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BBC Rerunning Radio Lord of the Rings

CmdrTaco posted more than 12 years ago | from the capture-the-streams-baby dept.

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Motor writes "I'm not sure if I'm doing the BBC website a favour by mentioning this, but BBC Radio 4 is, from Saturday the 5th of January, running their excellent radio serialisation of The Lord of the Rings in thirteen, one hour weekly episodes. I'm not sure how much load the streaming system can handle though :)" Make a note of it, and save 'em. The LotR radio show is very acclaimed.

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The Turd Report 12/25/2001 (X-mas edition) (-1)

The Turd Report (527733) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749447)

Merry Turd-mas everyone! I had a sausage, mushroom and pepperoni pizza last night. The bread kind of bound me up so the turd was very hard to get out and I made a loud fart as it came out. It made a report like a .22 rifle. It took a good 15 seconds of pushing to get it on its way. It was a generic brown color and had a slight odor to it. It was about 18 inches long. I rate this turd as a 7.

Help with Outlook Express? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749477)

Hey, kewl hacker doodz!

I just saw on TechTV how to get previews of your HTML email in Outlook Express. But I didn't understand it part way through. Can someone help me figure this high-tech computer stuff out? Thanks!!!

Re:Help with Outlook Express? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749559)

C'mere fishie, fishie, fishie...

Merry Wait & Bleed from Slipknot (-1)

Big_Ass_Spork (446856) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749649)


I've felt the hate rise up in me...
Kneel down and clear the stone of leaves...
I wander out where you can't see...
Inside my shell, i wait and bleed...

I wipe it off the tile, the light is brighter this time
Everything is 3D blasphemy
My eyes are red and gold, the hair is standing straight up
This is not the way I pictured me
I can't control my shakes, how the hell did I get here?
Something about this, so very wrong...
I have to laugh out loud, I wish I didn't like this
Is it a dream or a memory?

Get outta my head cuz I don't need this
Why didn't I see this?
I'm a victim - Manchurian candidate
I have sinned by just
Makin' my mind up and takin' your breath away

You haven't learned a thing
I haven't changed a thing
My flesh was in my bones
The pain was always free

And it waits for you!

Second post? (-1)

The Turd Report (527733) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749448)

Please Baby Jesus, give it to me!

Very Good Work Mr. Turd Report (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749520)

Spectacular success with 1st & 2nd post!! Am so impressed, Mr. Turd Report. Please keep up the good work.

Being that you are a cool hacker dude, maybe you can answer a question for me. When I mistype my
password on my freebsd machine it immediately fails, and gives me another prompt. But when I mistype my password on my linux box, it takes darn near a second to realize that there is no match in /etc/passwd. That's a damn long time to wait for the next prompt to come back. Why is
it that linux sucks so bad in this way Mr. Turd Report? I'll hang up now and take your reply off the air.

Thanks!!
--Jeannie from Memphis, TN

Re:Very Good Work Mr. Turd Report (-1)

The Turd Report (527733) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749542)

Why is it that linux sucks so bad in this way Mr. Turd Report?

Hello jeannie. Thanks for your reply. Linux sucks because it is written by dope smoking hippies. They can't even figure out how to operate a stick of deoderant, much less figure out how to program an OS. Most linux 'programmers' would rather wank to Anime than write code that worked correctly. BSD is a fine OS, if you are looking for a free OS. Windows and MacOS is better because it is written by professional programmers who have incentive to write good code. Plus, you get what you pay for.

Take care and Happy Holidays!

Re:Very Good Work Mr. Turd Report (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749580)

Stupid... that's so you can script a brute force login attack. It's known as "security"... a feature sadly lacking from the FreeBSD distribution.

Re:Very Good Work Mr. Turd Report (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749612)

Of course that makes perfect sense, but should
that be the default behavior at the console?
Is someone going to mount a brute-force login
attack while sitting at the terminal? A more
sensible approach would be to check if it is a
login attempt over a network connection...

Re:Very Good Work Mr. Turd Report (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749689)

Is someone going to mount a brute force login attack at the console? Yes.

Check for network connection? Why? It makes little or no difference... if you are constantly misentering your password (and it would need to be a lot to make it a problem), then slow down and take more care. If you slow *all* repeated password attempts you remove the problem all together with no fucking about checking for network connections etc etc.

Ian Holm. (5, Interesting)

dsb3 (129585) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749453)

I find it very interesting the way Ian Holm plays Frodo in the Radio adaptation, and later Bilbo in the movie.

[OT] Did anyone notice..? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749723)

That's kind of neat, but..

Did anyone else notice that Iam Holm in the movie looked a *lot* like J.R.R. Tolkien himself? And that it got more pronounced the older he got, reaching its most striking at rivendell, when Bilbo is showing Frodo "there and back again".. i thought that was kind of cute, especially given the whole bit about Tolkien thinking of Bilbo as self-insertion, and how the maps on Bilbo's desk were reproductions of Tolkien's originals..

I don't know, maybe i just imagined it, and it isn't quite relevant to any thread on the BBC series. I just thought i'd post this because i was curious as to whether anyone else watching the movie had thought the same thing, and this seemed as good a way as any to take a straw poll.

- super ugly ultraman

This could start a trend... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749914)

Perhaps in 20 years, Pierce Brosnan will play Q.

Re:Ian Holm. (1)

CatherineCornelius (543166) | more than 12 years ago | (#2750032)

I find it very interesting the way Ian Holm plays Frodo in the Radio adaptation, and later Bilbo in the movie.

This isn't the only connection. Longstanding Tolkien aficionado Brian Sibley, who co-scripted the BBC radio adaptation, is producing the official guide to the Peter Jackson movies. [hobbit-news.net]

Re:Ian Holm. (1)

mccalli (323026) | more than 12 years ago | (#2751393)

John Le Meserier played Bilbo in the radio version, and he too had been in a Middle-Earth production before. He played Gandalf in the BBC radio Hobbit production.

I personally hoped they'd bring back the person who played Gollum. There's simply no point in anyone else trying - it was done to perfection in this version.

Cheers,
Ian

third? (-1)

The Turd Report (527733) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749459)

C'mon, baby Jesus!

Re:third? (-1)

Fecal Troll Matter (445929) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749598)

Close.
I had corn and peas last night. The turd was pretty easy to let loose, and well, it was pretty loose itself. Apparently I didn't chew very well, and the vegetation ended up flung across my bathroom walls.

Three-peat thwarted :( (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749600)

Some dude who whacks off to the sound of Ian Holm's voice usurped your three-peat...weak.

