Welcome to the Slashdot Beta site -- learn more here. Use the link in the footer or click here to return to the Classic version of Slashdot.

Thank you!

Before you choose to head back to the Classic look of the site, we'd appreciate it if you share your thoughts on the Beta; your feedback is what drives our ongoing development.

Beta is different and we value you taking the time to try it out. Please take a look at the changes we've made in Beta and  learn more about it. Thanks for reading, and for making the site better!

Exploding Star May Have Damaged Life on Earth

Hemos posted more than 12 years ago | from the like-the-death-star dept.

Space 239

Reedo writes "Scientists have proposed that an ancient supernova may have damaged our ozone layer, wreaking havok on terrestrial life. Previously no one had realized that a cluster of stars could have been so close to the earth during that time. But don't worry about it happening again anytime soon. The next expected supernova is nearly 500,000 light-years away and is too far from the earth to cause any damage."

cancel ×


Sorry! There are no comments related to the filter you selected.

frost pist (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141301)

It hurts and stuff, but you already knew that.

first post suckas!!!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141302)


Hi there! (-1, Troll)

CmdrStkFjta (565570) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141303)

I am CmdrStkFjta and this is my first post.

Re:Hi there! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141313)

Commander Steak Fajita, it is a pleasure to meet you. My name is Anonymous Coward, I hope together we may entertain people well with our trolling and other crapflooding antics. I look forward to working with you.

Re:Hi there! (-1, Offtopic)

CmdrStkFjta (565570) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141353)

Thank you for your warm welcome. Cheers to all!

Re:Hi there! (-1, Offtopic)

CmdrStkFjta (565570) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141434)

BOOOO! That's no way to treat a new comer.

*wishes* (-1)

beee (98582) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141304)

hopefully there will be another one and it will harm the lowest forms of life on earth... slashdot janitors and karma whores.

save jonkatz on a rocket, he is the alpha male of our dying race

this third post brought to you by modest mouse

Ozone damage (0, Troll)

amemily (462019) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141308)

Wonder if the tree huggers will protest and try to ban "ozone damaging supernovas"

Re:Ozone damage (-1)

beee (98582) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141317)


oh, wait, it wasn't funny at all. die cunt.

Re:Ozone damage (-1)

Mayor McPenisman (557253) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141399)





Re:Ozone damage (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141416)

That comment is so witty, that it's almost embarrassing.

But don't worry... (1)

68030 (215387) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141310)

I love how all the impending doom forcasts that
come from NASA and such other large organizations
are always closed with "But don't worry about
this happening for (large number) of years."

Sure, it's probably because we'll see it
coming and still not be able to do anything
about it, but I find the trend amusing none
the less.

doh! (4, Funny)

flynt (248848) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141315)

But don't worry about it happening again anytime soon. The next expected supernova is nearly 500,000 light-years away and is too far from the earth to cause any damage."

Too bad, I was thinking of a way out of doing my math homework tonight.

Re:doh! (5, Funny)

prizzznecious (551920) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141341)

That's not funny. My dog died in a supernova. I miss you Fluffy.

Re:doh! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141539)

Why is this a troll? This was a joke, and it was pretty funny to boot. Stop this!

no... (3, Funny)

doooras (543177) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141318)

and i had come to believe it was all because of the anti-time anomaly

Mars missions? Pah! (1)

OgdEnigmaX (535667) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141469)

What disappoints me most about contemporary NASA policy is how they persistently ignore the fact that we've got to get to the Devron system! You'd think they'd have figured that out by now. It's like the chicken and the egg!


Re:Mars missions? Pah! (1)

Wehesheit (555256) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141559)


Re:Mars missions? Pah! (1)

dimator (71399) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141684)

That will be the day!

Inane (2, Insightful)

prizzznecious (551920) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141322)

I'm really unhappy with CNN. This theory is insultingly ludicrous.

It's preposterous to think that there could have been even ONE supernova in our vicinity (let alone "several" as stated in the article) without obvious lingering effects, i.e., a remnant special star like a neutron star or a black hole and/or some sort of nebula. "Several million years" is nothing in cosmic time--the nebulae that those stars would have left would barely have dispersed at all.

Not to mention that our position in the galaxy is somewhat peculiar. We are on the rim of a huge and empty vastness called the local bubble. The speculation (since there's a pulsar on the other side of the local bubble) is that the portion of space near us was cleared out by a big supernova some time ago (probably ~5-6 billion years ago, as our sun was almost certainly formed in its wake). How could these researchers possibly think that several supernova could have passed through without leaving similarly obvious signatures?

Re:Inane (5, Informative)

snowlick (536497) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141410)

"But Maiz-Appellanis and Benitez did some detective work and came up with the likely culprit -- a volatile star pack known as the Scorpius-Centaurus OB Association, which passed relatively near the solar system several million years ago."

