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Review: Final Fantasy X

CowboyNeal posted more than 12 years ago | from the chocobos-sin-and-blitzball dept.

Games 256

Every Christmas season brings with it a storm of new game releases, just in time for the gift-buying frenzy. This year however, marks the release of SquareSoft's first Final Fantasy title for the PS2. I was lucky enough to snag a copy soon after release and spend some time with it. Read on for my first impressions.

I expected a lot from Final Fantasy X, if only because it's Square's first RPG outing on PS2. Within the FF series, every time the jump to a new console was made, it resulted in either better graphics or gameplay, or in this case, both. Although fighting a battle in FFX initially feels like fighting a battle in one of it's predecessors there's been a significant amount of changes to the combat system.

I'm not going to discuss much in the way of plot or characters, because if you're like me, you'll want to discover that part on your own, since the plot is what keeps console RPGs moving.

What's New?

Final Fantasy games have always been rather combat-heavy, and leveling up at different times had gotten mind-numbingly boring. In an effort to change that, there are many more options during combat. Characters can be swapped in and out of combat at any time, and they can perform moves as soon as entering the battle, so it's no longer a big deal when you have to fight the weak-against-magic monster and you forgot to include a magic user in the party. In the same way, summons (called Aeons this time around) remain summoned until one dismisses them, replacing the party in battle. When an Aeon's HP drops to zero, the party is brought back into battle, but the Aeon can also be dismissed before that. There's still random battles just like previous games in the series, but it feels like they turned down the frequency of the battles a bit, especially from last year's FF9.

What would be a new Final Fantasy without a new magic system? This time around, it's a little quirky, but it doesn't disappoint. Remember when I mentioned leveling up being boring? Well this time around there's no character levels. Instead, everything is determined by a large sphere grid, that the characters move on using points they accrue by fighting battles. At various points in the grid, characters can lay different types of spheres that enhance them with new abilities, increased character starts, or more max HP/MP. The result is a non-linear system which is more open ended than magic systems of the past, allowing for greater character customization. The trick is to guide a character to the places on the grid that will allow him/her to get the skills desired while using the least amount of sphere levels (which are essentially travel points). Backtracking on the grid is allowed, but is also counterproductive.

Now onto the most fun part of the game: the graphics! With the capability of the PS2 at its disposal, this is easily the best looking ever Final Fantasy title ever, and it's a beautiful world that's been painted. While walking around, the world really comes alive, as trees sway and grass moves as wind goes past. Many of the characters' facial expressions are done in realtime, and while the scenes aren't picture perfect, they are a far cry from the jagged polygonal models on Playstation as well as the two dimensional sprites from the earlier FF titles. The battle sequences look better than ever also, as characters move more fluidly, and enemies do as well. The already stunning realtime animations are augmented by amazing FMV sequences. My only small complaint here is that there's no way to skip the movies entirely. Since it's still my first time playing the game, I haven't wanted to skip anything, but I still feel sorry for the impatient. There is, however, a configuration setting to turn off the extended summoning animations, so there won't be a five minute wait for the huge Aeons enter from space.

Something else FFX features for the first time in a Final Fantasy game: voice acting! Although not every bit of dialogue is dubbed, the voices that are dubbed are done better than I expected. My only complaint is that the lips were synched to the Japanese dialogue, and never resynched during importing. However, that never stopped me from enjoying a Kung Fu movie, and it doesn't stop me from enjoying the game either. Given that the game was released two months earlier than originally planned, I'll let this detail slide.

What's the Same?

Although the magic system was overhauled, most of the spells are still the same. There's still three levels of elemental spells, and an Ultima spell, and so on. Also, it wouldn't be much of a Final Fantasy without chocobos, and they are featured yet again.

When Final Fantasy IX was released last year, it featured characters with the traditional Final Fantasy classes, like summoner, white mage, blue mage, etc. I think Squaresoft found that players enjoyed the return to these classes, and decided to continue the trend. Although each character is ultimately customizable into any class, they each start with suggest paths across the sphere grid that resemble one of the classes.

Conclusions

Well, if my synopsis of the game didn't sound glowing already, let me reiterate. This game is fun! I had more fun playing the first few hours of FFX than I have had while beating other games. After seeing the character designs for the game, I was worried it might degrade into a "Dude, Where's My Water Sword?" kind of angst-ridden adventure, but instead it's just been fun, and lots of it. On a ten point scale, I give this game a nine, and although it's a little early to call, it may be my favorite Final Fantasy yet. Battle is integrated well with the plot, and with the tutorials placed within the game itself, I'd even recommend this game for those who may not necessarily be RPG fans.

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First post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2736831)

Probably not. -1 Off topic

Hello Freak! (-1)

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Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2737020)

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Re:Hello Freak! (-1)

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Re:Hello Freak! (-1)

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Re:Hello Freak! (-1, Troll)

Tasty Beef Jerky (543576) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737063)

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Re:Hello Freak! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2737109)

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Re:Hello Freak! (-1, Troll)

Tasty Beef Jerky (543576) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737132)

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cowboy neal? (-1, Offtopic)

gee308 (167706) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736837)

wow, looks like cowboy neal is trying to get off the lame and old "cowboy neal" poll options, and actually do some articles.

+1 funny (-1)

cockeater (542284) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736838)

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You know whose reviews I trust? (5, Informative)

dimator (71399) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736847)

Gamespot's [gamespot.com] , because I almost always agree with them.

