Yahoo News Posts Advertisements as News 396
An anonymous reader writes "Yahoo is now putting ad banners as news stories. This is highly misleading and is an awesome way to sell out."
I don't really think Yahoo has been sold in in a few years, but this
is a new level of yucky. No doubt it is a sign of things to come:
the news is the ad. The ad is the news. It's one step worse then the
bizarre advertising/news merge that was amazingly evident when Disney/ABC was doing
with Monsters Inc while Time/Warner/AOL/CNN was hyping Harry Potter.
Oh, in case they change it, basically they have a list of news stories,
and one of them links simply to a page advertising (not surprisingly) X-10. The link isn't marked as an ad -- its simply one of the headlines in
the news list. It's one thing to have more ads... it's another to
simply disguise the ad as actual news. Update The ad was yanked.
For those who missed it, there were a dozen news articles, but one
was an advertisement. It was indistinguishable from the actual news.
Are you sure? (Score:4, Redundant)
Is this all we're talking about, or is there something more "sinister" going on that I missed?
Re:Are you sure? (Score:5, Funny)
I've been to yahoo news quite a bit, and occasionally, a link goes bad, but still triggers the ad.
Taco should know this too. Slashdot goes down every once in a while (usually jsut a DB thing, but it happens). Yahoo is run by humors. To err is human...
Re:Are you sure? (Score:2)
To paraphrase a great sig I've read here on slashdot: Never assume something's sinister if it can be explained by stupidity.
Re:Are you sure? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Are you sure? (Score:2)
Er, yeah, but... (Score:3, Informative)
- A.P.
Re:Are you sure? (Score:2)
Re:Are you sure? (Score:2)
Re:Are you sure? (Score:2, Funny)
Yes, there is! Yahoo is requiring you to click on all of the links with your Left Hand [m-w.com]!
Re:Are you sure? (Score:2)
Re:Are you sure? (Score:2)
Re:Are you sure? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Are you sure? (Score:2)
Nothing sinister here
Using Mozilla 0.9.6 on Mac OS 10.0.4, and with Javascript enabled all I saw was a regualr financial news page. No popups, no popunders. A banner add for an X-10 camera at the top of the page. Various stories about the recession and budget surplus in the larger table cells, and links to other sites and clearly labled text ads in the smaller ones.
Nothing sinister, or even as annoying as most other news sites nowadays.
Question: Was this just crying wolf, or are they doing random tests of this? (Like I noticed most people report pop under ads, which I didn't get)
Re:Are you sure? (Score:2)
Yahoo has been using X10 pop-up ads for quite some time. In my experience, they seem to be triggered for when you leave the dailynews.yahoo.com site.
The yahoo page linked to in this article contains links to news stories on external websites - so - if you follow a link - you're leaving dailynews.yahoo.com - so - you get the X10 pop-up ad.
Why is this so strange? They've been doing this for at least 6 months.
Re:Are you sure? (Score:3, Informative)
Space program research creates "smart bed" sleep surface
Unique formulation combats oxygen deficiencies without chemicals
But when you click on one of them, it just takes you to a page with product and ordering information. It's pretty obvious to me that it's a advertisement (especially since there's a note on top of it that reads 'Advertisement').
Re:Are you sure? (Score:2)
As A Bat (Score:2)
Re:As A Bat (Score:2)
For that matter, how do we know this wasn't just some webmaster's screwup, cutting-and-pasting in the wrong link?
Re:As A Bat (Score:5, Informative)
Half the headline links DO point to non-yahoo sites, though, and I wouldn't be surprised if one of those sites use those newfangled interrupting ads that make you wait 10 seconds or some crap before the actual page appears. I've seen ads like that break on more than one occasion, and I wouldn't be surprised if thats what caused the fuss.
Re:As A Bat (Score:2)
Re:As A Bat (Score:2)
Are we bitching about ads that are hyperlinks? I've seen this ad on a few other sites, not just Yahoo! and it doesn't seem that confusing or misleading to me. (Is anyone going to think "Workout technology that provides safe, easy-to-change resistance" is supposed to be a news item?)
I was expecting to have one of the news item links pop up an x-10 ad. That would be wrong.
