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Geek Outdoor Hobbies?

Cliff posted more than 12 years ago | from the theres-a-big-world-out-there-away-from-that-monitor dept.

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Embedded Geek asks: "My wife and I, in an effort to get more exercise, have recently begun geocaching, which is basically global scavenger hunt using GPS. We have also been active in the Society for Creative Anachronism and my friends are always trying to draft us into paintball. While we're having a blast with all these, I wanted to see if other slashdotters could suggest more geek style, outdoor hobbies that would appeal to a pair of pasty faced nerds like us."

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Not exactly outdoor, but out of the house (2)

billn (5184) | more than 12 years ago | (#3380937)

Laser Tag. LaserQuest, to be specific. Good cardio, lotta fun. Ranks up there with paintball on my list of favorites.

Re:Not exactly outdoor, but out of the house (0, Offtopic)

billn (5184) | more than 12 years ago | (#3380956)

Wow. My own first post. =D

Re:Not exactly outdoor, but out of the house (4, Interesting)

sjehay (83181) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381063)

Hmm. Laser Quest is fun - but nowhere near as fun as paintballing. Laser Quest involves being inside buildings painted all in black and shooting at people at close range with cheesy sound effects; there's no physical aspect to it at all. Sure, it's a laugh, but it's pretty much the same all the time... Paintballing is outdoors; it involves crawling around in mud a lot in my experience :-) Still, you get much, much more of an adrenaline rush hiding with a mate behind a tree/log as millions of paintballs whistle over your heads trying to get down covering fire as teammates go for their flag, etc. - or sprinting for home through the undergrowth with The Bad Guys in hot pursuit. Much more in the way of tactics, much more in the way of teamwork, much work in the way of physical exercise.

Laser Quest isn't as fun - but it's not anywhere near as expensive, either. After charging plenty for entry they hit you with huge bills for the ammunition as well. Ouch.

Re:Not exactly outdoor, but out of the house (3)

billn (5184) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381283)

If you think there's no physical aspect to it, wander down for a member's night, or worse yet, a NAC team practice. NAC teams are faster and meaner than some paintball crews I'm seen. Any game you can walk out of dripping sweat with the rest of the players screaming your name, is a good one. Good quester's play like they have radar. They know what's going on around them at all times, and have some seriously quick reaction times.

LQ (1)

snack (71224) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381380)

Hey Billn... what team are you on?

I play... Colorado springs... well i used to, i recently moved and havent played lately.


Outdoors? (4, Funny)

Siliconwalker (163150) | more than 12 years ago | (#3380941)

what is this "outdoors"?

Re:Outdoors? (1)

Bladerunner2037 (516233) | more than 12 years ago | (#3380977)

OKay for some reason, this really cracked my ass up. donno why. could be a lack of sleep.

Re:Outdoors? (1)

panker (461977) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381168)

Didn't your ass already have a crack in it?

Outdoors defined. (1)

fm6 (162816) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381314)

You've played VR games where there weren't any walls, right? Maybe with green things, and small moving life forms, some of which aren't even hostile? Well, "outdoors" is the part of Real Reality that this part of Virtual Reality was modeled on. Boggles the mind, doesn't it?

Re:Outdoors defined. (1)

Siliconwalker (163150) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381389)

Consider my mind boggled.

Re:Outdoors? (1)

Drakin (415182) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381471)

It's that place where the air smells funny, with the really high blue ceiling (well, sometimes it's grey, or red, or black with specks of light), and you can't see the walls...

oh, there's a big ball of bright light there too...

Re:Outdoors? (1)

zedman (98578) | more than 12 years ago | (#3384173)

Isn't your computer facility equipped with a big room [] ??


Uh... (5, Funny)

Cuthalion (65550) | more than 12 years ago | (#3380949)

If the SCA isn't geeky enough for you, just give up now.

Re:Uh... (0, Troll)

ksheff (2406) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381610)

The name is wrong too. It should be Society of Cliquish Assholes if you ask me.

Re:Uh... (1)

McCarrum (446375) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381857)

Well, in the SCA, a Troll is two heavy fighters working as one (well, you hope so) with a left and right arm linked.

M'lord, if you wish to troll, why not wrap yourself in armour and jump on the field ... much more fun :)

Re:Uh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3381884)

And associate with stick jocks and other assorted jerks who get off on pretending to be mediaeval nobility? No thanks. If I wanted to be associated with assholes, I'd be a proctologist.

Re:Uh... (1)

McCarrum (446375) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382060)

I just prefer to reply to them on Slashdot ;)

You know I once got really bad service and food from a takeaway once ... why, that must mean all takeaway places are like that ...

By your post, you didn't 'grok' the whole thing. By your post, it's good you didn't return.

May you find what you're looking for ...

Re:Uh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3383151)

actually, all takeout/takeaway food places are bad. You are relying on some minimum wage idiot who probably has hepatitis-C or some other communicable disease to prepare ones food. The fact that you get occasionally good service is just an accident.

Re:Uh... (1)

The FooMiester (466716) | more than 12 years ago | (#3384131)

In AEthelmarc and the East, the troll is the person you pay when you get to the event.

Come See the Endless Hills of AEthelmaerc []

Re:Uh... (2)

JabberWokky (19442) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382124)

If the SCA isn't geeky enough for you, just give up now.

