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Posts (1)

aaronsb (138360) | about 12 years ago | (#3260586)

Where exactally is the article at? I don't see it in this journal.

Re:Posts (-1)

asbestos_diaper (456125) | about 12 years ago | (#3260601)

I hereby claim this post for the ice-cold killaz in the troll community. You are stripped of your FP, smelly slashdork!

Re:Posts (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3260693)

ur geigh. go home now plz.

Re:Posts (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3260845)

Cant you read?

"The advance is reported in the March 13 print issue of the Journal of the American Chemical Society, the world's largest scientific society. "

On the scene! (-1)

asbestos_diaper (456125) | about 12 years ago | (#3260589)

Reporting live from the first post, it's asbestos_diaper! Police discovered the bodies of 4 ACs at this seedy motel today, their bodies covered in shit and semen. Relatives remain unsurprised.

Interesting... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3260594)

But wasn't 3D TV using little lenses alreday introduced in Japan ?

I think Beyond 2000 had a news item on this

Finally!! (3, Funny)

glwtta (532858) | about 12 years ago | (#3260605)

It's 2002 - 3D projection is waaaay overdue!

Oh, and while we are on the subject - where the hell is my flying car?

Re:Finally!! (-1)

beee (98582) | about 12 years ago | (#3260696)

humor (hymr)
n.
1. The quality that makes something laughable or amusing; funniness: could not see the humor of the situation.
2. That which is intended to induce laughter or amusement: a writer skilled at crafting humor.
3. The ability to perceive, enjoy, or express what is amusing, comical, incongruous, or absurd. See Synonyms at wit.
4. The exact opposite of the above post.

Re:Finally!! (1)

vreeker (264162) | about 12 years ago | (#3260699)

You could wait until the sky car comes out... or just hold the Moller [moller.com] Engineers hostage with a large salmon until they give you a prototype...

Re:Finally!! (1)

ZaneMcAuley (266747) | about 12 years ago | (#3260760)

and where are the flying cars :D

Re:Finally!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3260770)

Yeah, well, most of us rational thinkers weren't banking on a cartoon show to provide a viable glimpse into the future of technological development.

The long path to my living room (5, Insightful)

KFury (19522) | about 12 years ago | (#3260606)

I'd be interested in seeing if this goes anyhwere. The article is pretty light on tech and detail, and smacks of those 'terabyte in a sugarcube' articles. It doesn't really give detail on how 'shaping light' can be used for a 3-D TV, or what any of the constraining statistics actually are.

I'd love to see this kind of thing be a reality, but this reads like a small-scale experiment that a reporter caught wind of and extrapolated into a world-changing invention...

Re:The long path to my living room (1)

56ker (566853) | about 12 years ago | (#3260656)

"apparently the crystals are able to behave as both a solid and a liquid. neat." - I thought this was what's generally termed liquid crystal - ie not new at all - someone correct me if I'm wrong though.

immersive 3D TV, and... (4, Insightful)

ralian (127441) | about 12 years ago | (#3260612)

guess what, immersive 3D ads.

Damn Skippy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3261497)

Swedish Bikini Team v 2.0 with new and improved 3d jiggle action.

Beer commercial? Naw, new one hour variety show on Fox's fall line-up 2012.

Immersive ads, huh? (1)

VIIseven7 (140968) | about 12 years ago | (#3261734)

So I could, say, get engulfed by a giant virtual shark in a Jaws ad? Sweet!

*waits for slashdot story about hoverboard development*

I wonder how long the effect lasts. (2, Interesting)

tsornin (248038) | about 12 years ago | (#3260615)

I wonder how long the crystals retain their dual-phase properties. Will your 3D-TV work for weeks? months? years? forever? Remains to be seen...

Holographic, Schmolographic (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3260621)

I say we just abandon the holograms and link the computers straight into our brains. Have a globe-encompassing wireless network, and a complete intertwining of the man and machine, and you wouldn't need any holographic emitters. The images would be projected onto the "true" vision. Television could be 50 feet tall, fully 3D, and interactive if you wanted.

passes the porn test... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3260630)

...passes the Porn Test (as developed by some fellow Slashdotter whose handle I forget).

Basically, the Porn Test says that unless a communications technology helps the dissemination of porn, it will fail. The applications of 3DTV to the adult entertainment industry are obvious, so the technology is bound to succeed.HDTV on the other hand (for instance) is much less useful, as most porn-watchers are too (ahem) busy to notice the higher resolution. So hold off with the $ until you see 3DTVs in Future Shop.

