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Mid-Air Messaging?

michael posted more than 12 years ago | from the think-of-all-the-spam dept.

Technology 98

boogahsmalls writes: "HP has been working on a nifty little project by the name of Cooltown that allows users to "paint" the air with comments using GPS and mobile phones. A more extensive write up is available over at New Scientist."

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Hey next there will be the function to use bitmaps (1)

davydmadeley (267470) | more than 12 years ago | (#2707989)

Paint bitmaps
Get it?

I'll probably get a Troll for this ;)

The funniest thing about this... (1, Offtopic)

Wakko Warner (324) | more than 12 years ago | (#2707992)

Is that HP's site mentions "will the real Bruce Perens please stand up" - and calls slashdot "www.slashdot.com". Prophetic, maybe?

- A.P.

Re:The funniest thing about this... (0, Offtopic)

linzeal (197905) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708021)

Will the real Bruce Perens please stand up [poppyfields.net] I almost forgot about that. Does bruce even post anymore?

http://slashdot.org/users.pl?op=userinfo&nick=Bruc e+Perens

and I quote
I used to post a lot on Slashdot. These days, it seems to be run by a bunch of whining kids, and I don't take it seriously any longer. (empasis mine) Is he talking about the slashdot crew or just in general?

Slashdot.com (2, Informative)

autopr0n (534291) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708074)

Slashdot.com points to the same machine now, I've seen that 'mistake' a lot lately, but really they aren't technically wrong. And slashdot is a commercial organization. Slashdot's 'historic' domain name may be 'slashdot.org' but 'slashdot.com' points to the right place and is really a better fit, these days.

Re:Slashdot.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2708116)

Slashdot became a dot-com the day it was sold to (what is now) VA Software. In fact, I was a little PO-'d that they kept the .org domain -- it's far from being a non-profit organization any more (as opposed to a for-profit that isn't making any). The editors even had the nerve to criticize NetSol for handing out .org's to for-profit corporations, oblivious to the fact that they now are one.

Background Noise (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2707993)

"Kilroy was here" [3dair.com]

"Tux was here"

Re:Background Noise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2709287)

"Kilroy was here" [3dair.com]

From the article:
An outhouse was built for the exclusive use of Roosevelt, Stalin, and Churchill for the Potsdam Conference.
Only one? No wonder it was called Potsdam.

Oh the posibilities.... (1, Insightful)

eoPh (128750) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708000)

for spammers

think about it. If anyone can link messages to coordinates, don't you think advertisers will be the first to abuse this? hell, they go for everything else that can send messages. though, I wonder if you'll have to pay normal cell charges for these messages...

Re:Oh the posibilities.... (1, Insightful)

seann (307009) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708090)

I hope they have some form of regulation, eg: if I live at 4742 epcot circle, and somebody leaves a message there saying "Your a bunch of nazi killers.", I wouldn't be too fond. What if I gave my kids one of these devices to play around and they came accross that?
Would I be able to remove notes left on my land? (air?)
GPS is x,y,z right? so if I was 1 foot off the ground (give or take a few meters) this wouldn't be affected by somebody flying a plane, so wouldn't I be in coverage of the "you were on my lawn to set this."
but since theres a 3 meter spill rate, I guess I would have no such luck.

Oh well, cool idea, I'd use it, bad spam posibilitys.

So... (2, Funny)

nocent (71113) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708002)

who will be the first to post "all your air are belong to us"?

The kids are going to love this. You walk up to the teacher's desk with a little practical joke in mind. Your mobile phone suddenly bleeps, and you hear a soft whisper in your ear: MAJOR bad mood todaydon't try anything. You think better of the prank and decide to avoid certain detention. All thanks to an invisible message placed in the air above the teacher's desk.

and over the head of your bald teacher, you could write "all you hair are belong to us"

imagine the possibilities! Thanks HP!

Re:So... (1)

djberg96 (133496) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708058)

The messages are not actually kept in the air: they're stored on an Internet page. But that page's Web address is linked to coordinates on the Earth's surface, rather than a person or organisation.

Gives a whole new meaning to "cybersquatting".

hmm.. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2708004)

i think hp probably should be spending their time on more lucrative innovations...

Re:hmm.. (1)

bjwest (14070) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708040)

What time? It probably took one of their engineers about two seconds to come up with this idea. Maybe three, depending on which drug he was on at the time of enlightenment.

Re:hmm.. (1)

po3t (544034) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708077)

nontheless, it would take time to develop this, and get it distributed among the phone service providers, and not to mention promotion...

Where do we draw the line? (5, Insightful)

svwolfpack (411870) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708005)

It's cool to be sure, but it doesn't sound particularly useful. The article cites the example of a store having a sale, and then leaving a message right outside the door. I personally don't need to be hounded by advertisements anymore than I already am, and it's not like I can't read window signs either. More and more technologies are being invented for communication, more information is being generated, but at some point, it does become overkill, and this is very near that point. It would be hell if whenever I walked anywhere, my phone started buzzing because someone had left a message in the most random of places. And you thought spam was bad now... Granted, some uses such as the traffic alert may be useful, but there are far better, less invasive ways for alerting people in such a mannner. Sorry for this rant, but sometimes, with all the millions of bits of information I deal with everyday, I just want to scream!

Re:Where do we draw the line? (1)

po3t (544034) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708012)

especially since the 650% increase in spam in e-mail, this may only heighten the frustration. Sure, this may have some useful purposes. however, it would probably become more of a burden, should it actually catch on

Re:Where do we draw the line? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2708137)

First of all im to lazy to learn proper English and to log in, but not to lazy to leave a message in this space.

I totaly agree with svwolfpack, this technology can leed to total information overload. To solve this, one could classify the information they receive/store, like: personal msg, info msg, alert msg, friends msg, etc. Personally I would love to leave myself all kind of messages, like: Don't enter this bar! You made a big fool of yourself lastnight, rember?, etc.

But i guess it wont take long before, someone figures out how to spam you to dead.

Nice thought though..

Re:Where do we draw the line? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2708192)


Learn to speak american, you stupid nigger. I'll give you some fried chicken and watermelon if you do.

"I no know no anglish but i spek here anywheres so i am be dum niggir on the tv slashdot."

Re:Where do we draw the line? (1)

waitdyahoo.com (468104) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708225)

Just think if you narrow it down to a few feet how useful that could be in a bar..

You could mark if you are interested or not intersted in advances.. It would make it a little more interesting.

Can you imagion when or kids start using there "communicators" in the cars in a a few years. Just point at a good looking girl accross the bar and type can I buy you a drink? No more cold sholders. No more slaps for crude comments.

OK, time to get my brain back on track..

LOL..

Re:Where do we draw the line? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2708512)

Already happening.
In Japan, (and AFAIK now in parts of Europe) some of the mobile electronic gadgets available include "autodater" systems, where you register a checklist of your likes/dislikes/interests etc. with the gadget and they beep+communicate when they're near another person with a similar gadget who's a prospective match. Sounds a bit pathetic, but since they're apparently a bit stuck on introductions and formalities in Japan (never been, just what I've heard), these devices are helping a fair few people get over the first few difficult bits of chatting up someone.

think filtering (4, Interesting)

jonbrewer (11894) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708260)

Any information can be filtered. If we have such a system, we certainly wouldn't have to receive everything all the time.

