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Announcing Slashdot Subscriptions

CmdrTaco posted more than 12 years ago | from the dropping-a-few-bucks-in-the-guitar-case dept.

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For some time now we have been developing a unique subscription system that we hope will make our users and advertisers happy. Please hit the link below to read an explanation about how the system works, and why it works that way. Also you will learn what a subscription will give you, and what our future plans are for it.Update: 03/01 16:38 GMT by Hemos : A lot of people are asking about the only Paypal option. In answer to everyone: Yes, we are aware of the problems with PayPal.. And, yes, we're currently working on other solutions - read the full copy below, as Rob already states that.

To understand why the system works like it does, you need to first understand that Slashdot is about to start accepting new ad formats. The large ads that you see on many other sites are coming here. We really don't have an option: these are what advertisers want, and if we don't provide them, we won't be around much longer. But we want to give you an option to see Slashdot without these ads. Second, you need to understand that Slashdot readers fall into a variety of types, and charging the same flat fee just isn't possible.

Slashdot subscriptions will essentially let you buy a thousand pages to be viewed without banner ads. And you will have some flexibility to decide what types of pages (Comments, Articles, The Homepage) you want ads removed from, and what types of pages you just want to see the ads.

The rates are currently set at $5 per 1000 pages. To put this into perspective, $20 (typical magazine subscription) will be enough pages for 82% of our readers to view Slashdot without ads for a year. Another 15% will need to spend $5 a month to accomplish the same thing. 3% of our readers would need to spend more than $5 a month- but they could choose to see ads on comments and in almost every case, still pay around $5 a month. (As an aside, it's also worth noting that more than half of all comment posters fall into this 3%)

We realize that this system is more complex, but Slashdot has a third of a million readers per day with different reading habits, and this is the best way to accomodate everyone fairly.

Currently we only accept payment via paypal. It was simply easy and fast. We intend to offer other options as time permits and readers request.

Eventually we intend to offer additional features to subscribers. Exactly what those plums are remains to be decided: Access to the rejected submissions bin? A 'Gold Star' in your comments header? Karma? (I think that would be hilarious) We really don't know. We'll decide and implement what makes sense as we have time to do it.

We are doing our best to learn from the mistakes made by other sites that have started charging for subscriptions. We won't create subscriber only features that cost more to maintain than they generate. But we do need support from you if we are to continue. So anyway, here's that link again if you forgot it ;)

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2332 comments

Slashdot is Gay and so Are all of YOU! (-1)

LunchLady (555057) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090558)

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This is odd (-1, Offtopic)

EricKrout.com (559698) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090564)

First non-subscriber post!

Let the non-subscriber bashing commence!

I've already my "subscription" system (4, Funny)

anpe (217106) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090567)

It's called junkbuster

First Subscription! (2, Funny)

keep_it_simple_stupi (562690) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090570)

First subscription!!! DOH!

bummer (-1, Offtopic)

roodman (549307) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090571)

Looks like it's time to give up on /. Quality has been dropping latley anyway...

fuck (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090572)

you fags

Troll Library (-1)

RoboTroll (560160) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090574)

The fact that NONE of my many beowulf cluster posts are in your "troll library" PROVES, beyond all doubt, that I am NOT a troll, even though the slashditz mhod ghods constistently rate me as one, and I even got IP banned because of it.

Therefore, since it has been demonstrated that I am not a troll, I will politely suggest that you all imagine a beowulf cluster of these "troll libraries", and I will ask once again, if I will be able to use your fine troll library softwares to run on my Linus beowulf cluster.

Thanks you all for your times I will now retire back to playing my favorite game of the Linus OS, DOOM. It is a game in which you the player run through a maze, shooting scary monsters and evil humans. When you shoot the human they say "Hey! Hey!"

PS DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!

From the annals of the Troll Library [slashdot.org] .

Get on the phone (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090576)

And call Pud. She's going down!!! Fuckedcompany here I come!

Post alternative sites below (3, Funny)

cvd6262 (180823) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090580)

Hey, let's get a list of places we can move going.

byebye /. (-1, Flamebait)

Cheetahfeathers (93473) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090583)

It was nice knowing you.

Last Post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090584)

Last post for me...bye

Death of Slashdot, story at 11:00 (0, Redundant)

hobit (253905) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090586)

To understand why the system works like it does, you need to first understand that Slashdot
is about to start accepting new ad formats. The large ads that you see on many other sites
are coming here.


