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KaZaa Suspends Downloads

timothy posted more than 12 years ago | from the put-it-next-to-your-decss-mirror dept.

The Courts 382

chill writes: "'Download Temporarily Suspended -- Download of the KaZaA Media Desktop software is temporarily and voluntarily suspended pending Dutch court decision on January 31. We apologise for the inconvenience. Please check back at www.kazaa.com for more information.' --- Both the Linux and Windows client downloads are offline. I wonder what the judge thinks this will do to the tens, if not hundreds of thousands who already have the software?"

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Troll! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860316)

This is not a First Post.

I need to get some opinions here... (-1)

the_furies (541751) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860444)

Is it normal for a male to masturbate while watching women's tennis? Or is that one of those perversions they have a special name for, like necrophilia?

fuck you you fucking porno loving jew... (-1, Offtopic)

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...fuck you in your sperm soaked asshole

kazaa? (-1, Troll)

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Re:kazaa? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860425)

Listen buddy, it's not a matter of whether it can be used for illegal purposes or not. As has been said many times before, a gun or a hammer can be used for illegal purposes. The intent of this program is innocent; it allows users to share files in a P2P manner which is far more efficient than the usual client/server architecture. As a matter of fact, AFAIK Kazaa only allows sharing of low bitrate MP3s, the concept being that if you want the full quality music, you will go buy it. These litigious bastards are ready to throw the baby out with the bathwater because they can't see the potential of this sort of thing for promoting small artists, or don't want to see it because they are interested in shoveling teeny-bopper pap down our throats.

fuckin awesome (-1)

ArchieBunker (132337) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860452)

good to see the lameness filter is doing its job.

speaking of rights... (-1, Troll)

ubugly2 (454850) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860320)

don't forget the real story,something that exposes the moderation system for what it is.....
red my sig for more and remember to browse at -1.this is what the editors ere trying to bury

Hero's been bitchslapped into oblivion....

Re:speaking of rights... (-1, Offtopic)

ubugly2 (454850) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860345)

amazing...this went from 0 to -1 in the time i took to refresh from posting,i was posting at +1 until i spoke about the slashdot censors

Re:speaking of rights... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860369)

Same here, thats why the AC post. What a bunch of HYPOCRITES these guys are.

Re:speaking of rights... (-1, Troll)

ubugly2 (454850) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860394)

i could go the ac route but i thought using my real account might have more weight..and my life doesn't revolve around karma.

Story is on Kuro5hin (-1, Troll)

bonch (38532) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860416)

It is now on Kuro5hin. http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/1/17/21155/1564

And now I am a "troll" because of it... (-1, Offtopic)

bonch (38532) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860466)

Thanks. Now my karma is so low, my posts start at -1. All thanks to a certain negative modding that has been taking place in the past few days.

Re:And now I am a "troll" because of it... (-1, Offtopic)

Mr Thinly Sliced (73041) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860484)

Hey man, don't worry about it. Find a new news site, read a paper, spend some time with family, friends. Maybe do some work :-)

Get on with life. Its too short.

Mr Thinly Sliced.

Re:And now I am a "troll" because of it... (-1, Offtopic)

bonch (38532) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860494)

I have a life, thank you. :) It's just that the state of Slashdot is disappointing, that's all. I've been visiting for years.

Re:And now I am a "troll" because of it... (-1, Offtopic)

Mr Thinly Sliced (73041) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860503)

Didn't mean to say you didn't have one mate, I said get _on_ with life. No offence intended.

I know its dissapointing. Its also really tempting to go 'troll' .-)

even funnier (2, Insightful)

Richthofen80 (412488) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860323)

is that i'm sure the kazaa client is available for download from Morpheus, or one of the hundreds of other file sharing programs. Effectively, once one copy exists, software gains a sort of immortality... which the courts can't effectively dismantle.

Re:even funnier (3)

zatz (37585) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860379)

kazaa and morpheus are the same network, so if you can download something from morpheus, you dont exactly need the kazaa client :)

the downloadable installer actually gets most of the kazaa program from the fasttrack network, oddly enough....

Re:even funnier (2, Funny)

dozing (111230) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860426)

Or you can just open up your Kazaa client and download Kazaa and install it on your... Oh wait... I suppose if I don't have Kazaa I can't open it... So I open Morpheus and download Kazaa and install it... Oh, I suppose if I already have Morpheus there's no real purpose in installing Kazaa since the use the same network... What was I saying?

