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Miguel de Icaza Interview on MSDN

chrisd posted more than 12 years ago | from the what's-a-nice-coder-like-you-doing-in-a-place-like-this dept.

Ximian 162

twigman writes "MSDN has an interview with Ximian CTO Miguel de Icaza about Mono and past Ximian projects. It's a surprisingly objective discussion, definitely worth a read." Of course we're not surprised Miguel is objective...

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woo hoo! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2697932)

yipee-yi-yay, muthafscka! trolls in effect

Ximian on MSDN ??? (2, Funny)

Tensor (102132) | more than 12 years ago | (#2697933)

Dammmm ... what is this world coming to ...

next Windows .NET release is announced on redhat.com

Lol

Re:Ximian on MSDN ??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698265)

Hey, is it just me or is the ximian website down? I've been trying to get on it for the past 12 hours with no luck...

this is the postest (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2697934)

with the fucking MOSTEST.

first post for freaking jon katz [slashdot.org]

Gnome (-1)

I.T.R.A.R.K. (533627) | more than 12 years ago | (#2697935)

sucks

Hey Rob! You need to bug test your fucking code. It's been 18 seconds for the past minute and a half!

Re:Gnome (-1)

The WIPO Troll (267426) | more than 12 years ago | (#2697942)

I insist you remove your penis from my young daughter's anus, sir. She's only eight years old, and her ass is much too small at this tender young age. I insist you use her mouth like I do.

Re:Gnome (-1)

I.T.R.A.R.K. (533627) | more than 12 years ago | (#2697963)

Hey, someone has to break her in.
You'll thank me in the morning.

Re:Gnome (-1)

The WIPO Troll (267426) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698060)

I would very much prefer you wait until she is at least twelve, sir. I prefer not to have a "goatse.cx" daughter if you understand my meaning. Please, use the mouth to fellate your penis, and ejaculate on her face. After all, that's what it is there for.

Thank you for your understanding. I and my rather sticky daughter look forward to doing further business with you in the future.

Sincerely,
J. Wipo Troll, Esq.
Professional Crapflooder
Slashdot.org

Re:Gnome (-1)

I.T.R.A.R.K. (533627) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698168)

Too late. I've already broken her.
Now, excuse me while I go and wash the blood out of my clown suit.

Re:Gnome (-1)

The WIPO Troll (267426) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698195)

Yes, you seem to have broken her quite nicely, sir, and she is indeed quite bloodied by your phallic rammage. I believe she enjoyed it; and, oddly, I find her much sexier with a gaping "goatse.cx" anus. I believe I shall now take advantage of this situation and give her a good WIPO-rutting tonight. Thank you, sir, for loosening my daughter bowels!

I'm WIPO. I troll things! :) (-1)

The WIPO Troll (267426) | more than 12 years ago | (#2697936)

By The WIPO Troll [slashdot.org] , $Revision: 1.12 $

Why have I been receiving emails from CmdrTaco, in which he seems to be speaking in some kind of code language?

Whenever
Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda [cmdrtaco.net] gets bored (and who wouldn't, running a site like Slashdot all day), he roams through the Slashdot database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy engaging in homosexual orgies with him. How he determines this is anyone's guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, or a nick with the letter P in it, you're in trouble.
So this time, he found you. Lucky you.
CmdrTaco's code language is relatively easy to decipher. He prefers to speak in thinly-veiled sexual innuendo to evade the watchful (but relatively stupid) eye of Slashdot's parent corporation,
VA Software [yahoo.com] . CmdrTaco's "Commander" is, of course, his penis -- a small, withered little thing that lives in his pants that only comes out in the presence of other men or at the beck and call of CmdrTaco's own right hand. His "Taco bells" are the shriveled testes that droop beneath his Commander, and his "Taco sauce" is his, well, jizz. It should be more than obvious to you now what he means when he asks you to "ring his Taco bells" or "taste his gourmet Taco sauce."
Lastly, there is a practice he refers to as "Taco-snotting" and the more shocking "circle-snot."

Good Lord. What is "Taco-snotting?"

"Taco-snotting" is the term used by CmdrTaco to refer to the practice of sucking the penis of a homosexual man (or unwilling heterosexual; CmdrTaco is rumored to prefer rape), then blowing the semen out his nose onto his partner's (victim's) face and body. A long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is
left on CmdrTaco's face [yahoo.com] , dribbling out of his nose and down his cheek: hence the term, "Taco-snotting."
A "circle-snot" is a Taco-snotting
circle-jerk, another practice common among the Slashdot crew. CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel [yahoo.com] , and Homos get together and Taco-snot each other with their gooey, sticky cum -- spooging their jizz-snot all over each other's faces and pasty, white bodies, until they're covered head to toe with each other's man juice. This can go on for hours. For the homosexual penetration that follows this lengthy foreplay, Roblowme is usually there to provide plenty of anal lubricant; he owns a limo service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease ready to go.
To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie will usually join in, dressed in tight leather mock-S.S. uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The whole group then proceeds to snot each other's spunk and whip each other's pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pale, white geek bodies are exhausted and soaked in stinking sweat from the hours of passionate, homosexual revelry.

Ewwwwww. So, can I stop receiving these emails?

Hopefully.
You most likely forgot to uncheck the "Willing to Taco-snot" checkbox in your account preferences. CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad, and he's probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube. There's no escaping a geek in heat, so it's probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTaco's sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on
Messages, and uncheck the box next to "Willing to Taco-snot." Maybe he'll ignore you. Probably not.

I can't stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?

If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, he
might leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge... oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot you, you will most likely end up tied up in his basement to be used as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a circle-snot).

Have you ever been Taco-Snotted?

Unfortunately, yes. I first met CmdrTaco at an
Open Source Convention [yahoo.com] . He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake and some "gourmet Tacos," but when I got there, he jumped me and tied me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his "Commander" out of his pants, Mr. Taco made me suck the withered thing six times. He then performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm after sweaty, mind-numbing orgasm... then he snotted my own milky-white jizz back onto my face, into my mouth, then again on my exposed belly.
CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, "Open Sauce" -- man sauce) buddies over to continue the twisted snotfest. Linux Torvalds
raped my ass [yahoo.com] with his "monolithic kernel [yahoo.com] ," and Anal Cox used his "network stack" in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice in my defenseless body. Michael was there in his leather Nazi uniform, caning my ass with a bamboo pole and ranting about "all those Censorware freaks out to get him."
How did you finally escape, you ask? After about 16 hours of countless homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my restrained body, they all finally went to sleep on top of me, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, covered in bubbly, translucent jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with half a dozen fat, pasty-white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my flesh worked wonderfully as a lubricant; I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door. I'm just glad I survived the ordeal. These geeks had a lot of built-up spunk in their wads -- I could've easily been drowned!

That's horrible. Does "Taco-snotting" have anything to do with CmdrTaco's "special taco"?

No, that's a different disgusting perversion CmdrTaco indulges himself in. CmdrTaco is usually not satisfied with merely snotting your own jizz back onto your face, he most often enjoys involving his own bodily fluids in his twisted games.
WeatherTroll [slashdot.org] has spent some time trying to educate the Slashdot readership about this vile practice (emphasis added):
You may be wondering what CmdrTaco's "special taco" is. You will be wishing that you hadn't been wondering after you finish reading this post. To make his "special taco", CmdrTaco takes a taco shell and
shits on it. He then adds lettuce, jacks off on the taco, and adds a compound to make the person who eats the taco unconscious. Of course, the compound does not make the person unconscious until the taco is fully eaten. Thus CmdrTaco force-feeds the taco to the unsuspecting victim.
After the victim is unconscious, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTaco's nefarious sexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victim's ass, Taco-snotting, and getting Jon Katz involved.
Completely different, yet no less revolting. It should be clear to you now that CmdrTaco is a very, very sick individual, as are most of the Slashdot editors.

Does Jon Katz get involved in any of this? I thought he was a paedophile, not a homosexual.

Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual paedophile. He's also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zoophile. Jon Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesn't involve himself in circle-snots. Mr. Katz usually engages in a game called "
Katz juicy-douching [yahoo.com] " with his harem of little-boy slaves: a vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boy's urine (forced out of them with a pair of pliers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then squirting and slathering the goo all over himself, and the little boy's chained-up and naked bodies. If he's in the mood, he will sometimes skip refilling the enema bag and just squirt it from his ass [yahoo.com] onto his boys. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pliers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them for the rest of their lives.
As I already said, Mr. Katz is
also a zoophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys aren't enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goat's anus [yahoo.com] . He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goat's small, bean-like turds.

...Are you getting hard writing this?

Why, yes. :) Join me in a WIPO-snot?

No, thanks. I'm already CmdrTaco's boi toi.

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READER COMMENTS

  1. Fucking hilarious too bad it didnt get a 5:Funny (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.02 19:01 (#2644105 [slashdot.org] )

    this is good shit man

  2. Re:Taco-snotting@Home! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Dark_Cobra87 [slashdot.org] on 2001.12.01 23:03 (#2642180 [slashdot.org] )

    Oops, forgot to check that Taco-snot option...

  3. Re:Fuck Linux! Fuck him hard! (Score:-1)
    by Fecal Troll Matter [slashdot.org] on 2001.12.01 20:55 (#2641791 [slashdot.org] )

    Mmmmmmm, Taco Sauce... [galeon.com]

    Sig (appended to the end of comments you post, 120 chars)

  4. Look (Score:-1)
    by ArchieBunker [slashdot.org] on 2001.12.01 20:19 (#2641679 [slashdot.org] )

    I love trolling but this shit is getting old, fast. At least start mixing them up a little bit. How about the 'How OSM was Freed' series?
    http://www.naawp.org/

  5. Re:Congratulations! You have been WIPO'd!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.01 8:37 (#2640602 [slashdot.org] )

    Stop posting this! I've got hangover and Taco Snotting doesn't make me feel any better.

    I'm really glad that Taco Snotting is illegal here in Europe.

  6. Re:Snot me baby, one more time! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.30 1:01 (#2634213 [slashdot.org] )

    Get a life you loser! Don't you have anything better to do than insult CmdrTaco and the gay community? We are not perverts, we are human beings just like you. So give it a rest!

