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How Microsoft Tried To Buy Nintendo

timothy posted more than 12 years ago | from the with-clams-dough-bread-and-smackers dept.

Games 286

An anonymous reader submits: "A new book, Opening the Xbox: Inside Microsoft's Plan to Unleash an Entertainment Revolution discusses Microsoft's plans to buy Nintendo for $25 billion in late 1999. By January 2000 however, talks dissolved and each company went their seperate way. Makes you wonder how the home entertainment industry would be different if they had gone through with it. Stories are at Gamers and Cube Europe."

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fist post (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423096)

chows sucks

Re:fist post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423110)

@_@

Second post (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423104)

"I was surprised," Arakawa admitted. "We didn't need the money. I thought it was a joke."

And then he saw the X-box, and got the punchline.

Can you believe it? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423109)

MY dick is so damn fat! I make all the gay linux loving homos scream when I plug there fat hairy asses!

Jesus Christ! (0)

Devil's BSD (562630) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423123)

it amazes me what people do for a living

Re:Can you believe it? (-1)

Serial Troller (556155) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423227)

I'm going to stuff my fat dick in your eye socket.

Re:Can you believe it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423388)

another M$ brainwashed freak who is too dumb to run linux so he flames us smarter people

E

Re:Can you believe it? (-1)

Serial Troller (556155) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423409)

No, just a troll, responding to another troll. No PENIS for you! What do penises have to do with Microsoft anyway?

What about sega? (2, Insightful)

CmdrTaco (editor) (564483) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423112)

This brings up an interesting point. Sure, Microsoft has always been known to gobble up smaller companies and absorb the market share that they previously held. But with the antitrust trial, would it really have been a good idea to buy Microsoft?

If Microsoft really wanted to be immediately successful in the console market, they should've bought Sega late last year. The Dreamcast was a great system, and with the Microsoft marketing machine behind it and a potential sequel, there would be almost guaranteed success. Plus, Sega could be bought for a whole lot less money (especially now).

Re:What about sega? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423146)

yes, that would be terrible!!!! Microsoft buying Microsoft!!! God save us!!!!

Re:What about sega? (2)

DaedalusLogic (449896) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423153)

The Gamecube Europe article mentions that they tried, and then threw their weight into trying to by Nintendo next. Seems a little out of order. I think that MS is doing an OK job with the XBox personally. A merger with either would have serious potential to have turned the tables on Sony. Did anyone think about what influence the Sony empire has on market penetration due to the fact that every retailer wants to carry Sony TV's Audio... etc. That's how they make their console a success... They have the power to make every VAR buy them. MS of course does too... but the less physcial products you ship to retailers the less sway you have.

Re:What about sega? (1)

speedfreak_5 (546044) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423197)

I really don't see why they didn't. They already had their hands in the Dreamcast with WinCE and IE for web surfing. But, if the X-box was in development at the time of Sega's leaving the console market, that would have conflicted with their PR stance. To hear of a new console from them right after they bought Sega out would have a few people thinking that it was nothing but a rehash of the dreamcast with microsoft logos and a big green X on it.

Re:What about sega? (0)

YourMissionForToday (556292) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423311)

What are you talking about? They tried to buy SEGA and SEGA refused. After dumping the Dreamcast, they have become a profitable company. They are bigger than EA/Square and stand to make a killing developing for multiple consoles.

BTW, WinCE was only included in the Dreamcast to encourage porting PC games. Internet Explorer is nowhere to be found on the Dreamcast (PlanetWeb made the DC browser in the US).

Re:What about sega? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423392)

I don't understand this.

It seems to be implying that:

A) Having a superior system to sony (dreamcast) won't win the console wars (because dreamcast died)

B) Having superior marketing to sony (xbox) won't win the console wars (because xbox is dying)

Yet, having a superior system and superior marketing together will.

I don't think much would have changed.... (1)

Penguin Follower (576525) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423113)

because, although MS would have eliminated/assimilated a competitor with the deal, with MS's name on the console the public reactions would have been the same.

