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41 comments

Thank goodness! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2989641)

Now Miguel "Benedict Arnold" de Icaza can help .net "embrace and extend" FreeBSD as well. It's a salad day for closed-source monopolists!

~~~

In the distance... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2989686)

Windows users happily use their machines.

Window managers? GNOME? KDE?

No, Windows just works for them.

.Net? On FreeBSD?!? (2)

ScumBiker (64143) | more than 12 years ago | (#2989931)

I'm assuming that someone is porting the mono project to FreeBSD also. Should be interesting.

Yes, but a port from Microsoft (3, Informative)

Baki (72515) | more than 12 years ago | (#2992976)

See: this [microsoft.com] or this [oreillynet.com] I'm not sure about the current status though.

So what ... big deal. (2, Funny)

nosferatu-man (13652) | more than 12 years ago | (#2990255)

So what was so difficult about (cd /usr/ports/gnome; make install),
anyway?

(jfb)

Re:So what ... big deal. (1)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 12 years ago | (#2990706)

that's what I was thinking.

%ls -d /var/db/pkg/gnome*
/var/db/pkg/gnomeaudio-1.4.0
/var/db/pkg/gnomedb-0.2.90_3
/var/db/pkg/gnomecanvas-0.14.0
/var/db/pkg/gnomelibs-1.4.1.2_2
/var/db/pkg/gnomecontrolcenter-1.4.0.1
/var/db/pkg/gnomeprint-0.29
/var/db/pkg/gnomecore-1.4.0.4_2
/var/db/pkg/gnomevfs-1.0.3

mind you I've never tried to run Gnome proper, enlightenment is my WM and I feel no compunction to change.

Re:So what ... big deal. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026637)


mind you I've never tried to run Gnome proper, enlightenment is my WM and I feel no compunction to change.


Mind you I've never tried to run BSD proper, Pepsi is my cola and I feel no compuction to change.

IOW, gnome is *not* a window manager. It doesn't even include a window manager (although kde does).

Re:So what ... big deal. (1)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026994)

gnome is *not* a window manager

hehe oh yeah well never mind

whatever it is I don't run it

I prefer diet coke too

Re:So what ... big deal. (4, Interesting)

Arandir (19206) | more than 12 years ago | (#2995675)

Difficulty #1: Gnome is written for Linux. Since FreeBSD doesn't follow the LSB (or what Gnome thinks the LSB should be), there are of course problems. Nautilus simply couldn't build under FreeBSD for the longest time.

Difficulty #2: Gnome is written for Linux. Linuxisms abound in Gnome. To be fair, they abound in KDE as well, thus the existence of the FreeBSD KDE Project. Instead of submitting endless bug reports to Gnome, only to see them closed as "not a problem on my Debian box", I suspect the FGP will do much of this work fixing themselves, then submitting the patches to Gnome.

Difficulty #3: This is still FreeBSD, after all. Someone has to maintain these ports. Since there's quite a few of them (and more being gobbled up by the 'g' prefix every day) it only stands to reason to have a central point of portage.

Re:So what ... big deal. (1)

efgbr (470166) | more than 12 years ago | (#3013573)

1. Nautilus wasn't working on FreeBSD but was on Sun Solaris. Weird, huh?

2. Could you please point out some "Linuxisms"? I'm curious.

Re:So what ... big deal. (-1)

Commienst (102745) | more than 12 years ago | (#3016792)

It sucks so bad, GNOME has to be a linux project. Linux is dying, BSD thriving!

Re:So what ... big deal. (1)

marcovje (205102) | more than 12 years ago | (#3023160)


Nautilus compiles and runs afaik, but is a bit shaky.

I ran make install in and Gnumric and Nautilus ports trees just to see it, and it compiled instantly and
ran. Both of them, with no Gnome installed before.
(about a month ago btw)

However IMAP functionality of Nautilus crashed, GNumeric ran fine.

Re:So what ... big deal. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3025598)

Who do you think created the /usr/ports/gnome directory?

YOU?

NO!

The people who created it, are also the ones who work very hard everyday to make gnome apps work on FreeBSD, because the people @gnome.org don't really pay much attention to these things.

If it wasnt for Joe Marcus Clarke and Maxim Sobolev, you wouldnt even have gnome on freebsd!

