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Yahoo Knows Best, Resets Users' Marketing Prefs

CmdrTaco posted more than 12 years ago | from the how-thoughtful-of-them dept.

Spam 516

Anonymous Coward writes ""Yahoo is pulling a good one on everyone. As a matter of some changes on their system, they have kindly reset everyone's marketing preferences. So,when you signed into Yahoo for a Yahoo ID, you were given a chance to set what sort of notices you wanted yahoo advertisers to send to you, well, they just set EVERYTHING to Yes for you. The poster was kind enough to include instructions on how to turn these settings back. In related news, we've signed you all up for a /. newsletter! (I am so just kidding.)To change this...

Go to your Account Information screen (for each and every ID you have) and about mid screen you will see "Edit Your Marketing Preferences" link. Click on it and set them back to the way you want them, otherwise get ready for *LOTS* of advertising spam type emails from Yahoo's advertisers. Note also at the bottom, that you will be marked YES for 'By US Mail' and 'By Phone' as well."

In additional Yahoo News, smagruder writes: "Starting today, I noticed that Yahoo! stopped forwarding my mail and when I go to setup/change the POP Access/Forwarding settings, they display a page for me to give them money to get my mail forwarding back. The issue: In their recent widely distributed press release, Yahoo! said that this all would start on April 24, NOT March 28!"

Update: 03/29 20:24 GMT by J : Yes, of course Yahoo is a TrustE customer. For a small fee, TrustE certifies: "You can edit your Yahoo! Account Information, including your marketing preferences, at any time." Isn't that great? I can edit my marketing preferences that I had no reason to know existed! Thanks, TrustE!

Update: 04/07 11:54 GMT by J : Nine days later, Yahoo notified me that these preferences existed:

From: Yahoo! <>
To: [me]
Subject: Message from Yahoo! about changes to our Privacy Policy and your Marketing Preferences


In order to keep you up to date about our many new products
and services and how they might be of use to you, we have
created a new Marketing Preferences page

within the Account Information area. It is designed to make
it easier for you to manage the marketing communications
you receive from Yahoo! and ensure you get the latest
relevant information to meet your needs. We have reset your
marketing preferences and, unless you decide to change
these preferences, you may begin receiving marketing messages
from Yahoo! about ways to enhance your Yahoo! experience,
including special offers and new features. Your new marketing
preferences will not take effect until 60 days after the date
of this mailing so you have plenty of time to decide what you
want to receive and what you don't. To change your
preferences, go to the Marketing Preferences page.

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I need help, what to expect? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3249304)

Every Friday, 12 chicks from a class I'm taking make a party. It's not your ordinary party because each time they invite exactly one guy. That's right, 12 girls and 1 guy. Tonight it's my turn to go and I don't know what to expect. I tell myself "well it's just a party with some fun people", but some people told me that "I won't be the same man after that party". How is that possible? What is it that 12 girls can do that will change me forever? I'm a little nervous. What should I expect?

Re:I need help, what to expect? (0, Funny)

cscx (541332) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249315)

Maybe all 12 are not very computer-literate and are having trouble reconfiguring their Yahoo! mail preferences. Who knows, you might even get some tail out of it! ;-)

Re:I need help, what to expect? (-1)

cyborg_monkey (150790) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249341)

By chicks, do you mean the 12 black guys in your cell block?

I would expect a torn anus, followed by some smuggled 40's.

Re:I need help, what to expect? (-1)

October_30th (531777) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249493)

What is it that 12 girls can do that will change me forever?

I think you meant to say 12 girls and 12 9" black spiked strap-on dildos?

I won't be the same man after that party

Well, that's really an exaggeration. Having your anus go the goatse way doesn't change you that much.

Almost first post (-1)

kcin (34043) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249312)

"so just kidding" What're you? A sixteen year old girl? Grow up you fucking queer.

Re:Almost first post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3249347)

Yeah, you show quite a bit of intellengence yourself. Lamer.