Well, you can seriously get into the geekier aspects of SCA, like ArtSci, and try to recreate ancient weaving techniques or calculate precisions of mideval navigation devices (a friend of mine wrote 80 pages on period holes. The kind in privys. Not the board, not the ditch - he wrote about the hole in the board. Just the hole). Or you can firewalk and find a campsite full of kindred spirits heartily singing science fiction and fantasy filksongs. Or you can always find a BDSM encampment. Knot theory is geek, last I checked. Ahem. ;) The SCA is a pretty large group, and there are metric tons of subgroups.


Biking (2, Interesting)

NWT (540003) | more than 12 years ago | (#3380952)

I like mountainbiking a lot to get some time off. I is a really fun sport, but tricky and exhausting in the beginning. You'll get a really good endurance if you practise at least a 2 times a week (for about 2 hours). Besides your flexibility will improve if you ride in more difficult terrain, but it takes a while to get used to handling a mountainbike. Equipment is rather expensive if you want to have good quality bikes, but that shouldn't be the problem if you're plaing around with GPS systems out there ;)

Re:Biking (2)

xpccx (247431) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382703)

Although I agree that mountain biking is a lot of fun, it doesn't have to be "tricky and exhausting in the begining". I started out "trail riding" where you're far enough off the beaten path to need something more than a 10 speed or a BMX bike.

You could easily walk these trails but you can cover so much more distance with a bike. You end up finding things you wouldn't find walking because you never would have gotten there on foot. I'm talking about everything from the landscape to hidden streams and ponds. You can always progress to the more rugged terrain later on if you want. I do that now but more for exercise than for enjoyment.

A decent GPS will cost you about $200-$300, whereas a decent mountain bike will cost you around $600-800. I would not suggest going to Sports Authority or similar sporting goods stores. Find a bike shop that sells decent bikes ( like Gary Fisher [] , Specialized [] , Iron Horse [] or K2 [] ). Go in knowing what the bikes cost on-line. I find that the people that work at the little bike shops know what their talking about. Also, if you can afford it, don't buy a cheap bike. Cheap mountain bikes aren't mean for really rugged terrain. It may also cost you more in the long run in maintenance.

I plan on integrating my photography hobby in with the trail riding eventually. You can get photographs of things that most people never see.

Walking! (4, Interesting)

fm6 (162816) | more than 12 years ago | (#3380978)

Not usually thought of as geeky, but you can make it geeky. Bring along your GPS; take notes on what you see with your Palm, which should also have downloaded maps of your stroll (though you should consider the pleasures of deliberately getting lost); record every single excurusion with a wearable cam; etc.

Walking is extremely good for you and difficult to find excuses against. Bad weather? Just makes it more interesting.

Walking forces you to interact on a human level. Which is either good or bad, depending on you point of view.

Re:Walking! (3, Interesting)

daviddennis (10926) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381222)

I've been trying to do this myself, and my best sessions have always been when I bring my digital camera along and take pictures. I get so absorbed in the picture-taking process I forget I'm exercising.

Another way to get exercise is to go to a trade show of some field you're interested in, like the auto show or DV expo. You're on your feet a lot. Just watch for the absymal food [] served at convention centers; take a break to go to a restaurant instead. (The link is to my own pictures, by the way. Camera is my spiffy Canon EOS D30 which I bought in January, shortly before the D60 came out).

If you live in a neighborhood with comically expensive real estate, you can always check out a few land listings. They're fun to look at because you can generally wander the land at will [] (again, my pictures, taken with my Canon XL1 MiniDV). In Los Angeles, [] has land listings.

Hope that helps.


lost then gps (1)

chocolatetrumpet (73058) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381500)

Also fun is to get yourself lost, then use your gps to get your back, which is good, especially as it is beginning to get dark :-)

Re:Walking! (5, Funny)

Paradise Pete (33184) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382456)

take notes on what you see with your Palm

Day one, January 3rd The inside of my glove.
Day two, January 4th The inside of my glove.
Day three, January 5th The inside of my glove.
Day seventeen, January 19th Still the inside of my glove. Man I can't wait for Spring.

Re:Walking! (1)

ksheff (2406) | more than 12 years ago | (#3383333)

If I can get up early enough, I usually walk to work. Not only do I get some exercise, but I don't have the hassle of searching for a parking space. I found a dried up frog once that my kids think is really cool too. The only downside are the people who defecate on the sidewalk or those who let their pets do the same and don't clean up after them.

Camping... (3, Interesting)

quantax (12175) | more than 12 years ago | (#3380988)

It seems pretty obvious, but I think a lot of people don't realize how much fun camping really is. Before I start, let me clarify what I mean: there is camping where you bring a shitload of beer, drive to a campsite (or hike 1/4 mile to it) and proceed to get wasted. This is not camping, its partying in the forest. Try finding a local state forest that has some good hiking routes, grab a backpack, and head out for the weekend. I have gone camping with friends many times, and almost everytime there is a good tory or two to tell as a result. And BTW, do not go to one of these places where it looks like a refugee camp because of all the families camping within 15 feet of one another. Do yourself a favor and leave the laptop, palm, etc at home.

Thats called backpacking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3381645)

Just a thought for yah, those of us who do this sort of a thing (hiking into the woods with all our gear in a backpack) on a regular basis call this the sport of backpacking. In fact, there is a magazine [] or two devoted to this endeavor.

Re:Thats called backpacking (1)

Cuisinart (332) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382715)

Just a thought for yah, perhaps he was referring to camping in a campground and going for day hikes.