Re:As A Bat (Score:2)
So far this looks like a pretty shoddy post on
There really should be some basic fact checking done before stories are posted. Commander Taco, you have some explaining to do.
CmdrTaco screwed up (Score:2)
Anyone see a retraction coming?
Slightly confused here (Score:2, Interesting)
X10 ads and why I loathe them (Score:5, Interesting)
No, what I objected to was the content of the ads. Now, call me a prude if you must, but frankly I am turned off by a company who will insist on popping up ads which feature shots of cameras panning over scantily-clad females and lingering on the cleavage whilst accompanied by a tag line reading "see what you're missing" or "who knows what you'll see?". Okay, so I'm an adult -- what about those parents who (rightly or wrongly) wish to be able to have their children surf the Net through a supposedly safe medium such as Yahoo and not be inundated with sleazy ads?
We all know that children aren't safe from the spammers or the mistyped domain names that have been pounced upon by the porn people; but they're up-front (yes, ha-ha, no pun intended) about their intentions. X10, on the other hand, is just being tacky, and overloading at least this particular consumer with their tackiness.
By the way, I also pointed out to them that, for what it was worth, I am probably in one of their prized target demographics -- early 30s and technically astute with a reasonable amount of disposable cash.
No reply from X10 customer service so far. There's a surprise.
Re:X10 ads and why I loathe them (Score:2)
Re:X10 ads and why I loathe them (Score:3, Funny)
You don't have anything to worry about. Their cameras are such pieces of shit that they can't be used for much of anything. Completely worthless in almost all lighting conditions. You wouldn't even be able to make out the face of the woman you were spying on, let alone any detail of her "mommy parts"
HotBot (Score:2)
I ran the same search everyday, for a week, when it stopped doing that. They never did reply to my eMail. Imagine my surprise.
Re:HotBot (Score:2)
You mean like in, "Dewd! You're taking way too many 'ludes these days!"? :)
Re:X10 ads and why I loathe them (Score:2)
-S
You can easily disable ALL X10 Ads. (Score:5, Insightful)
They even allow you to run a cookie which will completely disable X-10 Ads. All you have to do is click here [x10.com] and it X-10 ads will never again appear for the next month or so, then just click on it again to reset the cookie.
It isn't that hard folks....theres no need to bitch about it, just fix it!
Re:You can easily disable ALL X10 Ads. (Score:5, Informative)
If all you have to do to get me to stop leaving burn bags of dog crap on your front porch is to ask me, does that make it ok for me to leave those shitbombs until you say otherwise? (With the understanding that I'm free to start up again in a months time unless you keep repeating your request?)
Annoying and rude behavior is not ok even if the offendor agrees to cut it out when asked.
Re:X10 ads and why I loathe them (Score:2, Interesting)
... but when I'm using the net at the office (semi-open concept cube farm) and the "scantily-clad females" etc. pop-up it really makes me reconsider using that particular site. Not always an option with the proliferation of the ads on financial news sites and other resources with unique content.
I understand the need to make money and to employ "creative" techniques, but I think that Yahoo and others are running the risk of hurting their credibility with the key business user demographic by allowing racy pop-up/under ads that are inappropriate for most offices and that can slow down research efforts (and occasionally crash the browser or OS, especially when you've got multiple business aps open).
On top of that, if the ads were any worse, I wouldn't be surprised if someone takes it even further in this crazy Politically Correct world of ours and sues an employee/er for harrassment just for walking by the screen! I've heard of dumber things happenning...
I'm also bothered by it... (Score:2)
BUT... I do object to having companies in general resort to using the absolutely most base and crass material in order to sell their product. It's ugly, it doesn't add to anyone's experience, it shows a lack of intelligence on their part, and (perhaps most importantly) they imply that their customers and customers-to-be can't think rationally and make all our purchasing decisions with our genitalia.
So, yes, I do object. They can do much better.
Well, after watching some 10pm network 'news' (Score:2, Insightful)
Dear sirs, it is my sad duty to inform you that journalistic integrity is dead.
Well, check out www.whatreallyhappened.com... there's still *some* left, I think. They're just alarmist, as opposed to corrupt.
