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Peek-a-Boo(ty)

Hemos posted more than 12 years ago | from the pirate-treasure dept.

Privacy 297

Anemophilous Coward writes "Tom's Hardware has a story detailing cDc's new anonymity app, just demonstrated Sunday. Peek-A-Booty is designed to let surfers access sites blocked by government restrictions, and is essentially, a distributed proxy network. It uses a peer-to-peer model, masking the identity of each node. This means the user can route around censorship that blocks citizens' access to specific IP addresses, because the censor doesn't know they're going there. There is also a website dedicated to the project."

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fp! (-1)

The BOFH Troll (549884) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026692)

FIrst post bitches!

Re:fp! (-1, Offtopic)

govtcheez (524087) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026720)

Many congratulations, sir!

Re:fp! (-1)

The BOFH Troll (549884) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026736)

This is my first successful first post!

I feel so happy as a troll. Can't wait until tomorrow as it is Troll Tuesday. The competition will be hot for FP!

Re:fp! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026803)

You have been IP banned because you haven't let me stick my tiny cock in your ass. Get the fuck off Slashdot.

-- CmdrTaco
Pants are still optional, but I named my right hand Kathleen Fent.

Re:fp! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026734)

Your fp has been claimed to AC. Sorry wannabe troll but you LOSE. Fuck you, fuck your mother, fuck your father, fuck all of you. Fuck America. Fuck freedom. Fuck liberties. Fuck civil rights. Fuck mackga. Fuck trolls. Fuck Vladinator. Fuck perdida. Fuck bc. Fuck adequacy. Fuck flikx. Fuck crapflooders. Fuck cyborg_monkey. Fuck evil_spork. Fuck cmdertaco. Fuck klerck. Fuck carp flounderson. Fuck tastybeefjerky. Fuck all the crapflooders. Fuck anyone who posts at -1. Fuck niggers. Fuck you. Fuck 'em all. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.

Same effect as their previous software (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026693)

Will this be vaporware like their last piece of Holy Grail software? Back Orifice made cDc famous, but recently they seem to be irrelevant.

And FP.

Re:Same effect as their previous software (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026794)

AC shitbag, you have been IP banned for criticizing cDc. Get a fucking clue, install a and do apt-get install RMS's_penis on your ass.

-- CmdrTaco
Pants are still optional, but I named my right hand Kathleen Fent.

hi this is a fp and i am a winnar (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026700)

woot otototototooto adfgdfg hhihi ihhihi
kekekeke ^^^^_^^^^ winnar fpfpfpffpp !!!
amaeiericia if love americang # ### % $KEKEKEK
kekekeke $^^_^_^_^_^_^^^^___^

hi hih hi

fp

w00t! w00t! w00t! w00t! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026775)

Mod the l33t parent up!

Re:hi this is a fp and i am a winnar (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026782)

No, sir, you are a nigger and a shitbag and you have been IP banned for being so damned lame.

-- CmdrTaco
Pants are still optional, but I named my right hand Kathleen Fent

Easier way? (2)

Peyna (14792) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026705)

Isn't there a much easier way to do this? I know a lot of people that have simple proxies set up on an address that they know isn't blocked, then you can access everything you need to through them. (HTTP at least). Very simple solution to the problem.

Aside - I first read cDc as 'Center for Disease Control', heh, sure changed the article.

Easily blocked too... (3, Interesting)

Nijika (525558) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026730)

THe problem is restrictive governments have people on staff to look for stuff like this. This app (while I haven't tested it) pulls from multiple sources. I like the idea a lot. Sorta moving towards a P2P web network where you can browse content like you do now but peer to peer rather than client / server.

Re:Easier way? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026911)

Distributed anonymous proxies, hmm
sounds like a nice way to mount attack
onto a target withouth finding the original
source.

To Peek-A-Booty developers: ever thought
of creating a distributed document caching
scheme for your anonymous proxy system, sounds
like an idea.

DarkSkies.

Let's see if I understand... (1, Funny)

MarsDude (74832) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026710)

If someone has blocked you from the PrOn sites, you get this device and you still get to peek-a-booty ???

Sad News - Goatse.cx guy DEAD (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026711)

I just heard the sad news on BBC radio. Web entreprenuer/pioneer goatse.cx guy was found dead in his home this morning. Even if you never admired his work [goatse.cx] , you can appreciate what he did for the 'last frontier' of the internet.

Reports are that he died from complications resulting from "Peek-a-Boo(ty)". Truly a internet icon. He will be missed :(

Good for some, nightmare for others (5, Interesting)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026712)

I can see both the good and bad of this application.

On the good side: China. Folks over there who have to deal with the gigantic "Firewall O' Death" (also known as the "Damn it, Communism works so stop reading about how it doesn't" Firewall) can possibly use this tool to get to the outside information they need to keep spreadin' the news that "Information good."

On the other side, as a Security Manager in a bank who's sometimes asked to go find out if person XYZ has been accessing nakedhairyeyebrowedcheerleaders.com, I can see how this utility might make it impossible for me to do my job.

So I've got mixed feelings on this utility.

