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New Preview of Neverwinter Nights

Hemos posted more than 12 years ago | from the must-wipe-droll-from-mouth dept.

Games 234

H3resy wrote to us with a new preview of Neverwinter Nights. The game continues to look great - and combined with its release date being right around Warcraft III, I suspect sleep will not be an option.

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Sign this petition! (-1)

Klerck (213193) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418466)

"The Two Towers is offensive! [petitiononline.com]

Re:Sign this petition! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418548)

Hmmm...... this was announced before those thingies fell down. Dumbshoes.

Dear Professor Linux... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418639)

Dear Professor Linux,

How can I keep from soiling myself with indignation every time I hear wee French referred to as "cheese-eating surrender monkeys"?

Jean-Marie LePen *told* us we shouldn't be our usual smug French selves when we laughed about the Florida recount!

Sacre bleu!

Sincerely,
Francois

Re:Sign this petition! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418640)

Obviously a troll and/or joke... Kinda funny, actually. You should tell people like HardOCP or The Onion who like this kinda fluff.

alternate platforms (0)

Niksie3 (222515) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418471)

we need more games for alternate platforms like macosx, linux, *bsd, etc.

Too bad loki went under.

Re:alternate platforms (5, Informative)

Loligo (12021) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418498)

we need more games for alternate platforms like macosx, linux, *bsd, etc.

According to the NWN faq [bioware.com] , the box will contain media for Windows, Linux, and MacOS.

-l

Re:alternate platforms (1)

Bluetick (516014) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418602)

It's also coming out for BeOS I think, I think what he meant was that we need more games like NWN which support multiple platforms.

Really nice if it'll contain support for all the different OSes, as I have several PCs and Macs in my house running different OSes. I think Blizzard is the only other company I can think of that makes games with both PC/Mac versions in one box. They of course release the PC version, and when the Mac version comes out they release a PC/Mac version.

Re:alternate platforms (3, Informative)

Loligo (12021) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418623)

>It's also coming out for BeOS I think

No, the link I posted clearly says the BeOS version will not be finished.

-l

No BeOS (1)

StupidKatz (467476) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418627)

Quoth the FAQ [bioware.com] , "the BeOS version of Neverwinter Nights will not be completed."

Bummer.

Re:alternate platforms (3, Interesting)

tempest303 (259600) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418635)

the box will contain media for Windows, Linux, and MacOS

And it's for this reason exactly that I'll be picking up THIS game before a lot of others. Linux support IN THE BOX. Major kudos to bioware for this!

This makes me wonder... did they use SDL by any chance? (Not being a programmer, I realize that might be a horribly silly question, but I thought it was worth asking)

Re:alternate platforms (5, Informative)

LMCBoy (185365) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418728)

It is great that it's coming out for Mac and Linux at the same time as Windows. However, be aware that the toolset (which is what really sets NWN apart from, well, everything) is Windows-only.

Re:alternate platforms (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418761)

Score2?

WTF?

What the hell does that got to do with whether or not it uses SDL?

Re:alternate platforms (0, Flamebait)

talon77 (410766) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418509)

No, we don't.

Re:alternate platforms (2, Interesting)

Jacer (574383) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418511)

yes indeed, but Neverwinter is going to run on linux out of the box! that's so awesome, no pesky binaries, no unsupported installs, no downloading other installers, right out of the box i'm not sure if there are two different versions, or one kick ass version, but either way, it's a huge step in the right direction....we don't need another loki to rise our hopes and then go bankrupt, we need a black isle (partially because they make the best games ever, period!) with the forsight to include linux versions, NOT linux ports.....

Re:alternate platforms (2, Insightful)

JanneM (7445) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418554)

Um, first it's Bioware that makes it, not Black Isle (they have nothing to do with this game). Second, be aware that the editor will not run under Linux or Mac. Hopefully, Wine will be able to run it at some point, but as the 'creature browser' available for downoad does not, it seems it won't yet.

/Janne

Re:alternate platforms (1)

carlos_benj (140796) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418708)

Um, first it's Bioware that makes it, not Black Isle (they have nothing to do with this game).

Seeing as the poster acknowledged a Linux version in the box I'm pretty certain the reference to Black Isle was that it would be nice if some other companies (like Black Isle) would take a cue from Bioware.

I'm not a gamer but I can read in context....

