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The Perfect Plate for the Nuclear Family Car

chrisd posted more than 12 years ago | from the nevada-is-americas-holster dept.

News 223

In what must be a dream come true for some, Nevada has approved a License Plate commemorating the Test Site and the connections Nevada enjoys with Nuclear weapons in the United States. The Associated Press article on the subject notes that a lot of people are up in arms about the new design, as Nevada is embroiled in controversy over the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste storage facility. The license features an atom. a mushroom cloud as the background and the equation E=mc2 on the plate.I was unable to find a picture of the plate on the web (I saw it in my morning paper). I'm sure a picture must be on the web somewhere. I'll leave it to slashdotters to suggest the best personalized lettering for the plate. My entry: DUKNCVR?

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I hope it comes with a lead dashboard (1)

cscx (541332) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421781)

This is a disaster waiting to happen...

Slow Day (4, Interesting)

DutchSter (150891) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421825)

Wow, must be a slow news day on the ole /. But hey I'll bite anyway. I'm not surprised that members of the general public are all up in arms about it. My neighbor across the street works for NASA and he's a scientist working on the idea of nuclear propulsion in space. Their real task now is figuring out how to safely and efficiently get such an enormous reactor into space. Anyway his license plate is an MIT plate (my state has plates for almost any university that has an alumni association that can rustle up however many signatures you need) customized as "SPCNUKE" He's always getting honked at, cut off, sworn at and lectured by the obligatory mother with three kids in the grocery store parking lot. Seems everyone thinks that his project is really about one of two things. 1) How to get nuclear weapons into space. Or 2) Failing that, how to dump all our nuclear waste into outerspace.

I've asked if he's ever considered changing the plate and he said no, he kind of likes the reactions he gets from people. (Lack of attention in grade school, perhaps?)

Hey....I always knew there was something just a little bit 'odd' about those folks...

As I see it, the real problem is that when it comes to something people don't understand that sometimes has the ability to maim or kill them they don't want to take the time to learn more about it. They want it banned, damnit, banned! Out of my children's face!!!

When I see one of these plates crusing down the road I probably won't give it a second look, it's just too bad people can't see the larger issue (or more often, the lack of one) sometimes.

Re:Slow Day (2)

realdpk (116490) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421850)

Yeah, I agree with you here. Most people are upset at the very thought of any sort of nuclear research and any celebration of it.

For me, I think it's pretty silly of Nevada to include a mushroom cloud on the plate, but I guess if that's what they want to be associated with, that's their choice. :)

Re:Slow Day (3, Insightful)

DutchSter (150891) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421863)

Exactly. If the plate sells, there must be a demand, and the group will get money for it. If not, it'll be yanked. In my state (Ohio), if you don't sell a certain number of custom plates every year it gets yanked.

I certainaly understand that it wasn't exactly the highlight of the state's history, but hey... An earlier poster had a CNN link that said 800 of the 100,000 workers fell ill. I'm not an industry expert, but 0.8% illness/death for an industry seems pretty low. Back when this was all happening, industrial jobs were still pretty dangerous (heck some still are!), and it wasn't *that* uncommon for someone to have to quit on disability or be killed in a given year.

Nuclear waste in outer space (4, Insightful)

dillon_rinker (17944) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421896)

Its amusing that people are opposed to nuclear waste in outer space...after all, the mass of all nuclear waste in the sun is probably greater than the mass of everything on earth. For that matter, the mass of radioactive materials on earth is probably orders of magnitude greater than all the radioactive materials mined/produced/enhanced by human beings.

Only idiots are fundamentally morally opposed to radioactive material or its production. The only rational basis on which to oppose it is safety. Not that this is a trivial basis =)

Re:I hope it comes with a lead dashboard (1)

dirvish (574948) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421890)

Apparently you can take tours of the test site...pretty scary.

Pictures? (1)

jesser (77961) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421782)

Anyone have a photo of the new plate?

Here's a photo (5, Informative)

headkase (533448) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421792)

CNN has one here [cnn.com] .

Got a FULL pic?? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421841)

thanks but that pic sucks, anyone got a link to a FULL picture?????

Can't get it up (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421953)

I'm too drunk to fuck!

Penis! (-1)

Serial Troller (556155) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421783)

I want a big, juicy penis. In my ass! NOW.

and why not? (3, Funny)

nostromo_42 (130573) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421787)

since the test site is bigger than Rhode Island, and we let *them* have their own liscence plates....

haha hahaha (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421794)

Only in the U.S. is such a thing possible !!!!

