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Alternatives... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3224846)


Re:Alternatives... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3224872)

Err, I meant "Kuro5hin"... and it's dot org. I was in a rush for the first. :)

Heres another good one. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3224906)

Alternates: [iraqis.org]


Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3224978)

You read the title, don't click that link unless you don't value your eyesight.

Speaking of alternatives...let's talk about OS's.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3225190)

There are those folks who exist that are simply too stupid to run a Unix-like operating system. You know who they are; in fact, many of them frequent this very site with their IE browsers and MSN Messenger rip-offs of applications that were too innovative for Microsoft to come up with themselves even though they spend more money on R&D than any other company in the history of the world.

My friends, co-workers, and I refer to these individuals as people with TSTR*, or Too Stupid To Run *nix syndrome.

Do YOU know anyone suffering from this? If so, please make a note of it and remind them of their simple minds whenever they mumble some "*nix isn't ready for the desk top" while you're using KDE 3 and Evolution, which are a superior desktop environment and mail client, respectively.

Re:Alternatives... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3225207)

Oh, god. Damn you to hell for posting a link to everything2.com in a first post on a slashdot article!!!! Now e2 will never be the same. nooooooo!

Calling Joel Hodgson (4, Interesting)

bandix (184495) | about 12 years ago | (#3224857)

This sounds like the killer app for DVD. The original and the MST3K audio track on the same disc.

Re:Calling Joel Hodgson (2)

Telastyn (206146) | about 12 years ago | (#3224903)

Better yet, they could collect the most amusing user-submitted MST3K-izations and release them as an add-on. Each submitter could get $$$ and fame.

Re:Calling Joel Hodgson (1)

binarytoaster (174681) | about 12 years ago | (#3225054)

Or combine them, everyone adding something... And the cast of MST3k would be some 100 :P

I'd actually pay for a DVD then... rather than Netflix'ing them...

Re:Calling Joel Hodgson (1)

56ker (566853) | about 12 years ago | (#3225066)

Sorry to (probably) seem extremely dense but what does MST3k mean?

Re:Calling Joel Hodgson (3, Informative)

Sloppy (14984) | about 12 years ago | (#3225331)

MST3k means "Mystery Science Theater 3000". It was a television show where a bad movie was shown in the background, and in the foreground there was a shadow of some recurring characters (Joel/Mike, Crow, Tom Servo) so that it looked like the recurring characters were watching the movie inside a theater. The recurring characters heckled the movie. (It was a lot funnier than it sounds.)

Re:Calling Joel Hodgson (4, Informative)

poot_rootbeer (188613) | about 12 years ago | (#3225027)

The latest batch of MST3K DVDs to have been released have this feature. Or rather, they're double-sided DVD's with the original cut of the movie on one side and the MiSTed cut on the other.

but which one is most aclaimed? (1)

mestar (121800) | about 12 years ago | (#3224859)

groundhog day is the only track.

but it is also the most aclaimed one... and most active! :)

Good for REAL movie critics (2, Interesting)

sjorgnsn (514708) | about 12 years ago | (#3224864)

It seems to me that the movie critic industry is all cynical - or all senial. I've learned not to pay attention to reviews and criticism's just because movies that get crappy ratings always turn out ok or good, and movies with GREAT reviews most often turn out to be boring. Movie reviews from movie buffs rather than people getting paid to say what they think about how good the "acting, filming, angles" are, will be a welcome change.

Critics should not have a unquestioning audience (4, Interesting)

ackthpt (218170) | about 12 years ago | (#3225177)

This is the simple practice I have for seeking critical advice on films:

Read a few reviews

Note who wrote them and what they had to say

See the movies, and then reconcile which critic(s) you most often agree with

Look for their review when you're planning how to spend your disposable income

Update list as necessary

I've noticed some reviewers are excellent for films targeted at 18-30 year old, who are completely out of it when reviewing something like A Bugs Life. Keep tabs on where their opinions are off base and on target. Disappointingly many have forgotten what it was like to be young.

No one will take the time... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3224865)

to listen to this sort of thing. Except for the poster, maybe his girlfriend. (If he has one, a seemingly rare occurance here.)


Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3224869)

i always wanted a copy of wizard of oz with dark side of the moon properly synced

Any software to support this? (2)

Ryu2 (89645) | about 12 years ago | (#3224875)

Any DVD player app that can play such a custom audio track instead of the DVD audio? Playing it with a separate app seems cheezy.

Re:Any software to support this? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3224920)

Mplayer for *nix does this.

It lets you sink anything from an mp3, ac3, or raw wav file i think.You can even adjust the delay timing to get it right. It also pauses like normal.

