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Campaign-Themed Video Games?

timothy posted more than 11 years ago | from the bread-circuses-joysticks dept.

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An Anonymous Coward writes: "Gov. Jesse Ventura has come up with a 'great' way to get his campaign message to the younger demographics. 'The Ventura game -- or collection of games -- would be entertaining, 100-percent political and distributed free to voters as campaign literature, he says.' Wow, I can't wait, I haven't been this excited since Avoid the Noid from Dominos Pizza came out." Too bad video games aren't considered protected speech.

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First Omniweb post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3421574)

Eat it Linux losers!

Props to Logged-in trolls!

first post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3421575)

rofl

Good gaming (-1)

Ralph JewHater Nader (450769) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421578)

Everone should play Ethnic Cleansing [resistance.com].

I ::HEART:: YOU!! (-1)

egg troll (515396) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421659)

I love you Ralph Nader Jew Hater. Unlike most Slashbots, I can see past all the hate that you spew. I know that you're struggling with your conflicting feelings about men. Right now, I understand you're so far in the closet you're finding Christmas presents!

I just want you to know that when you decide to come out - and you'll feel much better when you do - Egg Troll will be here to give you lots of love and support.

YOU NEED TO SEE THIS (-1)

Fecal Troll Matter (445929) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421714)

Israel is reportedly developing a biological weapon that would harm Arabs while leaving Jews unaffected, according to a report in London's Sunday Times.

The report, citing Israeli military and western intelligence sources, says that scientists are trying to identify distinctive genes carried by Arabs to create a genetically modified bacterium or virus.

The "ethno-bomb" is reportedly Israel's response to the threat that Iraq may be just weeks away from completing its own biological weapons. [wired.com]


politic-craft (1, Funny)

DenOfEarth (162699) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421583)

great...I'd like to use my BFG to take out george dubya any day...wait a minute, maybe the rail gun is a better choice

Re:politic-craft (1)

Jacer (574383) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421595)

you had best watch yourself....i mean, that could be construed as a terrorist accusation.........why waste the ammo any way? i'd get much more satisfaction out of the humilation......where's my gauntlet?

next in news MICROSOFT the video game.... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3421588)

Help microsoft avoid fedral prosecution in an exciting action packed adventure

My campaign software (-1)

Ralph JewHater Nader (450769) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421589)

I will distribute free copies of racist games for my next presidential run. Vote for me, and I'll kill all the kikes and niggers!

Re:My campaign software (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3421596)

shutup dumbass

Re:My campaign software (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3421931)

dumbup shutass

Re:My campaign software (0, Flamebait)

SiskellAndEbert (576493) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421629)

Ebert: I am married to a black woman and I find this troll thoroughly offensive. Thumbs down Gene, WAY DOWN.

Siskell: hahahahah

Advertising in Video Games (5, Interesting)

Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421599)

Avoid the Noid was hardly the most notorious fast-food marketing game on the NES. Let us not forget McKids, where you had to win Ronald McDonald's "magic bag" back from the Hamburglar, all the while collecting "golden arches" to gain extra lives. And yet, both games were pretty good as I remember.

Nowadays, we have games that advertise for Mary-Kate and Ashley Olson, boy bands, Britney Spears, etc. I think using video games in politics is actually a step up?

PS: Does anyone know if Jesse Ventura is in the PS2 game "Legends of Wrestling"? This might mark his second video-game appearance...

Re:Advertising in Video Games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3421726)

Actually, Avoid the Noid wasn't an NES game. The NES game, "Yo Noid!", seemed to treat the Noid as a hero, whereas Avoid the Noid was an old PC game where you, the brave Domino's delivery man, would try to.. well, avoid the Noid. ;)

If you're looking to download Avoid the Noid, for whatever reason, it looks like you can do it here:
http://www.gamesdomain.com/directd/1353.html

Re:Advertising in Video Games (2)

seizer (16950) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421755)

Avoid the Noid was a PC game. I ran it on a 286 in Hercules graphics (that's 720x348 monochrome res, I do believe), and the PC speaker music/sfx were just great. Standing among its compatriots in the monochrome 286 games category, it really stood out as good programming (although SIMCGA with Jill of the Jungle was pretty good too).

What I really need to know, is what happened when you won? I got to the top, and there was some bad guy/thing (this was many years ago) but I never defeated him/it.

Anyone achieve this?

Re:Advertising in Video Games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3421968)

Also, don't forget the "Pizza Hut" signs in the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles' Arcade game...

Can a Video game be a Satire? (3, Interesting)

PhatKat (78180) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421603)

After hearing about this new Britney Spears video game, I have become consumed with the idea of Video Game Satires. If one were to make a video game where, say, the objective is to traverse through America as Britney Spears, selling addictive pink bubble gum to urban teens, could I use her likeness without her permission?