Re:I don't think much would have changed.... (2, Funny)

Ibjr (570729) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423120)

But it would be ironic, because the bastard child spawn from such a deal would run on the PPC chip :)

Re:I don't think much would have changed.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423147)

How would that be ironic? Microsoft made NT4 for the alpha, ppc, and mips chip.
MICROSOFT != intel

What would have happened? (1, Funny)

Devil's BSD (562630) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423117)

On the plus side, Im just glad we dont have to use X-Cubes. On the negative, it would have been an uncommon sight of an American company taking over a Japanese one.

love.... (0)

Sideswiped (259402) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423121)

just another reason why I love nintendo... it shouldn't be too hard to reading to this and come to the conclusion MS just wanted to get a larger share of the market(and franchises) and then reap the $$$$ and at the heart of it could really ever give a shit about gaming(other then the $$$).

Crashes (2, Funny)

SiIverFish (544878) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423125)

Now when your gamecube crashes, there is no blue screen of death, just Maro popping up saying "Mama-mea, iv'e crashed AGAIN"

Re:Crashes (1)

funkhauser (537592) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423234)

>> just Maro popping up... I'll ignore the unintentional Magic: the Gathering reference and mention how humorous Bill Gates in a red-and-blue plumber's uniform would be. :)

I can see it now... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423132)

MSNES

MS ... patent infringment (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423171)


IIRC, "MS" was patented by capcom for the creation of "MS. Pacman"

Uhm, come to think of it, "MS. PacMan" is an oxymoron that congures scarry thoughts on the internet. "PacWoman" would've sufficed, not "MS. PacMan" (transexual thought).

Re:MS ... patent infringment (1)

neafevoc (93684) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423252)

I thought the Pacman franchise was owned by Namco, not Pacman.

And it was called Puckman before it hit the States. I wonder what made them wanna change it... :)

Re:MS ... patent infringment (1)

dirkdidit (550955) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423351)

I believe we all know the story about how kids would go to local arcades and scratch part of the marquee off so that the P in puck would become the F in, well you know the word..;)

Re:I can see it now... (1)

Nintendork (411169) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423400)

Too funny

Bill Gates and pie (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423133)

...not American pie, I want Japanese pie...

what does this have to do with those cute japanese Gamecube girls. I'm specifically talking about the ones that wear yellow and blue see-through raincoats and silvery-grey underwear. I mean, c'mon, Japan's Nintendo 0wned Microsoft's green-haired women way back in Nintendo 64's Kokiri Forest.

Those Japanese girls; just can't ignore them. Bill gates will be crying that he was too late in the skimpy-exotic japanese girls. Green hair-ed girls is old news. Unless, you try to salvage the idea in OddWorld 3 with a 3-eyed green-haired girl.

Japan's girls, oh how I love thee. Let me count the ways...

1
11
111
1111
11111
111111
1111111
11111111
111111111
1111111111
11111111111
111111111111
11111111111111&)
11111111111111&/
11111111111
.111111111
....11111

Re:Bill Gates and pie (-1)

Pen1s Goat Guy (535580) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423277)

The Japanese Pies are better than Microsft Pies, I'm sure.

TTTTTTTTTTTD
_))

Nintendo probably tried to take advantage of MS (3, Interesting)

edwdig (47888) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423134)

The way I see the situation, Nintendo probably tried to pull something similar to what MS did back when they entered the mouse market. (MS got into negotiations with Logitech, learned all about their manufacturing process, then broke off talks) Nintendo probably just saw the opportunity to learn a lot about their competition, and entertained MS just enough to get all the info they could from them. Once they did they, they broke off talks. Nintendo is so set on their business model that they won't try anything new. Nintendo of America would love to be more aggressive against Sony, but they have to answer to the Japan branch, who is quite content where they are because they make a hell of a lot more money than the games branch of Sony does. If it's not broken, don't fix it is pretty much their motto, so why would they ever even considering selling out to MS ?

Re:Nintendo probably tried to take advantage of MS (1, Interesting)

Cornelius the Great (555189) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423170)

Wouldn't this idea make more sense if you turned this around? Nintendo didn't try anything new. It was Microsoft that entered new ground in the console market.