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (2, Insightful)

base3 (539820) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026750)

On the other side, as a Security Manager in a bank who's sometimes asked to go find out if person XYZ has been accessing nakedhairyeyebrowedcheerleaders.com

What exactly does that have to do with security? Doesn't a "security manager" have anything better to do? If anything, be concerned because it's an encrypted channel for information to move in an out, not that someone might <gasp> be doing some personal surfing on the job</gasp>.

If these sorts of applications make it harder for security "managers" to play Network nazi (small 'n'--Godwin's law does no apply here), that that is an added benefit, so far as I see.

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026853)

What exactly does that have to do with security?


If you have people sitting around looking at porno all that, the courts call that a "hostile work environment". The company can be sued for a lot of money if someone decides to be a 'victim' and gets offended by the person in question looking at porno.

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (2, Informative)

base3 (539820) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026854)

That makes it a personnel issue, not a security issue.

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (1)

Stonehand (71085) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026883)

*shrug*

It's a longshot, but I could see how in some circumstances that might be potential blackmail material -- e.g. the employee is married to someone who wouldn't tolerate that sort of thing.

That's aside from any liability the bank may have if it knows about the browsing but fails to do anything about it (sexual harrassment suits -- 'hostile environment' and that sort of thing). That's not quite a security issue, 'tho.

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026887)

You've obviously never had sexual harassment suits brought against your company, have you? Oh, you're a l33t 18yr old in study hall, I forgot...

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026927)

You jackass, being a security manager at a abnk is a waste of life. The 18 year old is SO MUCH MORE VALUABLE than your forgettable existance.

Youth is king, and your life is nothing.

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (3, Insightful)

Rupert (28001) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026754)

Where I work they have the drones' boxen locked down so they can't change their proxy settings. Thus PeekaBooty is not a problem.

The more inspired drones have installed Opera, which doesn't require administrator access to install in Windows. They could presumably use PB. They're a small minority, though.

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026779)