Re:passes the porn test... (3, Insightful)

Dynedain (141758) | about 12 years ago | (#3260675)

HDTV on the other hand (for instance) is much less useful, as most porn-watchers are too (ahem) busy to notice the higher resolution

Or maybee its because HDTV reveals all the blemishes, and the garish amounts of makeup used to cover it up to a level of detail that the human eye normally wouldn't pick up. While Cindy Crawford's mole is considered a "beauty mark", I'm sure many porn stars have less than flattering blemishes.

Re:passes the porn test... (-1)

GafTheHorseInTears (565684) | about 12 years ago | (#3260695)

Reminds me of something Ron Jeremy once said.

"The difference between amateur porn and professional porn is the number of ass zits."

Re:passes the porn test... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3263439)

HDTV fails the porn test because there are no porn stations broadcasting in HDTV!

this was just posted yesterday (0, Redundant)

c0enzyme (221872) | about 12 years ago | (#3260658)


http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/03/30/1243 20 4

Re:this was just posted yesterday (2)

Radical Rad (138892) | about 12 years ago | (#3260802)

Oh well, I thought this should have made the front page the first time.
But it does make me feel like a redheaded stepchild.

Much more than just TV (5, Insightful)

Bowfinger (559430) | about 12 years ago | (#3260660)

From the article:

In addition to the possibility of 3-D TV, the solid-crystal molecules could act as ultrafast switches in optical computers. Stacked in a cube several inches high, they could provide unprecedented storage potential, perhaps many billion times that of current devices. Speed of access would prove dramatically faster than is possible with current computer designs.

Seems like this is a much more significant application than fancier television. We can't even get any momentum behind HDTV, and that technology has been available for years. What are the odds of getting any real progress on 3D-TV in the next 20 years? (Unless this stuff can make hands-on porn - then look for it in Best Buy by Christmas.)

On the other hand, optical switching and high-capacity storage could deliver practical benefits much more quickly. If this is more than another April-fools claim, I would look for the first developments there.

prnicess leia hawking used cars (2, Funny)

davejenkins (99111) | about 12 years ago | (#3260664)

Help me, Obi wan Kenobi
You're my only hope to move THESE USED CARS DIRECT TO YOU at LOW LOW PRICES!

hurry now!

AGAIN, MODERATORS ARE FUCKING IDIOTS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3260849)

This is offtopic if you're a jackass and don't get the joke. Otherwise, it's on-topic and funny.

liquid crystals? (5, Funny)

Scrameustache (459504) | about 12 years ago | (#3260665)

apparently the crystals are able to behave as both a solid and a liquid. neat."

WOW! This is revolutionary! This could create such incredible technologies as digital watches and even colour Liquid Crystal Displays! This is new and exciting! Never heard of this before! ;-) Imagine, we could make computer screen that would be flat...or even small portable computing devices with coulour displays...maybe even videogames that could fit in your pockets!

The futur is now indeed!

(Ok, ok, I'll stop now...)

Did you mean... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3260720)

WOW! This is revolutionaire! This could create such incroyable technologies as numerical watches and even couleur Liquide Cristal Displays! This is new and excitant! Never heard of dix before! ;-) Imagine, we could make computer screen datte would be flatte...or even small portable computing devices with couleur displays...maybe even videogames datte could fitte in your poches!

De futur is now indeed!

Whee! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3260735)

Yes! Oprah now officially in-your-face!

Thank you technology!

Huh? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3260746)

Wasn't this posted a little while ago? Or did I actually see it at a news site that doesn't get it's shit second hand?

As an aside, I had your sister last night. In the pooper too!

This won't bring optical computing home anytime soon, ass-head. I bet the last machine your bought from Dell was the first one ever without ISA slots. ISA, mofers! No optical comps for a very long time.

As for 3-D TV, that shit is already possible... ask Sega. Yea, that's the gaming company S E G A. SErviceGAmes, mofers. They got that shit down. Problem? No CONTENT! How much TV gets broadcast in HD now? Almost zero. How much will get broadcast in 3-d? Absolute zero. We won't see this as any more than a novelty in our lifetimes.

By the way, I give your sister a 7 out of 10.

Slashback: Eastertide (-1)

YourMissionForToday (556292) | about 12 years ago | (#3260792)

Hello and welcome to the Eastertide slashback. Joining us this week are CmdrTaco, Richard Stallman, Britney Spears, and Jesus.