Re:alternate platforms (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418571)

I agree that it's great the BIOWARE is creating Neverwinter Nights. Here's some info for you:

Registrant:
Interplay Productions (BLACKISLE-DOM)
16815 Von Karman Avenue
Irvine, CA 92606-4920
US

Domain Name: BLACKISLE.COM

Registrant:
BioWare Corp.
#302, 10508 - 82 Avenue
Edmonton, AB T6E 6H2
CA

Domain Name: BIOWARE.COM

One of these things is not like the other.

NEWS BREAK: SLASHDOT SUCKS ASS (-1, Offtopic)

cheese_wallet (88279) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418477)

Podunk, Idaho (Reuters) Slashdot readers around the world have taken notice to the tragic decline of the once entertaining and enlightening website, SLASHDOT.ORG.

"The fact of the matter is that I just don't feel up to the job anymore," CmdrTaco said, on condition of anonymity.

"I used to wake up in the morning and be realy excited about the days work. I'd hop out of bed and put on my leather bondage get-up, and prepare to render the day's submissions into submission. But I lost the leather mask, and the rest of the outfit just doesn't work without it.

"I have this old bull whip, and after every anti-microsoft submission that was accepted, I would yell 'Who's Yo Daddy!' while cracking the whip. Sometimes during these celebratory episodes I'd even run around with a broom between my legs, pretending it was a horse.

"But without the outfit and mask, the whip isn't as exciting, the broom is just a broom, and I just can't do it anymore. Now I just accept the first submission on the list, and don't bother reading it."

Re:NEWS BREAK: SLASHDOT SUCKS ASS (-1, Troll)

Dirty Pickle (576372) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418533)

FUCK.

I just made this account.
This is the first ever post with this account.

And I love you.

Re:NEWS BREAK: SLASHDOT SUCKS ASS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418564)

I want to clean your pickle, but I'm not sure how.

Re:NEWS BREAK: SLASHDOT SUCKS ASS (-1, Troll)

Dirty Pickle (576372) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418572)

Moderation Totals: Troll=2, Total=2.

Off to a good start, eh?

Re:NEWS BREAK: SLASHDOT SUCKS ASS (-1, Offtopic)

Dirty Pickle (576372) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418711)

BRING IT THE FUCK ON, MODS.

I can't be bargained with. I can't be reasoned with. I don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And I absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

Flash! (0, Troll)

clambert (519009) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418478)

Gotta love those full page flash ads that don't leave the screen. Ever.

Re:Flash! (4, Funny)

Chiasmus_ (171285) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418527)

You know what annoys me, is that when IE pops up the window saying "Do you want to install and run Flash 6.0?", there's no checkbox saying "Never ask me this again." Or, better yet, saying "NO, FOR FUCK'S SAKE, I HATE FLASH, AND IF I COULD TRAVEL BACK IN TIME AND SLIP AN ABORTIFACIENT INTO EACH OF MACROMEDIA'S ENGINEERS' MOTHERS' DRINKS, I WOULD."

(And I'd like that button for Comet Cursor even more...)

Re:Flash! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418607)

rofl

you hate flash and have a big honkin swf on your user info website

Mod parent up (1)

rasactive (528598) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418611)

That sent a hearty chuckle through me.

Re:Flash! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418732)

Wow. You used the possessive apostrophe correctly all three times in your last sentence. Who knew that posting on /. and proper grammar weren't mutually exclusive?

think the release date is final this time? (1)

JeanBaptiste (537955) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418481)

how long have we been waiting? ...at least Dungeon Siege will tide me over until then... what diablo 2 should have been...


--Charlton Heston is my president

Re:think the release date is final this time? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418592)

shutup faggot go play in traffic you pile of rat shit mother fucking whore. fuck you.

I dont know what is worse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418604)

the time you have on your hands to post that message, or the time I must have on my hands to respond...
dumbass

beta test (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418486)

You can sign up for the beta test at betatests.net as well.

Just in: NWN beta test slashdotted (1)

StupidKatz (467476) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418518)

Arg! I just registered there yesterday. Dammit, there goes my chance of being a beta tester.

Thanks a lot! :P

Re:Just in: NWN beta test slashdotted (2)

Cyph (240321) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418663)

Don't worry, you don't have a chance in becoming a beta tester anyway. According to a post by one of the NWN developers on their forums the other day, they have 30 something thousands requests already. And that was just on the day the beta test launched, which was Monday, the 22nd.