If they're drones, and have successfully installed Opera, and you haven't been able to have them fired, I guess they aren't as much drones as you seem to think, are they?

~~~

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (2)

Rupert (28001) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026830)

Why would I want them fired? I'm not the admin.

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026813)

HA ha ha ha! You called the other workers at your company drones! You are so superior and clever! Ha ha ha ha!! I can't stop laughing at your monumental wit!! Whoa ho ho! HA ha ha!

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026888)

thus spake a pissed off drone

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (2)

Rupert (28001) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026893)

Slashdot really is going downhill. Now even the anonymous cowards have feelings.

Did I call you a drone? Did I insult you in any way?

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (1, Offtopic)

Graspee_Leemoor (302316) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026828)

I don't care how low your uid is, I still find your referring to employees as drones to be patronising and arrogant.

Presumably you are administering a WINDOWS network, so remember what they say about people who live in GLASS HOUSES.

graspee

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (3, Funny)

Rupert (28001) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026867)

I don't administer any kind of network (apart from the 4 Linux & 1 Win98 at home). However, you don't have to be a sysadmin to be patronising and arrogant. And my uid is not particularly low. It's about two orders of magnitude too high to get a proposal of marriage from CmdrTaco.

They are not drones because they are windows users. The reverse would be more accurate.

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (2, Insightful)

cat_jesus (525334) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026797)

On the other side, as a Security Manager in a bank who's sometimes asked to go find out if person XYZ has been accessing nakedhairyeyebrowedcheerleaders.com, I can see how this utility might make it impossible for me to do my job.
Here's a novel idea. How about monitoring employess productivity instead. I could care less if my employees look at porn as long as no one complains and the work gets done. As soon as one of those two criteria change, then I get involved.

Cat

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (1)

fishebulb (257214) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026847)

if an employee is looking at porn, it could get all tangled up in sexual harassment etc. In general i agree with you though. Its like the people that work 14 hour days, but could easily accomplish it all in 5 hours of PRODUCTIVE work

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (1)

cat_jesus (525334) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026875)

As long as policies are in place that forbid it, once someone complains about a cow-orker looking at porn, pull the logs, verify it and give a single warning. After that it's termination time. It's really very simple, and cheap.

Cat

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (2)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026872)

I could care less if my employees look at porn as long as no one complains

I guess you haven't been sued under the "creating a hostile work environment" sexual harrasment theory. Yet.

Personally I could care less what my employees do so long as they produce. However the governement makes me liable for certain on the job employee activities. Unfortunately that mean I have to keep a lid on things.

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (3, Insightful)

mosch (204) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026811)

As a security manager, you should learn how to lock down the computers that the users are using, thus preventing the installation and deployment of this utility.

Additionally, your security policy should have language forbidding the use of non-authorized software, thus making the use of said software a fireable offense.

Yup (0, Offtopic)

wiredog (43288) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026814)

I wish I'd seen this before I submitted the story on the Great Firewall to kuro5hin. Arrgh.

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (5, Funny)

shut_up_man (450725) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026824)

Dude, you're such a tease... nakedhairyeyebrowedcheerleaders.com doesn't even exist!

And here I was getting all excited...

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (3, Insightful)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026832)

  • On the good side: China [...] to keep spreadin' the news that "Information good."

Er, good side: USA. To find DeCSS or similar tools without fear of prosecution, for example, or to keep spreadin' the news that "Censorship bad, even when it's done by a (heh) democratically (heh heh) elected (heh heh heh) administration."

  • as a Security Manager in a bank who's sometimes asked to go find out if person XYZ has been accessing nakedhairyeyebrowedcheerleaders.com, I can see how this utility might make it impossible for me to do my job

Depends on what your job is. If your job is to protect the bank from liability, anonymised browsing allows you to state with certainty "Nobody can link us or our employees with porn surfing. Not us, not nobody."

If you've been tasked with catching a known baddie in the act (perhaps at preteenlolitas.com), then you've got keyloggers, machine caches (they don't have admin access, right?) or just drop VNC [att.com] on their machine and catch them with their pants down, so to speak.

I appreciate your concerns, but really, wouldn't it actually make your job easier if users showed a little courtesy and consideration, and stopped waving their dodgy surfing habits in your face (so to speak)?

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026842)

On the other side, as a Security Manager in a bank who's sometimes asked to go find out if person XYZ has been accessing nakedhairyeyebrowedcheerleaders.com, I can see how this utility might make it impossible for me to do my job.

Freaking antisocial narc!

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (4, Insightful)

smallpaul (65919) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026859)

So what you're saying is: "On the good side, fundamental human rights. On the bad side, makes life harder for pointy haired bosses who feel that lunch breaks spent playing cards are fine but lunch breaks surfing porn are an abomination.

And this gives you mixed feelings???

Re:Good for some, nightmare for others (2)

Salamander (33735) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026922)

as a Security Manager in a bank who's sometimes asked to go find out if person XYZ has been accessing nakedhairyeyebrowedcheerleaders.com, I can see how this utility might make it impossible for me to do my job

No problem. Whatever port is at the other end, the language spoken on the browser's connection will still be easily recognizable HTTP. You should already have an IDS running, and adding a signature for the "offending" HTTP traffic should be a no-brainer.