Buggy Linux client (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860325)

I always found the Linux client, which uses the FastTrack proprietary-but-cross-platform (http://www.fasttrack.nu/) P2P stack, to be buggy to the extent of being unusable. Could've been a libc mismatch with my Debian-unstable system, but it wouldn't accept user input after starting up and logging in.

Bug or design? (2)

yerricde (125198) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860357)

Could've been a libc mismatch with my Debian-unstable system, but [KaZaA for Linux] wouldn't accept user input after starting up and logging in.

That might be the whole point: if I remember correctly, you start a client daemon (with &), and then you use other apps to send commands to that daemon and interact with the network. (Normally, a GUI wrapper would handle that for you.)

Re:Bug or design? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860414)

Your thinking of something else... KaZaa has a curses based ui. Try upgrading your ncurses library. I use 4.2 and it works fine.

FP!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860328)

fp! hahaha! I WIN

Yay!!! (0, Troll)

ecliptik (160746) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860330)

Ha!! All this time I just thought it was our shitty shitty school network admins here at my campus and their inability to properly configure routers and firewalls!!!

Re:Yay!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860419)

Or maybe they finally figured out how to avoid the traffic. :)

What will they do? (0, Troll)

Hatechall (541378) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860332)

WinMX
Audiogalaxy
Morpheous
Bearshare
LimeWire
Should I go on? Not to mention that only shutting off the server and only shutting off the front end application is like someone giving out cheat sheets to a test and the instructor later telling everyone not to use them.
But I'm sure that the Einstein-like geneouses in the RIAA/MPAA are on top of the situation. Don't worry folks.

Re:What will they do? (1)

I.T.R.A.R.K. (533627) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860510)

Audiogalaxy now blocks all copyrighted materials. Try downloading anything written by a big-label band and you'll get an error message saying the download has been blocked.
A shame too. They were halfway decent.

hahagoatsex (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860334)

yup
indeed

Important! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860335)

Attention Slashdot Readers: Please read this important thread [slashdot.org] about the present and future conditions of slashdot.

Not bloody much. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860338)

Well, he's either naive, or overwhelmed by the technology.

How does this solve anything? (1, Insightful)

arcadia (183606) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860339)

Does this really solve anything? There are almost 500 000 users online at any time on Kazaa/Morpheus and you can download the client from mirrors still and it won't go away. What is the point of suspending the download from their homepage?

Re:How does this solve anything? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860387)

What is the point of suspending the download from their homepage?

Because a judge took a look at the binary executable and found that the byte values and/or their disposition in the executable is offensive.

I've got the windows installer... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860341)

I'm uploading the windows installer to a tripod website right now, gimme a few minutes and this story will be more or less worthless.

What a difference a day makes. (3, Interesting)

Mike the Mac Geek (182790) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860343)

Great. In one 24 hour period we have had stories on Universal's general screwing of it's customers, the network's reluctance to let us record shows in any shape or fashion, and now Kazaa shutting down pending litigation.

What a happy joyous world I live in. How in the FUCK did we get to this point?

Re:What a difference a day makes. (2, Redundant)

anotherone (132088) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860361)

KaZaa hasn't shut down, they've just taken the program download off of their website. I've got KaZaa open right now, it's working fine.

Just get Morpheus (1)

doughnuthole (451165) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860398)

Morpheus is up and running and has the added benefit of not having spyware. Or if you're at college like me, get stuff on the campus network.

Re:Just get Morpheus (0, Redundant)

xtremex (130532) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860479)

The Linux Kazaa client has the added benefit of not having spyware. It is better than the windows crap. Search for a song, download it...couldnt be any easier

Use Morpheus (0)

Ender7A (191315) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860346)

IT does everything kaZaa does.

Re:Use Morpheus (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860478)

Run on Linux ?

ep! (-1)

the_furies (541751) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860348)

Anybody care to make odds on the upcoming nuclear war between India and Pakistan? I figure India's got the upper hand: say, 5-3, India.

So... (0)

bonch (38532) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860349)

To get Kazaa, I'll have to use WinMX or Morpheus to find it? No big deal.