Just look at Slashdot. I browse at +2, unless I have time and desire to read more. Slashdot certainly has a lot of crap, but I choose to filter is. It would be trivial to implement such a system for HP's Cooltown.

Taking that further, I can see location-based annotation as a pay service. If I were Zagat I could charge people for the service of displaying ratings when they walked in front of a Restaurant. I know I would pay for such a service. I like walking around and finding nice places (As opposed to planning in advance), and I would pay to know beforehand from a reliable source what I should expect from the food.

I can think of many other examples, but I think I'll rush to patent them instead of posting them on /. :-)

Re:think filtering (1)

svwolfpack (411870) | more than 12 years ago | (#2709043)

But filtering in the way that slashdot does means that someone must moderate the posts they see. Slashdot is a relatively easy system in which to set up moderation, and even it is constantly changing the way comments are moderated. So to set up a global moderation system, with millions of comments and notes being posted everyday is pretty crazy. Remember, not everyone can browse at +2, otherwise no one will be able to mod the comments up.

Furthermore, paying for good reviews of restaurants and the like does make sense, but many GPS devices (OnStar for example) already have that technology built in. I still think it's a technology that's been invented for the sake of being invented, rather than having a truely practical purpose.

Re:think filtering (0)

Bemmu (42122) | more than 12 years ago | (#2709437)

About the shop commenting, it's possible even without this thing. Of course this would make it even easier. I live in Finland in a town called Tampere and have implemented a system in which one can post and read comments about shops and other places. The web interface is quite mature and there is a WAP interface nearly ready.

The site is at http://www.kauppahakemisto.com and the experimental WAP interface at http://www.kauppahakemisto.com/wap.php. Please contact me if you think you have any constructive ideas. There are currently 250 shops and most are commented. When location-based services become possible, I will surely look into that.

Bemmu Sepponen | lomise at uta.fi

Think not. (2)

ShieldWolf (20476) | more than 12 years ago | (#2709442)

Not all information can be filtered. Just think DMCA and UCITA. Try and filter out the lame scenes in Episode I or mix your favourtie scenes from the Matrix. Scenario's like this will soon be an order of magnitude more common when WSPs start sending copyrighted material via phones through 2.5 and 3G. Your WSP can simply make deals with partners to send you the occassional spam along with the service that you require for your everyday needs, e.g. email, SMS/MMS messages. This stream of service can be protected by copyright (if they choose) and thus be given DMCA protection. The phone is a closed box that you cannot alter (too much), and any attempt to circumvent the Telco's controls on the phone is a felony charge punishable by up to 5 years in a federal penetentiary and up to a $100,000 charge. Scenarios like this will get more and more common as Telco's try to make money of their customer base, and customers try to control the media they recieve.

-Shieldwolf

Re:Where do we draw the line? (1)

cdgod (132891) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708446)

I see your point. But I believe the tech will have both push-pull technologies.

Imagine shutting off all the push (Forcing your phone to ring for that sale at the nearest store) and just using the pull technologies to get info you want.

In the car, you would use a combination of the two to filter out information which is only relevant to the highway you are driving on, accidents, etc. That way the only pushed information you will receive will be accident related on the current highway. Of course, the UI of such a system will have to be very well refined. There aren't many users I know who know how do create multiple criteria queries while they are driving.

So, by selectively tuning your PDA/cell, you can pull information which is relevant ("What is the special in that restaurant?"), and have the cell ignore the other crap. It also might come down to spam-filtering on the cell... but hey we already live with it now....

In a bar/pub, I always wanted take my iPaq PDA to be able to pull in all the information of the single ladies.... now that would be good use of technology!

Re:Where do we draw the line? (1)

theancient2 (527101) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708884)

Wasn't there an article about this sort of thing a few months ago? It wasn't by a big company -- and they were being threatened with legal action by businesses who didn't like that anyone could leave a message saying something bad about their business.

Just as long as it's not patentable. I mean, even I thought of this one. GPS+Internet gives you all sorts of cool possibilities.

Not a problem! (2)

volpe (58112) | more than 12 years ago | (#2709020)


The article cites the example of a store having a sale, and then leaving a message right outside the door. I personally don't need to be hounded by advertisements anymore than I already am, and it's not like I can't read window signs either


Well, if they used slashcode to paint the comments, you could mod such comments down as redundant.

Stephen King, author, dead at 55 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2708009)


I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Horror/Sci Fi writer Stephen King was found dead in his Maine home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon.

Colostomy Jigsaw Puzzle (-1)

DivineOb (256115) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708022)

Complete lower digestive prolapse
Volvulized intestines-squeezed feces attack
Shit bleeds through perforations
An indication for colostomy experimentation
Colostomization of torso and extremities
New breed of feces bleeding disease

Service Not Available (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2708027)

Perhaps I`ve misread the article but if the phone has to be in contact with some database to receive the message won`t there be occasions when the local base station will run out of lines. For example if a large crowd of people e.g. thousands mass at a particular spot.

Great... (1)

SkewlD00d (314017) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708029)

Great, now we'll need a 3D overlay interface to look at all those posts in real-time. Now you'll be able to watch spam and trolls fly by you on your drive to work! So now the whole world can be /.-ed! =) LOL, do i get to moderate messages posted on my house?

I can see it now... (1)

SonnicJohnny (321966) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708033)

Eiffel Tower: First Pr0st!

Empire State Building: First Post!

... ... ... Perhaps we should think about a preemtive rating system... any ideas?

Re:I can see it now... (1)

TheMidget (512188) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708041)

Eiffel Tower: First Pr0st!
Empire State Building: First Post!

World Trade Center: Last Post!

cest pas bon (1)

Proud Geek (260376) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708159)

Mercy Buckets, mon amie, may say "uniere post" sur la tour Eiffel.

Privacy? (1)

Quixote (154172) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708035)


Yeah, I hate to bring in the "P" word. But with the GPS-enabled cellphone/PDA/whatever continuously checking with a central site to see if there are any "messages" at the current location, how difficult will it be for someone to track people? (hint: cookies or some such mechansm).

This has more prospects of "Big Brother" than anything else from recent past.....

Re:Privacy? (2)

O2n (325189) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708132)

Speaking of the "P" word, the New Scientist article states:
All cellphones made in the US now have to include some form of locator
technology so that they can be tracked by emergency services.


Well, that's definitely news for me (and I don't think I live in a hole, no-no :)
Is this true? How about the export phones? I know that this automatic tracking thing has been discussed in many counties, and deemed illegal (in Germany and Sweden, at least). Does this mean that Motorola has different models to sell in the US and Europe? Doesn't this give Nokia a competitive edge? (the article says "made in the US", not "sold")
Lots of questions...

Re:Privacy? (2)

Alsee (515537) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708204)

All cellphones made in the US now have to include some form of locator
technology so that they can be tracked by emergency services.


Well, that's definitely news for me
Lots of questions...


