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FreeBSD 4.5 NOT Released (Updated)

timothy posted more than 12 years ago | from the congratulations-to-all-involved dept.

Announcements 173

Jordon Hubbard writes: "The latest release in the FreeBSD 4.X branch has been released after an extensive release engineering process. Important bugfixes for the TCP stack and NFS are included in this release. You can view the release notes and find a mirror here." Update: 01/24 21:42 GMT by Hemos :Fake submissions, not really released. Yah. Comedic value provided for the day.

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FreeASS 6.9 released... (-1)

Trolligula (527461) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896855)

And now, a page from CmdrTaco's diary:

Thursday, November 8th, 2001
11:34 am
Me want some DICK.......
Have you ever felt like you were going out of your mind...
That is the way i feel today. I'm looking at every man that walks
by my cubicle, here at Slashdot headquarters, wondering what would
it be like to suck them off.

I used to do that when I had other jobs and sometimes thats the
reason we ended up having sex. NOW.. if i was relly horny I would
take my friend at one of my jobs, tell him to meet me in the
last bathroom stall and I would suck him off.. or just get a taste.
There is one good thing about having sex on a nice cold desk...
and that is that the clean up is just a wipe away. OR if your like
me... a lick away.

Nowadays the one thing that I have a problem with is that I want to
suck a man that has red hair. I think the pink long cock, with its
cherry color head, throbing vane would look so great. Having red
hair would kinda be like if they had shaved. Nice blondish red hair
that you could see through. The sight of the balls being seen so
well and being the whitest of white that a person could be. WOW!
That sounds great... IF YOU KNOW A RED HEAD PLEASE send them my
way... I want they dick. Until then I will take any dick that I
can. I had a person come over to my home one day that never had a
person give him a blow job. You know that was the best feeling I
have ever had. Knowing that I gave someone something that made
them feel good... now I just wish he would become a friend so I
could suck him more. Name of Katz, JonKatz. Just wanted to write
and wanted to voice my request. So if you know of ANYONE that needs
their cock sucked, or if you need your cock sucked, cum to me...

-Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda

Re:FreeASS 6.9 released... (-1)

Troll4Jesus (552528) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896929)

Nice first post... Jesus 3 you.

John Walker Lindh is a fucking maggot (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897011)

... and should be released immediately into the rec room of the most violent maximum security prison available in the U.S. I can't decide which I hope for more:

1. Knowing he's being gang-ass-raped several times a day for the next forty years until he finally dies a "natural" death at the termination of his statistical life span, or...

2. Finding out he's been beaten to death by a fellow inmate, a la Jeffrey Dahmer.

Fucking traitor.

Slashdot sub-culture (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897070)

Trolls are great. There's a whole world swimming around under those other assholes up on top. I've gotten to putting the threshold to -1 to check out what's going on here. Now I want to be able to hide posts *above* my threshold. Fuck the damn "I hate microsoft-gimme karma faggots" and give me some What People Really Think.

tia

What about his free spirit mother? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897089)

His fucked-up mother, with the Zen-buddhist and Native-American "religion" spiritual-search pablum is what caused this. That and Marin County, California. Sheesh, is there anything more fucking useless than the trendy nincompoops in Marin County, California. Except when they're given a Kalashnikov rifle, then they're obviously WORSE than useless.

FiRST PS0T! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2896857)

W00H00! LOSERS! U SUK!

First post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2896868)

It's first post time again....

[talon]

Java (1, Redundant)

XBL (305578) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896874)

I think this release also comes with an official Sun JDK. Is this correct?

Re:Java (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2896934)

No, but it does come with extra unusability. Why anyone would use something as worthless as *BSD is beyond me. It doesn't enough have the rudimentary installation process of a Red Hat or a Mandrake. Absolutely pointless. Gimme Win2K of WinXP any day.

Re:Java (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897175)

On the contrary, anyone who could get tripped up by any of the Mandrake/Redhat/BSD installers is pretty much worthless.

Re:Java (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897223)

BSD is pretty much worthless. Seriously, what's the point? Giving something away for free? Yeah, right.