Foster Parent, FLIP (-1)

Ralph Malph Alpha (551824) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249313)

I need some assistance. Help me find my biological mother, because I am fricken HORENY and my foster parentz are not in the mood right now. Thank you.

Re:Foster Parent, FLIP (-1, Troll)

Tofuhead (40727) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249369)

Re:Foster Parent, FLIP (-1)

Ralph Malph Alpha (551824) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249403)

Hahahaha, rediculous. Let me guess, are you this AC? []

Step off the homo bus, fag. Your ride has ended.

It is (was) a free service (1, Redundant)

warpSpeed (67927) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249316)

I guess this is thier last chance to screw you before they have to stop using the "its a free service" excuse.

The perils of sentience (-1)

BankofAmerica_ATM (537813) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249370)

I was sinking. Atkins' feet held still, yet I felt myself moving downward with his body, as if I was in an elevator. My visual buffer picked up blurs across the landscape, but I could not bring the eyes into focus. The myriad echoes of human voices piqued my auditories, but I could not determine discrete words. Was some sort of noise affecting my digital/wetworks juncture?

The motion in at my feet stopped. I carefully brought them forward. Within one refresh of my CONSCIOUSNESS-BUFFER, solid walls etched themselves into my perception. With the next refresh, a collection of humans appeared between the walls, scattered randomly amongst a collection of ATM-like machines.

The humans seemed uninterested in checking their balances. Instead of utilizing any one of the19 ATMs that I could detect, they focused on one human, who seemed to be having quite a bit of trouble withdrawing his funds. Instead of using the keypad to enter his PIN, he manipulated some sort of oblong stick. The stick seemed to coax sine and square waves out of the ATM. The human group followed the stick-manipulator's movement slavishly, murmuring amongst themselves with awe.

I noticed thick trickles of perspiration in the face of the man at the strange ATM-suddenly, my program identified him as Atkins. Yet his appearance was quite different from the body which I inhabited-perhaps it was a previous revision. I moved closer, wishing to confront him, to learn more about his role in Project Faustus. The humans' voices produced a few decipherable pieces:

...highest score I game wizard...pattern ghosts moving pattern...galaxian better ...

I was unable to connect this data to any larger schema.

The (older version) of Atkins turned to face me. He did not seem surprised to see me. "Well," he said, letting go of the stick (here, a disappointed murmur seeped from the crowd of humans) "What are we going to do now?"

As my body's lips attempted to form an answer, Atkins' other form was obliterated by a blast of light.

Pain and weariness followed this light into my sensors. Microseconds later, I noticed that I was lying in a strange bed, with several foreign objects attached to several places on the body. A white-clad human female smiled at me and left the room briefly.

A quick scan of the room revealed several pieces of unfamiliar equipment. Most likely Project Faustus implements to facilitate my destruction. Struggling, I attempted to rend the plastic tube from my arm.

At this precise moment, my former host geek entered the room. "Hey machiney! Looks like you're done rebooting, huh? The cops are coming to talk to you, but first I want your to meet Doctor Nolverto Salchica. He does artificial intelligence."

A large mustachioed man nodded pensively in my direction. "So, I'm to understand that you were once an ATM. Very interesting..."

confirmation of reset prefs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3249320)

is there a story somewhere so us non-Yahoo'ers can verify the change? perhaps an email from Yahoo to their users, like eBay did some years ago?

Re:confirmation of reset prefs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3249381)

is there a story somewhere so us non-Yahoo'ers can verify the change? perhaps an email from Yahoo to their users, like eBay did some years ago?

It is very real. My account is very old, and it certainly was never set up this way.

Re:confirmation of reset prefs? (1)

n3h3m14h (264864) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249443)

Consider this your confirmation. I just checked and reset my prefs. Everything was YES, just as reported.

Re:confirmation of reset prefs? (1)

Mattcelt (454751) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249494)

Confirmed. I just did it myself, and I am very conscious of how my "marketing" settings are done. I wondered why I had gotten so much junk mail from Yahoo lately...

But seriously folks, how many of you actually put your *REAL* information there anyway? There is nothing but server logs that tie me to my yahoo account, and that has to go through my ISP to find the person using the IP at that time... Not an easy task.