Re:haha hahaha (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421799)

I hear that the Japanese have applied for use of the same logo on their Hiroshima plates......

Re:haha hahaha (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421856)

Nagasaki is looking for a new plate, as well.

Re:haha hahaha (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421940)

I've seen the prototypes of those plates. The main difference is that the Hiroshima one has a little boy portraited while Nagasaki's has a fat man.

Re:haha hahaha (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421858)

and YOU, sir or madam, are a sick fucktard scumsucker.

thanks.

bye now!

slashdot: news for liberal leftist computer nerds (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421801)

jeezus, the editorializing on this is just too much.

chrisd, you have proven yourselve over and over to be an incompetent ass. nobody here wants to read your shit.

please man, go away, how many times can you embarass yourself?

CNN - story and picture (0, Redundant)

Andorion (526481) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421802)

Here is the story on CNN [cnn.com] , complete with a picture [cnn.net] .

Enjoy =)

-Berj

ahh, something to be proud of. (0, Insightful)

garcia (6573) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421803)

First, at the time the testing went on it was a great feat to have accomplished. Now, after the recent graphs showing exactly how much radiation is centered in that area and how much has spread across the rest of the nation I don't see how you could possibly be proud of this.

Second, how can we be proud of creating a weapon that caused such destruction and left our country (and the world) on the edge of destruction for nearly 50 fucking years (and currently, moving closer to the edge than ever before).

Third, shouldn't the license plate feature the rushing fire-storm, both flash and radiation burns, sickness, and cancer?

What do I know though, I have not been infiltrated by as much radiation as those crazy license plate designers in NV.

Re:ahh, something to be proud of. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421848)


Second, how can we be proud of creating a weapon that caused such destruction and left our country (and the world) on the edge of destruction for nearly 50 fucking years (and currently, moving closer to the edge than ever before).

Yes, because it would have been much better if someone other than the U.S. got the bomb first.

I'm not sure if I feel it'd be a good idea to drive around with a mushroom cloud on my license plate, but you cynical assholes piss me off sometimes. Take a step back and seriously consider why people would be proud of the Nevada Test Site instead of coming off like a fucknaut toddler for a change.

Re:ahh, something to be proud of. (4, Insightful)

NixterAg (198468) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421851)

Second, how can we be proud of creating a weapon that caused such destruction and left our country (and the world) on the edge of destruction for nearly 50 fucking years (and currently, moving closer to the edge than ever before).


You know, the same weapon you claim has left our country on the edge of destruction is also responsible for keeping our country from destruction in those same 50 years. I very much like my life here in the US and whether you like it or not, nuclear weapons have played a big role in making sure I have that life to enjoy.

Re:ahh, something to be proud of. (2)

garcia (6573) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421854)

Very, very, true. Not the point. The other problems associated w/the weapons far outweigh it's positive impact on our domination.

Re:ahh, something to be proud of. (0)

NixterAg (198468) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421912)

What other problems?


I'm just glad we invented the nuclear weapon first. It isn't an issue of global dominance or anything like that. Nuclear weapons haven't enabled us to be on top, they have prevented our demise.


It's kind of like the issue of gun control. If you know that somewhere, someone in society is going to own a gun and they cannot be trusted with it, you better damn sure have one yourself.

Re:ahh, something to be proud of. (1)

Ktuluvic (515973) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421991)

Man you people are ignorant. You're horribly exploited by those who you say protect you. They only thing they protect is their money, they give a shit about the people.

Re:ahh, something to be proud of. (1)

ghack (454608) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421888)



There really isnt that much...you seem to not know what the hell you are talking about. I'd much rather test nukes, say, in the nevada desert than the ocean..and radiation in itself isnt dangerous, only too much..

Sorry, but the nuclear weapon may have prevented a war between the soviet union and the US! It is called "mutual fear"...

Hardy har har. Radiation would kill you long before it would cause noticable brain damage..

Re:ahh, something to be proud of. (2)

garcia (6573) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421926)

if we hadn't begun development and let the Russians develop it w/us in the first place, there is the small possibility that they would not have been able to complete their weapons in the short time-frame that they did. Thus creating a longer time before their development of more advanced thermo-nuclear weapons and thus our heated confrontations in the future.