This tech has been mentioned on /. a few times. Here's [slashdot.org] one of them. It's called E911. a web search on E911 will pull up more info. They passed a law requiring cell phones be able to locate you within 100 meters when you make a 911 call, so the police can respond. Cell phone companies have been having trouble (tech wise) complying. This "feature" has obvious potental for abuse, it all depends on how the manufacturer implements it. The jury is still out on weather the implementations will protect privacy.

-

Just think of the dating possibilities! (2, Interesting)

jpiterak (112951) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708038)

Just think of the dating possibilities! You go into a bar... See an attractive woman, go to strike up conversation, perhaps buy her a drink... Your phone bleeps, displays:

"Don't even think about it creep... My boyfriend's a 270 lb bodybuilder"

... Ah, the pain you've saved yourself!

Besides, there's a lovely lass alone in the corner, with the simple message:

"single"...

Re:Just think of the dating possibilities! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2709182)

Your phone bleeps, displays:

"Don't even think about it creep... My boyfriend's a 270 lb bodybuilder"


While at the same time, hers goes off, with the message, "That's okay, baby, I know tae kwon do. Your place or mine?"

Spammers forging coordinates... (3, Funny)

arsaspe (539022) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708057)

"Ok.I'm almost at the top. Just over this ledge"
*grunt, groan*
"Ahh! WOOHOO! I've reached the summit of Everest!"
*beep beep bip bip bip beep beep*
"Oooh. Looks likes someones left a message here. I wonder what it is? I'm sure I's some inspirational message of congratulations. Lets see..."

'Free HOT College sluts waiting for you!!!...'
'FREE! Univerity Diplomas!'
'You can make $30,000 in under 24 hours!!!!'
'First Post'
'Cowboyneal was here!'
'I am l33t hach0r!!!'

Re:Spammers forging coordinates... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2708865)

"Ahh! WOOHOO! I've reached the summit of Everest!"
*beep beep bip bip bip beep beep*
"Oooh. Looks likes someones left a message here. I wonder what it is? I'm sure I's some inspirational message of congratulations. Lets see..."


Or, if your name is Holden Caulfield, the message is "Drink Coke".

spamtastic (1)

PhuCknuT (1703) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708065)

The spam possibilities for this are frightening.

Laugh now (2)

Exmet Paff Daxx (535601) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708084)

But this is what Quake is to Windows - the killer app that softens you up to a dangerous technology. Personally, the idea that my cell phone, and therefore my cell phone company, can log my path through life 24 hours a day and sell it to the highest bidder as part of my "Customer Revenue Package" freaks the hell out of me. The idea of 22 year old overpaid consultants from Andersen sitting around a table discussing who would want to buy my whereabouts even more.

Thanks but no thanks.

I'm gonna place one in the air above my PC... (2)

Nathdot (465087) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708085)

... RTFM!

:)

CoolTown is not this... (2, Interesting)

John_McKee (100458) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708093)

CoolTown is an HP program out of HP Labs., A cross between R&D/Think Tank, much like Xerox PARC, Its goal is to find way to integrate technology into our every day lives, as shown by this project. To quote HP:

Cooltown is our vision of a technology future where people, places, and things are first class citizens of the connected world, wired and wireless - a place where e-services meet the physical world, where humans are mobile, devices and services are federated and context-aware, and everything has a web presence.

The cooltown vision of a responsive world of mobile services requires clear, creative thinking about technology. For several years, HP Labs has been working at the intersection of nomadicity, appliances, networking, and the web. Our model for this research is one of open collaboration and partnership with others who share similar goals. Creating a cooltown ecosystem requires vision and technology, but above all else it takes a community of like-minded people who believe in open participation, investing in the web, and creating real solutions that add value to people's lives. Our goal is to help bring that community together, to openly share ideas and implementations, and to make a real contribution to the web and to the world.


This is just one of many projects that have come, and will come out of this program. Hopefully HP will do something more useful with them then Xerox did with PARC, but I digress...

Virtual graffiti. (2)

Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708107)

So we're talking a virtual graffiti service, which lets people "tag" sites and deface structures without actually defacing them. People don't have to see it unless they deliberately try.

But why should it be limited to ONE set of graffiti? Unless somebody patents it, of course.

If there IS only one service the owners of the REAL site may have a property-rights claim against any posters to coordinates that fall on their property, and perhaps even the service itself (especially if it doesn't let them "paint out" anything on their location and/or if someone posts something derogatory).

Ask me if I give a shit. (-1, Offtopic)

Blind Demiurge Ialda (540729) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708111)

Frankly, I never saw the point of cell phones. If I need to call somebody, I'll damned well pull into a gas station and use a pay phone. If somebody needs to reach me, they can damned well use email.

Re:Ask me if I give a shit. (1)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 12 years ago | (#2709003)

Tell that to the woman that was in the basement of the WTC who called for help, and was subsequently rescued. She would have died otherwise.

I guess you're over-simplified logic has a flaw in it.

Re:Ask me if I give a shit. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2709197)

Hi.

"you're" is "you are", not "your".

Re:Ask me if I give a shit. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2709268)

Tell that to the woman that was in the basement of the WTC who called for help, and was subsequently rescued. She would have died otherwise.

What megacorp do you work for? One example of a benefit (to someone else) and you're allowed to justify anything which benefits you. Conversely, one bit of harm (to you) from anything and you get to condemn its use by anyone else. What if she'd been saved by a serial rapist. Should they all be welcomed into your home?

Re:Ask me if I give a shit. (1)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 12 years ago | (#2710092)

Wow, talk about over-reactive. I give an example of somebody getting their life saved, and then you twist it with an improbable worst case scenario. (like a rapist is going to use cell phone tracing technology to find a victim)

As far as 'justifying' something that benefits me, I don't see why you feel I need to justify it. I don't need to justify it to you. I made a decision to own a cell phone, and that's final. I didn't ask for your approval.

I just felt that somebody saying "I won't get a cell phone because I can get to a pay phone..." was over-simplified. So I pointed out a scenario where you wouldn't be able to get to a pay phone. Obviously I'm not the only one who feels this way because lots, and I do mean LOTS of people have cell phones. Not to mention that market is growing.

Obviously cell phones add something to people's lives, despite being able to reach phones easily.

Getting back on topic, what HP is hoping to do with their CoolTown technology sounds kind of interesting. I like the idea of paramedics being notified if I have a heart attack. You would too if you're at risk. If you have the attitude that you don't like a new technology because [insert silly over-reactive reason here], then I hope you enjoy your time in the stone age.

Re:Ask me if I give a shit. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2709310)

Frankly, I never saw the point of cell phones. If I need to call somebody, I'll damned well pull into a gas station and use a pay phone. If somebody needs to reach me, they can damned well use email.

No problem -- keep it for when _you_ need it and leave it turned off otherwise. Of course the day will come when you'll be DMCAed over the head by the advertisers for "circumventing" if you turn it off.

Great, now people will be standing ... (2)

3seas (184403) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708123)

Now people will be standing around waiting to get the message [osearth.com]

Or here [osearth.com] are some messages to strategicly place.

and these [osearth.com] over selective locations.