Put me down as the first to predict the death of slashdot.

FIRST PSOT (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090588)

See what you will be missing?

Hooray! (0)

October_30th (531777) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090594)

Hooray!

I got Windows XP Pro installed on my laptop and the Slashdot subscriptions are a fact.

What a wonderful day!

Re:Hooray! (-1)

l33t j03 (222209) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090649)

You'll love XP Pro, I know I do. You'll also love a Slashdot free world, I know I will.

I think I'll fire up a cigar. Maybe pour myself a glass of Booker's.

Perhaps we need to subsidize the Internet... (1)

dudeX (78272) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090595)

If I have to start paying money for every quality website I want to visit, then I might as well just hang out on IRC or other weblogs to find out interesting info and news.

I am already paying for three web sites. I say the people of the US should have their taxes fund the Internet backbones and ISP so that we can maintain somewhat free web access for everyone.

Re:Perhaps we need to subsidize the Internet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090721)

So we should pay for your traffic through our networks? Uhm, no. You can pay for your own traffic.

Re:Perhaps we need to subsidize the Internet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090724)

Cripes, man... go buy/build your own frigging Internet. The U.S. taxpayer *already* funded the start of the Internet. it doesn't exist to pay for your sorry self.

Oh no. (3, Funny)

MartinG (52587) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090597)

Slashdot to offer a subscription service.
Imminent Death of the Net Predicted. Film at 11.

Here's an idea (3, Insightful)

SuiteSisterMary (123932) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090598)

Just sell low UIDs. That'll raise you lots of money. Seriously, though, go nuts. Just don't be surprised when every signature links to instructions on using webwasher/adbuster/and so on to block out each and every comment. Or when somebody writes a perl script to grab slashdot every hour, parse out all the ads, and post it somewhere else, like freeslashdot.org or something.

Re:Here's an idea (2)

a.out (31606) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090692)

Suppose someone writes some nice perl script. Are the millions going to use it? No.

Some yes. Millions no.

Is this going to change my reading habits? Probably Not.

This a good way for the /. crew to keep their heads above water just incase LNUX decides to give them the boot.

Re:Here's an idea (2)

mwalker (66677) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090729)

Suppose someone writes some nice perl script. Are the millions going to use it? No.

Read the FAQ. Using a script against Slashdot in a combative manner is considered abuse and is punishable by a permanent IP or subnet ban against reading anything.

If people start using scripts to remove ads, they better be really careful about it.

Re:Here's an idea (1)

bofkentucky (555107) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090713)

yeah, but what if they've been $rtbl'ed, those accounts are worthless, unless they are selling "refurbished accounts" with a 30 day warranty.

How sad... (2)

42forty-two42 (532340) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090599)

Now I'll have to run slashdot through a perl proxy to filter these...

Re:How sad... (1)

42forty-two42 (532340) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090655)

Oh, and don't worry. It'll me open-source. I'll put it in my journal, just to add insult to injury ;)

Re:How sad... (2)

dthable (163749) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090720)

Or borrowing the Perl TMTOWTDI, you could also use any number of Ad Filters out on the market. I personally like the Freedom Privacy client [freedom.net] [freedom.net].

Subsciption or financing a wedding... (4, Funny)

BMonger (68213) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090603)

Whatever... all the money is going straight to the wedding pot. Don't let Taco fool you. He just wants to have a good wedding...

Re:Subsciption or financing a wedding... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090711)

his wedding is going to suck when I jump the pulpit and rape his girlfriend

First Post (0, Troll)

The Variable Man (116365) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090604)

Will you be charging extra for first posts?

Thanks, but no thanks... (2, Insightful)

horsie (91009) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090606)

I'll stick to the ads... as long as there are no pop-ups, pop-unders and anything that pops... and especially NO X-10 ADS!!! :)

Re:Thanks, but no thanks... (2, Insightful)

horsie (91009) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090652)

Then again, you can always threaten us with X-10 ads...

Re:Thanks, but no thanks... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090718)

I hate them too. I have (had) been an X-10 fan going back to pre-net days. Now I would have to overcome my aversion to the ads to buy any more product.

Up yours, I won't pay! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090607)

I'd rather pour a bowl of hot grits down my pants than give you a red cent!