Re:Just in: NWN beta test slashdotted (1)

Drakin (415182) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418715)

Actually, the beta tests have't been launched. Just the resistratio for the beta tests. Who gets to beta test won't be known until at least monday.

Re:beta test (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418637)

No, you can't. It's down. Er, they've already chosen beta testers. I mean, they're not doing a beta test phase.

That is, stay the hell away from that website, I want to beta test, dammit!

Re:beta test (5, Funny)

Spoons (26950) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418650)

You can sign up for the beta test at betatests.net as well.

If I had mod points, I would mod you down. Too Informative: -1

Now there is no way I a going to make the beta. Thanks a lot. :(

Re:beta test (2)

56ker (566853) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418738)

Who cares? It's only a beta - it'll probably crash just as you're getting addicted!

slashdot gripes version 1.01 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418487)

- posters that spell Microsoft with a $ or spell it MicroCrap or something.
- posters that glorify a feature that Linux has that BSD or Solaris as had for years, and list this reason as the most important reason to switch over
- posters that say Slackware is better because "you have to compile all of the applications for yourself"
- Rob Malda's arrogance
- frequent spelling and grammar mistakes. I'm not talking something really obscure or a minor technicallity in English, either. I'm talking substituting "loose" for "lose" or "they're"/"their"/"there". Really easily corrected mistakes. Any halfway decent fifth grader could pick up on these errors.
- people that post a mirror to a site that has been Slashdotted, which normally would be nice, but is hosted on a cable modem that is soon Slashdotted
- page widening
- random quashing of posts that don't agree with the Slashdot mindset.
- really annoying sigs
- unhumorous jokes that have to be "explained" to the audience. If your joke has to be explained, it's not funny.
- "BOYCOTT RIAA" and "I can't wait to see Episode II!" all in the same day.
- Rob Malda's childish obsession with legos.
- the Slashdot crew doesn't have any other jobs other than Slashdot, yet it seems it was better run when Rob was running it on a Multia in college in his spare time.
- the "page limit" with the subscription.
- The expulsion of Signal 11.
- ranting, paranoid articles whenever there APPEARS to be a GPL violation, with no verification whatsoever. Just a bunch of ranting posts about freedom.
- for that matter, no verification of articles at all. I wish I could count the number of times Slashdot's been scammed on two hands, but it's been so many.
- April Fool's articles on Slashdot. THESE AREN'T FUNNY. I wasn't going to explain, but whatever. Okay, let's say you run a website. On April Fool's, you post, say, ONE or TWO fake pieces of news along with the real news. This way, some people are fooled. By posting ALL fake news and "jokes", no one falls for the prank.
- no one buys Loki's games, but there is a big mystery when they go out of business.
- no NNTP frontend to Slashdot.
- direct links to bugzilla
- continuing tightening of the "troll filters" to the point where even normal posts are rejected by some stupid criteria
- self righteous posters who want everything under the sun to be Open Source, even though they have never written a line of code in their life
- whenever an article on a new scripting language is posted, all of the C users chime in "but it's not as fast as C". shortly after, all the assembly users chime in "assembly is the fastest". predictably, right after that, someone says "why don't we all just use machine code?"
- anecdotes on your grandmother using Linux to check her email and whatnot. this ALONE proves that Linux is better than Windows for ALL uses.
- cult-like devotion to Linux. reserve your fanaticism for a church, not a kernel.
- someone is not less of a person if they don't use Unix.
- posters who think that BeOS is having "a bad moment" and will surely rise to defeat all other operating systems
- posters who think Palm will open the source to BeOS for no reason at all
- people who think that Amiga isn't dead. The new virtual Amiga doesn't count.
- people who think that OS/2 isn't dead. 'Ecomstation' doesn't count.
- people who bemoan the loss of OS/2 while thinking it was a big conspiracy, completely IGNORING the fact that IBM did not advertise. we all KNOW OS/2 was technically superior to Windows at the time. You don't have to bedazzle us with tales of "running all the latest Windows and DOS applications aside native OS/2 apps". We've heard it all before. We know it WAS better.
- people who think that this is the last year ever we'll ever have to hire C++ programmers, because as we all know, Java is going to "kill it off"
- this is a good one. Completely expositionary articles such as "Surprised by Weath" in which ESR BRAGGED about how rich he was and how he wasn't going to give us any money. NO SIR.
- bitchslapping
- benchmarks that pit, say, Linux (lastest revision) against FreeBSD 3.0 or something old and useless.
- how banner ads for the site only link to other OSDN sites
- any links to nytimes.com
- when someone writes a comment with ^H to signify deletions
- the moderation $rtbl
- meta moderation
- people that spell Red Hat as "RedCrap"

jesus loves you! (-1)

Anonymous Cowrad (571322) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418492)

Well, he used to.