"dsb3" has been added to my "is gay" list right below Allan "Rocky" Lane (which pushes Topo Gigio to number 746). I'm taking all the limp-wrists out quick-like as soon as the U.S. goes into a state of Martial Law.

AC

Re:Three-peat thwarted :( (-1)

The Turd Report (527733) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749647)

Some dude who whacks off to the sound of Ian Holm's voice usurped your three-peat...weak
Very weak.

"dsb3" has been added to my "is gay" list right below Allan "Rocky" Lane (which pushes Topo Gigio to number 746). I'm taking all the limp-wrists out quick-like as soon as the U.S. goes into a state of Martial Law.
gay doesn't do justice to how gay this guy is. He is 'Call-the-fire-department-this-guy-is-on-fire'-gay .

Ill be lsitening (1)

utdpenguin (413984) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749463)

I ehard a part of this when I was very young and hadn't read the books and had no idea what was going on. But now i shall certainly lsiten and quote along from memory. This is sweet.

time to kill myself (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749466)

i want to die

Re:time to kill myself (1)

Neorefs (538648) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749593)

... This post is a mystery even to me ... And I must admit I'm a madman ...

I want the Radio version of this story (-1)

The Turd Report (527733) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749469)

The Straw House of Pig #1

A Wolf sauntered up a worn pathway. There, he found a hut. A Straw House?
Ok.. The mailbox said "Little Pig #1.." He went up to the door, and said,
"Little Pig, Little Pig, Let Me come In." The Pig inside replied, rather
snidely, "Not by My hairy balls!" The Wolf was taken aback. "What?!" "You
heard Me, Puppy- Fucker." The Wolf stared at the door for a minute. "What
do you mean by that?!" "That's all you can screw, Moronic Dick-head!" The
pig threw back from behind the door. Steam boiled out of the wolf's ears.
He roared, and demolished the straw cottage. Pig #1 Squealed, trying to
run. The Wolf caught him easily, snarled, "I'll 'Puppy-Fucker' You!" and
rammed all 9 inches of his cock home under the pig's tail. 'Damn, but he's
tight!' The Wolf grunted, digging his paws into the Porker's hips,
buggered him savagely. Hmmm, He does have hairy balls, the Wolf thought,
as he rubbed them with his own hairless ball-sac. He chuckled. 'Listen to
that Pig squeal, You'd think somebody was fucking his ass..' He slammed in
to the hilt, and blew his wad. "Shit, I gotta do this more often!" he
muttered, pulling free, and dusting his clothes off continued on down the
path.

The First Little Pig ran all the way to his Brother's Brick House, holding
his butt with both hocks.

The Stick House Of Pig #2

The Wolf came to another House. "Sticks. Will wonders never cease?" He
walked up to the door, and stated "Little Pig, Little Pig, Let Me come
In." "Go Fuck Off, Mangy Fur-Ball" My, My! This Little Pig is as foul
mouthed as the last one. "What did You Say?" he replied. "Read My Lips,"
The Pig said, opening The Mail Slot and shoving his butt against the door.
"Ok.." the Wolf growled, slammed his big dick in through the hole,
impaling the porker. He shoved both fore-paws through the Stick-Door and
clamped them onto the boar's thighs, rotating his hips, pistoning all 9
inches in-and-out of it's hot shitter. "I'll Mangy Fur-Ball You!" he
snarled, enjoying both the Hot, tight hole, and it's owner's squealing. He
gritted his teeth, hosing the porker's intestines with canine cum. When he
finished, The Wolf found the house hadn't survived his lusty usage of the
shoat. So he slowly pulled free, removed what was left of the door from
his wrists, and continued on down the pathway..

The Second Little Pig ran all the way to his Brother's Brick House,
holding His butt with both hocks.

The Brick House Of Pig #3

Pig #3, opened the door. There were his brothers, holding onto their
ass's, and squealing about being buggered by a wolf. He chuckled. Served
them right. They used terrible language, were lazy and usually up to no
good. However they were still his Brothers, and so he let them in. The
next day a large Wolf came strolling down the lane. A beautiful brick
cottage came in sight.. Perhaps a more civilized person lived here. He
knocked on the ornate door, caressing the hand-cut reliefs. "Yes?" The
creature was speechless.. At Last! He cleared his throat. "Little Pig,
Little Pig, Let me come in." He waited expectantly.. "Not by the hair of
my chinny-chin chin.." Elated, he continued. "Then, I'll huff, and puff,
and.." A pair of familiar voices chimed from the door. "Huff and Puff on
this!" they said sticking their corkscrew cocks out through the parcel
slot. Why those ungrateful.. He grabbed the curlicue's, yanking on the
pig-dicks. They shuddered in his grasp. He knelt down and nibbled on one.
'Pretty good..' He licked on the other. Then sticking them in his mouth
like a man trying to smoke 2 cigarettes at once, the canine started
sucking hungrily. "Cum, You little Bastaaa...!" The third pig had sneaked
out the back door, expecting to ambush the wolf. But, seeing the him
pawing on his brother's nuts, and slobbering over their dicks, the animal
got other ideas..

He dropped his overalls and jumped on the doggish hindquarters, screwing
his erection into the hot butt, The Wolf, now getting it from both ends,
howled in ecstasy. The two smaller porkers grabbed the doorframe, cumming
so hard they almost passed out. The third Pig, being the eldest, and the
horniest, humped the Wolf with a will. The canine, having sucked The
Little Pigs nuts dry, was really getting off having a cock literally
screwing his ass, but good! "So, You like this.." Hocks grabbed his ears.
The Wolf moaned, as cum spurted into his guts. "Good. So do I." The hog
pulled free, snapped a collar around the furred neck. Come on, Slave, We
have 2 Pigs to punish.." The Wolf nodded, moaning as his new Master
stroked his erection.

The End

You can get them on CD from ZBS (5, Informative)

Pretender R*S (8816) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749476)

ZBS and American/Canadian Radio drama company also resells the LotR CDs in the US. So you can watch it anytime you want and at $70 for 13 CDs is a pretty decent deal.

http://216.122.251.79/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Scre en =PROD&Store_Code=ZF&Product_Code=LORD&Category_Cod e=KFCD

They also have the Hobbit and their orignal productions of Jack Flanders and Ruby the Galatic Gumshoe.

Re:You can get them on CD from ZBS - wrong URL (2, Informative)

Pretender R*S (8816) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749487)

well just go to http://www.zbs.org [zbs.org] select Childrens Favourites, CDs and it will be listed there. The URL didn't seem to work correctly.