A google search turned up:
The association is embedded in a large roughly circular structure; this is a huge bubble of hot gas created by the stellar winds of the numerous massive stars in the association and by several super-nova explosions, which happened in the Scorpius Centaurus association during the last few million years. []

So supernovas have happened in our local bubble, and evidently quite close.

Re:Inane (1)

prizzznecious (551920) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141440)

Mmm. The nearest one from that association is ~500ly away. In my humblest of opinions that makes this theory pretty far-fetched, even if they've been moving away from as at a very high rate for the past few million years. Remember, they say that Antares poses no danger, and it's only 500-600ly away too.

Re:Inane (2, Informative)

snowlick (536497) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141481)

This article [] points out that some stars in the cluster could have been as close as 130 light-years away around 2 million years ago. The local bubble itself is only 150 light-years across, so the earth would have been within the necessary range for damage to occur.

There's also a theory [] floating around that a star in the cluster actually made the local bubble.

Re:Inane (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141477)

it's not so ludicrous. Stars travel, and millions of years ago there could have been some stars "passing through" and now the remanents of the supernova could be relatively far away. I think their Antares figure is a typo though, isn't our galaxy only 100,000 lightyears across? And besides, no normal star in our galaxy is moving fast enough, relative to us, to cover 500,000 lightyears in only a few million years.

my $.02

Re:Inane (3, Informative)

cp99 (559733) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141546)

Perhaps you should read the article [] (the scientific paper that is, not the CNN article) before dismissing it as "insultingly ludicrous."

The local bubble is thought to have formed approx. 10 million years ago, not 5-6 billion.

The paper also references works that show that the various subgroups which make up the Scorpius-Centaurus OB association, have produced plenty of supernova's in the past.

Not Inane (2, Insightful)

tm2b (42473) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141631)

If a star supernovaed as it passed us, the remnants would have on average roughly the same velocity as the star group - they would also be 500,000 light years away now.

I doubt CNN made this story out of full cloth, I'm sure the theory has more to back it up than CNN reported - it's not like CNN is a scientific journal, they always trim corroborating details.

(Frankly, I think it's absurd that this comment was moderated to the top.)

Stephen Hawking's Universe (1)

Stripsurge (162174) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141644)

They talked about this very subject in Stephen Hawking's Universe. Surely I'm not the only one that saw it. Surely you're not going to call him a crackpot too? Could somebody back me up here?

Possible Consequences? (1)

guinan (191856) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141323)

When they say "wreak havoc" on terrestrial life I wonder what the extent really could have been..
( more data! )

If there was a mass irradiation, it might give some more explanation to the mass extinction that happened at the end of the Devonian period that basically cleaned out most of the diverse sea-life ( there wasn't much on land those days )
Of course, someone please tell me if I have my time-periods wrong, I'm no geologist..


500,000 light years away... (2, Informative)

SVDave (231875) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141326)

Note that, the article claims that the next star in that cluster expected to go supernova is 500,000 light years away.

Of course, it also claims that that star is Antares, which is actually about 600 light years away.

Re:500,000 light years away... (0)

prizzznecious (551920) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141333)

Moreover, our galaxy is only about 18-26,000ly in diameter (for perspective). This article is garbage.

Re:500,000 light years away... (1)

Fenresulven (516459) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141392)

Actually our galaxy is ~100.000ly in diameter, but I agree with your conclusion.

Re:500,000 light years away... (1)

prizzznecious (551920) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141447)

You are quite right. Just for the sake of interest, 26,000ly is approximately the distance we are from the center of the Milky Way. Glad you caught that.

big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141328)

scientists are always proposing stuff that invariably turns out untrue. Get a load of that Newton guy, for instance.

500000 light years? (5, Informative)

MillionthMonkey (240664) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141329)

From the article:
The next member of the gang expected to go supernova is Antares, which at almost 500,000 light-years away is too distant to rattle our planet, they say.

What kind of dope are these astronomers smoking? Antares is 500 light years [] away.

Still quite distant, but 500000 light years will place you well outside the Milky way. It's about as far as the Magellanic clouds.

Re:500000 light years? (5, Informative)

Ellen Ripley (221395) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141363)

What kind of dope are these astronomers smoking?

CNN was smoking the dope. Other sources reported 500 light-years. :-)


Re:500000 light years? (0)

linatux (63153) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141367)

Not only that, but it could have blown it's load 499.998 years ago and we wouldn't be any the wiser!

Re:500000 light years? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141411)

What kind of dope are YOU SMOKING? The Magellanic clouds are 160,000 light-years from the earth.

go to and see for yourself

Re:500000 light years? (2)

MillionthMonkey (240664) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141515)

What kind of dope are YOU SMOKING? The Magellanic clouds are 160,000 light-years from the earth.