Re:ahh, something to be proud of. (5, Insightful)

hij (552932) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421915)

I spent a year in the mountain west, and there is a very strong anti-us government undercurrent there. Last year a Utah congressman aired commercials saying that his father was a "down-winder" (local parlance for those downwind of the Nevada test sites). This was his way of making sure everybody knew he had the requisite distrust of government needed for someone in the government.

The license plate is the sort of thing that serves as a reminder for many people who in the words of one former governor "fear the government in Washington DC more than the one in Moscow." Many people see this as a symbol of the way they have been abused and is not a symbol of pride in any sense!

Re:ahh, something to be proud of. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421924)

Peronally, I think it looks cool and there is nothing wrong with it. Grow up and whine less.

Re:ahh, something to be proud of. (2, Insightful)

repvik (96666) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421950)

It's not the effect of the bomb that they are proud of. It's not the state of the land that they're proud of.

What they are proud of is the patriotic effort that was made, the sacrifices. It's part of keeping track of the history of that particular state. Noone wants to be history-less, even though the history might not be all about greatness and cheerfulness. Remember, history is a way to avoid making the same mistake over and over and over (ad nauseam) again.

The plate should contain what people actually associate with the bomb. Nobody would think of a nuclear device if you created a rushing fire-storm, both flash and radiation burns, sickness, and cancer' (which would be nearly impossible to depict on a licence plate anyways).

You might not have been infiltrated by radiation, but you have been infiltrated by ignorance, which I personally think is worse.
As a side-note. I'm not from Nevada. I'm not even from the states. I don't think highly of the nuclear devices. I don't even think highly of the states (There goes my karma). But one thing I care about, is that people are allowed to express themselves freely, without ignorant idiots preaching their "truth", which is clearly superior to others'.

Re:ahh, something to be proud of. (2)

Brian Stretch (5304) | more than 12 years ago | (#3422005)

So if we'd never bothered then the Soviet Union wouldn't have either? And the nuclear programs of National Socialist Germany and Imperial Japan weren't a worry because...?

We rebuilt National Socialist Germany and Imperial Japan into prosperous, pacifist democracies. We're working on doing that with Afghanistan. Yeah, we're awful people.

(Nazi == National Socialist Workers Party.)

Most plates are designed to attract tourism... (4, Funny)

Dr. Spork (142693) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421805)

I wonder how Nevada could be proud of being the official "most worthless place on the continent" as judged by the government which decided that if some place must be irradiated, it might as well be Nevada, because it's not really much of a loss.

To commemorate this on a license plate is very strange.

Re:Most plates are designed to attract tourism... (1)

cscx (541332) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421820)

the official "most worthless place on the continent"

That would be New Mexico, followed by Utah, with Nevada in a close third. How can you say that? Nevada has casinos, and legal prositiution!

Re:Most plates are designed to attract tourism... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421964)

The most worthless place on the continent would be Canada.

They're all a bunch of socialist, little girls.

Re:Most plates are designed to attract tourism... (3, Interesting)

MillionthMonkey (240664) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421997)

I wonder how Nevada could be proud of being the official "most worthless place on the continent" as judged by the government which decided that if some place must be irradiated, it might as well be Nevada, because it's not really much of a loss.

Nevada relies heavily on tourism. Of course there are the idiots who go to Vegas, and the people who are attracted by Nevada's marriage and prostitution laws. Aside from that, Nevada has a strong appeal as an extremely desolate place- and it's the right kind of desolation, with Indian reservations and weird rocks and nuclear testing grounds. Not flat desolation like you see in the Plains States.

If you're wanting to see the Milky Way, or you're wanting to take some pictures with your new Canon D-30, or you're looking to justify your SUV purchase (and you don't realize that your Ford Explorer is going to need a tow truck), you could do a lot worse than Nevada. Of course, the nearest large population center is the west coast, and California itself has a lot of cool places to visit. Nevada's problem is that it's surrounded by states with similar terrain and features, so it doesn't get the fair share of tourists that it deserves. So they are always looking for things that make them stick out from AZ, CA, UT, etc., like gambling, prostitution, marriage laws, etc. (Utah might have funny marriage laws as well but if it does, they're of a different sort because I never heard of anyone going to Utah just to get married.)