Just imagine... (1)

56ker (566853) | about 12 years ago | (#3224879)

now you could put your own amusing soundtracks to films! Any funny suggestions anyone?

Re:Just imagine... (1)

JonWan (456212) | about 12 years ago | (#3224902)

How about one of Jack "boot" Valenti's speeches.

I wonder how long it will be until the MPAA throws a shit fit?

Wizard of OZ (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3224882)

Does this mean I can finally get my DVD copy of the Wizard of OZ with Dark Side of the Moon already queued up ?!?

Wizard of oz (1)

Kizzle (555439) | about 12 years ago | (#3224883)

I think it would be cool to make a version of the wizard of oz with the "Dark side of the moon" cd as background music (remember how that cd is supposed to go allong with the movie).

Re:Wizard of oz (1)

broller (74249) | about 12 years ago | (#3224946)

About a year ago I saw The Wizard of Oz on DirecTv (I think it was AMC) with the Dark Side of the Moon as the alternate audio broadcast. It was a great idea and shows that, if this becomes popular, you might see it on something like HBO in the future.

Anyone else ever hear of a cool alternate audio broadcast?

Re:Wizard of oz (1)

sulli (195030) | about 12 years ago | (#3224975)

Someone could decss it and then switch the audio tracks. Fair Use Guy would be proud!

Re:Wizard of oz (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3225421)

they already have, and you can download it from your favorite P2P app, i have.

on a side note, it's not worth it.

on another side note, i own wizard of oz, and dark side of the moon, so na-na-na im not a pirate

One big, whompin' track? (2)

JamesOfTheDesert (188356) | about 12 years ago | (#3224885)

Interesting idea, but, unlike a sync'ed DVD track, it seems it would be hard to skip ahead if you get bored with an alternative track that's in a single big MP3.

Are there ways to bookmark sections in Mp3's to allow jumping to fixed locations in the track? Then you could jump to specific chapters.

Re:One big, whompin' track? (2)

ImaLamer (260199) | about 12 years ago | (#3225286)

I think the idea would be to create new DVD's and release the image file on the underground or for the smart people give us mp3 files.

This way you burn a legal copy - keep your original safe - and watch your new commentary either in your Component DVD player [given it can read your discs] or your PC.

If making DVD discs you could make another track - but if you like VCD as I do [runs almost everywhere] you could just make a 60 cent two disc set. I know of many free programs that will put an mp3 to an mpeg - hell you could even make a MPEG-2 with some.

Seems pretty easy, I've had a great idea about The Matrix but I won't say it here.....

Re:One big, whompin' track? (1)

iluvpr0n (306594) | about 12 years ago | (#3225323)

the mp3cue plugin [guerillasoft.com] does just that. you can make a .cue file when ripping a cd to create 1 continuous mp3 (so no glitches arise between tracks when listening), but with the plugin it lists the separate tracks and you can skip ahead to them if you'd like..i'd imagine you could do something similar with this movie track idea..


Groundhog Day (3, Insightful)

ackthpt (218170) | about 12 years ago | (#3224892)

...I got you babe...

I swear, if I got up every morning to that tune on the radio, I'd drop a toaster into my bathtub, too.

I can't quite figure out how or why I'd want to do my own soundtrack for a movie. Seems there's plenty I like the sound to just fine, and those that I don't, eh... I'm not sure I'm cut out for the MST3K line of work.

"Together I shall rule the world!" -- Tom Servo

Now I do have a lot of experience with running the play-by-play from the radio instead of from the TV during sports broadcasts. :-)

Bandwidth issues (3, Insightful)

e1en0r (529063) | about 12 years ago | (#3224905)

I thought about starting a similar site a few months ago, but I think in the end there will be too many bandwidth issues. I would guess the same will go for this site too. The "Groundhog Day" track is 17MB and I'm sure everything else will be pretty big too. Unless they get some kind of revenue source I think they'll have a hard time. And although this sounds like it would be a great thing for the movie industry to get behind, I'm sure they think it'll hurt their profits or infringe on their copyrights (they'll try to find a way) in some way and won't support it. A better idea might be something like Audiogalaxy (minus the spyware).

Re: Bandwidth issues (2, Informative)

e1en0r (529063) | about 12 years ago | (#3225056)

Hmmm. After further investigation it appears that the tracks are hosted elsewhere and you upload them to your server and just link to them. Better for the dude that runs the site, but unfortunately that type of setup usually ends up in a high percentage of broken links. I'll cross my fingers and hope it works though. It's a promising idea.

Re:Bandwidth issues (2)

liquidsin (398151) | about 12 years ago | (#3225211)

I don't suppose that his site getting linked from the front page of slashdot will do anything to help his bandwidth problems...

it's sad that... (0)

IronTek (153138) | about 12 years ago | (#3224910)

I think it's sad that the MPAA is such a monster as to even make Roger Ebert say, both in the article as well as the sample commentary, that this *probably* doesn't violate copyrights...