I got a new keychain (-1)

chemstar (457943) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026717)

In its quest for the buzz that makes or breaks video games, Microsoft set up hundreds of Xbox kiosks in Tokyo and Osaka earlier this month. And for the introduction on Friday, Mr. Gates himself will stump for the Xbox at an event similar to his appearance last November at the opening of the Toys "R" Us store in Times Square. Microsoft began taking advance orders on Feb. 2 for consoles, including 50,000 special edition systems with a translucent case and a silver-plated key chain engraved with the autograph of Mr. Gates -- an accessory that has been mocked on online message boards and game publications.

from the NYTimes

you can... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026719)

you can take away their freedom of speech...

but you cant take away their pr0n !!

Page Widening post!!! (-1, Offtopic)

ModMeUp (559789) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026723)

.I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK

Re:Page Widening post!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026790)

.What .sorts .of .anti-troll .filters .exist? .A .handful .of .filters .have .been .put .into .place .to .try .to .make .sure .that .people .don't .abuse .the .system .The .most .important .is .that .the .same .person .can't .post .more .than .once .every .120 .seconds .Also, .if .a .single .user .is .moderated .down .several .times .in .a .short .time .frame, .a .temporary .ban .will .be .imposed .on .that .user .a .cooling .off .period .if .you .will .It .lasts .for .72 .hours, .or .more .for .users .who .have .posted .a .ton .The .vast .majority .of .you .will .never .encounter .any .of .these .troll .filters .If .you .do .encounter .one .unfairly, .let .us .know .so .we .can .fix .it .This .stuff .is .fairly .beta .code, .so .there .are .bound .to .be .problems

(-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026816)

your page-widening doesn't work in Konqueror. haha!

Re: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026845)

in fact, it doesn't seem to work in Netscape under Linux, or Mozilla under Linux either. You, sir, are a moron.

Re: (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026921)

did the poster say anything about other browsers? No! You are a much greater moron and should be gassed ASAP!

Reached back like a pimp.... (-1)

herbert_axelrod (554087) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026724)

and slapped the ho'"

Eazy-Muthafuckin-e

everyone sing along! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026731)



. . .in the key of E

Hemos is, a fat mf, a fat mf, a fat MF!

Hemos baby, a fat mf, a fat mf today. . .


One more time!

You know, Hemos... (-1, Troll)

SumDeusExMachina (318037) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026733)

Isn't this going to cause all of you great anguish in attempting to IPban us for expressing unpopular opinions on Slashdot?

Re:You know, Hemos... (-1)

The Turd Report (527733) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026855)

Or, you could just go here [rosinstrument.com]

cDc using phpNuke (2, Funny)

RussGarrett (90459) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026740)

Anyone else see the irony of one of the world's largest "hacker" groups using phpNuke - a piece of software fraught with cross-site scripting and other vulnerabilities - for it's web site?

Re:cDc using phpNuke (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026783)

"Anyone else see the irony of one of the world's largest "hacker" groups using phpNuke - a piece of software fraught with cross-site scripting and other vulnerabilities - for it's web site?"

Yup but perhaps they just don't care. Maybe they would rather be coding (a linux version) than playing with a weblog.

Bottom line, if someone wants to get you they likely will.

Freedom (2)

Henry V .009 (518000) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026743)

Hopefully this can bring uncensored internet to places like China, that don't have access except through government controlled (and censored) ISPs.

Hey, let's start an open source version. Slashdoters might actually do something positive for free speech and all that for a change. Reply to this message if you're interested, and we'll get something set up.

oh great (0)

Alien54 (180860) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026745)

Just what we need.

Access to the White House pr0n collection [georgewgirls.com] . This isn't Bill Clinton after all.

I mean, check out the expressions on the faces.

Risky? (0, Flamebait)

BlueMonk (101716) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026752)

Doesn't this increase the risk that certain countries will just "shut off" access to the internet altogether, since they can't find a clean way to control it?

Re:Risky? (2)

Alien54 (180860) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026784)

Doesn't this increase the risk that certain countries will just "shut off" access to the internet altogether, since they can't find a clean way to control it?

Well, they tried this in Afghanistan, among other things.

Look where it got them

Re:Risky? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026881)

Can we ask Junis for his opinion on the matter?

It seems to me... (4, Funny)

IIOIOOIOO (517375) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026755)

That it's going to be pretty hard to gain mass-legitimacy with a name like that?

Freedom Fighter: Acolyte, what tool do you suggest we use to access the world of internet while circumventing our government's oppresive restrictions?

Acolyte: Peek-A-Booty

Freedom Fighter:Please go away.

Re:It seems to me... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026815)

You are right but it does have the ability to be disarming. I mean PGP is obviously a three letters that means busines. If I were a nation's government guy I'd see PGP as dangerous. On the otherhand Peek-A-Booty just sounds like something to run to get porn.

So as the hypothetical shows in case one we have a guy who might go after others and in the other we have a guy who might facilitate others.

Being a woman I have no idea if it'll really work that way, but I have observed that most guys like their porn.

Slashdot Code is Totally Fucked (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026757)



Is anyone else seeing this shit?

404's for days, and now the fucking page scrolls right like 20 feet. Whatever Hemos sat on, it sure fucked things up, 'cause the Slashdot is feeling some pain, buddy.

Re:Slashdot Code is Totally Fucked (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026806)

yah, i'd have to say i'm seeing this shit too. And i thought it was just the lab computers...

Amen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026819)

Whatever Hemos sat on,

It was probably this. [medicaltoys.com]

And you hear Jamie McCarthy let out an "Oh Shit!" (-1)

Pr0n K1ng (160688) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026758)

As all his account blocking falls by the wayside.

public proxy (2)

Evanrude (21624) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026763)

Although public proxies have been around forever, this takes them to a whole new level. If a business uses any kind of filtering software, those can be modified to block the public proxies.