The Manhattan Project sites are great things to have in your state. The bomb test areas themselves might still be radioactive and nasty places, but they have the status of historical sites, which is great for attracting tourists and so you can build tourist traps around them at a safe distance.

Yucca Mountain, on the other hand, is nothing but bad news because it cannot be leveraged to generate tourism at all- it's for waste, which repels tourists. As far as Nevada is concerned, the federal government might as well be dropping a smelly hog farm in the middle of Vegas. So you won't see Yucca Mountain plates anytime soon unless it's part of a political ploy during the next election, when Nevada's 4 electoral votes are up for grabs.

New Mexico... (1, Insightful)

ghack (454608) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421806)

...is truly the only state that deserves such a license plate.

The Trinity Site [army.mil] on white sands missile range.

Just because there were nuclear tests in nevada, should they get a license plate featuring a nuclear blast? I think NOT!

Re:New Mexico... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421970)

You want the waste too? I hear Sandia and Los Alamos want the waste they're shiping to Yucca Mountain, but Nevada is raising hell over the waste.

(Incomplete) Picture (2, Funny)

Raetsel (34442) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421810)


CNN has a story [cnn.com] about it, with a (somewhat decent) picture.

Makes me want to move to Nevada just so I can put these on my car. Too bad it's not a Delorean with a Mr. Fusion.

Re:(Incomplete) Picture (2)

unitron (5733) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421843)

I think it looks pretty cool too, but it really needs to have been brought out 'back then' in time to go on stuff like '57 T-birds and 58 Caddys back when they were new.

Re:(Incomplete) Picture (1)

dr_eaerth (149359) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421855)

Looks like the perfect plate for Homer Simpson's car.

My Entry (1, Troll)

TrumpetPower! (190615) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421815)

The only truly appropriate custom ID for such a plate:

NEVRAGIN

b&

Re:My Entry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421898)

oh, puh-lease hippie pacifist. The appropriate plate is: we reserve the right to do this again, without prior notice, the next time someone fucks with us. We'll do the math, your casualties vs. our projected dead, and if you come up on the short end, enjoy the view.

Re:My Entry (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421981)

We'll do the math, your casualties vs. our projected dead, and if you come up on the short end, enjoy the view.

Ahem, the only math involved when your dearest politicians resolved to nuke Japan (even if it was on the edge of a surrender) was: your civilian casualties vs our projected military ones .

Definately. (1)

Renraku (518261) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421816)

If you didn't mind sharing the area with lots of venomous creatures, nasty non-venomous creatures, aliens, secret government projects and a handful of radioactive yokels, it wouldn't be a bad place to live if you liked the heat. Front row seats to any nuclear accident that may occur in the area. Tickets go on sale now, call your local Ticketmaster for details.

Re:Definately. (2)

NumberSyx (130129) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421892)

lots of venomous creatures, nasty non-venomous creatures, aliens, secret government projects and a handful of radioactive yokels

Sadly, you just described my 20 year high school reunion.

A shame for Einstein... (2, Insightful)

Darwin_Frog (232520) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421819)


to have his most recognizable work put on a licence plate celebrating nuclear weapons - which he came to oppose.

Re:A shame for Einstein... (2)

AJWM (19027) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421865)

Very appropriate, actually. It was Einstein's 1939 letter to President Roosevelt (albiet at the request of Leo Szilard) that helped kick off fission research and later the Manhattan project.

(Mind, this was in a political climate where it looked like nuclear research in Nazi Germany might get them there first.)

Re:A shame for Einstein... (1)

kmellis (442405) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421967)

...and mostly written by Szilard. Einstein wrote a quick introduction of his own.

Pictures of the plate (1)

handsomepete (561396) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421823)

Here's a shot [cnn.com] of the plate... looks like an explosion out of a Bugs Bunny cartoon or something.

Also, if anyone's interested, here's [216.239.33.100] the cached version of a supposedly related design contest for the plate. Sounds like they had virtually no requirements except for size. Neato.

Re:Pictures of the plate (2)

garcia (6573) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421837)

exactly, they want you to think of it much like a cartoon. That's exactly what the government did for 20 years after the first nuclear weapon was used in WWII. They would give information out to movie makers, authors, etc, but would limit this info to make a push for movies/stories that were centered on horrendous creatures. Attempting to move the public away from the truth that this is a devastating weapon that causes LONG-TERM, horrific damage to REAL fucking people.