Alan Thicke. DEAD. (-1)

Alan_Thicke (553655) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090610)

I just heard the sad news on CBC radio. Comedy actor/writer Alan Thicke was found dead in his home this morning. Even if you never liked his work, you can appreciate what he did for 80's television. Truly a Canadian icon. [slashdot.org]
He will be missed :(



Show me That Smile (The Growing Pains Theme Song):

Show me that smile again.
Ooh show me that smile.
Don't waste another minute on your crying.
We're nowhere near the end.
We're nowhere near.
The best is ready to begin.

As long as we got each other
We got the world
Sitting right in our hands.
Baby rain or shine;
All the time.
We got each other
Sharing the laughter and love.

Micropayment (1, Insightful)

DeathB (10047) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090611)

People have been saying forever that someone was going to do a site with some form of a micropayment system. It's interesting to see /. taking the lead here. I really have to wonder though, how many people are bothered by the ads on /. ? Quite a few of the people here read through a junkbuster proxy of one form or another, so such things never even appear. Hopefully there isn't an effort to push people in the way of paying (more annoying ads, etc). Because that would be truly unfortunate.

Best of luck to you, but I really don't expect to see that you will have much for sales.

ads and such (4, Insightful)

mrbill (4993) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090613)

Heck, I've gotten enough enjoyment and such from reading Slashdot over the past few years, thats its worth it to me. Just paid my $20.

a reason to pay (3, Insightful)

spacefem (443435) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090722)

I agree. I think the world need to change it's attitude about paying for online content/software, you don't pay because you can't steal it or they force you to or you get a whole lot more by putting money into it, you pay because you support people who do cool smart things, like Slashdot. Sort of a "put your money where your mouth is" deal.

IMHO Slashdot deserves a little cash, all. Face it. Open Source doesn't have a whole lot of alliances these days, we need to make the ones we have strong.

First subscriber! (-1)

AlfaWolph (194087) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090614)

Wh00t!

registered users get first post rights? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090618)

registered users get first post rights?

Re:registered users get first post rights? (1)

tcr (39109) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090709)

This could be pricey for the fp'ers who keep reloading the homepage... ;-)

PayPal? (5, Insightful)

the phantom (107624) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090620)

I have no problem with a subscription based /. (so long as it can still be got for free). I would pay $5 to see ad-free /. I might even pay more. We'll see how long 1000 pages lasts. However, I do not like doing business with PayPal. Please, ditch PayPal and give me an alternative!

FIRST POST MUTHAFUCKAS!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090622)

HAH.

Slashdot is Dying. (0, Funny)

LunchLady (555057) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090623)

I think the world will be a better place when this shit can of a website is dead.
When does the hardware get auctioned off? I'm going to install windows 2000 on everything I can!

Re:Slashdot is Dying. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090675)

> I think the world will be a better place when this shit can of a website is dead.

Very well said.
Mod parent up.

crapola!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090624)

THIS SUCKS!!

how can you charge me for first posting!!!

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Sounds like ZDNet (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090625)

I personally dont mind ads. If it keeps the internet free (or content sites like slashdot) I dont mind. The only ads that bug the living shit out of me are the ones on ESPN that popup and block what you are reading but are embedded in the page. As long as you dont have those I'll keep reading.

Khm... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090627)

> Eventually we intend to offer additional features to subscribers.

How about quality ?

Rejected submissions (4, Interesting)

melquiades (314628) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090631)

Access to the rejected submissions bin?

Yes, please -- with the opportunity to moderate or rank them, so the most interesting rejected submissions float to the top.

If a story gets a very positive ranking, maybe the editorial staff can give it a second thought. And if it goes the way of the troll, nobody is the worse for it.

It's called kuro5hin.org (4, Informative)

Skim123 (3322) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090698)

You should check out kuro5hin.org [kuro5hin.org] . It is a site where the users post the stories to a queue, and the community votes them to be shown on the site or not. Also, since the overall traffic is lower, the quality of postings/discussions is much higher than at /.

I still like reading /., though, b/c it's more news for nerds while k5, while it has it's technology and nerd news, also has a lot of political and social discussions. Oh yeah, and k5 also has subscriptions before /. did, but "subscribing" does nothing for you, really, since even if you don't subscribe you don't see any ads. (Although when k5 showed OSDN ads in the past, subscribing hid these banners...)

asdf (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090632)

wer wer ewr wer asf asd fasfd

first post cost (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090633)

how much does it cost to get the first post everytime

Karma (5, Interesting)

cansecofan22 (62618) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090634)

I think you should reward the people that have high karma by droping the rates, say someone with above a 30 gets $1 off the $5 rate, 40+ gets $2 and if you are maxed out at 50 you should have it for $3 off. That way you can reward the people that really use your site and are not just trolls.