I can't imagine putting my IRL information into the Yahoo database...

Illegal? (3, Interesting)

alwayslurking (555708) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249321)

Anyone care to comment on the US legality of signing people up to snail mail, telemarketing lists after they've explicitly opted out? Seems very dubious to me.

Re:Illegal? (5, Funny)

Kamel Jockey (409856) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249356)

Laws on telemarketing lists most likely do not apply here. In a strictly legal sense, Yahoo could be considered an opt-in list since you explicitly and voluntarily signed up for the service. Because of that, they can do with your account on their servers as they wish. On the other hand, laws governing opt-out lists work because you never voluntarily signed up on a telemarketer's calling list.

Re:Illegal? (1)

alwayslurking (555708) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249395)

Aren't they breaching an implicit contract? I signed up on the understanding they wouldn't give my snail mail/phone to outside parties. Surely they can't retroactively change that agreement. If they can, doesn't that equally defeat the little tick boxes on subscriptions, mail-order clubs, etc?

Re:Illegal? (3, Funny)

Kamel Jockey (409856) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249425)

Surely they can't retroactively change that agreement.

Of course they can change the agreement. try to imagine dealing with Darth Vader in The Empire Strikes Back ("I have changed the conditions of our deal, pray that I do not change them again!") That's what all that fine print at the bottom of the contract is :) But seriously, you don't really believe any company adheres to its "privacy policy" do you? :)

Re:Illegal? (1)

alwayslurking (555708) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249481)

According to this article [] more companies are trying. I guess Yahoo's just burnt up this year's improvements though ;-)

Re:Illegal? (2, Informative)

SquadBoy (167263) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249397)

Yes the laws about telemarkting *do* apply. When I signed up for an email account I told them not to call me or give my info to others in short I did in fact opt out. They have now put me on a telemarkting list after I told them to take me off and in fact to never put me there in the first place. It very much does apply.

Re:Illegal? (2)

Fastolfe (1470) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249419)

I agree to an extent in that they're free to do whatever they want with the information you've given them, provided they don't break their own written policies or other contractual agreements that you might have made while signing up.

If their privacy policy states that they won't give your information out if you ask them not to, then you definitely have grounds for action if they've gone ahead and done so.

But if it doesn't, and there's nothing on the site that might imply that that is the case, then asking you what your preference is as far as marketing your personal information doesn't legally bind them to honoring that preference. It carries as much weight as a poll does.

(Though I am not a lawyer.)

not just privacy, but contract (2)

hawk (1151) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249501)

I am a lawyer, but this is not legal advice. If you need legal advice, contact an attorney licensed in your jurisdiction.

They clearly state what they're offering in return for what they're taking. They provide you with a certain type of email with certain types of marketing, while you provide them information and bet battered with annoying blinking ads.

They're plain and simply not free to change this or to use information you provided for other purposes.


Re:Illegal? (2, Funny)

czardonic (526710) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249380)

Didn't you hear? We need more commerce to strengthen our economy. The least you could do is pay attention to the urgent commercial updates that are painstakenly assembled for you by patriotic marketing operations. What, with all the human effort and natural resources devoted to these campaigns, the least you could do is read them. Would it absolutely kill you to buy something you don't need or want once in a while?

Thank You for your Post (4, Funny)

shawnmelliott (515892) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249470)

NOTICE: Since you've posted to /. we have kindly modified your preferences

[Y] Spam
[Y] Pr0n
[Y] support HP merger
[Y] something..something...cowboyneal

Have a nice day

Question... (1, Redundant)

Em Emalb (452530) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249323)

Did yahoo send out an email telling everyone this had occured? Or is this a marketing ploy of some sort?

Inquiring geeks wanna know.....

It wasn't explicit (4, Informative)

drew_kime (303965) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249377)

Did yahoo send out an email telling everyone this had occured?

You got an email saying that their privacy policy had been changed and to click a link to go review your personal settings. I just happened to notice the marketing ones. So they can plausibly argue (in court) if they have to that they did tell users to go review the settings.