Re:You can get them on CD from ZBS (3, Interesting)

nomadic (141991) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749521)

Amazon has it for $50.

Re:You can get them on CD from ZBS (1)

Hes Nikke (237581) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749608)

/me can't find it on amazon.com :(

/me wonders how nomadic found it...

Re:You can get them on CD from ZBS (1)

Hes Nikke (237581) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749653)

or i could just scroll down :D

you may ignore above...

Re:You can get them on KaZaa/Morpheus (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749522)

You can also get it on KaZaa/Morpheus in MP3 format. It is quite listenable (digitised at 64Kbps), but beware, the episodes aren't all labeled correctly.

However with perseverance and unmetered access, you can get all 300MB+ of it.

Re:You can get them on CD from ZBS (2)

Fesh (112953) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749538)

Wow... People who have actually heard of Jack Flanders... What an odd day this is.

Re:You can get them on CD from ZBS (1)

aka-ed (459608) | more than 12 years ago | (#2750059)


Or one might download the whole lot from Usenet. Someone started posting the series in alt.binaries.sounds.audiobooks around the 20th.

Unless, of course, you consider that stealing.

Re:You can get them on CD from ZBS (1)

Xanlexian (122112) | more than 12 years ago | (#2751392)

Not sure how "Nationwide" these folks are, but at 'Sams' (Membership warehouse, kinda like Costco) -- I picked up this box set around Halloween for $37 (plus tax). The sticker on the box said it was indeed a $70 item. I'd suggest getting it there, if possible.

I've ripped them all to MP3, fit all the episodes on a single CD, and the kids and I listen to them at night. I've already read the LoTR books to them.

Shoot your teevee!

--Xan

Ogg Vorbis streams (5, Informative)

AirLace (86148) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749479)

For those Free Software enthusiasts of you out there who don't want to install RealPlayer, the BBC is trialling [bbc.co.uk] Ogg Vorbis [vorbis.com] live audio streams. The BBC Radio 4 stream can be found here [bbc.co.uk] .
If you use this service, please take the time [mailto] to tell them that you appreciate their support of open standards as the service is still tentative.

Re:Ogg Vorbis streams (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749515)

For those Free Software enthusiasts of you out there who don't want to install RealPlayer, the BBC is trialling [bbc.co.uk] [bbc.co.uk] Ogg Vorbis [vorbis.com] [vorbis.com] live audio streams.

Oh, so we can download a reliable .ogg player instead instead, is it? Wherefrom exactly...?

Re:Ogg Vorbis streams (3, Informative)

Fweeky (41046) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749523)

I use http://www.freeamp.org/ [freeamp.org]

Re:Ogg Vorbis streams (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2750362)

Besides being a boneheaded fascist, do you realize that the IQ tests are set to have half the people under 100 and half over? So the scoring would be readjusted.

Anyway, you'd be dead, dumbass.

Re:Ogg Vorbis streams (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749525)

Read the instructions on the page. Vorbis is supported natively by XMMS, and with plugins by Windows Media player and Winamp.

Re:Ogg Vorbis streams (2)

reaper20 (23396) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749571)

both winamp and xmms have .ogg plugins. .ogg support even back when has always been more reliable than real(anything).

Re:Ogg Vorbis streams (2, Informative)

goul (41924) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749837)

Try JOrbis [jcraft.com] , its pure java, will run from within a web browser (I've tested the BBC streams from within Mozilla) and works with proxy servers.

Re:Ogg Vorbis streams (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749923)

Yeah, but I think he wants to listen to it TODAY, Not tomorrow when the Java VM has finished loading and the java vorbis code has finished decoding it.

Re:Ogg Vorbis streams (1)

goul (41924) | more than 12 years ago | (#2750019)

At the risk of being trolled .....

FUD.

As long as the browser being used supports Java the applet download is around 115K significantly less than installing Real Player etc.

It's a streaming client happily decoding on the fly, I've used it for listening to content from the BBC for three months and found it reliable throughout.

Re:Ogg Vorbis streams (1)

Julz (9310) | more than 12 years ago | (#2750022)

Hey I just went to that stream and it asked me if I wanted to save the stream pointer file. So I told it too open it using /usr/bin/xmms (that's where XMMS is on my system) and hey presto streaming talkback from the BBC.
XMMS had this support from install of Mandrake 8.1.

Easy!

Re:Ogg Vorbis streams (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749849)

There was a time when the BBC wouldn't consider anything else but open formats, but then again there was a time when the also BBC stood for quality and professionalism, not just in the UK but worldwide.

Now they're just destroying themselves in a quest to emulate the crappy commercial broadcasters. Why they think I'd want to watch "Eastenders", a sad soap set in some grotty, rundown, crime ridden part of London I don't know. Maybe they I think I might enjoy the portrayal of the sad and pathetic lifes' put together by a bunch of intellectually bankrupt script writers who are resentful because they couldn't cut it with the 'big boys' in Hollywood or even Bollywood for that matter. This crappy drama is now on every single night of the week! If they keep wondering why the US sitcom writers are eating them alive then the above is the answer.

BBC Radio remained unscathed until recently, in 2002 the full assault of junk and low standards will begin, they're already planning a new network of mediocre and niche [bbc.co.uk] stations filled with junk and of low overall quality, and of course they will bring down the longstanding decent stations with it. They have already started the Audio/Optimod compression on a few of the national networks, killing the little dynamic range FM ever had.

It's good, buy it (3, Informative)

nivelo9 (409455) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749482)

My dad just picked it up through a mail order catalog, and it's really well done.
If you want to buy it, there are two versions on Amazon:
this is the more expensive (US$56) "library edition" [amazon.com] which i suspect is no different from this US$49 version [amazon.com] .

Full LOTR mp3s here, ALL OF IT (1, Informative)

cb0y (311811) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749484)

http://www.saiyajinfury.com/lotr/

download now.

***GOATSE.CX post*** (-1)

The Turd Report (527733) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749545)

Oh my God. Don't click that link. It is a picture of some man's asshole! I think I am going to vomit.

Thanks dude (1)

gvonk (107719) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749947)

I am slurping them off my parental AOL acct. You'll probably see a ton of AOL IPs hitting your server from ppl with the relatives...