...it would never occur to me that it would, but as a cynical guy, I wouldn't be surprised if the MPAA got upset with people doing this...I'm sure Mr. Ebert had a similar frame of mind when he wrote the article...

...quite a shame.

Use Movies to Learn a Foreign Language (1)

GNU Zealot (442308) | about 12 years ago | (#3224913)

I've always thought that watching movies would be a great way to learn foreign languages. But of course not those cheesy ones that they make you watch in school. I mean real movies that you'd probably watch anyways.

Picture this:
The audio of the movie you're watching is in the foriegn language that you'd like to learn. This would help you get a feel for the pronounciation of words. The subtitles of the movie would display not only the text for the audio (the foreign language), but also your native language so that you know what's going on. This would help you also learn the spelling of words being used.

Although the technology described wouldn't exactly enable this, it's a step towards it and I think it'd be a very cool thing to have. It wouldn't be that hard for DVD companies to implement it.

Better solution (1)

fdsa (78632) | about 12 years ago | (#3225026)

Just watch a film made in the language you're learning. Duh.

Re subtitles: They are probably already available in both languages, so all you need to do if you really want both simultaneously is to modify a DVD player to show two sets of subtitles. Not a big problem, if the source code is available.

Not A Good Idea (2)

EXTomar (78739) | about 12 years ago | (#3225093)

Just what we need...people trying to learn English from what? Star Trek: TNG? Star Wars? The Matrix?!

There is no substitute for structured classes and learning the formal parts of any language. Watching movies and reading newpapers can help suplement language learning but one should never base learning around "pop culture". There are too many slangs and reagonal things to be really useful for general communication.

Re:Not A Good Idea (1)

germanbirdman (159018) | about 12 years ago | (#3225428)

I grew up in the UK and also went to school there till I was 13, after that I went to school in Germany.

I know quite a few people that learnt English from Star Trek: TNG. Star Trek is actually good for learning English because the sentences are spoken slowly and clearly unlike in some other films or series.

The problem was that it is quite difficult in Germany to watch a series like Star Trek in English. Until this weekend it was legal to hack a satellite tv broadcasting station if that station did not sell subscribtions to your country.

So when I was still in school (9 years ago) we and a couple of my friends had a hacked smart card to receive the UK satellite TV stations. I know quite a few people that bought a decoder + hacked smart card just to watch ST:TNG and learn English.

Unfortuneately since Sky introduced their 0x0A smartcards Sky was never hacked again. This must be 7 or 8 years ago now.

Now DVDs have solved the problem of watching stuff in English. Every DVD (that was filmed in an ENglish speaking country) you can buy contains an English soundtrack. Some of these DVDs though force you to have German subtitles when watching the DVD with the ENglish soundtrack and you can't imagine how annoying it is seeing the film in one language and having subtitles in another. Luckily hacks exist for DVD players to remove user prohibitions.

The ENglish soundtrack is one of the major reasons why I buy so many DVDs because I am sick and tired of listening to the film in German. Sometimes you watch a movie and gain $$$ in the process: You order a DVD from DVD box office with free shipping, watch the movie and sell it again. SOmetimes movies can be sold for higher prices (used) than it cost to get the DVD new from DVD box office. I'll never understand why. This was especially true when ebay.de still allowed you to sell Region 1 DVDs.

Region codes are not a problem. Most DVD players are hackable or are already sold already hacked.

Cinemawise all films are in German, but some cinemas have one single screening of one film a week in the original language. Seldom though.

Having a film dubbed is better though than what some other countries do: Poland - here the film with the english track is audible - but very silent, but on top of this someone (a single person) is constantly translating what the people are saying. The difference in volume is so great that you cannot hear the background English when the translator is speaking. I don't understand Polish, but I think this is a very stupid way of doing things.

The Dutch, Danes and Swedish (probably over Scandinavien countries too) just show the movies in the original language and have subtitles. This is the reason why in the Netherlands everyone understands English and I mean everyone. In Germany, most people will understand you if you speak slowly because everybody learnt it at school sometime, but the older the people you are talking to and the less paid the profession, the less likely it is they understand you (and the lesser they get paid the less likely it is that they even speak German nowerdays). Depends on the job though, a programmer always understands English, so will any manager and the like.

Off topic: Since I'll maybe be moving to the US to work there at the end of the year, is it easy to get a DVD player that plays region 2 PAL DVDs on an NTSC TV? Region free of course? I don't want to throw away all my R2 DVDs.