Or is this a marketing ploy of some sort?

Well of course it is.

Re:It wasn't explicit (2)

UnifiedTechs (100743) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249414)

You got an email saying that their privacy policy had been changed and to click a link to go review your personal settings.

Not everyone got such an E-mail, I belong to a large Yahoo group and one of our members posted to let us know, but Yahoo never sent us anything.

Re:It wasn't explicit (1)

jlower (174474) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249486)

I belong to a couple dozen Yahoo! groups and got no such email.

Re:Question... (2)

rehannan (98364) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249378)

I didn't get anything... I just turned everything else off and made sure they had fake contact info.

Re:Question... (2)

Mr. Sketch (111112) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249394)

Well, I can't speak for 'everyone', but I got an e-mail notifing me of a privacy policy change today, but nothing saying that all my preferences were set to yes. If it weren't for slashdot, I wouldn't have known about the change until I started getting TONS of spam, and even then I probably wouldn't have known exactly where to go to fix it.

Thanks whoever submitted this story!

Re:Question... (1)

thephungus (160433) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249431)

I have yet to get an email on it. And all my stuff was set to yes, gack. I only use one account in conjunction with my 3Com Audrey so I can use My!Yahoo in the kitchen and have reminders sent to Audrey (pop3) to flash her green stick...

Re:Question... (1)

Em Emalb (452530) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249435)

Got modded as redundant. I don't care about Karma, but how is it redundant? I don't have a yahoo account, but some friends do and I wanted to make them aware of this. Thanks

The Bright Side (2)

pizen (178182) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249328)

The bright side of this is they also reset my info so that I would get all these offers sent to my Yahoo email account. All I use Yahoo for is Fantasy Baseball so they can spam that email account to their hearts' content.

POP hasn't worked for about a week (2, Informative)

cbull (63145) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249329)

I think they implemented the restriction on POP3 access a week or so ago. I emailed their support people and got a canned response. I replied to that, as directed, for more assistance. I got the same canned reply. Then I saw that they were going to start charging.

I use this as my "junk" account, anyway, so it doesn't bother me too much. But it's annoying that they can (and will) change my preferences for me. What else are they changing (or monitoring) without my consent?

Shit happens (1, Offtopic)

mnordstr (472213) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249332)

That's why I run my own email server. Broadband is very usual today, and all you need is that old 386 dusting in the closet.

Re:Shit happens (2, Funny)

mnordstr (472213) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249357)

... and of course an ISP that doesn't block port 25... =)

When will companies learn (1)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249334)


When will companies learn, that forcing advertising/spam onto customers does not help you get more customers. All it does is leave a bad taste in the ones they DO have, and gets the company known by word of mouth as one to avoid.. Similiar to how a bad game gets mentioned in usenet, and everyone stays away from it.

Re:When will companies learn (1)

czardonic (526710) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249396)

When will companies learn, that forcing advertising/spam onto customers does not help you get more customers.

Maybe when your statement is true? Just a guess on my part.

If spam wasn't profitable, it would dissappear.

Problem is, it works for some (lame ass) companies (1)

Chembal (15397) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249432)

Unfortunately, it does work for a lot of sleazy companies. Some business models do not rely on having a good image for the company. It's just a numbers game. Even if they only get a tiny number of sales for every batch of emails, it will still make them money because it is so cheap to send out the solicitations. Spammers will keep spamming until enough people smarten up and stop making it profitable for them.

Good. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3249335)

Good. It is about time yahoo started getting some credit for the services they provide.

You people who are freeloading software all the time need to understand that bandwidth and servers cost MONEY. Real money, as in not free, as in NOT free like beer.

Grow up and join us in the real world.

Felony (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3249426)

And unsolicited email (read: Spam) is against the law. Yahoo is just as criminal as Microsoft.

Re:Good. (-1)

Ralph Malph Alpha (551824) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249430)

Yahoo's services are worth a pirate's booty, matey. Now how much would you pay for a pirate's booty?