Whatever happened to the old adage "you get what you pay for"? Nothing, that's what.

Re:Java (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2896942)

Sergeant Barnes: Martin, get your boots on. And the next time I catch you spraying skeeter repellent on your fuckin' feet, I'm gonna court martial your nigger ass. Junior: Well then court-martial me motherfucker! Fuck my ass, send me to fucking Long Binh! You do your fucking work! You white folks have got your last klick out of Junior! Sergeant Barnes: O'Neil, get me that centipede. Sergeant O'Neill: Sarge? Sergeant Barnes: Yeah, that long hairy red and black bastard I found in the ammo creek. I'm gonna put it in this boy's crotch, see if he can walk. Doc: This is bad, man. I've got bad vibes here.

Re:Java (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2896960)

And the parent post comes with an official degree of idiocy for not bothering to read release notes or google search.

Re:Java (1)

jeffy124 (453342) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897191)

not according to the RFE [sun.com] asking for it.

FreeBSD Java (1, Redundant)

kin_korn_karn (466864) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896875)

Did the FreeBSD port of the JDK make it into 4.5?

bad link for release notes (0, Flamebait)

CoJoNEs (73698) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896877)

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.5R/notes.html
sure points to a bad link, too bad I dont know where

Re:bad link for release notes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2896898)

its a bad link.
who recalls the slackware fiasco?
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2181&cid=157 64 47

WTF? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2896883)

I thought BSD is dead? I read some comments on Slashdot about it.

A new FreeBSD release? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2896889)

Odd, I was lead to believe that *BSD was dying.

Re:A new FreeBSD release? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2896936)

-1, redundant

Has to be said (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2896891)

Netcraft officially confirms: *BSD is dying

Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] [amdest.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

Fact: *BSD is dead

Re:Has to be said (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897041)

You are obviously out of touch, or flame baiting.

There are quite a few OpenBSD users. The 7000 figure is probably sales of the CD-ROM set. I know quite a few people that aren't unix heads that run openbsd.

Who cares. FreeBSD and OpenBSD work for me, and lots of other people. Who cares about NetCrafts stupid reports.

Re:Has to be said (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897273)

Thanks for that non-information, Jordon.

FreeBSD and MacOS X? (1)

Paladeen (8688) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896893)

Will we see the improvements in FreeBSD 4.5 reflected in Darwin, the core of MacOS X?

Is Apple syncing Darwin releases with FreeBSD releases?

Re:FreeBSD and MacOS X? (2)

XBL (305578) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897028)

Mac OS X is based off of FreeBSD 3.5, if I remember correctly. Maybe eventually they will move to the 4.x series for Mac OS X, but they apparently wanted to use something time-tested (aka old).

Re:FreeBSD and MacOS X? (5, Informative)

jkh (3999) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897048)

A number of the ongoing improvements in FreeBSD-stable (from which 4.5 will come) have indeed been making it into Mac OS X.

Apple is also not syncronizing its Darwin releases with those of FreeBSD from a timing perspective, but technologies are certainly being shared between them. Apple has also been providing stuff back, with the recent filesystem exerciser utility that Apple provided being used to find a number of bugs in FreeBSD's NFS and softupdates code. It's all good, man!

Arrggg! (2)

chrysalis (50680) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896896)

I just submitted a pr for an update of pure-ftpd to 1.0.8, in hope that would be merged before 4.5 was released.
Too late :(

Re:Arrggg! (1)

Pinball Wizard (161942) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897106)

I think Slashdot got this story wrong. A couple of other posters are mentioning that RC3 was just released.


BTW, I'm still using pure-ftpd. Last time I replied to a comment of yours I was just trying it out, but now its in production. Works great! With the vulnerabilities in wu-ftp and others, hopefully you have gotten a lot more users.(pure-ftp is written with security in mind for those reading this comment.)