He thinks you're a fag for reading slashdot, though.

Toolkit (1)

clambert (519009) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418494)

Wow, it actually looks like this game will have a user-friendly editor. I'd love to see some screenshots of the toolkit interfaces...have any been released?

Re:Toolkit (3, Interesting)

EFGearman (245715) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418543)

Cool. What I want to see is well done versions of some of the early D&D dungeons, like 'Tomb of Horrors' or the entire Bloodstone series.

EFGearman

Re:Toolkit (2)

geekoid (135745) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418636)

I plan on doing the Giant Series. yeah yeah I know there using forgotten realm(blech) but I dare you to stop me from doing Greyhawk modules!

Re:Toolkit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418695)

Is that legal? Can't TSR claim a copyright infraction(sp?) by you digitally creating a dungeon they published and sold?

Re:Toolkit (2)

geekoid (135745) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418730)

Yes

Re:Toolkit (1)

kellin (28417) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418756)

Actually, its no longer TSR. Its Wizards of the Coast ;)

Re:Toolkit (1)

kellin (28417) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418667)

Ugh. A tomb of horrors style NWN realm would be *sickening*. But I bet it would be fun ;)

i am a PHP interpreter! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418689)

chris@php.net

fifth post! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418496)

Yeah. Suck it.

slashad, whee (-1, Troll)

tps12 (105590) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418499)

Hey, look, more ads on slashdot. Can I pay for this with my slashdot account? Thanks, this is so convenient, it has become my new digital hub and Internet portal for Information and Entertainment. The hub of my virtual world!

Wow!

Too bad CmdrTaco will not be able to play this game, as he does not have a computer with Windows on it, nor does he know anyone who has one. Because he is a dyed in the wool Linux fan.

Re:slashad, whee (1)

JanneM (7445) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418524)

You do know it's coming out for Mac and Linux as well (in the same box, no less), don't you?

/Janne

Re:slashad, whee (1)

tps12 (105590) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418575)

Oh, I didn't know that. Thank you for the hedz-up, dude. I have 1 Mac and 2 386 Linuces, so I am set in that regard. Nevertheless, it will not play on my Alpha NetBSD box, will it? No, probably not, unless there is a 386 emulator for it (there is already Linux binary compatability!), but that would be hella slow.

Now that I think of it, it is probably 3d graphics, and won't run on my Pentium (laptop) or my old Mac either (it is mad old...back when Macs were Macs and came w/SCSI...hells yeah) so I will have to play it on my Athlon.

But I don't really like games anyway. Who cares.

Runs on 3 platforms out of the box (1)

StupidKatz (467476) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418557)

The NWN site states that the game will run on windows, Mac, and linux out of the box.

Read it here. [bioware.com]

Re:Runs on 3 platforms out of the box (2, Interesting)

Thenomain (537937) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418734)

They say "Mac", but they don't say whether it's MacOS 8/9 or MacOS X, or both. Curious Minds Want To Know.

Oh My My My (3, Funny)

DCram (459805) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418503)

I have been a Mud fiend for years now and have always wanted to have a "GUI" one. When EQ came out I was disapointed. I have always thought games will be games and the Mud will be the end all to my role playing.

I hope that all changes with this game. I have such high hopes and I know a ton of fellow Mud people who think the same. Everything looks great and the scripting and DM capabilities...WOW.

I will never sleep again.

NWN != MUD. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418587)

The closest MMORPG to a MUD will always be Everquest. The entire design spec for EQ was around DikuMUD. It was so closely related to skills / mobs / pets /NPCs people actually thought they USED DikuMUD source code for the base. But they did it from scratch in anyways.



NWN is a Single / Multiplayer RPG. It is not billed as a MMORPG to compete or even come close to games like MUDs/EQ/DAoC/etc .. It will allow you to create your own modules based around the 3rd edition AD&D ruleset and play them in either single player or multiplayer. The big draw for this game is that someone can actually be the DM in real-time as your little group of friends connect to YOUR hosted game on your machine while you can take control of the NPCs and initate dialogue, etc. They claim to have all the AD&D rules, and items and mobs available in the game, and for anyone to be able to recreate any module ever written. It will be some feat, but it will take AD&D from the tabletop directly to the PC. Again, this is nothing near a MUD/EQ, and never was meant to be.