I guessed 500000 light years would get you at least as far as the Magellanic clouds. If they're 160000 light years away then I pegged it within one order of magnitude, which is a hell of a lot better than being off by three. And the Milky Way has about a dozen dwarf satellite galaxies that are up to 830,000 light years away. []

Re:500000 light years? (1)

jsse (254124) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141535)

What kind of dope are these astronomers smoking? Antares is 500 light years [] away. Still quite distant, but 500000 light years will place you well outside the Milky way. It's about as far as the Magellanic clouds.

My boss must be smoking same kind of dope. The Y2K problem became Y2000K in his management summary - Man this guy is really thinking ahead!

Oh man... (1)

tcd004 (134130) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141330)

More fodder for the pseudo-science of denying the existance of global warming.

Amazing. Global warming and Ozone depletion in 70 billion B.C. was caused by a SuperNova. Global warming in the 1970's was caused by the Chevy Nova.

Why does Michael Jordan want to see your underpants? []


So if this hadn't occurred.. (1)

Ccochese (158111) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141331)

So if this hadn't occurred, would we all have flying cars and eliminated world hunger and learned to all peacefully coexist by now? How far back did this set us..

Re:So if this hadn't occurred.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141461)

Well yes, but unfortunately we would all be ruled by Ned Flanders.

So all in all, things have worked out for the best.

Effect on evolution? (5, Interesting)

cybermage (112274) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141339)

Makes you wonder if we're here to discover it happened because it happened.

Re:Effect on evolution? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141555)

when you... think about how the universe was made... it's the universe thinking about itself.

BS (1)

Dr Kool, PhD (173800) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141343)

If the life is gone then how can we verify that it even existed at all?? Kind of like saying 100 unknown species of animals go extinct in the rainforest every day...

Indeed (2)

Edmund Blackadder (559735) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141485)

"If the life is gone then how can we verify that it even existed at all?? "

You are so right. And to think of it until recently i believed the lies scientists told me about dynasours roaming the earth.

Re:BS (1)

cp99 (559733) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141564)

Because all of a sudden, their fossils stopped appearing in the geological column.


Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141347)


aint she the cutest youve ever seen???


Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141365)

How's this [] friend?

Haha... Chevy Nova (1)

KanSer (558891) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141357)

Hmm... Could mass radiation have done something to life forms today? We always hear about our odds of being a planet with life. First our distance from the sun and then the fact that it gives out lower then average radiation. Is the time frame right for creating the "missing link" or just plain skipping it? As you can tell, I'm no biologist.

Exploding post may have widened your page! (-1)

Klerck (213193) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141369)

.I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you .don't .have .enough .charaters .per .line .that .really .sucks .when .that .happens .and .you .have .to .put .some .lame .lameness .filter .defeater .text .in .there .i .wonder .how .many .people .will .read .this .whole .comment .I .certainly .hope .it .doesnt .annoy .too .many .people .This .is .just .the .beginning .because .PAGE .WIDENING .IS .BACK .I .like .wide .pages .I .wish .all .pages .could .be .as .wide .as .this .dont .you .wide .pages .are .much .cooler .than .those .narrow .pages .you .are .used .to .reading .because .you .dont .have .to .worry .about .the .lameness .filter .telling .you .that .you

That's no star! (2, Funny)

albeit unknown (136964) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141370)

It's a space station!

Re:That's no star! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141691)

ROFL. Funniest post ever.

Plankton, OK, but what else? (2, Interesting)

chennes (263526) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141371)

They talk about this showing up in the marine fossil record, but what about on land? The article mentions some geological data, but is there any on-land paleontological evidence to support this? Also, they only talk about it killing plankton - does that mean that it was too far away to kill anything larger directly? Perhaps this is why we haven't run across it in any other fossil records...

Kick in the pants to get life started (1)

PDXRedcat (29992) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141373)

I personally think this was the accident that killed off all the smart proto-plasm.

Anyone else with me on this hair brained idea?

Re:Kick in the pants to get life started (-1)

Mayor McPenisman (557253) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141422)


I hope the OED people don't arrest me:

1. One who has a brain like a hare's, or no more brain than a hare; a giddy or reckless person. Obs.

1550 BALE Apol. 29 Thys rashe kynde of vowyng..he may wele bequethe to his madmen, hys harebraynes. a1553 UDALL Royster D. I. iv. (Arb.) 27 Ah foolish harebraine, This is not she. 1621 BURTON Anat. Mel. I. ii. III. ix. (1651) 105 What a company of hare-brains have done in their rage. a1670 HACKET Abp. Williams II. 137 (D.) The hare-brains among us are engaged with them.

Re:Kick in the pants to get life started (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141521)

They didn't kill off ALL of them! I'm not dead yet!