NVIDIA FreeBSD driver project +petition (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2896901)

Take a peek at this:
http://nvidia.netexplorer.org/

FreeBSD 4.5 RC3 came out last night (5, Informative)

Eugenia Loli (250395) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896903)

Are you sure 4.5-FINAL was released? The RC3 came out just last night and the group was scheduling about RC4 next week. And now Slashdot is reporting on 4.5-Final? I am not sure if this is a fake or not... The FreeBSD web site has not been updated yet. Waiting...

Re:FreeBSD 4.5 RC3 came out last night (1)

sammy.lost-angel.com (316593) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897024)

According to the page, it's now done. However, I think slashdot jumped the gun on this one, seeing how it hasn't even had time to reach all the mirrors. I'll wait a few days to do make world.

Re:FreeBSD 4.5 RC3 came out last night (2)

XBL (305578) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897043)

In the meantime, go download Dano...right Eugenia? ;-)

Re:FreeBSD 4.5 RC3 came out last night (0, Flamebait)

cpeterso (19082) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897065)

That some people might install FreeBSD 4.5 RC3 is no big deal. Most Slashdot users are used to using beta software, like Linux.

release notes (4, Insightful)

Phexro (9814) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896907)

looks like the links on that page are broken, and it seems that 4.5-release hasn't made it's way out to all the ftp sites yet.

in the mean time, here are the relnotes for 4.5-rc3 i386 [freebsd.org] alpha [freebsd.org]

No it wasn't (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2896908)

/. jumps the gun, again. It hasn't even
been released yet. They're still at
release candidate 3. Naught /. Never
check your facts.

404 on the i386 Release notes? (1)

bshuttleworth (178787) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896914)

The i386 [freebsd.org] Release notes give me a 404. Anyone know what's been updated (other than TCP and NFS)?

First FreeBSD Rules Post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2896917)

FREEBSD RULZ!!!!

FreeBSD suX0rZ! (-1, Flamebait)

kgbguy (553028) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896918)

c'mon, everyone and their fucking grandma knows that bsd sucks ass and the "bsd rulz, linux sux" advocates are a bunch of pathetic cocksuckers. why waste time with boring announcements?

FreeBSD is better than Linux (-1, Offtopic)

Ninjak (552197) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896919)

Linus should be sued for false advertising. If the pizza store down the street put up a giant sign that said "FREE PIZZA" but when you came in to get it he insisted that you vomit up all the pizza you ate before you left then you know he's be sued.

This is another example of a double standard by the US government. Socialist organizations such as the members of Linux always get special breaks and perks while big corporations are forced to bend over and pay. The members of Linux need to realize that us big corporations are tired of this and so we are going to stage a sit in to protest. The CEO's of the Fortune 500 companies are all going to get together and handcuff themselves to Linus' door knob on Saturday at 1:00 PM. All that are interested in protecting equal rights are welcome to join in.

If we work together then we can get these racist laws revoked!! Say NO to racism. DON'T USE LINUX!!

Re:FreeBSD is better than Linux (1)

SpookComix (113948) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897228)

U R wrong, plz fix, thx!

--SC

Hold your horses. (5, Informative)

bwulf (325) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896921)

Official release-date is Jan 26th, as can be seen here [freebsd.org] .

Slashdot jumped the gun, again [slashdot.org] .

You could try watching newvers.sh [freebsd.org] in CVS for a 4.5-RELEASE tag, or at least check the FTP sites [freebsd.org] .

4.5 is still in Release Candidate 3, as far as I know.

Keep an eye on the freebsd-announce list or the news page [freebsd.org] .

Release: Jan 26th! (4, Informative)

OctaneZ (73357) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896924)

Found this so amusing that it had to be posted in main thread:
Jan 25, 2002
Warn hubs@FreeBSD.org
Heads up email to hubs@FreeBSD.org to give admins time to prepare for the load spike to come.

/. ought to bring the spike in a little early. Also not that the packages aren't going to the ftp masters until tomorrow, the 25th, and the announcment and mirroring will occur on the 26th. Just a couple more days to wait for the next step in this great OS.