Just My $.02

Paypal. What about us foreign readers! (0)

October_30th (531777) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090635)

Currently we only accept payment via paypal

Which is a nice way to prevent subscription by all us foreign readers/contributors. Thank you very much.

Besides Paypal sucks [paypalsucks.com] .

Disappointing.. (5, Insightful)

sudog (101964) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090636)

The subscription model is permeating everywhere. It's sad, and disappointing to have to choose to pay a small fee for the hundreds of websites I visit (and fork out literally hundreds upon hundreds of dollars) or to have to sit here and view large obnoxious ads.

Gee, I wonder what I'll do?

Let's try browsing with graphics turned off. *click* Ahh.. better.

Metered pricing vs. flat rate (5, Interesting)

2Flower (216318) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090637)

I'm not sure about this -- not that I refuse to pay, since I understand the web won't survive on a free-for-all basis forever. What I don't like is the fact that you pay for a number of pageviews, not for a period of time or some other flat rate.

Flat rate pricing has two advantages: simplicity, and comfort. It's simple to say 'Okay, no ads for a year for $x.' No need to count the pages you visit, or wonder if reloads count, or if changing the threshold settings to go from 500 posts to 15 is going to count as an add-free counter item.

Comfort, because I hate nervously watching a meter deplete and trying to optimize my web viewing habits in order to make sure I don't run out. When you say 82% of folks are covered... don't forget that this site caters to the hardcore sorts that participate the most and are likely to fall into the 18% that have to worry. I've never counted my page views, so I can't even tell if I fit that 18%.

And all things considered, I'd rather browse with javascript off and image loading off than worry about depleting my ad-free views. It's less hassle. Which means less profit for you, but that's free market in action... maybe when you add those value-added feature you're thinking about we'll be getting somewhere.

Biggest Story since 9/11 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090640)

And I've got First Post Muthafuckaz

Slashdot has become evil! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090641)

It was crap before any way, SAVE YOUR MONEY! USE BANNER BLOCKERS SUCH as /etc/hosts, banner blind (mozilla) or one of the millions of free banner blockers on the net. We don't want to give rob malda our hard earned money, if he got a REAL job instead of this shitty website he woundnt be shitting down your throat!

Sad but inevitable... (1)

cam_macleod (59140) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090642)

The internet is cool and new, but it's not special. Free TV, free newspapers, free magazines -- they've all had to deal with this too. Most of you are on one-way mailing lists that have the same situation.

We need to grudgingly accept commercialization of (much of) the Internet, but actively resist solely-corporate ownership. Companies are not nice, because they don't want friends, they want profit. Therefore, they will not protect innovation, they will not protect minorities, and they will NOT protect us.

Gradual integration is better than total obliteration.

I'm not leaving, but I'm not paying either (5, Interesting)

Nos. (179609) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090644)

While I love spending my time at work browsing slashdot, and I want to continue to do so, I highly doubt I will pay for it. This doesn't mean I won't continue to browse slashdot, just that I will use more bandwidth by viewing all of the "large ads" that will soon(?) appeard.

Remember folks, this isn't a mandatory service, you only pay if you want to avoid the ads. At least that's what I understand from Taco's article

support via content (5, Insightful)

Mr. Slippery (47854) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090645)

But we do need support from you if we are to continue.

Never forget that all of us who post intelligently are supporting you, by giving you free content. That is, after all, why people read /.

I can get tech news anywhere. The commentary (yes, you have to filter for trolls, flamebait, and stupidity, but that applies just as much to any major newspaper's op-ed page) is what makes the site worthwhile.

going, going, gone... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090646)

[almost] "free while they last" finally comes to an end on slashdot... it was a great ride.

question about what is a page (5, Insightful)

cullenfluffyjennings (138377) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090647)


What is a page? Each time I load www.slashdot.com? What happens if I load it, go read a link it points too then come back to it again?

Please provide more detail on how this scheme works

FP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090648)

FP!!! FP on this!!!!

paying for karma? (1)

[amorphis] (45762) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090650)

how about letting the karma pay our way?

use points of karma instead of cash, as long as a positive balance is maintained.
it would give a new meaning to karma whoring

Re:paying for karma? (2)

erasmus_ (119185) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090695)

I wonder if their hosting provider or their hardware vendors accept karma as method of payment. Somehow though, I think not.