-- PK

SLAP YO MAMMA MEATLOAF -propz from Recipe Troll (-1)

RecipeTroll (572375) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421607)

Slap Yo Mamma Meatloaf

Ingredients:

1 Family pack ground beef
1/2 large onion, chopped
1 bell pepper, large
3/4 of a small can of evaporated milk
2 eggs
1 1/2 packages of crackers
A-1® Sweet and Tangy Steak sauce
1 small can tomato sauce
1/2 bottle of ketchup


Glaze:
1/3 cup Dark Karo® Syrup
1/2 cup Ketchup
1/4 cup Brown Sugar

Instructions:

Place ground beef in large bowl.
Add chopped onion and bell pepper.
Pour in a whole bottle of A-1® Steak sauce, 1/2 medium bottle of ketchup, 1 small can tomato sauce.
Beat 2 eggs in cereal bowl and add enough evaporated milk to fill bowl.
Pour in meatloaf mixture and mix with hands thoroughly.
Add enough crackers to make the mixture stick together.
Recipe makes 2 large loaves, so you may split and freeze half.
Mold meat into a loaf in a roaster or similar deep dish pan.
Bake at 350-375 degrees for about an hour and a half, or until it appears to be done.
You may also drain some of the juice off of the loaf before you top with glaze, but not too much because it will result in a dry meatloaf.
Mix glaze ingredients in equal parts or to taste and cover meatloaf with it.
Bake uncovered until coating is cooked. Slice and serve.

Comments: Now, Slap 'yo momma if this meatloaf ain't the bomb!!!!

A Question for You, Receipe Troll (-1)

egg troll (515396) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421675)

I've noticed lately a trend in the glorious trolling community that I'm hoping you can help me resolve. Its regarding the naming of trolls. You for example are Receipe Troll and you illuminate our day with your wonderful receipes. There Turd Report is kind enough to keep us posted on his bowel movements, and the Bank Of America ATM is nearing complete sentience.

You'll note that all of these posters have chosen a name that conotes how they troll. So my question for you is this: Since I'm Egg Troll should I discuss only eggs in my postings?

Re:Can a Video game be a Satire? (2)

sam_handelman (519767) | more than 11 years ago | (#3422109)

IANAL, but I had a similar idea and when I asked one of my relatives who is a lawyer he said-

1) Yes, you can.
2) You'd be sued anyway. Hope you have deep pockets.

Enjoy.

More to come (3, Informative)

Rampant Atrocity (559341) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421608)

Electronic campaigning isn't exactly a new world for Mr. Ventura. Just see How Jesse Ventura Used the Internet to Win the Election [politicsonline.com]. He certainly went beyond banner ads, folks. I guess his 'innovation' (I hate how that word has become so tired) has brought him into a new frontier of campaigning.

Go Jesse! (3, Informative)

1010011010 (53039) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421614)

I really like Jesse Ventura. He shakes up things! And he usually has a good point of view. For instance, pointing out that he's disappointed in Bush because "Bush wants to control everything from Washington, never mind what the states think, or have voted for, twice; he said he was for federalism, but apparently he's not" (paraphrase) in reference to recent medical-marijuana and assisted-suicide laws.

Re:Go Jesse! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3421717)

And just what do you think federalism is? Hmmm, maybe RUNNING THINGS FROM WASHINGTON?

Personally, I can't believe any republican would want to do that.

Re:Go Jesse! (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421724)

Just for the record, republicans are supposed to be in favor of small government, and states' rights.

Re:Go Jesse! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3421742)

Ah--yes. The great Jesse.

He has pissed me off numerous times about spending issues, especially education funding. I can't tell you how many letters I have written to legislators asking them to ignore him. I think his libertarianism goes too far for my tastes.

But he does have his good points.

I'm not sure he's been much more of an ass than any other recent governors I remember. It's just that he's such an ass about being an ass.

For example, there was a debacle not too long ago about a spending bill. Jesse thought there was too much spending in a number of areas, at least out of reserves. The legislature thought otherwise. I actually sympathized with Jesse on a number of issues. However, his way of dealing with it was unexcusable: hiding from the person delivering the bill, trying to argue that he didn't get it in time to sign before the next budget report. Had something to do with manipulating the time frames in which veto overrides can be made. I think he locked himself in the house or something. There was this big discussion over whether or not the bill had been delivered on time. Basically it was like people were at knocking at his door saying "Jesse! We know you're in there! We can see you eating dinner through your windows! We've got the bill for you sign!", and then Jesse, the next day, saying "What bill? They didn't get the bill to me on time! Too bad for them."

Needless to say, he legislature or whoever decided that the bill was delivered on time, and Jesse just didn't take it. The whole thing was ridiculous, and enough for me to lose any sympathy for whatever good points he might have had.

My recommendation to individuals in other states: get a third-party candidate as soon as possible. Just make sure it's not a former pro wrestler who throws temper tantrums.