Re:Well, after watching some 10pm network 'news' (Score:2, Funny)
What the Deal? (Score:2)
I didn't see any (Score:2, Interesting)
Nothing really new, just a continuation of a trend (Score:5, Interesting)
The only difference is that in this case the ad is paid for and presented as news instead of being "free" for those places that write their own press releases.
Re:Nothing really new, just a continuation of a tr (Score:2)
squid-redir [taz.net.au] lets you block anything from anywhere, based on the URL. This rule, for instance, blocks all Flash at the Motley Fool [fool.com]:
It substitutes a 1x1 transparent GIF for the Flash. Something similar would work elsewhere...if you want to cut off all Flash from all sites, you can do that:
It works on any system that can run Squid and Perl, and it'll work with any browser (I usually use IE, though I also have Lynx, Konqueror, and iCab available). More info and the block list I'm currently using are available here [dyndns.org]. Here are the Yahoo-related rules I'm currently using:
Alternative news portals? (Score:2)
I've been using My Yahoo for awhile now to get my news, but the corporate bias is pretty evident; stories always seem to have a twinge of flavor in favor of the dollar. Whenever I see 'evil cyberterrorist arrested' I typically hit slashdot to get the REAL story.
The popups Yahoo uses are even getting past my disabled Javascript lately. If I have to deal with headlines as ads on top of bias and popups, well... bye!
Does anybody know of a news portal type site which goes EASY on this sort of thing? Ads where they ought to be rather than ads all over the place, including in the news headlines themselves? Is there an acceptable 'mainstream' news outlet that's not as invasive as this?
"Highly Misleading"? No, not really... (Score:5, Insightful)
Okay, you don't have to like this type of advertisement and there can be thoughts about the 'psudo journalism' feel of it, but as long as it says that it's an add, how is it any different from the "Special Advertisement Section" that shows up periodically in Newsweek, Discover, Sports Illustrated, etc.? Just ignore it and continue reading what you want to read....
-Mark
Great thinking. (Score:2, Funny)
"..so you see, Sir, we HIDE the ads randomly IN the news. Then when they click on a news headline, it really brings them to an AD!"
"So...... basically we're going to lie?"
"YES!!"
"And what happens to the new story that is replaced by an ad?"
"WHO CARES?!"
"Good lord, Johnson, that's BRILLIANT! I knew I wouldn't regret hiring my ex-wife's cousin."
Mistake? (Score:2)
It would be much trickier of them of course to have the ad links appear randomly, so that they're difficult to duplicate. That would be a pretty difficult thing to prove...
Re:Mistake? (Score:2)
That's not quite true. (Score:2, Informative)
Its not Yahoo (Score:5, Interesting)
They do it on TV, too (Score:5, Insightful)
I quit watching TV as a teen because I was tired of the brainwashing. These days if I'm visiting someone who has it on I will watch with them so as to not be a snob. Recently I caught a little bit of Good Morning America. I was amazed by how much of the show is blatant advertising for products. My friend said most other "information" shows on TV are the same way. Every outlet in our culture is being geared towards the Consumerist movement.
So now the "News" sites on the Internet are doing the same thing. It's sad to see the progression of the Internet from a bastion of equal speech to yet another Consumerism-in-overdrive medium.
If slashdot starts redirecting the "Reply" button to ad sites, I'll post all my karma-capped UIDs/passwords on a first-come, first-served basis. The advertisers will win, and so will the trolls.
Re:They do it on TV, too (Score:3, Funny)
Just the other day, I was sitting on my couch watching the news on TV, and suddenly up pops a series of advertisements for various products! Nowhere on the TV screen did the disclaimer "this is an advertisement" appear, in fact the only warning of any kind was the news anchor saying " . . . back after these messages."
Seriously, if we don't like it, we need to show our displeasure by not visiting the site (as if I needed another reason not to visit Yahoo.) Now if CNN starts publishing headlines like "4 out of 5 Terrorists Prefer Crest(TM)", then we are in trouble.