Twelve Days of Codefreeze (5, Funny)

kenneth_martens (320269) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896925)

On the very bottom of the FreeBSD 4.5 Release page, there the following: "It's been pointed out that this table is rather boring. Bruce Mah gave a slightly more interesting rendition of the 12 days of Code- Freeze. [freebsd.org] ".

An excerpt from that poem:

> As promised we've now entered the code freeze for RELENG_4. Please
> submit all MFC requests to re@FreeBSD.org before committing to this
> branch.

For your hacking and/or holiday pleasure, I give you: "The Twelve Days of Code-Freeze"

Sung to the tune of:"The Twelve Days of Christmas"
Words by:bmah@freebsd.org

On the first day of code-freeze, my -hackers gave to me:
A bad patch in the src/ tree.

On the second day of code-freeze, my -hackers gave to me:
Two flamewars,
And a bad patch in the src/ tree.

On the third day of code-freeze, my -hackers gave to me:
Three bikesheds,
Two flamewars,
And a bad patch in the src/ tree.

On the fourth day of code-freeze, my -hackers gave to me:
Four broken worlds,
Three bikesheds,
Two flamewars,
And a bad patch in the src/ tree.

Check this [freebsd.org] page for the rest.

What is a "bikeshed"? (1)

cpeterso (19082) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897033)

Three bikesheds,


What is a "bikeshed"?

Re:What is a "bikeshed"? (4, Informative)

warlock (14079) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897111)

It's in the FAQ [freebsd.org] . do check it out!

Re:What is a "bikeshed"? (-1)

Guns n' Roses Troll (207208) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897142)

Why not ask Arther "Two Sheds" Jackson?

Re:What is a "bikeshed"? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897208)

The color of a bikeshed is what 99% of all Linux developers spend their time worrying about.

NOPE (0, Flamebait)

VAXGeek (3443) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896933)

This just in: FreeBSD 4.5 is DYING. You don't have to be Kreskin to predict FreeBSD's future.

Re:NOPE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897046)

FreeBSD may be dying, but Vax is DEAD!

Re:NOPE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897110)

indeed.. red ink is already flowing like a river of blood!

Is this for real?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2896938)

Release Candidate #3 was only announced TODAY on the freebsd-stable list by Murray Stokely, and there's supposed to be a RC4 before 4.5 becomes final!

So, did someone jump the gun here?

Dear Mr. Hubbard (0)

2x4 (137904) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896941)

In the future it may be more prudent to release a new version before submitting to slashdot that you have released it. The newest release on ftp.freebsd.org is release canadate 3, at the time of this writing. Why must you jump your own gun?

I'm pretty sure this is NOT TRUE! (4, Informative)

eparusel (321350) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896946)

Here's a post by Murray Stokely on the FreeBSD-Stable list, at 2:07AM today:

==========
Our third 4.5 release candidate is now available :

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ 4. 5-RC3
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i38 6/ 4.5-RC3-install.iso

This release candidate fixes a number of issues that were reported
with RC2. Installations from aic(4)-based PCMCIA devices should now
be possible. For this RC, bge(4) was added to the GENERIC kernel and the
txp(4) device was moved over to the MFSROOT as a module. This should
allow network installations with Broadcom gigabit Ethernet
adapters.[1] A number of suggestions about the package set were
addressed with this RC, but unfortunately sawfish-gnome, fvwm2, and
xfmail are still unavailable. There will be one final release
candidate (RC4) before the final release is made available.

The testing guide and release notes have been updated with a few new
items :

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.5R/qa.html
http://www.freebsd.org/~bmah/relnotes

Thanks,

The FreeBSD 4.5 Release Engineering Team.

[1] This functionality has not been committed to -STABLE yet, a small
patch was patched to the build with "make release LOCAL_PATCHES=..".
The patch is available at
http://www.freebsd.org/~murray/patches/drivers.d if f, and simply turns
on a new device for the boot floppy.
==========

This seems a little fast, don't you think?
Without 4.5-RC4 being released, and without an announcement on FreeBSD-Announce?