Re:Go Jesse! (2)

SirWhoopass (108232) | more than 11 years ago | (#3422201)

You should do more than listen to the five second lead-in to the local news.

The governer's office closed at its usual time, but the legislature was working late. When they tried to deliver the bill they discovered that the office was closed. They sent someone out to his house to deliver it, but the security personnel would not allow the uninvited "guest" onto the property that night. The bill was delivered Monday morning and he signed it.

The legislature, via the local news idiots, cried the whole time that he was "refusing to accept the bill".

Re:Go Jesse! (3, Insightful)

garcia (6573) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421760)

he's also pro-commercial hemp.

Commercial hemp is definitly a great idea. I don't know what the US thinks it is proving by banning a non-psychoactive plant that was part of our agricultural history for 200 years.

I don't fucking care if they think that people will grow regular weed and they can't figure out how to distinguish between the two.

It is a healthy, fast growing, economic resource for farmers in all parts of the country.

Sometimes I really wish that the government leaders would read what is posted on the Internet and not what has been posted into their closed minds for years.

I don't like a lot of his policies but at least Ventura attempts to do things that are positive for his state's residents.

Re:Go Jesse! (2)

Jester998 (156179) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421881)

"and not what has been posted into their closed minds for years."

The word you're looking for is 'purchased'.

- Jester

Re:Go Jesse! (1)

0x0d0a (568518) | more than 11 years ago | (#3422295)

I don't fucking care if they think that people will grow regular weed and they can't figure out how to distinguish between the two.

Oh, come on now. You obviously do care -- just the opposite way of what you probably should.

Story mistake? (4, Informative)

SirNAOF (142265) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421616)

"Gov. Jesse Ventura has come up with a 'great' way to get his campaign message..."

"In the meantime, the video game idea is still in its talking stages, and Ventura hasn't yet been approached with the suggestion."

Shouldn't that say "...Ventura's campaign committee..."?

Just a clarification...

Chex (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3421617)

Anyone remember the Chex cereal version of Doom where you went around with a spoon or other weapons and killed the "squishy" enemies? Screenhots here [trilobite.org]

Re:Chex (1)

lungofish (6224) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421647)

I've got that, right here in fact (found it this morning as I was cleaning up my heap of useless cdroms).

It's a weird thing. I should fire it up.

Re:Chex (1)

bleckywelcky (518520) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421652)


Yeh, that was actually kinda fun, although prolly because I was just bored out of mind already, heh. I had a box of Chex, saw the CD, and just popped it in a comp for the heck of it. Played a few rounds, seemed kinda fun, so I played it some more and tried to win. I think you had to escape from the planet or something in the end.

Creative idea... (1, Flamebait)

AmigaAvenger (210519) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421626)

Not that Jesse ventura cares, but do the people really want their tax money spent on this?

Ventura recently opposed a plan to give a little money to teachers for retirement, with a paltry cost of $15 million per year. (Star Tribune [startribune.com] I guess he had video games in mind instead.

Re:Creative idea... (1)

civik (244978) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421683)

This is campaigning. The money would come from his campaign donors, or the state election fund. The state can't really tell Jesse how best to campaign, and it's not like that earmarked money would be alotted for something else.

I'm all for ripping on Jesse, but at least make sense when you do it.

Also, after reading the article, I'M not so sure I like that pension idea. I've been told that my generation may possibly have to work to age 72 before retirement. The last thing I want to see is taxpayer financed teacher retirements at 57 or earlier, cause I'll be still working to foot the bill.

Re:Creative idea... (1, Flamebait)

Galvatron (115029) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421711)

First of all, the money goes into his campaign no matter what else he spends taxpayer money on. Government campaign contributions are a fixed amount. I could go a tirade about how this is an underhanded scheme to keep third parties out of office, but suffice to say, it doesn't matter if he spends this money on videogames or tv ads, the money still gets spent.

As for the teachers, they already get retirement benefits, this was just a scheme to strengthen the seniority system that public schools are based on. For those who start teaching at 24, retirement would kick in at 57! And they only had to work half the year every year! It's absurd. If any public school teachers ever did a day of REAL work, they'd die.

Re:Creative idea... (2)

CJ Hooknose (51258) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421791)

As for the teachers, they already get retirement benefits, this was just a scheme to strengthen the seniority system that public schools are based on.

There's definitely truth in this. The seniority system anywhere, whether in public schools or factory floors or Congress, should be abolished and replaced with some sort of meritocracy plan.

And they only had to work half the year every year! It's absurd. If any public school teachers ever did a day of REAL work, they'd die.

Half the year? What? Are you trolling for flames, or just misinformed? Summer vacation in the USA lasts about 3.5 months, add in spring+winter breaks to get about 4 months. That gives a work year of 8 months, 2/3 of a year. And many teachers put in time teaching summer school, as well as going beyond the 8-hour day with extracurricular activities and providing extra tutoring.

