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Kollar-Kotelly Rejects MS Bid For 4-Month Delay

timothy posted more than 12 years ago | from the sorry-no-cookie-for-you dept.

Microsoft 11

kalamazoo904 writes: "Off the Boston Globe and CNN newswires: Everyone's favorite convicted monopoly asked for more time to make up tall tales, but good Judge Kollar-Kotelly would have none of it. Penalty phase proceeds March 11 as planned."

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fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2799496)


Ironic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2799556)

MS programmers were always refused time extensions by the upper management. Now management gets the same treatement. The will of The Force?

Remedies (0, Redundant)

gartogg (317481) | more than 12 years ago | (#2799733)

"[The states] have asked Kollar-Kotelly to order Microsoft to sell a cheaper, stripped-down version of Windows..."
THANK YOU! All I need now is a worse version of windows. This "new" "stripped down version" will not contain many of the features of windows we have come to know and love: crashes, freezing, and it won't keep that old favorite, memory handling that requires more RAM than a 10-foot thick steel reinforced concrete doorway to dracula's castle. It will not include macros in outlook, buffer overflow vulnerabilities in uPNP, or even allow users to modify their settings in a way that will destroy their computer without a warning screen.

BUT there would be a upside to the remedy, including the fact that the new OS would cost less than a house (ok, less than a LARGE house) and will still run your computer. It may not allow you to access your files, but you will know they are safe. VERY safe. They are so safe that it will become uncertain if they even exist. It will have native support for high elvish, ojibwe, yoruba, aymara and, ever popular, frisian. These are the only languages it will support. Microsoft estimates that of the 87 people who speak one or more of these languages, 1 owns a computer. And he uses linux.

Re:Remedies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2801747)

geez .. i'd say a couple moderators missed the scarcasm

Re:Remedies (1)

gartogg (317481) | more than 12 years ago | (#2802034)

I'm just glad SOMEBODY noticed.

Consumers Must Speak Out Now (-1, Redundant)

Frank White (515786) | more than 12 years ago | (#2800069)

American citizens have long valued the entrepreneurial spirit, and nowhere is this more apparent today than in the burgeoning computer industry. Many of today's most successful computer industry leaders started their own businesses. Bill Gates and a handful of other entrepreneurs have achieved spectacular fame and fortune, but there are countless other software engineers and hardware manufacturers who have developed successful small and mid-sized businesses. Competition among these businesses is the spark that ignites innovation in the computer industry, and it is innovation that brings real choice to consumers in the marketplace. But one company -- Bill Gates' Microsoft Corporation -- has achieved such a dominant role in the global computer industry that it presents a serious threat to further competition, innovation, and entrepreneurship.

Free market advocates are fond of blaming economic problems on government regulation, and they don't look kindly on government-regulated monopolies. But the real threat to a healthy economy is an unregulated monopoly. Microsoft's marketing strategy is aimed at controlling the market.

Largely as a result of the monopoly abuses of the early U.S. industrialists, American businesses are subject to a set of strong anti-trust laws, chiefly the Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890 and the Clayton Act of 1914. When these laws are enforced, monopoly practices can be curtailed, competition among entrepreneurs can flourish, and consumers can benefit from competitive choices in the marketplace.

Anti-trust laws aren't just intended to protect competitors from anti-competitive practices. These laws are also supposed to protect consumers! Everyone who uses a computer has a stake in maintaining a competitive computer industry. And you don't need to know any complicated economic theories to understand why. If one company controls the market, it sets the price, controls the quality and determines the availability of products. With a Microsoft monopoly, you can count on higher prices, lower quality, and more delays in new product roll-outs.

It's time for consumers to speak out, loud and clear, and demand that federal officials enforce the anti-trust laws. If they don't, there's a good chance Bill Gates' Microsoft Corporation will take our choices away.

Re:Consumers Must Speak Out Now (0, Troll)

The FooMiester (466716) | more than 12 years ago | (#2800270)

Bill Gates' Microsoft Corporation -- has achieved such a dominant role in the global computer industry that it presents a serious threat to further competition, innovation, and entrepreneurship.

But that's what embrace and extend is for. They take the new ideas, and under their great leadership, make sure the concepts are deployed properly, sanely, and then fully supported after release to the general public.

Re:Consumers Must Speak Out Now (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2800899)

The parent was plagiarized from

Forcing everyone to play even (5, Informative)

Masem (1171) | more than 12 years ago | (#2801221)

One of MS's complaints and part of its request for more time was that several companies that are anti-Microsoft were being 'slow' in delivering documents to MS when they were requested; because it is in the best interests of those companies to play slow, MS wanted more time to get those docs. The decision to keep the trial going forward also includes stipulation that if these companies wish to testify during the penalty phase, they must cooperate fully with any requests for documentation from MS. Not only does this even the table for MS, giving them fewer reasons to cry for mistrial, but this also makes everyone else involved play fair. I'm sure companies like AOL and Sun would love to see more penalties on MS, but if those came about due to poor trial misconduct by others, then those penalties could easily be removed again by a higher court. At this point, the trial needs to move swiftly but with due process.

Another note is that the judge has stated that she plans to address every point that the 9 dissenting states have presented as flaws in the current agreement, plus possibly any other flaws as described by the period of public comment. In other words, all those fears that those 9 states have aren't going to be simply swept under the carpet, but instead will focus scurtiny on the details of the agreement, and possibly remove some of the gapping escape holes that MS had in it.

It's still better than even for competitors... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2802488)

Actually, there are more aspects to the ruling. This is a detailed account:

MS wanted to present its list of witnesses after the dissenting states did - rejected. MS wants competing firms to co-operate on sub-poenas - they are likely to misuse this right, but this is unlikely to give them leverage.

The crux is this: MS wanted to get an agreement reached with the consenting states approved in Court, BEFORE the dissenting states went on their Voyage Of Discovery. This has been dismissed by the judge.

NET Result? Dissenting states can wait for MS to defend the existing settlement, and use the PR to propose theirs. For once, the competing firms will be in the limelight and MS will be perceived to be the EvilBlackChap.

Wrong department? (1)

Stone Rhino (532581) | more than 12 years ago | (#2801978)

What does this havce to do with YRO? Its not like a new CDA/DMCA/etc. has been passed. its just a development in the microsoft case. This is not something that affects OUR RIGHTS ONLINE.
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