I Really Liked Groundhog Day (1)

stoolpigeon (454276) | about 12 years ago | (#3224914)

It was pretty good.

This doesn't seem like that cool of a thing as far as technology goes. I mean- you certainly don't need a dvd to do this.

Just record your thoughts watching a movie and have someone kick off the audio when the video tape gets to the start of the film. I know that dvd makes it a little easier to sync up audio and video- but it certainly isn't necessary.

In fact- if you want to go w/all tape, record your commentary on a couple audio cassettes (remember to warn the viewer to pause the VCR before they have to switch tapes.) Now even the most technologically underpriveleged can enjoy custom commentary.

Maybe I'll have friends over an we will do a live 'improv' movie commentary party!

Oh yeah, we've been doing that for years already. But it will be cooler now that it is official.


2002 Darwin Award Winners (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3224915)


1. In September in Detroit, a 41-year-old man got stuck and drowned in two feet of water after squeezing head first through an 18-inch-wide sewer grate to retrieve his car keys.

2. In October, a 49-year-old San Francisco stockbroker, who "totally zoned when he ran," according to his wife, accidentally jogged off a 100-foot-high cliff on his daily run.

3. Buxton, NC: A man died on a beach when an 8-foot-deep hole he had dug into the sand caved in as he sat inside it. Beach goers said Daniel Jones, 21, dug the hole for fun, or protection from the wind, and had been sitting in a beach chair at the bottom Thursday afternoon when it collapsed, burying him
beneath 5 feet of sand. People on the beach, on the outer banks, used their hands and shovels, trying to claw their way to Jones, a resident of Woodbridge, VA, but could not reach him. It took rescue workers using heavy equipment almost an hour to free him while about 200 people looked on. Jones was pronounced dead at a hospital.

4. In February, Santiago Alvarado, 24, was killed in Lompoc, CA, as he fell face-first through the ceiling of bicycle shop he was burglarizing. Death was caused when the long flashlight he had placed in his mouth (to keep his hands free) rammed into the base of his skull as he hit the floor.

5. According to police in Dahlonega, GA, ROTC cadet Nick Berrena, 20, was stabbed to death in January by fellow cadet Jeffrey Hoffman, 23, who was trying to prove that a knife could not penetrate the flak vest Berrena was wearing.

6. Sylvester Briddell, Jr, 26, was killed in February in Selbyville, Del, as he won a bet with friends who said he would not put a revolver loaded with four bullets into his mouth and pull the trigger.

7. In February, according to police in Windsor, Ontario, Daniel Kolta, 27, and Randy Taylor, 33, died in a head-on collision, thus earning a tie in the game of chicken they were playing with their snowmobiles.


1. In Guthrie, Okla, in October, Jason Heck tried to kill a millipede with a shot from his 22 calibre rifle, but the bullet ricocheted off a rock near the hole and hit pal Antonio Martinez in the head, fracturing his skull.

2. In Elyria, Ohio, in October, Martyn Eskins, attempting to clean out cobwebs in his basement, declined to use a broom in favor of a propane torch and caused a fire that burned the first and second floors of his house.

3. Paul Stiller, 47, was hospitalized in Andover Township, NJ, in
September, and his wife Bonnie was also injured, by a quarter-stick of dynamite that blew up in their car. While driving around at 2 AM, the bored couple lit the dynamite and tried to toss it out the window to see what would happen, but they apparently failed to notice that the window was closed.


TACOMA, WA - Kerry Bingham, had been drinking with several friends when one of them said they knew a person who had bungee-jumped from the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in the middle of traffic. The conversation grew more heated and at least 10 men trooped along the walkway of the bridge at 4:30 am. Upon arrival at the midpoint of the bridge they discovered that no one had
brought a bungee rope. Bingham, who had continued drinking, volunteered and pointed out that a coil of lineman's cable lay nearby. One end of the cable was secured around Bingham's leg and the other end was tied to the bridge. His fall lasted 40 feet before the cable tightened and tore his foot off at the ankle. He miraculously survived his fall into the icy river water and was rescued by two nearby fishermen. "All I can say," said Bingham, "is that God was watching out for me on that night. There's just no other explanation for it." Bingham's foot was never located.


PADERBORN, GERMANY - Overzealous zookeeper Friedrich Riesfeldt fed his constipated elephant Stefan 22 doses of animal laxative and more than a bushel of berries, figs and prunes before the plugged-up pachyderm finally let fly-and suffocated the keeper under 200 pounds of poop! Investigators say ill-fated Friedrich, 46, was attempting to give the ailing elephant an olive oil enema when the relieved beast unloaded on him like a dump truck full of mud. "The sheer force of the elephant's unexpected defecation knocked Mr. Riesfeldt to the ground, where he struck his head on a rock and lay unconscious as the elephant continued to evacuate his bowels on top of him," said flabbergasted Paderborn police detective Erik Dern. "With no one
there to help him, he lay under all that dung for at least an hour before a watchman came along, and during that time he suffocated. "It seems to be just one of those freak accidents that happened.