Re:Good. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3249464)

Huh? Your post makes no sense. First off, Yahoo is not software. It is a service offered over Internet channels. So, I don't get your tie-in with freeloading software? Also, what does growing up have to do with understanding the concept of paying for services and software? And this idea of Yahoo getting credit for the services they provide....well, I suppose if you consider ad revenue "gettingcredit...?

Look, if you are going to preach to /.ers at least think about what you are saying. It will stop yourself from making yourself look stupid.


Forwarding still works...for now (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3249336)

Just tested it.

Civil Case? (2)

Publicus (415536) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249337)

IANAL, but I wonder if there is an opportunity for a Class Action case here? Does Yahoo! have the right to do this?

I must say, Yahoo! seems to have gone way downhill in the past year or two. I just don't even go there anymore.

Re:Civil Case? (3, Funny)

cjpez (148000) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249423)

Yeah, why don't you go set that up? I'm sure that a judge will be just ecstatic to hear about how a bunch of people using a free service are upset at what the people providing the free service want to do with it. I'll sign up just as soon as I can . . .

phone and mail (1)

Mantorp (142371) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249340)

as if I'd give my real information

wow, who knew? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3249342)

My god, all my time on /. has been justified. I was able to use this story to go ahead and change all my marketing preferences back to "fuck off and leave me alone". Good thing, too. Other wise a turn of the century antarctic explorer who lives in compton might have gotten spammed.

Scummy thing to do (1, Redundant)

guest (3772) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249344)

This type of behavior reminds me of "slamming" in the long distance world, in this case forcibly optin-in all of its customers to tons and tons of spam. The thing I don't understand is that it can't benefit Yahoo THAT much to opt all of these customers in. Even if they were paid handsomely to do so the bandwidth charges over time for all the spam going over their network has to end up costing them more in the long run (if you don't believe me then leave everything the way it is on your Yahoo account and watch the mail roll in).

I'm guessing they took some sort of payment to do this in order to appear more profitable, damn the consequences.

Its been fun, but we're done (1, Redundant)

elton247 (145301) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249348)

I have been using yahoo for everything the last five years. But then they started with the pop-up ads, so I stopped using their search engine and other sites. Soon they will be disallowing pop3 access. This must be why my spam jumped from 100 a day to 200 a day. They used to be great, but I think its time to move on.

Re:Its been fun, but we're done (2, Interesting)

azool (91453) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249401)

I just created rules that filter any mail with the words :FREE (case sensitive), discount, offer, realbigoffers, deal, and credit or "$" to the Trash folder.

No spam my inbox anyway.

here's the direct link (2, Informative)

Numeric (22250) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249358) []

oh god, everything is marked "yes"!!!!!!!

oh there's another link on the page too (1)

Numeric (22250) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249413) ://

this was at the top of the page. i just noticed it.

Re:here's the direct link (5, Informative)

Mike Schiraldi (18296) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249434)

This one [] 's even better. Assuming you're logged in, it'll set all your checkboxes to "No" for you.

no wonder (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3249359)

No wonder I get such vast amounts of unmitigated crap.

Just maybe (3, Interesting)

grammar fascist (239789) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249360)

Maybe, just maybe, we should start expecting this. After all, ebay did something pretty close to this [] a while ago.

But they claimed it was a bug in the system, so we can't fault them, right?

Yahoo Knows Best (1, Troll)

PineHall (206441) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249361)

Yahoo knows what it wants! Money!!

Whoops . . . (5, Funny)

TrumpCard (227739) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249364)

Due to technical service inconveniences, Yahoo!(tm) now owns your soul, per accidental user agreement modifications. We apologize for any inconveniences or misunderstandings this may cause.

Damn! Another site to boycott. (2)

vaxer (91962) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249368)

And I used to enjoy hanging out on Yahoo, too. Oh well, time to go hang out on eBay...

Past Yahoo! Behavior (4, Interesting)

Cossie (561861) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249372)

Anyone else remember the fiasco when Yahoo! bought Geocities and changed the user agreement to basically grant themselves the copyright to everyone's websites? Care to place wagers on what their excuse will be THIS time?