So go get a clue!

As a FreeBSD power user... (2, Redundant)

smnolde (209197) | more than 12 years ago | (#2990523)

I will not be installing gnome bloatware^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hcomponents on my workstation.

Re:As a FreeBSD power user... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2991896)

As a FreeBSD power user...

Nobody who calls himself a "power user" is actually a real "power user."

Re:As a FreeBSD power user... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2991971)

I'm a power user on my Windows NT system at home.

Re:As a FreeBSD power user... (1)

Arandir (19206) | more than 12 years ago | (#2996378)

Proof!

Re:As a FreeBSD power user... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2992479)

haha!

C'mon lads! (1)

gruntvald (22203) | more than 12 years ago | (#2991047)

lets see if we can make a BSD story reach double digits in the number of posts!

(intended to be funny, not insulting)...

Re:C'mon lads! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2991092)

ok, here's a post

Re:C'mon lads! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2991117)

..and another! FreeBSD Rocks! Linux SUX!

Re:C'mon lads! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2991151)

This should be about #10. FreeBSD Still Rocks.
Linux sucks, fuck those damned Linux Kernel 2.5.9.3.3.3.3 release announcements! FreeBSD kicks ass, we users should submit slashdot articles about every single cvs update! Wouldn't that be something! haha! Screw Linux!

Re:C'mon lads! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2991497)

You don't need to be a Kreskin [HighTimes.org] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a very bright future. In fact there won't be any future at all for linux because *BSD is nearly SMP. Things are looking very good for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to win market share.

Re:C'mon lads! (2)

taion (304184) | more than 12 years ago | (#2992087)

Is that counting the "*BSD is dying trolls", or not? (:

Finally (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2991240)

After reading the problems certain users have had with GNOME I welcome a FreeBSD/GNOME site. Many Linux users don't realise just how based on Linux a few core GNOME components really are.

One good example is the nautilus port. Not only did it take a long time to appear in the ports tree it still has a few problems (especially stability) on my FreeBSD-4.x systems.

I think this site will also benefit Linux users because patches will most probably flow back into GNOME and make it more portable for other systems and expand the user base of many important projects, i.e. nautilus, evolution, etc.

cheers

Portable code. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2991283)

GNOME is an example of what happens when you try to clone Microsoft.

You get bloated, non-portable code.

Re:Portable code. (3, Interesting)

aphor (99965) | more than 12 years ago | (#3006693)

This makes no sense, in a non sequitur way that pretends to know about software development.

GNOME is an example of what happens when you try to clone Microsoft.

You get bloated, non-portable code.

In actuality, the reason Gnome is bloated is that making modular reusable code isn't easy. How general/compatible do you make the component functions/classes? How autonomous/integrated should you make your application? Which libraries should you depend on, and which should you rewrite? The reason Gnome isn't portable is that in order to simplify the above problem, inadvertently or on purpose, developers tend to forget about other platforms (system dependencies) and concentrate on application dependencies. It's a symptom of just how hard these problems are. We have some lofty goals for our software these days, please pardon them for getting it somewhat wrong while they figure out how to do things.

It would be a crime not to mention that... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2991442)



It is now official - HighTimeshas confirmed: *BSD is dying

Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently HighTimes confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest HighTimes survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last [marijuana.org] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

Fact: Linux is for homosexuals,
and slashdot is for sickos

*BSD is dying (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2992003)

It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying

Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

Recently, Slashdot confirmed that FreeBSD has been given away by WindRiver to FreeBSD Mall, for a carton of Winston's and a six-pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon. This only serves to confirm the fact that FreeBSD is unwanted, doomed to be passed around like a harelipped orphan from one foster parent to another.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

Fact: *BSD is the weakest link. Good-bye.

Re:*BSD is dying (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2992055)

It's kinda sad really; to be so afraid, that is. Makes me wonder how Tuxie got such a big-bad rep when the Lin-trolls are scared so easily.

I dunno, maybe that's why I see so many "Lin*x user switching to BSD" posts these days.