Re:Camping... (0)

aliusblank (547153) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381774)

you mean like in Q3 right? :-P

eXtreme Croquet (2, Informative)

NBrooke271 (260498) | more than 12 years ago | (#3380989)

Extreme Croquet seems like a pretty geeky fun game to me. Polymer mallet heads, machiened wickets, physics, geometery and the outdoors. The Connectuicut eXtreme Croquet Society [] has an interesing site on the subject.

Rollerblading + Paintball (2)

Jester998 (156179) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381004)

My two favourite (summer) outdoor activities are rollerblading and paintball.

Personally, I put my laptop into a backpack carrying case, strap on some blades and go. At about the half-way point on my normal path, there's a coffee shop with outdoor tables... buy a coffee/Pepsi/fruit juice/whatever, sit at a table and pull out the laptop. Code for a bit (or whatever computing endeavor tickles your fancy that day). When you're done, pack up the laptop again and go home. Total time is usually a few hours by the time you're done, and you can actually get some work done while you're at it, if you're so inclined.

Paintball, naturally, is a blast. This is the time that you get back at people who blasted you in Quake... and it's much more... painful... for them. :)

- Jester

Re:Rollerblading + Paintball (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3381042)

paintball on rollerblades - that would be cool!

Re:Rollerblading + Paintball (1)

PsychoFurryEwok (467266) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381263)

I must say...excellent idea! I think I'll start doing it myself. Maybe even betetr yet, you could goto an internet coffee shop and blast people in Quake, then ask them to go play paintball. ;-) But...sounds like fun to me. Just have to find a good coffee shop within 5 miles of me where I don't have to cross a major freeway. ;-)

Rollerblading *and* Paintball? (2)

fm6 (162816) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381293)

Could get messy!

Autocross (2, Interesting)

ctr2sprt (574731) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381024)

This doesn't really involve any exercise, but find a big parking lot that's empty on weekends and buy a bunch of traffic cones. Set up a course with the cones and do timed runs. Or if you have a truck, find an off-road course somewhere (do not just go anywhere!) and run that. There are clubs everywhere if you want to do those with other people. Most car clubs will also rent local racetracks and have "driver's ed" classes for a hundred bucks or so. Some car clubs - the BMWCCA, for example - will also get you discounts on parts at car dealers or on the purchase of a new car (really).

Not really exercise, but it gets you out in the sun. And if your heart isn't racing by the end of your run, you're not doing it fast enough or hard enough.

Geek is all in your head (4, Insightful)

FransUNC (518475) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381047)

Being geek is a state of mind, it's not a seperate entity or anything. I love outdoors, and I do a lot of outdoors-y stuff, like climbing, camping, fording rivers and creeks, hiking, etc etc...

At the same time, when I'm indoors, I'm constantly into gadgets and computers and other electronic stuff. But I would probably be insulted if someone labeled me as a geek.

My point is, don't think of it from a "geek" perspective. I don't consider myself one, and I don't want to be considered as one, but that doesn't prevent me from reading slashdot and tweaking my computer constantly. Don't let being a geek prevent you from playing football or rock climbing or even sunbathing. Be proud to be a geek. But don't be too proud to have fun.

Re:Geek is all in your head (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3381085)

Couldn't agree more.

Why don't you try something totally different and unrelated to computers in any way? You never know - you might even enjoy it! ;-)

Rowing, for instance. Or climbing. Or tennis. Or whatever...

Re:Geek is all in your head (1)

Helix150 (177049) | more than 12 years ago | (#3383481)

Being a geek is a state of mind. It often manifests itself with geeky behavior.

Personally I'm proud and secure with my geekyness. I make no effort to hide the handful of little electronic gadgets I carry around everywhere. I consider being called a geek to be a compliment and would probably be insulted if someone said I wasn't one.

You're thinking of 'geek' as a stereotype (skinny kid with taped glasses and no fashion sense who walks around talking in computerese), not a state of mind (someone who embraces technology in everyday life further than usual). Nowhere does it say that geeks can't participate in non-geeky activities, simply most geeks choose not to. And I've been up for about 30 hours so if this post makes little sense please ignore it.

OMG D00DZ (-1, Offtopic)

redhotchil (44670) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381135)


disc golf (4, Interesting)

tps12 (105590) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381140)

You might give disc golf a shot. It's cheap to get into, pretty good exercise (as golf goes), and exposes you to nature, which is fun. There are courses all over, so check out the directory [] to find one near you. Most people try it out with normal frisbees before investing in real golf discs.

Oh, relaxed is the name of the game also. It is not unusual to see beer drinking and pot smoking on the course and in the parking lots, though this obviously varies a lot course to course

Re:disc golf (1)

Icepick_ (25751) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381597)

Bring a plastic bag with you, and pick up some trash as you play.

Keep your courses clean!

Re:disc golf (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3382275)

Amen. We make a habit in summer of bringing a trash bag and picking up cans/bottles, taking them in for the 5c/each deposit, and using the money to buy Bomb Pops. There's enough people who drink while playing and leave the empties next to the trash bins that we do pretty well.

Re:disc golf (1)

Paradise Pete (33184) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382446)

Bring a plastic bag with you and pick up some trash as you play.

You must be a riot at parties.

Do yourself a favor and spend the $10 (2)

Llama Keeper (7984) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381632)

If you want to try disc golf, do yourself a favor spend the ten bucks and get a real golf disc. If there is anywind at all you will thank yourself, plus you'll drive better, enjoy the game more and score better with a real golf disc.