What to do: (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860352)

Eventually they will simply have to go after individual users if they want to stop illegal sharing. I know that if word got around on perhaps a college campus that students were being kicked out of the dorms that it would cause the casual pirates to think twice.

No doubt a similar fear campaign could be orchestrated in other demographics.

Re:What to do: (2, Interesting)

VA Porware (534937) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860393)

Eventually they will simply have to go after individual users if they want to stop illegal sharing. I know that if word got around on perhaps a college campus that students were being kicked out of the dorms that it would cause the casual pirates to think twice.

The fear of this happening is spreading. I recently had a few people come to me to ask about encrypting their hard drive contents. This will help for now, but I'm expecting the US to pass an equivalent law to the UK RIP Act, which requires people to turn over passwords if the government asks for them.

This country used to be about freedom for the people. What have we let happen?

Re:What to do: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860441)

Actually if they go against individuals, it will be an outcry of people wanting the copyrights rules to be rewritten - also, it will go underground like the speakeasy of yesterdays. Kinda cool and hip where police don't really care to arrest anyone/ or everyone :-)

Re:What to do: (3, Funny)

Com2Kid (142006) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860448)

Solution?

Biometrics.

"Oh, what password officer? I just put my eyeball upto the retina scanner, my thumb on my fingerprint scanner and belch into my microphone and then hum Beethoven's fifth backwards. Then I say the list of woman I have cheated on my wife with."

Even if they tied you down to a chair and made you look in the retina scanner, pressed your hand on the scanner, and made you drink alot of carbinated soda, you could hopefuly plead self incrimination for the voice recognition part of the authentication. :)

Re:What to do: (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860495)

equality for people and preservation of some fundamental rights.. stealing music is not a fundamental right and investigating crimes has always been the american way SO expecting to be able to perform illegal acts such as stealing copyrighted material and then bitching about the subversion of our rights is not a well thought out argument. In fact, it would seem that by stealing music you are prompting lobbyists with money to work against what few freedoms we do have left. What is the root cause? Us AND them I say.. (note: im listening to mp3s as i write this so call me a hypocrite)....

Re:What to do: (1)

Silver222 (452093) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860497)

Offtopic, but ontopic concerning your post: How does a law prevent me from forgetting a password? Hell, I do it all the time now, and I'm not trying to :) How does a law like that work in practice exactly?

Re:What to do: (2)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860473)


> Eventually they will simply have to go after individual users if they want to stop illegal sharing. I know that if word got around on perhaps a college campus that students were being kicked out of the dorms that it would cause the casual pirates to think twice.

That strategy hasn't been notably effective as a way of stopping people from using illegal drugs.

Nother thing (1)

ecliptik (160746) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860355)

I'm looking at Kazaa's website at the moment and I'm not seeing anything about suspension of downloads, just a big download button and a quote from c|net. Am I missing something here?

Re:Nother thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860381)

try clicking that button

The legal system, etc. (5, Insightful)

Alien54 (180860) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860358)

The Brad Waldell article Lawsuits in the Internet Age [avault.com] sums it up nicely; as he says:

''Never in human history has technology allowed the big to crush the small with so little effort, and never have the laws and infrastructure of the world been so set up to expedite this process. [...] In reality, the legal system is a nasty, ugly thing that unless you have a great deal of time, resources and money, you're up the creek.''

He also explores the various myths of how the system works. For example -

Myth #1: What matters is who is right. Sorry, wrong -- it matters who is willing to spend the most money proving they are "right."

- and on it goes.

I wish these guys well with their fight

Re:The legal system, etc. (2, Insightful)

mjpk (86198) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860408)

So the question is, as always, what should be done? Would we be better off, if there were no legal system? Should there be someone superior who would make things right for the little globo-citizen?? Propably no. The _system_ is the correct one in general terms, in democracies. It's the application that has number of bugs.

Re:The legal system, etc. (1)

dozing (111230) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860446)

Would we be better off, if there were no legal system? Should there be someone superior who would make things right for the little globo-citizen??

I vote we make Cowboy Neal our countries official disciplinarian. I'm sure there won't be any problem getting him elected. He does really well int he polls anyhow.