  7. Re:Hello, perdida!!! Won't you snot my face tonigh (Score:-1)
    by perdida on [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.27 14:13 (#2618764 [slashdot.org] )

    Shut up you asshole.

    I am not great, I am merely adequate. I live in adequacy.

  8. Go back to Russia. (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.26 22:22 (#2616035 [slashdot.org] )

    You weiner trool!

  9. Re:The Taco-Snotting FAQ Rides Again!! (Updated so (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.25 9:14 (#2609574 [slashdot.org] )

    try to find a pic of actual "taco-snotting"! fucking funny it would be! so go to gay porn sites day in and day out until you find a man giving another man a blowjob that has jizz coming out of his nose and mouth. by the way, keep up the good work

  10. Re:Snotting another first!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.23 12:18 (#2603370 [slashdot.org] )

    WIPO, this is getting waaaay old, either drop it or revise it.... there've been no updates for days now...

    CmdrTaco

  11. Re:It's Taco SPAM!!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.22 17:28 (#2600815 [slashdot.org] )

    A truly excellent and very humourous troll indeed!
    However...

    To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie often join in, dressed in black Gestapo uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves.

    Black GeStaPo uniforms? The GeStaPo (Geheime Staatspolizei - Secret State Police) wore civilian clothes (although there are reports on them occasionally using Allgemeine SS uniforms in occupied territories).

    I seriously doubt that perverted individuals like CmdrTaco et al would have the good taste to ever wear the outstandingly beautiful black Waffen SS uniforms! Please update the FAQ accordingly.

    • Re:It's Taco SPAM!!! (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.23 4:06 (#2602610 [slashdot.org] )

      Actually, it appears you are both wrong!! Ah ha!! I think our boy WIPO was thinking of the Allgemeine SS [militariacollection.com] uniforms. Waffen SS were grey.

  12. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:49 (#2594325 [slashdot.org] )

    oh yeah, you say you have masturbated only 2 times to this post. well, by the time it takes for me to get through reading it, i usually end up masturbated 5 to 6 times, 10 to 12 if i have the goatse.cx homepage loaded up and am looking at it side by side with the slashdot page. my keyboard, hands, mouse, monitor, the underside of my desk and around the floor under my desk are cum soaked and sticky with the man smell i know and love.

  13. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:41 (#2594311 [slashdot.org] )

    for version 2 you should make a total re-write of the cod...errr...text and add some details about cmdrtaco and the homo-gang's happenings with their coworkers (osdn?) and all of the gay revelry they enjoy and promote. by the way, did i just see cmdrtaco on television promoting the nax hair removal system? i guess after using vaseline in and around his ass he grew quite a ponytail and it had to be removed somehow...ouch!

  14. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
    by TRoLLaXoR [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.21 3:59 (#2594191 [slashdot.org] )

    WIPO, do you notice how few comments you get for anything you write/post/spam nowadays?

    -Trollaxor

  15. Jon-Katz docking (Score:-1)
    by sales_worldwide [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.20 11:53 (#2588488 [slashdot.org] )

    You forgot to mention Jon Katz's "docking" games, where he places his chopper head to head with another chap, and rolls the other guys foreskin over his own circumcised end ("docking"), providing him with fantasies of actually having his own forskin ...
    "Making linux GPL was the best thing I ever did" - Torvalds. I'd hate to see the worst thing...

  16. Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1)
    by Fucky the troll [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.20 11:28 (#2588446 [slashdot.org] )

    Woah! When did the WIPO troll get freed? And how the fuck did I miss it?

    Excellent FP, sir.

    This is a sig virus. Please put me in your sig

  17. Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.20 11:04 (#2588407 [slashdot.org] )

    omg that is crapflooding material if i ever saw it!!!!!! and u got a first post!!!! whoot to the wipo troll!!!

  18. GW, please.... (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 9:03 (#2583756 [slashdot.org] )

    GW...you know we love every hair on your 27 acre ass... and I, for one, would never do anything untowards your graceful demeanor. And you probably have several friends that would love to help you do the bear dance all over my face if I so much as spelled your name wrong. And you know I'd defend your Constitutional right to defame God in heaven. I'd even help fund your education, should you ever decide to take that route. Hell, I'd buy you a tall tepid bear-whiz beer if you were here with me, right now!

    But. ...if you can't find another topic, I'm gonna step over your dead mother's grave and kick your assuredly anesthetitized butt clear across the playground.

    Now go stick your shaved head back down inside the woman's toilet, and just to show there's no hard feelings, I'll jump in the tow-truck and drive right over to help you pull it right out...ok?

    thanks

  19. Re:Help me Taco-Snotters!! (Score:-1)
    by mark knopfler 69 [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.19 8:25 (#2583695 [slashdot.org] )

    I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU SIR. FOR ONE THING, THE E-MAIL FROM CMDRTACO DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH GRAMMATICAL AND SPELLING MISTAKES. Let's be realistic here, CmdrTaco usually types with one hand, and since he is shaking from jacking off his aim on the keyboard isn't too good. Those e-mails were a little too well written. Sorry boy, you'll have to do better.

  20. Re: What the hell is "taco snotting"? (Score:-1)
    by WeatherTroll [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.19 8:14 (#2583667 [slashdot.org] )

    You should update this to say VA Software instead of VA Linux.

  21. YOU ARE WINNER (Score:1)
    by smackmonkey [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.19 7:06 (#2583510 [slashdot.org] )

    Crackhead moderators: this is +5, Hilarious material.

    --
    CNN declares War on Islam!
    Left-wing America declares War on its Civil Liberties!

  22. Re:On Taco-Snotting 1.9 (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 5:40 (#2583336) [slashdot.org]

    This was funny the first 100 times. Now it is getting boring!

  23. Digusting and Shameful (Score:-1)
    by egg troll [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.18 22:27 (#2582054 [slashdot.org] )

    Having masturbated *twice* to this post, I'm still incredibly aroused! Come over for a Taco Snot. I'll be wearing my crotchless Clifford the Big Red Dog outfit!!

    For more info check out this /. article [google.com]

  24. IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:-1, Flamebait)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:03 (#2580822 [slashdot.org] )

    add more links to goatse and to cowboineal's site to make it better. a link to rotten.com would be nice too

    • Re:IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:18 (#2580832 [slashdot.org] )

      and a link to michael's site and to jon katz's site if he has one and homo's site. i dont know what else to say. maybe a few links to phallic.org they have nice penis pictures! a link to the planet quake site or whatever. really make the reader feel this faq really answers their questions. oh yeah, and when you talk about cmdrtaco snotting you, say he brought you to "orgasm after sweaty orgasm". describe it more is all i'm saying. and use more italics and bolding! and when you talk about jon katz shitting or whatever have a link to fecal japan on rotten.com

      other wise a great job wipo troll! keep up the good work!

  25. Re:CmdrTaco's filthy secret! (Score:-1)
    by Wil Wheaton [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.18 6:41 (#2580438 [slashdot.org] )

    Hi. Let's be buddies.. butt buddies.
    --
    WIL WHEATON DOT NET [wilwheaton.net]

  26. WIPO speaks the truth (Score:-1)
    by dead_puppy [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.18 5:33 (#2580342 [slashdot.org] )

    Here is an e-mail I received a week ago:

    From: malda@slashdot.org
    To: puppy_dead@hotmail.com
    Subject: were where you last friday? :(

    I thought we where supposed to meet at Backdoor's at 8-ish, sugar-lips? You could've at least told me that you could'nt make it! I was even in my favorite pink skirt for you, honey-cup... next time, you could be more considarite and tell me you cant come... bastard.

    --
    CmdrTaco (malda@slashdot.org)

    You finding Ling-Ling's [babysue.com] head?

  27. Taco snotting is WRONG!!! (Score:-1)
    by Big_Ass_Spork [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.18 4:53 (#2580300 [slashdot.org] )

    I do it wrong

    Laying here in the shadows of my room, I squint up at my love. My Ms. Portman. I am sore and tired after fucking her for eight solid hours. My chapped and aching dick is soaking in grits to relieve the pain. She gets on her knees and starts lapping the grits up out of the bowl. She places her beautiful hands on my penis and starts to lick the grits off my achy piece.

    Massaging my nutsack she....

    WAIT, I DO IT WRONG!!!!

    Yanking my dick out of her mouth I throw her to the ground and shove it in to her gaping freshly fisted ass. [goatse.cx]

    "OH BIG ASS SPORK!! Fuck my ass, fuck my ass good. DEEPER, my stallion, deeper!! Make a Beowulf cluster of sperm on my back!!"

    "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of this baby!"

    I DO IT WRONG!!!!

    ---
    All your Sporks are belong to Big_Ass_Spork! What you say?! All your Sporks are belo... forget it...

  28. Rob Malda Dead at age 25! (Score:-1)
    by j0nkatz [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.17 22:54 (#2579596 [slashdot.org] )

    I just heard some sad news on the radio -- famous queerbait Rob Malda was found dead in his Holland home this morning. The details were a bit hazy, but it seems that he drowned in jizz while Taco Snotting his friend Hemos. I'm sure everyone in the /. community will miss him -- even if you didn't enjoy his queer antics and boring ass website, there's no denying his contributions to the homosesual cultural development, particularly in the areas of Taco snotting. Truly an American icon.

    I wanna Open Source sex so it won't be worth a shit either.

  29. TACO-SNOTTING is really Donkey-Punching (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.15 6:38 (#2567601 [slashdot.org] )

    No no no, the correct term for that is "donkey-punch". I have eye-witnessed this amazing eye-popping event demonstrated on unsuspecting hose-monsters by my frat brothers in the past.. . :-)

  30. Re:the effect of knowlege laws... (Score:1)
    by AbsoluteRelativity [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.15 5:31 (#2567457 [slashdot.org] )

    The WIPO Troll [foundus.com]
    Slashdot and the Karma Lottery - News for uber monkeys, by uber monkeys.

  31. Re:Taco-Snotting (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:27 (#2557632 [slashdot.org] )

    Oh, man that's just sick !

  32. HOW DO I GET AN ANONYMOUS PROXY? (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:03 (#2557604 [slashdot.org] )

    TELL ME WHERE I CAN GET AN ANONYMOUS proxy please WIPO Troll. Maybe later i will join you in a snotting at my place. ;P

  33. Re:Taco-Snottage!?!?!? (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by vikool [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.13 7:43 (#2557495 [slashdot.org] )

    what is this bull shit,i feel offened that some people feel so so senseless to post stuff like these esp when such a tragic incident has occured

  34. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1)
    by I.T.R.A.R.K. [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.11 22:38 (#2551890 [slashdot.org] )

    Where the fuck do I sign up?!