Re:2002 Darwin Award Winners (-1)

IAgreeWithThisPost (550896) | about 12 years ago | (#3225063)

"It seems to be just one of those freak accidents that happened

Yeah i hate those freak accidents that happen..especially those involving elephant shit.

Even better, the guy that dug the sand pit. How did he expect to climb out of an 8 foot deep sand pit? genius.

Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back (4, Interesting)

MrP- (45616) | about 12 years ago | (#3224922)

Obviously Ebert hasn't seen the Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back DVD. The DVD-ROM has a feature that lets you make your own commentary. It only allows you to make commentary on 1 scene, not the whole DVD. But when you're done it uploads it to the miramax servers and I guess anyone can listen to it. I was going to do it but Miramax says they own the commentary you submit and can use it for anything they want, so maybe this DVD Tracks site is a better idea.

African Youth Having Sex With Goats (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3224927)

African youth having sex with goats to avoid AIDS!! Click here [worldonline.co.za]

MOD PARENT UP!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3224981)


Market? (1)

BlueOtto (519047) | about 12 years ago | (#3224935)

Who's going to listen to a stranger commentate in the background of a movie? I'd rather just see the movie, not hear commentary (especially not 'off-the-cuff').

Spoofs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3224938)

I'd love to hear alternate dialogs in stupid movies. That's a game I often played with my brother, setting TV sound to zero, and inveting the whole plot of a dumb sunday night movie...

Re:Spoofs (1)

Falcula (20022) | about 12 years ago | (#3225208)

Woody Allen took a japanese spy movie and redid the audio so that the dialogue actually looked like what the peoples lips were saying. The movie is called "What's Up Pussycat" and revolves around a spy faction trying to come up with the best recipie for chicken salad.

I know...chicken salad, but that's what it looked like they were saying. I really loved it and can't wait for it to come out on DVD...

I should make my own site... (0, Offtopic)

IIOIOOIOO (517375) | about 12 years ago | (#3224942)

Then submit a post to Slashdot about this new sweet site with a burgeoning community... Voila! Instant eyeballs! I mean, it clearly worked for this guy. Perhaps I'll seed mine with the first 3 lines of an Office replacement app... let Slashdot take care of the rest.

Average track (5, Funny)

NiftyNews (537829) | about 12 years ago | (#3224947)

"Hey and welcome to the movie. Man, this is cool. Oh hey, anyway, this is Brian Chamberlake III and we're going to watch Tank Girl together. [40 second gap]. Here come the credits. [50 second gap]. Alright...Hey Jim, get me some popcorn! [2 hour gap, end]."

Total Downloads of this clip: 3

Re:Average track (1)

nucal (561664) | about 12 years ago | (#3225084)

I started working on this track, but the phone rang at the beginning of chapter 23. I was expecting a call, so I shouldn't have started. I'll finish the movie soon.

You weren't that far off!

Re:Average track (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3225232)

There are those folks who exist that are simply too stupid to run a Unix-like operating system. You know who they are; in fact, many of them frequent this very site with their IE browsers and MSN Messenger rip-offs of applications that were too innovative for Microsoft to come up with themselves even though they spend more money on R&D than any other company in the history of the world.

My friends, co-workers, and I refer to these individuals as people with TSTR*, or Too Stupid To Run *nix syndrome.

Do YOU know anyone suffering from this? If so, please make a note of it and remind them of their simple minds whenever they mumble some "*nix isn't ready for the desk top" while you're using KDE 3 and Evolution, which are a superior desktop environment and mail client, respectively.

Do it with quicktime (1)

nullard (541520) | about 12 years ago | (#3224962)

You should be able to rip the DVD to MPEG and open it in the OLD QuickTime Player 2.5. It came with editing plugins (on the cd) that let you edit tracks. The trick is that the old version lets you play with tracks and save to different formats for free -- it came out before the whole QuickTime Pro joke started. Sure the files are a few gigs, but hey, it's worth it just to have a homebrew MST3K version of "The Net"

Grow up and stop "Warezing" (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3224963)

This is illegal, and more importantly, it is just wrong.

When you "free software/moviez/gamez" kiddies grow up, you will realize that many hard-working professionals depend on the royalties they get from the sales of DVD's. They use this money to put food on the table for their loved ones.

Software is NOT free. And Modifying DVD's is just like putting a book under your shirt and walking out the store. How many of you would do that?