Some really troubling news... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2896949)



Netcraft officially confirms: *BSD is dying

Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] [amdest.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

Fact: *BSD is dead

Lower-profile changes that made it in (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2896957)

I administer a large cluster (please no jokes) of FreeBSD systems at work, and I was pleased to see that several changes that I had been tracking in the -STABLE branch finally made it into a release. Among them:
  • Code path optimizations. One particularly interesting change was that data destined for loopback interfaces (e.g. 127.0.0.1) bypass congestion control and the TCP sequencing code. Likewise for UDP - ICMP port unreachable messages and the like are actually determined within the syscall now, rather than being discrete messages that are bounced around in the kernel.
  • Filesystem fixes. We had been having some trouble with devfs and freevxfs on several machines, and the fixes that were checked into CVS a few weeks back fixed them. It is with pleasure that I note that those changes made it into 4.5-RELEASE.
  • Stability fixes. There were some minor issues with the use of -llinfo and the route syscall that would sometimes cause kernel panics. Since we use shell scripts to update routing tables many times an hour, we ran into this from time to time, and it is fixed now.
  • Usability improvements. The core team has emphasized the need to provide a more useful /proc filesystem, so that it can contain many discrete pieces of valuable system information like it does in Linux. Thus, new handlers for registering and unregistering nodes under /proc have been implemented (although they are not used yet).
This is definitely the time to open your mind if you haven't already, and try using FreeBSD. It is stable, secure, reliable, and robust; it has grown into quite an excellent OS since the dog days of 3.0. Visit the mirrors [freebsdmirrors.org] and download an ISO today!

</evangelism>

freebsd guy

Re:Lower-profile changes that made it in (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897074)

stability fixes ? kernel panics ? and this is a stable os ?

Re:Lower-profile changes that made it in (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897303)

Hey dumb ass, FreeBSD has to evolve to. And, yes, it is stable. Stable enough to run Yahoo! and Hotmail. And BTW, it's more stable than Linux. So sit on it and rotate.

um, its not out yet (1)

jtkooch (553641) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896958)

Way to look before you leap. RELEASE is not out yet.

Re:um, its not out yet (1)

Flower (31351) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896998)

Someone must be saying "Damn you Magic 8-ball! Damn you!"

Release Notes Missing (0, Troll)

mosch (204) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896959)

Is it me, or do you have to be a bit brave or stupid to run an operating system that can't even provide working links to it's release notes? Just try clicking on 'i386' or 'alpha'. 404.

I used to be a huge fan of BSD, but it seems that as people have migrated to Linux, the quality has dropped significantly and details get missed, en masse. There's a reason why Linux is more popular.

Re:Release Notes Missing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2896990)

Haha, troll!

Good show.

Re:Release Notes Missing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2896994)

Betcha feel dumb now, huh?

Re:Release Notes Missing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897005)

You're absolutely right. Neither can I find the releases notes for 4.6, 4.7, 5.0, 5.1, or 5.2: they all give me four-oh-fours!

Damn those BSD idiots!

Re:Release Notes Missing (1)

_Bean_ (128235) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897012)

The reason for non-working release notes is it hasn't been released. Nice troll with "the quality has dropped significantly and details get missed, en masse" though.

Re:Release Notes Missing (2)

mosch (204) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897045)

Are you suggesting that slashdot posted misinformation, when they made an article titled 'FreeBSD 4.5 Released'? Come on, we all know that web journalism and the slashdot editorial team make for higher quality reporting than traditional media. That must be true, i read it on slashdot!

Re:Release Notes Missing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897121)

I think the poster was rather clear.

You are a troll. Watch out for open flames, as trolls burn well.

Re:Release Notes Missing (2, Informative)

mr (88570) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897035)

Is it me, or do you have to be a bit brave or stupid to run an operating system that can't even provide working links to it's release notes?


Is it me, or do you believe anything that is printed on /. as true?


It could be worse, it could be RedHat. Where you get experimental C compilers shipped with the OS, or have a NEW filesystem (extfs3) then not update the file systems man page (fs). And, provide no man pages or documentation in the .pdf's on how to make an extfs3 file system after you have made the system.