Re:Nintendo probably tried to take advantage of MS (2, Interesting)

magicsquid (85985) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423202)

Sometimes history is bound to repeat itself. If you recall, something similar happened back in the days prior to the PlayStation. Nintendo and Sony met to cooperate on a CDRom add-on for the SNES. Nintendo broke off talks after Sony had already announced the new drive at E3. Sony went on to create the PlayStation out of what it had learned from Nintendo. Isn't it also possible that exactly the opposite of what you suggest happened... that Microsoft got into talks with Nintendo to learn what it could about the industry because it already new it was going to launch it's own console? Microsoft could gain a tremendous amount of information from the company that has been in the console market longer than any other, Nintendo.

So let me ge this strait (2)

Edmund Blackadder (559735) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423386)

Ninetendo wanted to learn from Microsoft about making console games and systems. Because Ninetendo lacks experience in that field you know.

Unless Ninetendo needed urgent information on how to make a bussiness plane or a golf simulator, i would suggest you have it backwards.

Frogs sure are stupid (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423139)

by Veronique de Rugy

Veronique de Rugy, who left France to live in America, is a fiscal policy analyst at the Cato Institute.

Should we laugh or should we cry? The first round of the French presidential elections are over. For months, media and polling agencies predicted that Jacques Chirac (the supposedly conservative president) would face Lionel Jospin (the socialist prime minister) in the runoff for the French presidency next month. Voters, however, decided otherwise. Now the so-called extreme rightist Jean-Marie Le Pen will face Jacques Chirac. Yes, that's correct, the socialists didn't even make it to the second round of the elections. But that does not mean that a free market and a free society will now reign in France under Chirac or Le Pen. For both men are protectionists and neo-socialists in their economic and public policies.

I am, of course, delighted to see the Socialist Party humiliated and yet also shocked by the outcome of the elections. Equally delightful, France's main parties of the left are now calling on voters to vote for President Jacques Chirac in the second round of the presidential elections. Can you imagine Al Gore, Ted Kennedy, or Ralph Nader begging Americans to vote for Bush or Reagan? Certainly this is good news.

But the bad news is that this vote does not signify support for free markets and small government. Neither candidate (Chirac or Le pen) is "libertarian," or even "conservative" in the American sense of the term. Le Pen used to pay lip service to markets. But now he is best known for being an extremely nationalistic opponent of globalization. He also has an unpleasant reputation for being racist. And he got a lot of attention a few years ago for calling the Nazi gas chambers "a detail in history."

On the other hand, Jacques Chirac is hopeless. He was elected seven years ago sounding like the Republicans who took over Congress in 1994. But whereas the GOP at least made some positive steps, Chirac took France further in the wrong direction. The result of his statist policies and large tax increases is an all-time high unemployment rate. That incompetence put the socialists and the communists back in the French Assembly less than 2 years after Chirac's victory in 1995. This time around, Chirac swears that things will be different and that he will cut taxes. He is, however, a bit less daring about reforming France's social security and her 35-hour work week. As he says, "we still have to do things a la Francaise."

If Chirac is elected he will continue to promote big government programs, more regulation, high taxes, and bad policies across the board. That's what he has done for 30 years. And there is no reason for him to do any differently now, especially since at 70 years old he doesn't have a political future. This is why the socialists and communists apparently are comfortable in calling on voters to elect Chirac. They know from experience that Chirac represents no danger to the core values of socialism, and, besides, he won't be around much longer.

In addition to the two candidates chosen-Chirac and Le Pen-the action of French voters shows that they don't really want less government or sound economic policies. If you add the socialist votes, the communist votes, and the other leftist votes you realize that nothing has changed and the French people still overwhelmingly vote on the left side of the spectrum. There was a free-market candidate, Alain Madelin. But his campaign to "give men back liberty and responsibility, give them the chance to blossom and succeed," did not succeed. The 55-year old leader of the Liberal Democracy Party got 3 percent of the votes. The fact that few people voted for him demonstrates that the French still do not get it.