They stole it from Pr0n (Score:2)
I think the difference though is two-fold. Movie post stopped doing this. Picpost, it's sister site also started labeling these types of links as another 'Gallery'. Secondly, this is pr0n site and you expect some underhandedness.
Yahoo[!] is a site that people expect some level of professionalism. I've gotten so many of our family members to use Yahoo as a portal because it's still somewhat lightweight, and easy to use. Yahoo also goes back a long way... to when I was 15 ['95-'96?] and I figured they weren't into this sort of thing.
I guess I should point my family members [read: Newbies] to Google for more than searches... I hope their directory gets better.
Clearly Listed as Advertisements (Score:2, Insightful)
It looks like all of the things in the "Technoscout" section are simply advertisements/product offerings displayed as news-like articles or press releases.
None of the articles in the main sections had any advertisements mixed in with them.
As if... (Score:2)
Not that blurring the line between news and advertising is a good thing, but I do sympathize with Yahoo's position. Money must be tight over there, and every ad they link to as "news" means less time paying writers to rewrite coporate advertising into "pseudo-news"!
cf. NYT LOTR Sponsored Feature (Score:2, Interesting)
The mixing of news features and advertising is nothing new, although I must say the New York Times Tolkein Archives "Sponsored Feature" [nytimes.com] is a much classier treatment than Yahoo's use of banners as news stories [yahoo.com] particularly in the way it handled two other movies, Monsters Inc and Harry Potter, which was worse than misleading -- it was ugly and devoid of interesting content.
The nice thing about the NYT Sponsored Feature, by contrast, is that they have a great deal of good content in their archives, and presumably the sponsorship goes into getting the stuff off microfilm and out of file drawers and onto their web pages.
Just another act of desperation. (Score:2)
This really isn't anything new, though. I regularly see advertisements (in particular on TechTV) that are done well enough that, if I'm not really paying attention at first, I have to do a double-take and look for the "Paid Advertisement" text to make sure it's not an actual show of some sort. Anything to expose those products to viewers' eyeballs.
Really, though, who's surprised by this given the recent collapse of banner ad revenue on the web?
All I see is news (Score:2)
That could have something to do with The Proxomition [proxomitron.org], though.
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Huh? (Score:2)
News Stories
- Santomero Sees Room for More Rate Cuts - Reuters (Jan 10, 2002)
- Recession wiped out '02 surplus, report says - USA Today (Jan 10, 2002)
- Last-Minute Shoppers Save Retailers - AP (Jan 10, 2002)
- Recession top cause of deficit - USA Today (Jan 10, 2002)
- Debts, recession make bankruptcies surge - Atlanta Journal-Constitution (Jan 10, 2002)
- Rates Remain High. Blame Bush Budget or Big Expectations? - NY Times (registration req'd) (Jan 9, 2002)
- New debt may stall recovery - Atlanta Journal-Constitution (Jan 9, 2002)
- President keeps hammering on his tax-cut proposal - San Francisco Chronicle (Jan 8, 2002)
- Fed Officials Differ on Rebound Timing - Reuters (Jan 8, 2002)
- Recession's grip begins to loosen - Chicago Tribune (Jan 8, 2002)
- Santomero: Data Provide Hope for Recovery - Reuters (Jan 8, 2002)
- Factory Orders Down in November - Reuters (Jan 8, 2002)
- Chain Store Sales Dip in Jan 5 Week - Reuters (Jan 8, 2002)
- Factory Orders Drop 3.3 Percent - AP (Jan 8, 2002)
- Bush Says He May Not Seek Balanced Budget This Year - NY Times (registration req'd) (Jan 8, 2002)
Whats going on? (Score:2)
This
I would just love to know what all is going on with this... a mistake (or two) were made.The mistake could have been somebody not checking up on the story before posting it, the webmaster on yahoo making a mistake, or us for believing it that Yahoo is above this and that they covered their tracks when they were caught.
Welcome to the "new" economy (Score:2, Insightful)
My 2 cents.
Re:Welcome to the "new" economy (Score:2)
How to find the perpetrating Ad... (Score:4, Redundant)
2. Refresh page until right side banner shows Techno Scout with links below it...
You may notice a single word disclaimer above the banner that says, "Advertisement"
A reasonable person should easily be able to tell the difference...