Grow up.

Re:Grow up and stop "Warezing" (1)

Ruliz Galaxor (568498) | about 12 years ago | (#3225019)

you see it the wrong way

its like copying the book and walking away with it... thats the whole difference with copying.
Secondly, not everyone who copies DVD's or software would have bought it, if they had the option between 'buying' or 'leaving'.

Re:Grow up and stop "Warezing" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3225043)

You can justify it to yourself any way that you want, but we both you know that you are a liar and a thief.

Re:Grow up and stop "Warezing" (1)

Ruliz Galaxor (568498) | about 12 years ago | (#3225051)

Maybe I am...
but do you think I (and many others with me) care? guess what... we don't.

Re:Grow up and stop "Warezing" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3225100)

You will care when you are rotting in jail, getting asspounded by the local gorillas.

Re:Grow up and stop "Warezing" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3225218)

I'm sure that's a nice fantasy for you, man, but it doesn't work that way. The distros get busted, to be sure, but leeches go on and on and on and on...

Does it bother you that I have all the software you only wish you could have, all the music, and all the movies I could ever want?

Well, that's life. Anyhoo, the born-rich have had this advantage for ages. Part of the real issue here, I suspect, is one of class boundaries. It really peeves off some people to see everyone, regardless of social status, being able to get whatever the hell they want. If only we had matter copiers...

Re:Grow up and stop "Warezing" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3225241)

> This is illegal, and more importantly, it is just wrong.

It is illegal by law in most countries, but "wrong" is your personal opinion. In my opinion the only reason it is wrong is because it is against the law.

> When you "free software/moviez/gamez" kiddies grow up, you will realize that many hard-working professionals depend on the royalties they get from the sales of DVD's. They use this money to put food on the table for their loved ones.

They feed upon an artificial value created by the monopolies IP gives them.
The value of copies exist only because copyright holders can use their monopolies to create a lack of copies in the market.

> Software is NOT free.

Some software is free.

> And Modifying DVD's is just like putting a book under your shirt and walking out the store.

Modification is different than copying. And copying is very different from stealing. If you steal a book in the bookshop, the bookshop owns a book less, but if you take a copy of a CD in a recordshop, the recordshop still owns the same number of CDs - no property loss.

Re:Grow up and stop "Warezing" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3225266)

Like I told the other guy : You can justify it to yourself any way that you want, but we both you know that you are a liar and a thief.

Poor, poor Patrick.... (3, Funny)

NOT-2-QUICK (114909) | about 12 years ago | (#3224977)

I don't personally know whom the site proprietor, Patrick [dvdtracks.com] , is or anything, but for his little site's sake I really hope that this article is either regarded as disinteresting by the masses of /. or that his ISP is in for one hell of a shock...

While this IS certainly an interesting idea and possibly even worth an article on Slashdot, his content is a bit thin and I have his usual site traffic is basicly not existant....until NOW that is!!!

So anyways...Pat, if you are reading this...good luck and I hope you are being charged for bandwidth by the Mb!!! Of course, you could always take a page from this guy [slashdot.org] and ask that the Slashdot community reimburse you...

News? (1)

anon757 (265661) | about 12 years ago | (#3225007)

This is news? a web site with one MP3 on it? It's not even a alternate audio track about the movie, it's more like a directors commentary. I guess I can kiss my Karma goodbye, but has anyone else noticed Slashdot is _really_ stretching for stories lately?

Re:News? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3225219)

Not to be a whiner, but I think the new .eu TLD [cnn.com] is better news than a site with very very little content. Oh... wait. THAT story was REJECTED.

Hrm. (2)

autopr0n (534291) | about 12 years ago | (#3225014)

I registered fancommentaries.org after I read the artical (a long time ago). I was going to setup scoop on it, but I didn't have enough time. Oh well.

Re:Hrm. (1)

$carab (464226) | about 12 years ago | (#3225120)

Gee...I don't think you'd need much content ... I mean, look at this guy with ONE (!!!) track? Hope he's paying by the Mb to show how much the /. community cares...I really wish the admins would take a better look at these sites before they post them, I mean, a site posted to /. must either not care about the increased traffic (Cnet or nytimes, for example), or be really interesting, like the World programming championship results. They really shouldn't be fledgling sites looking to desperately hook a readership. I mean, link to the article if you want and ask a question about it, but don't post a site that has virtually NO content.

The idea doesn't really sound too good, either. I don't play CS with the voice feature enabled for the same reason I will never listen to one of these DVDs...I don't wanna hear some loser talking about whatever, when I could hear and see quality audio and video. I mean, after a while you'll either get people with well-reasoned opinions (small percentage of community), and the great deal of the community that bashes everything and yells expletives into their microphones. Actually, that kinda sounds like /.