Word of advice, leave the pot and beer at home, drink water you'll enjoy the game more and avoid the wrath of other players...

don't forget Ultimate Frisbee (2, Informative)

dy_dx (131159) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382652)

Maybe it's not as passive as disc golf, but lots of geeks still play Ultimate Frisbee. Most people have never played it until they get to college, and, as such, it's a very beginner-oriented sport. If you ever see people playing in a park, they're usually more than happy for you to join in, even if you've never played before.

It does involve some running, but it's non-contact and fun as hell. In fact the most important rule in the game is for it to be well-spirited (and fun). Also, many tournaments involve some wicked partying =)

If you're interested in learning more, try:
What is Ultimate? []
The Ultimate Handbook []
or find a team near you. []

Cycling (1)

pknut (571294) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381179)

Cycling is a great way to stay fit. There are some pretty beefy hills near why I live in the UK. There's nothing better than spending a day blasting down slopes. Strangely enough, pulling yourself to the top of the hill is just as exilarating.

Much fun can be had trying to push yourself as hard as possible on a downhill. All you really need is a speedo. And you get the added benefit of being able to boast that you hit 37 mph on a rocky downhill :)

I've taught myself to use a map if/when the hillfog comes in, but a GPS is always added insurance. And it has the added benefit of allowing you to plot the route that you took.

I find that cycling is a great way to boost fitness levels, and get some proper sunlight exposure, instead of the crappy monitor tan ;) I also find that I spend ages tuning my bike, which gets me away from my computer.

Swimming. (1)

dwlemon (11672) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381199)

I joined the Army and I leave for basic training on May 15th, so I have to get in shape. I've been running, doing pushups and pullups, and in the last week I've been swimming every day.

I had to take swimming lessons, because I didn't know what I was doing. It took a few days to get used to the breathing, but now it's not very hard. Now I think it's the absolute best and funnest workout that there is.

Before I started swimming, I could run two miles in about 0:17:22. But after swimming all week, just yesterday I ran two miles in 0:16:16, and it was EASY. Swimming is a miracle workout.

Re:Swimming. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3381672)

That's because it exercises most if not all the major muscle groups in the body. Chicks in bikini's don't hurt either.

Re:Swimming. (0)

CeZa (562197) | more than 12 years ago | (#3383815)

only prob is that is slow... i'd recommend you swimming all week for a few more weeks man, and jogging regularly... my avg 2 mile is 15:04, and that is considered slow (soccer)

Two words (1)

ArcticChicken (172915) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381217)

Pig sticking


Re:Two words (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3381950)

sorry, screwing fat ugly chicks is not something I want to do.

Re:Two words (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3382898)

There's only so much of your mom to go around.

All terrain vehicles. (1)

mini me (132455) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381232)

I enjoy getting out on the snowmobile in the winter and fourwheeler in the summer. They don't give you the exercise level many other activities will give you, but it at least gets you out doors and seeing nature while having a blast and you would be suprised how much exercise you do actually get.

Both are very cost prohibitive though. You're looking into just under $10,000 (and even above) for a fourwheeler or a snowmobile. And that doesn't even include all the other stuff you need.


Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3381622)

ATVs and snowmobiles ought to be banned, in general the jackasses who operate them are inconsiderate morons. I love to crosscountry ski, and my dog got run over by some jackass on a snowmobile who was goin 80 miles an hour off the trail.

Thousands of miles of pristine desert country have been irreplbly marred by morons on snowmobiles.... I could go on for hours, but please if you feel the need to engage in this juvenile pursuit, stay on the roads / trails, stay sober and respect that some people like peace and quiet. Your smoke belching, noise polluting machine might be damaging someone's outdoor experience, try to respect that. And for gods sake, use your feet, thats why gad gave them to you, seeing a deer bounding away 1000 feet away is not nearly the experience of seeing a Peregrine Falcon take a duck right out of the air 50 feet away.


Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3381984)

Fuck you

You don't know how much it can cost to repair a Polaris after hitting some mangy hippy's dog, either. These machines are made to go off road, so why confine them to some damn trail? Pristine desert? Oh please. It's a bunch of dirt, sand, & sage! If some moron wants to run his snowmobile in the desert and ruin the track, that's his expense not mine. I like being able to cover a lot more ground in a day than what is possible on foot. Why do you green fascists insist that everyone revert back to caveman era transport? If you want solitude, get a nice room with lots of sound proofing. If you want to be one with nature, kill yourself and have your buddies turn you into mulch.


Llama Keeper (7984) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382443)

Fuck you back ingrate,

I'm not some mangy hippie, and you just showed your true colors and made all those snowmobiling ATV riding morons look like the clueless assholes they are. If you'd get yer lard ass off yer machine and look at the desert you'd see how amazing and beautiful it is. Sit in the woods/desert/grass/field for 20 minutes and don't move and you'll see how amazing and alive the natural world (especially the desert) is.

My hiking and skiing and other forms of outdoor recreation doesn't impinge on other people's space but yer fucking loud machines do. Thank god we still have wilderness, so there is some peace and quiet.

I'm going to keep putting sugar/sand/karo syrup in gas tanks and cutting spark plug wires till all you fucking obnoxious assholes grow up and learn to respect other people's space.

I'm not a green fascist, I drive a car, I enjoy automobiles, but I don't drive a fucking gas guzzling, road hazardous SUV. I'm pretty happy with the size of my penis and don't feel the need to compensate. I also respect other people's space.