Screen shot of the Ad (Score:3, Informative)
screen shot [carlsoncarlson.com]
Re:Screen shot of the Ad (Score:3, Insightful)
Well it may be be some special form of humor, an old english tradition called irony, which is often very subtle and misunderstood. Maybe not. Whatever.
What bugs me more is the fact I can't believe someone in the
Slashdot Posts Yahoo Ad As Genuine Post! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Slashdot Posts Yahoo Ad As Genuine Post! (Score:2)
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Not exactly a new idea.. (Score:2)
They went out of their way to make their advertising and their news blend together to the point that it was tough to tell one from the other. Little advertising snippets complete with links would be written up as though they were headlines on the news page. When you clicked on the links, you either went through to the manufacturer, or you went to some rah-rah fluff an internal copy writer had sketched up.
I was originally going to mention the site she worked at, but by the end of this post, I thought better. Never makes sense to burn any bridges...
:-)
Are they really doing this? (Score:2)
Are we sure they're really doing this? At least on the page I got when I clicked the link, I didn't see any such thing. Perhaps it was a *gasp* minor error or mistake. Like that never happens here at Slashdot... ;-P
Magazines (Score:2)
I think Slashdot was Trolled (Score:3, Redundant)
It think it's slimy of the advertiser, but I wouldn't blame Yahoo for it. I got caught by it once before, but since then mentally block it out.
Am I blind? (Score:2)
I wish this would happen more often.
Well now we know (Score:2)
yahoo
noun 1. a rough, coarse or uncouth person. --interjection 2. an exclamation expressing enthusiasm or delight. --phrase 3. yahoo around, to act in a rough, loutish manner. [from Yahoo, one of a race of brutes having the form of human beings and embodying all the degrading passions of humanity, in Gulliver's Travels (1726) by Jonathan Swift]
Number three seems to descibe their new business model to a tee.
Must have been a mistake (Score:2)
Not to mention that the first time I loaded the page, it actually had an X10 ad on it. Mixing up a legitimate news link with an ad link would be a trivial scripting error.
Nothing to see here, folks.
So much for the hosts file (Score:2)
I wonder how long it will be before these types of redirects are moved onto the server side, with non-obvious redirects, to force you to click onto the ad site.
Victoria's Secret vs X10 (Score:5, Funny)
Some more tips. (Score:3, Funny)
Mix up the headlines, so when you click on a legitimate headline, it takes you to some random advertisement site instead, preferably one selling an x10 camera or helping you find your old classmates.
If you want to make even more advertising revenue, try sending the user to 10 or so advertising sites, more sites = more $$$.
Have advertisments that fly around the screen in front of what they are trying to do. They will be impressed by this technical feat.
Use lots of blinking. Nevermind that someone will probably get a seizure and sue you, blinking lights make people want to buy things.
Use really big animations and lots of them so the page will take a long time to load. Many people are impressed by lengthy download times.
I'm sure there are many others.
It sounds like Yahoo is well on their way to tricking users, er, generating more advertisment revenue.
grow up! (Score:2)
Pretty much any corporate "press release" is really an advertisement. isn't that about 90% of so-called "business news"?
Is it me or has Yahoo become unbearable to use (Score:2)
Ultimately these types of advertising tactics will not prevail, as people simply will use something else. And there will always be some new site waiting to take market share away from companies who do this.
My new favorite option in Mozilla.. (Score:2, Informative)
X10 must be selling nicely. (Score:2)
Maybe I should get into the business of selling garbage by advertising it via annoying ads. It certainly seems to be working well for X10. Hmmmm.
-Restil
Tested Links...no ads (Score:3, Interesting)
If you can't replicate a situation, it cannot be taken as fact. Since the link in question wasn't included, it's impossible to say what really happened. However, (prefaced with IANAL) this kind of "news" reporting treads dangerous ground, as you're saying something that's potentially defaming a corporation and there's no viable proof. Editors, be more careful next time. I don't want to see this site die in a cyberspace libel suit (or something similar).