Deja vous? (1)

Dr Caleb (121505) | about 12 years ago | (#3225032)

I swear I've read this story before, but I can't figure out where...

Re:Deja vous? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3225114)

It's "déjà vu", fucknut.

*groan* (0, Troll)

CathedralRulz (566696) | about 12 years ago | (#3225040)

Taste in movies is completely subjective. I never listen to reviews - I judge whether I want to see a movie based purely on the poster. And I'm never disappointed.

So if I don't care what a professional critic thinks, why would I care what some loser living with his mom who can't grow facial hair and works at Blockbuster while taking classes at the Learning Annex on the side thinks about "Beautiful Mind?"

Another example of the man... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3225045)

trying to keep the brother down:

HP Advert here on Slashdot shows a White Man playing basketball against a Black Man. White Man has the word Firewall written on his back. Black Man is cleary being repressed here. Obviously an underhanded statement that having a Firewall will keep the Black Man out of your White Neighborhood. Terrible. I am ashamed of slashdot and HP.

Re:Another example of the man... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3225161)

echo $BULLSH\!T | sed s/man/hat/

Will copyright lawyers squish this? (4, Interesting)

Dr.Dubious DDQ (11968) | about 12 years ago | (#3225064)

I hope not. It just occurs to me that this might be a "derivative work" according to the MPAA...

I think most of us rational people realize that "alternate soundtracks" are perfectly harmless if not actually helpful to the bottom line of companies whose DVDs are getting alternate tracks made for them, but I think most of us recognize just how rational the MPAA is...

If they do attack this, at least the the "squashing of free speech" aspect of their current campaigns will be more blatant (if such a thing is possible), and if they DON'T, then we'll have another legitimate reason for 'fair-use' space-shifted copies of DVD movies (to make SVCD's with the alternate soundtracks for personal use on our standalone players, of course.)

Fair Use (2)

EXTomar (78739) | about 12 years ago | (#3225112)

Aren't talking about things you like/dislike, scenes, and giving your insight into movies you watch the very thing the Fair Use clause in copyright law supposed to protect? Isn't this then the very essense of this idea?

After all the alternate audio commentaries are somewhat meaningless unless you have the video to go along with it.

Re:Fair Use (1)

sacrilicious (316896) | about 12 years ago | (#3225194)

Another possibility is that parodies are explicitly provided for in copyright law. All someone has to do to make their track legit is style it like a parody (laugh every few seconds, distort things comically in the commentary, etc).

My alternate music for the matrix (-1)

IAgreeWithThisPost (550896) | about 12 years ago | (#3225111)

that's right, expect my forthcoming alternate soundtrack for the matrix on the site soon. I am replacing the cheesy euro techno trash with country.

This sounds cool but... (3, Insightful)

jhaberman (246905) | about 12 years ago | (#3225134)

I have to think... Why would I want to do this? I mean, the reason I listen to the comentary tracks on my DVD's is because they usually are done by someone who had a hand in making the movie (Actors, directors, editors, etc.) See, I want interesting behind the scenes info about that day's shot, how bad the situation was, what they were going for... things they tried to do but didn't work... etc. etc. etc.

I definitely don't want a review of the movie while I'm watching it by some schlub who has no more insight than I do. I can take care of that for myself, thank you very much.

Maybe that's just me, tho...


Re:This sounds cool but... (1)

rtstyk (545241) | about 12 years ago | (#3225199)

This is ridicoulus. I'm listening to that guy and he's just talking about his cuff for ten minutes now...


This would make sense if maybe more people actually got together and prepared a script that would be worth listening to rather than a guy who constantly talks about his cuff and some town he isn't even sure of whether it's on this planet...

I could see how that would make sense if some fans got few heads together to produce a track for their favorite movie. Like a track for Star Wars movie where they would talk about all the cameos and other interesting stuff.


Re:This sounds cool but... (5, Interesting)

Jonathan (5011) | about 12 years ago | (#3225342)

Well, perhaps the best commentary track I've heard is Roger Ebert's "Dark City" commentary. It is far more interesting than the director's commentary track (also on the DVD). Commentaries can be genuine film scholarship -- they don't just have to be random trivia about making a movie. After listening to the commentary, I felt as if I've attended a film school lecture.

On the other hand, Joe Blow is not going to have the knowledge of both film and literature that Roger Ebert has, so maybe amateur commentaries aren't a great idea.

Groundhog Day commentary (4, Funny)

svferris (519966) | about 12 years ago | (#3225160)

I imagine the Groundhog Day commentary would go something like this:

"Hi this is Pat and welcome to my commentary on Groundhog Day. The movie stars Bill Murray..."