Oh, the pain of installing or upgrading. (4, Informative)

Jayson (2343) | more than 12 years ago | (#2992637)

There are two great way to install on FreeBSD:
pkg_add -r gnome
or for those of you who like source:
cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome; make install
To upgrade application gnome-app:
portupgrade -r gnome-app
You might also want to install the package/port called gnome-fifth-toe, since that will include things like Gnumeric, GNUCash, Gimp, etc....

Hard times for *BSD (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2997253)

So why now? Why did *BSD fail? Once you get past the fact that *BSD is fragmented between a myriad of incompatible kernels, there is the historical record of failure and of failed operating systems. *BSD experienced moderate success about 15 years ago in academic circles. Since then it has been in steady decline. We all know *BSD keeps losing market share but why? Is it the problematic personalities of many of the key players? Or is it larger than their troubled personalities?

The record is clear on one thing: no operating system has ever come back from the grave. Efforts to resuscitate *BSD are one step away from spiritualists wishing to communicate with the dead. As the situation grows more desperate for the adherents of this doomed OS, the sorrow takes hold. An unremitting gloom hangs like a death shround over a once hopeful *BSD community. The hope is gone; a mournful nostalgia has settled in. Now is the end time for *BSD.

Lies about Serbia (-1)

Commienst (102745) | more than 12 years ago | (#2998065)

Turkey Weeps Crocodile Tears

by Dan Dostinic (8-3-00)

"Ankara urges UN to improve Kosovo Turks' rights." And therein lies a tale...

www.tenc.net

A July 31 Agence France Presse (AFP) report states that "Turkish Foreign Minister Ismail Cem urged Monday the head of the United Nations interim administration in Kosovo, Bernard Kouchner, to boost the rights of the Turkish community in the province." The article cites Huseyin Dirioz, a Turkish foreign ministry official.

Turkey's concern stems from the decision of some 60,000 Kosovo Turks to boycott municipal elections because the "UN mission did not issue registration forms in Turkish."

The article further states that "the Turks enjoyed cultural autonomy under Belgrade's rule and did not join the Albanian struggle for independence although the two communities have a common faith in Islam."

AFP does not explore the implications of the statement that the Turks, a minority in Serbia as are Albanians, "enjoyed cultural autonomy under Belgrade's rule" during the period (i.e., the 1990s) when Albanians were fighting for 'independence.'

Didn't Western leaders claim they had no choice but to bomb Yugoslavia to restore to ethnic Albanians the cultural autonomy they had been supposedly denied because the Serbian "rulers" loathed their Muslim faith? And wasn't the Muslim faith brought to - and in many case forced on - the Balkans by...the Turks?

Is something wrong with this picture?

If Serbian officials hate Muslims, why is it that ethnic Turks in Serbian Kosovo "enjoyed cultural autonomy under Belgrade's rule"? And why are the Turks complaining that now, under enlightened NATO rule, they can't even get the UN to print Turkish language election ballots?

Could it be that Belgrade was speaking the truth?

Could it be that Yugoslavia never took away ethnic Albanians' cultural autonomy, that is, judicial functions, schools, hospitals and mass media in the Albanian language? Could it be that in fact the Albanian secessionist movement organized a boycott of Albanian language institutions (such as schools) in order to score propaganda points with the West? [See footnote 2]

And consider Turkey. Turkey was a strategic participant in the 78 day bombing of Yugoslavia which President Clinton said was necessary in order to insure "respect for minority rights." (Clinton, 'New York Times,' Op-ed, May 23, 1999)

And now Turkey has 1,000 troops in Kosovo.

According to recent reports, ethnic Albanians are complaining about lawlessness in Kosovo [Footnote 1] Refugees are afraid to return, fearing attacks by Albanian extremists. A recent UN report described the UN-created Kosovo Protection Corps as engaging in:

"criminal activities - killings, ill-treatment/torture, illegal policing, abuse of authority, intimidation, breaches of political neutrality and hate speech." ( From The UN appoints an alleged war criminal in Kosovo, by Michel Chossudovsky, at
http://emperor.vwh.net/articles/chuss/unandthe.h tm )

Given these conditions, shouldn't there be a renewal of demands for inquiries in all capitals that took part in the bombing of Yugoslavia? The question to which we need an answer is: WHY?

The AFP article closes with the following: "Cem warned that Turkey could limit its contributions to Kosovo's security if the rights of the Turkish community were not rectified."

What "security" Mr. Cem?