Jesus: I was led to believe that there was going to be cheese dip at this meeting.

s0000 exciting (2)

oo7tushar (311912) | about 12 years ago | (#3260820)

This is s00 exciting, can you imagine Virtua Fighter in a 3d environment? Or...Super Smash Brother M3l33?

of course the medical benefits are enourmous, you can completely see where specific t00ls exist in 3 space.

and yet, it seems that James Bond and MI6 already have this technology (The World Is Not Enough) (g00d 0ld Q)

Fucking goddammit (-1)

GafTheHorseInTears (565684) | about 12 years ago | (#3260833)

Fuck, I just realized that tomorrow is April 1st, which means we have to put up with a whole day of Shitdot's editors making lame attempts at being funny, posting idiotic stories about Torvalds/Cox/RMS/ESR getting jobs at Microsoft, Jack Valenti getting busted with a hard drive full of MP3's, and Linux being ported to a sheet of low-grade blotter.

Goddamn fucking motherfucking goddamn I hate April 1st.

Idea doesn't make much sense... (3, Insightful)

pseudofrog (570061) | about 12 years ago | (#3260859)

Aside from being a neat novelty, is there any practical value to this concept? With the TV being in 3d, I don't think the brain would correctly put into perspective how large the filmed area is unless it happened to be the size of your TV. I seriously doubt this will even match your current TV experience. And with the lack of shows or movies that use 3d glasses, maybe people just don't care about watching shows in 3d. Aw well...I could be wrong... Matt

hrm... (1)

labratuk (204918) | about 12 years ago | (#3261011)

apparently the crystals are able to behave as both a solid and a liquid. neat

Kinda as if they... ...were... ...some kind of crystal that were.. ..liquid. A Liquid... ...Crystal, if you will. Well, this seems like some revolutionary technology to me.

How this applies to holograms (5, Interesting)

ThesQuid (86789) | about 12 years ago | (#3261132)

This is really stupendous news. A hologram is, for all intents and purposes, just a pattern of light and dark bands on a piece of film. Since they've been able to create these patterns on demand at the molecular level (which is necessary because of the size of the visible wavelengths of light), you essentially get a computer generated hologram. Coupled with the switching speeds they are speaking of (billionths of a second) you could easily make fully immersive displays from this. (holodeck anyone? Reminds me of the walls of the houses in Fahrenheit 451).
Only problem is, the processing power needed for such things is enourmous. They'll have to first use this technology in the back-end processors to get the necessary oomph to be able to produce killer apps like immersive tv and such. It'll be an interesting chicken-and-egg problem for them.

No to speak of what kind of camera could make such full motion 360 holograms? I didn't see mention that the crystals also could act as sensors....such a thing would be needed unless you want ALL your programming to be computer-generated images. (now there's an idea...)

Re:How this applies to holograms (1)

Mr.Sharpy (472377) | about 12 years ago | (#3265386)

Now, we just need to figure out how to make a force field like technology so we can interact with the images. Incidentally, I always find it curious that I hear about all sorts of sci fi technology like antimatter, transporters and holograms; but I have never seen anything at all about one of the most fundimental sci fi technologies...the force field. Anyone have any idea as to whether or not people are working toward such technology?

Holographic printer (5, Insightful)

Chayce (199487) | about 12 years ago | (#3261154)

If these crystals do what they claim, although a holographic monitor may be a few years off, a printer that prints 3D images onto holograhic paper may be in stores quickly, all you need is to be able to give every square millimeter, the light it recieves from the virtual object and apply a reference beam thats out of phase. Then we can have holographic pictures taken by a digital cameras using sterioscopic setup, put through a simple 3D extrapolation program. Oh well my spelling sucks, but you get the point.

--I like replies much more than I like Karma

How is the video to be displayed generated though? (2, Insightful)

Fuzion (261632) | about 12 years ago | (#3261242)

This technology is pretty impressive, and if it does enable 3D television, then I'm just wondering how exactly we'd record video to be displayed using this technology. I know it'll probably work for 3D computer generated videos because you can just send it the raw data, but how exactly do you film something in real life so that viewer can walk around the object and see it from a different angle? Or am I not understanding this correctly?

Re:How is the video to be displayed generated thou (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3261728)

Yeah, there are definately going to be some limitatation to 3D TV it ever come around... it won't be as cool as in the movies.

For one thing, you would only be able to capture the front side of things which would still be wicked cool. It would just mean that you would have to watch TV from the front and not be able to walk all around it if you wanted to see it properly (just like normal TV, so that's not so bad). This could be done with a single lens and laser or radar range finder or multiple cameras and some more complex and computationally intensive mesh creation and texturing.