As for the "REAL work" comment, you've obviously never tried to teach. Dealing with 25-30 people under 18 who have varying intelligence levels, varying interest levels, and varying degrees of homicidal mania isn't exactly easy. There are plenty of bad teachers, as described here [sourcetext.com], but there are also plenty of dedicated professionals who want to help kids learn, and who typically invest plenty of their own time and money doing so. Don't tar all public schoolteachers with the same brush.

yeah, i'm sick of these high paid baby sitters (1)

no reason to be here (218628) | more than 11 years ago | (#3422278)

teachers get paid a full $30,000+ a year to baby-sit. that's rediculous. they only work 180 days a year, so that's all we should pay them for. first off, we should pay them a babysitters wage. let's say, $3/hr from each parent. but remember, they only work 5.5 hours per day. i'm not going to pay for some "planning period." so lets say some teacher averages 25 students/class. so that's 25 sets of parents paying $3/hr each hour for 5.5 hours, for 180 days. ok, let's multiply this all out, 25*3*5.5*180 equals uh...
$74,250
uh-oh, wait a minute...
speaking as someone about to go into the teaching profession (i will be student teaching this coming fall) i find your remarks very narrow-minded and ignorant. as far as being able to do a real days work, i used to pull 12 hour shifts in an un-air-conditioned plumbing supply warehouse in texas. now you tell me who would drop dead after a real days worth of work.

Ventura's approval rating (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3421632)

For those of you who are far from Minnesota, Ventura's approval rating has dropped significantly. He's been a jerk with the budget, closing the Governor's Mansion and putting those people out of a job. After he first got elected, he did and said so many dumb things people realized they had gotten an idiot in office.

Ventura's Video Game (1)

civik (244978) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421636)

The name of Ventura's new video game should be 'Big Man Hunter'

click here [startribune.com] if you don't know why that is funny.

This is good for games as speach. (4, Insightful)

VenTatsu (24306) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421640)

This can become a great example for the next time games are challenged in court. Political speach is at the very core of what the 1st Amendment is intended to protect. By censoring or banning games courts would now be placing prior restraint on political speach.

SPEECH. Not "speach"! SPEECH. (1, Offtopic)

revscat (35618) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421709)

Good lord people. Do you REALLY expect anyone to take you seriously when you can't even properly spell a six letter word? Especially when that word is the central to the topic you are talking about?

Repeat after me: THERE IS NO "A" IN THE WORD "SPEECH". It's not that difficult, k?

I hate to be a spelling Nazi, but I've seen this mistake probably a dozen times over the past week, and it's just a dumb one to make.

I am sure that since I have taken it upon myself to point this out that there are at least five spelling mistakes in this very message. Always seems to happen that if you bitch about spelling and/or grammar, your message will magically transform into something that looks like it was written by George Bush.

Re:SPEECH. Not "speach"! SPEECH. (2)

VenTatsu (24306) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421773)

My apologies for not running my last post through a spellchecker. I do have significant trouble spelling, and was almost held back in school for it till I was diagnosed with a learning disorder that related to my ability to read and spell. I have stuck a Post-It note on my monitor's edge that reads 'SPEECH not speach' so I will remember next time. =)

(This post is spellchecked for your pleasure)

Re:SPEECH. Not "speach"! SPEECH. (1)

-=Izzy=- (80039) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421909)

ahem .. and while you criticize someone for his lack of spelling abilities. you yourself mispelled a 2 letter word. K isn't a word, at least it was not a word last time i checked.

My point is, he makes a good point, why squabble over little crap such as spelling? It's obvious that he was able to convey his point of view, seeing that you took the time to post an inflammatory reply.

trees -- forest
kettle -- black
whatever

Re:SPEECH. Not "speach"! SPEECH. (1)

revscat (35618) | more than 11 years ago | (#3422137)

He did make a very good point. The only reason it bugged me is because I have seen "speech" misspelled frequently lately. Nothing major.

And "K" is a colloquialism, used frequently in informal discussions such as these. It might not be in the dictionary, and you certainly wouldn't use it in a formal communication, but it is acceptable in this context. K?

Oh yeah! (1)

millisa (151093) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421646)

I'm sure the games will be vastly entertaining (especially for the price) if they use some of his lines from old movies. Some of my favorites:

"It'll make you a sexual tyrannosaurus . . . Like ME!"

"Ain't nothin' but a bunch of slackjawed faggots"

I'm all for more wrestlers going into Politics, it will improve the overall intelligence and will make c-span more interesting.

ICONOCLAST (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3421650)

ICONOCLAST,
A breaker of idols, the worshipers whereof are imperfectly gratified by the performance, and most strenuously protest that he unbuildeth but doth not reedify, that he pulleth down but pileth not up. For the poor things would have other idols in place of those he thwacketh upon the mazzard and dispelleth. But the iconoclast saith: "Ye shall have none at all, for ye need them not; and if the rebuilder fooleth round hereabout, behold I will depress the head of him and sit thereon till he squawk it."