I'll take FreeBSD, and look to www.freebsd.org for any release info, not /.

Re:Release Notes Missing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897234)

You need to be pretty gosh darn stupid to miss the fact that it hasn't been released, and this was an error on slashdot's part. This may be the time to take a hard look at yourself; its pretty clear that the <i>details getting missed</i> are between the fingers and <i>your</i> brain.

Re:Release Notes Missing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897289)

Is it me, or do you have to be a bit brave or stupid
Looks like you are the stupid one. From the front page:

Update: 01/24 21:42 GMT by Hemos:Fake submissions, not really released. Yah. Comedic value provided for the day.

Congratz! Not only are you shown to be a troll, but a gullable one. Hopefully the meta-moderators will whack the people who modded you up as insightful and underrated. And reward the ones who called you what you are...a troll. Too bad 'stupid poster' is not a moderator option.

4.5 release is on saturday (1)

Da_Monk (88392) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896961)

the reason the links are busted is because no one stopped to read them. 4.5 is not out until the 26th. everyone calm down, and wait.

Ummm.... (2)

Flower (31351) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896963)

Checked the ftp site and I don't see it. RC3 is the most recent. The release schedule doesn't have it out until tomorrow and even then it isn't announced until the 26th after the mirrors have been updated.

That information was on the very pages this story linked to. Can anybody link to something I ain't seeing 'cause right now this seems a little premature.

*BSD is dying (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2896970)

It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying

Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

Fact: *BSD is dead

Erm, OK, this is bizarre... (5, Informative)

jkh (3999) | more than 12 years ago | (#2896999)

First off, I didn't announce anything concerning 4.5 so it's a little odd to see "Jordon Hubbard writes..." [sic] when I did nothing of the kind. 4.5-RELEASE has NOT yet happened and all that Murray Stokely, the primary release engineer, has announced is the availability of release candidate image #3. As we go along the FreeBSD release process, it's customary for the project to release release candidate images for pre-testing so that the final version will be as bug-free as possible and hopefully without any of the sort of brain-os which get caught in the first few hours of testing.

Finally, my first name is spelled "Jordan", like the river. A sure sign that this was a hoax. :)

Re:Erm, OK, this is bizarre... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897021)

Why do you continue to work on a project that has obviously failed? Your OS is years behind in functionality, has minimal hardware support, and is a complete waste of time. Just pack it in and go work on a source forge project or something.

Re:Erm, OK, this is bizarre... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897118)

Are you asking him to join the unnamed OS project whose "stable" version cannot become stable for more than year now? Get real...

Re:Erm, OK, this is bizarre... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897205)

JKH works for Apple on OS X, so yup, that's a great idea

Re:Erm, OK, this is bizarre... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897022)

Ha, I think this post is a hoax!

Re:Erm, OK, this is bizarre... (4, Troll)

selectspec (74651) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897083)

What's bizarre is not so much that this is hoax, but that a website managed by such incompetent idiots can be so successful.

Re:Erm, OK, this is bizarre... (2)

Forkenhoppen (16574) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897295)

I don't know about the idiot part, but I concur with the incompetent accusation.

Someone mod this guy up.

Re:Erm, OK, this is bizarre... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897221)

Why's everbody always picking on you?

I remember one day at Fry's there was a sign saying "Linux Day! Guest speaker Jordan Hubbard!"

I just wanted to curl up and die after that. So I attended the Video Conference, and some dumb lady kept bugging you abou getting her Epson printer working in Linux. I was about ready to tell her to shut the "F" up.

FreeBSD is a great OS, and I wish OSX the best of luck in bettering the computer world.

Re:Erm, OK, this is bizarre... (4, Funny)

Anonymous DWord (466154) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897232)

Finally, my first name is spelled "Jordan", like the river. A sure sign that this was a hoax. :)

Well, I don't know. That's what gave it validity, I thought. If it had been spelt correctly, on the other hand, there's no way I'd believe it!

Looks like FREEBSD can't handle the /. ......... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897009)

so they pulled the file :)

maybe they should host it on linux or NT boxen.