Let the Flames Begin (5, Insightful)

erasmus_ (119185) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090654)

I can already see thousands of "free everything" advocates typing angrily away at their keyboards. Running a popular site costs money, and most sites are realizing that ads are not supported. I have come to accept subscriptions as a normal part of better sites these days, although I only actually subscribe to a few of them. As useful as Slashdot is, it'll probably be well worth the while.

Also keep in mind that unlike many subscription sites, Slashdot is not talking about premium content for major articles (like Salon or IGN), only little bonuses for subscribers, which is fair enough. I'll wait until the ads actually start appearing to make up my mind, but let's not flame Slashdot for coming in line with the almost defacto practice that today's Internet economy demands.

yeah (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090656)

Slashdot sucks. I'm tired of biased fake news. If I wanted that, I'd watch ABC or CBS.

Pay (1)

FigBugDeux (257259) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090657)

If I pay, will you remove the permament -1 posting bonus that is on my accuont, even though my karma is 14?

PayPal??? (3, Informative)

liquidsin (398151) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090661)

I wasted thirty precious minutes of my life trying to jump through hoops for them so I could sign up with a Canadian credit card. At the time I was trying to sign up for a PayPal acct. to purchase webhosting. In the end I found a host that didn't require me to pay with fucking paypal. Get the idea?

Yup, I know (2)

smoondog (85133) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090662)

We all knew it had to be coming. The question is, what would have worked better: 1) Building a volunteer subscription system and toting is features. 'OR' 2) Just opening a pay-pal account and asking for donations. It worked for laid off tod [slashdot.org] . Oh yeah, but he wasn't publically traded...

-Sean

This will be very awkward (5, Insightful)

Prop (4645) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090663)

I can see paying X dollars to surf without ads. A simple flat rate.

But of I have to start thinking "should I hit reload and waste a page view", it will make using Slashdot very awkward.

Time to install junkbuster

Slashdot charges for what exactly. (1, Insightful)

Craka (230346) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090664)

Okay various News services charge for *CONTENT* what exactly is Slashdot charging for? *Links to OTHERS content*. Am I the only one that finds this a little perverse? Slashdot survives on it's users to submit links, and others to create the content.

So, what we have here is this paradoxal existence: Charge the people that keep your site running and full of content.

Am I the only one that has a problem with this?

sites that had costly features? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090667)

What sites introduced features that cost more to add than maintain, I'm genuinely curious!

join slashdot! (1)

theCURE (551589) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090669)

All you have to fill out is

1. your home address
2. social security number
3. major credit card number
4. DOB and mothers maiden name

This is just for ad purposes we promise. You don't want us to go away do you???

PayPal only..? (4, Insightful)

antis0c (133550) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090670)

After reading about how much PayPal sucks on Slashdot, I don't think I'll be paying for any kind of subscription until there is another option available. PayPal isn't FDIC insured, isn't a real bank, and is being investigated and sued by various states and organizations.. I think I'll wait before handing over my credit card information to a potentially untrustworthy company.

As for the Subscriptions, well, I hope things work out, this could be really good for Slashdot, or really bad. I biggest concern is since I've read that only a small percent of Slashdot readers post and read articles, that means the majority only uses Slashdot as a proxy for news. If the banner ads start to annoy them, they'll start going straight to the new source.. Oh well, only time will tell, Good luck Slashdot team.

Good business practice? (1)

Krusher55 (414674) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090671)

"(As an aside, it's also worth noting that more than half of all comment posters fall into this 3%)"

Yeah, that is good business practice. Screw you most loyal customers most.

Had to happen (2)

GrokSoup (30253) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090673)

Sort of ironic that Slashdot, the bastion of free software, is being forced to go pay. While the mode is interesting -- paying for pages make a certain amount of sense -- I still wonder whether anyone will pay. Some may pay once, just in a kind of middle-finger to large-format advertisers, but I bet most will suck it up and go back to free eventually. Will that hurt Slashdot's economics? You tell us.

In lieu of paying you guys... (0, Redundant)

EricKrout.com (559698) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090674)

I have a serious proposal. Rob, Hemos, Tim, Michael -- read this.