Slashdot Future updated!! (-1)

Serial Troller (556155) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141374)

  • 2002. Slashdot publishes 1,000,000th rumor passed off as actual story. The story generates 480 comments, 263 of which agree with the article, and 107 of which point out its a rumor and are modded down as redundant. The remaining comments are all first posts.
  • 2002. CmdrTaco married to Kathleen Fent. Many geeks believe Kathleen, a purported transvestite, outmeasures CmdrTaco.
  • 2002. Slashdot parent corporation VA Research^W Linux^W Software stock worth 35 cents. Rumors that AOL, Microsoft, or even Jimmy the hobo who lives under the Longfellow Bridge may buy it.
  • 2003. VA Software bought by Microsoft for a cup of coffee and a donut. All Microsoft-critical articles mysteriously disappear from Slashdot. Bill Gates as Borg logo replaced with Bill Gates as God.
  • 2003. Papperatzi videos of Miguel de Icaza caught going down on Bill Gates in his private yacht spread across Usenet. Miguel swears that recent decisions to rename the Gnome desktop to Windows NT 6.0 have nothing to do with it.
  • 2004. CmdrTaco loses hist virginity.
  • 2004. The WIPO Troll returns again, showering Slashdot in 45,000 copies of the same post: Lick my crotch hairs. Slashdot, despite running on 18 redundant IIS/8.0 servers, buckles under the load. The term Slashdotted is replaced with WIPO-Trolled.
  • 2004. Slashdot, the last vestige of VA Research^W Linux^W Software^W Microsoft, officially shut down. Millions of screaming, unwashed geeks invade Redmond campus and lynch Bill Gates. CmdrTaco is believed to posess the only remaining copy of the Slashdot database on several hundred CD-Rs.
  • 2005. The Linux is world is shocked when Linus Torvalds and Anal Cox are found dead along with six penguins, an empty tub of crisco and several used condoms. Millions of screaming, unwashed geeks invade Redmond campus and lynch Steve Ballmer.
  • 2005. CmdrTaco rumored to have had sex again.
  • 2006. CowboiKneel found dead in hotel room with 56 pizza boxes covering his bloated corpse. Three suffocated gay prostitutes are extracted from beneath his body as police remove it with a backhoe.
  • 2007. CmdrTaco actually has sex again. With a woman.
  • 2007. BSD is still officially dying. No word on when its demise will take place.
  • 2007. CmdrTaco starts new weblog to replace Slashdot, creatively named Dotslash. Remainder of Linux users flock to the site and immediate WIPO-Troll it out of existence.
  • 2008. CmdrTaco has sex with his wife for the first time.
  • 2009. After years of living under the heel of his domineering wife, and being deprived of companyof his life-long friend, Jeff Homos Bates, CmdrTaco commits suicide. Another unwashed geek mob gathers and tears Kathleen Fent to shreds. Geeks discover Ms. Fent was indeed a woman, but dont exactly know what that means. Driven by their sexually-repressed rage, they subsequently invade Redmond again and lynch the current CEO of Microsoft, Miguel deIcaza.
  • 2009. Richard Stallman mysteriously murdered. Conspiracy theories run rampant, most involving Microsoft in some way. Invasions of Redmond campus by hordes of geeks become commonplace.
  • 2010. Stallman murder solved when Eric S. Raymond confesses. Raymond blamed the collapse of VA Research^W Linux^W Software^W Microsoft on Stallmans dogmatic insistence on prefixing every open-source project with GNU. Raymond is subsequently committed to an insane asylum, again giving the horde of geeks an excuse to raze Redmond.
  • 2010. An ex-hacker reports witnessing CmdrTaco at a gas station in Tennessee. The nearly-defunct Linux movement is rekindled as CmdrTaco sightings become common.
  • 2011. Microsoft campus burnt to the ground by screaming, unwashed geek mob after Microsoft is blamed when a Linuxhacker in Cambridge, Massachusetts spills his coffee on his pants. Microsoft undaunted as their plans to buy out the Federal Government come to fruition. Washington, D.C. renamed Microsoft Capitol 2010.

$Id: future.html,v 1.3 2002/03/11 06:23:06 stroller Exp $

Netcraft Confirmd: Win* Is Dying (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141378)

Unfortunately, Netcraft Internet Survey has officially confirmed that Win* is dying. Turns out they had a typo when they said *BSD was dying.

Time (1, Interesting)

radoni (267396) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141379)

When exactly *is* 500,000 years? let's say that the next-nearest Nova goes off somewhere in a galaxy far far away. the actual light wouldn't reach for half a million years?

I'm sure this is rocking a dead baby, but how do the "experts" signify exactly *when* things happen, and what specifically that means. Do the anomolies happen and are observed later, the event of which is estimated in reverse?

Does this mean if i put instant coffe in a microwave, i'll go backwards in time?

Re:Time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141404)

When exactly *is* 500,000 years?

oh that's an easy one! The year 502002!

It's an intelligent guess (2)

jesterzog (189797) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141487)

Well firstly like others have pointed out, Antares is nothing like 500,000 light years away. That's a 1000-fold error and lazy journalism on CNN's part.

As for when it's going to happen, the stellar time scale is so big compared with what we're used to that it really comes down to a guess. This is figured out based on studying other stars and coming up with theories about the life cycles that they follow... and the theories are always being revised and revised and revised as more information pours in.