Thermonuclear war is NOTHING like the Acme rocket.

Re:Pictures of the plate (2)

AJWM (19027) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421918)

Actually the horrendous creature movies of the 50s and early 60s are probably what embedded some of the ridiculous notions about atomic energy in the public's mind.

As for weapons that cause "LONG-TERM, horrific damage" -- one, weapons are supposed to cause damage, and two, dead is about as long term as you can get. If you look at the objective facts, nukes actually have a pretty good record for keeping the peace: they ended one world war, and have deterred any others in the nearly sixty years since -- precisely because they are so horrific.

(It was Alfred Nobel's hope that his invention, dynamite, would make war so horrific that it would never be fought again. Didn't quite work out that way.)

Re:Pictures of the plate (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421996)

If you look at the objective facts, nukes actually have a pretty good record for keeping the peace: they ended one world war,

No they didn't. The Japanese government was willing to surrender, but the US goverment wanted to scare off the Russians.

deterred any others in the nearly sixty years since

No again. It has maybe deterred one or two, but not all as you claim.

Re:Pictures of the plate (1)

handsomepete (561396) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421998)

Actually the horrendous creature movies of the 50s and early 60s are probably what embedded some of the ridiculous notions about atomic energy in the public's mind.

Not to mention the duck and cover videos and the constant proliferation about the "safety and cleanliness" of nuclear power. It's like the two suddenly become one unit because they both have the word "nuclear" in them.

(It was Alfred Nobel's hope that his invention, dynamite, would make war so horrific that it would never be fought again. Didn't quite work out that way.)

Interesting that dynamite's something else that's looked at through cartoon goggles now...

Re:Pictures of the plate (0)

rash (83406) | more than 12 years ago | (#3422007)

deterred?

"the" USA has been in one war after another ever since it came to be.

Pictures of the plates (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421827)

Some pictures of the plates are available here:

LicenceDK [fazigu.org]

Re:Pictures of the plates (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421870)

nope.

FUCK YOU, SHITHEAD

Die Bambi! (0, Flamebait)

C64 (130005) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421830)

The remote site is surrounded by thousands of additional acres of land withdrawn from the public domain for use as
a protected wildlife range and for a military gunnery range, creating an unpopulated land area comprising some 5,470 square miles.
Ummm.... yeah.

How about a /. plate? (5, Interesting)

elflet (570757) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421831)

You too can request a custom plate design, if you can get 250 Nevadans to promise to buy it:

A number of charitable organizations and causes have proposed special license plates which may or may not actually be issued, depending on public demand for them. These are called "Letter of Intent" plates. Motorists interested in seeing the plates produced fill out a Letter of Intent stating they would purchase a set. A given type of plate will be produced if the Department receives more than 250 requests for it before the date listed on the form.

(See Nevada License Plates [state.nv.us] )

On the other hand, you'd have to get the Legislature's approval...

Re:How about a /. plate? (5, Insightful)

handsomepete (561396) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421852)

It would never happen. Too many of the people interested would boycott it because they'd have to pay for it.

This is just plain silly. (1, Flamebait)

Order (469817) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421838)

I wonder, should Ukrainian (for Chernobyl) and Japanese (for Hiroshima) license plates feature a similar design?

Re:This is just plain silly. (2)

AJWM (19027) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421933)

Chernobyl wasn't a nuclear explosion, it was primarily a fire fueled by the graphite moderator of the reactor. Quite nasty enough, but after they got the fire out and thousands of cubic yards of concrete dumped on the debris, Chernobyl's remaining reactor (there were two) continued to produce power for many years. But yes, it did litter the countryside with radioactive material.

(Power reactors elsewhere in the world use completely different designs, (non-positive void coefficients, or additional safety mechanisms) and can't catch fire.)

and for New York (3, Insightful)

SysadminFromHell (535868) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421839)

I propose the skyline-licence-plate. And as a primer, it should come in two kinds. On front of the car it pictures the New York skyline before september 11th, on the back you get the same picture, but without the WTC.

Re:and for New York (2)

Louis_Wu (137951) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421886)

I really like that. I propose that there be two versions - in-state and out-of-state. Those of us who don't live in NY and still want one could get official NY license plates (not valid for placing on a car and driving with, but still produced by NY state).

Re:and for New York (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421976)

And I propose a New York license plate with a bunch of sand niggers blown to shit by a B-52.