Re:NWN != MUD. (2, Interesting)

DCram (459805) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418610)

Oh I agree that it will not be a MMO but I have never enjoyed Muds with more than 75 people.

I also played EQ and was disapointed. I have coded, read source and not world, on both Emlen and Diku style Muds and still think that if the scripting is good enough this will be better than EQ and much closer to a mud in my mind.

Re:Oh My My My (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418654)

As thrilled as some are with the graphics, I can't reconcile in my mind that what my imagination of a text piece of equipment would look like in someone else's graphic rendering. Rather like reading a series of books which then makes it to TV/Film and seeing who they cast doesn't fit how you imagined it. Not really a big deal, though I think for pure flexibility it's still hard to beat a good mud client and a decent mud.

Considering some of the groups I've been in, the screen would get a tad crowded, seems like single or limited player ability is the strong suit.

There was a GUI D&D game someone came up with about 10 years ago, pretty good looking, and would certainly benifit from today's crop of graphic cards, with an absolutely staggering variety of equipment and places to hang it on yourself. I only played it a couple times. With a large number of variables the learning curve increases, and IMHO the game had a pretty steep one.

Equipment in use:
<Worn on body>Six feet of dirt and a small monument.

Neverwinter Nights (0, Funny)

EricBoyd (532608) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418505)

aka Never-Release Nights

Websurfing done right! StumbleUpon [stumbleupon.com]

What's so special about this game (-1)

Rock 'N' Troll (566273) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418525)

What's so special about this game? It's been on ./ 73 times already, and honestly, I think it looks like pure shit.

Re:What's so special about this game (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418615)

it runs on LUNIX!

Re:What's so special about this game (-1)

Rock 'N' Troll (566273) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418672)

So does Sopwith, what's the point?

Good news! (4, Informative)

awptic (211411) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418531)

I didn't see mention of this in the article; just wanted to mention that a Linux version of this game will be released at the same time the Windows version does! It's nice to see gaming companies are taking Linux seriously as a gaming platform.

Re:Good news! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418657)

Yes, but will they improve 3d performance for my old RIVA TNT under Linux to match my Windows performance? Unfortunately, this is 95% of the reason that I can't make the switch.

Re:Good news! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418719)

newsflash:

A Riva TNT is an old chip. It will play new 3d games like shit on any OS.

Do your self a favor and pick up an new video card.
Pricewatch has geforce2MXs for 30 bucks.

Re:Good news! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418664)

According to the FAQ, the game will not only be released at the same time, but it will be on the same CD.

Re:Good news! (5, Interesting)

stefanlasiewski (63134) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418691)

Not only that, but the Windows, Linux & Macintosh versions all come in the SAME BOX [bioware.com] , so we
dual-boosters can try it out on both systems.

The downside here is that Bioware may have trouble determining the number of users who use Linux vs Windows vs Macintosh. So remember: if you use Linux, remember find the little postcard, check the box next to 'Linux' and send it off.

Otherwise, they'll never know...

Re:Good news! (2)

vondo (303621) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418752)

Do you have any evidence that this is still their plan?

The last time I went looking on their site for info, they talked about Windows only as a requirement. I'm wondering if they've backed off of this plan.

I haven't seen any mention from them about Linux in at least 6 months.

Under system requirements they say "Other [than Windows] OS requirements coming later."

If they release for Windows and Linux, I'll buy it in a heartbeat. Otherwise, I'll wait.

Makes multiplayer AD&D rpgs any sense ? (4, Interesting)

Krapangor (533950) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418540)

There are two options:
  1. Turn based - this means that you can screw any human player of the game by just taking "enough time" for a turn.
  2. Real time - this reduces to strategic AD&D concept to Diablo style brainless monster wacking.
So I wonder why they are so keen on providing multiplayer abilities for NeverWinterNights.
And why does one play an rpg anyway ?
For the story of course ! Has anyone here played Baldurs Gate, Pools of Radiance (the old, non sucking one), Ultima or Wizardry for monster wacking ?
And don't object with "Diablo". If Diablo is an rpg then Quake is a flight simulator.