Re:The legal system, etc. (5, Insightful)

dimator (71399) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860487)

Well put yourself in "the big"'s position: suddenly, all the content (movies, music, etc) that you've made your billions with can be exchanged with next to zero effort by countless millions of people. Wouldn't you be doing something to defend your business? And don't give me that "The cat is out of the bag, they should evolve to use the internet." Let me repeat: BILLIONS of dollars. Why would they want to adapt when what they've been doing has gotten them so much cash?

The only power they have is the legal system, and they are forced to utilize it.

Note: I'm not passing judgement on who's right or wrong. I'm just pointing out that "the big" have their side to the whole "digital rights" story too. It would be stupid to expect them to give up and walk away.

Re:The legal system, etc. (2, Insightful)

DahGhostfacedFiddlah (470393) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860508)

And don't give me that "The cat is out of the bag, they should evolve to use the internet."

But that's what the parent post is all about - they got big off of a system that would not work if it were brought in brand-new today, and now that they're big, they can crush opposition. Of course they don't want to adapt when what they've been doing has gotten them so much cash. The point is that the law allows obsolete business practices to litigate their way through a few more years of survival - hurting a lot of entrepreneurs and innovators in the process.

Re:The legal system, etc. (2)

Robotech_Master (14247) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860512)

There was an article in the New York Times about that [nytimes.com] this very day. (registration, yadda, blah blah, if someone wants to post the 'registration-free' link, please do; I don't remember how to construct them) Quite interesting.

BTW, I didn't even know there was a KaZaa client for Linux. Where can I find it? :)

Morpheus - still available (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860359)

You can still download Morpheus, another Fasttrak-100 client from CNET [cnet.com] . According to my packet sniffer, it connects on port 1214 of these hosts:
12-230-133-211.client.attbi.com
cs2416272-88.jam.rr.com
scooby.videomaker.com
d226-68-164.home.cgocable.net
cs2424242-147.hot.rr.com
resnet129-210.medford.tufts.edu
orinoco.portland.co.uk

Except for the ads servers, no commericial servers appear to be contacted. So once KaZaa gets shut down, we just won't see their ads.

nothing quite like... (-1, Troll)

adlam.bor (547789) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860365)

...ass raping an eight year old, only to pull out and make her clean the shit off your cock while you blow insane amounts of sperm onto her tonsils.

yeah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860384)

i downloaded that video from kazaa too

Re:nothing quite like... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860462)

I'm sorry, but doing this is a misuse of your reproductive capabilities.

Only a matter of time (1)

What goes up (551903) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860367)

One by one, all the file sharing services will succumb to legal pressures and get shut down. I wish I could defend them, but as much as I hate to admit it, trading of copyrighted material is quite illegal.

I just wish all the record labels would agree on a pay service that gives me (legal) access to almost any music title out there.

I can dream, can't I?

--
Mr. Taco, tear down this wall!!! [slashdot.org]

Re:Only a matter of time (2, Insightful)

cscx (541332) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860404)

Remember:

KaZaA does not condone activities and actions that breach the copyright of artists and copyright owners - as a KaZaA user you are bound by the KaZaA Terms of Use and laws governing copyright in each country.

Slow down cowboy? Maybe I just type too fast...

26th post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860368)

I WIN

Morpheus is still going (2, Informative)

asv108 (141455) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860372)

For windows users, you can still use Morpheus [musiccity.com] for all your mp3 and pr0n downloads. I wouldn't be suprised if Morpheus is next considering Kazaa and Morpheus are based on the same technology from fastrack [fasttrack.nu] . Both morpheus and kazaa are similar to napster in the sense that they have centralized authentication, but they differ in the fact that there is not a centralized index. There is a good writeup on morpheus and kazaa available here [openp2p.com] .

Artist websites (2)

Inthewire (521207) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860377)

Yeah. I pay for music. See, I don't like record companies, so I just buy music online from bands I like. If that's not an option, well, I break down and buy the cd, but since I hate most music put out by the big guys, it all works out. MP3.com had some good stuff, particularly Americana (which is my personal choice)

Who cares? (3, Insightful)

Chemical (49694) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860378)

Chemical's reasons for not caring:

1) Even if the stupid Kaaza client is no longer available, Morpheus still is, and is a lot more popular a client anyways. That's like trying to shut down the WWW by banning Netscape.