The French have no understanding of why the economic situation there is so bad. They don't realize that big government is why France fell from the fifth richest country in Europe to the twelfth richest country - just ahead of socialist Greece. The French still worship the government.

Voting for Le Pen last week means that people prefer to forget that globalization and free trade have made France the world's sixth biggest foreign trader. Nonetheless, given unemployment and other problems, the French apparently would rather blame immigration instead of years of socialist policies for the economic situation. Will French voters ever learn the importance of freedom and responsibility? There is reason to doubt.

Re:Frogs sure are stupid (-1)

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (537317) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423209)

So much buzzwords and misinterpretations, my head hurts.

Typical M$ (0, Insightful)

Eil (82413) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423145)


While this is new news, it's also old news. Microsoft's policy on innovation: If you can't beat 'em, buy 'em.

I was just pointing out today to a friend how Windows XP's feature to send in bug reports to M$ Central was first pioneered (that I know of) by Netscape.

Re:Typical M$ (2)

Eil (82413) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423151)


... and I forgot to add that the last point there only serves to exemplify the issue that nearly all of Win2k's and WinXP's "innovations" have actually been done before, either in *NIX-land or other software. (And usually better.)

Re:Typical M$ (3, Interesting)

JFMulder (59706) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423178)

.. and you forget to put your foot in your mouth when you wrote this. Come on, of course Microsoft has copied Unix. How could they not!!! Do you accuse Saturn to rip off Ford because they're making cars. Ford has been there for a hundred years! You're right, Saturn are dirty bastards for trying to make a clone or a different version of car.

Linux and UNIX groupies like you give the community a bad name.

And what was wrong with trying to buy Nintedo? It's not only a question on buying to beat everyone. This is a pretty normal move in the industry. If you have some ideas, but don't have all the expertise to go forward with them, why don't you make a alliance with another company, or buy the other company and integrate it with yours, so the product will be even better?

Re:Typical M$ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423246)

Saturn is owned by GM who has been in the car making game as long as Ford has.

Re:Typical M$ (0, Flamebait)

silvaran (214334) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423257)

The rules changed once Microsoft was declared as a monopoly. We now have reason to believe that any buyout of Nintendo is simply a tactic for Microsoft to gain control of the gaming industry--not an attempt to improve this industry.

Many of the buyouts in the past have been for failing companies. When a company as large as Microsoft throws $25 billion onto the table, we have reason to question their motives.

Nintendo has been a leading provider with their flagship N64, ever since the Nintendo, Game Boy, Super Nintendo and now the Game Cube. While the market share has shrunk considerably with the choice provided by Sony's Playstation, you cannot discredit the meaning of the Nintendo brand.

The fact that Microsoft can, financially, simply scoop up these companies--albeit in unexplored markets (before the X-Box came about) really scares me. To think that the home entertainment world would be exposed to BSODs in their very own living room sickens me to death. Next thing you know, Microsoft demands 2/3 rack space on gaming shelves and a 60%+ size increase of the advertised X-Box logo over competitors (Canadians will recognize this inadvertant reference to Quebec's language advertisement policies).

So, while major distributors of games still make a great deal of their income from non-Microsoft games and sales of products from other giants such as Sony, Microsoft is relatively powerless to dictate what gets sold and where (see: Microsoft's power over OEMs, links too numerous to mention).

So...

Linux and UNIX groupies like you give the community a bad name.

This has nothing to do with Linux or UNIX. This is the gaming entertainment industry and an oversized, broken oil tanker leaking its decrepid monopoly resources upon a growing industry. Stick your unrelated platform opinions elsewhere.

And what was wrong with trying to buy Nintedo?

As I said, this is no ordinary company trying to buy Nintendo. While Microsoft has produced numerous PC games, the console industry, prior to the X-Box, is uncharted by Microsoft. Their purchase of one of the leading brand figures, based upon their monopoly, is theoretically disastrous.

so the product will be even better?

Even the most innate of /.'ers is familiar with Microsoft definition of "better". "What's good for us is good for the industry."

Do you accuse Saturn to rip off Ford because they're making cars.