I just wish the ATV'ers and snowmobilers would learn some respect and stay in there confined spaces, they don't understand the effect their machines have.... look up cryptobiotic crust, and see what an ATV can do to the desert environment. Your riding can ruin an eco system for 100 years, and all so you can get your jollies. Fucking rude people piss me off. I respect your right to ride your machine, as long as your respect the place you are riding, but take your ATV off the trail and ruin my forest, and dude its on!


redog (574983) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382762)

Look here Moses, I happen to be one of the "ATV riding morons", and don't know where you get off making such a generalized statement. And If we weren't respecting the forests, as opposed to "your forest" which should be posted No Trespassing, we'd hack/ carve trails through them. Oh wait that is what you travel on. Most of us "clueless assholes" use ATV's to get to untraveled parts of terrain to enjoy it in one way of another. They weren't designed to do circles in confined spaces. Its ashamed that fido got what was coming to him. My dogs don't chase tires nor do they run off like wildlife. Its called training. Seeing as how you will probably own 2 or 3 cars in your lifetime and I will go through 1 ATV, I think its safe to say that you will do way more damage to the planet than me on my ATV. If this "moronic asshole" gets his tires slashed by a tree hugging radical, Ill do the American thing call the police and sue.

Moses huh? (2)

Llama Keeper (7984) | more than 12 years ago | (#3384114)

My generlized statement comes from lots of practical experience. Most of the abuse that I have experienced from ATV's/Snowmobiles are on public land where its illegal to go offtrail. I don't own any private land to speak of, I spend most of my time on BLM/Forest Service/National Parks land. Most of these lands are thank god off-limits to ORV's unfortunately that doesn't seem to stop people from riding there.

Most of you "clueless aassholes" ride too fast, and are inconsiderate of the rest of us that prefer non-motorized activities. Maybe if the participants of your "sport" were less obnoxious and more respectful than those of us that engage in non-motorized activities would be more friendly to your type.

My dog wasn't chasing the snomobile, he was on a groomed cross-country ski trail and popped over the hill and smoked my dog, he was speeding, and intoxicated... I got his license number off his vehicle and sued him and he got fined $50 and didn't even have to pay restitution to pay for my vet bills. Those kind of negative experiences are why some of us who are environmental moderates can get pretty vehemently anti-ORV.

I really doubt I will do more damage to the environment that you will in my lifetime, your argument about me owning 2 or 3 cars is inanane, you'll pbly own as many cars as I will, I don't engage in the use of Off Road Vehicles, I drive a fuel efficient car, not a gas-guzzling SUV like most ATV riders, and I respect the earth.

I've never slashed tires, or done any real damage to anyone's private property, I ust leave nifty little notes on people's windshields.

So please if you feel the need to drive an ATV/ORV stay on the damn trails and respect the laws... whats more American than that.


Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3383217)

I'm going to keep putting sugar/sand/karo syrup in gas tanks and cutting spark plug wires till all you fucking obnoxious assholes grow up and learn to respect other people's space.

Good. And I'll have lots of fun when I catch you. Too bad you won't.


/dev/trash (182850) | more than 12 years ago | (#3383909)

My hiking and skiing and other forms of outdoor recreation doesn't impinge on other people's space but yer fucking loud machines do. Thank god we still have wilderness, so there is some peace and quiet.

Hmmmmm I have seen plenty of walking trails that used to be beautiful grass turned to mud with just 3 or 4 walkers a day


Llama Keeper (7984) | more than 12 years ago | (#3384076)

Yer right that walking, or hiking can cause some adverse effects on trails/ecology, but the point I was making (less than eloquently @ 3AM) was that overall my outdoor activities are much less damaging than motorized outdoor pursuits.

Overall ATV/Snomobile/Jeep/jetski use is a much more "consumeristic" outdoor pursuit. It is much easier to disrespect someone els's space, and tear up the environment when engaging in one of these outdoor activities than when engaging in the type of non-motorized activities that I prefer. If people just stay on the roads and and trails and respect no-wake zones than we can all peacefully co-exist. Unfortunatly in my experience motorized "outdoorsmen" can't seem to do this. When people disrepect the outdoors, my friends and I sometimes disrespect their machines.

My original post (anonymously to preserve karma)was just to throw out the idea to people discovering the outdoors that respecting the space you occupy is important. Respecting other people and their space is generally not what I have experienced from the motorized outdoor community.

Road Cycling (3, Interesting)

mduell (72367) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381287)

Buy a decent pair of roadbikes (or a tandem) and ride as much as you can. Runner's high is an amazing thing after 5 hours in the saddle.

Not Geeky Enough! (2)

fm6 (162816) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381300)

Bicycling is for people who are motivated, physically coordinated, and whose deepest desire is to have a cardiovascular system tougher than vulcanized rubber. Hardly a geeky pursuit (excuse the pun).

Re:Not Geeky Enough! (2, Interesting)

panker (461977) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381313)

Actually I have found cycling to be way geeky enough. Mount a GPS on the handlebars (Garmin eTrex works great) or just a standard cycling computer and there you go. Not to mention all the stuff you can buy for a bike! widgets galore.

Bike Geeks! (2)

John Harrison (223649) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381931)

You obviously haven't met any bike geeks. When I lived in Palo Alto two of the best bike shops in the country were there and they were a bit hit with the geek population. Google HQ is/was very nery to Palo Alto bikes.

Many bike geeks will spend as much time putting exotic parts on their bikes as computer geeks spend making an clear plastic case with a blacklight or OCing.

Disclaimer: I am both a bike geek and a computer geek.

Heresy!!! Bicycles are EVIL!!!! (2)

fm6 (162816) | more than 12 years ago | (#3383425)

It is a well-known fact that bicyclists have tans, physical endurance, low fat-weight ratios, and many other characteristics that are totally incompatible with the True Concept of Geekiness! They try to make up for it by wearking geeky helmets, but that's just a ploy! As are computerized bicycles and little home-make gearshift-efficiency charts!