    - I throw rocks at retarded kids

    "Adequacy.org: Where congenital stupidity is not an option, but a requirement."

  35. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 21:53 (#2551753 [slashdot.org] )

    this shit is hilarious..keep up the good work.

  36. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by rockwood [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.11 21:49 (#2551746 [slashdot.org] )

    OMG! That is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard! WHo in their right mind would sit down and waste the time to construct such a replusive story. I guess I'll be skipping lunch and dinner today.. and possibly tomorrow also. The game doesn't affect reality. Reality affects the game.

  37. Re:Ban this! It's disgusting!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 14:43 (#2550701 [slashdot.org] )

    dude, this is crap-flood material if i ever saw it.
    duuuuuuuuudddddddddddddeeeeeeeee.

  38. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Flamebait)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 8:16 (#2550266 [slashdot.org] )

    horny_rob_6969@hotmail.com

    Ah, so that's what the alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.horny-rob newsgroup is about!

  39. MOD THIS UP PLEASE!!! (Score:-1)
    by egg troll [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.11 5:34 (#2550024 [slashdot.org] )

    +5, Arousing

    For more info check out this /. article [google.com]

  40. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:39 (#2549891 [slashdot.org] )

    WINNER>

  41. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:37 (#2549887 [slashdot.org] )

    I love you. Why do you use your bitchslapped account, rather than signing up for a new account to post at +1 before getting bitchslapped by the censors here? I guess I should speak for myself, but I don't want to log out and lose all my slashdot customization properties, nor do I want to lose my 50 karma yet.

  42. Re:On Taco-Snotting (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.09 9:19 (#2542412 [slashdot.org] )

    you fucking rock! right down to the expanded cvs id!

    WIPO trolls > linux

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$Id: tacosnotting.html,v 1.12 2001/12/02 20:07:02 wipo Exp $

Give or take? (1)

pajama (48556) | more than 12 years ago | (#2697940)

Miguel: And on top of things, I always loved various things about Java. I just did not love the Java combo that you were supposed to give or take.

Java combo? Now I understand why he didn't choose to use Java as a plataform... He wanted to give AND take.

Ricardo

Re:Give or take? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2697982)

The java combo refers to Sun's inability to seperate their API, their virtual ISA, and their language.

Each is a seperate entity, but they'd like you to believe that its all one unit. Of course, being a Java programmers, you did believe that. Good boy. Don't think for yourself; we here at Sun Marketing (tm) know far better what you should think.

Re:Give or take? (1)

sbrown123 (229895) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698505)

Being a Java programmer for years, I can admit to their being a simple problem with Java: Sun. If Sun would give the API up to a standards board I would be happy. But they hang on to it which raises the fear of what they may plan in the future. Image having to pay per virtual machine. Dont think it can happen? Hopefully challenges from languages like Python and TCL will force them into giving it up. Until then, Miguel is correct.

It seems that every time Miguel de Icaza... (-1)

I.T.R.A.R.K. (533627) | more than 12 years ago | (#2697952)

...comes to town, my hubcaps go missing.
What's the fucking deal with that?

Miguel is the smart fellow (3, Troll)

Chloe Dubois (541434) | more than 12 years ago | (#2697961)

I, as a Linux user, am quite glad that the GNOME project continues to prosper as it is doing despite the constant turmoiling between them in KDE. While many people cast off GNOME the project since KDE appears more matur and featureful, this is mainly because GNOME is trying for more interesting features that in the long run will be best for Linux in the desktop.

This Bonobo architecture is exactly the extension of the classic Unix philosophie of small components that is long needed. My fiancé Yves, who works often programming for Windows, often complains of the oldness of the pipe and socket IPC systems in Unix, which while powerful, are dreadfully simple. When I try to convince him to look at Linux this is his grandest complaint. Unlike Microsoft's COM and GNOME's CORBA-based Bonobo systèmes, there is no handling of the interface, inheritance or other high-level object oriented structures necessary for advanced high-level programming.

KDE's DCOP and KParts are rather incomplete imitations of CORBA. While I can understand the need to avoid the overheading of CORBA, with modern ORBs like GNOME's ORBit this is negligible, and on modern 2GHz machines who cares about the tiny loss in performance? CORBA has far more of the flexibilitie, allowing for not only better network independence and component structure, but also very important Language independence! This makes Mono very easy to integrate for GNOME since it can already be programmed for any language in common usage. KDE's equivalents are no comparison.

I am really happy to see that Miguel and his GNOME project are getting such publicity even from the "evil" Microsoft. GNOME is really Linux's best bet for the desktop in the immediate future.

(You must forgive my english, it is not my best language ^_^)

Re:Miguel is the smart fellow (3, Insightful)

jonathan_ingram (30440) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698030)

Are you sure you haven't cut and pasted this from a discussion before KDE 2 came out?

CORBA is a nice idea, but grossly over designed. DCOP + KParts work exceptionally well, as evidenced by the ease with which they have been extending and developing Konqueror this last year. The KDE team are open to using CORBA, but only once GNOME have shown that it is an actual viable solution.

Multi-language support is already good in KDE 2, and will be better in KDE 3.

GNOME may be the best desktop alternative in the long term, but it certainly isn't in the short term, and I have my doubts about the medium term as well.

Re:Miguel is the smart fellow (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698118)

the pipe and socket IPC systems in Unix, which while powerful, are dreadfully simple

And this is bad, because...?

Re:Miguel is the smart fellow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698956)

Because you can't really use pipes to transfer data between apps, if the data cannot be represented well in a flat, stream-like way. Having IPC in form of objects and method calls between them is much simpler for many tasks, and especially useful in making document-processing office progs, etc.
To do this, the standard way is to use an Object Request Broker system, which standartizes the calls, and Gnome with Bonobo is doing this pretty well.

Re:Miguel is the smart fellow (5, Insightful)

Metrol (147060) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698156)

KDE's DCOP and KParts are rather incomplete imitations of CORBA.

First off, I'm not a developer. At best I just read a fair amount about what folks are doing. One of the things I personally found interesting about this interview was Miguel listing problems with Bonobo and CORBA that sounded a LOT like the reasons KDE doesn't use those technologies. Essentially that bindings such as CORBA are like swatting a fly with a hammer for desktop apps, thus a simpler approach was taken with things like DCOP.

Again, I'm not in the trenches, but from an observers point of view it seems that Gnome is just needing that next set of bindings to be developed sometime later over and over again. Everything was going to be better with CORBA and Bonobo linking everything. Now that's all the wrong approach, and Mono is needed. I may be way of base here, it just seems like it's the "bindings to be developed" of the month club.

On the other hand, KDE made the call to move things to DCOP a while ago and they seem to be sticking to their guns on it. The developers are extending where needed, but leaving the core intact as it's doing what they intended from the onset. I honestly don't know if this is a good or bad thing in practice. It seems like a more reasoned approach, and it's certainly produced a wonderful desktop environment.

Early into next year both projects are looking to have major releases. I guess we'll see which approach provides the payoff of a more robust environment that developers prefer to work on.

Re:Miguel is the smart fellow (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698563)

> One of the things I personally found
> interesting about this interview was Miguel
> listing problems with Bonobo and CORBA that
> sounded a LOT like the reasons KDE doesn't use
> those technologies. Essentially that bindings
> such as CORBA are like swatting a fly with a
> hammer for desktop apps, thus a simpler
> approach was taken with things like DCOP.

Actually, he didn't say this. He said, "CORBA is good when you define coarse interfaces, and most Bonobo interfaces are coarse. The only problem is that Bonobo/CORBA interfaces are not good for small interfaces. For example, an XML parsing Bonobo/CORBA component would be inefficient compared to a C API."

Basically, CORBA is good enough for it's current use (GUI components and general application interfacing) but it's a bit heavy for simple things like a (high performance) XML parsing library. DCOP isn't any more efficient. It's likely less efficient since with DCOP there's a lot of serialization/deserialization to strings whereas that serialization doesn't take place if you're using Orbit (GNOME's CORBA) as an inproc procedure. Even when it happens, it's binary serialization/deserialization so it's likely more efficient.

> Again, I'm not in the trenches, but from an
> observers point of view it seems that Gnome is
> just needing that next set of bindings to be
> developed sometime later over and over again.
> Everything was going to be better with CORBA
> and Bonobo linking everything. Now that's all
> the wrong approach, and Mono is needed. I may
> be way of base here, it just seems like it's
> the "bindings to be developed" of the month club.

Again, no. Bonobo is still good and it solves problems that Mono doesn't. Bonobo interfaces are being added to Mono, just like Gtk+ bindings and gnomedb bindings.

One thing Mono has the power to do is unify GNOME and KDE. Mono is getting full GNOME bindings. From what I understand, there are KDE developers who are working on KDE bindings (including DCOP). Because of the way the C# component architecture works, you can use components with little knowledge on how they were actually built, so you can mix and match more easily. Once the work is done, you should be able to embed a KPart in a GNOME component that's embedded in a KDE component that's embedded in a WinForm component.

I don't know about you, but I think that it's cool enough to be woth pursuing.

Re:Miguel is the smart fellow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698896)

Sorry, but we'd use mono over my dead body. orBiT? maybe, but not likely.

Re:Miguel is the smart fellow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698194)

Unlucky for you then, that GNOME will phase out Bonobo. Yup. I can almost 'guarantee' it, unless of course the mailing lists lie.

Basically Bonobo is:

Hard to use.
Buggy.
Slow (yup, your 2 GHz comp will notice).

But don't listen to me, nearly all top GNOME hackers know this for quite a while now (don't believe me? check out the archives of gnome-hackers, gnome-components), the only reason they don't do it now is because GNOME 2 is coming out. After that they will seriously be looking at a lightweight COM component model without any of the CORBA overhead or complexity and which will serve 99% of what Bonobo currently does.