Re:You know whose reviews I trust? (-1, Troll)

Rets.kcirt (544628) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736968)

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Re:You know whose reviews I trust? (0)

gregarine (171102) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737202)

Yeah Gamespot is good. They never pull any punches. If you earn an 8 with them it is a very good game. Since Cnet's GameCenter went under I have yet to find a respectable game review site to get a second opinion from. There are all these little fly by night ventures around but no one that seems to have the solid coverage Gamespot provides.

ATB (2, Interesting)

raindog151 (157588) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736852)

i'm still not quite sure why they removed the active time battle system from this one. generally speaking, the ff fighting system from 7-9 was easy enough to 'not die' in. the ATB system at least kept me on my toes.

generally speaking (and yes, i haven't gotten to a decent boss fight as of yet) it would seem that 'this monster attacks for about 310 damage, this character will need to heal this character next round' now. seems a tad bit stupified.

Re:ATB (4, Insightful)

nologin (256407) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737034)

Well, I've managed to get further into the game, and I can understand why they got rid of ATB.

Some of the boss battles do require some intelligent choices, especially with regards to replacing party members with reserves during battle. With turn based, you have a better idea of when you want to do substitutions. If a character is in danger, you have a good idea if you should bring in a reserve or try to heal.

It's especially useful when using Lulu (trying to avoid spoilers). She starts in a Black Magic area of the sphere grid. With a low HP maximum and no quick way to improve that stat, she nearly requires constant healing at the beginning of the game.

So, while I can't gauge how much of a difference in difficulty it makes, I'm glad that ATB is gone. Especially considering that they removed the pause feature during a battle.

Re:ATB (2, Interesting)

raindog151 (157588) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737057)

i did notice in the first underwater battle, the pincer attack on the squid thingy. that was an interesting feature to the battle system, but it's nothing that couldn't be done with the ATB.

i haven't even tried doing substitutions yet. it might work out for the better in that regard. ATB was never a perfect system, but i do think that it really added a sort of 'quick thinking' mentality, as in me rushing to think what the heck to do before the meter filled up.

i'm not really knocking what they've done, it's more of a lament for the feature that i've grown to love over all these years.

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You did forget... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2736855)

...to mention that Blitzball is BORING AS HELL.

Aside from that though, I'm enjoying it! :)

gamefaq image (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2736856)

They dont seem to like you leeching their images :p

Amazing (0, Redundant)

CheezeyWheezy (530001) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736857)

I am very pleased with the game. I've been waiting a lonnnnnnng time for it! Two thumbs up to Squaresoft yet again!

Japanese voices... (0, Interesting)

John Pfeiffer (454131) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736862)

I'd still rather be playing it with the Japanese voices... -_-

I suppose this means it's time for me to learn to READ Japanese as well...

But man does this game look sooooo kickass! ^_^

Re:Japanese voices... (-1)

jeremyf (167087) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736894)

And it's funny how the Japanese think it's cool when things use English text/voices =(

Final? (5, Funny)

cstrommen (254974) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736864)

Isn't it about time they renamed it "Almost Final Fantasy" ?

Re:Final? (5, Funny)

goodEvans (112958) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736899)

  • Penultimate Fantasy?
  • Numerically So High It May Seem There Can Be No Subsequent Fantasy?
  • Final Fantasy Till Next Time?
  • Oh God Not Another Fantasy?
  • Even More Final Than The Last Final Fantasy?

Heh. What will the actual last Final Fantasy game be called? Final Final Fantasy? Final Fantasy: The Final Fantasy?

Re:Final? (2, Redundant)

gerddie (173963) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736971)

Heh. What will the actual last Final Fantasy game be called?

Finally uninspired?

Re:Final? (1)

Jaysyn (203771) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737175)

YAFF

(Yet Another Final Fantasy)

Jaysyn

Re:Final? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2737040)

Parent is NOT THAT FUNNY.

Re:Final? (1)

Pr0xY (526811) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737108)

actually there is a reason for that name. The original final fantasy was made when the company was in serious economic trouble...it was called final fantasy, because they thought it was the last game they'd ever make :P

heh, talk about ironony...the seamingly neverending (but awsome) series is named after a game they thought would be there last.

Money for old rope (2, Interesting)

slayer99 (15543) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736867)

I can't deny the the FF series have been visually stunning, moreso with every release but the constant stream of releases has, to me, meant the quality of game play has dropped considerably.

Droolsome graphics don't /always/ win. :)

Re:Money for old rope (1)

Semi-Fly (545444) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737272)

Yes, the Graphics are amazing, but i totaly aggree about the drop in GamePlay...I found the last few releases _very_ dull, and i had a hard time playing for more then 20 minutes or so.

FF Beauty (4, Interesting)

Digitalia (127982) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736876)

Call me a luddite, but the most beautiful Final Fantasy game I'd played was FFVI. 3d just wasn't good enough to draw my attention away from the classical FF. But FFX may finally have succeeded and hopefully I'll be able to see the other FF games in a better light, now. The majesty of FFVI will not be forgotten.

Gamefaq Error (2, Informative)

inerte (452992) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736883)

If you click the sphere screenshot link you will see this message:

"Referer Link Error

On every single HTML page of GameFAQs is the following request:
Feel free to link to this page, but not directly to the FAQs.."

So, go directly to http://www.gamefaqs.com.