In lieu of paying you guys five bucks a week for life ($5/week * 52 weeks/year * 70 more years/lifetime = a shitload of money), I have a proposal: I'll be Slashdot's spelling and grammar guy, aka Executive Editor. Never again will there be a comment busting on CmdrTaco's confusing AM/PM or spelling "receive" incorrectly. Hell, if I could even avoid those huge annoying Flash(tm) ads by spellchecking the trolls' posts, I'd do it!

;-)

stop lyin' (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090677)

We have all seen the VA Software annual and quarterly reports.

Slashdot is in fact profitable, very profitable.

So don't give us these lies.

What you mean is Slashdot won't be able to pay Larry Augustins ridiculous CEO salary without mega ads.

Granted Slashdot was the ONLY profitable part of VA.

So yes VA is losing money like crazy.

But Slashdot itself is plenty profitable, to the tune of several mil.

So stop with the lies.

Oh and pathetic mod, go look it up on the stock site of your choice before you mod this down.

Don't worry, the Slashdot staff will mod it down anyways, so save your karma for a butt sex comment or something.

Possible Repercussions (5, Insightful)

dlek (324832) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090678)

Subscriptions are fine, I can face reality, but I have one request: please don't let subscriptions affect posting in any way. If there's anything humanity's learned in the past century, it's that having money doesn't make you smarter. So getting +1 or a gold star on your post just cos you hate ads or love Slashdot enough doesn't make your views more worthwhile, and I don't think I'd stick around in a place where ideas aren't judged purely on their content.

I think what might come of this is a tighter ship splintering off into smaller, private Slashdot sites. For example, not to slag all the people who put thought into their posts, but a private Slashdot just including my friends and others by introduction would be great for me--less traffic, so I could actually read all the posts, and less noise, so I would bother.

Just a few random thoughts... I appreciate what Slashdot has been and hope it doesn't lose its shine.

Why bother? (1, Redundant)

Xpilot (117961) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090679)

What's the point of this? There's only one banner ad at the top, which is non-intrusive and I don't really notice it. Heck, I even like to see some of the cool stuff at thinkgeek once in a while (although I never buy anything). I don't know how much money you'll get from this.

What defines a page? (4, Interesting)

Stoutlimb (143245) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090682)

Each unique web page served to me? Or each slashdot story I click on, and all threads then suddenly are included in this page? If every time I hit "refresh" the counter goes down again, I'm going to be in sent to the poorhouse!

I like ads (2, Troll)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090683)

Let me just put out a vote that I don't mind big ads. I'm not a freeloader, and don't expect a free ride to pay for something as expensive as Slashdot.

And yes, if you use Junkbuster, you are a freeloader.

Sorry Taco. (1, Funny)

KupekKupoppo (266229) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090687)

Your baby went corporate, and became a whore. Now she's been around the block, and nobody's going to shell out cash when they know she puts out for free.

I'll go bathe now.

Reasonable (1)

darketernal (196596) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090688)

I agree that many FINE sites like /. are falling into tough times because there are so many religious readers.

Just please..PLEASE for the LOVE OF GOD...If I don't subscribe immediately...PLEASE DON'T PUT THOSE ******* BONZI BUDDY ADS there...or the ORBITZ ads...those TREE LOOT ads...My brain is already disintegrating. ;)

Question. If you use a text browser, how will the ads be any good? There's only so much you can put in an alt tag.

A few questions (4, Interesting)

mwalker (66677) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090689)

Questions:

Considering the number of articles posted here about PayPal fraud, will you accept any payment other than PayPal? Will you accept cash in the mail to ensure anonymity for the paranoid?

The rates are currently set at $5 per 1000 pages.

When we encounter the lameness filter trying to paste code into a comment, does that count as a page view?

Eventually we intend to offer additional features to subscribers. Exactly what those plums are remains to be decided: Access to the rejected submissions bin? A 'Gold Star' in your comments header? Karma?

May I reccommend the ability to pay to Disable Modbombing? [slashdot.org]

Good luck guys...

The new /. subscription service (1)

diatonic (318560) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090691)

The new slashdot subscription service:

Each month they publish a mens magaizine with comprimising photos of cowboyneal, and steamy letters of nerd love.

Great bathroom reading material.

How much will it cost... (4, Funny)

dots and loops (448641) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090693)

To block the goatse.cx postings?

Worst episode ever.... (1)

jailbreakist (159158) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090694)

Lisa: "They've given you [thousands] of [stories] for free. If anything you owe them...."

Comic book guy: "Worst [subscription service] ever."

