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13 comments

Sign Up for the Tomcat-DEV and -USER Lists (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3084931)

The page on Apache's site listing all mailing lists is here [trollaxor.com] .

I just signed up for the Tomcat lists; it's an interesting technology and I am trying to get it up and running on FreeBSD [trollaxor.com] and also QNX RtP 6.2 [trollaxor.com] .

Re:Sign Up for the Tomcat-DEV and -USER Lists (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3086043)

Great, trolls with mod points or moderators that can't read where links go.

Not Informative, not even funny.

Leave it to open-source... (3, Funny)

leviramsey (248057) | more than 12 years ago | (#3085038)

... to finally make washing a cat easier.

What? You didn't mean that kind of soap, or that kind of cat?

I guess I'll go now...

That's neat -- but I'll stick with SOAP::Lite (5, Insightful)

rjamestaylor (117847) | more than 12 years ago | (#3088936)

I am amazed at how powerful perl w/ CPAN is and have yet to find the "killer app" requiring me to leave perl and get into Java servers or .NET stuff. I deploy a SOAP server with SOAP::Lite that is used for real-time prescription dispensing. The other end is Java on Windows. Yes, I ran into the "base64" encoding assumption but once pointed in the right direction we were golden.

A friend who is an expert with Blue Martini (a very expensive Java-based application server) said that perl with CPAN was more impressive.

But, as long as Microsoft and Sun have the advertising avenues to reach the PHBs, Perl will be the despised step-child of Web application development. But despised stepchildren tend to have, er, Cinderella stories.

Re:That's neat -- but I'll stick with SOAP::Lite (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3097148)

eehhh blue martini eh???

there's no way you can compare a perl module with a platform thatt does

"Blue Martini Marketing combines campaign management, advanced analytics, and personalization to execute high ROI marketing. "

whatever that maybe...

there is some nice perl soap libs and some nice java libs too...

i would go for ruby though...

Re:That's neat -- but I'll stick with SOAP::Lite (1)

rjamestaylor (117847) | more than 12 years ago | (#3097739)

Who's comparing "a perl module" to bloviated software? Not me. But a very expensive, successful Blue Martini consultant compared the Perl/CPAN community offerings to, what he called, a half-completed hodge-podge that costs USD$1 Million just to take a peak at and recommended sticking with Perl/CPAN.

Re:That's neat -- but I'll stick with SOAP::Lite (1)

bornholtz (94540) | more than 12 years ago | (#3104081)

Yes, I ran into the "base64" encoding assumption but once pointed in the right direction we were golden


What is this "base64" encoding assumption you speak of? What is the assumption and how is it incorrect?
I'm in the middle of a SOAP project that is currently all Java. We do base64 encode all of our content so I hope I'm not causing problems if someone wants to go crazy and write some VB for the other end. Thanks.

Re:That's neat -- but I'll stick with SOAP::Lite (1)

rjamestaylor (117847) | more than 12 years ago | (#3104152)

See: this message [yahoo.com] . Subscribing to this list is recommended.

Re:That's neat -- but I'll stick with SOAP::Lite (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3133520)

Let me see, have you ever heard of object oriented programming, encapsulation, strongly typed languages, "get errors at compile time, not at run time", etc.

Perl is not a serious language for large scale software development, its a scripting language. Perhaps when you want to write a sizeable piece of software you may be required to leave Perl and develop with a proper language.

[ For the record, I don't consider Java a 'real' language either, due to the overhandicapping of removing features for the benefit of idiots; no templates, no MI, no operator overloading, runs in a VM, no access to memory, etc. but its a massive progressions from Perl.]

Re:That's neat -- but I'll stick with SOAP::Lite (1)

rjamestaylor (117847) | more than 12 years ago | (#3133585)

LOL. That was pretty funny. Thanks for the laugh.

Re:That's neat -- but I'll stick with SOAP::Lite (1)

FatSean (18753) | more than 12 years ago | (#3148506)

If you've got the cash for hardware, Java application servers are a dream for scaling.

Re:That's neat -- but I'll stick with SOAP::Lite (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3155715)

and with an attitude like that you never will. proves nothing.

Re:That's neat -- but I'll stick with SOAP::Lite (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3156325)

Oh yEAH??

;)
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