Not only good for spammers but activists

You know it's gonna happen... (2)

Fesh (112953) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708126)

It's only a matter of time until some business-owner sues to remove a tag that reflects badly on their business, even if it is the truth. Imagine seeing something like "This restraunt failed Health Department inspection in 1998!" on your way in the door of an establishment. Any organization whose image may be tarnished by a tag at a certain location will want a say in what tags are allowed in their "airspace", and will scream bloody murder if people post negative comments. We've already seen it with web pages that users have to put some actual activity into reaching. It's not going to be long after this goes mainstream that somebody tries to criminalize "digital graffiti".

What a wonderful world we live in. *sigh*

Just What We Need... (4, Insightful)

drb (61308) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708156)

I see a few problems that would be hard to overcome... First, say (as stated in the article) someone left a message in mid-air informing people of a car accident on the expressway. Suppose the average speed on that that road is 75 km/h. In addition, the polling frequency, the protocol, and lags in the devices themselves delay the delivery of the message...

This all suggests that messages must be tagged with a radius as well as a location. On the highway at high speeds, one might need a 1-2 km radius to ensure that the message is delivered before one encounters the accident. On the other hand, one only needs a 1m radius to leave graffiti over the crapper at your local McDonalds.

Now what happens if the highway passes through a city (like Boston's 93) with lots of McDonalds... Will I walk into the men's room and get:

"Accident on 93 North - use left lane...."
"Here I sit all broken-hearted...."

If the restaurant falls within the message radius, I will. Now let's go for the low hanging fruit - the obvious fix-all. Let's tag the messages with a location, a radius, and a speed! It's GPS - calculating speed is easy, right? If I'm walking into McDonalds at 4km/h, I won't get the message intended for cars at 75km/h.

Now not only do people know where I am, but how fast I am going. Cross-reference with a map, and they know what road I'm on. Should I expect to see speeding tickets enclosed in my mobile phone bill? Will Mapquest email me:

"You know Dan, there's a much better route to work..."

Will my local health club text my mobile:

"We noticed you go to McDonalds quite frequently and you're not walking too fast these days..."

Privacy? What privacy?

I think.. (0)

cockeater (542284) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708222)

I think the problem would be more with 50-100 speeding motorists reaching for their cell phone at the same moment, than with you picking up the occasional stray message. The privacy thing scares me too, I wonder if the cell phone industry will take a hit from this..

Re:Just What We Need... (1)

nexex (256614) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708263)

Well, if there is an accident on the freeway like that, I would bet that the cars would be moving close to 4km/h not to long after that :)

Re:Just What We Need... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2708302)

From the article, it sounds like your phone actively queries a web page...why not have a spatial forum standard:

http://mytraffic.com/forums/trafficreport.php?x= 14 34.23434&y=23.3434&z=3943
returns:
<item id=93 title='highway x accident at exit 300'/>
<itme id=94 title='highway x slow traffic at exit 205'/>

http://myrestaurants.com/forums/foodquality.php? x= 1434.23434&y=23.3434&z=3943
returns:
<item id=1093 title='bathroom sucks'/>
<item id=1098 title='excellent chicken quesadillas'/>

and even have details:
http://myrestaurants.com/forums/foodquality.php? &a mp;item=1093
<item id=1093 title='bathroom sucks' body='I can\'t stand language tapes in the bathroom!' author='snob_boy'/>

That way you could choose to query traffic reports, restaurants or whatever else you choose...

Just a tad melodramatic... (2)

Myriad (89793) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708390)

Now not only do people know where I am, but how fast I am going. Cross-reference with a map, and they know what road I'm on.

I don't need to know your velocity to know what road you're on! Think about it... you're on Highway X and you fire off a message. Well, guess what, you can only be traveling North/South or East/West. I don't know to many highways that give you more options than that. Cross reference your location with a map an I know what road you're on. Fire more than one message while traveling the same highway and I know exactly which direction you are headed.

Besides, once I know your location it's all a rather accedemic. I could simply follow you in a helicopter if I want to. To extreme? A couple of friends in cars with FRS radios should do nicely. Not to mention you can be tracked quite effectively with just your cellphone being turned on - never mind this GPS stuff. It's called triangulation.

Sign zone no skateboarding (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2708160)

Yah great, another waste of good ollie space.

Horrible Idea (2)

cybercuzco (100904) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708170)

You think its bad now when people call asking you to switch phone providers. If this ever catches on, ad companies will be paying big bucks for certain volumes of air. Entire cities could be covered so that as you wak down the street your cell phone and pager are beeping incessantly as you move from ad volume to ad volume. This is the telephone equivalent of spam, and they dont even need to know your phone number to do it.

It's a brilliant idea... (1)

SoupIsGoodFood_42 (521389) | more than 12 years ago | (#2709635)

Sorry, but it's actually a fucken brilliant idea. Just because you can't think up a blindingly obvious solution to a potential problem. It doesn't make it a horrible idea.

Logically. It will evolve to have different services and protocols, just like the net does now. There could be public messages, private messages (kinda like e-mail or something) etc. Different companies could set-up message services for different uses etc. Some people might even make a system like usernet, they could have a 'good places to eat at' group that you could use/subscribe to. I'm sure there are 1000's of other ideas that this could be used for.

You really need to try and think more lateraly.

Heres my message: (-1, Redundant)

t_allardyce (48447) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708203)

About 800 feet above the remains of the world trade center: "Obstruction cleared, this area now safe to fly through." and then "Why not visit McDonalds? turn left heading 225, proceed 2nm and descend to zero-thousend feet (0ft)." lol :)

And at the pentagon: "All your planes are belong to us" and "Goto the whitehouse instead"

I can see usefulness for this in war too, seeing as the American B-52's can't aim to save their lives why not put "Bomb here" signs at various locations.

This is way cool (4, Funny)

Apreche (239272) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708211)

Wow, just apply this same technology to other areas and you've got a winner. Let's say I've got a wearable computer, monitor inside sunglasses, everything else in a Palm sized thing in my pocket. My eyes are the mouse. Now I walk down the street in New York. I pass a restaurant. When I look at the restaurant I see a blinking light on it, it's really a link to a web page, which then appears on screen. Now get this. I walk into Times Square. I look up at the buildings and see ads. Each ad has a link just like the restaurant. Let's take this a step further.

I take my glasses off. I look at a building with nothing on it's sides. I put glasses on, all of a sudden there's a large ad covering the side of the building.

We've all seen movies where there are very large holographic advertisements all over a city. We can't seem to do that in the physical world yet, so put it in the digital world.

I just had an even better idea. I place one of these things on myself. So when you look at me through your glasses you see someone else. Take them off and see the real me. You can also go to my web page by "clicking" my link.

The real bonus with this is that any time you don't want to see the stuff, just take your wearable pc off. And you no longer have to sit at home in front of a computer to browse the web. You get up and go outside. Geeks will be going outdoors on a more than regular basis.

Here we go. The Killer App. Walk down the street. Spot a hot girl. Check if she's single or not, check to see what you have in common. Search a database for the best pick up line. Get constant advice through IRC on what to say and what to do.

A database of Audio Visual pages and their real world location on GPS. Visualized through wirelessly net connected wearable computers. You would see the net as a holographic overlay on the real world. It's now possible.

christ (0)

cockeater (542284) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708228)

Stop watching the matrix and go get laid, now!