The good side... (2)

wumingzi (67100) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421668)

1) Campaign spending is a growth industry.

2) This idea takes some of the large pool of campaign money and funnels it to deserving computer geeks.

3) More money spent on deserving geeks means less time to be unemployed and griping.

j.

Think Positively, Please, Slashdot (4, Insightful)

GoPlayGo (541427) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421670)

SlashDot writes "Too bad video games are not protected speech". Please don't put out negative, pessimistic vibes like that when it is way too premature, lest by propagating them they become true!

Video games ARE protected speech. Just because a single judge two days ago makes an unsupportable ruling like that is not sufficient to make it so. That is not enough to be settled law! It applies only in that small jurisdiction (St. Louis) until it is overturned on appeal, and then it won't apply anywhere in the US! It may be true that governments can place restrictions on minors access to certain forms of video games, but they also do so on books, magazines, and films without denying that those are protected forms of free speech. One judge saying so does not make it so.

So, project a positive strong attitude when it comes to our inherent rights, and don't let negative thinking undermine all the good work on rights you do here Slashdot!

Re:Think Positively, Please, Slashdot (2)

Louis_Wu (137951) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421847)

Not to mention, that if a video game is used in a gubanatorial campaign, the appeal to said case will have counter-examples.

Jesse fighting for free-speech in video games, kinda cool. I wonder if free speech in games would have any legal bearing on code as speech.

political games (2)

56ker (566853) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421672)

I remember there was a game on the BBC Micro where you got to be Prime Minister - only way I could get elected again after five years was to bankrupt the country though! I can't remember what it was called though. Anyone else remember?

J Ventura for president? (2)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421673)

I know I would vote for him and any other ex or current pro wrestler for president or Senate/House seats.

These guys would do a better job that anything the Republican or Democratic part can dig up... I am sick of the Ultra-old and ultra-rich being the only ones who get to run the country...

If the wrestlers cant get in, then let's try the Actors Guild, or maybe Lars from metallica might want to give it a shot... Oh wait... H'e exaclty like the Old farts we have in congress now... Narrow minded puppet of industry..

Hmmmm... anyone got any other ideas?

Re:J Ventura for president? (1)

Meech (166762) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421748)

There are exceptions for every group, but.... if you are going to say too rick and too old, then you are stating a characteristic of the republican party, not the democrats.

Re:J Ventura for president? (2)

Stephen VanDahm (88206) | more than 11 years ago | (#3422012)

If the wrestlers cant get in, then let's try the Actors Guild

HELL NO! Ronald Reagan was bad enough....

On a more serious note, while it's good that Ventura shakes things up politically, he sucks at PR. He pisses off reporters, pisses off voters, pisses of the legislature, the whole works. While honesty is important, keeping up appearances is important too, especially in national and international politics. Ventura's tendency to insult everyone with whom he disagrees would land himself and our country in a shitload of trouble if he were president.

I was a big fan of John McCain when he was running for President. He shakes things up politically, but has enough tact to get work done. Yeah, he's a Republican, but unlike most folks in national politics, he can actually think for himself, so his party affiliation is less important that it would be otherwise.

I was seriously hoping that McCain would beat that fratboy idiot Bush in the Republican primary in 2000. I was pissed when he didn't make it.

Steve

How's Ventura doing? (3, Interesting)

Galvatron (115029) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421677)

Now, of course I know that this is going to be a controversial question, but are there any Minnesota residents who want to comment on Gov. Jesse Ventura's performace? Obviously he was all over the news when he got elected, and whenever he said something offensive, but I haven't heard very much about his actual performance in office, so I'm curious what people think of him.

Anyway, to get back on topic, computers are definately great campaign tools. The amount of information that could be conveyed through handing out cd-roms (think aol) is enormous. I'm not sure games are the right way to go though; it's tough to make a fun game. It's harder to make a fun, educational game. It's damn near impossible to make a fun, educational game in the kind of time the programmers are likely to have before the election. A lame game seems likely to do a lot more harm than a fun game would do good.

Re:How's Ventura doing? (2)

SkulkCU (137480) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421732)


He's certainly tried to do new things. He has made a unicameral legislature a primary initiative for three years, but the issue has never made it to the floor of the House or Senate for a straight vote. Apparently it would require getting a constitutional amendment on the ballot.

It crtainly qualifies as an interesting way to reduce gridlock. IIRC, Nebraska is the only state to currently have a unicameral legislature.

Re:How's Ventura doing? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3421764)

I posted this in response to another post elsewhere, but this thread seems more appropriate.

How's Jesse?

He has pissed me off numerous times about spending issues, especially education funding. I can't tell you how many letters I have written to legislators asking them to ignore him. I think his libertarianism goes too far for my tastes.

But he does have his good points.

I'm not sure he's been much more of an ass than any other recent governors I remember. It's just that he's such an ass about being an ass.