Pick your fight with someone else. Until you've actually been to the dealer and have been showered by the unexpected attention they pay to their customers, keep your keys out of the ignition and your trunk shut.

Re:Typical M$ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423314)

The rules changed once Microsoft was declared as a monopoly. We now have reason to believe that any buyout of Nintendo is simply a tactic for Microsoft to gain control of the gaming industry--not an attempt to improve this industry.

Of course, Microsoft does not have a monopoly in the video game industry, nor would buying Nintendo grant them a monopoly. There is a certain very powerful video game mfgr. Cough ... Sony ... cough.

Re:Typical M$ (1)

Shivall (573691) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423328)

He, of course, said it was a *tactic* to gain control of the industry, with Nintendo out of the way MS would only have Sony to deal with, which wouldn't be *too* difficult if they had the backing of Nintendo's numerous popular franchises plus their own franchises...They'd have the children's market cornered already, the adult industry is not too hard to crack into.

Re:Typical M$ (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423259)

If you can't beat 'em, buy 'em.

Reminds me of the Simpson's episode where Homer offers Internet access.

what an idiotic comment (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423290)

if you actually look at how business in america work, you would know that's microsoft's not the only company that buys a lot of other companies.
Mergers and Aquisitions are a very important tool for strong growth. It works out for both parties, and it saves the time and hassle of doing the same thing in-house.
Microsoft has actually been very smart with this, compared to bunches of other companies in the dotcom boom days. They didn't overpay for some shitty startup company.

Re:Typical M$ (3, Interesting)

bmetz (523) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423308)

Pioneered my ass. It plainly said in the Netscape executable that the report-bugs-back-to-netscape technology was licensed from some other company. (This is to say nothing of the shitload of licensed technology in Netscape)

Welcome to the real world, where software engineering decisions involve deciding whether buying technology is a more soft effective idea than producing technology.

Re:Typical M$ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423389)

the report-bugs-back-to-netscape technology was licensed from some other company
Full Circle Software [fullcirclesoftware.com]

Nintendo franchised reimagined by Microsoft... (5, Funny)

Navius Eurisko (322438) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423148)

Super Mario Bros: "Hey, kids, itsa Mario! I wanna taka some time from da game, to tell you about the dangers of competition in da OS market. If da 9 US states of Bowser have their way, competition will enter da OS market and Yoshi willa die! Mama Mia!"

Pokemon: "Picachoo just evolved into the most stable, user friendly, Pokemon ever: XPachoo!"

Legend of Zelda: "Link, Hyrule can only be saved from the evil free office suite spread by Ganon by gathering the three pieces of Mircosoft Office to form the triad!"

An offtopic question (re: Germany) (1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423150)

Is there serious sentiment in Germany to ban all violent video games due to the recent tragedy? I know Slashdot readers will not support such a measure, but I am wondering if anyone has insight into the opinions of the general populace.

(Of course this is offtopic, but unless JonKatz posts a story about this I have no where else to ask.)

Re:An offtopic question (re: Germany) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423181)

(Of course this is offtopic, but unless JonKatz posts a story about this I have no where else to ask.)

Haha! good one.

Re:An offtopic question (re: Germany) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423340)

Germans are influenced by Video Games? What kind of game was Hitler playing?

Re:An offtopic question (re: Germany) (-1)

YourMissionForToday (556292) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423347)

It was one of those fucking Final Fantasy games about grabbing the crystals and saving the world, for sure...

Re:An offtopic question (re: Germany) (2, Insightful)

Fat Casper (260409) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423369)

I'm impressed. You managed to use "insight" and "opinions of the general populace" in the same sentance while keeping a straight face. Just keep on holding your breath- Jon Katz ought to put your question on the front page next friday or so.

Re:An offtopic question (re: Germany) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423410)

Why? They're the stars of Wolf 3D and RTCW.

Internationally.. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423154)

..this would only have helped put MS ahead in the game. Outside of North America, XBox sales are weak (to say the least). It goes to reason, however, that with the Nintendo name behind the console (including the good hardware/game engineering that goes into Nintendo products) that the Japanese and European markets would have taken MS' offering a little more seriously.

