than 12 years ago | (#2661395)

I like the "Network Switch Blade" the best.

Codemorphing for PA-RISC ? (1)

tempmpi (233132) | more than 12 years ago | (#2661657)

A datasheet on hp site mentions that the blade servers support PA-RISC software, has Transmeta done a PA-RISC code morphing software or is there just another blade server modul that has a PA-RISC cpu instead of a crusoe ?
If there is a PA-RISC emulation then it should be easy to add other architectures. A crusoe based computer that could run x86, powerpc and pa-risc software would be very nice. Being able to run MacOSX on my PC from time to time would be really nice.
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