For example, there was a debacle not too long ago about a spending bill. Jesse thought there was too much spending in a number of areas, at least out of reserves. The legislature thought otherwise. I actually sympathized with Jesse on a number of issues. However, his way of dealing with it was unexcusable: hiding from the person delivering the bill, trying to argue that he didn't get it in time to sign before the next budget report. Had something to do with manipulating the time frames in which veto overrides can be made. I think he locked himself in the house or something. There was this big discussion over whether or not the bill had been delivered on time. Basically it was like people were at knocking at his door saying "Jesse! We know you're in there! We can see you eating dinner through your windows! We've got the bill for you sign!", and then Jesse, the next day, saying "What bill? They didn't get the bill to me on time! Too bad for them."

Needless to say, he legislature or whoever decided that the bill was delivered on time, and Jesse just didn't take it. The whole thing was ridiculous, and enough for me to lose any sympathy for whatever good points he might have had.

My recommendation to individuals in other states: get a third-party candidate as soon as possible. Just make sure it's not a former pro wrestler who throws temper tantrums.

Re:How's Ventura doing? (1)

cappadocius (555740) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421977)

Basically it was like people were at knocking at his door saying "Jesse! We know you're in there! We can see you eating dinner through your windows! We've got the bill for you sign!", and then Jesse, the next day, saying "What bill? They didn't get the bill to me on time! Too bad for them."

This reminds me of another great incident in our state's history. One party (can't remember which) wanted a very different area of land to be carved out from the territory to form the state. To prevent them, the other party, before the vote, proposed that all members of the territory legislature be present before the vote took place. The proposition passed, the majority party suspecting nothing. However, one of the legislators had been chosen to never come and the officer in charge of finding him always reported that he was nowhere to be found (he did know where he was), so the entire session went by without the vote ever getting to take place. The next year, a new set of politicians carved out the state we have now.

Re:How's Ventura doing? (1)

XgregX (220481) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421768)

From all i can tell, "The Body" is not doing a very good job in office. The people who elected him, younger voters between 18-25, have all but body slammed by him. The cost to attend a state universtiy rose last year and it will be rising again. That is such a good way to treat the people who elected you.

I would never vote for him again, and if he sticks to his previous word (that he wont run for re-election) I wont have to. But "the Body" has a problem remembering his promises.

Re:How's Ventura doing? (2)

SirWhoopass (108232) | more than 11 years ago | (#3422246)

The people who elected him, younger voters between 18-25, have all but body slammed by him. The cost to attend a state universtiy rose last year and it will be rising again. That is such a good way to treat the people who elected you.

I was a college student four years ago when I voted for him. He always indicated that he was not supportive of large hand-outs for higher education. He stated that people should pay their own way for school.

Any student who voted for him and is now upset about his education spending is an idiot. Did I want to pay more for school? No. On the other hand, I support his conservative spending policies and it would be hypocritical to want lower government spending, less pork barrel politics, and then expect the government to give me a bunch of money to go to school.

Re:How's Ventura doing? (1)

cappadocius (555740) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421923)

I think he's done a farely good job. I'm a libertarian though, so I don't represent any sort of majority opinion. I'll admit he does need to grow up a bit, though.

Re:How's Ventura doing? (1)

Takehiko (20798) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421982)

Ventura is one of the biggest mistakes this wonderful state has ever made. He has broken almost every promise he made during his campaign. He ran as a small government conservative, but has turned into a big government liberal. And to top it all off, he routinely embaresses the citizens of our state on his trips around the world. Giving us a bad name.

But if he decides to run again, his chances of winning are VERY slim. He has already found a way to alienate damn near every member of his constituency. So that takes care of him. Now we just have to get rid of Wellstone...

Re:How's Ventura doing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3422089)

I'm biased against him for a few reasons and didn't vote for him -- I voted for Humphrey.
My first dislike of him came from an article I read in the Mpls Star Tribute a couple years before he was elected. At that time he was the mayor of Brookly Park and he had a radio show once in a while. He said was "sick of all the turbin heads" that drive cabs in New York (he had just returned from a trip there).
I personally don't think he is very good at being the governor. My other reasons are:
1) He claims to be a "common man" even though he wanted a Lincon SUV for a vehicle that that state pays for as well as he is a millionare and owns a "ranch" which is more of a hobby farm. While that isn't suprising, it hardly makes him like the common man. Since he also has been an actor (if you can call it that) for a number of years, that further takes him from the common man BS he claims.
2) He claims he is not just another carrer politician and he'll speak the truth. Yet when the state ended up being over $1 Billion in the hole and some DFL, (Democatic Farmer Labor) which is or Democrat party, claimed that they projected that the state would be in the red if they passed the budget they did last year, Ventura immedately said that those DFL were just pointing the finger but everyone is to blame and not Ventura.
He also stood up before the MN Congress and pulled out a $100 bill and said that he is prepared to pay more money to fight terrorism and you have to be weary of people's "partiotism" if they wont pay more money. This was his attempt to "cover up" a tax increase to pay for the $1 Billion deficit. That didn't go over well...he really pissed off the state Congress.
3) He lies just like any other politician. He claims he never gets any time off yet last year he stopped reporting the time off because he was on so many book signing trips. There is a group of Ventura haters that point out all of his discrepencies in his books.
He's also made claims that our largest school district (Anoka Hennipen) has misplaced sonething like $200 Million and other districts as well has counties are "missing" millions of dollars. If these claims are true, no one including him is looking into it. The press isnt, private groups aren't no one is. It is just BS he says. Also, he is the boss of the woman that is head of the school districts. So it is his "employees" that are "loosing" money.