Re:Gamefaq Error (2)

crayz (1056) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736895)

Just copy the URL, paste it into your address bar, and hit enter. Or, some browsers let you turn off the referer information(iCab and possibly also OmniWeb for Mac, maybe Mozilla too)

Re:Gamefaq Error (1)

inerte (452992) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736903)

Yeah, much easier :-)

Opera also has the ability to turn off referer logging.

Posting anon to save karma (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2736888)

I just don't think FF is all that compelling. Sure, its cute to see the cut-scene animations, but ultimately this is a board game with clever graphics.

Pretty boring considering the games that make better use of a computer as a medium for entertainment.

Re:Posting anon to save karma (2)

squaretorus (459130) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736952)

Agreed. I have tried to play and enjoy games of this type since the days of the NES - but ALWAYS find disappointment, impatience and frustration.

If I want to watch CGI I'll see Monsters Inc or Toy Story!

What's so bad about board games? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2737045)

I'm really failing to see what's wrong with a board game, though. *IS* there something actually wrong with a board game? I love a good board game. In fact, I think I'd rather play a good board game than just about anything else that comes out for computers.

In honesty, the real options I see available are pointless driving games, mindless sports games, senseless action games, and the on-and-off release of yet another RTS game that is hailed as the next big thing but which, when looked at critically, is basically Command and Conquer with a different interface (which is itself Dune 2 with a different interface). Compared to this pile of tripe, even the most repetetive CRPG is at least mildly interesting. Exciting ones, like The Legend of Dragoon, are nothing but stunning.

Ugh...I'm rambling. The point is that I don't mind a board game. Managing a Final Fantasy combat is far more mentally engaging than a lot of the garbage in computer gaming, and I won't deny the "board game" analogy. Most of the enduring board games are mentally engaging, fun, and constantly interesting. Given that FF is now the longest running CRPG series ever, I think that's a sign that it's obviously a damned good board game.

(Although it's still not nearly as much fun to play as, say, Kessen or Kessen II)

Re:Posting anon to save karma (5, Funny)

frunch (513023) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737067)

No way, man! First of all the gameplay system is amazing! There's a totally new, revamped magic system in which your magic meter tells you the same information but in a different way. Oh, and magic isn't called magic in this one, it's called mana, or moglee or mechlo, or something like that. Anyway, it's TOTALLY different from magic. And the fighting system? It's been completely revamped with new camera angles and magic animations that are over 1/2 an hour long!

And wait until you hear the plot! It's totally mindblowing!!!! Supposedly, it involves an evil boss who wants to control the world, and you have to stop him. (the big secret is that evil boss 1 is actually being controlled by a bigger and MORE EVIL evil boss 2!!!) Who knows... I've even heard rumors that there's a REALLY BIG, REAAAALLY EVIL evil boss 3 controlling them all, who wants to destroy the world!

And supposedly, there's a great back-story about your character where you learn that about the mysterious background of your character!!! And I thought he was just a simple cyber-hyper-techno ball player!! Who would've known!!

(sorry if I've given away too much of the plot!)

Re:Posting anon to save karma (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2737128)

which your magic meter tells you the same information but in a different way.

May I introduce you to my "magic meter" in my trousers. All 9" of it...

Re:Posting anon to save karma (1)

Semi-Fly (545444) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737287)

Indeed...one could say that about the Game Industry in genreal. Vusuals != Great game.

first spoiler! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2736921)

Cid dies midway through the game.
Thank you.

Ass Question (-1)

The WIPO Troll (267426) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736930)

Ever wonder why the expressions, "Shove it up your ass!" and, "Blow it out your ass!" mean the exact same thing? Along that same vein, why is it called a "blowjob" when my little sister "sucks" on my penis? How can one "blow" and "suck" at the same time?

Inquiring trolls want to know.

What the...? (5, Interesting)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736931)

  • Given that the game was released two months earlier than originally planned

And in other news, our weather reporter mounted on a flying pig advises all you denizens of Hell to wrap up warm, because there's a cold snap coming on.

Actually, it's not that surprising. I'm about to embark on a port of some software for the Japanese market, and I've been told to multiply my estimate by 3. I mean, pad it as much as I usually do, then multiply by 3. The Japanese market habitually underpromises and overdelivers, in stark contrast to marketing driven North America and Europe. How quaint!

Re:What the...? (1)

sjdst31 (545440) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737155)

It was obviously released early to get it out int time for the holiday season......they would of been pretty dumb not to......

Older Final Fantasy (4, Insightful)

SDrag0n (532175) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736939)

Personally, I liked the older Final Fantasies. The new ones seem like punching buttons through a movie. In the old ones (FF, FF2, FF3 or FF, FF4, FF6) They had some much more interesting puzzles and even if the characters are 2D, I think the game was more fun to play.

Re:Older Final Fantasy (1)

Dikarika (526153) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737062)

I have to agree totally. The older titles played much better and had IMHO a better graphical style than even today's 3D versions. FFII and FFIII are the highlights of the series (US releases anyway), and I still play them to this day on good ol' SNES9x. Fantastic!

Re:Older Final Fantasy (2, Informative)

Jaysyn (203771) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737194)

Final Fantasy Anthology for the PSX is very sweet. The cute, blocky characters that we grew up with combined with the newer FMV Movies (that replace the original scripted cutscenes). It rules!! I got my copy for $25 from a used media store.