*five minutes later*

"Hi this is Pat and welcome to my commentary on Groundhog Day. The movie stars Bill Murray..."

Groundhog Day commentary (5, Funny)

svferris (519966) | about 12 years ago | (#3225180)

I imagine the Groundhog Day commentary would go something like this:

"Hi this is Pat and welcome to my commentary on Groundhog Day. The movie stars Bill Murray..."

*five minutes later*

"Hi this is Pat and welcome to my commentary on Groundhog Day. The movie stars Bill Murray..." .

Great. (2)

Sax Maniac (88550) | about 12 years ago | (#3225172)

You, Too, Can Be Slashdotted!

Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d'
Type mismatch: 'CInt'
E:\INETPUB\WEBSITES\YIL\COLUMNS\../ssi/ssi ASP.asp, line 83

I think the only alternate movie soundtrack I'd care to listen is would be Filthy's [bigempire.com] take on it.

Fractured Flickers (1)

John Jorsett (171560) | about 12 years ago | (#3225204)

One of my favorite TV shows waaay waaay back was Fractured Flickers. It took old silent movies and added a humorous sound track. Same principle as Woody Allen's "What's Up Tiger Lily?" I'd like to see this DVD track stuff applied that way. Properly done, it's hilarious.

Pink Floyd @ Wizard of Oz (3, Interesting)

felipeal (177452) | about 12 years ago | (#3225258)

This schema would allow The Dark Side of the Moon as an alternative soundtrack for [ingsoc.com]
The Wizard of Oz.

Re:Pink Floyd @ Wizard of Oz (1)

MrP- (45616) | about 12 years ago | (#3225402)

theres already mpegs of wizard of oz with the dark side of the moon as the audio track. For years I read about this, and when I actually saw it, I wasn't impressed. :/

Everything Old is New Again. (3, Funny)

vitaflo (20507) | about 12 years ago | (#3225274)

My friends and I used to do this when we were kids. I had a friend bring over an extra VCR and a copy of Star Wars. We'd put the video feed out from the VHS my friend had to the BETA my parents had (yes we had BETA back then), and for the audio we'd use a microphone my parent owned and would rig it up to the sound in to the BETA.

Then we'd just play the movie on the VHS, and record it on the BETA, and adlib voices over the top of it. Sometimes it was lame, but a lot of times it was absolutely hilarious, especially when we had a really good exchange that just came off the top of our head, and synced w/ the actors well.

Darth Vadar saying "Once you go black, you never go back" when he points and Leia and calls her a traitor has never been so funny. ;)

DMCA Alert (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3225388)

I smell a lot of lawsuits here. Parody? No, that died along with irony.

Roll your own- (2, Interesting)

Mu*puppy (464254) | about 12 years ago | (#3225398)

MST3K commentary! Also, fandubbing my own anime comes to mind more and more...

This -does- make me wonder, though, if/when our friends in the MPAA would do something about this, trying to blur what defines a 'derivative work'. Look up 'The Wind Done Gone' sometime, a parody of 'Gone With the Wind' that re-tells the story from a different viewpoint. The Margaret Mitchell estate tried to sue the author, but fortunately was unsuccessful with the attempt. Still though, were truly big media to flex political muscle/money, who knows what they can do. After all, look at the DMCA and CBDTPA...

"Carpe vitam globis!"

This could be absolutely awesome (3, Interesting)

Flounder (42112) | about 12 years ago | (#3225440)

Ordinary fan commentaries would probably be alot of "OH, THIS SCENE IS AWESOME, WATCH FOR TRINITY'S NIPPLE!"

However, I like E-bert's idea. What if you were involved in the movie, and had a particular viewpoint. I had a friend that works for Paramount, and is involved behind the scenes with Star Trek, especially the movies. And he's got stories and behind the scenes insights that would blow your mind. Watched The Wrath of Khan with him and it completely changed my impression of that movie.

Having an expert commentary about a movie based on particular subject matter would be also very worth it. My grandfather was in the first wave at Utah Beach and definitely has alot to say about Saving Pvt Ryan.

Now, if you can have a program to sync the commentary to the PC DVD player, then it'll be the killer app for PC DVD.

Would be nice to see used for localisation (2)

horza (87255) | about 12 years ago | (#3225463)

There is a big conspiracy out there. Go into any DVD store or rental and see how many have soundtracks or even *subtitles* in French. I went into a few to find a film for my French girlfriend and I to watch and came out with ZERO. Plenty of less widespread language such as Finnish, but nothing for the 10th most spoken [soyouwanna.com] language in the world. Now I know all these films are dubbed for French cinema. It would be great if the dubbed tracks could be released so that we can watch films in many different languages.

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