"Real time", but with new approaches (4, Informative)

StupidKatz (467476) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418595)

The FAQ [bioware.com] states that they are well aware of the low-ping click-fest that many real-time multiplayer games have turned into. It also states how they're using a "multilayered" approach to combat, where you default to using a basic attack unless you stack up additional moves in your combat queue.

Sounds a lot like how Star Wars: Galaxies is doing theirs. I'm interested to see how it works out.

Re:Makes multiplayer AD&D rpgs any sense ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418620)

Quake is a flight sim?!? Why did no one ever show me where the secret Mechit-LAM is??

Re:Makes multiplayer AD&D rpgs any sense ? (2)

LMCBoy (185365) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418700)

NWN gets around the problems you've outlined by using both methods at once: it's a real-time, turn-based system. That is, it's turn based in that you tell your character what to do, and then they do it. It's real-time in that there's no pause (in multiplayer), and if you don't tell your char to do anything, they'll do some default action when it's their turn.

Incidentally, the turns are rather long (a few seconds), so it definitely won't be a clickfest.

Re:Makes multiplayer AD&D rpgs any sense ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418723)

And why does one play an rpg anyway ?
For the story of course ! Has anyone here played Baldurs Gate, Pools of Radiance (the old, non sucking one), Ultima or Wizardry for monster wacking ?
And don't object with "Diablo". If Diablo is an rpg then Quake is a flight simulator.


It's all a matter of personal preference really. I got back into reading some of my old Dragonlance books and thought it'd be fun to play a fantasy video game. I picked up Baldurs Gate II and was thoroughly bored with it in less than 30 minutes. It took too long to even get out of the tutorial much less figure out how to actually play it. It was basically just too difficult to figure out how to play without reading the 300 page manual over and over and then sitting there and concentrating on what the stupid NPCs were talking about. Thankfully that same day I came across an unopened copy of Diablo II I had bought last year and never got around to playing. I installed that and sat for the next 6 hours happily playing and developing my character. Anyway, IMHO Diablo II is a LOT more fun than Baldurs Gate II is and I have a feeling better than Neverwinter Nights will be. I'm kind of disappointed I can't return Baldur's Gate II though since it's opened. $50 down the drain for something that'll just sit on the shelf. Oh well.

specs (2)

56ker (566853) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418542)

Does anyone know what the minimum and recommended specs will be for this game?

Re:specs (3, Informative)

awptic (211411) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418568)

From the site:
Pentium II 300 MHz, 96 MB RAM, Windows 98/ME/2000SP2/XP, DirectX 8.1, 16 MB OpenGL-compliant 3D accelerator card, DirectX-compliant sound card and 56 kbps modem.

It doesn't say here, but Linux and MacOSX are supported as well.

Re:specs (2)

geekoid (135745) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418622)

if you have to ask, you aint got it. ;)

When's the next big thing? (2)

Chiasmus_ (171285) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418544)

Here we have another article hyping the release of the latest RTS (Warcraft III) and latest RPG (Neverwinter Nights).

Now, I'll grant that both will probably be fabulous games, and a lot of fun, but is anyone else getting a little tired of RTS and RPG?

What I'd like to see is someone designing a new game, instead of new graphics, stories, and rules for games I've played since I was 15.

No you don't. (2, Insightful)

glrotate (300695) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418598)

What I'd like to see is someone designing a new game


They tried that. It was called Black and White. Booring.

Re:When's the next big thing? (1)

Joe Mucchiello (1030) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418652)

Go for it. You must know what you want. Write it.

Nth Post (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418549)

Hahahahaha. All of you strive for 1st post, but I am the true masta. Only I have aicheved the position of Nth post. Ph33r my 1337 sk1lllz.

Release Dates (0)

First_In_Hell (549585) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418561)

and combined with its release date being right around Warcraft III, I suspect sleep will not be an option

We all know how fickle release dates are. Don't worry, we all have plenty of time before Blizzard gets areound to releasing Warcraft III. I expect it to go gold around winter 2007. By then Baulder's Gate 4 will be out as well as Neverwinter Nights 2.

offtopic, but necessary (0, Offtopic)

JeanBaptiste (537955) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418562)

1. Why do people feel the need to be such losers and post about how much slashdot sucks? Really, I would like to know. If you don't like it leave, rather than mindlessly ranting and wasting everyones time. Dumb.

2. Dont like the ads? There is another option... payment you cheap bastards... if it is that important to your small minds, do something about it other than complaining. I have yet to see anything valuable accomplished by complaining. If you can think of a better way for slashdot to pay its bills, you should tell them. Or leave.