2) Morpehus/Kaaza suck anyways. Even though the idea behind it is pretty genius, in practice their software sucks. Besides crashing constantly, being spyware, bloatware, and every other type of negative ware there is, and just plain being a crappy client, there is no friggin music on their network. I try searching for something somewhat well known but not quite mainstream, say "The Descendents", and I get 0 results back. And any results I do get download at 1.1 k/sec, despite claiming the user has a bandwith of "300" whatever that means. Worst of all you can only get mp3s of up to 128kpbs. I'll stick with WinMX or eDonkey2000 for now. There are plenty of alternatives to Kaaza/Morpheus that don't suck ass.

Re:Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860417)

It seems to truncate bits after 128kbps -- for example, a file advertised as 64kbps is probably 192kbps. I find this rather frustrating.

Re:Who cares? (3, Informative)

VA Porware (534937) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860429)

Actually you can get mp3s higher than 128kbps. In regedit, go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER, Software, Morpheus or Kazaa, change LimitBitrate to 0 and reboot!

wrong on all counts (-1)

ArchieBunker (132337) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860501)

1. Morpheus clearly states on their website "No Spyware"
2. Bloatware? Its a 1.6Mb download. Tiny by todays standards.
3. I just did a search for "The Descendents" and got hundreds of replies back.
4. If you care about "The Descendents" that much then maybe you should be buying their cds instead of downloading tracks illegally.
5. What kind of douchebag talks about himself in the 3rd person?

Re:Who cares? (1)

xtremex (130532) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860504)

Try the Linux version of Kazaa. A joy to work with.

That'll stop it.. (1)

diwolf (537997) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860380)

Let's see. Suspend the downloading of the program from KaZaa, stop the spread of the software on KaZaa and Morpheus. That'll work for what, zero seconds? So, instead of Kazaa, all the kids in need of their next MP3 fix just go to Morpheus [musiccity.com] and grap that software. Voila! Access to Morpheus AND KaZaa.

When will everyone realize that you can't put the cat back into the bag. Once the technology is out, telling someone, "Don't use it, or you'll be sorry" becomes an invitation to flaut its use.

It's really too bad that a Judge doesn't order Windows banned--because most people who pirate MP3's, etc. use Windows to do it. Hey, there's a good idea in there somewhere..

Re:That'll stop it.. (1)

Iguanaphobic (31670) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860455)

It's really too bad that a Judge doesn't order Windows banned--because most people who pirate MP3's, etc. use Windows to do it. Hey, there's a good idea in there somewhere..

Nope. Really bad idea.
1. The judge demands that Windows incorporate DRM technology.
2. MS does it.
3. Judge rules all other OS's to incorporate same technology or face prosecution under the various greed laws.
4. Linux users revolt and refuse to do so.
5. Judge legislates all hardware manufacturers to use specially encrypted BIOS or face prosecution. MS has the key to said BIOS, no one else does unless they agree to incorporate DRM technology.
6. Game over. MPAA/RIAA 1 Freedom 0

Re:That will not do much (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860515)

Chinese version of Intel/AMD comes out with a "unlocked" linux friendly computer, everyone buys it to play their mp3's (or other files). Hardware isn't that hard to make, most of it is made overseas anyway. Hell, if I had enough time, I would make a new BIOS/patch. There is no stopping mp3's.

Morpheus still up.. (2)

hughk (248126) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860385)

As noted wlsewhere, both KaZaa and Morpheus share the FastTrack network. They are P2P clients but have the disadvantage that they are centrally authenticated (to force the advertising down the punters' throats).

KaZaa users are still connecting as of 06:00 GMT today. The main problem is if the courts go after the authentication servers. This isn't happening yet.

What it will do (5, Funny)

ErfC (127418) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860389)

I wonder what the judge thinks this will do to the tens, if not hundreds of thousands who already have the software?

It will get a story posted on /., prompting millions of users to simultaneously fire up their existing KaZaA software to see if the network is still up, thus melting the servers and shutting down the network...

Extremely Intresting To See (1)

kawaichan (527006) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860392)

It would be extremely interesting to see when the court actually makes Kazza to shut down, I wonder what would happen since Kazza doesn't have a centralized server.

Next step? I think the cournts will try to force ISPs to refuse any incoming/outgoing connection to kazza or similar services.