Re:This is way cool (1)

ksheff (2406) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708255)

Spot a hot girl. Check if she's single or not, check to see what you have in common. Search a database for the best pick up line. Get constant advice through IRC on what to say and what to do.

And by the time you do all that, she's either gone or already talking to someone who just approached her the plain old fashioned way.

Re:This is way cool (1)

DCMonkey (615) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708793)

Sounds like They Live [imdb.com] in reverse.

Re:This is way cool (2)

isorox (205688) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708997)

Geeks will be going outdoors on a more than regular basis.

Fantasy world....

Remember "Roxanne" (2)

volpe (58112) | more than 12 years ago | (#2709048)


Search a database for the best pick up line. Get constant advice through IRC on what to say and what to do.


Yeah and if the network goes down at an inopportune moment, you'll be saying things to her like, "Your breasts are like pillows. Can I fluff your pillows?"

Re:This is way cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2709289)

Here we go. The Killer App. Walk down the street. Spot a hot girl.

Heh, until you take off your glasses and realize that that "hot girl" is a 50-year old man.

Re:This is way cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2710375)

Search a database for the best pick up line.

Forget it dude. That just ain't gonna work out for you.

everything else in a Palm sized thing in my pocket

That's what's gonna work out for you.

Re:This is way cool (2)

Anthony Boyd (242971) | more than 12 years ago | (#2710494)

Walk down the street. Spot a hot girl. Check if she's single or not, check to see what you have in common. Search a database for the best pick up line. Get constant advice through IRC on what to say and what to do.

Yeah, because we all know that people who hang out on IRC have tons of experience with women.

Wasn't this tried in cyberspace? (2)

chipuni (156625) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708217)

Forgive my bad memory, but wasn't there a company about two years ago that allowed you to add comments to any Web site... and to read all of the comments left on that site?

And weren't the -vast- majority of the comments left everywhere, essentially, graffiti? Not spam (ie: trying to be commercial), but the equivalent of the goat-sex and penis-birds of Slashdot?

If they do implement this system, I strongly hope that they use a moderation schema like the ones of Slashdot or Kuro5hin...

Hahaha... (1)

The Great Wakka (319389) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708229)

So it'll be like USENET, with all the retarded advertisemnets and the shouting, raging morons? Except in the air? This technology would have to either be moderated or you'd have to buy rights, because this has such a massive potential for abuse:

Washington Monument: h3y! t415 100ks 11K3 a D1C|! hururur!

Some post-office: got anthrax?

The tastless will be brought out of USENET and /. and onto our fields and mountains and monuments. I will never, ever get a reader for this technology.

Re:Hahaha... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2709190)

excuse me, but "4" in l33t is "a", not "h". you kids and your piss-poor spelling.

You get what you pay for (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2708232)

So far a lot of the posts have been griping that this will just be used to put text message ads all over the city. It probably will. Like a lot of technology, it's yet another cool little toy for the masses that will be perverted by commercial interests. And no matter how much people gripe about it, it won't change the fact that this wouldn't be possible without their active participation.

I've got a cell phone. It doesn't do text messages, it's a phone. It doesn't read email, it's a phone. It doesn't even do any of those annoying shrill little songs that people seem to like, it rings.

So when everybody's complaining about getting spammed on their cell phones while walking down the street, I won't even notice. Why? Because I didn't buy something because it had a load of 'cool' features on it, I bought it because it did what I needed it to do. And I wanted to use my cell phone as a *gasp* phone.

Marketers aren't stupid. Evil yes, but not stupid. Just because a technology wasn't designed for advertising doesn't mean they won't use it that way. The solution is to only use what you need to use, and refuse to pay for the rest.

Let me get this straight... (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2708233)

The worst terrorist attack in recorded history occurred in September, followed by a deadly and bloody WAR against the Islamic faith (against the holiest of Muslim clerics and scholars, the beloved Taliban leaders of the Afghanistan people) and now we're struggling to bring order to Afghanistan with the establishment of an interim government, as well as tightening the noose over the Al Qaeda group (a terrorist cell with possibly the coolest name around) in the mountains of Tora Bora, and you people have the gall to be discussing GPS-based wireless information services???? My *god*, people, GET SOME PRIORITIES!

The bodies of the thousands of innocent civilians who died (and will die) in these unprecedented events could give a good god damn about an incredible abuse of IPv4 (unless these people have done the right thing and are using IPv6 in these devices), your childish Lego models, your nerf toy guns and whining about the lack of a "fun" workplace, your Everquest/Diablo/D&D fixation, the latest Cowboy Bebop rerun, or any of the other ways you are "getting on with your life" (here's a hint: watching Cowboy Bebop in your jammies and eating a bowl of Shreddies is *not* "getting on with your life"). The souls of the victims are watching in horror as you people squander your finite, precious time on this earth playing video games!

You people disgust me!

Re:Let me get this straight... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2708724)

FUCK OFF.

Re:Let me get this straight... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2708918)

But all the problems cited are somehow being addressed by the time you spend browsing slashdot??? Damn, you're great!

They Dropped their Calc division for this?!?! (0)

rblancarte (213492) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708240)

Like I have read in some of the posts here, this is a cute technology, but honestly, what does this do for us? How is this really useful?

I get that it could work on some level as augmented reality - you walk into your bosses office and when you do, the adjenda for the meeting you are about to hear is spoken to you via your phone. But this seems to be more of a toy than anything. I don't see this being part of everyday life.

IMHO, HP would be better served in making the next great calculator. They really changed the calculator market with their 48 series calculators, why not keep that up?

RonB

That's gonna rule!!! (1)

swaic (541592) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708247)


Incoming message: Hey dude, you're standing in shit.

Having worked with wireless location determination (3, Informative)

f00zbll (526151) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708259)

The things mentioned in the article aren't new. Back in 99 when WAP was the hot thing, a lot of companies were already throwing out those ideas. Most of the them didn't understand it, nor did the carriers for political reasons.

A corporation that owns most of the malls in America has already considered deploying Mobile switching centers (MSC) in malls to get highly accurate location determination. They already have a shopping service during the holidays where a person can make a list of the items and give it to a mall staff. The staff person then goes to all the stores, stands in line, buys the item, wraps it and then bags it.

An extension to that service would be to use your cell phone. When you enter the mall, it sends you a WAP or SMS message asking you if you want to turn on shopping service. You go to the stores, and use your phone to scan the barcode. When you're done, you download the list to service and a starving college student stands in line for you. Of course there are a lot more ideas for commerce applications, but that is just one of them.

Wireless data by itself is worthless and a nitch service. Once you have accurate GPS with transparent data exchange, the service becomes a necessity.

On the fun side of things, there are tremendous opportunity to use GPS and wireless data for gaming purposes. Let your imagination run wild and you will see that things like RPG, Real-Time Strategy and Turn-Based Strategy games can move into a whole new world. Nokia already has a division for wireless games and there are several companies in Europe developing wireless games. Some people have even suggested using wireless data and GPS for dating services.