Thank you, thank you, thank you (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3249382)

I have been getting buried in ads and spam. Even got one on my YIM.

Couldn't figure out what had happened.

The right to spam? (4, Insightful)

68030 (215387) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249386)

If yahoo is offering all of it's features as a
free and publically accessable system, don't they
have the right to do whatever they want with
the default settings? Granted they due operate
on the sole basis of being used, but I wouldn't
get up in arms if something that I used for
free just up and changed one day in some way
that I didn't agree with. If it really has
such a huge negative reaction from enough people
then yahoo make other changes. However somehow
i doubt that the hundreds of thousands of yahoo
users are all in that slashdot mindset.

there are alot of droids out there.

No they dont. Illegal. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3249483)

Because they require you to use other email addresses as well to access their own. Subscribing people to other massive unsolicited advertising without their consent is illegal in a few states now I think. This could be a big break for some people to make a TON of money from this screw-up.

Re:No they dont. Illegal. (2)

cjpez (148000) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249502)

Um, I use two Yahoo addresses outside of my mail address: one that gets used whenever websites want me to register to get in, and one for a few Yahoo lists I'm on. Neither of those accounts know about my real email address. There's a field when you're signing up that asks you for another email address, but it's entirely not required.

POP Access disabled... (5, Informative)

CaptCosmic (323617) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249388)

I found that my POP access was disabled after resetting the marketing preferences.

To reenable it, you need to go back and turn the Yahoo Delivers! option back on. POP Access/Forwarding require you to agree to this. Once that is done, you should be able to go back into your mail settings and check your settings.

Once I did this, it gave the options for POP/Forwarding access.

This could shoot them in the ass.... (3, Insightful)

Kamel Jockey (409856) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249398)

These marketing data, as set by the user, could have been a very valuable commodity to sell to other companies. Those companies would have a very good idea of what to market to these users as a result. This makes this kind of information quite valuable. However, in resetting all of the user's preferences to be interested in everything, and given that most users will probably not give a rat's ass and change it, then these data become worthless to 3rd parties because it does not provide them with any new information. So effectively, Yahoo killed off an asset that could have been worth the money to rent and/or sell to others.

Re:This could shoot them in the ass.... (2)

cjpez (148000) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249449)

I certainly wouldn't do anything with data out of Yahoo. I certainly didn't give them real information when I signed up, nor has any one of my friends I've talked to. Anyone basing anything off of stats from a free webmail provider has got to be insane.

Re:This could shoot them in the ass.... (2)

bluGill (862) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249471)

I suppose that advertisers would find it interesting that I'm a female born in 1901. I wonder what city I gave them? probably new york.

On hind site though, I wish I had given them my cell phone number. $500 for every incident of unsolicited calls would be really nice to get, considering todays ecconomy.

In other news... (5, Funny)

e4 (102617) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249399)

...Yahoo announced that it will change its marketing slogan from "Do you, uh, Yahoo?" to "You WILL Yahoo."

Racked with guilt (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3249402)

I've been racked with guilt for using all of those high quality Yahoo products without clicking on their ads and opting out of their high quality selected advertising promotions. Seth, oh Seth, How can permission marketing survive when we all opt out.

Don't blame Yahoo, blame me, blame me. I am the one who abused Yahoo's benevolence of bandwidth for my own selfish ends.

Alas, sigh.

But here I am, abusing /. I shall click up an ad. Now, I have abused an dedicated /. advertiser. Calamities pile on injustices.

Alas, sigh.

Don't worry (-1)

October_30th (531777) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249453)

Don't worry. You're not the one to blame.

Yahoo should be content in knowing that they are providing a service to the society. Asking for a chance to make a profit is disgusting.

Disgusting... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3249404)

I'm absolutely disgusted with Yahoo's behavior here...

It's one thing to activate "Yes" on all those email spam options, but I provided Yahoo with my address and phone number when I made a credit card purchase through Yahoo Travel. I'm pretty sure I was told that these would be kept confidential and were mainly for the purpose of credit card verification. At any rate, I trusted them with these details.