With a p2p type of services, anyone, anywhere can be a proxy. You'd have to be crazy to try and start blocking every IP or address block on the Internet because they offer public proxy services.
My thoughts on the whole thing are: Why censor the Internet in the first place? Programs like this would be unnecessary.

Re:public proxy (3, Insightful)

crawling_chaos (23007) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026890)

You'd have to be crazy to try and start blocking every IP or address block on the Internet because they offer public proxy services.

My guess is that that's exactly what will happen in restrictive environments if this becomes widespread. A corporate/state "whitelist" will be used to list acceptable sites and all others will be forbidden. If something is found that might be useful, the powers that be can be petitioned to add it to the whitelist. This will of course castrate the power of the net in those restrictive environments, but that's precisely the point, particularly in China.

Busted booty (1)

maunleon (172815) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026764)

Wow.. i found the reply button. Who'd have thought I had to scroll to the next state...

Anyway.. I suspect a lot of people would get busted.. "You mean you can actually SEE what I'm browsing??? Keyword logging, what's that???"

I don't see the point. Unless you are doing it in an university or library environment, most businesses do have monitoring enabled based on keywords.

re: peek-a-boo (2, Informative)

chill_17 (552639) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026765)

hmmm, makes me think of:
Triangle Boy [rfa.org] end the Freenet project [freenetproject.org]

anybody knows which program is actually the most practical?

Hope this prospers more than Crowds did (3, Informative)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026766)

See also the earlier Crowds [att.com] project courtesy of att.com (and while you're at it, if you use a network of systems [X, Windows, Mac, or anything with a Java browser] check out the amazing VNC [att.com] project).

Problem is, Crowds fell foul of the [brzzt, crackle] VERY SENSIBLE AND FOR YOUR OWN GOOD [bzz, pop] US laws on exporting encryption, and required you to sign a Declaration of Patriotic Fervour [att.com] to get your hands on it, which rather limited its usefulness in restrictive regimes that monitor and censor their citizens (other than the US, I mean).

Hopefully cDc will be able to get this thing prospering in the wild before they get charged with Conspiracy to Share Knowledge, or whatever. Good luck, guys, and remember, get that source out there early, and get it out there often.

Re:Hope this prospers more than Crowds did (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026863)

Congratulations, you have won the most cliched Slashdot response award for today, Monday, February 18! Your clever use of Orwellian imagery to describe the present-day United States knows no limit to its boring Slashbottery! Commendations, sir, your check is in the mail!

scriptkiddies? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026769)

so we all know this is going to be used by scriptkiddies to nuke our machines right? seams very stupid to have some sort of distributed proxy network nor would I like to run some sort of open proxy since I don't want to help ppl with things like carding etc...

Re:scriptkiddies? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026831)

The world must be a scary place for you.

Slashdot is as Wide as Hemos (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026773)

Slashdot is fucked:

The page widening post (see above) HAS FUCKED SLASHDOT.

Oh well. There are people who attend real Univerities, then there are those who attend a step above Community College, then drop out, then believe their code is dope.

Nope.

Excellent! (4, Funny)

1stflight (48795) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026774)

For countries living under such horrible restrictions as government monitoring, and censorship with the threat of armed arrest this product will really help restore some sense of freedom...especially here in the United States ....

Re:Excellent! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026908)

Right, since the US blocks all those antipatriotic sites?

hmm CDC (0, Flamebait)

negativethirsty (555244) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026777)

So the CDC makes "back orifice [iss.net] " and other trojans, then makes "peek-a-booty" that relies on USERS running nodes for the semi-service.
That leads to two questions for me.
One they first piss off many many (ya maybe they are n00bs but still) users that they now want to install/run their app? Great logic there guys.
And lastly, man whats with them and this ass fetish?

Re:hmm CDC (2, Insightful)

MrP- (45616) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026848)

Actually, this probably works like BO. When BO2K was released, they said it was a tool for network admins, not a cracker tool like the previous, yet the install was still trojan like, installed secretly, ran on startup etc. So while they say P-a-B is for everyone to install, the server will probably just be installed on unsuspecting users, and then the crackers/whatever will use the cracked systems to access restricted sites, and those cracked system users will be the ones who get in trouble with the FBI for accessing forbidden documents and whatnot.

Or maybe cDc has changed and this great application will save the world!

On the ash fetish. Rumour has it... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026868)

One of the founders was anally violated by a cow. It happened in a cow tipping bet gone horribly wrong. Needless to say the event shocked the group, branding them for life. Although rumour also has it that the burgers and steak they had later that night more then made up for it.

Maybe it's just a freudian slip with latent sexual meaning that happens to this day.

I wonder if this will get one of the cDc to comment...hmmm

Re:hmm CDC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026900)

men who have sex with other men

Yeah but ... (1)

NWT (540003) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026786)

- no one knows where the connection originated except the originator -

Maybe i'm wrong but, couldn't that be abused by hackers/crackers, or people with other "dark" ideas?

But I'm sure this system will have great success, for the simple reason that people like to be anonymous ;)

Isn't it ironic... (5, Interesting)

devaldez (310051) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026792)

...that the peek-a-booty website requires registration?! I thought the whole thing was directed toward anonymity.

The day an anonymous website gets registration info from me is the day I cross completely into PHB syndrome.

So, who is using my computer? (4, Interesting)

kryzx (178628) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026799)

Ok, the premis sounds good, peer to peer to route around restrictions. But if I'm in the peer network, does that mean others are accessing sites they can't get to through my computer? So will goatse.cx be showing up in the company logs next to my computer's ip address? If I'm proxy serving for someone who can't get to it, it seems likely.