Re:Full LOTR mp3s here, ALL OF IT (1)

Hes Nikke (237581) | more than 12 years ago | (#2751396)

i'm not sure but i think some of that is the BBC version, and some is the US version! i haven't listened to it all the way (setting up an MP3 CD for the car) but i don't think there is a british accent all the way through! :D

Nice story (1)

Alcimedes (398213) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749493)

I burned these to CD's for my long drives between home and school I used to take. Very entertaining. They can be found online pretty easily, and burn nicely to CD's.

Takes a long time to go through 13 CD's worth of story.

just like the BBC... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749494)

trying to leech off a movie just cuz' its number one at the time. [imdb.com]
I predict it'll be a shoddily put-together broadcast in black and white[1] with phoney British accents to make it sound like Middle Earth.
Yeah, like that can compare to the years of Elf Training [juice.net] [2] Lord of the Rings stars got.

LOSERS! Go experience the movie again rather than hear some shoddy imitation.

-Gonandalf

[1] "black and white" radio is like AM, but with only two kinds of amplitude...

[2] relevant quote:

New Zealand director Jackson was also greatly impressed by the 24-year-old's innate ability to speak the Elvish language. Tyler quite happily drifts into the imaginary guttural singsong tones she learned for the role, sounding somewhat Danish and Viking-like. She took it all rather seriously.

"The first couple of lines I had to memorise were hard, and then it got easier and I really enjoyed it," she admits. "One day I had to shoot three scenes, all in Elvish, and I'd have to take it in stages, because if I memorised it all at once I'd get confused. After we did it for a while, it became more natural. The thing that makes Elvish hard is that there isn't anything to grab hold of in terms of the rhythms."

Re:just like the BBC... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749504)

that was a joke. get it? gonandalf, haha, i crack me up.

Superior Radio Dramatisation (5, Insightful)

Gumshoe (191490) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749498)

I bought the box set of the LotR radio play many years ago and
have enjoyed it many times. One of the landmark radio
dramatisations featuring a superb cast: Ian Holm as Frodo (who
played Bilbo in the Jackson movie); Sir Michael Horden as
Gandalf; John LeMesseurier as Bilbo; and Robert Stephens as
Aragorn. It also features Peter Woodthorpe as Gollum, who
incidentally also played that character in the animated movie.

A matter of opinion of course, but I consider it a superior
adaptation than the recent film. While Jackson's effort is very,
very good, it (through necessity) betrays the book in many ways
resulting in a superficial version of the story. The BBC
dramatisation on the other hand, leaves the subtleties of the
story intact, resulting in a more rounded experience. The only
ommission of note is the absence, as usual, of Tom Bombadil.

If you have never heard a radio play, do yourself a favour and
have a listen to this.

Re:Superior Radio Dramatisation (1)

yota (165006) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749759)

>The BBC
>dramatisation on the other hand, leaves the subtleties of the
>story intact, resulting in a more rounded experience. The only
>ommission of note is the absence, as usual, of Tom Bombadil.

Why as usual?

Andrea

Re:Superior Radio Dramatisation (2)

Gumshoe (191490) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749870)

Because he wasn't in this Radio play, nor the
live action movie, nor the animated movie.

Poor old Tom. No one loves him :-)

Re:Superior Radio Dramatisation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749975)

And yet he is the creator of all things. Maybe he is happy to stay in the shadows, just watching things?

Re:Superior Radio Dramatisation (2)

plunge (27239) | more than 12 years ago | (#2750960)

Of course, a lot of other character, some far more interesting (in my opinion) that usually get cut as well: Gildor for one. The Wildmen. The two nasty orcs that Frodo and Sam eavesdrop on in Mordor. Fatty Bolger. And Bill Ferny getting clocked by an apple (though in the movie, Pippin gets clocked by one...) Bombadill is a fun diversion, but the Barrowights are far more important to the story arc and overall history, and they're always missing as well. Which means that no adaption can really make sense of Merry's deed towards the end of the book. We never find out where he gets his sword, or why its so powerful.

Re:Superior Radio Dramatisation (2)

nagora (177841) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749863)

While Jackson's effort is very, very good, it (through necessity) betrays the book in many ways resulting in a superficial version of the story.

With 9 hours to play with why does the movie have to betray the book as opposed to abridging it with care?

I'm really getting tired of people saying what a great version the new movie is and then going on to say what a mess of the books it's made. What's going on (I haven't seen it yet)?

TWW

Re:Superior Radio Dramatisation (2, Insightful)

Gumshoe (191490) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749943)

It is a great movie but no movie maker can possibly examine every
nuance of the book. It hasn't "made a mess" of it, and betray is
perhaps too harsh a word, but watching the movie and reading the
book are two different experiences. Listening to the radio play
offers another.

If you can imagine the book as a three-dimensional object, the
film takes a two-dimensional view of the story, the radio play a
different two-dimensional view. However, IMO, the latter's
interpretation captures the more important elements of the book.
In other words, the experience offered by the written word is
more similar to that of the radio play than of the film.

This isn't meant as a critique of either work.

Re:Superior Radio Dramatisation (1)

knobboy (113080) | more than 12 years ago | (#2750703)