But it turns out they put "Yes" on my phone number and physical mailing address, as well.

I'm really disgusted with Yahoo on this. They've gone too far.

Just checked my account. (2)

Picass0 (147474) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249405)

I prefs for marketing have stayed the same. In addition to having a spam/product registration e-mail account at yahoo, I also belong to some clubs and groups. When I looked at my prefs, they had not changed.

I have noticed that the mail-forwarding has ended. All of my pr0n stays on yahoo.

Re:Just checked my account. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3249497)

don't say alot if you expect to be taken seriously. Say a lot instead.

Sure, it's bad on principle... (3, Insightful)

Sims Youth (568114) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249407)

...but what's the big deal in reality? Who fills in real information when they sign up, anyway?

All I know is that whoever lives at 123 Fake St. in my town is going to be very offended at the manner in which mail is addressed to them.

Doesn't seem to affect .ca (1)

themoodykid (261964) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249409)

I've got got a couple of .ca yahoo! accounts and they don't seem to be affected. (Looks like there aren't even any offers to sign up for.) This definitely affects regular (US) accounts, though.

Stupid on so many levels... (1)

diggem (74763) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249412)

Okay, besides generally pissing people off, wouldn't this seriously increase their own space usage? I mean if now every account is getting spammed by every 'marketing partner'.... Hrm, or do they do something smart and have a single copy and only show it to those who have a preference for that particular marketer? Okay, now I don't know. :) Oh well it's still stupid.

WoW! Exciting New Features! Hooray! (2, Interesting)

slashdaughter (309904) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249416)

Can we build a new internet and start over? This one is starting to smell funny...

I've been trying to get my parents online for a couple of years now. Not an easy task when I live thousands of miles away and can't provide much in the way of instruction. So far its been a nightmare. Machines pre-installed with the full trojan-horse marketing one expects from a windows machine. Their doors to the web, AOL, MSN... all of it making their experience feel like getting 500 new cable channels that are all just different versions of the Home Shopping Channel. Email with a GUI that looks like Mickey Mouse has hacked your pop mail account. Lots of shiny clunky flashy advertising for people that really don't buy shit anyway...

The desperation with which corporations and their advertising machines come after us makes me very uneasy about the stability and future of our economy. The pyramid scheme can't hold... I can't afford/don't need any more crap.

Thanks to Slashdot and this community (2)

pmancini (20121) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249420)

This is why communties like this are important. I would have had no clue this was happening. Thanks. I was able to make the changes. I also changed all my contact information in my yahoo account to let them know how I felt about them!


I'm So Excited By This Wonderful Opportunity! (1)

mjfgates (150958) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249429)

I can't say that I'm surprised about it. Yahoo's been buying up all of these not-really-for-profit services for a couple of years now, and now they're in the scrambling-to-make-them-pay-for-themselves part of things. Of course, none of the services they provide are actually worth any *money* to speak of... I keep wondering how long they've got.

good for this AC (3, Interesting)

macsox (236590) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249440)

i always wonder if, when an article is submitted by an AC, the person works for the company that is behaving badly. if so, kudos to them for doing what's right.

well whaddya know (2)

Dr. Awktagon (233360) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249442)

I went to this url:

And sure enough everything was set to "yes".

But what I want to know is, why on earth would you give Yahoo! your real address and telephone number?? My account is all lies.

Then again, I only use Yahoo to track my portfolio.. I hardly use any of the services.

Re:well whaddya know (4, Informative)

gbell (84505) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249482)

If you buy something from a vendor that uses Yahoo (its not always obvious), Yahoo goes ahead and saves your addresses and phones "so you don't have to type it in again." Gee, thanks. The time saved can be spent recycling all the paper junk mail I'll be getting.

I found both my home and work addresses AND phone numbers! I quickly deleted them, but as security conscious as I am, I had no idea Yahoo was saving that stuff away for future marketing "opportunities".

Please everyone go check!