Re:So, who is using my computer? (-1)

dadaist (544022) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026852)

Whoah, that is a really huge point. Anyone have the answer?

Re:So, who is using my computer? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026892)

Yes you will be accountable and responsible. One way might be to run it on your own computers and your own internet connection.

Not a catch-all solution (1)

action789 (148777) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026861)

Not to say this won't work, because I believe 2/3 of the time, it will, but.... (there's always the 'but')

Most of the time, when an organization has done their homework and wants to do content-filtering on HTTP, they'll normally leave it to a 3rd party application, such as Websense. Websense is effectively a proxy, and clients will normally connect to the proxy over tcp/8080, not tcp/80 which HTTP flies over.

To enforce the content-filtering (and protect their investment in the web-filtering application), most organizations will -only- allow HTTP (tcp/80) or HTPS (tcp/443, which this app seems to run over) from the web-filtering device out to the Internet, and block all the other internal clients, leaving them to proxy through the filtering box, or be without webpages.

I think this has potential, but I don't see how this solution would fix this specific (and rather prolific) problem.

This application will be very effective in bypassing source-filtering (deciding who is allowed in to see -this- webpage) but its going to do crap to bypass destination-filtering (you can see -this- set of webpages)

Re:Not a catch-all solution (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026918)

Unless someone is using rules that you can only connect to an approved list of sites and IP's, this tool will allow you to view what you want.

So you set your Peek-A-Booty app to point to the internal proxy and the proxy will think it's normal web traffic. Then you point your browser to Peek-A-Booty.

There are risks associated with this... (2, Interesting)

Graabein (96715) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026870)

Those who need this most are perhaps people fighting against human rights abuses and living under oppressive regimes. The problem is that the simple act of installing Peek-a-Booty could potentially put these people at risk.

Furthermore, since the software acts as a proxy service, this means that anyone, anywhere could potentially be hosting controversial material at any given time.

The cDc acknowledges this, in an interview with The Register [theregister.co.uk] :

"The app can be obscured, but not hidden as you correctly point out. We are going to give advance briefings to grassroots organizations who will act as one distribution chain; risk assessment will be part of that. Obviously, if someone is already on 'state radar', they would not be a suitable candidate," cDc member Oxblood Ruffin told us.

The above is from an article dated July 2001, so it might not be entirely up to date. Still, think twice and do your own research before installing if you for some reason are afraid of having the authorities come knocking on your door.

Anal Fixation? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026876)

With software like Peek-A-Booty and Back Orifice...
it makes you wonder....

articles on The Register (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026877)

The articles on The Register [theregister.co.uk] linked from Tom's Hardware [tomshardware.com] are worth the read too...

Upgrade your firewall (1)

Birdie-PL (255639) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026882)

Well, the software is still very easy to block.
I assume that they use HTTP as the transport. So it's enough to use firewall that understands HTTP, i.e. any that is advertised as 'application layer' firewall.
And if you don't block per IP you probably already use such an firewall. The only difference is that you will scan for forbidden URL (or a part of thereof) in the POST fields or GET agruments and not in the URL prefix.
Writing a piece of software that monitors all your HTTP connections and blocks any that match the string 'goatse' is very easy (less than 4 hours if you don't care about scalability and configurability).

This still won't work! (5, Insightful)

SMN (33356) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026889)

Peacefire has been following Peek-A-Booty for a while, and we keep coming to the conclusion that a peer-to-peer anti-censorship system is impossible. There's a very basic problem that Peek-A-Booty still hasn't solved.

The problem: Say I'm a user who wants to connect to a Peek-A-Booty network. I need to get the address of a node to connect to. How do I get this? The obvious solution, and the one used for Gnutella and other peer-to-peer apps, is to publish a list of nodes (or at least one). But that won't work here -- because then the censors can use the same list to track down the nodes and block and/or disable them. This is especially problematic if you're using Peek-A-Booty as it claims it is meant to be: if you're in a country that filters access (say, China) and the government can track down the users trying to circumvent the filters, they can and will punish/torture/kill those people.

Peek-A-Booty has not solved this problem. Read what Tom's article has to say about it:

"For security, there's no attempt at initial discovery - you'll get sent details of a node by word of mouth, or from some other secure source. Baronowski and de Villa expect that citizens groups (NGOs) will become trusted servers."
That's right -- the only way to connect to a Peek-A-Booty network is word-of-mouth, which is horribly ineffective. Finding a node will be extremely difficult unless you know the right people, and then it's very easy for the censor to ruin it. Trust the wrong person, and your whole network is exposed. Government spies could give out addresses that the claim are Peek-A-Booty networks, then catch anyone who tries to connect to those. Worst of all, they could just offer some huge incentive to people for turning in their friends.

I hate to say it, but this system simply isn't ready yet. They have not come up with a technically sound solution.

A Story about Peeka-Booty (-1)

herbert_axelrod (554087) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026894)