Antares is a red giant star that's used up all it's hydrogen, and now it's fusing together heavier and heavier elements, and starting to run out. It might die tommorrow or it might die a million years from now. All that's known at the moment is that it's very near to the end of its life cycle, and that it's massive enough such that when it dies it'll likely go out with a very big bang, probably about as bright for a while as the rest of the Galaxy put together. (We see this happen with stars in other galaxies every so often when an unknown star that couldn't be seen individually suddenly lights up out of nowhere.)

Nobody knows exactly when it'll happen, though.

Re:Time (1)

anshil (302405) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141538)

Well actually you're facing the same problem many have whith special relativity. (including my prof. :o): To realize that there is not one "true" universe where space and time counts, but every point sees (or even has) it's own universe.

Well in the non existing global universe you could say that the star exploded 500,000 years ago, but this view is irrelevant. For us 500,000 light years away, the star explodes "right now" in the moment we see it's flashlight. Or receive a massive neutrino impact the day before. (Thats not because neutrinos travel faster than light! But because the star stars sending them a day before it explodes.)

Again every point has it's own universe. You can feel it mathematically if you take two equations, which hold both true but for two different obversers and substitute them toghether, you get math. nonsene like 1=2. Thats because bath equations may be true, but not in the same "universe". As Einstain proofed this even goes further, as there isn't even global simultaneousness, things that way happen synchron for one observer, way be seen in sequence by anoter observer, or even in reverse sequence by yet another observer.

Re:Time (2)

gilroy (155262) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141581)

Blockquoth the poster:

Or receive a massive neutrino impact the day before. (Thats not because neutrinos travel faster than light! But because the star stars sending them a day before it explodes.)

I thought the discrepancy came from the fact that neutrinos pass through matter much more easily than light, which needs to bounce its way clear.

Also today..... (0, Troll)

Xamdam_us (524194) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141381)

A crucial break in the detective case came from a fortuitous source, Benitez's wife, microbiologist Matilde Canelles, whom Benitez enlisted to search the fossil record for clues.

In other science news, Joe Blow invents the first Warp Drive. When asked about his shocking discovery he replied, "Just ask my wife".

How far away? (1)

Ellen Ripley (221395) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141383)

Does anyone know how far away the cluster was at the time of the alleged nova? I googled around but couldn't find that figure.


Re:How far away? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141454)

googled around?

When are you people going to learn that google is not what's it's cracked up to be?

Lycos or Yahoo has that info, yet the vaulted google falls flat.

Google doesn't find it so you give up and ask here? How pathetic is that? Lycos too hard to spell?

Give me a break....

Re:How far away? (1)

cp99 (559733) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141637)

A wee bit over 100 pc.

Hmm... (1)

AndreAtlan (529906) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141385)

"500,000 light-years away and is too far from the earth to cause any damage." Thanks for the double clarification, I knew my studies astrophysics class wouldnt last!

How much of this is tied to evolution? (1)

ilovekimmy (531116) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141403)

I was just wondering how much of this is tied to the neodarwinian theory of evolution. Doesn't that theory have circular dependencies with the fossile record? I've also heard a lot about errors in radiometric dating and stuff like that, but I have yet to fully look into it.

Anyway, how much of this story is influenced by the idea of evolution, and how would the story read if fallicies were found in the NDT?

Re:How much of this is tied to evolution? (3, Informative)

gilroy (155262) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141592)

The fossil record is "tied to" Darwinian theory only in that the latter is the most successful explanation of the former. Fossils are found things, not theoretical constructs. Determining their sge depends a lot on physics (through radioactive dating) but only weakly, if at all, on biology.

Congratulation on your PI POST! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141649)

Your post number (#3141592) is a substring of the infinite decimal expansion of the transcendantal number pi! And you even posted it at 03:14AM, how amazing is that! Oh and here was e's post [] .

Re:How much of this is tied to evolution? (2, Informative)

cp99 (559733) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141629)

These finds are unrelated to the theory of evolution. The theory of evolution is one of sciences most impressive theories which has withstood attacks both fair and foul. The basic theory doesn't rely on super nova's millions of years ago.

The theory of evolution doesn't have circular dependencies on the fossil record. That's just creationist wishful thinking.

When you mention errors in radiometric dating, do you refer to the unaccuracies that science knows and accounts for, or do you refer to delibrate misuse of radiometric dating by Steve Austin (the creationist, not the wrestler)?

If NDT was incorrect, the science behind this (ie. supernova ~2 million years ago killed off lots of marine life) would still stand.

distances sound wacked. (3, Informative)

Alien54 (180860) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141405)

500,000 light-years away

The Galactic core is closer than that, the last I checked. Andromeda is about 2 million LY away, if I recall right. Let's see.

Antares = 520 light years []

CNN cites the Scorpius-Centaurus OB Association [] of stars which is actually about 470 light years away [] .