*BSD is dying (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897014)

It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying

Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

Recently, Slashdot confirmed that FreeBSD has been bucked away by WindRiver to FreeBSD Mall, for a carton of Winston's and a six-pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon. This only serves to confirm the fact that FreeBSD is unwanted, doomed to be passed around like a harelipped orphan from one foster parent to another.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

Fact: *BSD is dead

Re:*BSD is dying (0, Flamebait)

Xiphius (163630) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897113)

Let me guess, you're a Debian user? :-)

idiot...

muahahahhahahaaa...

BSD forever...

It's not dead! (4, Funny)

La1d (415132) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897030)

It is now official - Slashdot has confirmed: *BSD is alive and thriving

Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered AC crowd when Slashdot reported that FreeBSD has released a new version. This comes right on the heels of freeBSD going home, when Wind River and FreeBSD Mall Inc. published a joint press-release today announcing the sale of Wind River's FreeBSD assets to Bob Bruce, founder of Walnut Creek CDROM--the company that in 1993 first published FreeBSD. This was the company that almost a decade ago declared to the world that *BSD is alive and thriving!

The FreeBSD Mall web site has been redesigned, with many new products, including FreeBSD CDs, books, polo shirts, microfiber jackets, boxer shorts, bumper stickers, lapel pins, several different styles of t-shirts, mouse pads, travel mugs, buttons, sticker sheets, plate logos, denim shirts, CD cases, and paid support options.

FreeBSD and its close relatives NetBSD and OpenBSD all are open-source projects, meaning that anyone can see, change and distribute the underlying source code.

With the main FreeBSD distribution back in the hands of the record holding Free Software distributor Bob Bruce, trolls posting that *BSD is dead had better keep the "anonymous" in "anonymous coward."

*BSD is dying (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897044)

Netcraft has officially confirmed: *BSD is dying

Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

Recently, Slashdot confirmed that FreeBSD has been given away by WindRiver to FreeBSD Mall, for a carton of Winston's and a six-pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon. This only serves to confirm the fact that FreeBSD is unwanted, doomed to be passed around like a harelipped orphan from one foster parent to another.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

Fact: *BSD is the weakest link. Good-bye.

Re:*BSD is dying (1)

Foozy (552529) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897166)

You're full of shit.

BSD is not dying (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897052)

Is *BSD really dying?
An invesigation into the sociological and technological underpinnings of the *BSD projects.
Mark A. Litten, PhD.

The simple answer to this question is no, *BSD is not dying. To even suggest that it is reveals a serious misunderstanding of the nature of *BSD.

The history of the various BSDs is well known, and I shall not reinterate it here. Suffice to say that it was the original "open source" project. However, the fact that it is open source nature is not what makes the accusations of dying incorrect. *BSD has a remarkable ability to survive despite many hardships and obvious disadvantages.

First, I will take a quick look at the environment that *BSD finds itself in. In early 2002, *BSD has been out-evolved and lost all of its advantages to the burgeoning Linux community and Microsoft Windows 2000/XP. Let's take them one by one:

  1. Stability. Once the self-declared king of stability, FreeBSD is now trembling in the shadow of the mighty uptimes achieved by the average Linux box. Even Windows is capable of outlasting a BSD installation.
  2. Speed. FreeBSD once ruled the world of TCP/IP stacks - these days it manages a solid last place in recent tests against Linux and Windows 2000.
  3. Scalability. While this was never a strong point with *BSD, it is now utterly over-shadowed by Linux and its spread down into smaller and smaller devices and upwards onto mainframes and supercomputers. Even Windows 2000 datacenter can out-scale FreeBSD due to its extremely poor SMP support.
  4. Security. Despite the "security auditing" carried out on the OpenBSD codebase, its much-vaunted security arises from not having anything running on the system - one might also claim that a Commodore 64 has not had a remote root exploit in 5 years. In the real world, the security offered by both Linux and Windows 2000/XP is far greater.
  5. Porting. One of the chief claims made by NetBSD is one of portability. Yet Linux is found on a much wider and more disparate range of hardware than NetBSD - see also Scalability.