My main complaint is that scenes and conversations were added to the film that detracted from Tolkien's original material. I think the main problem with the movie is they decided to "show off" some of their CG graphics kung-fu, instead of staying closer to the book. Spoilers below, you've been warned:
1. The whole Arwen-substituted-for-Glorfindel mess. If they wanted to show her in Rivendell and have the talk with Aragorn, that would have been fine (still more than is in the book). But they have her traipsing around, sneaking up on Aragorn and then riding against the Nine. Which leads to...
2. Frodo stood off the Nine at the Ford by himself, not with the aid of any elf, in the book. Much more powerful in my opinion
3. The cave troll in Moria. As someone else mentioned, it's an orc chieftain that stabs Frodo, not the cave troll. All we see of the cave troll in the book is an arm and a leg poking through the door. The rest of the encounter in Moria is different as explained by another poster (Gandalf doesn't try to hold the door, the ceiling of the chamber doesn't come down, they get surrounded by orcs that don't immediately kill them for some inexplicable reason, etc.). Also no dwarf bodies are found when they open the door to get into Moria. Gimli seemed like he would find Balin at home in Moria, I don't think he was that upbeat in the book.
4. On their escape from the Shire to the Buckleberry ferry, a Black Rider is chasing Frodo as the other three get on the ferry. Damn slow horses they have in Mordor, you would think he could have run Frodo down pretty easily.
5. Saruman's and Gandalf's Twister battle in Orthanc. Say what?
6. The whole end of the movie deviated from the book. Boromir never returns to the rest of the Fellowship to tell them that he tried to get the ring from Frodo. Aragorn talks to Frodo and Frodo tells them he is going to Mordor by himself. Pippin and Merry see Frodo as he is leaving and one of them, I guess for the benefit of the slow people in the audience, says "he's leaving." When Sam gets back to their camp, he doesn't see the "empty" canoe leaving by itself, since Frodo is not wearing the Ring. After Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli find Boromir, they return to camp and see that Frodo and Sam have just reached the other side of the river. In fact, one of the things that I thought would annoy people is that part of the Two Towers is told in the first movie since we see Boromir die. However, I think this is probably a better spot to end the movie than the book. I just had to explain to my wife after the movie - "Oops, I guess I should have had you read more than just the first book!"
7. At some point after Frodo was attacked at Weathertop, they were in the glen with the three trolls that were turned to stone in The Hobbit. I knew this scene would be in the movie based on a review somewhere and my wife noticed the trolls, but darned if I didn't. I don't know that a little dialogue here would have hurt so much, especially since Bilbo is telling the story to some hobbit children at his party.
8. At one point in Moria, Frodo thinks they are being followed by Gollum. Gandalf says yea, and you even see Gollum. In the book, you get references that Gollum is about, but Frodo doesn't speak his fears until they are out of Lothlorien.
9. At the Council of Elrond Gimli tries to destroy the Ring with his axe. Also, the Council seemed much more argumentative than the book. I think the film was trying to hint that the Ring was exerting its influence on the members there. Also Boromir's vision is not mentioned and there is not much background on Legolas or Gimli.

I think that sums up my main annoyances with the movie. Overall, it was a really good film if you had never read the book. It just took some liberties with the story that I couldn't understand and added material that could have been cut in favor of a "better" storyline.

Re:Superior Radio Dramatisation (2)

TopShelf (92521) | more than 12 years ago | (#2751462)

Let's have some perspective - points 1-8 are so minor, that if those are main complaints of a book-to-movie translation, then I think Peter Jackson has triumphed mightily. I mean come on, you're pissed that they omitted Glorfindel?

That said, I agree that the council of Elrond could have been handled a little better. Explaining Boromir's vision would have both established him better as a character (his name isn't even mentioned until they're well out of Rivendell) as well has helped develop Aragorn's storyline.

Re:Superior Radio Dramatisation (2)

Restil (31903) | more than 12 years ago | (#2751179)

Tom Bombadil is the only character in the story that can be safely removed entirely without affecting the rest of the story. Two events which happen during the time we spend with Tom: Frodo tries the ring for the first time, and we encounter the barrow wights, where frodo is once again tempted AND the four hobbits obtain their swords. However, these are plot elements that can safely be removed without upsetting the story.

The best part of the radio plays is they include a great many of the songs that are included in the books, along with characters expressing some real heartfelt emotions.

-Restil

Play with my webcams and turn on my lights at http://206.54.177.105 [206.54.177.105]

A most Dangerous Game (-1)

The Turd Report (527733) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749505)

During Christmas vacation of 1974, my father flew us all to Disney
World by route of Tampa, Florida. Ignorant of geography, it did not
occur to me that Tampa was out of the way to Disney World until my
father drove the rented van to the gates of MacDill Air Force Base.
Military personnel met me there and escorted me into the base TOP
SECRET high tech mind control conditioning facility for "behavioral
modification" programming. This was the first in what became a
routine series of mind control testing and/or programming sessions
on government installations that I would endure throughout my
Project Monarch victimization.

Whether I was in a military, NASA, or government building, the
procedure for maintaining me under total mind control remained
consistent with Project Monarch requirements. This included prior
physical and/or psychological trauma; sleep, food, and water
deprivation; high voltage electric shock; and hypnotic and/or
harmonic programming of specific memory compartments/ personalities.
The high tech equipment and methodisms I endured from that time on
gave the U.S. government absolute control of my mind and life. I had
been literally driven out of my conscious mind and existed only
through my programmed subconscious. I lost my free will, ability to
reason, and could not think to question anything that was happening
to me. I could only do as I was told.

In the summer of 1975, my family drove all the way from Michigan to
the Teton Mountains of Wyoming. I was ordered to ride in the back
storage area of the family Chevy Suburban since I was forbidden to
associate or communicate with my brothers and sister. So I dissociated
into books, or into the metaphorical, hypnotic suggestions from my
father and tranced deeper as I watched the prairie's seemingly endless
sea of "amber waves of grain" streak past my window. Once when we
stopped at a gas station, my father took me inside to show me a
stuffed "jackalope" mounted on the wall. Due to my tranced, dissociative
state and high suggestibility level, I believed it was indeed a cross
between a jack rabbit and antelope. It was 100+ degrees in the Badlands
when it cooled down at night. The intense heat of the day accentuated
my ever increasing thirst. My father was physically preparing me though
water deprivation for the intense tortures and programming I would endure
in Wyoming.

Dick Cheney, then White House Chief of Staff to President Ford, later
Secretary of Defense to President George Bush, documented member of the
Council on Foreign relations (CFR), and Presidential hopeful for 1996,
was originally Wyoming's only Congressman. Dick Cheney was the reason my
family had traveled to Wyoming where I endured yet another form of
brutality -- his version of "A Most Dangerous Game," or human hunting.

It is my understanding now that A Most Dangerous Game was devised to
condition military personnel in survival and combat maneuvers. Yet it was
used on me and other slaves known to me as a means of further conditioning
the mind to the realization there was "no place to hide," as well as
traumatize the victim for ensuing programming. It was my experience over
the years that A Most Dangerous Game had numerous variations on the
primary theme of being stripped naked and turned loose in the wilderness
while being hunted by men and dogs. In reality, all "wilderness" areas
were enclosed in secure military fencing whereby it was only a matter of
time until I was caught, repeatedly raped, and tortured.

Dick Cheney had an apparent addiction to the "thrill of the sport." He
appeared obsessed with playing A Most Dangerous Game as a means of
traumatizing mind control victims, as well as to satisfy his own perverse
sexual kinks. My introduction to the game occurred upon arrival at the
hunting lodge near Greybull, Wyoming, and it physically and psychologically
devastated me. I was sufficiently traumatized for Cheney's programming, as
I stood naked in his hunting lodge office after being hunted down and
caught. Cheney was talking as he paced around me, "I could stuff you and
mount you like a jackalope and call you a two legged dear. Or I could
stuff you with this (he unzipped his pants to reveal his oversized penis)
right down your throat, and then mount you. Which do you prefer?"