Dumbass headline (Score:2)
Yahoo slips ads into Slashdot (Score:2)
Ad is disguising itself as news, NOT Yahoo's idea. (Score:2)
I cannot, otherwise, find any references to this practice.
Slashdot Plans to Run BIG ANNOYING ADS Soon! (Score:3, Insightful)
For those who missed it, about two months ago Rob posted an article here explaining that Slashdot was seriously considering running large ads (kinda like CNet, etc) and possibly pop-ups, etc sometime in the first quarter of 2002 (ie. about now) too since standard banner ads aren't getting enough click-throughs.
Oh boy, it's going to be interesting to see the backlash from readers here when the BIG ANNOYING Yahoo like ads showup here on Slashdot - then perhaps Rob's article was just a red herring to test the waters so to speak to test reader reaction to Yahoo like advertising so Slashdot can see how aggressive they can be with their own advertising. Enjoy the final days of relatively ad-free Slashdot...
Wow, ya know.. (Score:3, Insightful)
Anyways.. to recap my post.. Advertising is not a sin to me - we've had to deal with misleading adverisiments in printed press for a long time. I think the group personality here lends itself to sensationalism way too easy. Me, i'd rather see 5 banner ads on CNN than have to pay for CNN. Its not 1992 anymore, and websites carry a LOT more data than before. The internet has become a part of our economy - not a novelty relegated to just a few fortunate souls in acadamia and dialup ISP patrons browsing websites served on T1's. This is the multimedia internet, and while you or I may or may not like the barrage of images and sounds, i'd be willing to bet Joe America uses it - or else it wouldnt exist. 'Tis the nature of capitalism.
I've posted a proposed end-users bill of rights in my journal. I'd love to hear more thoughts about it. I asked slashdot about it, and, somehow, the entire post was marked as "Rejected" as soon as the submit page came back up. Interesting, eh?
Re:Wow, ya know.. (Score:3, Informative)
Well, you make a good point here, but I have mixed feelings on this issue. Yes, advertisements are a necessary evil and I too would rather see 5 banner ads (and, perhaps, even pay attention to them on occasion) than pay for CNN, but the trend that Taco points out in the article - that of "sneaky" promotion-as-news - is what I'm more concerned about.
In this case, we saw Yahoo slipping in links to unsuspecting users. In the CNN + ABC cases, we see a concerted effort by news organizations to promote products/movies/services by _artificially_ hyping them up. THAT's what I consider unacceptable: Harry Potter, while it may be a consumer phenom that merrit's some attention, is only given such phenom status when it gets (and keeps) front-page status on CNN for weeks on end.
Just this morning, in fact, I forwarded this article [cnn.com] to a friend during a similar discussion. CNN is actually promoting Survivor's "lack of being cool anymore" as a TOP news story, right on the front page. Of course they included the time and station where people can catch the finale, but that was just as a service to their readers ... right?
The worst example I can remember recently was this one [cnn.com], which was in the "top news" section on the front page when it was published -- basically a meanlingless and contentless article about a lead in the JonBenet case, but one that mentioned AOL and therefore got front-page CNN coverage. No other news organizations covered the story, for obvious reasons...(it wasn't newsworthy).
While I understand that organizations need new and better ways to promote products, the trend for supposedly impartial news organizations to allow corporate promotions to taint story content is worrysome.
Slow Down Cowboy (Score:2)
This is nothing new. Yahoo's related stories links are in fact links to other websites. Those websites, some of them, have pop up ads that show up when you go there. It's not Yahoo's doing.
As for a new story link that didn't show a story, only an ad, I couldn't find one.
Out of Curiosity.... (Score:2)
I remember a few years back when a "hacker" performed a DOS attack on Yahoo which was moderately successful, but I'd like to know if it's ever been brought down by "innocent" traffic.
Marketing - world's 2nd oldest profession (Score:2, Redundant)
Newspaper history (Score:2)
Naturally this is the high ideal, and almost no newspaper can live up to it 100%, but anyway, history shows that sometimes some guidelines can be established and even followed, by and large.
The Web is different from paper media, of course, and different situations require different rules, but to me the it seems like we are repeating one old and well-known problem here, and could learn from the way it was solved in the past. Maybe some well informed slashdotter would care to fill in the details for all of us to learn from?