Jaysyn

Re:Older Final Fantasy (5, Insightful)

jmu1 (183541) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737178)

It has a lot to do with the fact that it is on a movie system, not a gaming system. Playstation 1 & 2 are both riddled with games hidden within movies. This mainly comes from the fascination with 3D realism and whatnot that game development shops have gotten into. It is a shame to see it happen, but perhaps there is hope with Nintendo's GameCube. They have always been a minimalist shop that believed that the game was the most important thing, and the stories/graphics were supportive to the whole, not the whole in and of itself. An exception to the rule: 'sports' games. For instance the Tony Hawk Pro Skater series is a great deal more entertaining than hitting the x button to get past all the movies/transition scenes. Really, is it worth our while to have to watch the hero in SoulReaver 2 open and close doors, or can he just open and close doors during game play? "More matter, less art" -- Gertrude to Hamlet

Re:Older Final Fantasy (2)

Sludge (1234) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737228)

I concur and want to throw Chrono Trigger into the comparison as well. There's something about every FF including 7 (which was still pretty good) that seems like a thinly veiled new age storyline. Nobuo Uematsu's music is definately best when he's futher left of Japanese pop culture aspects.

Final Fantasy 2 is my favourite to date.

BLIZTBALL bugs?! (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2736943)

I love this game, but how the hell are you supposed to control the blitzball team? My guys completely suck. That action menu to pss or shoot doesnt open when I hit square and i have to wiat for an encounter to shoot. Is this a bug or what?

Grrrr (3, Funny)

Malorian (520615) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736945)

By the time FF X is released in the UK, you lot will have played through 'Finished Fantasy I'...

Old school (1)

M4d D0nkie (463763) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736954)

If you are not a graphics whore, the earlier FF games are just as good, if not better and free as in beer if you can find an emulation site. plus you get to play them on your PC (and hack your stats when you get bored.) The story line of FF4 and the incredible set of character in FF6 will never be matched. Save your money and play the games when they were about the epic story telling and not the eye candy.

Re:Old school (4, Funny)

Dimensio (311070) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737029)

The earlier FF games are not "free", as the copyright is still owned by Squaresoft and in fact the three Super Famicom incarnations of the Final Fantasy series were re-released and still available for purchase for the Playstation console. Stop encouraging people to commit software piracy and steal Squaresoft's well-deserved revenue you filthy thief.

By the way, do you know if the latest translation patch for the Japanese Super Famicom FF6 has been released? I've been dying to patch my ROM image with it so I can see a more faithful translation of the dialogue.

Re:Old school (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2737114)

Sir,

I beg to differ. You yourself are no different than the gentleman of the previous post in that you say 'stop stealing from squaresoft'. Then you turn right around and ask for a translation for your pirated FF6j ROM.

You sicken me.

Is there some sort of overriding plot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2737091)

Something I've wondered...

I've played FF1, FF2, FF5 (I think...didn't that come out for the American SNES?), FF7, FF8, and I'm working on FFX now. Every one of them has been interesting (as far as CRPGs go), but I've never really seen what defines them as a "series" per se. Is there some sort of general story line connecting them all, or are they completely disconnected and using the name Final Fantasy just for marketing?

I'm assuming that, if it's the latter, the FF movie was the same thing...random story, just using the name.

FF's Battle System is Overrated.. (5, Informative)

Talez (468021) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736956)

While I'm not denying Squaresoft's ability to write one hell of a story, the problem is that I play these games based on how well it battles as a primary trait rather than a bullet point on the box.

ATB has long been the bane of PSX FF games. It was a relic of the limited integer processing capabilities of the SNES's processor and should be left firmly on that platform. It's about time they ditched it altogether and went for something more plausible like Grandia 2.

If you've ever been lucky enough to be graced with this game's precense, you wont be sorry until you complete it, roughly 30 hours later. For those who'd rather get back to the old school days where battling was the game rather than watching an FMV-athon (FF8 ugh!), I'd heartily recommend this game.

The battle system works by having a bar. At the left, you have WAIT. About two thirds of the way across you have COM. On the very end, you have ACT.

The time between WAIT and COM is about as close as you get to ATB. From there, all hell brakes loose. The time between WAIT and COM is purely based upon character speed. The faster your character, the less time until it gets to choose its move.

At COM phase time all time stops. You get a menu of possible actions.

Combo attacks are quick to ACT but also require positioning, a swing and then a retreat. This can take much longer than a well powered special move and may not be appropriate for every situation. On the plus side they do between 2-4 hits depending on items equipped by the character.

Combos will also keep a character pinned. Their icon on the COM-ACT bar will stop momentarily while being slapped down. Yes it is technically possible to keep a bossed pinned using normal attacks until you can Cancel them. More on that in a sec.

Cancel attacks work by basically dragging a character back in the COM-ACT bar. The further advanced along their attack is, the greater amount you drag them back into the WAIT-COM portion. If you hit them before COM you will drag them back about 10-15%. Many a time it has been nailbitingly close to cancelling someone right after they get into COM. They are slower than combo attacks and only hit once so be careful how you use them too.

Both these types of attacks can also Counter. If an enemy is at ACT phase and about to hit, a character can counter that enemy by using a faster initiative attack. Using something like a combo attack on an enemy about to dig into your healer is not only a brilliant way to save the healer but it also does extra damage! If you can time it perfectly, you can even cancel them, not only doing extra damage, but dragging them right back into the WAIT-COM phase.

Last but not least is the special attack. These take the longest to charge but instantly start when you get to ACT. Some specials may even cancel. One of the cheapest moves in the game is to power up Ryudo to max ACT and then use his Tenseiken Slash to cancel a boss attack in process. This actually happens in under a tick when you have enough act and 5 star special. Specials also include magic so theres no need to explain that.