Blood and sweat became mixed with the dirt on my body and slid like mud
down my legs and shoulder. I throbbed with exhaustion and pain as I stood
unable to think to answer such a question. "Make up your mind," Cheney
coaxed. Unable to speak, I remained silent. "You don't get a choice,
anyway. I make up your mind for you. That's why you're here. For me to
make you a mind, and make you mine/mind. You lost your mind a long time
ago. Now I'm going to give you one. Just like the Wizard (of Oz) gave
Scarecrow a brain, the Yellow Brick Road led you here to me. You've 'come
such a long, long way' for your brain, and I will give you one."

The blood reached my shoes and caught my attention. Had I been further
along in my programming, I perhaps would never have noticed such a thing
or had the capability to think to wipe it away. But so far, I had only
been to MacDill and Disney World for government/military programming.
At last, when I could speak, I begged, "If you don't mind, can I please
use your bathroom?"

Cheney's face turned red with rage. He was on me in an instant, slamming
my back into the wall with one arm across my chest and his hand on my
throat, choking me while applying pressure to the cartorid artery in my
neck with his thumb. His eyes bulged and he spit as he growled, "If you
don't mind me, I will kill you. I could kill you -- Kill you -- with my
bare hands. You're not the first and you won't be the last. I'll kill
you any time I goddamn well please." He flung me on the cot-type bed that
as behind me. There he finished taking his rage out on me sexually.

On the long trip back to Michigan, I lay in a heap behind the seats of
the Suburban, nauseated and hurting from Cheney's brutality and high
voltage tortures, plus the whole Wyoming experience. My father stopped
by the waterfalls flowing through the Tetons to "wash my brain" of the
memory of Cheney. I could barely walk through the woods to the falls for
the process as instructed, despite having learned my lessons well from
Cheney on following orders.

The next year when our "annual" trip to Disney World rolled around, my
father drove, pulling his new Holiday Rambler Royale International trailer.
My father dropped me off en route at the Kennedy Space Center in Titusville,
Florida where I was subjected to my first NASA programming. From then on, I
was "obsessed" with following the "Yellow Brick Road" to Nashville,
Tennessee. Moving to Nashville was all I could talk about. If anyone asked
me the question I could not think to ask myself "Why?", I would respond by
reiterating it was something "I had to do."

copies? (0, Troll)

stiefvater (101844) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749512)

i know piracy is bad, and all -

but could someone make copies of these?

i just want to "time shift" is all.

-k

If you get the CD's be sure to get the BBC version (4, Informative)

Kevinv (21462) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749519)

There's also a set of CD's from an American dramatization that isn't nearly as good.

The BBC version is awesome.

Kevin

Re:If you get the CD's be sure to get the BBC vers (1)

hazem (472289) | more than 12 years ago | (#2750010)

I would have to disagree that American version is not as good. They are both very good, and have different qualities that for each are quite nice.

1) The American (Mind's Eye Productions) does not omit the Bombadil sequence. The BBC version does. This is important to me because I really like Bombadil. The scenes with the Barrow Wights explain how they get their swords.

2) The BBC version has English accents, which probably sounds more authentic.

3) The BBC version "unravels" the story line to make it more linear. The American version relies more on "flashback" and story-telling, which follows the flow of the books.

4) The BBC version does have Strider telling the story of (oh, I forget her name) the elf that gave up her immortality to live and die with the mortal man she loves - giving a nice foreshadowing of Strider and Arwyn's situation.

5) Of course, the BBC version gives you another hour, which is cool.

They are both excellent, and after listening to both of them several times (I'm a LOTR AND Book-on -tape junkie - don't ask how many times I've listened to Harry Potter on tape). I cannot say that one is better than the other.

stream audio (1)

tomaasz (5800) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749539)

Digital audio streaming is good, but why not record the analog broadcast and digitize it later?

Anyway, I have this in MP3 already - it's over 400 megs - I'm not sure what bitrate it is, but the quality is pretty good.

VBR would have been a better choice for speech though (this is fixed bitrate). So if BBC is testing OGG/Vorbis, it is a good thing.

Re:stream audio (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749891)

You can already get Digital Radio [bbc.co.uk] in the UK and record the transport stream directly to disk, you end up with the native MP2 format just as it left Radio House, however lately it hasn't been leaving in a very good state, the best you can hope for now is 128kps joint stereo, or even 80k mono in some circumstances. When it was running at 192kbps it was great, but that ended a few days ago.

at what time? (1)

Hes Nikke (237581) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749560)

Saturday 14.30 - 15.30 from 5 January 2002 GMT

or... 6:30 AM PST... oh boy! now i won't even be able to sleep in an the weekends! :D

Beware! (4, Funny)

John Harrison (223649) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749581)

I borrowed the 13-disc set from a friend. I ripped it to mp3 so I could listen to it without having to swap discs.

So I sat down to work one day and fired up the mp3 player. Two hours later I realized that I had done NO WORK! I had simply sat there basking in the glory of this production.

I usually listen to music when I work at home and don't find that distracting at all.

Unfortunately I also found this Lord of the Rings things completely addicting. I found myself looking for excuses to listen to it. Luckily it is only 13 hours long.

I think that I should have saved this for commuting and caused some accidents.

The old Farts are ? - cash in baby baby-oh ! (0, Troll)

bushboy (112290) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749595)

The photo seems to depict three 'thespian' types.

They have names I have never heard of b4 ? - Am I supposed to know who they are ?

Cash in baby baby-ho !
Oh, sha lala - do the funky dwarf dance grandad !
We three hobbits of e-commerce are !

Cough, erm, getting back to things - I think it's Xmas !

Happy Xmas everyone, and a Most Prosperous New Year !

:-}

Re:The old Farts are ? - cash in baby baby-oh ! (1)

Hes Nikke (237581) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749614)

The photo seems to depict three 'thespian' types.

They have names I have never heard of b4 ? - Am I supposed to know who they are ?


you don't reconise Bilbo from the movie?! i spotted him right off the bat! (hint: he played frodo in the BBC production)

Re:The old Farts are ? - cash in baby baby-oh ! (0, Flamebait)

bushboy (112290) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749625)

yeah, well, the radio production is total and utter crap - a couple of 'thespian' sounding pratts. No balls at all.

Re:The old Farts are ? - cash in baby baby-oh ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749851)

I think you'll find that is what's called "acting".