FUCK you Eurotrash! We laugh are your socialism. Weak-ass bitch.

whorehouses and irradiated desert (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421840)

why don't they have some skank in a garter belt
rinding an mx missile against the backdrop of a red, orange and purple mushroom cloud?
so much more apropos.

If you don't like the plate - don't get it (1)

ApheX (6133) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421844)

Nevada has at least 5 or 6 different license plate styles - just like California and various other states. Basically you pay more for one of these "themed" plates and part of the proceeds get donated to the cause. People like the idea bucause your talking about $50-$100 *extra* for a set of these themed plates. If you don't like the idea of the 'Nuclear' plates then get standard plates, or the Tahoe plates, or the Art for Kids plates, or the Firefighter plates or......

Its just another revenue stream for this historical society - if enough geeks in Nevada banded together you could get some moronic "Slashdot.org Society" plates if you wanted. These plates neither support or oppose Nevadas desire to have Nuclear waste in the state. Its JUST a license plate!

Plug?!? (0, Offtopic)

mcrbids (148650) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421846)

Lately, it seems, alot of posts here at /. were on fark.com [fark.com] just a few days before.

I was reading about this last night there...

Of course, Fark's comments section sucks compared to /. - you can't browse at +3 like I do, for example.

If you've ever strolled through /. at 0 or -1, you'll get a good idea of what fark's comment section is like. (egads!)

Probably OT, though...

Re:Plug?!? (2)

Animats (122034) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421910)

At least Fark rates stories. Slashdot doesn't let you moderate an entire story down, just comments. Just being able to note "redundant" on the duplicate stories would be a plus.

Can't they find anything else to commemorate? (1)

YouAreFatMan (470882) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421853)

Like scorpions, legal prostitution, Japanese tourists, organized crime, or Wayne Newton?

Come to think of it, maybe a mushroom cloud is the best thing to come out of Nevada. Never mind...

Other Possable Plates (1)

The Donald (525605) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421859)

I wonder if Nevada will aprove a plate for all the casinos there.

The real interesting plate will be the one Nedava's DMV will make celebrating prostitution; I would love to see that plate. It would probally cut down on road rage too!

Re:Other Possable Plates (1)

ApheX (6133) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421876)

1.) It is illegal to advertise brothels or prostitution in Nevada other than a sign outside the facility

2.) Prostitution is only legal in a couple counties in Nevada - even then those counties COMBINED all have a population LESS than 250 people :P

Even if enough people got together to make a Prostitution plate it would be illegal because it would be 'advertising'. Not to mention - who would the proceeds go to? Health Clinics for hookers?

Re:Other Possable Plates (2)

the phantom (107624) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421984)

Prostitution is only legal in a couple counties in Nevada - even then those counties COMBINED all have a population LESS than 250 people

No. This is not true. While prostitution is legal here on a county by county basis, many counties allow prostitution, including Elko, Wite Pine, and Nye counties. The only places that I know of right off where prostitution is not legal are Las Vegas County, and perhaps Carson County. It may also be illegal in Reno, as there are no brothels in town here, but there are several "bunny ranches" just outside of town. Elko County alone has a population of at least 20,000 (with some 10,000 in Elko alone). In Elko County, there are at least five brothels, three in Elko and two in Wells, 60 miles east of Elko.

Re:Other Possable Plates (2)

glitch! (57276) | more than 12 years ago | (#3422011)

Prostitution is only legal in a couple counties in Nevada - even then those counties COMBINED all have a population LESS than 250 people

Just what the hell are yout talking about? I don't know about Storey county, but the [216.239.35.100]
census figures for Lyon county show 34501 for this county alone. Although the median family income is only $33k, the economy here is moving ahead pretty well...

License plates dont have to be politically correct (5, Insightful)

shoppa (464619) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421861)

License plates don't have to be universally approved or politically correct to have meaning and relevance. If that were the case, we'd have nothing but boring "beige" plates on all the cars.

Let's see, off the top of my head:

  • New Hampshire - Live Free or Die. Luckily this resonates strongly on both sides of the aisle.
  • District of Colubmia - Taxation without Representation. Makes a point, does so with historical relevance, yet the possibility of a DC vote in congress is hated and despised by the majority of congress - who are forced to view it every day :-)
Excising the Manhattan Project and the Cold War from history is something I'm sure that a certain fraction of the world would like to do. But face it, millions of Japanase civilians and probably a million US serviceman would've died if the conventional war had continued. If Nevada wants to take pride in this, it's fine by me.