Dan Dostinic is a Canadian antiwar activist.

Official 9-11 Story (-1)

Commienst (102745) | more than 12 years ago | (#2998099)

Russian Air Force Chief Says
Official 9-11 Story Impossible

[Posted 13 September 2001]

As one considers the terrible events of Sept. 11 and observes U.S. media reaction, so pervasive and consistently military that it appears choreographed, doubts increase. The following is from pravda.ru, a Russian language Website (politically centrist, nationalist). In some places the English translation is confusing, so we added alternate phrasing in brackets.
- Jared Israel

[Start report from Russia] "Generally it is impossible to carry out an act of terror on the scenario which was used in the USA yesterday." This was said by the commander-in-chief of the Russian Air Force, Anatoli Kornukov. "We had such facts [i.e., events or incidents] too", - said the general straightforwardly. Kornukov did not specify what happened in Russia and when and to what extent it resembled the events in the US. He did not advise what was the end of air terrorists' attempts either.

But the fact the general said that means a lot. As it turns out the way the terrorists acted in America is not unique. The notification and control system for the air transport in Russia does not allow uncontrolled flights and leads to immediate reaction of the anti-missile defense, Kornukov said. "As soon as something like that happens here, I am reported about that right away and in a minute we are all up," - said the general. [End report from Russia.]

Pasted from: The Emperor's New Clothes [tenc.net]

I need to share this with the *BSD community (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3002252)

I never thought I had people to look towards as guidance within my family when I was growing up. Being an inappreciative son who was, to put it bluntly, spoilt beyond all belief, it is a shame that upon leaving the wing of my parents, how much of their greatness did I realize I overlooked.

Growing up I never wanted to be straight-edged. I always wanted to bend the rules, get around them, make them work for me. Stringent upbringing at a catholic household coupled with strong Chinese tradition can be overbearing, especially when the parents were unwilling to bend their morales to please anyone.

I guess I inherited their stubbornness, and neither party was willing to concede. Still they supported me for the duration at college, until father could no longer tolerate the wastefulness of my ways. I ended up dropping out, thought I was good at IT, and could live without his monetary supply.

Well, I live without his monetary supplies, but just because I was a geek, an above average geek, didn't mean I was great one. Humility came hard, and my folks' reasoning over the course of my upbringing echoed throughout the last 2 years. Wonders what hindsight does to ones perspective.

Neither mom nor dad ever took 2nd place in their achievements, may it be academically, finicially nor moralistic. They were successful people in what they did, well known amongst their own professional community, and they never ever had to break a rule. They were upstanding citizens, they adhere to their morals and whilst they did once in awhile break a sweat whilst being prolific professionals and incredible parents, they succeeded admirably. I admire their resourcefulness, their intellectual capabilities and most of all I want to be as good a human being as they are. They succeeded in being outstanding parents, I was the one who was a tad 'late'.

Two years ago I left school and became a drifter. I had no means to afford the next meal. My father offered me one last opt out ticket. Come home, we'll make you work and give you guidance. I didn't take the ticket, I didn't take the compounding bribes bestowed on me from mother either. I stayed, reeled back to their teachings many years ago, and started to make sense of them. Their teachings had roots in other places, not all of it was original, but their explanations to me were never over wrought with detail. It was to the point, and in hindsight made perfect sense.

1. You don't have to break rules to win. Use them to your advantage, Play by them and hold your own. People respect you for it.

2. Never win for the sake of winning alone. You don't see grand masters venturing to coffee houses playing the worst players to satisfy their ego. You shouldn't have to do that to stroke yours either. Winning should take effort, cunning and intellect, otherwise the victory is worthless. (father taught me how to play chess and basketball)

3. There are free lunches, but it is rare. Always give back whenever you can.

4. Pissing off mom will end up getting back to dad. Never will father escape the sharp end of the stick. This goes for negotiating with any couple. Piss off the woman, and you won't get what you want.

5. There is a time and a place for everything. Pick the right time, the right place and the right approach. As quoted from the person who cited Dorothy Parker as one of his heros, getting away with something outrageous involves some sort of a masquerade as to hide the true nature of said action. Pick your masquerade carefully if you are going to escape the wrath of your audience, especially if you demand them to do something for you.