Gamespy is slashdotted! (1)

Link-chan (566296) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418586)

Sort of funny considering that they are a major site. As a side note, I'll definitely be getting NWN.

This is News for Nerds. Stuff that matters? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418588)

No, it's not.

*This* is news for nerds, stuff that matters:
2002-04-26 18:32:50 Vivendi Shareholder meeting hacked (articles,news) (rejected)
2002-04-26 18:56:28 Vivendi Shareholder metting hacked (articles,news) (rejected)

That's right! Vivendi, the company that owns the company that owns the company that owns Blizard, the DCMA terrorists themselves, the company that took out napster, the company that is a major part of BOTH the MPAA and RIAA has their shareholder meeting "hacked." In that meeting, the shareholders voted down options compensation for senior management, but the hack means they get to do the vote over.

THAT'S NEWS FOR NERDS. STUFF THAT MATTERS.

OLD NEWS! (0)

shakamojo (518620) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418594)

Jeez, this was posted on Gamespy YESTERDAY MORNING...

But I gotta tell ya, I am looking forward to all the RPG offerings this year... hope I get laid off so I have time to play!

How long until? (1)

IMarvinTPA (104941) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418600)

How long until somebody releases the "The Ogre and the pie" [montecook.com] adventure?

IMarvinTPA

Re:How long until? (1)

ferat (971) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418769)

Dude, it's an orc with the pie.

I mean, really, what would an ogre be doing with a pie?

I hate it when.. (2)

Mr.Intel (165870) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418619)

I get droll on my mouth! Must wipe it off...

I will have to get a new hard drive for games only. With Q3, UT, Descent series, Civ3, Empire Earth and the impending release of NWN and WC3, my 15GB drive is hating life.

It has to be asked (0)

Metrollica (552191) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418626)

Why is Neverwinter Nights going to be THE RPG to look forward to? What is it that makes everyone believe it will be great? Maybe cause there is no other even remotely interesting RPG coming out. Is there something that has assured you people it is not yet another boring buggy RPG game?

Re:It has to be asked (1)

ShaggusMacHaggis (178339) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418660)

because you can create your own adventures, and play them over the net with other people.....it does have single player, but that isn't what people are looking forward to. its the toolkit creation that people are looking forward to.

Instead of gathering around a tabletop and throwing dice, you can do it all within NWN, and have cool graphics at the same time.

Re:It has to be asked (1)

wrax (570032) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418676)

Its basicly just a jumped up baldur's gate.

Nevar wintar nights (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418665)

Yes, but how is it going to compare to my faverote Linus game, DOOM. Is there going to be running throurgh mazes and shooting of evil humans who say "hey! Hey!" in slo-motion when you shoot them? Finally, does it suppport my beowulf clusters?

Awards (2, Funny)

mjjk2 (328266) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418669)

Check out all the awards [bioware.com] Neverwinter Nights has already won. A pretty high count considering the game hasn't been released yet, huh?

Screenshots (2, Funny)

1WingedAngel (575467) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418699)

Is this game supposed to look like Gauntlet Legends?

"Green Amazon needs more food!"

Tim

Movie Preview (3, Interesting)

Kanan (527196) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418717)

Here is a link [ign.com] to a movie (avi file) preview that was just released today. It is the best one I've seen, although the resolution isn't the best. Lots of gameplay and action.

YES! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418720)

Thank god!!! I was getting tired of my Everquest wife...all those elves are fat sluts these days.

I'm sure everyone else is wondering this, but will we be able to knit Turtlenecks of Back Hair Hiding +3? Also, will I be able to crawl into the 1024x768 world permanently? I just hate my life and want to die. That's why I play these games.

Well, time to go masturbate to tenticle hentai pornos and write Voltron fanfics while I pet my cat and cry... SAYONARA!

Morrowind (2, Interesting)

Henry V .009 (518000) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418750)

Morrowind, which just went gold, has a chance of being a much better game than NWN. It is a true free-form RPG. 100's of hours of play time. Character options out the wazoo. I can't wait.

Where is Katz when you need him? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418762)

Another Miserable Year For Linux (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418766)

This year was supposed to be the year that Linux crushed Microsoft. Free Software and Open Source Software, now finally being accepted by some businesses, were supposed to stand in the spotlight as all focused their attention on the young challenger. Even in the third month of 2002 though, it is plainly obvious that this year, will not be the year for Linux.