Re:The old Farts are ? - cash in baby baby-oh ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749861)

Are you supposed to know who they are? Not necessarily, although all three are fine actors (arguably even great ones). You are, however, displaying a tyupically N American insularity - just because they've never appeared in a Hollywood movie or on US tv doesn't mean they're not terrific actors - in fact it tends to indicate that they are. You'd have to search long and hard in Hollywood to find anyone who is even fit to be mentioned in the same breath as, for example, Sir Michael Hordern.

The return of ...an old friend. (1)

Kirruth (544020) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749603)

I was an avid listener when I was 14 (back in 1981), and will be again. Great that it's now being streamed to the world - imagine that, audio being streamed to a global computer network with hundreds of millions of people connected to it. We live in miraculous times.

Re:The return of ...an old friend. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749715)

While half the world lives on less than a dollar a day. Save the self-admiration.

i just saw the movie yesterday..... (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749605)

could anyone explain the significance of the giant flaming pussy that kept appearing? i thought they did a good job in creating a whole new world but i hate elijah wood. i just cant trust a hero with curly hair like that (exception: superman). and elijah wood is absolutley the last person i would have cast for that role. i thought the colors were kind of drab and washed out compared to other movies like cthd and ep1. i never read the book but i wasnt aware that the hobbits were supposed to be some kind of irish race only more leprechanish. im looking forward to the new star wars a lot more than the new lotr. thats for dang sure.

Re:i just saw the movie yesterday..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749945)

Does LOTR have muppets? I hate muppets.
I refuse to see Phantom Menace because it has stupid muppets.

i'm afraid it has to be said... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749606)

1. Christmas is a joke.

2. Slashdot is a joke.

3. America is the Evil Empire of the day.

Here is what I suggest as a New Year's Resolution for all Slashdotters.

EITHER bow to capitalism for the evil that it is, stop preaching the merits of socialist (Free) software and objecting to the power of big business;

OR finally shed the whole spoilt rich kid mentality, stop demanding that weapons be thrown at all the poorest nations because someone shit in your back yard, and show a bit of love for your fellow man.

Happy holidays to you all. Please take the time to think, not to get fat and drunk

MP3s (0)

mikeporter (526673) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749607)

I have all 13 in mp3 format on 1 cd. Each mp3 is roughly 25mb and all 13 total 337mb.

Closest to the books I've found.. (5, Informative)

Restil (31903) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749613)

Between the two LOTR Movies and this radio adaption, the radio plays by far stick to the story line, almost to the letter. Obviously they have to abridge it somewhat, but the most important parts of the story are maintained in excellent detail.

While not disappointed with the new movie, I was somewhat dismayed by their attempt to rush more important aspects of the story and drag out those parts that play little role. LOTR is, more than anything, about the growth of the characters. How these small, fat, lazy hobbits go on an adventure and when they return they run the evil out of their homeland. How a dirty rugged old ranger ends up becoming king, and how a dwarf and an elf, both with much inbred conflict with each other, manage to become lifelong friends.

The cave troll did not take 3 minutes to dispatch in the book. It was an orc chieftan who skewered frodo, not a troll. Frantically, the party ran from that room, carrying Frodo (whom they believed to be dead) with them. Gandalf attempts to seal the door with a spell, only the Balrog fights him back with magic and almost destroys him. All this was missed. Instead they have to spend precious time on the character development of Arwen, who doesn't get more than 5 minutes in the books anyways.

And at the end, we don't have the troublesome Aragorn. In the books, he was distraught because he didn't know what path to follow, and then everybody gets separated, Boromir dies, all the hobbits disappear, and the fate of frodo and sam is unknown. Aragorn is forced to make a decision on who they follow and choose to pursue Merry and Pippin.

Galadriel warned against betrayal in the party. Yet there was no such warning. Oh, the book hinted about Boromir's desire for the ring, but up until the very minute he tried to steal it, Frodo only thought that Boromir wanted them to keep it safe at Minas Tirith, and not to walk it into the enemy's hand. However, the rest of the party did not desire it so, and none of the rest of them were a risk. This is shown most prominantly in the "Samwise the Strong" segue in the third novel when Sam is tempted by the power of the ring while he holds it for a while, and yet manages to overcome it with barely any thought on the matter.

But anyways.. No need to overanalyze this. The radio plays are GOOD. Listen to them if you can.

-Restil

Play with my webcams and turn on my lights at http://206.54.177.105" [206.54.177.105]

a little shocked (4, Interesting)

plunge (27239) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749930)

I was a little shocked as to how the movie decided to spoil just about every element of uncertainty with a character simply outright SAYING something that was supposed to be discovered later on. The radio shows were far more adriot at keeping things suspenseful.

Spoilers!!!!!

-Gandalf simply TELLS Frodo that Biblo has gone to live with the elves: in the books this is a wonderful surprise to Frodo.
-Gandalf learns of the Palantir early, for no reason, instead of discovering it at the end of The Two Towers
-Galadriel simply tells (or pretty darn strongly implies) to everyone that Boromir will try to take the Ring
-As mentioned, Aragorn feels no confusion as to what to do about Frodo.

I felt that most of this simply drained excitement and mystery out of the plot for no puropse (in most cases WASTING time instead saving it, by requiring more exposition). Maybe they had some reason, but I can't see it yet. I also thought that for a movie short on time, spending whole minutes in slow-mo reaction shots was a bit silly (Frodo getting stabbed by the troll for like five minutes, Sam drowing in slow motion) as well as deadening the pace at crucial moments. Despite Peter Jackson being totally non-Hollywood, it was SOOOO Hollywood.

The radio plays, of course, had no such temptation to cliche, which is interesting: are there really as many major radio-show cliches as there are movie cliches?

Re:a little shocked (1)

discogravy (455376) | more than 12 years ago | (#2751084)

QUOTE:
-Gandalf learns of the Palantir early, for no reason, instead of discovering it at the end of The Two Towers

-Galadriel simply tells (or pretty darn strongly implies) to everyone that Boromir will try to take the Ring
/QUOTE

in TT (and later in ROTK,) Gandalf (when telling everyone about the palatir, esp merry and pippin, says he 'long suspected' that they were around. I saw this more as a good time to foreshadow the palantir's role in ROTK w/ Denethor -- when Gandalf and Saruman start talking about them in FOTR (movie) Gandalf plainly says "they're not all accounted for and can't be trusted"; this is more of a setup for Denethor's scene and Gandalf's expository there.