So CNN was off only by a factor of a thousand. Interesting theory, if they can get the facts right.

hehehe (2)

Edmund Blackadder (559735) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141473)

They know their readers just glance over the numbers. and btw 417 is a small number. when you are talking about space u have to say at least thousands (preferably millions and billions).

Cycle of Mass Extinction (3, Interesting)

jsse (254124) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141407)

Researchers have always worried about there might be in fact a single cause of Mass Extinction [] . You can refer to this graph [] for the rough interval of mass extinction.

Most people believe that the meterorite impacts [] is responsible for the mass extinction, but now this new findings may sparks a new way of thinking - the murderer may be someone else.

If we believed that there's a cycle for Mass Extinction, there we don't have much to worry about - as it's still millions of years away. However, some people also believe that the Sixth Extinction [] might come earlier, because human was not present in the last 5 extinction, and that makes the great difference.

Thank you for reading my trolling. I quote as much online reference as possible, but actually my point of view are from the books I read. My apology.

Re:Cycle of Mass Extinction (2)

tftp (111690) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141662)

The cycle of mass extinction is 8,000 years :-I

For those who didn't read the book, do it now [] - this is an interesting story! You can buy used for just $2.

IANAL ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141409)

I'm half expecting to see some law firm to
start a class action on behalf of the dinosaurs
descendents. Who WAS the previous owner of that

Re:IANAL ... (-1)

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (537317) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141433)

If you are not a lawyer, then spare us your law advice. dumpfuck

planet X is gonna get us (0)

Benjiman McFree (321140) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141429)

So who really cares about civil liberties anyway, NOT!

Mars and Moon save Earth! (0)

CmdrStkFjta (565570) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141430)

Giant Super Nova passes through solar system! This time Earth saved by Mars and it's very own Moon due to the alignment at the time of this Universal specatacle. Amazing!

German Foods (-1, Offtopic)

petrolleum (555766) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141432)

Europe has long been heralded as a continent full of culture. Astounding amounts of art, science, and philosophy has come from it over the centuries, and even more is developed every year. Germany in particular stands out among the rest in liturature and the sciences. Yet one thing it is not appreciated for is its excellent homegrown cuisine. In fact, many cynics go as far as to ridicule it.
France is well known for high-profile and good looking small gourmet foods. Italy is known for its exquisite and oily Meditarranean dinners. Spain for its spicy, moslem-inspired dishes. Yet germany, which had its roots from barbaric germanic tribes that lived in the forest always based its kitchen on whatever ingredients were available. For this reason German cuisine fits the ticket of "comfort food". Expanding from a base list of native meats, potatoes, cabbage, spinach, asparagus and gravy, germans have come up with delectable dishes like schnitzel, mashed potatoes with gravy, spinach with potatoes, blood sausage, white sausage, bratwurst, liverwurst, hamburgers, steak with potatoes, boiled cabbage, boiled asparagus and chocolate.
Before the Middle Ages and the inevitable creation of the German state, most german peasants or barbarians lived on meat and milk. During the era of the Roman Empire german tribesmen were reported to eat about two pounds of meat a day and about 2 liters of milk. Later with the discovery of the New World came the usage of the potato for nourishment. These ingredients became staple for Teutonic foods. Rich in starch, protein, and calcium this allowed Germans to recieve a plentiful diet which would help fuel them through many wars against various foes over the millennia. Until the industrial age beginning in the 18th century Germany remained a very fertile agricultural state, helping in the tending of farm animals and vegetable plantations.
Although Germany has always been a relatively xenophobic society, essences of other culture's cooking have shown through in traditional cuisine. Spices imported from the East were and are used to flavor foods. Noodles from Italy found a new home in the Home of the Huns. All the countries that at any point completely controlled the area of modern day Germany, namely France has also left its insiduous touch on the essential german kitchen. Still the desire to roll everything in fat and create wholesome and rich foods remains a very German trait. With modern international cooking leaning more towards a leaner and healthier diet, german food seems to fly in the face of this standard. Yet there are few people who do not occasionally crave a gigantic sausage in their mouths, or fried potatoes, or a big plateful of sauerkraut served by a plump and happy German housewife. No matter where humanity steers itself in the future, there will always be a place for the mother of all comfort foods, german cuisine.
Surprisingly enough, even America has adopted some of Germany's finest cooking. Sauerkraut, renamed "liberty cabbage" during the First World War out of spite, became a national standard as a hotdog topping. The hotdog itself is a variation of the universal German sausage. Millions of Americans hungrily ram their sausages down their throats at places like baseball and football games. Beer, a beverage crafte by civilizations around the world, was perfected by Germany and shipped to America for their enjoyment. The famous hamburger, which many restaurants bet their livlihoods on, is an interpretation of an old style of a german sandwhich. For this reason not only is America indebted to Germany for its scientific achievements but also spectacular culinary acheivements.