Maybe I'm just bigoted because of all the times I've nearly been run over by bicyclists. Not just in Palo Alto (where they're allowed to ride on the sidewalks!) but in nearby towns as well. Yell "crosswalk!" or "stop sign!" at them and they just give you the finger. Obvious acolytes of Satan the Yuppie!

On the sidewalks? (2)

John Harrison (223649) | more than 12 years ago | (#3383862)

When I lived in Palo Alto the sidewalks on Univeristy Ave. said, "No Bikes" right on the sidewalk itself. It was spraypainted on each corner. Now, if you are confusing Stanford with Palo Alto, then yes, if you are a pedestrian you had better realize that you are taking your life into your own hands. I back when James Stockdale was Ross Perot's running mate I nearly ran him over near Green Library. If he had simply kept walking it would have been fine, but he spotted me and "tried" to avoid me. Nearly ended in trajedy. :)

biking (1)

ealar dlanvuli (523604) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381341)

Get a nice decent quality mtn bike (around 300$) and use it any time you would normally drive within 5 miles of your house. I started doing this in college, and it's a very efficent way to stay in shape.

I wouldn't try to do more than 2 miles a day if your really out of shape, but if you bike regularly you will be able to do 30+ miles really quickly. It's my favorite type of exercise, and it's quit fun. I normally only have to use my car every 2 or three days, or when I am in a rush.

Rock Climbing (1)

LastToKnow (449735) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381360)

Not terribly geeky, but I climb all the time, and its amazing how fast it gets you in shape. Or at least builds up your arms. And its definately got that "I'm going to figure out how to get past this" mentality.

Re:Rock Climbing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3383257)

either that or you die. Maybe more people should take up this sport, so more idiots will die.

Shooting sports (1)

Hackboy (5933) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381419)

Gun games like IPSC [] or IDPA [] are full of geeks. There is plenty of cool equipment to tinker with. And while it takes years to master, once you know a few simple safety rules almost anyone can enjoy it.

If you want something a little less politically incorrect, there are always the service rifle [] competitons put on by the Civilian Marksmanship Program and the NRA [] .

Lots of things! (3, Insightful)

RevAaron (125240) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381437)

Call me crazy, but just because I'm a geek, it doesn't mean I have to be some lazy tard that can't do anything but drink coffee and read 'blogs.' Maybe I'm abnormal, but I do things outside of using a computer.

I camp. I walk a lot. I bike a lot. I go take naps in the woods. I garden. I hike. I program on my iBook or my iPAQ (with Squeak) while sitting in the woods, having had to hike a few miles to get to a nice place to sit.

For the biking and walking, I don't go out of my way to do it. It's just part of the way I live. When there's not snow on the ground, it's my main method of getting around. I suppose that's not possible if you're living in some gigantic post-apocalyptic hell hole, though.

And for the other things, I live in a very green town, with lots of nice big parts and a sanctioned green-belt, so taking naps in the woods isn't extraordinary. Just a way of life. :)

Now, I suppose some people really strive for their activities to be labeled as something a 'geek' would do, trying to live that 'cool' middle school clique feeling that they may have missed out on the first time around. Can't say I identify with that, but to each her own.

So, I suppose you could make the above activities 'geeky' by bringing a PDA and doing something useful with it. If you're not going to do something useful with it, however, do yourself a favor and leave it at home.

For instance, I'll write a bunch of code on my iPAQ. May not be as practical for others, but the programming environment I use on my desktop is the same one I use on my PDA, so code flows back and forth easily, and I can work on the same problems as if I were at my desk. Some people think it's some disgrace to "Nature" to program in the middle of a forest. Frankly, I find it beautiful and peaceful. Especially after a mind-clearing hike. And it sure beats being stuck inside on a beautiful spring day!

Most importantly- have fun!

Re:Lots of things! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3381619)

So after you take naps in the woods, how long do you spend picking off tick and creeping/crawling things that decide to make you their next home?

Re:Lots of things! (2)

RevAaron (125240) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382072)

Not very often. Not been to the woods many time, have you?

Ticks are very common in grassy areas. Laying down on a bed of pine needles is not really tick territory. You're far more likely to get ticks by walking through prarie-type grasslands. However, in field work in wetlands, I've taken offf 40+ ticks in a day...

Re:Lots of things! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3383191)

Actually I have and each trip requires an de-infestation cleaning session and I don't even sit down on anything. Your woods must have a lack of them. Either that or they don't like the way you smell.

Re:Lots of things! (2)

RevAaron (125240) | more than 12 years ago | (#3384094)

Pretty ticky area around here. They don't usually inhabit trees, but grasses. Also, the kinds of woods I'd usually take naps in are in parts of the greenbar of this town. Middle of a city with 100k people, but miles of beautiful wooded area right next to my house.

The Confluence Project (4, Interesting)

Raetsel (34442) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381445)

Check out The Degree Confluence Project []

Since most of the easily accessible locations have been photographed already, getting a 'new' point on the map (one that hasn't been visited or attempted) will require a significant period of interface with a non-virtual world.

It'll even exercise your diplomatic interpersonal skills, as some of the 'attempted' sites are on reservations -- since they're a sovereign nation, they can require permits for a visit. Heck, even getting onto private land can be interesting.

  • ( i.e.
  • "You want to do WHAT? Yeah, right buddy! What are you really here for??? )
Fortunately, there is a form letter [] that you can print and take with you to convince the skeptical.

