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Commerce Department Cool to CBDTPA

timothy posted more than 12 years ago | from the commerce-meets-anti-commerce dept.

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L. J. Beauregard writes: "Wired reports that the Commerce Department is not too thrilled about S.2048. Commerce Secretary James Rogan claims that 'the DMCA carefully balances the interests of all stakeholders,' a claim that marks him for a corporate whore, but it seems that there are some things even whores won't do."

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Zionist scheming (-1)

Ralph JewHater Nader (450769) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423568)

Commerce is the realm of the shadowy kike.

Re:Zionist scheming (-1)

Pr0n K1ng (160688) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423583)

Congratz on the first post!

Get it in you!

Pixel of Ralph JewHater Nader's GOTHIC white wife (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423829)

Good lord, no wonder Ralph JewHater Nader reads slashdot so much. With a wife like this [] , who can't blame him! Everyday, i'm sure it feels like: HOUSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM...

first (-1, Offtopic)

StrandgecK (547293) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423570)


Re:first (-1)

diaper_tales (575224) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423582)

get in the oven, you dumb jew.

Re:first (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423615)

um, go fuck your grandma, beeyotch.

while yer at it, choke the fucking life outta her... there's a good little pervert!

Re:first (-1)

diaper_tales (575224) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423632)

i love my grandmother. she's a wise and beautiful woman with so much experience, so many stories to share. she was taco_snotting back before television, cars, or mexico had been invented.

Re:first (0, Offtopic)

willki (20190) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423618)

Time for a lesson on first posts, the /. way....

1) When taking the first post, remember to make it relatively short ( you can't have anybody else beat you to the punch, can you?)
2) Make sure you have at least one thing mispelled. you don't want to look like you've had a first post typed up on notepad forever waiting for the right time.
3) make sure you have a clever subject that will get by the Slashdot topic bots. ( "EFF PEE" works well).
4) Make sure you use "sux0r" and "rox0r" in your post. It will give others the impression you are "1337"
5) Declare yourself as the greatest, simply on the fact that you have the first post.
6) Give a count of how many FP's you have.
7) make sure you include a link to
Having followed these guidelines, a true first post would look like this:

FiRsT P0sT!!!!! I rox0r! You all sux0r! This is my 36th FP! Cehck out this page[] I 0wn j00 all!!!!! First post!!!!!!!

Re:first (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423807)

go fuck yourself

Go and fuck yourselves! (-1)

Bitter Old Man (572131) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423850)

Eat shit and die, every last one of you!


Ten Rules of Anal Sex (GET IT IN YOU!@#) (-1)

diaper_tales (575224) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423573)

1. Anal intercourse is the least practiced form of anal sex.

There are many ways to enjoy the anus erotically. The most common techniques include touching the anal opening while masturbating or stimulating a partner's anus during intercourse or oral sex.

Some people enjoy the sensation of a finger - their own or a lover's - insinuated into their anal opening and gently rotated. Others may prefer the insertion of a dildo or vibrator beyond the anal opening and short anal canal into the larger rectum. Many men, including hetereosexuals, prefer this form of penetration.

Oral-anal lovemaking is popularly known as rimming. The very idea disgusts some people. Others enjoy performing it or allowing themselves to be probed in this special way.

2. Anal stimulation, including intercourse, is not painful if done properly.

The belief that anal stimulation, especially intercourse, has to hurt is a persistent and dangerous myth. Just as pain anywhere in the body indicates that something is wrong, so is the same true of the anal area. With its high concentration of nerve endings, the anus can produce extreme agony when it is mistreated. Yet it can be a source of great pleasure.

When a finger, object or penis is intorduced into the anus, the anal muscles go into spasm, as if fighting off an invasion. Pain will result if the partners do not wait for these muscles to relax. Under sufficient stress they will eventually collapse and the pain subside, unless further damage is done. But, any 'pleasure' afforded from this kind of activity derives mostly from the absence of discomfort.

Maximum anal pleasure requires the elimination of all pain or physical trauma from the anal experience. Self-protection on the part of the passive partner involves being ready to say "no" until he or she is ready to proceed. Readiness is a combination of physical relaxation, usually helped along by plenty of leisurely anal touching, and desire.

Occasionally the anal muscles are relaxes, but the passive partner is still not in the mood. Stimulation should mount only in proportion to the degree of receptivity.

3. Anal sex can be enjoyed even if it has been consistently uncomfortable in the past.

Sufficient desire alone does not necessarily guarantee pleasurable anal sex. Nor is an uncomfortable previous experience always the reason for a lack of interest in or desire for anal sex.

Chronic anal tension is the most common cause of anal discomfort during sex. Hemorrhoids and constipation are usually a sign of this condition. Tension can be relieved by touching the anus and becoming more familiar with it. An ideal time to explore the anal opening is while taking a shower or bath. Deep breathing also affects the anal muscles. Tensing the anus and the letting go in another way of learning to relax it. Anyone who enjoys masturbation might want to experiment with some form of anal stimulation, though he or she should stop if any discomfort occurs.

For many people the turning point in anal sex is when they allow a partner to massage the anus with the understanding that intercourse will not be attempted. Then the recipient of anal caresses can concentrate solely on the pleasure that this erogenous zone is capable of generating.