While I havent begun to scratch the surface on the underlying mechanics of the special and magic egg system, I hope that this little explanation will tempt you to go out and grab it. With Dreamcasts being as cheap as they are, you could probably grab one and Grandia 2 for maybe $80 if your lucky. Even less second hand.

Anyway, it'd be nice to see some alternatives reviewed rather than just overrated mainstream hype machines (IMHO anyway, but then again, I live for the battle so YMMV). Oh well, I hope that FFXI will outshine G2 and FFX by a long, long way.

Also, if you are planning to complete this game, it take a few hours from getting the final weapon to seeing the last of the ending. Plan for at least 2-4 hours depending on how well you are along. I must warn you, the final boss is sheer endurance. He has an insane amount of hitpoints >:)

...I'm more fond of Dragoon's melee (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2737069)

My favorite battle system has always been the one used in Legend of Dragoon. Not only does it have a lot of neat little touches to it that I've seen in other games (defending healing a character, for example), but it also has a lot of little arcade-like hooks in it that keep the pace moving along and really clear up the "boring battle blues." The most notable is that all characters (except one) have the ability to perform multiple strikes in the same attack, and their efficacy of hitting the target (and getting the chance for the next strike) is based on little timing tricks in your pressing the buttons. It's a very engaging system, and I really dig it.

FFX aka... (5, Funny)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736958)

  • Final Fantasy 10: Now With 25% More of the Same Old Same Old
  • Final Fantasy 10: Purchase is Mandatory
  • Final Fantasy 10: Hey, If It Works For Microsoft...
  • Final Fantasy 10: Made from 90% Recycled Code.
  • Final Fantasy 10: The Muzak of Magic

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy FF, but it really does seem like a candidate for an annual subscription and "Software as a Service"... ;-)

Re:FFX aka... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2737088)

Linux 2.4: Made from 90% recycled code
...

Re:FFX aka... (1)

Jaysyn (203771) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737215)

You have to admit, a persistent MMORPG set in one of the Final Fantasy worlds (or a few of them, space / dimensional travel is cool) would be pretty damn awesome.

Jaysyn

Suggestions for Total FF Newbie? (3, Interesting)

Xerion (265191) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736959)

I may very well get flamed for saying this on slashdot, especially this thread, but I NEVER PLAYED a single FF game, NEVER.

I bearly watched someone else play... total time logged watching = 13.3 min. I played RPG's before, both console but mostly PC-RPGs. I definitely go for the story more than anything. Well, under tremedous peer pressure, and the desire to join the majority, I've decided to start playing FF. But I have the following concerns, and hope some of you can help me out.

1) Since I have ZERO knowledge of FF (did watch the movie tho, and it's below my expection), I dont know which one I should start with. Should I start with FFX, or is there any chronological order to the series (Ultima comes to mind).

2) Which FF is the BEST, in terms of
a) Story
b) Character development
c) Original Gameplay (magic/combat systems, etc.)
d) Total enjoyment / amount of time needed to beat game. (Important ratio for someone with little free time)
e) Graphics

3) And which is the WORST FF game? I heard FF8 sucked due to its real-time rendering. So is there any FF that I should NOT touch?

Hope someone will give me a start on the FF serious.

And please dont flame me, or I might just to buy "Summoner" instead.

Re:Suggestions for Total FF Newbie? (1)

SDrag0n (532175) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736970)

Personally, my favorite is FF6 (FF3 in the USA), but the original and 2 were good too. 7 is weird, 8 is okay. I'd go with one of the first 3 released in the US although they are for NES or SNES. Emulators work well for both of those systems though.

Re:Suggestions for Total FF Newbie? (1)

Talez (468021) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736977)

1) Get ZSNES and get FF6. You wont be disappointed.

2a) FF4

b) FF6

c) Draw between FF5 or FF6. Fanboys exist for both camps.

d) Get all of the SNES versions on an emultator and just quit your school/job for a month or three.

e) FFX

3) 8. Don't touch it.

Re:Suggestions for Total FF Newbie? (1)

raindog151 (157588) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736999)

what is your vendetta against ff8?

i bought ff8 on it's release date, and i will admit, i hated it. hated it so much i put it on a shelf to collect dust about a week later. just last month, i decided to give it another shot (after beating 6, 7 and 9 again) and really got into it. in fact, as far as battling and magic systems go, ff8 really does beat down the other, imho.

ff8 is probably the only one in the series where the battles take any actual strategy. granted, the card game and item collection can get tedious, but square throws that stuff in for the fanboys.

i will concur that ff6 is probably the best in the series, but please do explain what you didn't like about ff8 (without comparing story lines)

Re:Suggestions for Total FF Newbie? (2)

Dimensio (311070) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737038)

Without comparing storylines, I didn't like the storyline of FF8 period. It wasn't that the other FF games had "better" storylines, it was that FF8's storyline bored me -- I had no interest in the characters nor did I have any interest in furthering the plot after destroying that metal walker thing.

It and FF2 (the Japanese version) are the only Final Fantasies I've not completed (well, apart from FFX, but I'll probably do that one). Further, I'll probably go ahead and play through FF2 sometime, I just never got around to it.

Re:Suggestions for Total FF Newbie? (1)

Talez (468021) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737080)

The Card/GF thing just didnt feel right... I'm sorry for such a sucky and troll-like answer but for me it just didn't click. It's different... but just not different in a good way... Its not like how FF5 went from classes to FF6 espers in a good way...