Re:Miguel is the smart fellow (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698216)

This is 100% percent nonsense. Bonobo is actually quite easy and reasonably fast. Perhaps you never tried coding with it. Hey, perhaps you never tried coding in general! GNOME will NOT move away from bonobo, in fact lots of apps are moving to a more object based design, using guess what, BONOBO!

Re:Miguel is the smart fellow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698909)

This is why Bonobo, while older than DCOP, has been rewritten COMPLETELY from scratch a total of THREE times. Don't think it won't happen a 4th time. Once before,there was a stable version of bonobo out too.

Re:Miguel is the smart fellow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698209)

Hmmm. This is such a troll:

>KDE's DCOP and KParts are rather incomplete imitations of CORBA.

Already you know nothing of KDE... KParts is nothing like CORBA. Man, do you know what you are talking about?

>While I can understand the need to avoid the overheading of CORBA, with modern ORBs like GNOME's ORBit this is negligible

No, it isn't negligible. It (CORBA calls) does not for example compare to the speed of a virtual function, even in orbit. This is a heavy penalyty if you use it.

>CORBA has far more of the flexibilitie, allowing for not only better network independence and component structure

Do you know what bonobo is? How does CORBA make for better component structure? All it does is create an unholy mess of difficulty that no one understands and and about a million race conditions. Bah.

Language independence is a bonobo myth. You have to write an IDL everytime you add your own stuff. This is just duplicating your work. That sucks. KDE already has better bindings than GNOME for java and objective-c. They are complete, including the component architecture. Also they are automatically generated. Anyhow...

Re:Miguel is the smart fellow (0)

negacao (522115) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698276)

I agree.. Microsoft is *not* pure evil..

Okay, maybe their marketing department is, but the coders/development depts. are not.

:-)

Re:Miguel is the smart fellow (1)

Ivan Raikov (521143) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698553)

often complains of the oldness of the pipe and socket IPC systems in Unix, which while powerful, are dreadfully simple

Of course, I'd rather avoid the dreaded simplicity of Unix and use Windows and Gnome, which both are buggy and take 2^48 bytes of memory to run.

Ever heard of KEEP IT SIMPLE, STUPID?

Re:Miguel is the smart fellow (2)

MtViewGuy (197597) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698761)

Actually, I think in many ways Microsoft is giving tacit approval to Ximian's Mono project.

Why? Because Mono would essentially validate everything that Microsoft's .NET initiative stands for, and that means the Number 1 desktop platform (Windows) and the fastest-growing OS platform (Linux) will use more or less the same standard for Internet-wide authentication. .NET plus Mono, IMHO, scares the daylights out of the supporters of the Liberty Alliance project because of this very prospect.

Re:Miguel is the smart fellow (2, Informative)

Mark Pitman (1610) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698923)

(Windows) and the fastest-growing OS platform (Linux) will use more or less the same standard for Internet-wide authentication.

If you read the Mono FAQ, you will see that it really has nothing to do with "Internet-wide authentication". The Liberty Alliance could easily write .Net and/or Mono classes so developers could handle authentication through the Liberty Alliance system instead of Passport.

From the Mono FAQ:
Question 18: If you implement .NET, will I depend on Microsoft Passport to run my software?

No. The .NET Framework is a runtime infrastructure and collection of class libraries. Passport may be required to access certain web services written for that framework, but only if the programmer chooses Passport as the authentication mechanism.

I'll admit that some of the things Microsoft does are "scary", but the .Net development platform actually seems to have some good ideas in it. It is just too bad that MS and Sun couldn't play nice in the past. Then we would just be seeing improvements to the Java standard instead of a whole new platform.

I'd be pretty surprised (1, Flamebait)

MisterBlister (539957) | more than 12 years ago | (#2697965)

Contrary to what chrisd said, I'd be pretty shocked to see Miguel being objective. Have you actually read any of his GNOME vs KDE rants in the past?

Re:I'd be pretty surprised (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698043)

No. URL?

Re:I'd be pretty surprised (1)

Ivan Raikov (521143) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698570)

I'd be pretty shocked to see Miguel being objective.

Perhaps "objective" in this context means "praises Microsoft and bashes Java?"

desperate times, desperate measures? (1, Flamebait)

Karma Sucks (127136) | more than 12 years ago | (#2697967)

It seems like Ximian is latching onto Microsoft to survive. It's not just a gimmick either, Ximian quite recently announced that they had entered the proprietary business with its Exchange Connector.

So is Ximian abandoning the GNU values? All that big talk and fighting words was for naught? Or was it just about garnering public support before pulling the old bait and switch?

Re:desperate times, desperate measures? (4, Interesting)

ukryule (186826) | more than 12 years ago | (#2697999)

Why does working with Microsoft imply an abandonment of GNU values? Ximian are clearly deeply involved in open source projects (i.e. Gnome & Mono) - and as a company are busy working out how to make money from this investment.

You could argue that what open-source needs most is more collaboration with MS. For example, just imagine what it would do for acceptance of Linux if a company worked with MS to produce a reliable up-to-date version of Word for Linux. Of course, if you get into bed with MS, there is a fair chance you're going to get screwed - but that just means that Ximian (or anyone) has to be very careful in their negotiations.

While branding MS as the devil is easy & popular - it may be possible to work with them without selling your soul :-)

Re:desperate times, desperate measures? (2, Informative)

Xandis (90167) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698034)

They are abandoning their GNU values because they are now involved in proprietary software (original poster indicated the particular proprietary product they sell).

GNU is about accepting the fact that source code is nothing more than information. This has been gone over ad nauseum. Any, and I mean any god dammit, attempt to restrict access to source code is evil according to GNU Values. Ximian is now evil. That they are now working with the Devil then should come as no surprise.

Actually, it isn't possible to work with MS without selling your soul. By working with Microsoft you are explicitly telling the world that their licenses and policies and practicies should not be a reason to avoid doing business with MS. They are just another company and we need to be pragmatic about our values -- that's the message Ximian and you are sending.

I think Stallman would give you a pretty harsh answer to your issue about more collaboration with MS.

Re:desperate times, desperate measures? (2)

manyoso (260664) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698219)

"Any, and I mean any god dammit, attempt to restrict access to source code is evil according to GNU Values."

That is a pretty strong statement and smacks in the face of the "Magna Carta" of those GNU Values, ie the GPL. The GPL _does_ restrict access to source code! Albeit, in a way that turns the traditional role of copyright on it's face, but then you are condemining _all_ restrictions on source code right ;)

"Ximian is now evil. That they are now working with the Devil then should come as no surprise."

Please read this. [linuxdoc.org] Come on, how can you expect anyone to take you the least bit seriously. Haven't we all been more than reminded of what true evil is lately? Ximian is evil because they intend to sell a proprietary add-on to a product so that it can be used in conjunction with another proprietary product? Come on!

"Actually, it isn't possible to work with MS without selling your soul. By working with Microsoft you are explicitly telling the world that their licenses and policies and practicies should not be a reason to avoid doing business with MS."

What would you have us do O'Righteous One? Should we similarly brand IBM as evil? After all they do develop proprietary software... Do you suppose that we should not collaborate with IBM or refuse the fruits of there evil help in developing and promoting Linux?

"GNU Values" (2, Insightful)

xueexueg (224483) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698042)

You seem not to be very familiar with GNU values

Ximian are clearly deeply involved in open source projects
GNU is Free Software [gnu.org] , not Open Source.
just imagine what it would do for acceptance of Linux if a company worked with MS to produce a reliable up-to-date version of Word for Linux
The GNU [gnu.org] /Linux [gnu.org] system benefits little from "acceptance". The important thing is that the software be free [gnu.org] . If there are ten people using it and it is Free, then it is better than if ten million are using it and it is non-free.

I know this post is redundant/offtopic/flamebait. But somebody [slashdot.org] needs to get a clue. If all you know about GNU is what you read on linux.com.net.org.mil.gov, spend some time on http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/. GNU is not "Linux". If Microsoft developed a Free version of Word, that would be awful nice. But it would have to compete with real programs, like emacs/vi/OpenOffice/abiword, programs with an established userbase, longstanding reputation, and 90% fewer NSA backdoors.

Re:"GNU Values" (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698098)

Open Source, Free Software. C'mon, it's just word. I wonder how many hours Richard Stallman have been using writing letters bitching about stupid words.

Now, releasing software under GPL is a piece of action. And Ximian have given a lot of lines with code under the gpl to the free software world. But this is a company, and they pay people. Therefore they need a way to pay their programmers after the capital is used up, and if they can do that with open sourc... eh free software, that's great. But if they can't manage to do that, it's still a good thing that they use 90% of their time writing free software, and 10% of their time writing propritary software.

Always give credit where credit is due!

Re:"GNU Values" (2, Insightful)

sydb (176695) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698245)

Open Source, Free Software. C'mon, it's just word.

Kike, Jew. C'mon, they're just words.

The thing about words is that they represent thought processes and attitudes.

Stallman want's to get people to change their attitudes to software. He uses the term Free Software to represent the attitude he wants to people to adopt.

Open Source is a different symbol for a different attitude. There are similarities in the attitude, but they are not the same.

Re:"GNU Values" (2)

ukryule (186826) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698377)

The GNU/Linux system benefits little from "acceptance". The important thing is that the software be free. If there are ten people using it and it is Free, then it is better than if ten million are using it and it is non-free.

This is precisely the sort of sentiment that turns me off GNU. Unless GNU is a religous movement, then the whole point should be for "acceptance" ... how does it benefit mankind if only RMS and his 9 disciples use it?

For me the ultimate goal of Free vs. Open source vs. proprietory software is to find an even balance between letting good developers develop (i.e. give them income or kudos for what they do) and providing users with what they want at a reasonable cost (whether that is $$$s or feedback to the developers community).

Companies like Ximian do (and hopefully will continue to) play a vital role in this - selling some software to pay their developers to develop both proprietory and free software. Their cause is not helped by zealots (from either the free or proprietory side) branding them as traitors.

Re:desperate times, desperate measures? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698009)

Ximian has been doing a good job balancing financial practicality with free software ideoligy. They make a GPL'd PIM (Evolution) and sell a proprietary interface to a proprietary server software. They have to make money, right? Exchange Connector only hurts the people who are already using Exchange.