Other Codenames Considered.... (5, Funny)

shr3k (451065) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423156)

The fact that the initial code name was Project Midway -- they don't want the Japanese people to know that because it will hurt their feelings."

Well, it could have been worse. Project Hiroshima anyone? It will obliterate the competition!

Re:Other Codenames Considered.... (2)

AnimeFreak (223792) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423278)

Project Nagasaki would be the successor.

Hmmmm... (0, Troll)

NickRob (575331) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423158)

Makes you wonder if Halo would've been as disappointing.

Re:Hmmmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423191)

Halo? Disappointing? Did I read that right?

Thank God (0, Troll)

NSupremo (161699) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423159)

That this did not happen.

Buy the GOOD stuff up and make people buy SHIT. That's microsofts motto.

Re:Thank God (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423193)

Or, just pretend you can do better. That's the Linux motto.

Yeah GAY (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423162)

there would've been games out about ballerinas and horchatas. because Microsoft is GAY. and I mean that literally. There is a large left-wing conspiracy with Bill Gates, trying to turn America into a gay haven to rescue them from Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, and Indonesia.

Thank God. (1)

Tokerat (150341) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423165)

Without going into a huge rant here, I'll express my thankfulness that this did not happen.

THERE IS A GOD.

I got into computers with the hope of one day becomming a programmer for a game company, hopefully Nintendo. If MS had bought them out I'd have found an alternative employer. The Bungie buyout was disapointing enough...

Shigeru Miyamoto (1, Insightful)

alphaseven (540122) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423166)

Why didn't they just offer a tenth of that 25 billion to Miyamoto? He's the Steven Spielberg of video games, and he'd be the primary boon for buying Nintendo (aside from the Pokemon liscense).

Re:Shigeru Miyamoto (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423182)

alphaseven writes:
Miyamoto? He's the Steven Spielberg of video games
Are you saying Miyamoto is a Jew?

Re:Shigeru Miyamoto (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423305)

miyamoto will never sell out!

Re:Shigeru Miyamoto (2)

kubrick (27291) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423404)

He's the Steven Spielberg of video games

Hardly high praise in my book. I'd rather buy games by the Orson Welles or Robert Altman of video games (any ideas? :)

we are (0, Troll)

EricBoyd (532608) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423169)

Microsoft of Borg. Resistance is futile! You will be assimilated into our "XBox" plans...

Websurfing done right! StumbleUpon [stumbleupon.com]

Re:we are (1)

kz45 (175825) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423291)

Microsoft of Borg. Resistance is futile! You will be assimilated into our "XBox" plans

if you think about it, linux is more like the borg than microsoft is (they are more like the klingons).

the borg: they all work together as one, to create a super-force.

Re:we are (1)

Dave_bsr (520621) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423413)

Yeah, but we don't beat people up to make them assimilated. Microsoft is like the blob, eating and consuming and sucking up everything. haha. sucking. some reason, i'm not laughing too much.

we're like the People's Coalition of Peaceful Forces. We will protect you, provided you help protect us. GPL baby, yeah. We aren't that big but we are growing. Microsoft is the current, abusive monstrosity, that is consuming and crushing and harming the people, but for now it may be easier to stay in the Kingdom of Microsoft than running away. But we're still getting refugees.

Microsoft (-1)

Serial Troller (556155) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423188)

How innovative of them. You're all a bunch of filthy commies anyway.

SuperMicrosoftWorld (0, Troll)

meth88 (550714) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423190)

Its a mee!!! Microsoft Bawb!!!!