Galadriel (in the movie,) only tells Frodo outright. The movie can't give that third-person-omniscient point of view ("Boromir thought...") that the book can without doing cheesy voice-overs, so by necessity, I think they felt they had to hammer the point home that Boromir was not to be trusted.

The only things about the movie that i was annoyed by were the total omission of Bombadil (although, what else could Jackson have done?) and the complete fucking of Arwen and Aragorn's roles.

I would have enjoyed more of the incidental dialogue (although they did a fantastic job with it) like Gandalf's "A Balrog! what cursed luck! and I am already tired..." and the whole Bill Ferny thing in Bree...

The sound sucked (someone tell the music guy he's not the fucking star,) and Galadriel's voice during her test ("...set up an EVIL QUEEN!") was just too fucking stupid. But these are minor quibbles and the movie is GREAT.

Eat SHIT LOT_R (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749615)

How FUCKING STUPID. This fucking movie looks so fucking stupid in the previews. Can I turn LOT_R News for Faggots off? Stupid fucking shit. Go watch Star Trek...at least that isn't (supposed to be) fucking magic and queer superstitions...like fucking ISLAM and CHRISITIANITY and all the other pagan shit written to subdue the poor back in the fucking 0's or some shit like that.!

Joesph Campbell (2)

HiyaPower (131263) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749639)

I would also reccomend to anyone that they take a listen to the Moyers/Campbell series or read Campbell's book "Hero with a Thousand Faces". The Trilogy is one of the finest of the "quest" gendre that has been produced. It is interesting to disect it in the light of Campbell's exposition of the mythology of the quest. Everything is there: The quest, the companions, the wise old man, the great evil, etc. Aside from being just plain good reading, the Trilogy says many things about who we are and where we want to go in this creation.

Re:Joesph Campbell (1)

nagora (177841) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749854)

Note also that Campbell was as nutty as a fruitcake when it comes to interpretation of myths and folk stories; the introduction to "Hero with a Thousand Faces" is still laugh-out-loud funny even though I've read it four or five times. In the rest of the book, however, the joke wears a bit thin and you really wonder how an adult could ever have written such transparent tripe in all seriousness.

A real blast from the Victorian age of Freudian mumbo-jumbo "psychology".

TWW

Re:Joesph Campbell (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749962)

George Lucas is apparently a great believer is Campbell's analysis. It neatly explains The Phantom Menace.

Re:Joesph Campbell (2)

MrResistor (120588) | more than 12 years ago | (#2751204)

It neatly explains all of Star Wars, which was specifically created as a modern realisation of Campbell's analysis, according to Lucas.

found them on gnutella (0, Troll)

flaez (471571) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749678)


i just found & downloaded an audio stream
of the complete bbc production (170M);

for once, gnutella yielded satisfactory
results. I also found the complete text
of LotR, Hobbit, Silmarillion and UT.

still, I am trying to collect the 13
mp3 files and will be sharing them on
gnutella once I get them together

These are spectacular (1)

nickm (1468) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749740)

I recommend buying them on CD. I have the 13 CD set, and I keep them ripped to rc2 ogg vorbis files on my laptop. Great stuff, and it only takes up 340MB. Vorbis is beyond leet.

Radio (4, Informative)

Aztech (240868) | more than 12 years ago | (#2749803)

If you want to listen over the net make sure you listen to the Ogg [bbc.co.uk] stream because it's higher quality than their Real streams, and Linux friendly.

As a nice Christmas gesture the BBC cut the bitrates down across the board on their terrestrial Digital Radio (DAB [bbc.co.uk] ) service a couple of days ago, LoTR's will be on Radio 4 [bbc.co.uk] which is often found at 80kbps Mono MP2 now, instead of 192kbps stereo, the FM signal is now of superior quality.

A note to all those people who are interested in buying a DAB tuner (all 3 of you!), don't bother, unless they resurrect the bitrates you might as well just get a decent FM tuner, the quality will be better. Another decent technology ruined.

Re:Radio (2, Informative)

DSTA (544411) | more than 12 years ago | (#2750375)

Perhaps interesting for folks in Europe: Radio 4 is also available via Astra satellite, details here [bbc.co.uk] .

Boner to go! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2749957)

How happy it will be for Trekkie to port his boner cd with him around.
Happy day for Trekkie, like Christmas and Lord Of The Ring.

LOTR FOTR (1)

tomaasz (5800) | more than 12 years ago | (#2750073)

in Czech, the word "lotr" means "rogue" and "fotr" means "dad".

so the first movie should be called "bad dad"

Save them?! (2)

abe ferlman (205607) | more than 12 years ago | (#2750573)

Are you seriously suggesting we just tape the radio broadcast? How will the artists be compensated? How will we prevent further unauthorized copying? At least the RIAA will get a cut of the blank tapes, but this is most irresponsible.

Don't tape the radio. You don't own anything you hear.

I bought the whole set (1)

thecoolbean (454867) | more than 12 years ago | (#2750860)

Last month I bought the whole BBC 13 CD set at Sam's for about $40.00 It is great. If you REALLY want a see if you can't come across the set.

ISBN 0-553-47228-3 (2, Informative)

Mike_L (4266) | more than 12 years ago | (#2751139)

A few years ago my parents bought this audio series for me on cassette. It is excellent. I've listened to it a few times and it kept me awake on the long drive home for the holidays. I must say that this radio-series is a lot truer to Tolkien's books than the new movie. Also all voices have authentic British accents. =)

Amazon has it for $41.96
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0553472283/ qid%3D/103-3685064-5132664 [amazon.com]

-Mike_L

Christmas Gift (2, Informative)

GweeDo (127172) | more than 12 years ago | (#2751249)

I got this Radio Show set (13 CD's) for Christmas and must say it is very well done. If you can listen to it, I highly recommend it. It is interesting to see how it differeces from the movie at moments which differs from the book at times. Over all it is a very well done presentation and great for long road trips :)

Or you can find it. . . (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2751301)

at www.jezner.com/lord_of_the_rings/ [jezner.com] .

They are doing something like 3 mp3 files a week.

NOT a good Rendition! Anybody know where the good (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2751322)

I remember as a kid (aprox. 1977) listening to the Hobbit on cassete tapes. It was a complete read of the Hobbit and was not abreviated/abridged in the slightest. Also, I believe, that it was just the voice of one person? but who dramatized all of the parts by changing his voice. DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE NAME OF THIS SET OF TAPES? I'd happily pay serious money for them. Also, did the same company hopefully also do the LOTR?
thanks,

Hans

nightowl@nightmoon.inland.net
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