Nevada can't change its past (3, Insightful)

dfn5 (524972) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421875)

In Nevada's past nuclear testing happened. It led to a Nuclear weapon that helped put an end to WWII which ultimately led to fewer lives lost on our side. That, in turn, led to a form of power generation that is, I hate to say, cleaner to the environment than fossel fuels. The waste merely needs to be dealt with responsibly.

So if Nevada wants to be proud of their history instead of ashamed of it, more power to them.

paraphrased from cnn ... (1, Redundant)

-=Izzy=- (80039) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421880)

More than 100,000 workers helped develop the nation's nuclear arsenal in Nevada, and more than 800 fell ill for their efforts.

If they're talking about the legacy of the Test Site, I don't think they should use a mushroom cloud unless they show what it did to the people who live here and worked out there,

Glow in the dark? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421884)

Do they glow in the dark?

Nuke Nevada (3, Funny)

Spankophile (78098) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421895)

Maybe it's actually a hidden agenda campaign, trying to rally support for simply nuking Nevada off the map, and all it's sinful habits (guns, gambling)

(kidding)

just shoot me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421901)

I like these Virginia plates: Light me up.

I have reservations (0, Troll)

xxSOUL_EATERxx (549142) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421903)

I'm not to sure about the slogan on the plate:

Nevada Test Site: perverting Einstein's discoveries for the purpose of killing humyn beings for over 50 years!

Re:I have reservations (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421922)

You lack cluefulness.

The Bomb was Einstein's idea (among others). Sure, he recanted his advocacy of it in later life, but if he hadn't laid the groundwork for it in the first place, he, along with many of the rest of us, might have died with altogether different thoughts.

Re:I have reservations (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421962)

If 'humyn' was just a typo, please disregard the following. Otherwise, enjoy.

huMAN huMAN huMAN huMAN huMAN.

MAN MAN MAN MAN MAN MAN.

PENIS PENIS PENIS PENIS PENIS PENIS.

SEXUAL CONQUEST!!
What else...oh...just a shot in the dark but "REPUBLICAN! REPUBLICAN REPUBLICAN!!!". Take THAT!

What's next? (1)

Ratso Baggins (516757) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421908)

Perhaps the US Schools Board (or whatever) will adopt the crossed M-16 and AK-47 as the official emblem/coat-of-arms?

I doubt there has been (or could ever be) enough time for this to be tactful or even mildly humerous.

Of all the things to be proud of....

Re:What's next? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421930)

Lets not forget Scottland and Germany. Those crazy Europeans! They seem to like their guns as well!

Re:What's next? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421989)

I think Germany beat us out on that last round.

Other Nevada Plates (5, Informative)

batobin (10158) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421913)

I found this page at Nevada's DMV sites. Doesn't have the nuke one, but it has others:

http://nevadadmv.state.nv.us/platesmain.htm [state.nv.us]

Someone else posted the new nuke one:
http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2002/ALLPOLITICS/04/26/atomic . icenseplates.ap/story.nevada.license.ap.jpg [cnn.net]

Re:Other Nevada Plates (1)

the phantom (107624) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421944)

Hey, those are a lot better than the plates we have now! Stupid scene with ugly yellows, blues, and greys. I can't wait to put one of these on my truck!

Hey there chrisd (1)

SmittyTheBold (14066) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421920)

You are aware the "Nuclear Family [columbia.edu] " has nothing to do with nuclear weapons, right?

Just checking.

what about whores and blackjack? (5, Funny)

gelfling (6534) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421943)

they're as big a part of NV history as big ass bombs

Looks nice, and choice is always good! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3421946)

I like it, it's unique and different. I'm sure some flakes will object, citing the evils of nuclear weapons, power, etc. But it was a big part of their past and they deserve to celebrate it if they so choose. There ARE other plates available in that state for those who dislike this one. Besides, any time someone can pull-off something like this that annoys the nancy liberals of the world, I feel like there is hope for humanity after all. Ironic considering the subject material, eh?