The local press does not like him -- which is all his fault. He bad mouthed them consistently and refused interviews and then would claim that no one wanted to speak to him.
I will say two things about him I like. He is against the new baseball and football stadiums. See we have one stadium that the MN Twins, MS Vikings, and the UofM Gophers football uses. The Twins are really pushing for a spereate dome where the state loans the Twins $165 Million at 6.5% interest which is lower than the standard interest rate the state gets AND the state has to be the co-signer for the loan as well. Vikings are starting to push for a simiar deal. Also, he is for a light-rail transit system but it looks like we wont get that because deal the Feds offered the state has passed and a crappy deal is left that might as well be nothing.
END RANT

Needs More Serious Public Image (1)

GuyMannDude (574364) | more than 11 years ago | (#3422167)

Thanks for asking this question. I, myself, was wondering how he was doing. You are correct that those of us who don't live in MN never hear how Ventura is doing unless it's shocking. I was disappointed to hear so many here describe that he's acting like a wildman. When he got elected, I was hoping that this was a man who you could trust to be honest and straightforward. I disregarded all the ex-wrestler, ex-moviestar criticism as elitist crap and hoped that he was a "man of the people" dispite his freakish appearance. Apparently that is not the case.

Making the assumption that most in MN see Ventura in the same light that the above slashdotters do, I submit that this videogame is a BAD idea for him. It sounds like he needs to project a more responsible, serious public image. Putting out a videogame starring him is inconsistent with that goal. If his constitutents feel he is "throwing a tantrum" as one slashdotter put it, he needs to do some serious "growing up" in the public eye. Most people do view videogames as fluff and would not take his appearance in such as a sign of maturity.

One last point, and this is somewhat off-topic. I admit that I don't know very much about Ventura. But in his book he mentions somewhere (so I've been told) that he makes the statement that he finds athesists to be decent, hardworking people. For most of us here on slashdot, this is an obvious statement. But when was the last time you heard a politician saying something like this? Probably never. Most politicians have no qualms about bashing the non-religious in public forums. I'm not saying that Ventura's maturity to recognize non-religious peoples as decent should excuse the screw-ups he's apparently made in office. But it's something to keep in mind. It's going to be a very long time before we hear another politician come out and openly support non-religious people.

GMD

Protected Speech? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3421689)

"Too bad video games aren't considered protected speech."

Please tell me you're kidding. Anyone with any legal education (or sense) can tell you why games aren't considered protected speech (of course, there would be exceptions).

Why is it slashdot (and the open source community in general) tends to attract such extreme political ingnorance/stupidity?

That's not a rhetorical question...I'm really curious.

More Propoganda? (1)

SkubyDew (257407) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421691)

Sounds to me like they realized that a large majority of the youth population doesn't give a damn and would rather go play nintendo. So what better format to invite propoganda into their minds, considering they don't bother watching biased news tv?

The question remains, do they know how to make a good video game?

In other video game news... (0, Offtopic)

Burgundy Advocate (313960) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421695)

Volition released [shacknews.com] the full source code for FreeSpace 2 [3ddownloads.com].

Very cool stuff. They still claim copyright -- they haven't GPLed it or anything -- but as far as I can tell it's free for noncommercial fan projects and such.

All source code herein is the property of Volition, Inc. You may not sell
or otherwise commercially exploit the source or things you created based on the
source.


Can't wait to mess around with this beast (four megs worth of code).

Lame Flash game anybody? (1)

Meowharishi (550240) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421721)

Oh boy. A video game Jesse Ventura endorses. We all know what a techno connosieur HE is, don't we!

*yawn*

A WWF Presidency... Yay. (2, Funny)

Mulletproof (513805) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421737)

Gee, I wish the Rock would run for president. Or maybe Mr.T... Yeah.

"I Pity the foo who messes with Isreal! I pity em!

"I've come for the biological weapons... And your HEAD."

Ronald Regan turned out to be a pretty good president, but I just can't see Ventura as presidential material... And as much maligned as Bush is, the Texas Governship is no picnic. The governer actucal has to sign off on the execution of inmates.. I don't care what you say; That can't be an easy thing to do.