Morpheus anyone? (1)

SectoidRandom (87023) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860395)

How does this affect Morpheus and other FastTrack clients I wonder? Well, no news of MusicCity doing the same as yet, and I would assume this does not affect that company at all, as the case was brought against Kazaa.

So, as I'm sure a million others will say, download Morpheus! And enjoy everthing Kazaa does, _minus_ the spyware!

Reminds me of a wonderful book. (5, Funny)

AMuse (121806) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860400)

In the book "Microserfs", by Douglas Coupland, the writer muses (This was, by the way, in about 1993):

"Someday life will be nothing more than jail and shopping."

'Nuff said.

The RIAA has it all planned out (1)

gultig (551917) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860401)

By preventing the download of Kazaa you will have to have the Kazaa client creating a whole new 'chicken and the egg' paradox that will make file sharing applications cease to exist in a fit of logic.

it was fun while it lasted (0)

obi-1-kenobi (547975) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860405)

Oh well looks like its back to ripping dvds for me. Just like fat tony when he said he would go back to smuggling drugs instead of licker :P... Dont u just love the simpsons ? :-)

Doesn't matter too much (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860407)

Sure, lots of people use Fasttrack, and the network is fairly decent (in that it sort of works sometimes), unlike Gnutella, Open Napster, and Direct Connect. But now that Fasttrack implemented a cryptographic challenge (such that no open source client can enter the network easily without cracking the code) they have shot themselves in the foot since it's easier to shut down with only one company licensing the technology. I wouldn't download Kazaa anyways, since it's loaded with sypware, 3rd party programs, and the like. Morpheus is another Fasttrack program, and it is pretty decent, although it does have ads that popup through Internet Explorer (!) and they even often have sound or shockwave, or take up the whole screen! Your best bet is to use Freenet [freenetproject.org] once version 0.5 is released (really soon now) with Frost [sourcefoge.net] . All those who know the old, non-working Freenet will be impressed by 0.5, as it works incredibly well now.

One other thing worth mentioning: Kazaa wants you to use it so that it can make money off your processing cycles, memory, and network connection. That's right; Kazaa plans to introduce technology to allow businesses to use the Kazaa network to burden the load of distributing large quantities of data.

won't it be nice... (1)

npietraniec (519210) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860410)

Won't it be nice when things like giFT [sourceforge.net] and freenet [freenetproject.org] are standards and we won't have to worry about the man keeping us down?

Forget Kazaa (2, Interesting)

xxSOUL_EATERxx (549142) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860418)

Have we forgotten that the system is supposed to be PEER-TO-PEER, not PEER-TO-SPYWARE-EMBEDDED-GET-RICH-QUICK-SCHEME-TO- PEER?

True file sharing technology should not sneak Gator onto your hard drive or try to sell you CDs you don't want

The future of P2P belongs to technologies like GNUtella, which can be used to set up truly decentralized file-sharing networks that CANNOT be struck down by tyrants disguised in business suits

Yes, GNUtella is harder to use, klunkier, and tends to access smaller listings of files, but given time and work, these problems will be alleviated as greed-driven fake P2P systems like Napster and Kazaa are crushed by the moneyed interests controlling the legal system.

Anyway, True Freedom belongs to those willing to work for it. Strong, free geeks will always find a way to overcome the forces of oppression. Forget Kazaa. P2P4Profit is a deservedly dead end.

Re:Forget Kazaa (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860482)

Well i dont think so. Gnutella is cool and all and i like it fine but gnutella has no scalability [slashdot.org] so we need a NEW napster not a napstter clone or some half baked p2p scheme please stop rushing out to "catch the wave" and code right. for the good of us all please.

What a relief (5, Funny)

Dan Crash (22904) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860422)

Well, that takes care of THAT! Piracy is finally solved. Move along now! Nothing to see here!

Where? (1)

lostchicken (226656) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860424)

Is there a country where there would be no sort of recourse? [no copyright laws]

The only country I would see where this would work is China, but they have government censor proxies.

Or, would we have to set up something on some micronation island? I remember hearing something about someone trying this.

kazza? good riddance. (2)

juju2112 (215107) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860430)

There are other decent file-sharing networks people can get on besides FastTrack, like OpenNap or Gnutella. Good riddance to Kazaa, I say.