I've played and enjoyed many different battle systems. Some of my personal favourites are the FF5 class system, FF6 Esper System, Shining Force 2 semi-strategy system and Golden Sun's Djinni system. FF8 just doesn't strike me like a battle system I enjoy does.

Tal

Re:Suggestions for Total FF Newbie? (1)

raindog151 (157588) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737094)

the card thing really didn't feel right. i'll agree with that. it's all M:TG syndrome, the rich kid with the great cards usually wins.

ff8 reminded me a lot of the battle system from ff6 in a lot of ways, especially with zell's limit break vs/ the blitz.

anyway, enough posts from me today.

Re:Suggestions for Total FF Newbie? (2)

Yosho (135835) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737123)

ff8 is probably the only one in the series where the battles take any actual strategy.

They didn't for me. Just draw 100 of every new spell you find, junction it to boost whatever stat you want at the moment, and then proceed to tear enemies apart. At the beginning of the game all you have to do is summon GF's over and over and over. By the end, Squall's normal attacks were doing 3000+ damage, so all I had to do was just use normal attacks constantly.

In fact, I would daresay that FF8's system has a horrible flaw in that enemies get stronger as you level up; in fact, I found that many enemies improve at a faster rate than you do, meaning that it's now *bad* to level up. And that's added to the fact that it always takes 1000 XP to go up a level; with a bit of time and patience, you could be at level 100 right at the beginning of the game, because enemies there give about as much experience as you can get at the end of the game.

Re:Suggestions for Total FF Newbie? (1)

fifthchild (443035) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736996)

Try FF8. It doesn't suck as you may have heard. It was actually my first FF game and I got my head around it fast enough. Before that I played Zelda on my good ol' Nintendo.

It felt very linear compared to Link's adventures but it's a very different game. The first time you play through it you can get lost and caught up in the story... If you want to. Graphically it's no longer stunning, but the CGI is still worthy. I'm playing it throught again and it still appeals to me.

Don't play just because of peer preassure from Slashdot. PLay because they are worthy games. If they sucked they wouldn't be as popular as they are. Games usually don't make it as far as the tenth installment if the idea is stale and the play flawed.

Go on, join us... You don't need to sleep for a few weeks...

Another reccomendation: find a Snes emu and play FF3/FF5. A truly epic experience...

Re:Suggestions for Total FF Newbie? (1)

th3walrus (191223) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737030)

When looking at the Playstation generation of Final Fantasy games, here's what I have to say.

FFVII - Good for your average teenage gamer. Some plot depth, lots of action and bad ass characters.

FFVIII - Good for older gamers who enjoy a deep and meaningful storyline and aren't overly concerned with action and being a bad ass. Get this if you're not afraid to get emotional during a video game.

FFIX - A good mix of styles. It's got the old school action of Final Fantasy games and is set in a more medieval atmosphere (like the original FF games), but has a really compelling storyline that's very touching at the same time.

FFX - Not quite sure yet, but from what I've seen it looks like it's more along the lines of VII as far as storyline goes (which is disappointing to me as I HATE VII). I've heard from most people it's more like VIII, but I have yet to see that.

Re:Suggestions for Total FF Newbie? (2)

Junta (36770) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737185)

Don't know about FF8, it didn't really pull on my emotions much, it was just too... strange. Squall really goes from seeming to like Rinoa, to being indifferent, and then *really* liking her in very sudden changes. And when he is liking her, it really seems to be shown very corny. Even FFIX made a better love story, simply because it wasn't so much the focus that it got hammed up too much. FF7 on the romance end is more allowing adolescents to endulge in delusions of "pimp-daddiness". Of the SNES games, I've only made significant progress in FF5, and there is a complete lack of Love story. In fact, FF5 feels kinda flat all around in terms of story.

On the other hand, other emotional aspects change things. When it comes to the plight of the characters/people of the World, FF6 and FF7 have thus far held me the most, FF5, again, seemed too flat. FF9 came close to that level too, but with FF8, I just found the characters to be too affected to identify with. In general this is the case, but it seems worse in 8, either becasue the game tries to take itself more seriously than others (which is why chocobos just seem *so* out of placee), or because maybe they are more affected and exagerated, I'm not sure.

In any case, FF8 really didn't grab me that much. In addition to the story issues, the graphics disapponted. The FMVs were some of the nicest of the series, but the realtime graphics aimed too high, and delivered some really good textures and geometric detail, but the geometry level was still insufficient to pull off the "realistic" look they were aiming for and also the number of polygons and how small things were allowed to get looked horrible at PS1 resolutions.

Re:Suggestions for Total FF Newbie? (1)

Mprx (82435) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737259)

I haven't played FFX yet, so it's excluded from all my opinions.

Best story: FF7. I enjoyed this game far more than any other the others, because the story is complicated and engaging. It's still got some stupid cliched parts, but that's to be expected if you're playing a console RPG.

Best character development: FF8. This game has the best characters in any console RPG I've played. Some people don't like it, but that's because the characters are more realistic and not perfectly heroic as they would like.

Best gameplay: FF8. Most console RPGs can be won be alternating between attacking and healing until you level up enough. This won't work in FF8, the enemies level up with you and gain stat boosts faster than you. It's actually good to avoid levelling up in this game. The junction system gives you a lot of options for customizing your characters, and the battles are not too slow as long as you don't use summons (which are a waste of time anyway, limit breaks do much more damage).