For you, michael! (-1)

Serial Troller (556155) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421952)

The Declaration of Independence
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of
America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one
people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them
with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the
separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of
Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of
mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel
them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain
unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the
pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments
are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the
consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government
becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People
to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,
laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its
powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect
their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that
Governments long established should not be changed for light and
transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that
mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable,
than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they
are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations,
pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce
them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their
duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for
their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of
these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains
them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of
the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated
injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the
establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove
this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and
necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and
pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation
till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended,
he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of
large districts of people, unless those people would
relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a
right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual,
uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their
public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into
compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for
opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of
the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to
cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers,
incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at
large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean
time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without,
and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these
States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for
Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to
encourage their migrations hither, and raising the
conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing
his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the
tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their
salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither
swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their
substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies
without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and
superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction
foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws;
giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for
any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of
these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by
Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended
offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a
neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary
government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it
at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the
same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable
Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our
Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring
themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all
cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his
Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our
towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign
Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and
tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty &
perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and
totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the
high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the
executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall
themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has
endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers,
the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare,
is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and
conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for
Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have
been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character
is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit
to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren.
We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their
legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We
have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and
settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and
magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common
kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably
interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been
deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must,
therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our
Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind,
Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of
America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme
Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in
the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies,
solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and
of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are
Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all
political connection between them and the State of Great Britain,
is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and
Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude
Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all
other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do.
And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on
the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each
other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

Nuclear? (1)

alexandre (53) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421956)

Does that mean we'll have to wear nuclear suits to go to defcon this year? :-)

Re:Nuclear? (-1)

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (537317) | more than 12 years ago | (#3422000)

Nah! You'll have to wear diapers. Because defcon is for girlies.

It's not even so much the storage... (4, Informative)

RyanFenton (230700) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421960)

It's not even so much the storage of nuclear waste in the Yucca mountain are that annoys many - but rather the transportation of the material across the U.S.

The current proposals to move said waste involve using barges across many waterways including the Great Lakes [lasvegassun.com] .

Not only that, but a new transportation would be starting every four hours [ananuclear.org] , using trucks that haven't even finished the design stage yet, designed each to move at only an average of 20-30 miles an hour, carrying 75 or 125 tons at a time [state.nv.us]

Not that storing the material in one central area isn't a good idea - but moving it in this manner may be more dangerous than anything we've ever encountered with nuclear material - especially the responsibility is handed over to the private sector.

Ryan Fenton

Nukes might be the best thing that happened.. (2, Insightful)

imsirovic5 (542929) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421971)

Sure.. Nukes are bad... But you can argue that they are the best thing that happened to us and that its the Nukes themselves that saved human race from ultimate destruction.. How?? You could argue that nukes serve as deterrent that keeps all the major world powers from going into the war.. think about it.. Without Nukes to serve as deterrent US and Russia would have probably went into a war that would have costed millions of lives.. So as bad as they are, you could argue that nukes brought STABILITY since no country is willing to risk complete destruction.. So when u look at the nukes as pacifying factor in world today then really it does not seem as bad. Few times Nukes have been used in Japan probably prevented an all out ground war between Japanese and Americans that could have resulted in far greater number of casualties then it was the case in Hiroshima and Ogasaki..

Re:Nukes might be the best thing that happened.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3422006)

OMG. I cannot beleive you.

Using LOGIC on slashdot is totally prohibited. The fact that everything you said makes complete sense is NO EXCUSE!!!

Associating Nukes with Cars (4, Insightful)

hanway (28844) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421975)

One could probably make a case that gasoline-powered automobiles have had much more devastating negative effects on the world than nuclear weapons and nuclear energy put together: pollution, global warming, urban decay, and so on. If you buy that argument, then it's denigrating to nuclear testing to depict it on an auto license plate.

What Yucca Mountain controversy?? (2)

Ars-Fartsica (166957) | more than 12 years ago | (#3421983)

There really isn't a controversy surrounding Yucca Mountain - the federal government is going to take a mountain in an area that has already been nuked to death and store waste there. Sure there are protests, but in reality the government made the final decision on Yucca Mountain the moment they proposed the project.

Any dissnet at the state level is going to be overridden at the federal level. Yucca Mountain is a done deal.

Re:What Yucca Mountain controversy?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3422013)

Well, we could always pay (but not much)some poor nation to store it. Maybe somewhere in South America. As long as it's not bomb quality, whats the problem? Store it up in the Andes somewhere, pay the natives $10 a piece and problem solved!!!
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