The idea of using the .NET standard to create a robust component architecture is a pretty good idea. Microsoft is betting the farm on .NET. It is going to succeed. What is the harm in having a GPL implimentation of it? Even if it doesn't help *IX interoperate with the MS world, GNOME (and everybody in the GNU world) get a seemingly good technology. Morover, having Mono will allow the millions of .NET developers to make GPL stuff in the evenings without having to climb a steep learning curve.

Re:desperate times, desperate measures? (1)

abhinavnath (157483) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698293)

>Exchange Connector only hurts the people who are
>already using Exchange.

I'd have thought it only *helps* the people who are already using Exchange ;-)
Why else would it exist?

Re:desperate times, desperate measures? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2699176)

It helps *everyone* interested in free software. It does this by underwriting the costs of developing large (L)GPL'd projects.

Re:desperate times, desperate measures? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698687)

.NET is not an open standard. I think the real purpose of .NET is to justify C#.
C# was needed by M$ to solve the company-internal problem of having a Visual-Basic-Front vs a C++-Front of employees.
Microsoft never had and hasn't any interest in creating a "standard" which will make different platforms exchangeable.
Between COM and .NET will be "such a" revolutionary delta like between Win2k and WinXP ... none!

Re:desperate times, desperate measures? (2)

MtViewGuy (197597) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698788)

I think the reason why the supporters of the competing Liberty Alliance project for Internet authentication are flat-out scared of Mono is that they know that if Mono succeeds, it would essentially validate Microsoft's .NET initiative for Internet authentication, since .NET and Mono operate on more or less the same concepts.

Can you imagine Windows users and most Linux users using .NET/Mono for Internet authentication? That's where we're headed, more or less.

I like to spooge on people! --CmdrTaco (-1)

The WIPO Troll (267426) | more than 12 years ago | (#2697972)

By The WIPO Troll [slashdot.org] , $Revision: 1.12 $

Why have I been receiving emails from CmdrTaco, in which he seems to be speaking in some kind of code language?

Whenever
Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda [cmdrtaco.net] gets bored (and who wouldn't, running a site like Slashdot all day), he roams through the Slashdot database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy engaging in homosexual orgies with him. How he determines this is anyone's guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, or a nick with the letter P in it, you're in trouble.
So this time, he found you. Lucky you.
CmdrTaco's code language is relatively easy to decipher. He prefers to speak in thinly-veiled sexual innuendo to evade the watchful (but relatively stupid) eye of Slashdot's parent corporation,
VA Software [yahoo.com] . CmdrTaco's "Commander" is, of course, his penis -- a small, withered little thing that lives in his pants that only comes out in the presence of other men or at the beck and call of CmdrTaco's own right hand. His "Taco bells" are the shriveled testes that droop beneath his Commander, and his "Taco sauce" is his, well, jizz. It should be more than obvious to you now what he means when he asks you to "ring his Taco bells" or "taste his gourmet Taco sauce."
Lastly, there is a practice he refers to as "Taco-snotting" and the more shocking "circle-snot."

Good Lord. What is "Taco-snotting?"

"Taco-snotting" is the term used by CmdrTaco to refer to the practice of sucking the penis of a homosexual man (or unwilling heterosexual; CmdrTaco is rumored to prefer rape), then blowing the semen out his nose onto his partner's (victim's) face and body. A long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is
left on CmdrTaco's face [yahoo.com] , dribbling out of his nose and down his cheek: hence the term, "Taco-snotting."
A "circle-snot" is a Taco-snotting
circle-jerk, another practice common among the Slashdot crew. CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel [yahoo.com] , and Homos get together and Taco-snot each other with their gooey, sticky cum -- spooging their jizz-snot all over each other's faces and pasty, white bodies, until they're covered head to toe with each other's man juice. This can go on for hours. For the homosexual penetration that follows this lengthy foreplay, Roblowme is usually there to provide plenty of anal lubricant; he owns a limo service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease ready to go.
To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie will usually join in, dressed in tight leather mock-S.S. uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The whole group then proceeds to snot each other's spunk and whip each other's pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pale, white geek bodies are exhausted and soaked in stinking sweat from the hours of passionate, homosexual revelry.

Ewwwwww. So, can I stop receiving these emails?

Hopefully.
You most likely forgot to uncheck the "Willing to Taco-snot" checkbox in your account preferences. CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad, and he's probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube. There's no escaping a geek in heat, so it's probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTaco's sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on
Messages, and uncheck the box next to "Willing to Taco-snot." Maybe he'll ignore you. Probably not.

I can't stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?

If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, he
might leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge... oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot you, you will most likely end up tied up in his basement to be used as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a circle-snot).

Have you ever been Taco-Snotted?

Unfortunately, yes. I first met CmdrTaco at an
Open Source Convention [yahoo.com] . He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake and some "gourmet Tacos," but when I got there, he jumped me and tied me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his "Commander" out of his pants, Mr. Taco made me suck the withered thing six times. He then performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm after sweaty, mind-numbing orgasm... then he snotted my own milky-white jizz back onto my face, into my mouth, then again on my exposed belly.
CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, "Open Sauce" -- man sauce) buddies over to continue the twisted snotfest. Linux Torvalds
raped my ass [yahoo.com] with his "monolithic kernel [yahoo.com] ," and Anal Cox used his "network stack" in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice in my defenseless body. Michael was there in his leather Nazi uniform, caning my ass with a bamboo pole and ranting about "all those Censorware freaks out to get him."
How did you finally escape, you ask? After about 16 hours of countless homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my restrained body, they all finally went to sleep on top of me, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, covered in bubbly, translucent jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with half a dozen fat, pasty-white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my flesh worked wonderfully as a lubricant; I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door. I'm just glad I survived the ordeal. These geeks had a lot of built-up spunk in their wads -- I could've easily been drowned!

That's horrible. Does "Taco-snotting" have anything to do with CmdrTaco's "special taco"?

No, that's a different disgusting perversion CmdrTaco indulges himself in. CmdrTaco is usually not satisfied with merely snotting your own jizz back onto your face, he most often enjoys involving his own bodily fluids in his twisted games.
WeatherTroll [slashdot.org] has spent some time trying to educate the Slashdot readership about this vile practice (emphasis added):
You may be wondering what CmdrTaco's "special taco" is. You will be wishing that you hadn't been wondering after you finish reading this post. To make his "special taco", CmdrTaco takes a taco shell and
shits on it. He then adds lettuce, jacks off on the taco, and adds a compound to make the person who eats the taco unconscious. Of course, the compound does not make the person unconscious until the taco is fully eaten. Thus CmdrTaco force-feeds the taco to the unsuspecting victim.
After the victim is unconscious, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTaco's nefarious sexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victim's ass, Taco-snotting, and getting Jon Katz involved.
Completely different, yet no less revolting. It should be clear to you now that CmdrTaco is a very, very sick individual, as are most of the Slashdot editors.

Does Jon Katz get involved in any of this? I thought he was a paedophile, not a homosexual.

Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual paedophile. He's also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zoophile. Jon Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesn't involve himself in circle-snots. Mr. Katz usually engages in a game called "
Katz juicy-douching [yahoo.com] " with his harem of little-boy slaves: a vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boy's urine (forced out of them with a pair of pliers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then squirting and slathering the goo all over himself, and the little boy's chained-up and naked bodies. If he's in the mood, he will sometimes skip refilling the enema bag and just squirt it from his ass [yahoo.com] onto his boys. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pliers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them for the rest of their lives.
As I already said, Mr. Katz is
also a zoophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys aren't enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goat's anus [yahoo.com] . He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goat's small, bean-like turds.

...Are you getting hard writing this?

Why, yes. :) Join me in a WIPO-snot?

No, thanks. I'm already CmdrTaco's boi toi.

________________________________________
READER COMMENTS

  1. Fucking hilarious too bad it didnt get a 5:Funny (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.02 19:01 (#2644105 [slashdot.org] )

    this is good shit man

  2. Re:Taco-snotting@Home! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Dark_Cobra87 [slashdot.org] on 2001.12.01 23:03 (#2642180 [slashdot.org] )

    Oops, forgot to check that Taco-snot option...

  3. Re:Fuck Linux! Fuck him hard! (Score:-1)
    by Fecal Troll Matter [slashdot.org] on 2001.12.01 20:55 (#2641791 [slashdot.org] )

    Mmmmmmm, Taco Sauce... [galeon.com]

    Sig (appended to the end of comments you post, 120 chars)

  4. Look (Score:-1)
    by ArchieBunker [slashdot.org] on 2001.12.01 20:19 (#2641679 [slashdot.org] )

    I love trolling but this shit is getting old, fast. At least start mixing them up a little bit. How about the 'How OSM was Freed' series?
    http://www.naawp.org/

  5. Re:Congratulations! You have been WIPO'd!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.01 8:37 (#2640602 [slashdot.org] )

    Stop posting this! I've got hangover and Taco Snotting doesn't make me feel any better.

    I'm really glad that Taco Snotting is illegal here in Europe.

  6. Re:Snot me baby, one more time! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.30 1:01 (#2634213 [slashdot.org] )

    Get a life you loser! Don't you have anything better to do than insult CmdrTaco and the gay community? We are not perverts, we are human beings just like you. So give it a rest!

  7. Re:Hello, perdida!!! Won't you snot my face tonigh (Score:-1)
    by perdida on [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.27 14:13 (#2618764 [slashdot.org] )

    Shut up you asshole.

    I am not great, I am merely adequate. I live in adequacy.

  8. Go back to Russia. (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.26 22:22 (#2616035 [slashdot.org] )

    You weiner trool!

  9. Re:The Taco-Snotting FAQ Rides Again!! (Updated so (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.25 9:14 (#2609574 [slashdot.org] )

    try to find a pic of actual "taco-snotting"! fucking funny it would be! so go to gay porn sites day in and day out until you find a man giving another man a blowjob that has jizz coming out of his nose and mouth. by the way, keep up the good work

  10. Re:Snotting another first!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.23 12:18 (#2603370 [slashdot.org] )

    WIPO, this is getting waaaay old, either drop it or revise it.... there've been no updates for days now...

    CmdrTaco

  11. Re:It's Taco SPAM!!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.22 17:28 (#2600815 [slashdot.org] )

    A truly excellent and very humourous troll indeed!
    However...

    To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie often join in, dressed in black Gestapo uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves.