6. Never step on people unless you absolutely have to, and if you do, make sure they deserve it.

7. If you are to step on someone, make damn sure they can never ever ever hurt you back.

8. There are three things that are important in life, and they go in descending order of importance. These are Family, Integrity and money. They are often at conflict and seldom do you get all three in your favor. Always strive for the first and second ideals. Money alone is never a reason enough.

9. Nobody can do the job with as much thoroughness as you want them to do it. Try and do as much on your own.

10. Broaden the horizons of your knowledge base. You can't know too much about anything. Have fun learning and try to act as humble as possible in public.

11. If someone bothers to take the time to teach you something, listen carefully, pay attention, especially if they are good at it.

12. Never depend your success on someone elses' fuck-up.

13. Keep to your rules of conduct and stand by your own opinions. If you are right, people will see why, even if they won't admit it. If you are wrong, change your mind. Be flexible.

14. Never let people's praises cloud your judgment. Humility not only comes from your peers, but from your own envisionment of perfection. Strive to be as close to your idea of perfection as possible, enjoy getting there. The blood, sweat and toil are the most satisfying.

15. Do what makes you happy

Hard times for *BSD (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3012165)

Sowhy now? Why dd *BSD fail? Once you get past the fact that *BSD is fragmented between a myriad of incompatible kernels, there is the historical record of failure and of failed operating systems. *BSD experienced moderate success about 15 years ago in academic circles. Since then it has been in steady decline. We all know *BSD keeps losing market share but why? Is it the problematic personalities of many of the key players? Or is it larger than their troubled personalities?

The record is clear on one thing: no operating system has ever come back from the grave. Efforts to resuscitate *BSDre one step away from spiritualists wishing to communicate with the dead. As the situation grows more desperate for the adherents of this doomed OS, the sorrow takes hold. An unremitting gloom hangs like a death shround over a once hopeful *BSD community. The hope is gone; a mournful nostalgia has settled in. Now is the end time for *BSD.

Re:Hard times for *BSD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3020883)

>> *BSD is fragmented between a myriad of incompatible kernels...

ROFL! Someone's really Linux brain washed... That's hilarious! I really have to believe it's a joke (to have to not make sense like this) or someone who's extremly stupid!
LOL!!! Sh*t, I need to show people this... Too bad it's under 'anonymous coward'.

Good thing BSD isn't 'just a kernel' unlike Linux (as the original poster seems to think) or hell it would be fragmented like Linux.

Good'ol *BSD, saves the day again!

How many linux distro's do you want to run today?
Last I counted, 288 various fragmented distros.
Sorry boss, I don't know that distro, but I know distro #1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 66, 121 & 124 just not 4, 6, 8-65, 67-120, 122-123 & 125-288! Oh, and I downloaded this week's kernel, tomorrow next kernel and the day after next kernel!
Sorry boss, need to reboot our servers to update the kernel for today!

We're not @ 2.4.x-pre-patch-1b4-p1 only 2.4.x-pre-patch-0b4-p0.1.
I'll patch our already patched kernels, with the patches to patch those patches! Sorry boss, this is the 'Linux' way!

Oh, expect security holes in this week's release too, and next week's will have serious file system corruption problems yet again!

Here's lame trolling for you troll god!

Re:Hard times for *BSD (1)

marcovje (205102) | more than 12 years ago | (#3023137)

I'm BSD'er, but this is nonsense.

The frequent inbetween releases for linux kernels
are to be able to have some more broad testing, since
keeping a "make world" environment working is somewhat more complicated with that much
distributions, embedded use etc.

But BSD isn't doing that bad. Yesterday installed FreeBSD 4.5 on my laptop, and to my surprise it detected all devices of both laptop and docking station.
It's an older laptop, but still....

why is this being covered? (0, Troll)

ideut (240078) | more than 12 years ago | (#3022908)

Since Steve Jobs decided to close source FreeBSD, I don't understand why anyone would carry on following its sorry demise. It seems to me that Linux is the only credible alternative?

Re:why is this being covered? (0)

deep13 (157030) | more than 12 years ago | (#3032172)

what the hell are you talking about? freebsd is still as open as it ever was. Jobs just "borrowed" it (along with jordan hubbard) for OSX.

What happened to OpenOffice? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3043101)

It doesn't seem to run under Linux ABI and there aren't any ports that work on FreeBSD?
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