Re:SuperMicrosoftWorld (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423260)

Man, that is just obscure on two too many levels :).

~~~

Re:SuperMicrosoftWorld (1)

Dave_bsr (520621) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423406)

I get it. I laughed. *high-five*.

Nintendo didn't need the money (5, Interesting)

Alien54 (180860) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423198)

The GameCube Eurpoe Site had a short story on this earlier:

www.cube-europe.com/news/10198973416591.html [cube-europe.com]

This sound bite is the best:

When interviewing Nintendo's U.S president Minoru Arakawa, he let slip that Nintendo 'weren't sure what to think when Microsoft made the offer.'' He continued with the commments "I was surprised, we didn't need the money. I thought it was a joke."

sums it up nicely for me

Does anyone see... (1)

hackwrench (573697) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423212)

the existence of the X-Box weakening sales for Nintendo making it more susceptible if Microsoft should want to buy them later?

Re:Does anyone see... (1)

Hyperfrog (575345) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423256)

No.. mostly because M$ is an outsider trying to break in while Nintendo is THE platform (no Mario puns intended) from which consoles sprung. Oh, the X-box will have an impact, after all some people are buying them.. but at the end of the day (oh, as such, at the end of the E3):
The biggest games console nation is: Japan.
The best place to try and take over the world of consoles: Japan.
Who just turned down M$? Nintendo.
Who gets bigger and more powerful because of their toehold? Nintendo.

Oh.. and a last point: M$ must realise that as soon as their name is on something many people will go 'urg! Microsoft! no!'

Game over M$, you are the weakest link, Goodbye!

Who Microsoft SHOULD Buy (5, Interesting)

Rayonic (462789) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423214)

Enix.

You've heard of them, right? They put out that little Dragon Quest/Warrior series, the seventh of which is the all-time best selling game in Japan. Heck, there's even a Japanese law saying that Enix can only release a new DQ game on a weekend, because otherwise millions of kids/adults will skip school/work just to get their hands on it ASAP and play it all day.

Even the mere announcement that the next Dragon Quest game will be an Xbox exclusive would guarantee the console's success in Japan. It's like Japanese gamers wouldn't have a choice in the matter. They'd need Dragon Quest 8, and thus they would need an Xbox, no matter what.

Re:Who Microsoft SHOULD Buy (1)

ShadowDrgn (114114) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423342)

In the entire life of the Playstation, Enix only managed one new Dragon Quest release. It's taking them 3-4 years between them while other rpg companies are cranking out almost one per year and still maintaining high quality. Sure they don't individually sell as much as a DQ game, but I'm sure Square is very happy with their total sales of FF7-9. The point here is that no news about DQ8 has been released, and with Enix's delay record, sites are anticipating the next sequel to be sometime in 2004. The XBox needs something a bit sooner to survive in Japan.

I suppose ... (1)

theCyde (574501) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423215)

I suppose that the "X-Cube" was never meant to be.

Re:I suppose ... (-1)

Pen1s Goat Guy (535580) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423327)

Nor the "X-Doll [realdoll.com] ".

assimilate! (1)

mister sticky (301125) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423248)

methinks this article should be under the 'Microsoft' topic.
Just think if this buyout had gone through...
gamecube? ..hmmmmm

anway.. this reminds me of a good ol' borg joke

Q: How many Borg does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
A: All of them.

Pikachu for MS Office (5, Funny)

famazza (398147) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423270)

If MS had bought Nintendo then Pikachu could be an MS Office Assistent.

THAT would be cool.

Re:Pikachu for MS Office (1)

compwiz3688 (98919) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423288)

One problem. Clip will still talk to you in English (thank God!), but Pikachu might keep telling you to Pika Pika Pikachu.

MS is One F***ed Up Company (2, Insightful)

BurritoWarrior (90481) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423276)

According to the artivle, the Xbox project was originally called project Midway????

They have got to be kidding, naming a project after the naval battle in WWII that turned the tide in the Pacific. Thus, in MS' mind, they are "at war" with the Japanese over the game console industry and hope to "turn the tide" with the Xbox.

How utterly distatsteful to people who gave their lives in such battles, and how *especially* disgusting and disrespectful that must be to the Japanese.

I am dumbfounded. How about Toyota calling the next Camry project Pearl Harbor.

Microsoft continually amazes and disgusts me beyond belief.

Re:MS is One F***ed Up Company (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423289)