Re:A WWF Presidency... Yay. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3422122)

How was Regan such a good president. His adminstration, with the help of the congress at that time, passed degregulation bills that helped Enron and AA do what they did. The national debt sky rocketed under him. He was stupid -- he thought that a British movie about two bomber pilots was real and was American pilots. He made some comment that our missiles are going to launch that nearly got us into a nuclear war with Russia.

I think for Bush it was an easy thing to do. In Illinois they halted all executions because a past check that partially involved DNA evidence and review of the trials resulted in innocent people being executed. What did Bush do, he said he had confidence that the people being put to death in TX were there were guilty. This was during the campaign in 99. If you take a look at his unilateral policy on "terrorism", it fits his mindset and his rational on the inmates in TX.

so let's see if I can do it meself (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3421749)

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Dang (2)

Apreche (239272) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421750)

Normally I look down on the professional wrestling. I mean you got a couple guys in underwear grabbin' each other. ewwww. But even though Ventura was/is a wrestler doesn't mean he aint a bad guy. The interesting thing I wonder is advertising free speech? And if advertising is free speech, then wouldn't a video game with an ad in it be free speech? Then wouldn't any computer program with an ad in it be free speech? That could be good and bad the way I see it. Another case of a great idea coming from an unlikely source.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 + Pizza Hut.

Patriots (1)

t_allardyce (48447) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421796)

What? i thought that the Patriots where running America and the campaigns were just a show. So they're planning on distributing computer programs now? like that y2k bug 'fix'? Will these computer games involve realistic VR combat situations? driving large mechanical monsters?

Seriously though, i wouldn't trust any software a political party had written on my computer. Obviously the games will be Windows only. Computer games can be very addictive and i would categorise this strategy as borderline aggressive psychological manipulation.

This could actually be good (in theory). (3, Interesting)

jcsehak (559709) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421807)

Image a Warcraft-like game where the resources (oil, forests) are modeled after their real-life counterparts. You'd gain a whole new perspective on drilling for oil in the middle east, africa, or alaska. You could use the buildings and vehicles to explain concepts about how our government works.

If he used the game to educate people about the issues, then made analogies to the game to explain his stance on them, it would be a great way to get people more involved in elections. Granted, it'll probably be more like the fast-food games mentioned in other posts, and from the article, it seems like it'll be more like a collection of mpgs than a game, but don't knock it just yet.

Re:This could actually be good (in theory). (2, Interesting)

ShadowDrgn (114114) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421945)

Image a Warcraft-like game where the resources (oil, forests) are modeled after their real-life counterparts. You'd gain a whole new perspective on drilling for oil in the middle east, africa, or alaska.

Except that in Warcraft-like games, there's never a disadvantage to deforestation and strip mining. The way to win is to take as many resources as fast as you can and deny your opponent access to them. You'd gain a whole new perspective indeed.

somewhat similar idea, sort of, not really (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3421866)

I'm far too lazy to do this, but I thought of a way to evangelize open source.

Make some sort of educational software for windows, and do it right -- something like reader rabbit, cluefinders, or some other popular line -- and give it away for free.

The catch would be that in order to install it, you'd have to answer a couple of questions about what open source means. The installer would display a short text, and afterwards you'd have to answer three or five very simple questions about the open source philosophy, based on the text.

Make people read a text that says things like "with all the money the government spends on education, wouldn't it be nice if they funded open source educational software that anyone could download and run?"

The idea is to try to get away from preaching to the choir.

But, as I said, I'm too lazy to do it. Hwere's that pizza deliery man, anyway?

Too Busy To Vote? (1)

SiIverFish (544878) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421911)

What if the voters are to busy to vote because they are playing a game that is supposed to make them go vote?

Action 52! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3421948)

Campaign Action 52!!!

52 Crappy games starring jesse ventura!

With Cheetahmen!!!

Ethnic Cleansing (0)

Moderator (189749) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421959)

This has already been done. There's a 3d Action game called Ethnic Cleansing [resistance.com] where the objective is to kill as many Jews and Blacks as possible on the streets of New York. A bit extreme, but it's politics nonetheless.

I live in minnesota (0)

makoffee (145275) | more than 11 years ago | (#3421993)

and what got me to vote for the guy was his cheezy ads that featured his action figure beating up interest groups for offering bribes to him.

Mayor Quimby (1)

rmohr02 (208447) | more than 11 years ago | (#3422020)

Still the only politician I respect:

"Chat away, i'll just amuse myself with these pornographic playing cards."

"You can't seriously want to make ban alcohol, it tastes great, makes woman appear more attractive, and makes a person virtually invulnerable to criticism."

"Check out the rack on the blonde in the forth row."

the running man... (1)

DenOfEarth (162699) | more than 11 years ago | (#3422191)

wow, thinking about this now...arnold vs. the iceman vs. jesse ventura, fighting for their lives in the 'running' for office
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