Re:Having worked with wireless location determinat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2709511)

An extension to that service would be to use your cell phone. When you enter the mall, it sends you a WAP or SMS message asking you if you want to turn on shopping service. You go to the stores, and use your phone to scan the barcode. When you're done, you download the list to service and a starving college student stands in line for you. Of course there are a lot more ideas for commerce applications, but that is just one of them.

Or, we could take it even further, and have the act of scanning the barcode automatically charge your credit card, thus avoiding the cash register all together. (some sort of anti-theft device would have to be concieved, of course!)

Geocaching Hints (2)

Technician (215283) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708280)

This could be a great way to give geocaching hints. When you get close, you could get a message "look in the roots of the tree with the broken top". Since it would have a GPS and phone, the geocaching easly could be combined. For info on geocaching, visit www.geocaching.com. How close are you to a hidden cache?

We will have as much privacy as we can pay for... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2708408)

The same as justice and health. That we will be able to pay a service to screen for us has all ready been mentioned in the article. And with the way the laws are changing we will HAVE TO HAVE our GPS cell phones going 24 hours a day, after all - we have nothing to hide. If we can't pay we will be fodder. If I had my way I would turn this upside down. The less power a person had the more anonymous they would be, the more power they had the less anonymous they would be. But the powerfull make the rules - so you can bet your ass that they will be able to afford and legislate their own privacy. What, the people making the laws are supposed to represent you? Make them, or bleet like happy livestock.

This stuff makes me so angry I could just rant. Maybe next time I will.

Re:We will have as much privacy as we can pay for. (1)

NirishChas (543913) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708420)

Given enough power and time, everything corrupts.

Sounds like you are looking at a far wider picture to which a Communist / Anarchist approach would be the solution.

This sounds like an idea that will get mixed responses, lets wait and see how well this "floating message" will do.

We could get rid of all unsightly road signs! (2)

zulux (112259) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708495)

Imagine this technology combined with a car computer - as you are driving, the dashboard could tell you the speed limit without a big ugly sign being at the side of the road. You car could tell you where is ok to park, and when it's illegal without painting the curb all sorts of ugly colors.

Big Brother Locations (1)

airos4 (82561) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708506)

I sincerely hope there will be a way to turn OFF the portion of the program that transmits your coordinates at any given time. Standard GPS receivers don't transmit anything, so you get the useful information without having to give up your location. But the day when my cell phone becomes a stool pigeon to my every activity is the day I go back to two cans and a string. Beyond just government things (which are bad enough) could you imagine, say, some criminals learning your code and finding out how close you are to your car or house so they can rob you? How about the stalker guy/girl being able to track your daily movements? How about your boss finding out that you go hang out at strip clubs on your lunch break? Any of these things COULD happen if you have the GPS receiver connected to a transmitter like they describe.

"Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me."

link it to gaming! (1)

Sarin (112173) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708578)

What if you linked this tech to somesort of rpg game, perhaps you could place virtual items at certain locations. And people would be slaying virtual monsters at the park. You could pickup cool items, which are comfortably located in an attraction park (of course they'd have pay a whole lot of money to the game company in order to get those items there)

Re:link it to gaming! (2)

Usquebaugh (230216) | more than 12 years ago | (#2709015)

This idea intrigues the hell out of me. This could be the start of a whole new era in gaming. A whole plethora of games could be developed around this tech, from simple 'tag' to very involved RPG scenarios.

The VRML version (2)

Animats (122034) | more than 12 years ago | (#2708954)

Something like this was suggested back when VRML was popular. The idea was to mirror the physical world in VRML, but with more advertising. Didn't sell.

That's nothing (2)

glowingspleen (180814) | more than 12 years ago | (#2709017)

That's nothing. You should see my onboard handheld snow-writing device.

Mid-Air Tacosnotting? (-1)

The WIPO Troll (267426) | more than 12 years ago | (#2709388)

By The WIPO Troll [slashdot.org] , $Revision: 1.13 $

Why have I been receiving emails from some guy called "CmdrTaco," in which he seems to be speaking in some kind of code language?

You have been receiving email from a certain
Robert "CmdrTaco" Malda [cmdrtaco.net] , owner of the popular technology website Slashdot [slashdot.org] . Actually, it's not a very "popular" site in the common sense of the word; the site is rife with pimply, antisocial geeks, zit-faced nerds, dirty GNU hippies [yahoo.com] and communists, and other societal rejects. It's also home to the world's most infamous pædophile ring, the "Slashdot crew."
Whenever CmdrTaco gets bored (and who wouldn't, running a site like
Slashdot all day), he roams through the Slashdot database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy engaging in homosexual orgies with him. How he determines this is anyone's guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, or a nick with the letter P or E in it, you're in trouble.
And this time, he found
you. Lucky you.
CmdrTaco's code language is relatively easy to decipher. He prefers to speak in thinly-veiled sexual innuendo to evade the watchful (but relatively stupid) eye of Slashdot's parent corporation,
VA Software [yahoo.com] . CmdrTaco's "Commander" is, of course, his penis -- a small, withered little thing that lives in his pants and only comes out in the presence of other male geeks or at the beck and call of CmdrTaco's own lubed-up right hand. His "Taco bells" are the shriveled testicles that droop beneath his Commander, and his "Taco sauce" is his thick, gooey semen. It should be more than obvious to you now what he means if he asked you to "ring his Taco bells" or "taste his gourmet Taco sauce."
Lastly, there is the practice he refers to as "Taco-snotting" and the more revolting "circle-snot."

Good Lord. What is "Taco-snotting?"

"Taco-snotting" is the term used by CmdrTaco to refer to an act of fellating a homosexual man (or unwilling heterosexual; CmdrTaco is rumoured to prefer rape), then blowing the semen out his nose onto the face and body of his partner or victim. Naturally, a long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is
left on CmdrTaco's face [yahoo.com] , dribbling out of his nose and down his cheek: hence the term, "Taco-snotting."
A "circle-snot" is a Taco-snotting
circle-jerk, another practice common among the Slashdot crew. CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel [aol.com] , and Homos get together and snot each other with their gooey, sticky cum -- spooging their jizz-snot all over each other's faces and pasty, white bodies, until they're covered head to toe with their own and each other's man juice. This vile ritual can go on for hours. For the homosexual penetration that follows this lengthy foreplay, Roblowme is usually there to provide plenty of anal lubricant; he owns a limo service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease ready to go.
To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie will usually join in, dressed in tight leather mock-S.S. uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The whole group then proceeds to snot each other's spunk and whip each other's pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pale, white geek bodies are exhausted and soaked in stinking sweat from the hours of passionate, homosexual revelry.

Ewwwwww. So, can I stop receiving these emails?

Hopefully.
You most likely forgot to uncheck the "Willing to Taco-snot" checkbox in your account preferences. CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad, and he's probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube. There's no escaping a geek in heat, so it's probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTaco's sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on
Messages, and uncheck the box next to "Willing to Taco-snot." Maybe he'll ignore you. Probably not.

I can't stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?

If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, he
might leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge... oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot you, you will most likely end up tied up in his basement to be used as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a circle-snot).

Have you ever been Taco-Snotted?