Larry Y*p is a person that I came across quite by accident. I normally wouldn't associate with someone like him, but there was some financial motivation that helped me endure his sociopathic bent. Y*p, as you may have guessed from his name, is born of Chinese ancestry. Larry's mom and Dad came to the U.S. from Peking in the late 50's and sullied our American soil with him soon after. I am sure the Y*ps meant well when they raised Larry, but they were unaware that things considered normal in China... are sometimes a crime in the U.S. of A. Larry's wife, Linda is a Mexican-African-American woman with 3 children, all from different fathers (none of them Larry's): a criminal, a lesbian, and one that turned out ok. The only way this child could have ended up ok was from parental neglect. Linda is hideously ugly; she has a heart shaped ass. This is normally a good thing... but hers is upside down. She has many tiny moles on her nose and cheeks. They look like freckles, but they have height. She looks like Howdy Doody would after closely examining an ass that blew a damp fart. She is a kleptomaniac and a pathological liar. I call her Yap. Larry calls her "live in" Larry is a 280 lb, out-of-shape curmudgeon. He specializes in one-upmanship and backstabbing. Larry could be talking to you as if you were his only friend (which would probably be true) and if somebody else walked into the room, he would immediately say something demeaning about you like, "Where did you get your shoes... Payless?". Any retort would initiate an onslaught of "Yo Mamma" jokes. Larry would purposely run into the room to display his latest fart... grunting extra hard to make sure you were impressed. This is probably why his drawers were constantly smeared with intestinal rice. Larry is a sex and car part addict... it is not an exaggeration to state that he screws a prostitute everyday. He finances his hobbies by exacting kickbacks out of the salivating vendors that supply his company with parts. Larry is the purchasing agent from hell. He particularly liked picking on Vietnamese machinists for some reason. Vendors could be treated to General Chau's chicken one day, and be jacked up against a milling machine the next... Larry viewed himself as the Chinese godfather. He had one hooker that he saw repeatedly. She was an above-the-knee amputee (no shit) and by the look of her apartment was successful. I have to admit she was pretty. On the way to a meeting, Larry just had to get a nut, so we stopped off at her apartment... I watched TV with her 4-year-old daughter while Y*p boned her. Once, Larry jokingly mentioned the large size of his rottweilers penis, he grabbed the relaxing dogs cock and yanked it a couple of times. The dogs' eyes opened as wide as a strangled Chihuahuas'. I'm sure Larry thought I would laugh... but I didn't, this was not funny, especially when the dog rolled onto his back expecting more (this had been done before). I generally avoided going out with Larry and Linda together. It was a source of embarrassment for me to be seen with these two freaks. I didn't want people to think I was out walking two incredibly fucked up pets. Linda's laugh reminded me of an asthmatic pig snorting a 1Ú2 lb of cocaine. Larry's was like listening to a rhesus monkey kick heroin. Both should have been drowned at birth. One Memorial Day weekend, they asked if I wanted to go to the San Jose car show with them. The show featured motorcycles (my fav.) and was something I thought might be fun, even with Y*p and Yap. The hellish venture started immediately with the car ride to the fairgrounds. 102 degrees and 75 mph ensured Larry an escape proof, rolling chamber of horrors. His jonesing monkey laugh combined with the sound of the master door and window controls locking alerted me that something horrifying was about to take place. The treatment began with a few inaudible, rancid pooftees. I couldn't begin to describe the stench. Larry's colon, fueled by Linda's ghetto-bean, multi-ethnic rice cooking, served up an aroma that a perverted maggot would flee from. Linda seemed unaffected, as if these nasty wafts of funk could have been hers. She sat there wheezing with this gummy, tartar-toothed smile, blurting out an occasional "Larrrrry". I became convinced that she was as twisted as Y*p; no one could find anything humorous about this situation unless they were as sick as him. Larry was in all his glory...like he learned a new song and you just had to hear it. He began to blast out this succession of farts that sounded like he was sitting in a half inch of water. He would occasionally let the windows down, I imagine because the stench was too much, even for him. I must have looked like a car accident victim going down in a pond, my nose pressed up against the window, clawing frantically for air. My jaundiced friend was on a roll, there was nothing short of an ass whoopin' that could have stopped him. I had already decided to take a bus on the return trip... so all I had to do was make it there and everything would be OK. Larry continued his attack on my sensitive nostrils, all the time laughing maniacally and playing with the electric windows. Arriving at the fairgrounds, I was as happy as the settlers must have been seeing the Pacific. I was out of matches and at the end of my rope when we pulled into the parking lot. Y*ps golf clubs were sitting next to me and I seriously considered taking a divot out of his empty, balding skull. My anger turned to quiet satisfaction however, when I noticed a CD-sized yellow patch on Larry's khakis (Larry didn't wear underwear). His wet monkey farts had cost him a pair of shorts. There was no way in hell I was going to alert this torturous bastard to his plight. I was more than happy to see this through to the end. I walked a short distance behind them, trying not to let on that Larry may need a diaper. He kept slowing up to attempt some male bonding, but I would bob, weave, speed up, slow down... anything to keep our distance. I'm sure Larry was thinking something like, ÔHe's avoiding me like I shit my pants'. The looks and snickers Y*p and Yap were receiving convinced me I was doing the right thing. I prayed for a swarm of poo-sniffing insects to start buzzing him, but I wasn't that lucky. This was an extremely visible patch Larry displayed on his khakis and I could barely contain myself. The payback for the car ride was big on this one and I was going to make sure diaper-boy paid in full. It was obvious that I was with Y*p and Yap, so I had to weigh my embarrassment tolerance with theirs. I decided to get them a little further from the car before enlightening them. Following the septic duo was too much; I almost had to twist my knob to keep from peeing my pants. There was Larry, walking around like an urban commando; beeper, cell phone and PDA strapped to his belt. His expensive waistline served no real purpose other than to call attention to the yellow peril that had seeped from his ass. I sensed Linda was starting to feel like she had a barking duck perched on her shoulder. She was looking around nervously and since she was sort of a victim herself, I let her in on the joke. Being the dutiful wife she was, she decided to keep Larry's little accident a secret too and started to distance herself from his leaking sphincter. Y*p realizing something was wrong, looked around and glanced at the bottom of his sandals... he looked like one of those poor fuckers on Candid Camera that knew something was wrong, but wasn't sure. My face was bright red from holding back laughter. Y*p kept asking, "What's going on? Come on you guys..." We just kept ignoring him until Linda couldn't take anymore, she finally told him that he had a giant shit stain on his ass and should get back to the car and change into his long pants. I would have rather drank tea made from Larry's shorts (Poolong?) than be seen with Linda alone, so I decided to walk back to the car with him. He was going to depend on me to shield his little yellow lunch-box from the public. I was going to do no such thing. I pointed and laughed at every turn. Larry walked like he was in handcuffs as he tried to cover the ugly mess from the crowd. He was starting to get angry with me, I reminded him of the car ride and that he was being paid back. Larry is the kind of person that loves to dish it out, but when he's the butt of a joke, he turns into a rabid animal that would kill you if he could. I sat in the passenger seat as Larry dropped his shorts. He handed me his beeper and stuff, using the car door to shield his now half naked yellow ass. Larry asked me to quick hand him his pants, I slammed the door shut, leaving him knock kneed and cursing. I locked and unlocked the door, shooting him a "Remember this... hmmm?" look... Larry was beside himself... I was in heaven.