( Personally, I'd love to do some of the sites in Montana [] . )

Re:The Confluence Project (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3381660)

Just bring along a couple cases of beer and the Indians won't care. The sovereign nation status is pretty fucking funny since they are 100% dependent and the Federal Govt. Also, why in the hell do they get to vote in US elections if they are their own nation? The sovereign nation crap is just used to weasel out state and local laws and regulations. Take away Federal assistance and repeal the laws allowing casinos and these bastards would cease to exist.

Montana is a cool state, but you green fascists [] should just stay in your fucking metro areas and leave everyone else alone.

Geek + outdoors? (1)

wrinkledshirt (228541) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381546)

Reminds me of a great Aislin cartoon. There's a couple on the beach having a picnic. He brought some gear with him.

He: Lovely! Our CD & stereo system, portable television, cell phone and portable fax, personal stock ticker and thou. What more could one want?

She: A power failure.

Aislin (2)

fm6 (162816) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382911)

Sure it was Aislin? Not nasty enough [] .

Leave your Toys at home (3, Insightful)

Llama Keeper (7984) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381604)

As an avid outdoorsman, (I rock climb, mountainbike, kayak (tour and whitewater), backpack, and love to take outdoor photographs) my biggest bitch is people who bring radios, laptops, cell phones and shit outdoors. Most of us who spent lots of time outdoors do it to escape and get away from the damn call phone and people in general. Please, when you are out enjoying the outdoors leave your friggin electronics and shit at home and try roughing it.

If you feel the need to bring a radio or something have the decency to keep it turned down and stay the F*ck away from other people.

I recently went on a 70 mile river flaot trip and the experience was lessened by some damn collge kids with a radio and the audacity to camp like 100 feet from us. We had a hell of a good time sneaking up to their camp site at laughing as they made dinner... what a riot

Please leave your toys at home or figure out how to keep them from being noisy, I go to the wwods to get away not listen to your damn electronics... and I am a serious geek during the week.

Not geeky, or american but Cricket is fun (2)

F1re (249002) | more than 12 years ago | (#3381961)

I get outdoors and play cricket.

It's not always a lot of excersise but standing in in a field waiting for a ball to come your way is very relaxing and strangly peaceful.

For fitness there is always indoor cricket but that's a different story...

A couple of options I enjoy... (3, Informative)

Lancer (32120) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382114)

Radio Control airplanes are a lot of fun. Lots of cool gear (you should see some of the computerized radios [] available), gets you a tan (but with minimal exertion), and can fulfill your "need for speed".

My wife and I also took up kite flying together. Before you envision some sedate, lazy, K-Mart delta kite flying (though that can be fun as well), we're flying stunt kites, such as these [] or these [] . Some of these are made of fairly exotic materials for extremely light weights, while others pull like trucks. It's even possible to go for a ride with them - three-wheel trikes and hard-pulling kites make for some fast trips across beaches and dry lakebeds [] .

Hope this piques your interest!

Re:A couple of options I enjoy... (1)

RapaNui (242132) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382922)

I agree totally.

I fly R/C Sailplanes, and this is great not only for getting outdoors, but also involves (If you so choose) a fair bit of theoretical work (Aerodynamics, structures, etc), _and_ getting your hands dirty with building (Either wood, or for the fancy stuff, carbon fiber, kevlar, etc.). Also some electronics and software (if you use one of the neat computerized radios). And can fulfil the _need_for_speed_.
(The world speed record for R/C sailplanes is around 390 Km/h -- 243 mph).

Check Here [] for some info.

R/C Gliders... yeah! (1)

Waiting (28304) | more than 12 years ago | (#3383891)

R/C gliders are definitely a geek sport. And with the new EPP (Expanded Polypropylene) gliders, you can get started without all the nasty balsa stuff. And, your first "landing" won't send you back to the shop for weeks.

And then there is Dynamic Soaring, where you can reach ungodly speeds (100 mph is routine). And don't forget slope combat, for you Quake playing folks... intentional mid-air collisions: yee haw!

Re:A couple of options I enjoy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3383273)

why would you want a tan? It's just damaging your skin, making you susecptible to skin cancer and wrinkles earlier in life. Only Madison Ave. and their brainwashed minions think that it makes you look better.

Went for variety (2, Informative)

Baloo Ursidae (29355) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382310)

I've been an Asst. Scoutmaster for my Scout troop for a little over 2 years now, since I turned 18 and couldn't be a Scout any more. It gets me outside, rock climbing, camping, boating, and a lot of other cost prohibitive or hard to get to activities. highly recommended for former Scouts or for someone willing to put forth a bit of elbow grease..

Beware of the Day-Star!! (1)

iie1195 (208357) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382469)

I'm not kidding!


SCUBA opens a whole new realm of toys (2, Informative)

dsoltesz (563978) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382494)

My SO and I love to SCUBA dive, and part of the joy is the toys! We both have wireless dive computers, so we can download our dive data, graph it, analyze it, post it to the web if we were so inclined. Plus, we have underwater photography equipment, and there's numerous SCUBA-tech-toys we don't have, like the masks with wireless mikes and speakers that would let us chat while diving. If you start small and work your way up, SCUBA's not very expensive. Or, if you have $3K to $5K to blow, you can go whole hog and be tekked out all at once.

Hiking (or "taking the digital camera and GPS for a stroll" if you prefer) is another favorite. Four-wheeling and boating are other favorites that allow us to get before-during-after geekiness in (generating custom maps, GPS, digital camera). We also enjoy gardening (geek toys: self-installed programmable automatic watering system, digital camera again, and we're working on "bird feeder cams").