Unfortunately, yes. I first met CmdrTaco at an
Open Source Convention [yahoo.com] . He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake and some "gourmet Tacos," but when I got there, he jumped me and tied me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his "Commander" out of his pants, Mr. Taco made me suck the withered thing six times. He then performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm after sweaty, mind-numbing orgasm... then he snotted my own milky-white jizz back onto my face, into my mouth, then again on my exposed belly.
CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, "Open Sauce" -- man sauce) buddies over to continue the twisted snotfest. Linux Torvalds
raped my ass [yahoo.com] with his "monolithic kernel [yahoo.com] ," and Anal Cox used his "network stack" in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice in my defenseless body. Michael was there in his leather Nazi uniform, caning my ass with a bamboo pole and ranting about "all those Censorware freaks out to get him."
How did you finally escape, you ask? After about 16 hours of countless homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my restrained body, they all finally went to sleep on top of me, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, covered in bubbly, translucent jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with half a dozen fat, pasty-white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my flesh worked wonderfully as a lubricant; I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door. I'm just glad I survived the ordeal. These geeks had a lot of built-up spunk in their wads -- I could've easily been drowned!

That's horrible. Does "Taco-snotting" have anything to do with CmdrTaco's "special taco"?

No, that's a different disgusting perversion CmdrTaco indulges himself in. CmdrTaco is usually not satisfied with merely snotting your own jizz back onto your face, he most often enjoys involving his own bodily fluids in his twisted games.
WeatherTroll [slashdot.org] has spent some time trying to educate the Slashdot readership about this vile practice (emphasis added):
You may be wondering what CmdrTaco's "special taco" is. You will be wishing that you hadn't been wondering after you finish reading this post. To make his "special taco", CmdrTaco takes a taco shell and
shits on it. He then adds lettuce, jacks off on the taco, and adds a compound to make the person who eats the taco unconscious. Of course, the compound does not make the person unconscious until the taco is fully eaten. Thus CmdrTaco force-feeds the taco to the unsuspecting victim.
After the victim is unconscious, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTaco's nefarious sexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victim's ass, Taco-snotting, and getting Jon Katz involved.
Completely different, yet no less revolting. It should be clear to you now that CmdrTaco is a very, very sick individual, as are most of the Slashdot editors.

Does Jon Katz get involved in any of this? I thought he was a pædophile, not a homosexual.

Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual pædophile. He's also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zophile. Jon Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesn't involve himself in circle-snots. Mr. Katz usually engages in a game called "
Katz juicy-douching [aol.com] " with his harem of little-boy slaves: a vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boy's urine (forced out of them with a pair of pliers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then squirting and slathering the goo all over himself, and the little boy's chained-up and naked bodies. If he's in the mood, he will sometimes skip refilling the enema bag and just squirt it from his ass [yahoo.com] onto his boys. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pliers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them for the rest of their lives.
As I already said, Mr. Katz is
also a zophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys aren't enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goat's anus [yahoo.com] . He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goat's small, bean-like turds.

...Are you getting hard writing this?

Why, yes. :) Join me in a WIPO-snot?

No, thanks. I'm already CmdrTaco's boi toi.

________________________________________
RECENT READER COMMENTS

Once comments have been archived by Slashdot, they're removed from the Official Taco-Snotting FAQ. However much I would like to paste 200k crapfloods into Slashdot, my browser is a piece of shit and won't let me!

  1. Re:Taco-Powered Christmas Snot (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.15 7:05 (#2707493 [slashdot.org] )

    Has this been submitted to linuxdoc.org yet?

  2. Re:Bye bye Windows! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.15 5:12 (#2707245 [slashdot.org] )

    That may be true, but have you made love to a wombat today?

  3. Re:That's my department, boy! (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward (actually afree87 [slashdot.org] ) on 2001.12.15 2:51 (#2706921 [slashdot.org] )

    Wow, WipoTroll, you really know how to snot! And you can scramble Slashdot's HTML, too! I love boys who do that! Come over to my place sometime!

  4. Re:CmdrTaco BANNED FOR LIFE from Taco Bell!!!!!! (Score:-1)
    by WeatherTroll [slashdot.org] on 2001.12.15 2:48 (#2706907 [slashdot.org] )

    CmdrTaco only goes to Taco Bell to get their hot sauce, and to solicit hot sauce enemas from underage male employees. He makes his own tacos.

  5. Re:Snottle OSnotX, BSnotD, and Snottan Snottard (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward (actually afree87 [slashdot.org] ) on 2001.12.15 2:47 (#2706900 [slashdot.org] )

    We love you, WipoTroll! We want you to snot us, WipoTroll!

  6. Re:Bye bye Windows! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.15 1:35 (#2706675 [slashdot.org] )

    I want some Taco-snot! Where can I get some?

  7. Re:Bye bye Windows! (Score:-1)
    by JonKatz on [slashdot.org] on 2001.12.15 0:29 (#2706495 [slashdot.org] )

    Please, please, please Taco-snot me. I know I would love it almost as much as fucking young boys. Pleadingly, JonKatz

  8. Important Information For Slashdot Users (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.14 3:09 (#2702660 [slashdot.org] )

    It has recently come to my attention that the entire Slashdot crew engage in homosexual activities. CmdrTaco [cmdrtaco.net] is one such person, and has dedicated his life to spreading the ideals of Taco-Snotting while enjoying the benefits of it. For further information on Taco-Snotting please refer to George WIPO Bush's Taco-Snotting FAQ which can be easily found by searching for the Slashdot journal of George WIPO Bush or by looking in the comments of Slashdot articles (Usually modded -1).

    It has also come to my attention that CmdrTaco [cmdrtaco.net] has other interests besides homosexuality (Believe it or not). One such interest includes a budding music career with a song titled "Gaping Anus". The details are sketchy on this topic but I [geocities.com] do know that besides the lead vocals of CmdrTaco [cmdrtaco.net] , it includes Timothy and CowboyNeal (Also members of the Slashdot crew). There has been no release date set for this album or which record label it will be produced under. I [geocities.com] believe CmdrTaco [cmdrtaco.net] is planning to set up his own label, Taco-Snotting Records [riaa.com] , with the intention of releasing [amazon.com] the song on a cd-single with various remixes as soon as possible (To catch the current popularity of the Taco-Snotting fad). On a side note, I [geocities.com] would not believe this fad will ever wear out (like a Snotted-out-geek); I [geocities.com] am sorry to say Taco-Snotting is here to stay :-(. Various remixes of Gaping Anus will include: "Extra Jizz", "Snot Me Baby One More Time", "www.Goatse.cx" [goatse.cx] , and "Once You Taco-Snot, You Can't Stop". I [geocities.com] am sure many, many, more are sure to come. I [geocities.com] predict this album will be a very hot seller this holiday season, especially with in or out of closet homosexuals, and with those who have no self-respect (Readers of Slashdot).

    Through a good, non-homosexual friend of mine, I [geocities.com] have recieved a copy of the lyrics to the Gaping Anus musical composition. Included after the lyrics is a very speical tribute written by yours truely. Perhaps CmdrTaco [cmdrtaco.net] will ask me to provide the vocals. Please feel free to read the lyrics and post your comments and disgust. E-mail CmdrTaco with this disgust also.