I just wish someone would write a file-sharing client for windows that doesn't suck so badly. Almost all of them have ads, spyware, and crummy interfaces.

resolution (5, Insightful)

spongman (182339) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860434)

now, more than ever, it's important to open up your outgoing bandwidth when you're not actively using your machine and share the love. i recommend downloading a gnutella client too and share your files over both networks. the only thing that can keep this technology alive is selfless participation...

you cant fool me (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860480)

youre just another lame leecher

KaZaa MaNtraa (2, Funny)

guttentag (313541) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860435)

The "communitieZ" topics at the bottom of their home page [kazaa.com] reads like a strangely appropriate twist on Apple's "Rip. Mix. Burn." ad campaign:

Discuss. Chat. Defend.

Wow (2, Funny)

J'raxis (248192) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860439)

Well, it worked so well for DeCSS, didnt it? Didnt it?

This is like... (2, Insightful)

suss (158993) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860442)

Suspending downloads of Internet Explorer and expecting the web to automatically disappear?

Way to go BUMA/STEMRA! (Dutch record company mob), a fine example of clear thinking...

Get your Kazar right here (5, Informative)

XenoBOFH (314125) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860457)

It is still possible to download KaZaA, a quick search found a copy here [pcworld.com]

KaZaA still up -- I think (2, Troll)

ciurana (2603) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860459)

Greetings!

I just logged on to KaZaA, did a search on 'Spears' and lots of images, MP3s, videos, etc. are available for download. Could someone please explain?

Thanks,

E

Pay for download services will fail (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860460)

Because Slashdot editors didn't post the story...

Aimster has gone from a free service to a pay for service (about $5/month) and have shut down their www.aimster.com and www.clubaimster.com sites. Their new service is at www.madster.com and is exactly the same as their old service but you pay for it. The old service is shut down and you can't download them without paying.

I think this was a huge mistake, Napster will fail for doing this and so will Aimster. The best way to make a profit is to use advertisements and although I hate to admit it spyware.

People have gotten used to the free internet and sure as hell don't want to pay money. AOL's legal downloading service and any others will bomb as long as there are free services available.

Amen ! (2, Offtopic)

Murphy(c) (41125) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860476)

We should do this more often, and call it the "International Internet Is Fast Again Day".

Affectionatly known as IIIFAD.

Murphy(c)

C|Net Reporting on this... (5, Informative)

instinctdesign (534196) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860481)

C|Net [news.com] is reporting on this, check out the article [com.com] which includes a few more details that haven't been mentioned here.

Who Cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2860488)

Just get one of the many other good clients out there:

http://www.bearshare.com
http://www.limewire.com
http://www.winmx.com
http://www.filenavigator.com

With 100 programs still left... (1)

thumbtack (445103) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860489)

Resistance is futile the RIAA has been assimilated. they just don't realize it yet. Afternapster [afternapster.com] has a list of 100 other filesharing programs. Song long KaZaA. Next!

I was wondering if they'd bother to try to comply (0, Flamebait)

Merconium (551470) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860496)

It seemed to me that it was would be a rather fruitless thing to try stop KaZaa, and that the guys named in the suit were just gonna get screwed. Judge: "Shut it off." Them: "uhhhh...." I find it honorable that they are at least 'trying' to meet the responsibility set out. How can it be that the judicial system doesn't know that port blocking across many ISPs would be the only solution? Do judges really not talk to people in the know?

Serves ya right, you cheap bastards. (3, Flamebait)

tempest303 (259600) | more than 12 years ago | (#2860514)

All I can say to that is a big simpsons Nelson-style "HA-HA!"

Yeah, the content companies suck ass, no doubt, but that doesn't mean that NOT PAYING FOR THE SHIT YOU DOWNLOAD is going to make things any better. If you hate stupid restrictions, stop buying records from the opporessive major labels. Frequent places like Emusic.com, where the downloads are all real MP3s, no bullshit copy prevention. The albums are sold for a reasonable price, and the artists GET PAID.

And finally, would everyone stop acting like they're somehow oppressed because they actually have to PAY for their media? Cry me a river. Don't put up with copy prevention bullshit, but don't go back and *REINFORCE ITS APPARENT NEED* by "trading" stuff on Kazaa...
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