Total enjoyment: If you've never played a FF game before DON'T start on one of the pre-PSX games. You'll probably never truely enjoy them unless you played them at the time they were released. I most enjoyed FF7, but it has inferior gameplay to FF8 and now I probably wouldn't have the patience. FF8 is also slightly shorter, which is good.

Graphics: FF8 by far. FF9 had better FMVs, but that's a minor part of the game and doesn't make up for the deformed and stupid looking character designs.

Worst FF: Worst of all time is the first FF game. It's the most repetitive and boring RPG I've played. Worst relative to the standards of other games at the time is FF9. This was a major disapointment after FF7 and 8, it's just a big nostaligia trip for all the fans of the old games and you won't enjoy it. The battle system regressed to even worse than FF7 quality, and the characters returned to the idealised heroic type I find so irratating. Don't play it.

Re:Suggestions for Total FF Newbie? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2737270)

I may not be the best person to answer this, because I started on FFVII. But I really liked FFVII. The characters were great. The bad guy was cool. Just overall 9.5/10
FFVIII I could never finish. It kept boring me for some reason. I don't know why.
FFIX was another great one with another cool bad guy. The story was great and the characters were well done. Another 9.5/10
I just bought FFX and have only played it for a few hours. It looks pretty, but I'm just worried its going to be another FFVIII.

Re:Suggestions for Total FF Newbie? (1)

archen (447353) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737277)

I'd say play them in order. Not because of any of the reasons you want to know about, but because older = cheaper. Obviously if you aren't concerned about playing classic games, then the older graphics won't bother you. The FF collection was released not so long ago that has just about all of the earlier FF releases if I remember correctly. I bought FF7 4 days ago for $20. By the time you finish these in order, 8-10 will probably be on sale too. That way if you are disappointed in a game, you won't be as dissapointed in how much you paid. But then again I'm cheap.

5 (-1)

The WIPO Troll (267426) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736986)

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That little hand makes your thing look really huge.
Guy comes home from work to find his girlfriend sitting on the porch, crying.
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How can you tell when your sister's on her period?
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No sir, I don't like it. (1)

aoty (533561) | more than 12 years ago | (#2736995)

I haven't enjoyed a FF game since FFIII (US). They are too linear for me. It's not that I don't like an interactive story, but I'd like some control over how the story goes. That's just my opinion, but I'm obviously in the minority. I just never understood the popularity of the FF games.

Stephen King, author, dead at 55 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2737002)


I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Horror/Sci Fi writer Stephen King was found dead in his Maine home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon.

Aaaah!!! (-1)

The WIPO Troll (267426) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737004)

These [linux.com] just raped me!!

Re:Aaaah!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2737032)

What's wrong with Rob's right eye?

Did you poke your dick in it?

Re:Aaaah!!! (-1)

The WIPO Troll (267426) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737071)

Yes, actually. He had it coming! He was poking me with his dick for hours!

Monet Graphics (1)

th3walrus (191223) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737014)

*Most* of the graphics in FFX are amazing. One problem I have with the game is the player character graphics. When the camera is within 10 feet of them, they look absolutely beautiful. Get any further away than that and they look worse than the player characters in a PS1 Final Fantasy. They end up being all jagged, pixelized and blurry.

Also, there are a couple times when you get too much action going on around the screen and the system lags for a split second. Not much of a problem because it doesn't last long, but I've already seen people complaining about it.

On an off-topic note, I have to say I'm very disappointed with the introduction to the blitzball mini-game (tiny spoiler ahead for those who haven't gotten past the first blitzball game). Why would a game designer introduce a mini-game by using a version of the game that is almost impossible for the player to win? Do they think that makes me want to keep playing the mini-game throughout the rest of the game? Luckally I think blitzball is kind of fun, so I'll end up playing it from time to time. I still think it's bad design.

My Mistake In The Topic... (2, Funny)

th3walrus (191223) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737041)

That would be Anti-Monet graphics. =)

Will buy it today (1)

joeler (45203) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737027)

I wasn't sure, but what the heck, after reading your review I will give it a try.

Re:Will buy it today (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2737112)


I give the video GETTING FAT & SCAT WITH DA BOYZ starring Cmdr Taco 4 stars. You may want to check that out too.

About the graphics... (5, Informative)

Junta (36770) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737033)

It is truly a beautifully done game. It does suffer from one huge problem: aliasing. Most all PS2 games have this problem worse than Gamecube, X-Box, and even Dreamcast games. I do wish Sony had provided some form of Anti-Aliasing. PS2 can certainly push the polygons, put the polygons are just too low res. Particularly with how much FFX pushes things, at distances things become really jagged, and if a textured surface is in movement, I don't know the world for the effect, but the texture kinda flickers as pixels of the texture move between viewable, non-viewable, and viewable again between pixels, if that makes any sense.

Nonetheless, it is a truly remarkable game, really engaging story and the graphics are really detailed in terms of both texture and geometry, but the available resolution and lack of AA unfortunately detracts from the otherwise stunning game. It's better than the PS1 FFs in this respect, (except that shimmering effect I notice...) but with that level of geometry it becomes more disappointing..

Re:About the graphics... (1)

Grab (126025) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737219)

The word is "aliasing". Hence "anti-aliasing". :-)

Grab.

Truly shocked... (0, Offtopic)

ivrcti (535150) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737077)

What?? A FFn story that's NOT by CmdrTaco ??? Tell me it's not so.......