    BTW, please do not reply with the intention of flaming me because the lyrics are a rip-off of Insane Clown Posse's [insaneclownposse.com] "Slim Anus" [realjuggalos.com] . For more information on ICP and Slim Anus refer here [planet-eminem.com] and here [mp3mtv.com] . CmdrTaco [cmdrtaco.net] is the author of this fine musical work and not me [geocities.com] . So, it is obviously he who has ripped off ICP and not me [geocities.com] . Thank you.

    Read the rest of this shit... [slashdot.org]

  9. Re:Snotback: Snotto, Snotz, Snottion (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.14 2:44 (#2702581 [slashdot.org] )

    you know, every time i read this i want to punch you more and more. the taco snotting thing is old, lame, boring, and over done. it never was remotely funny or good though. it sounds like a 10th grader wrote it too. so please, go play in traffic or shut the fuck up so real trolls can post.

  10. Re:Italics are yummy! (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Super Mario Troll [slashdot.org] on 2001.12.14 2:33 (#2702535 [slashdot.org] )

    Keep up the good work! Educate the masses to the dangers of Taco-Snotting!

    It's a me, the Super Mario Troll!
    Would you like to see my gaping troll anus [goatse.cx]
  11. Re:Italics are yummy! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.14 1:41 (#2702370 [slashdot.org] )

    WIPO - Man you trolls are shit compared to Egg Trolls troll's. Egg Man is just so much more original.

  12. Re:The WIPO Troll Announces Portable Snotbox (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.07 7:58 (#2669658 [slashdot.org] )

    That leaky sound you hear is CmdrTaco pissing himself after seeing this.

    Slashdot trolling just got a whole lot easier...

    http://www.geocities.com/frostpist/

    Spread the word!

  13. Re:The WIPO Troll Announces Portable Snotbox (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.07 5:48 (#2669422 [slashdot.org] )

    Q: Is CmdrTaco gay?

    A: He Mos' certainly is!

  14. Re:The WIPO Troll Announces Portable Snotbox (Score:-1)
    by GaylordFucker [slashdot.org] on 2001.12.07 5:39 (#2669394 [slashdot.org] )

    not to mention... The WIPO Troll used himself as a test subject to try out the portable snotbox... i await your results and hope your product gets approved...

    Regards,
    Gay

    Get that rats nest off your head, you numbskull -- Wesley Willis

  15. Re:Portable Snotcube! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.07 3:58 (#2669117 [slashdot.org] )

    stfu. no one really cares about your lame little "troll". make some new material (not that anything you've ever said is worth a damn..)

  16. Re:Yum yum taco-snotting! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.02 22:15 (#2644499 [slashdot.org] )

    Dear SLASH crew - this post makes it clear why you need to add a new category - "tell it like it is (+1)"

  17. This is getting old (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.02 20:14 (#2644227 [slashdot.org] )

    Hey dicksuck, why don't you come up with new troll material? Everyone has seen the tacosnotting 100 times already. Fuckwit. Assholage. Gay. Lick my anal nectar.

  18. Fucking hilarious too bad it didnt get a 5:Funny (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.02 19:01 (#2644105 [slashdot.org] )

    this is good shit man

  19. Re:Taco-snotting@Home! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Dark_Cobra87 [slashdot.org] on 2001.12.01 23:03 (#2642180 [slashdot.org] )

    Oops, forgot to check that Taco-snot option...

  20. Re:Fuck Linux! Fuck him hard! (Score:-1)
    by Fecal Troll Matter [slashdot.org] on 2001.12.01 20:55 (#2641791 [slashdot.org] )

    Mmmmmmm, Taco Sauce... [galeon.com]

    Sig (appended to the end of comments you post, 120 chars)

  21. Look (Score:-1)
    by ArchieBunker [slashdot.org] on 2001.12.01 20:19 (#2641679 [slashdot.org] )

    I love trolling but this shit is getting old, fast. At least start mixing them up a little bit. How about the 'How OSM was Freed' series?

    http://www.naawp.org/

  22. Re:Congratulations! You have been WIPO'd!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.01 8:37 (#2640602 [slashdot.org] )

    Stop posting this! I've got hangover and Taco Snotting doesn't make me feel any better.

    I'm really glad that Taco Snotting is illegal here in Europe.

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The WIPO Troll [slashdot.org] . Verbatim crapflooding of this document is permitted in any medium, provided this copyright notice is preserved, and next time you take a dump, you think of the WIPO Troll and all he's done to make Slashdot a better place.

Bathroom Graffiti (1)

LaNMaN2000 (173615) | more than 12 years ago | (#2709413)

Now, instead of having to deal with obscene graffiti on the walls of public bathroom stalls, the graffiti will automatically page people when they use the commode, to make obscene remarks. What makes it even worse is that shop owners won't be able to get rid of such messages as easily; it would be very strange if an entire bathroom would need to be declared because people with pagers would get demeaning comments about their adequacy when they used the urinals.

From a more serious perspective, webmasters strongly disapproved of Third Voice, who provided software that allowed users to associate comments with web pages. I imagine shopkeepers who are slandered (or have their bathrooms rendered "interactive") will strongly oppose this technology.

Re:Bathroom Graffiti (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2709421)

"declared" should be "closed"

Sorry about the editing error.

Whats the need for GPS? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2709654)

I was under the impression that a mobile phones location can be calculated to within a few metres without any GPS system.

At any time your phone can poll base stations in the local area and determine which station provides the strongest link. By knowing the location of three base stations, and knowing the relative signal strengths, the location of the mobile phone can be triangulated very accurately.

I remember reading about this quite some time ago, but I haven't heard anything about it recently. The technology can apprently be used in criminal investigations, such as kidnappings and such. I am pretty sure all networks have the technical ability to do it, but don't do it because of privacy concerns and the like.

Slander? Beat it with GPS based /. moderation (2)

Embedded Geek (532893) | more than 12 years ago | (#2711986)

food-lovers could post messages outside a restaurant door, giving subsequent visitors an instant endorsement or a warning to take their custom elsewhere. (New Scientist)

How long would it be before some ticked off merchant sued to stop posting of messages in front of his property? If he could prove a competitor had flamed/slandered him (although that would take a Scientology style witchhunt to break through any anonymity setups), he'd have serious grounds.

As far as critiques of companies or services go, you'd really need some kind of moderation. Not only could they filter insightful comments from the flames, but they could also handle admin chores, such as moving a company's coordinates when it moves, killing old records when a place goes under and a new one moves in, or aliasing/hyperlinking coordinates when a place opens a second location.

Naturally, it would take a freaking mint of money to do if you had dedicated staff. But if you used, say, slashdot's or some other user driven moderation scheme, it just might be workable.

Picting! (1)

wolfywolfy (107431) | more than 12 years ago | (#2712452)

This reminds me of the Greg Bear series (Eon, Eternity)-- "picting", displaying complex characters and symbols above your shoulder-- is an important method of communication. If this could be build into glasses (or contact lenses) or mini-holographic displays, the richness of human communication could be vastly increased!

Imagine being able to project emoticons instead of actually smiling, frowning etc!
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