Elvis (1)

Snoopy77 (229731) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141438)

Sorry, I only read the headline and thought it was about the cultural damage cause by Elvis' exploding weight and ultimately his death. Would probably have made for a more interesting read.

Re:Elvis (-1, Offtopic)

CmdrStkFjta (565570) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141459)

Stars are actually sequins from Elvis' outfits, you know.

Re:Elvis (-1)

Serial Troller (556155) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141471)

Already autoposting at ZERO, I see. Welcome to the sewers, newbie!

Your post was (#3141459)... the post.

Been there, done that (3, Funny)

Waffle Iron (339739) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141452)

Since most of our bodies' mass is made of elements heavier than helium, we've all been inside at least one supernova explosion. Things have really quieted down around here since those days.

I don't even want to contemplate how much energy was given off forming the elements I'm made of. Now there's hardly enough energy left over for me to get up and fetch another beer.

Re:Been there, done that (1)

cp99 (559733) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141557)

There's always enough energy to get another beer.

The paper has the details (3, Informative)

jquiroga (94119) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141453)

Please read the paper [] before dismissing the theory.

Whew! (1)

LinuxOnHal (315199) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141458)

> But don't worry about it happening again
> anytime soon. The next expected supernova is
> nearly 500,000 light-years away and is too far > from the earth to cause any damage."

Man, you had me going there for a minute. I was getting pretty worried, but I'm glad you straightened it all out for us in the end :-)

Gotta love scientists (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141466)

"Previously no one had realized that a cluster of stars could have been so close to the earth..."
"But don't worry about it happening again [...] The next expected supernova is [...] too far from the earth to cause any damage."

gotta love how those two go together


This reminds me of something that happened to me. (-1, Offtopic)

petrolleum (555766) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141476)

I remember the train ride well. The station at Westhampton was still closed due to the fire and I had to get on at Speonk. This did have the advantage that the fare was slightly cheaper. I had purchased a cup of coffee from a heavy guy in the little shop by the station. Soon enough the loud, filthy diesel engine was pulling to a stop. I walked over and climbed in. There were only two cars open and I knew from experience that the one I was in, six inches or so taller than the other, was the one with air conditioning. The train was very empty but the people who were on it had lots of luggage. I took a forward facing seat on the side with the double seats. A row up in front of me there was an oldish woman with a young child on the triple seat side. The child was sleeping and the woman was staring out the window. This was one of the rare cars with windows free enough from scratches to actually look through. The conductor came and punched my ticket. "Transfer at Jamaica." I had hoped to find a newspaper on the train, but it was clean. I had nothing to do but stare out the window and sip my coffee. Rounda- bouts Patchogue the train whistle had aroused the baby and the woman was trying to pacify it. I first started looking at them about that time. The woman had a very wrinkled mouth and loose skin hanging off her neck. I decided that she might not be old after all, but just have some skin weirdness. Her arms seemed perfectly fine after all and her eyes had a decidedly youthful shine. Maybe the kid was hers. I hoped that the kid would have a better draw of looks than the mother. The kid began crying louder after someone slammed the sliding door shut returning from a cigarette between the cars. The kid had very little hair and seemed to be quite young. The baby looked about nine-ten pounds. The woman was holding it close to her chest, smoothing the scarce hair, and talking softly to it. "Hush my baby, quiet my baby. All is alright, silence my little one. Dry your tears, quell your fears, lil' baby. Your mother is here, my small infant son." The woman had lovely copper-red hair in a long braid. She put the baby in her lap so that she would have a free hand to reach into her bag. She pulled out a bottle to feed the child. I turned my eyes to her breasts under the purple tee-shirt. Largish and firm, decidedly not those of an old woman. The baby refused the bottle and continued to bawl. She checked the diaper, satisfied, she left it on. She put the bottle back and lifted the child to her chest again. Swaying gently she began to recite a lyric I couldn't understand. It might have been Scots or Old English because I thought I could make out parts but mostly it was beyond me. We pulled out of Babylon, the train was now express to Jamaica; about an hour away. The conductor made one last pass through the car and disappeared into the closed first car. I turned around and noticed There was only one other person in the car way off at the other end, apparently sleeping. I smiled to see him so peaceful in spite of the crying. My coffee was finished now, it seemed unlikely I could get any sleep. I turned back to look at the woman and child. I stared at her chest. The kid was flailing his arms about as he cried and one of his fists kept hitting her chest and causing the breasts to vibrate temptingly. I noticed that I was getting hard but ignored it. Then the woman reached up and touched her chin in an odd way. She stopped her poetry and hummed instead. Moments later her jaw dropped down several inches. She glanced over at me for the first time and I pretended to stare out the window. I examined the sight from the corner of my eye. Her jaw was very odd looking. It was as if the entire bone had descended to in front of her Adam's apple. She began to undress the child. The screams seemed louder and now unable to reach her bosom with its hands, the kid managed to keep her chest jiggling by kicking. I was rubbing myself through my jeans. My erection was very much un-ignorable. Then she did something unnatural. She stretched her mouth open wider than the kid's skull. I guessed she must of dislocated her jaw or something when it fell down. The wrinkled skin of her lips was now stretched taut. Her face looked as distorted as something in a funny mirror, but it didn't look old. I opened my fly and pulled out my penis, much turned on by the kink value of this new development. She lifted the baby up to her mouth and it seemed to go crazy with fear. She held its arms still and began to slip the skull in her mouth. It was a tight fit. I was masturbating now, not even thinking how odd it must be to do it in such a public place. She leaned her head back and lifted the baby above her so that gravity would help push it down her throat. The baby began to urinate out of fear. The stream sprayed against the wall the seats in front. She was slowly pushing the child down her throat. The loose skin of her neck was filling out with the meal. Once the whole head was in her mouth she stopped and sealed her lip around its throat. I squeezed my glans and frenulum together with my thumb and forefinger with each stroke. The waves of pleasure flowed wonderfully from the pressure. The pissing had stopped and the baby was slowing down. The urine on the walls still dripped. The woman was quite still for several minutes and I slowed my masturbation to keep me going for the whole thing. It was a long time after the baby had ceased to move that she began to start swallowing. She held on to the child's feet and slowly lowered them as her throat strained to engulf the body. I wondered at once how she could breathe, but then put the thought out of my mind. I was enjoying this too much to question it. Her mouth and throat were grossly distorted from the human norm and her chest was beginning to swell with the meal and I had never been so turned on in all my life. My hand was rubbing hard, squeezing, and pulling, and I didn't care that I had no lube and that I was chafing. Her meal was progressing so slowly that I feared I may not be able to hold my cum till she was done. Already the precum was showing and I was thrashing away. But either my perception of time changed or she began to work faster. I was coming and she was up to the knees of baby and I had a huge amount of spunk to milk out and she was eating faster and faster. I was stroking my semi-hard shaft as I watched the lump in her throat that was the infant's feet disappear into her bloated torso. She reached up to push her jaw back into place. I pulled out a napkin that I had gotten with my coffee. I used it to wipe up the thick semen as best I could. Then I put the coarse, sticky paper in the empty coffee cup. I eased my genitals back into my pants and closed my fly. The lump was settling into the woman's stomach and her face had returned to normal proportions with very loose skin when I next glanced over. She collected her belongings into the baby bag and stood up. She walked over to me and pulled out a box of Djarums. She held out one. I looked at it a moment. I collected my garbage, stood and took the offered cigarette. Together we walked silently to the far exit of the car. She took a cigarette for herself. In the vestibule between the cars she offered me a light and then lit up herself. In silence we waited in the noisy cubicle as the train slowed for the approach to Jamaica station. She finished her cigarette first and tossed it out on the tracks. There was one last movement in her stomach that I saw. I stubbed out the cigarette and put the butt in the coffee cup. We pulled into the station. "I'm taking the E train," she told me. "I'm transferring to go into Woodside," I told her. The doors opened. We stepped out. She leaned over and gave me a brief kiss on the lips. I hugged her. She turned and walked down the platform to the exit to the subways. I tossed out the coffee cup and crossed the platform to board the waiting train.