Re:Truly shocked... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2737136)


He was busy sucking off Cowboy Neal as he typed it. So he was invovled, but drinking ball gravy isn't enough to get you a b-line.

Final History (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2737101)


HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF

+MONDAY MORNING+
Cmdr Taco: I will not suck any more dick ever again.
+MONDAY EVENING+
Cmdr Taco: *slurp* *slurp* *slurp*

+TUESDAY MORNING+
Cmdr Taco: I will not suck any more dick ever again.
+TUESDAY EVENING+
Cmdr Taco: *slurp* *slurp* *slurp*

+WEDNESDAY MORNING+
Cmdr Taco: I will not suck any more dick ever again.
+WEDNESDAY EVENING+
Cmdr Taco: *slurp* *slurp* *slurp*

+THURSDAY MORNING+
Cmdr Taco: I will not suck any more dick ever again.
+THURSDAY EVENING+
Cmdr Taco: *slurp* *slurp* *slurp*

+FRIDAY MORNING+
Cmdr Taco: I will not suck any more dick ever again.
+FRIDAY EVENING+
Cmdr Taco: *slurp* *slurp* *slurp* *slurp*

+SATURDAY MORNING+
Cmdr Taco: I will not suck any more dick ever again.
+SATURDAY EVENING+
Cmdr Taco: *slurp* *slurp* *slurp*

+SUNDAY MORNING+
Cmdr Taco: Today is the Lord's day.
+SUNDAY AFTERNOON+
Cmdr Taco: *slurp* *slurp* *slurp*

This is a mistake ... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2737126)


Cowboy Neal actually reviewed "Anal Fantasy X." He also wrote, directed, and starred in it. You can find it in the video section under "Fag Porn." The digital effects (like increasing his penis from 2" to 3" and the huge amounts of cum he drinks) were done on a Linux box and therefore look very fake.

two months early (0, Troll)

Proud Geek (260376) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737151)

Of course you know why they are doing this. Sony has an almost complete monopoly on the console market (almost, but not quite, to the same level as Microsoft's Windows monopoly). They are now facing their biggest threat since the N64 (which failed to gain wide appeal; consider it the Macintosh of consoles). Of course they are pressuring their publishers to release early and release often just about now. As a moral point, anyone who believes that competition is a good thing and a monopoly is a bad thing should skip Playstation 2 titles, no matter how good, and get a Gamecube or XBOX instead.

Wow (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2737168)

CowboyNeal does exist! Who-da thunk? And all this time, I thought CowboyNeal was just another option on the Slashdot poll.


Can I pet him? Does he bite?


I'm AC, but I'm not that AC!

Nice... (2)

glowingspleen (180814) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737186)

Final Fantasy 10, eh? I bet the crew that named this series never expected it to have so many sequals ;)

Osama bin Laden, terrorist, dead at 44 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2737201)

I just heard some sad news on talk radio - al Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden was found dead in his Afghani cave this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to anti-American culture. Truly an Arabian icon.

Get On With It (1)

airos4 (82561) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737205)

My biggest problem with FFX is that so far, I've played about an hour and a half into it and I've had maybe - four battles. An hour and a half into it and I've been in control of the character maybe fifteen minutes. I like pretty CGI as much as the next guy, but this is suffering from Metal Gear Solid 2-itis so far and it's irritating me.

Blitzball??? (0, Redundant)

Geeky Frignit (232507) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737213)

You didn't mention blitzball at all in the review. The fact that while past games have had card games as side games, this one has sporting events as the side games. Thought it was interesting and look forward to trying to actually win a game sometime.

But then again, I typically enjoy sports games on console which a lot of people don't.

Almost non-interactive (2)

Junks Jerzey (54586) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737216)

The FF games have been slowly getting more non-interactive, and FFX is the culmination of that trend. In the first hour of gameplay, you have control of your character for maybe 20% of the time, and that's being generous. Sometimes you go for 10 minutes just watching movies. The combat sequences--the actual game parts--are much less impressive than the non-interactive sequences. The parts where you have control of your character are almost completely linear, and you just walk forward much of the time.

Bottom line: Amazing visuals? Yes. A game? Sorta, leaning toward no.

A disappointment (1)

clemens (188721) | more than 12 years ago | (#2737246)

Yes, I live in Hongkong and was lucky to grab a Japanese release a few months ago. I'm a big fan of FF since FF I, but FFX was a great disappointment to me. The graphics were stunning, the music was emotion-tearing, but the flow of gameplay? Sucks. Every an hour or so a cut-scene pops up, yes, you'll say 'wow' when you first saw one, but after 10 or so, you'll feel fed up. And each cut-scene is about 5-15 mins. long, gave me a feeling that 'Hey, who the hell is playing the game? Me or the characters themselves?'

Maybe Square wants to redefine RPG-- Roles Plays the Game, not you ;)

And I resold my copy after about 15 hrs. of gameplay.

Micro spoiler (first 3 hours) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2737293)

I thought it was pretty cool how the battles and animated scenes flow together. Such as the battle with Sin on the boat at the beginning. It felt more realistic, because in real life, you just don't stand there trading punches till someone dies, there's actually movement and such. If you'd hit Sin a few times, the camera would pan around to the other side and he/she would be pulling left and right to try to release the harpoon.

But.... Why didn't they just attack the harpoon cable instead of fighting Sin? It would have been easier. Especially since Waka warned the guy that if you harpooned Sin, Sin would just pull the boat under. So why attack Sin, when you could cut the cable?
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