Although I mainly use Microsoft Windows XP, I do occasionally return to Linux because of curiosity. Recently, I visited a few Linux advocacy forum in hopes of seeing news of the release of KDE 3.0 and GNOME 2.0, two graphical user interfaces that hope to make Windows obsolete. GNOME 2.0 has been in development for over two years and KDE has always had rapid development, so I was surprised to see that both were not nearly ready for release, especially considering the fact that the changes made in the upgrades are very trivial. Sadly, the development of both GNOME 2.0 and KDE 3.0 has slowed to a halt due to the lack of organization that is constantly seen with Free Software. Although the current versions of both are viable competitors to Windows 3.1, Windows 95 and above are more stable and preferred by an overwhelming majority of users who have experienced both sides.

KDE and GNOME aren't only applications repelling people from Free Software though. The lack of games also keeps Linux being a viable competitor a ridiculously idealistic dream. Although Free Software hackers have been able to create usable clones of Photoshop and Microsoft Office, the lack of innovation and artistry in the Free Software community has resulted in Linux having only poor games such as Tux Racer and Minesweeper. Realizing that Free Software communities were unable to create quality games, Loki, a company with the purpose of promoting the superiority of Free Software by porting superior commercial software to Linux, was formed. In the beginning, Loki had financial problems, but was able to function for the dozens of customers they had. In time, they fell into bankruptcy, but promised the Linux community that they would not die. A few months later, Loki went out of business. Now Free Software advocates, who are also avid game players, realize they must use the operating system that enrages them to feed their gaming addiction, or must stick with Tux Racer.

Linux game companies aren't the only Open Source companies floundering. Mandrake is singing its swan song, desperately pleading for money after realizing that selling t-shirts doesn't make a good business model. Having purchased many boxes of Mandrake Linux, I am appalled at how Mandrake still feels I'm obligated to give more money to them, let alone anybody else on a product that is free. Microsoft has never acted as if consumers were selfish and heartless for not giving them money after freely using free products such as Internet Explorer. It is expected that in a few months, Mandrake and their business model of selling t-shirts and asking for donations will be out of business.

Besides companies going out of business, others are abandoning Open Source software. Once a supporter of Open Source, Sun has realized that it isn't profitable and businesses won't use it when able to afford products of higher quality such as Microsoft Office, and will now charge for StarOffice, believing that people will believe the product is better if Sun charges for its inferior Microsoft Office clone.

With the death of more Linux companies, the discovery of more flaws in a supposedly flawless operating system, a new lack of confidence in Free Software and Open Source Software, and a stronger commitment to develop quality products by Microsoft, there are even less reasons to use Linux now than there were before. Only when Open Source advocates realize that with order, innovation, and work come quality software, and not childish mascots and propaganda of pasting penguins on pictures of beautiful women, will they have a chance to rival other operating systems such as BeOS, MacOS, much less than undisputed champion, Microsoft Windows.

Heh. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3418778)

First of all, "I kill monster, get experience and get the level!" != Roleplaying. Nor is talking in a bad old english accent. But that's another story.

Second, this game is fast becoming another Daikatana. "When is it going to be out! When is it going to be out!"

..Hopefully, it won't be as crappy as Daikatana was.

At any rate, I'll probably buy it, even if I never play it. Why? I'd like a reason to get rid of my Windows partition. Not that I'm a zealot, but in all honesty, the only thing I use it for now is gaming.

We need to support companies who are willing to take a chance and say, "Hmm. Well, let's put it out on Linux, too." It's the only way we'll ever see gaming become a feature on Linux.

Given that there's supposedly no seperate box for this game, I'm wondering how we might show them that we are interested in gaming on Linux. Perhaps adding the fact that you're playing it on Linux to your .sig in various forums. Note it when you ask crazy questions of the developers, and such. We've got to make a visible presence, and show them that we are out here, and we are supporting games on Linux.

If we do, then maybe, just maybe, other companies will start considering Linux as a gaming platform.

Plot line? (2)

OneFix (18661) | more than 12 years ago | (#3418779)

Has anyone heard of the plot for this game?

It seems interesting that I don't see any cinematics or discussion of unique plot elements...everyone seems to be saying "Oooh, look at the in-game graphics".

I know they can't really give away the entire plot to the game, but it would seem that we would already be getting some idea as to the basic premise of the plot from the producers...
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