Re:This reminds me of something that happened to m (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141531)

Oh my God, that is the most f*cked up porn story I have ever read on this site. You need some serious therapy.

Yup.... (1)

gatesh8r (182908) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141504)

Must of been a supernova that caused CNN, AOL-TW, M$, the MPAA...

Oh ya (1)

abolith (204863) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141527)

like a new supernova is the ever-present worry on my mind.....

That's Reassuring (2)

MadCamel (193459) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141566)

"The next expected supernova..."
You can expect these things?

Eighty-fourth Post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141573)

Yea, baby, yea!!!!! The big 84!

Errors (2)

xX_sticky_Xx (526967) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141599)

This is what happens when you get science news from CNN. Antares IS NOT 500,000 ly away; it is 600 ly away. Big difference. As well, one cannot say that it is the "next expected supernova". It's a good candidate but so is Betelgeuse for that matter. Eta Carinae is much mre likely to go supernova than either of them.

But what about the Galactic Core Explosions??? (0)

Electronic_castaway (531006) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141606)

Has the suns in the Galactic core start to supernova they will cause a chain reaction of explosions to send great amounts on radiation at light speed shooting toward the our homes.

We need to get the hell off this planet before the radiations from those chain reaction novas burn the life from all the planets.

It's time that we are fleeing those explosions of the Galactic Core which will, in several million years, make known space uninhabitable. wn_in_flames.html []

It could have been a good thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3141640)

I think it could have aided life on earth by increasing the mutation rate. [] (3, Informative)

StarTux (230379) | more than 12 years ago | (#3141671)

best place to lay any media inaccuracies to rest.

here it is again,

Although no-one has mentioned it on there bulletin board yet. Real astronomers visit this board, indeed a real one runs it.

Load More Comments