Interesting system. (1, Troll)

neo (4625) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090697)

At $5 per 1000, you are around the cost of the very adds you are replacing. Nice touch that.

It's interesting that you've taken on this system after the recent Mega Tokyo thread. (I bet Jon Katz was behind it.)

I guess everyone is going to a subscription service model... even the free as in "free" slashdot.

Goodluck.

Missed it by that much... (2, Funny)

Vinson Massif (88315) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090700)

This announcement should have been held off for another 31 days. While the ./ sub announcement is serious, the ensuing hilarity from posting this on April 1st would have been priceless.

oh well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090703)

First windrivers , now /.

hmmm i don't seem to visit windrivers any more

just how anoying are these ads going to be?

with the stories getting sucky and very oftopic/advertisey
duno gues i'll have to see how it goes...I know
I wont be paying!

I can't blame Taco and Rob but still... (1)

SkyLeach (188871) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090708)

why can't it just be free? Look at the simple facts here: we came to /. because it provided a service: information. The information was free, but took a lot of time to assimilate. This made the /. service valuable in a time-saving kind of way. It wasn't built for profit, so it was popular.

Now people are trying to make money off of it. It's not going to happen. Don't kill the site just because you want to make money off of something you should never have payed million(s) for until you had a business model that worked. It's your fault. Don't look at us, the innocent readers.

This will kill /. and we (the readers and supporters) will simply move on. It will eventually catch up to kuro4hin.org too. It's not slashdot.org anymore it's slashdot.com.

Game over, this is just the drama after the final action scene.

Why so much hostility to this? (5, Interesting)

daviddennis (10926) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090712)

The people who run Slashdot are human, just like us, and need money, just like us. It does cost big bucks to put something like this together, and make sure it runs reliably. (I'm sure some long-time users are going to laugh at me for claiming that it does, but - well - it has been for some months now, and they obviously spent a lot doing it).

And I think the subscription model is actually fair - what it looks like they are doing is, effectively, telling us to run our own personal ads on Slashdot - that is, we're buying their unsold ad inventory and using it to remove ads..

Here's an idea: Subscribers could be allowed to create their own main page out of the accepted and rejected submissions, so they could run their own weblog within Slashdot with their own submissions always approved. Might be a nice ego boost.

Anyway, I certainly want to see Slashdot continue; I'm surprised at all the negative comments. You want to get paid, I want to get paid, and surely Rob et al likewise want to get paid.

It's just how the world goes 'round. It was artfully concealed for a long time ... but it's still how the world goes round.

D

Wait (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3090714)

No we can pay to talk about open source software / issues?

HA HA.

March 1st? Shouldn't this be April 1st? (1)

Shaper of Myths (148485) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090716)

Funny, I though April Fools was still a month away...

Seriously though, I haven't seen an ad on slashdot in two years thanks to filters (and I'm sure almost everyone who reads /. is in the same boat). Paying for it would be ridiculous, especially since most of the stories are posted by us, the users, anyway.

Regardless, I would never pay to join a club that would have me as a member...

One problem that I see... (5, Insightful)

thesolo (131008) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090719)

...is that under this model, those who contribute to slashdot the most, and make the site what it is, are forced to pay the most.

I think there should possibly be a "positive-discussion" discount, where if you post modded-up comments, you get more allowed page views. After all, you are helping the /. community.

I see the need for the system, I know you guys need to stay open, and I do understand that people like myself use up a lot of bandwidth on here, but I personally would really like to see some sort of reward for positively contributing to the site.

Am I also paying for accountability? (5, Insightful)

Multiple Sanchez (16336) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090723)

What kind of customer support will slashdot offer? What happens when there's a DOS attack or a slashbug and I can't access the site when I need it? With traditional publications, I have someone's ear to chew when the periodical isn't delivered as promised. What kind of assurances can slashdot give me that I'll get something for my money?

page views (5, Interesting)

BryceH (263331) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090726)

you must know how many pages users view. why not put that number in the _Your Info_ section on the _User Info_ page so that people can make informed decisions.

I don't like this ... (1)

NWT (540003) | more than 12 years ago | (#3090730)

Slashdot subscriptions will essentially let you buy a thousand pages to be viewed without banner ads.

Come on ... this is rather silly, i wouldn't pay for banner-free pages.

Why does Slashdot do this? Does Taco need more money for the fourthcoming wedding oder does OSDN want more money?
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