Why is this anything new? (Score:2)
It's been done by the Times, done all the time by the Post, and for many papers is the most lucrative form of advertising. Every hear of a shopper?
What you need to remember here is that newspapers are now, and have been for a while, simply vehicles for the advertisements that make the paper money. The nickle you pay covers most of the $.27 worth of paper you're buying and is just to elevate the paper above the sleazy shoppers and coupon mags in your imagination and justify a higher ad rate. When you lay out a newspaper, you lay the ads out first...content, stories and comics and columns, are just there to fill in the dead space. It's sort of cynical to think about it this way, and it's this sort of business that leads to a reluctance to make waves with articles or opinions, for fear of losing advertisers (and not readership, which isn't as important to the immediate business of the newspaper).
Nothing new here (Score:2, Informative)
So this is nothing really new.
Maybe new to the web. . . (Score:3, Insightful)
Magazines and newspapers have adds like these all the time. Every so often I come across an interesting headline, but about three paragraphs I start to wonder. Sure enough, there's a tiny "advertisement" on the bottom of the page.
Some of the slicker ads on tv could pass themselves of as regular tv. Anyone see the adds for blimpie sandwhiches which looked like CNN segments?
Even on radio, at least locally, there are bits that sound like "man at the field" reports, but are in fact paid ads for a car dealer or grocer.
Just my opinion here, but I thought the slashdot crowd was by definition smart enough to know when to call a spade a spade. Geeks and nerds are also supposed to be savy to pop culture, but the crowd here is so sensitive to ads as to be quite incredible. Please get a grip everyone.
Foxnews and Subway (Score:3, Informative)
I think that was the day I stopped watching TV news for good.
Re:Save your eyes! (Score:2)
Seems kinda selfish to me. If you don't like advertising, but still want your content, why don't you do something about the model that everyone has to rely on now to provide content for 'free' to the likes of you. What makes you so special that you can step to the head of the line, so long as critical mass doesn't follow your lead?
Re:Save your eyes! (Score:2)
What makes you so special that you can step to the head of the line, so long as critical mass doesn't follow your lead?
Because I can. Its my freedom of choice...I choose to live as AD free as possible.
Re:Save your eyes! (Score:3, Interesting)
Sorry about the conservative slag, but I do tend to learn towards socialism and a kind of forced 'taking it for the team' approach to community. That is, I don't mind being a martyr if everyone will join me. ;)
No problem. Too many people think that personal responsibility is a conservative value. I believe you cannot have liberty without personal responsibility and self determination. No offense but I see socialism as the absence of personal responsibility as the group as a whole will take care you when you make poor choices and you are only as strong as your weakest link.
I do have to disagree with the banner-responsible-for-bust thing.
I think if you go back and read what I typed that it was 'one of the main' not 'the main' cause of the dot bomb. But the reliance on banner ads instead of charging for content from the beginning has convinced the web viewing public that all content should be free -- outside of pr0n which had the right business plan from the start. Make the suckers pay upfront.
Re:Huh (Score:3, Funny)
Unless someone is confusing that 'technoscout' ad on the right-hand column for a real news article - I have no idea what this article is talking about.
Confusing this ad for a *real* news article is like actually thinking you *will* win something for punching the monkey.
Ethical guidlines... (Score:2)
Contrast that to members of the American Society of Magazine Editors [magazine.org] who must follow strict guidlines about the inclusion and identification of advertising content (in both paper and online publications). Their ethical standards (Here [magazine.org]) include:
Neither links nor other references to special advertising sections, or "advertorials," shall appear in the table of contents, directory of contents, or in any listing of editorial content of an online publication.
and
The layout, design and type face of advertising pages should be distinctly different from the publication's normal layout, design and type faces.
Does anyone know if Yahoo or any other portals have been pressured to accept such codes of ethics?
Re:The Future (Score:2, Insightful)
It is my fear that as more venues repackage ads as news (TV news has been doing it for years), more people will just kick back and take the ads as news. I'm not sure if that's cause or effect of my cynicism. Maybe both.
Re:Unethical? (Score:2)