    Black GeStaPo uniforms? The GeStaPo (Geheime Staatspolizei - Secret State Police) wore civilian clothes (although there are reports on them occasionally using Allgemeine SS uniforms in occupied territories).

    I seriously doubt that perverted individuals like CmdrTaco et al would have the good taste to ever wear the outstandingly beautiful black Waffen SS uniforms! Please update the FAQ accordingly.

    • Re:It's Taco SPAM!!! (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.23 4:06 (#2602610 [slashdot.org] )

      Actually, it appears you are both wrong!! Ah ha!! I think our boy WIPO was thinking of the Allgemeine SS [militariacollection.com] uniforms. Waffen SS were grey.

  12. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:49 (#2594325 [slashdot.org] )

    oh yeah, you say you have masturbated only 2 times to this post. well, by the time it takes for me to get through reading it, i usually end up masturbated 5 to 6 times, 10 to 12 if i have the goatse.cx homepage loaded up and am looking at it side by side with the slashdot page. my keyboard, hands, mouse, monitor, the underside of my desk and around the floor under my desk are cum soaked and sticky with the man smell i know and love.

  13. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:41 (#2594311 [slashdot.org] )

    for version 2 you should make a total re-write of the cod...errr...text and add some details about cmdrtaco and the homo-gang's happenings with their coworkers (osdn?) and all of the gay revelry they enjoy and promote. by the way, did i just see cmdrtaco on television promoting the nax hair removal system? i guess after using vaseline in and around his ass he grew quite a ponytail and it had to be removed somehow...ouch!

  14. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
    by TRoLLaXoR [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.21 3:59 (#2594191 [slashdot.org] )

    WIPO, do you notice how few comments you get for anything you write/post/spam nowadays?

    -Trollaxor

  15. Jon-Katz docking (Score:-1)
    by sales_worldwide [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.20 11:53 (#2588488 [slashdot.org] )

    You forgot to mention Jon Katz's "docking" games, where he places his chopper head to head with another chap, and rolls the other guys foreskin over his own circumcised end ("docking"), providing him with fantasies of actually having his own forskin ...
    "Making linux GPL was the best thing I ever did" - Torvalds. I'd hate to see the worst thing...

  16. Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1)
    by Fucky the troll [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.20 11:28 (#2588446 [slashdot.org] )

    Woah! When did the WIPO troll get freed? And how the fuck did I miss it?

    Excellent FP, sir.

    This is a sig virus. Please put me in your sig

  17. Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.20 11:04 (#2588407 [slashdot.org] )

    omg that is crapflooding material if i ever saw it!!!!!! and u got a first post!!!! whoot to the wipo troll!!!

  18. GW, please.... (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 9:03 (#2583756 [slashdot.org] )

    GW...you know we love every hair on your 27 acre ass... and I, for one, would never do anything untowards your graceful demeanor. And you probably have several friends that would love to help you do the bear dance all over my face if I so much as spelled your name wrong. And you know I'd defend your Constitutional right to defame God in heaven. I'd even help fund your education, should you ever decide to take that route. Hell, I'd buy you a tall tepid bear-whiz beer if you were here with me, right now!

    But. ...if you can't find another topic, I'm gonna step over your dead mother's grave and kick your assuredly anesthetitized butt clear across the playground.

    Now go stick your shaved head back down inside the woman's toilet, and just to show there's no hard feelings, I'll jump in the tow-truck and drive right over to help you pull it right out...ok?

    thanks

  19. Re:Help me Taco-Snotters!! (Score:-1)
    by mark knopfler 69 [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.19 8:25 (#2583695 [slashdot.org] )

    I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU SIR. FOR ONE THING, THE E-MAIL FROM CMDRTACO DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH GRAMMATICAL AND SPELLING MISTAKES. Let's be realistic here, CmdrTaco usually types with one hand, and since he is shaking from jacking off his aim on the keyboard isn't too good. Those e-mails were a little too well written. Sorry boy, you'll have to do better.

  20. Re: What the hell is "taco snotting"? (Score:-1)
    by WeatherTroll [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.19 8:14 (#2583667 [slashdot.org] )

    You should update this to say VA Software instead of VA Linux.

  21. YOU ARE WINNER (Score:1)
    by smackmonkey [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.19 7:06 (#2583510 [slashdot.org] )

    Crackhead moderators: this is +5, Hilarious material.

    --
    CNN declares War on Islam!
    Left-wing America declares War on its Civil Liberties!

  22. Re:On Taco-Snotting 1.9 (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 5:40 (#2583336) [slashdot.org]

    This was funny the first 100 times. Now it is getting boring!

  23. Digusting and Shameful (Score:-1)
    by egg troll [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.18 22:27 (#2582054 [slashdot.org] )

    Having masturbated *twice* to this post, I'm still incredibly aroused! Come over for a Taco Snot. I'll be wearing my crotchless Clifford the Big Red Dog outfit!!

    For more info check out this /. article [google.com]

  24. IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:-1, Flamebait)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:03 (#2580822 [slashdot.org] )

    add more links to goatse and to cowboineal's site to make it better. a link to rotten.com would be nice too

    • Re:IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:18 (#2580832 [slashdot.org] )

      and a link to michael's site and to jon katz's site if he has one and homo's site. i dont know what else to say. maybe a few links to phallic.org they have nice penis pictures! a link to the planet quake site or whatever. really make the reader feel this faq really answers their questions. oh yeah, and when you talk about cmdrtaco snotting you, say he brought you to "orgasm after sweaty orgasm". describe it more is all i'm saying. and use more italics and bolding! and when you talk about jon katz shitting or whatever have a link to fecal japan on rotten.com

      other wise a great job wipo troll! keep up the good work!

  25. Re:CmdrTaco's filthy secret! (Score:-1)
    by Wil Wheaton [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.18 6:41 (#2580438 [slashdot.org] )

    Hi. Let's be buddies.. butt buddies.
    --
    WIL WHEATON DOT NET [wilwheaton.net]

  26. WIPO speaks the truth (Score:-1)
    by dead_puppy [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.18 5:33 (#2580342 [slashdot.org] )

    Here is an e-mail I received a week ago:

    From: malda@slashdot.org
    To: puppy_dead@hotmail.com
    Subject: were where you last friday? :(

    I thought we where supposed to meet at Backdoor's at 8-ish, sugar-lips? You could've at least told me that you could'nt make it! I was even in my favorite pink skirt for you, honey-cup... next time, you could be more considarite and tell me you cant come... bastard.

    --
    CmdrTaco (malda@slashdot.org)

    You finding Ling-Ling's [babysue.com] head?

  27. Taco snotting is WRONG!!! (Score:-1)
    by Big_Ass_Spork [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.18 4:53 (#2580300 [slashdot.org] )

    I do it wrong

    Laying here in the shadows of my room, I squint up at my love. My Ms. Portman. I am sore and tired after fucking her for eight solid hours. My chapped and aching dick is soaking in grits to relieve the pain. She gets on her knees and starts lapping the grits up out of the bowl. She places her beautiful hands on my penis and starts to lick the grits off my achy piece.

    Massaging my nutsack she....

    WAIT, I DO IT WRONG!!!!

    Yanking my dick out of her mouth I throw her to the ground and shove it in to her gaping freshly fisted ass. [goatse.cx]

    "OH BIG ASS SPORK!! Fuck my ass, fuck my ass good. DEEPER, my stallion, deeper!! Make a Beowulf cluster of sperm on my back!!"

    "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of this baby!"

    I DO IT WRONG!!!!

    ---
    All your Sporks are belong to Big_Ass_Spork! What you say?! All your Sporks are belo... forget it...

  28. Rob Malda Dead at age 25! (Score:-1)
    by j0nkatz [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.17 22:54 (#2579596 [slashdot.org] )

    I just heard some sad news on the radio -- famous queerbait Rob Malda was found dead in his Holland home this morning. The details were a bit hazy, but it seems that he drowned in jizz while Taco Snotting his friend Hemos. I'm sure everyone in the /. community will miss him -- even if you didn't enjoy his queer antics and boring ass website, there's no denying his contributions to the homosesual cultural development, particularly in the areas of Taco snotting. Truly an American icon.

    I wanna Open Source sex so it won't be worth a shit either.

  29. TACO-SNOTTING is really Donkey-Punching (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.15 6:38 (#2567601 [slashdot.org] )

    No no no, the correct term for that is "donkey-punch". I have eye-witnessed this amazing eye-popping event demonstrated on unsuspecting hose-monsters by my frat brothers in the past.. . :-)

  30. Re:the effect of knowlege laws... (Score:1)
    by AbsoluteRelativity [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.15 5:31 (#2567457 [slashdot.org] )

    The WIPO Troll [foundus.com]
    Slashdot and the Karma Lottery - News for uber monkeys, by uber monkeys.

  31. Re:Taco-Snotting (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:27 (#2557632 [slashdot.org] )

    Oh, man that's just sick !

  32. HOW DO I GET AN ANONYMOUS PROXY? (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:03 (#2557604 [slashdot.org] )

    TELL ME WHERE I CAN GET AN ANONYMOUS proxy please WIPO Troll. Maybe later i will join you in a snotting at my place. ;P

  33. Re:Taco-Snottage!?!?!? (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by vikool [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.13 7:43 (#2557495 [slashdot.org] )

    what is this bull shit,i feel offened that some people feel so so senseless to post stuff like these esp when such a tragic incident has occured

  34. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1)
    by I.T.R.A.R.K. [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.11 22:38 (#2551890 [slashdot.org] )

    Where the fuck do I sign up?!

    - I throw rocks at retarded kids

    "Adequacy.org: Where congenital stupidity is not an option, but a requirement."

  35. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 21:53 (#2551753 [slashdot.org] )

    this shit is hilarious..keep up the good work.

  36. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by rockwood [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.11 21:49 (#2551746 [slashdot.org] )

    OMG! That is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard! WHo in their right mind would sit down and waste the time to construct such a replusive story. I guess I'll be skipping lunch and dinner today.. and possibly tomorrow also. The game doesn't affect reality. Reality affects the game.

  37. Re:Ban this! It's disgusting!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 14:43 (#2550701 [slashdot.org] )

    dude, this is crap-flood material if i ever saw it.
    duuuuuuuuudddddddddddddeeeeeeeee.