It'd be nice... (1)

compwiz3688 (98919) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026898)

unless it's done the same way as the *tella style p2p.

It's just so annoying that when I wanted something from the *tella network, the server isn't even on. Or I kept seeing people probing my computer for a *tella server.

Then again if it's done similar to the central location way, it can be easily blocked too. Hrm. Guess there'll be more traffic hammering my firewall. *sigh*

sigh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026901)

And naturally our wonderful corporate wwwproxy kicks in and leaves me unable to see the peekabooty site...
Well, I guess it is good for me since it could rupture my fragile little mind..

Use ssh and squid (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026905)

For a while I've been browsing the web from work without my employer knowing which sites I go to. I've been doing this using Teraterm secure shell to redirect a port from my work machine to a linux machine at home. At home I have linux running squid, a proxy server. I change my work browser's proxy settings to localhost and the redirected port number. Anyone sniffing my traffic at work will just see encrypted packets flying by with no idea what they mean.

If I where the China Security Manager ... (1)

changos (105425) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026910)

I would block the download site right now. Are sites like /. also censored? I'm not taking the pessimistic view, but I bet they are some really anal geeks working for the chinesse government. Probably looking for projects like PB and then banning them.

Could this be my saviour? (1)

Aash (130966) | more than 12 years ago | (#3026913)

My university has an agonizingly frustrating download limit of 500 megs per week. Could this program possibly circumvent my limit? I'd try it now, but I'm at home (reading week).

Actually, those bastards also block out morpheus. Could this program get around that, too?

Defecation Imagery in American Science Fiction: Th (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026919)

Defecation Imagery in American Science Fiction: The Dark Conspiracy

Among the various literary genres, perhaps none proves such a fertile dumping ground for fecal imagery as science fiction.
From Asimov to Zelazny, nearly every work of science fiction squeezes in its own often subtle (and, often, not-so-subtle) breed of excretory metaphors.

An example of toilet imagery plain to even the dullest mind is present throughout Larry Niven's award-winning novel Ringworld. On the most fundamental level, even the setting of the story stinks of the water closet. Specifically, the Ringworld itself is a hundred million mile diameter "ring" of material, on which various species live out their regimented lives.

Surely, the Ringworld is the most transparent kind of metaphor -- clearly representing a galactic-sized toilet seat (or, "ass-toroid", as any ass-trophysicist might conjecture). The various species living out their miniature lives are intended to represent the various intestinal flora that live and breed on your own toilet seats. The metaphor could not be clearer.

As an exercise, I leave it up to the gentle reader to log other fecal imagery throughout the plot, setting, and characters in this important work. Any reasonable person will admit that Niven's usage of such imagery was intentional, and adds particular punch to the force of his story.

In fact, one of the two sequels to this famous novel is entitled The Ringworld Throne -- providing incontrovertible validation of this observation. Mr. Niven maintains the parallel of the Ringworld to the toilet throughout, going so far as to name the book after a euphemism for a commode.

Examples of subtler variations on this theme may be found in Isaac Asimov's work, for Asimov always appreciated decorum and cleverness -- he'd never leave a steamy pile in plain view.

For instance, in his celebrated and Hugo award-winning novel Foundation's Edge (note: edge), one of the two strong female characters is named Harla Branno. Harla Branno is a cunning, portentous, quasi-masculine firebrand who is able to smoothly manipulate her underling (Golan Trevize) into undertaking a dangerous journey.

The suspense and tension are maintained until the very last moment, when all is released in a sudden and surprising way. And that completes the picture. From the title, to the character names (Branno = bran, Golan = Colon), to the sudden-release structure of the plot, all is feces. Bravo, Isaac!

Also lost on many of today's readers is the constipation imagery in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, by Robert Heinlein. Once the title itself is considered in the context of bathroom ritual, the previously elusive interpretation is brightly revealed. Possibly the "moon" is in one sense Earth's satellite -- but the literary analyst with sufficient acumen will surely appreciate the simultaneity in interpreting this as meaning "ass".

That the "moon" is a "harsh mistress" means, in the former sense, that man's invasion of the Moon as a home for humanity, complete with its unique social, political, and economic ramifications provides a rich and nearly insurmountable physical and mental challenge. In the latter sense, however, surely Heinlein intends to liken this sociological struggle to the physiological battle of defecation with bowels slightly obstructed. In fact, the parallels are irresistible, once brought into the light of day.

Some authors confine their fecal imagery to the title alone, as L. Sprague de Camp with the obvious Lest Darkness Fall, and Robin Hobb's much more subtle Assassin's Quest. Some manage to split it among a book and its sequel, as was done with Conflict and Resolution by Hamilton. Yet others have apparently toilet-free titles, and restrict their coprophilic allusions to character names, as with "Jonnie" in Battlefield Earth by L. Ron Hubbard. In any case, a sufficiently probing search will reveal the offending mass of bathroom-based alchemy subliminally inserted into our consciousness by American science fiction authors.

Surely a fecal conspiracy is afloat in the sea of science fiction, and try as we might, never can we flush all traces of such imagery away. We are left little choice but to wipe it out of our minds as we read, enjoying the yarn itself without succumbing to its darker tendency.

Gang mentality? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3026923)

Hmmm... gangs act in funny ways. They often think if they conduct illegal activites en masse they are somehow shielded from the law.
I certainly would not want to use an anonymous network where some sicko could be using your computer to conduct their crimes. Do you think the cops would really understand or care how those files got onto your computer? No. Off to jail you go.
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