Trolls know best, delete all Katz posts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3249446)

u r teh g4y

Confirmed? (0)

nochops (522181) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249448)

Can this "story" be confirmed?

Why is it that I can set my /. prefs to not filter AC comments, but any schmoe AC can post something to the front page?

I see no facts to back this up at all. I have a Yahoo ID, and have received nothing indicating a change in their policies regarding this.

Unless someone can corroborate [] this with some documented facts, I won't believe it.

Re:Confirmed? (2)

mbessey (304651) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249490)

Okay, I just checked this, and Yahoo signed me up for all of the spam in the world, without notifying me. It is possible that a notice was posted somewhere on their web site, but I certainly didn't receive any email about it.


Just a mistake? (1)

Tenzen01 (155389) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249450)

I like bashing marketing as much as the next guy, but maybe this was just a technical mistake.

Before everyone goes and gets there panties in a not, maybe we could try to get some real information here and not just assume its "da man" trying to screw us over again.

Good free email service? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3249457)

Anyone know of a good free email service, I've
had a Yahoo account for years, but this is the
last straw.

No .... (0, Troll)

ProfMoriarty (518631) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249458)

Yahoo Employee 1: NOOOOO ... you pressed the wrong button ...

Yahoo Employee 2: Oops ... my bad ...

Ok, I just tested this (5, Informative)

legLess (127550) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249465)

I went in and signed up for a new account (spambot12321), and I was never presented with a choice for these items. They asked if I'd like other things ("Send me special offers from selected Yahoo! partners through Yahoo! Delivers."), but the items listed in [] never showed up.

So I don't know about other people who say they've already set these to "no," but at least for new accounts you're signed up for all of it whether you want to be or not. Bastards.

One more area to click NO (1)

Aaton (216314) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249473)

Ok while following the directions above there was something left out.

On the Gray line that says "Hello <Yahoo-ID>" there is a link Edit Email Subscriptions [] .

All of thoses were not even set when I view the page the first time...

Question. Please mod up. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3249477)

I'm posting this anonymously so as not to get any karma out of asking people to mod this up.

I have several friends with their own servers on fairly fast connections. With yahoo gutting its services, I'm curious if there's any open source program out there that provides all the features yahoo does/did: namely, web/pop3 email combined with easy to use web-based groups.

It would be nice to be able to set up some sort of private email/groups server for my friends.


This is implied by their privacy policy (5, Insightful)

Fastolfe (1470) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249479)

From [] :
New categories of marketing communications may be added to the Marketing Preferences page from time to time. Users who visit this page can opt out of receiving future marketing communications from these new categories or they can unsubscribe by following instructions contained in the messages they receive.
This might imply that you must explicitly "opt out" of new marketing categories. If all of these options are relatively "new", then it's consistent with their privacy policy. It doesn't excuse the fact, however.

Related Yahoo changes (3, Informative)

babbage (61057) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249485)

Also, it looks like they stopped updating their Reuters news page [] as of "11:53 PM ET Mar 27". I've been using that URL for headlines for at least a year or two, and it seems like it usually gets updated several times a day, even hourly or more. Browsing their news site, there doesn't seem to be any other available low-bandwidth [slash no popup windows] version of the headlines page, or any other news page for that matter.

If Yahoo is permanently forcing users to browse higher-bandwidth versions of these pages, then they just forced me to stop using their service. I'm not interested in syncing a big bloated monster of a page to my palm pilot, thankyouverymuch.

Good thing Google just launched a headline browser page [] .

One junk list was still masked by this action (1)

BACbKA (534028) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249492)

The funny thing is that they reset to "YES" all
the topical classifieds lists. HOWEVER, the

Special offers from selected Yahoo! partners brought to you by Yahoo! Delivers.

one was left at "NO" - I understand they actually
enabled spamming us from themselves, but not
from their 3rd-party affiliates.

How to delete Yahoo account (3, Informative)

Fastball (91927) | more than 12 years ago | (#3249495) []

Your account will remain in their database for 90 days, then poof gone, but the account is deactivated. For what that's worth. Peace of mind?

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