  38. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Flamebait)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 8:16 (#2550266 [slashdot.org] )

    horny_rob_6969@hotmail.com

    Ah, so that's what the alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.horny-rob newsgroup is about!

  39. MOD THIS UP PLEASE!!! (Score:-1)
    by egg troll [slashdot.org] on 2001.11.11 5:34 (#2550024 [slashdot.org] )

    +5, Arousing

    For more info check out this /. article [google.com]

  40. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:39 (#2549891 [slashdot.org] )

    WINNER>

  41. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:37 (#2549887 [slashdot.org] )

    I love you. Why do you use your bitchslapped account, rather than signing up for a new account to post at +1 before getting bitchslapped by the censors here? I guess I should speak for myself, but I don't want to log out and lose all my slashdot customization properties, nor do I want to lose my 50 karma yet.

  42. Re:On Taco-Snotting (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.09 9:19 (#2542412 [slashdot.org] )

    you fucking rock! right down to the expanded cvs id!

    WIPO trolls > linux

________________________________________

$Id: tacosnotting.html,v 1.12 2001/12/02 20:07:02 wipo Exp $

Devil and God (1, Flamebait)

ImaLamer (260199) | more than 12 years ago | (#2697978)

I know, open source, nothing to hide. We can all see the code and which way it's going.

But I don't understand this interview on MSdn! Why even do the interview? Was he given sodium pentathol?[sp]

But in the first line the interviewer says that he's into UNIX, but isn't UNIX the proprietary version that we all want to get away from? Read:
Summary: In this interview, Miguel de Icaza, the founder of GNOME and Ximian, talks about UNIX components, Bonobo, Mono, and Microsoft .NET.

But my favorite [in the closing about the author]:
Dare Obasanjo is a senior at the Georgia Institute of Technology working towards his Bachelor of Science degree in computer science. He spends his free time posting to online forums like Slashdot, Kuro5hin and Advogato, as well as writing various articles on programming and software. He has interned for various companies including Radiant Systems, i2 Technologies and Microsoft, and is currently debating the merits of a graduate degree but will most likely end up in Redmond when his time at GA Tech is over.

Posting on /.? I guess I can expect a fanboy reply to this post.

Re:Devil and God (1)

mandolin (7248) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698027)

But in the first line the interviewer says that he's into UNIX, but isn't UNIX the proprietary version that we all want to get away from?

Well, depends. *BSD could be considered flavors of UNIX. If you're speaking trademark-wise, the Unix Trademark Page [unix-systems.org] basically says they're not.. OTOH that same page also says you can't use UNIX in the generic sense, so prepare to be sued :)

Re:Devil and God (1)

kormoc (122955) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698037)

*GASP* who would have thought that a future microsoft drone would read /.? MY GOD. Could it be that even the current drones read /.? Who would of thought of this? Not I!

Re:Devil and God (2)

cygnusx (193092) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698920)

Go check his /. User Page [slashdot.org] ... I wouldn't say this guy's a drone.

Carnage4Life 4 Life! (0, Offtopic)

TheophileEscargot (309117) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698050)

I believe Dare Obananjo is Carnage4Life [slashdot.org] .

Re:Carnage4Life 4 Life! (1)

jotaeleemeese (303437) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698162)

Yes, he is. He has posted numerous times very interesting articles.

His MS bias and unconscious hate of Open Source(which in conjunction the calls objectivity) shows often but at least he is open about it and everybody knows his background.

By the way, he his the son of the current president of a big country (it should take you 5 minutes to find which one).

... and the answer is ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698286)

By the way, he his the son of the current president of a big country (it should take you 5 minutes to find which one).

Nigeria!

Did I win anything?

Re:... and the answer is ... (1, Offtopic)

MSBob (307239) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698757)

Absolutely!

85p and a pack of Rolos!

Re:Devil and God (1)

Ivan Raikov (521143) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698642)

It should also be noted that instructors at the College of Computing at Georgia Tech (which I'm also attending) have been known in the past to accept money from Microsoft in exchange for their appraisal of certain Microsoft products during lecture.

So unfortunately, this entire school is Microsoft-friendly. Thank goodness we are still allowed to use an operating system (Linux) for project development in most CS classes.

Miguel is a sellout (-1, Flamebait)

Ryu2 (89645) | more than 12 years ago | (#2697981)

Go back to cleaning toilets like the rest of your countrymen.

huh huh (-1)

count_sporkula (446625) | more than 12 years ago | (#2697984)

spank your monkey, huh huh

Another repeated posting! (5, Insightful)

Yakman (22964) | more than 12 years ago | (#2697989)

This is the same interview as posted on /. back in September [slashdot.org] . I recognised the name of the interviewer and searched the archives on a whim.

Blah blah.. standard crap about reading your own site :)

Re:Another repeated posting! (1)

yobbo (324595) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698200)

Maybe the fact that the interview was posted on MSDN makes it news again :)

Urgh... [OT] (0, Redundant)

CoolVibe (11466) | more than 12 years ago | (#2697996)

Does someone have a local copy/mirror? It won't display right (if at all) in Konqueror...

Re:Urgh... [OT] (1)

CoolVibe (11466) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698026)

agh... seems to work okay, guess I was too impatient :P

Nix that request :-)

Deja Vu? (1, Redundant)

manic micko (247784) | more than 12 years ago | (#2697998)

Uh oh... yep, it happened again...

See http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/09/24/171241 &mode=thread [slashdot.org] for the last time this interview was posted. Interesting however than MSDN posted it... but this is old news fellas.

Interesting how Slashdot seems to be about 5% reposts! Literally!

Re:Deja Vu? (1)

glwtta (532858) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698010)

Interesting how Slashdot seems to be about 5% reposts! Literally!

What's the friggin' problem?? Seriously? No one's forcing you to read it again! I for one haven't seen it before, but I still don't see how 50 people screaming "it's a repeat!!!" helps anyone, with anything.

Re:Deja Vu? (1)

sharkey (16670) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698124)

Perhaps this is why chrisd is surpirsed rather than surprised?

No one was banned from DotGNU lists (5, Informative)

bkuhn (41121) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698008)

There is a factual error in the interview.

No one was banned from any DotGNU lists. A few times in the early days of the project, the lists were put into moderation mode when discussion got inappropriately heated or off topic. Martin claimed that having this moderation imposed constitued banning, but that simply isn't the case. It's unfortunate that Martin felt rejected by the need for moderation, but we didn't intend it as such.

I even personally had some of my posts rejected during one of the moderation periods.

Bradley M. Kuhn, member of the DotGNU Steering Committee

Revisionist history (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698317)

Nice try. The list was not put into moderation mode. Norbert Bollow singled out Martin and banned him from posting. You could say that Martin was "moderated", but only if "moderating" means Norbert preventing any of Martin's posts from reaching the list. Nobody else was moderated at the time. Obviously Martin was being an irritant, but there was a lot of immaturity on both sides.

He's M$ Employee ??? (0, Flamebait)

mr_w4w (538480) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698035)

"Miguel de Icaza: Microsoft is remarkably good at keeping their APIs backwards compatible (and this is one of the reasons I think they have had so much success as a platform vendor). So I think that this would not be a problem. " oh reallly ? what r this guy talking about ....

Hello (-1)

Cheesy Fool (530943) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698036)

How are you today?

Re:He's M$ Employee ??? (4, Informative)

simong (32944) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698215)

The MS APIs have been reasonably consistent since Windows 3. A new OS or library only adds functions, doesn't revise old ones. You should be able to compile Win 3.x code on XP with little problem should you so wish.

Re:He's M$ Employee ??? (0, Troll)

Ivan Raikov (521143) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698674)

The MS APIs have been reasonably consistent since Windows 3.

Such as, for example, the backporting of Win32 from NT to Windows 3.x. Microsoft's API are consistent. They have always been consistent. Big Brother Bill tells me so. Production of boots has increased 75%.

Re:He's M$ Employee ??? (1)

Ivan Raikov (521143) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698758)

Such as, for example, the backporting of Win32 from NT to Windows 3.x.

May I inquire why this is a troll? Because I disagree with the above's poster opinion, perhaps?

We could have had a working Mono two years ago. (5, Insightful)

mj6798 (514047) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698049)

I'm glad to see that there are open source projects based on a language and runtime that supports a component architecture and runtime safety from the ground up. I think a Linux desktop environment and services platform based on C#/CLR will be so much better, more efficient, and more robust than the current systems based on plain C or C++. This has long been overdue.

What I am disappointed about is that the Linux community could have started on this several years ago. While there are some cosmetic differences between C#/CLR and Java/JVM, the object models and performance of the two languages and runtimes are essentially the same. And there actually are already several open source, high performance Java implementations already.

Even today, I think it still makes more sense to use something like GNU gcj or Intel's Open Runtime and maybe the existing native Gnome widgets (for which there are already Java bindings). But Mono is obviously not going to go that route. Too bad.

Re:We could have had a working Mono two years ago. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698348)

The object models and performance of the two languages and runtimes are essentially the same.

Despite the fact that Microsoft whores like Carnage4Life would have you believe that C# is faster than machine language, easier to write than python, and more powerful than C++, while Java is the worst thing since COBOL or VB, you're basically right.

Makes you wonder why exactly there are so many articles on how great C# is and how horrible Java is, doesn't it? Maybe certain people at Microsoft are afraid of the open source community doing something like this with Java?

Re:We could have had a working Mono two years ago. (1)

JohnDenver (246743) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698803)

Microsoft doesn't need to say any of that...

1. VB.NET ACTUALLY does compiles as effeciently as C, after the MSIL to 0x86 JIT. (The debugger will actually show 0x86 code for each line of VB code like they didn't in VC++)
2. They don't need to make claims it's fast as hand tuned 0x86.
3. C++ is supported in .NET (Managed C++)
4. They tout C# as Java plus the features you wanted in Java.
5. They now support Java and 1.1 libraries in .NET
6. COBOL and Python are supported too, so no need to bash those languages.
7. Win32 developers don't have to move to another development environment that doesn't have all the menus, keyboard shortcuts, and cute toolbars thier so used to.

Here's what MS is targeted.
1. VM which interprets bytecode (HOW HORRIBLE!!!)
2. Sun's lack of support for other languages...
3. Java's higher learning curve
4. Web services aren't built right it and easy to make like .NET
5. Inability to port Win32 code from VB or C++ (I know, I know, .NET doesn't do a great job porting VB code either, but that's not the point. :) )

... plus whatever else they can pull out of thier butt...