Of course, some of what we get out of all this is that there are perfectly interesting non-geeks to meet (I have the digital photos to prove there really are non-geeks in the world!).

Re:SCUBA opens a whole new realm of toys (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3383294)

Four-wheeling and boating! Polluting the land _and_ water! Shame on you! Don't you know you're supposed to do it on foot or some other old-fashioned hard way? Those radio frequencies are probably harming aquatic life too. Technology is the curse of the planet.

Don't go outdoors (4, Funny)

codexus (538087) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382509)

The sun will burn your face with its UV radiation. In this season, you might get pollen poisoining too. And worst of all, you might actually meet real people! (you know, the strange kind that just stares at you when you want to discuss the merits of the preemptive linux kernel).

And if these aren't enough to convinve you. Think about all the things you can do with your computer instead of wasting time "outdoors".

Figures. (5, Funny)

JediTrainer (314273) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382793)

59 comments and nobody states the obvious. You have a wife and you want exercise.

What about sex? It can be done indoors or out in a variety of locations and positions, in private or in public (depends on how bold you are I suppose), and is very good for your health. You'd get your daily heart-rate boost, in addition to improving your married life (your relationship with your wife).

And you'll make virtually the entire /. population jealous and horny just for mentioning it.

Re:Figures. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3383177)

He probably wants to get more exercise than that 1 minute burst and the wife unit wants to do something she enjoys.

look into BDSM (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3383911)

It's more athletic usually that "straight" sex, it has all kinds of equipment and paraphrenalia to geek out over,and usually requires more knowledge and awareness than your average cock-in-hole interaction, two attributes we as geeks possess in spades. Even if you aren't into the whole pain thing, light bondage turns a lot of people on. Plus, there is a lot of historical precedent in the geek community for BDSM sexuality: who do you think came up with the idea of Master and Slave ide devices?

Hashing!!! (1)

hfcs (22012) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382800)

Go do a Hash Run, the main activity of the Hash House Harriers [] . They're a self described 'drinking group with a running problem...' and there are local chapters world-wide.

Around here, a hash run is a 4 mile (give-or-take) hounds-and-hare run, that can go through woods, neighborhoods, office parks, fields, etc., usually w/ just enough time to rest if you're not one of the strong running front-runner types. There are usually a couple of beer breaks (with non-beer too, if that's your thing). It's a pretty geeky, very fun crowd. So go find a local chapter [] and go for a run.


Sailing! (2, Informative)

cleancut (16625) | more than 12 years ago | (#3382821)

Sailing is plenty geeky. I mean really now, you're powering a craft by wind. There are tons of details you constantly have to consider. Geeks love details, and they love to think.

Should you need exercise, sail on a Hobiecat. On a windy day, it feels like you're going fast, and trust me, when you're leaning out over the water hanging from your trapiese you're getting tons of exercise.

While Hobie's are cool, they're not designed for beginners. A sunfish is great fun learning. Should you want exercise, flip it intentionally. Sunfishes are near trivial to right, and pretty fun boats to sail. (For those who don't know, a sunfish is a tiny sailboat which can reasonably accomodate one or two people for an afternoon.)

if ya can. (1)

BenTheDewpendent (180527) | more than 12 years ago | (#3383593)

get your self a raft (with frame and cooler), kyak (hardshell or inflateable). Find a river and go on a 2 day float. Pick a strech of river that you can handle.

Float for a day then find a place to camp. Play with your gps, laptop, palm, digital camera.... (gonna need a dry bag or pellican case.) sleep. Repeat until you are at destintaion...

What about Airsoft? (3, Interesting)

jahalme (563074) | more than 12 years ago | (#3383963)

A couple of my friends and I have found airsoft to be a very nice way to have fun and get some excercise at the same time. This hobby is _very_ popular in Japan, but has recently started gaining momentum in Europe and America as well.

The basic nature of airsoft is quite similar to that of paintball - one team must, using a gun shooting non-lethal ammunition, either eliminate the opposing team or accomplish a pre-defined objective. The main differences of airsoft are the facts that airsoft guns shoot 6mm plastic BBs that do not leave paint marks and that the guns are extremely accurate replicas of actual firearms. Because the plastic BB is not as volatile as a paintball, airsoft guns are capable of fully-automatic fire - some at a rate of over 1200rd/min! Also, because the plastic BB is relatively light (usually 0.2g) and the muzzle velocity is usually at around 100m/sec (~300fps), they are quite safe to use in close quarters combat - paintballs tend to make very ugly welts when shot from close distance.

From a geek's point of view, the above facts introduce some very interesting elements. The realistic appearance of airsoft guns gives incredible opportunities to simulate situations in computer games and movies! Have you ever wanted to pull two H&K MP5Ks underneath a long black jacket and blast away? Or jumpdodge over a sofa, firing with two Berettas and grinning like a maniac? How about some live-action Rainbow Six? The possibilities are endless!

At least here in Turku, Finland, the local players get together every week to play short games with simple objectives, such as defending a building/hill/other location, planting/defusing a bomb or just plain capture the flag. Every summer there are some bigger games with a more complicated scenario and up to 200 players in some cases. Some games even introduce some light role-playing elements to the game for additional realism and atmosphere.

There is plenty of information about airsoft on the net, but here are a few pointers to get you started;
Ilendil's airsoft page []
Arnie's Airsoft []
AirsoftZone []

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