They should have called it Hiroshima, or maybe Nagasaki.

Re:MS is One F***ed Up Company (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423302)

"Midway" could refer to the "Bally/Midway" company that brought us Pac Man, etc.

Re:MS is One F***ed Up Company (2)

phillymjs (234426) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423326)

According to the artivle, the Xbox project was originally called project Midway????

I don't remember the details exactly, and came up empty after 5 minutes of Googling, but...

Years ago, a WWII veteran either sued or just caused a big stink because he bought a VCR made by a Japanese company (Panasonic, I believe). What upset him so was that the manual's example for setting the date and time showed the date being set to December 7 (Pearl Harbor Day, for the especially dense), and this offended him.

~Philly

Midway (3, Insightful)

The Monster (227884) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423367)

They have got to be kidding, naming a project after the naval battle in WWII that turned the tide in the Pacific
Uh... you ever hear of the Midway division of Bally? You know, the folks who bought the US
rights to Pac-Man from Namco (a Japanese company)? I always thought their name was based
on the notion of a carnival Midway; I suspect that Namco's executives, if they even thought about
it, either shared that idea, or didn't care so long as they got paid.

--
Fight wide posts! Put in your own <br>

Whew! (3, Funny)

phillymjs (234426) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423295)

Thank God this deal didn't go through. The combined evil of Microsoft and Nintendo would have reached critical mass, collapsed inward on itself and formed a black hole that would surely have destroyed us all.

Years ago, after reading about all the shifty crap that Nintendo pulled in this book [amazon.com] , I started thinking of them as the Microsoft of Japan. Price fixing, exclusivity deals with retailers to lock out competitors, the lockout chip feature in their carts, lots of different stuff. Nintendo and Microsoft already have a lot of similar pages in their respective playbooks.

Microsoft was probably salivating at the thought of having a viselike grip on people's lives from the time they fire up their first video game as a kid, until the final time they turn off their PC before going on to die in their sleep later that night. Luckily for us, the X-Box is proving to be an also-ran, so we won't have to worry about it.

~Philly

ATARI may own MS... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423296)

all depends on how big microsloth thinks it is.

but that is a trs-80 intercept from about 15 years ago, getting news on pluto is a pain.

MSMari~1 (4, Funny)

Jon_Sy (225913) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423303)

Can you see it now?

First, Mario kills Luigi, who is unnecessary competition. Of course, he has nothing to fear from Bowser: his employer has proprietary rights to hellfire. Soon the Kuppas will be building Mario's .NET empire, while the courts are paid off with funding from Yoshi's magic mushroom factory.

hey timothy (-1, Offtopic)

Shaklee3 (576563) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423309)

who gives a FLYING FUCK, you are a retard timothy

If only I could (2)

WildBeast (189336) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423310)

If I could buy Nintendo I would, but I can't afford it, so instead I'll sell myself to MS for $25 billion. Unless someone else have an interesting offer?

Re:If only I could (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423408)

And I assume you had a point in there somewhere?

Deja vu? (1)

Quadraphonic (220428) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423312)

If my memory serves me correctly, when MS decided that they wanted to get into the online-service market, they tried to by AOL. Is there anything new under the sun?

Re:Deja vu? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423383)

So the X-box and MSN can both be considered results of "Plan 'B'?"

What if ...? (1)

ZZabinski (413487) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423321)

If this had gone through, would M$ now own the Seattle Mariners? It's difficult to imagine Bill Gates being a sports guy .. but I guess Mark Cuban was able to make the transition pretty well.

my life is a mixture of reggaes and tangos (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423352)

maybe not the first post

probably not the last post

but for sure a MIDDLE POAZT

agagagagghahahhhaha

Makes sence (2)

Edmund Blackadder (559735) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423356)

When entering a new market it is always easier to buy another company (if you can afford it) rather than try to force your way in there. When you buy another company you get consumer base, brandnames expertise etc.

Upcoming releases for the XP-Cube.. MS64.. MSNES (0)

bryans (555149) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423378)

Bomberman XP Legend of Bill Super MS Bros. Bill Gates Pro Skater 2 Pokemon Stadium XP MSWorld XP

Dr. Pierce discusses the Jewish Problem (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423384)

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