I'm trying to imagine what type of device a news reporter could actually carry around. Realistically, a 3D news broadcast could be done with a hand held device containing two cameras spaced atleast 30 degrees from each other. Although 90 would be great... there would be missing data on only a small slice of the back of someone's head if filmed at normal TV reporter distance.

The other thing is dealing with background like someone mention in an earlier post. I can imagine all objects that aren't the center of attention and that exist beyond some certain depth could just be displayed as a 2D canvas in the backgroud.

Anyway, I've wondered about this type of tech since I was kid. I would be content with a 2D projection that somehow just projects into 3D space... like a floating image. I'm hoping that advanced optical/quantum breakthroughs will let this happen.

Re:How is the video to be displayed generated thou (1)

sgtsanity (568914) | about 12 years ago | (#3261899)

Well, there was some technology that I saw a while back that would film it from many (100+) different angles and composite the completed film into a computer animation. However, this was very crude and probably will be for the forseeable future. So the only practical way to create 3d films will to go the completely computer-generated route.

Uhh, people - 3DTV is already avaliable (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3261282)

Check out the 3D monitors at www.dti3d.com. Yeah, these crystals sound cool, and the possibilities for optical computing are amazing, but don't get too excited over 3D tv/monitors, 'cuz they're already around

3dtv? (1)

vanyel (28049) | about 12 years ago | (#3261707)

How does shaping the light source help with 3dtv? To achieve 3d imagery, you have to get different signals to each eye of each member of the audience. I suppose you could do it with a spherical crystal of some sort, but the focusing optics will be "interesting" and everyone has to look at the light source. The other way is to get the beam of light to bend (reflect) in 3-d space somehow (which is how most sci-fi shows it working). Good luck! And the light source has nothing to do with that.

Popular Mechanics 1958? (4, Insightful)

Baldrson (78598) | about 12 years ago | (#3261885)

new crystal technology that could enable 3D-projection television and bring optical computing to consumers sooner. apparently the crystals are able to behave as both a solid and a liquid. neat."

Waking up bleary from Saturday night and stumbling to my computer before the first cup of coffee had taken hold, I pulled up Slashdot.

"No," I said, "they wouldn't actually publish an article mentioning 'crystals' that 'behave as both a solid and a liquid' without mentioning 'liquid crystals' and the distinction between the two. I must have slipped a day -- it must be April 1 and they've taken advantage of my debilitated state to pull an April Fools joke. I mean -- this sounds just like something out of a 1958 Popular Mechanics article on the future in light of the revolutionary new material known as liquid crystals . That's it... the scumbags at the American Chemical Society News Service went and pulled an ancient issue of some popular rag from the archives of a venerable University, typed it in and presented it as a current article just to show how little things have actually changed in display technology over that time."

But, no -- it is March 31 after all, Miguel A. Garcia-Garibay, who is not Glenn Brown [kent.edu], was born in 1960 and mere anarchy is loosed upon the world.

After 60 years, TV is finally cathcing up to radio (2)

red_crayon (202742) | about 12 years ago | (#3262365)

My grandfather had a crystal radio... it's nice to see TV finally catch up.

3D? I can't even get my HDTV... (1)

bitpusherdotorg (544243) | about 12 years ago | (#3262693)

Before anyone gets excited about this stuff let me point out that I am remember the hype about HDTV and last time I checked we're all still waiting for it. Start talking to me about 3D television as soon as we are all watching HDTV.

MEEPT!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3263529)

Yes, this is a repeat post, but you must realise that cmdrtacky is new to slapdown, and doesn't really post a lot of stories.

Oh what? He's been *told* not to post a lot of stories.

Well, that'll piss people off. Not only has he posted a whole pagefull, but also reposted old news.

*What an idiot!!!!*

30% of your stock. What an idiot.

MEEPT!!

Let's not forget... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3263989)

...that other 3D technology recently hitting the news.

IIRC, it worked with an extra dimension -- they gave an easy analogy, comparing it to a normal TV requiring an orthogonal electron beam.

Through some pretty complex quantum physics (which I don't grok), some russian guys made particles disappear and reappear at chosen (x,y,z) coordinates in a box. Their page has pics of 3d-splines, saddle-like figures, etc. and also a cat trying to drink milk from an holographic dish -- as a reference to Schoeredinger. Russian humour, I guess. Spooky.

Look in Google for "3d-TV" and "4d". It's the third link on the 2nd page.

But the real question is: does it run Linux?
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