Re:We could have had a working Mono two years ago. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698807)

I read sometime ago an article about how easy/difficult it is to port new languages to JVM.

They complained about the lack of "goto" and some direct memory management.Without goto it was possible to port a modified version of language.

Personally, I think that the MONO is aiming not just interface/class architecture,bytecode,garbage collection, secure library, because these are all in the java.

They are aiming also a way to interoperate at object level between several languages.Now that would only be feasible if other languages were implemented whith java objects (not java bytecode)like jython or jruby.

ctyu

Why this obsession with languages? (2)

ukryule (186826) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698395)

The reasons .NET & mono are being developed now rather than years ago are the developments in inter-connectivity and networking over recent years. Nowadays, it's virtually assumed that every machine will be networked with a reasonable bandwidth. This allows a range of applications and services which are distributed over a range of PCs, servers or toasters [theregister.co.uk] (ok, maybe not toasters for a few more years ...)

However one of the underlying principles of this is that it should free you from the constraints of programming languages - if one part of your system is written in C, another in Perl, and yet another in java, so what? As long as they can all communicate it makes no difference.

So why is .NET (and mono) so closely linked to C#? Does it really give you big advantages over FORTRAN? (I'm sure there are business reasons for M$ to want everyone to use their language, but are there any technical ones?)

Re:We could have had a working Mono two years ago. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2699039)

"I think a Linux desktop environment and services platform based on C#/CLR will be so much better, more efficient, and more robust than the current systems based on plain C or C++."

C# is in no way more efficient then C++ compiled to machine code (in .net you can also compile it to CLR byte code, but then why use C++). C#'s big benifits are that it is theoretically cross platform (by cross platform I mean it will run on all platforms with a CLR), a hell of a lot faster then Java, and a newer, less kludgy language then C++.

If you want a blazing fast .net service that can handle the most number of concurrent connections, write it in C++. If you want the service to run on multiple platforms write it in C# (or be masochistic and write in C++ and compile to byte code). That being said, the new managed C++ in .net blows ass.

I Want To Set MSDN On Fire. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698052)



"I want to set MSDN on fire."

- The Guy Who Wants To Set Things On Fire.

Nice to see Brad Cox mentioned (5, Interesting)

LizardKing (5245) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698053)

I was pleased to see Brad Cox mentioned - the man who invented Objective C (the lesser known Object Oriented C derivative). His seminal book on Object Oriented Programming was the first thing I read on the subject, and although I was disappointed in one sense - I was expecting the equivalent of K&R for Objective C - it was a great read on why software hadn't advanced in the same leaps and bounds as hardware. The books goals (maximium code reuse through self contained components called software IC's) have still not been fully realised, but Java Beans and Bonobo components are definitely a step in the right direction.

Playing with the devil? (1)

Brissie_lad (523538) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698056)

Getting into bed with MS might be more like a sardine swimming around in front of a killer whale....we all know the history of a lot of small companies that have tried to play with MS. One thing we don't have to worry about is gnome being swallowed along with the sardine.

I am your Wipo God (-1)

The WIPO Troll (267426) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698102)

I can smite you with a mere wave of my penis. I am your God!

I BREAK THINGS!!

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Katz.is.also.a.zoophile..As.if.the.sexual......esc apades..with.the.helpless.little.boys.aren't.enoug h,.Jon.usually......enjoys.his.juicy-douches.best. when.his.penis.is.firmly.planted.in.a......female. .goat's.anus..He.is.also.rumoured.to.get.off.on.wa tching.his......little.boys.eat.the.goat's.small,. bean-like.turds.........Are.you.getting.hard.writi ng.this?.......Why,.yes..:).Join.me.in.a.WIPO-snot ?.....No,.thanks..I'm.already.CmdrTaco's.boi.toi.> </a>

MSDN (5, Funny)

Marcus Brody (320463) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698218)

"An interview with Miguel de Icaza on MSDN?"

-- I thought --

"Hey, maybe they arent such a bad bunch after all..."

Then, I clicked on the link, and my netscape browser promptly crashed.

Re:MSDN (1)

overturf (193264) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698353)

Funny post, sure... but realistically, how is it MS' fault that you "clicked on the link" and your "netscape browser promptly crashed". Come on.

Re:MSDN (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698380)

Its a joke man, lighten up. However, I am telling it exactly the way it happened. I didnt say it was MS' fault either. It was just ironic that netscape crashed at that point. You do know what irony is, right? You are american, i take it.
I am sure that if anything is to blame it is netscape. It can be unstable at best. I tried going back to MSDN with netscape two minutes later and it worked just fine.

--MB

Re:MSDN (1)

fizban (58094) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698559)

Hmmm, maybe it crashed because Netscape makes a crappy ass browser that can't do shit. Who's fault is it really?

Re:MSDN (1)

yipyow (317154) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698781)

try opera...it whips both netscape and ie into finely mashed browser potatoes.

Dangerous collaboration? (1, Flamebait)

PastaAnta (513349) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698256)

Given that Microsoft percieves Linux as Threat Number One [slashdot.org] one can't stop wonder what Microsofts hidden agenda is.

Why will Microsoft silently allow Mono or even collaborate?

Re:Dangerous collaboration? (5, Funny)

ukryule (186826) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698408)

Given that Linux perceives Microsoft as Threat Number One (see most links here) [slashdot.org] one can't stop wonder what Ximians hidden agenda is.

:-)

this is a test (-1, Offtopic)

Carp Flounderson (542291) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698294)

first wide post!<a href=One.time.when.I.was.in.college.I.was.seeing.t his.really.freaky.girl...As.we.were.leaving.my.par ents.house.one.night.she.noticed.a.bicycle.tire.pu mp.in.the.garage...She.got.all.embarrassed.and.sta rted.blushing.really.bad...It.took.me.about.an.hou r.of.harassment.to.get.her.to.finally.explain.what .the.hell.was.up.with.that...It.was.worth.the.wait ...It.turns.out.that.when.she.was.like.16.or.17,.s he.used.to.take.un-inflated.balloons.and.stick.the m.up.her.cooch...Then.shed.take.a.bicycle.tire.pum p.and.inflate.the.balloon.to.see.how.much.she.coul d.take.in...Have.you.guys.ever.seen.all.the.balloo n.fetish.people.around.nowadays...I'll.bet.some.of .those.guys.would.cream.their.pants.to.this.story. ..I.need.a.freaky.girl.again!></A>

Re:this is a test (1)

Chuck Messenger (320443) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698330)

Oh, so _that's_ why my browser's all screwed up! Time to patch the SlashDot code...

This is a duplicate...! (1, Redundant)

shaka (13165) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698347)

Dare Obasanjo, who wrote this (great!) interview, has already had it published here on Slashdot a couple of months ago: lookie here [slashdot.org] !
So, it's already two months old, and it needs to be published on the microserfs' version of Slashdot before we read it!?
Oh well, Dare, it was a good piece anyhow!

I told you... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698431)

Migual has no love for GNU or the value of a good system. All he wants is his Mono...please someone give it him. Maybe he will stop coding

doesn't surprise me that Ximian is in bed with... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698465)

Micro$oft. Ximian Gnome runs so slowly I sometimes mistake it for Windows, and its friendly "uninstall feature"...which essentially means removing all Gnome components and reinstalling Gnome (with all the nice dependency nightmares) seems to have come straight from Redmond. Keep up the good work, guys.

Ximian Gnome vs. KDE (3, Insightful)

ACK!! (10229) | more than 12 years ago | (#2698519)

I have always been torn over the whole KDE vs GNOME thing.

1. I like the look and feel of the GTK, GTK++ widgets better than the QT stuff.

2. KDE despite all the customizing tools available still feels far too Windoze like for my taste. Ximian Gnome especially with the Doorman option to do a CDE style destop is easily more Unix-like for old timers.

On the other hand:

1. KDE is more mature and offers a friendly widget set for programmers. I have heard more than a few programmers say that QT is much easier to deal with than GTK.

2. The maturity factor jumps out at you when you look at the Control Panel for KDE and the wealth of good solid apps available from the QT side of the programming fence.

I still use Ximian because quite frankly I like the way it looks and feels. Sure, I keep updating my system and hate the fact that my gnome splash screeen comes up with gnome-question icons because of a bug (it is in Bugzilla) but I love the way Nautilus lets me use my home directory as my desktop at the push of a button.

Re:Ximian Gnome vs. KDE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698933)

I have always been torn over the whole KDE vs GNOME thing.

1. I like the look and feel of the Qt widgets better than the GTK stuff.

2. GNOME despite all the customizing tools available still feels far too Windoze like for my taste. KDE especially with the KCustomizer option to do a CDE style destop is easily more Unix-like for old timers.

On the other hand:

1. KDE is more mature and offers a friendly widget set for programmers. I have heard more than a few programmers say that QT is much easier to deal with than GTK.

2. The maturity factor jumps out at you when you look at the Control Panel for KDE and the wealth of good solid apps available from the QT side of the programming fence.

I still use KDE because quite frankly I like the way it looks and feels. It's just better. Now, don't ever again post a pro GNOME comment on slashdot or I'll rape ur ass%!@#&^ h0h0h0h0h0

Okay okay, let me get this right (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2698984)

A Microsoft employee get half of GNU supported to hate KDE because it wasn't open enough that start a company that makes a closed source software add on, which now he goes for an interview of a developers forum of a competing standard of free software/ open source which is hosted by the company that all GNU guys hate.... why did you GNOME guys start flame wars when you do worse deeds than software you are flaming? I'm a outside bystander, I'm not use GNU/Linux, UNIX, KDE nor GNOME, which makes me qualified to make this comment (so this isn't made as a flame bait)

Of course we're not surprised Miguel is objective. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2699179)

Objective, right. If it is linux, that is OK, but BSD is EVIL.

Yea, objective, right.

Is GNOME moving to .NET? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2699200)

I've always chosen GNOME as my desktop over KDE because of the GNU licensed GNOME libraries versus QT. But if the next major version of GNOME is based on .NET I will definately move to KDE or look for something better.

I will not use a desktop environment based on Microsoft technology! That why I stopped using Windoze in the first place.
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