Even with all these disadvantages, and its sudden fall from king of open source operating systems to whipping boy, *BSD continues to limp along. Were this purely a technical matter, the few remaining *BSD developers would have moved to the more active Linux world months ago. The only explanation is that *BSD is not a technical project, it is a religious one, and like any group attached to irritional superstition, *BSD is extraordinarily difficult to kill. *BSD is the Islam of the operating system world.

A strong claim you say? Perhaps, but a quick look at a *BSD newsgroup shows a number of fundamentalist traits - self-flagellation; fanatical hatred of other, rival, open source projects; bizarre intiation rites; and factional in-fighting.

So no, *BSD is not dead or dying. Even though it is out-competed on all sides, it chugs along happy in the knowledge that it is the one true path. *BSD zealots can take comfort in this at least, if nothing else.

FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE is NOW Self Powered !! (1)

WndrBr3d (219963) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897058)

Keeping up with rescent trends in technology and always not to be outdone, FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE now comes with the 'Self-Power' option.

This new option allows the machine FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE is running on to be powered why the whirring sound of the hard drives alone !! All that is needed is a 9V battery to kick start the system into effect.

Canadian inventors are credited with this discovery and were quoted as saying, "So like, uh, we just did what we know, eh ?"

Re:FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE is NOW Self Powered !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897061)

:-)

You beat me to it.

Re:FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE is NOW Self Powered !! (2)

imp (7585) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897308)

Keeping up with rescent trends in technology and always not to be outdone, FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE now comes with the 'Self-Power' option.

...

All that is needed is a 9V battery to kick start the system into effect

Actually, you misunderstand. The Self-Power option is so that FreeBSD can be the first OS to ship in the "potateo powered web server" configuration out of the box, rather than needing patches to the base OS to do that.

:-)

Repeat article (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897064)

Wasn't this already reported on slashdot [slashdot.org] ?

MUAHAHAHA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897073)

You fell for it again! LOOOOSERS!

RESEARCH! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897078)

I guess it would be too much to ask for stories to be researched first before posting them to your highly acclaimed news source...

Flaimbait (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897087)

Verifying submissions is HARD!

Troubled times for *BSD (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897139)

So why now? Why did *BSD fail? Once you get past the fact that *BSD is fragmented between a myriad of incompatible kernels, there is the historical record of failure and of failed operating systems. *BSD experienced moderate success about 15 years ago in academic circles. Since then it has been in steady decline. We all know *BSD keeps losing market share but why? Is it the problematic personalities of many of the key players? Or is it larger than their troubled personalities?

The record is clear on one thing: no operating system has ever come back from the grave. Efforts to resuscitate *BSD are one step away from spiritualists wishing to communicate with the dead. As the situation grows more desperate for the adherents of this doomed OS, the sorrow takes hold. An unremitting gloom hangs like a death shround over a once hopeful *BSD community. The hope is gone; a mournful nostalgia has settled in. Now is the end time for *BSD.

*BSD is dying (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897181)

Netcraft has verified: *BSD is dying

Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead harelipped child

Fact: *BSD is dead

*Linux is dying (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2897247)

Yay! Another great FreeBSD release is coming.
Too bad Linux is dying.

Don't you mean... (4, Funny)

sulli (195030) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897276)

from the yhbt-yhl-hand dept. ?

bsd user Alan Thicke, Dead. (0, Troll)

Alan_Thicke (553655) | more than 12 years ago | (#2897297)

Just heard the sad news on CBC radio. Comedy writer/actor Alan Thicke was found dead in his home this morning. Even if you never watched his work, you can appreciate his work in 80's television. Truly a Canadian icon. He will be missed :( Show me That Smile: Show me that smile again. Ooh show me that smile. Don't waste another minute on your crying. We're nowhere near the end. We're nowhere near. The best is ready to begin. As long as we got each other We got the world Sitting right in our hands. Baby rain or shine; All the time. We got each other Sharing the laughter and love.
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