4. Two muscle rings called sphincters surround the anal opening. Each functions independently.

If you insert a finger about one half-inch into your anus and press your fingertip against the side, you can clearly feel the two sphincter muscles. There is less than a quarter-inch between them. The external sphincter is controlled by the central nervous system - just like the muscles of the hand, for example. You can readily tense and relax this sphincter whenever you want.

The internal sphincter is quite different. This muscle is controlled by the involuntary or autonomic part of the nervous system, which governs such functions as heartbeat and stress response.

The internal sphincter reflects and responds to fear and anxiety during anal sex. It will cause the anus to tense up automatically even if the passive partner is trying to relax. Thus, precautions about safety and comfort are essential here.

Even if a person does feel comfortable during anal sex, he or she may still need to learn voluntary control over his or her internal sphincter in order to relax it at will. Doing so requires regularly inserting a finger, perhaps in the shower each day, and feeling the internal sphincter. The muscle changes spontaneously and in response to behavior. In this instance, simply paying attention is more important than trying to relax. Anyone can gradually learn to control the internal sphincter at will.

5. Anal stimulation provides many kinds of pleasure

The highest concentration of nerve endings is around the anal opening itself. A finger can focus on them especailly effectively. When an object or penis is inserted beyond the anal opening into the rectum, other pleasures are involved. The outer protion of the rectum, like the vagina, has several nerve endings. The inner portion responds mostly to pressure.

Some people enjoy the feelings of pressure and fullness once they understand that these sensations do not presage an impending bowel movement. Rectal pressure is especially important to enthusiasts of "fisting," a form of anal sex in which several fingers or een the entire hand and forearm are inserted into the rectum and sometimes into the lower colon.

In men, the protate - which is just beyond the rectal wall, a few inches in, towards the front of the body - can be a source of pleasure when massaged by a finger, an object, or a penis. Also, the lower end of the penis, or "bulb," is near the anal opening opening. It is stimulated indirectly by most types of anal sex.

Anal pleasure can be psychological as well as physical. The anal taboo adds to the thrill of the forbidden. The most common anti-anal message (it's dirty!) sometimes returns as a source of raunchy, sleazy excitement. Rimming enthusiasts may enjoy the feeling that they are being disgustingly - and delightfully - perverse. Other people regard the anus as a secret, special place. Sharing it with a partner is an act of openness and giving.

6. Anal stimulation can lead to orgasm

A minority of men and women can respond orgasmically to anal sex without direct genital stimulation. Women probably do so through pelvic muscle contractions - and a small minority even though the sheer excitement of being anally penetrated. When men expereience an orgasm from anal stimulation, they tend to focus on the prostate. No doubt they are also responding to indirect stimulation of the penile bulb.

Orgasms from anal stimulation are most likely to occur when the participants become thoroughly absorbed in their sensations and fantasies. An lmost certain way to prevent such an orgasm is to be become determined to have one. Seeking an anal orgasm will create new pressures and disrupt the pleasure.

It must be remembered that most people require direct genital stimulation in order to climax. On the other hand, a few people have orgasms only with anal stimulation.

7. Diet contributes to the enjoyment of anal sex

Regular bowel movements are the major function of the anus and rectum. There must be sufficient fiber in a person's diet to make his or her feces soft, bulky and well formed. This allows a bowel movement to be produced without force or effort. Forced evacuations irritate anal tissues, causing discomfort and adding to muscular tensions. Fresh fruits, vegetables, whole grains or unprocessed bran are important sources of fiber.

8. Different rules of hygiene apply to the vagina and rectum

Since intercourse can be vaginal or rectal, many people assume the the same rules apply for the penetration of the vagina and rectum. Although both are lined with soft tissue and are capable of expanding, they are radically dissimilar.

The rectum is not straight. After the short anal canal which connects the anal opening to the rectum, the rectum tilts toward the front of the body. A few inches in, it curves back - sometimes as much as 90 degrees. Then, after a few more inches, it swoops toward the front of the body once again. A person can learn about the shape of his or her rectum by gently inserting a soft object, trying different angles and body positions and concentrating on how it feels. Make sure the object has a flared base so that if you loose your grip, it won't slip into the rectum and become irretrievable.

The rectum does not produce lubrication like the vagina but only a small amount of mucus. Therefore, rectal penetration always requires a lubricant. Chemical additives should be avoided. Water-based lubricants are latex-compatible.

The main function of the rectum is to act as a passageway for feces. But feces are not normally stored in the rectum except just prior to a bowel movement. Yet small amounts may remain in the rectum, expecially if the feces are not well formed. Anal douching before lovemaking will help some people especailly concerned with cleanliness to relax. For others the idea of dirtiness heightens the joy of the forbidden; for them, douching is anti-erotic.

9. Anal intercourse is not necessarily an act of dominance and submission.

The top-bottom imagery associated with anal intercourse is widespread. No doubt the belief that anal sex has to hurt contributes to this notion. And in fact some people are intensely excited by top-bottom fantasies about anal sex. The thought that they are submitting to such a degrading act is a terrific thrill. However, actual, not fantasized, anal pain can lead to trouble.

For others, the enjoyment of anal sex is inhibited by top-bottom imagery. The idea of surrendering control, and perhaps submitting to humiliation, causes immediate, protective tensing of the anal muscles. These individuals are more likely to relax and enjoy themselves if they can learn to regard anal sex as pleasurable rather than as an expression of power.

10. Anal sex can be perfectly safe, even beneficial.

The taboo against anal eroticism is perpetuated by the almost universal belief among physicians that anal sex is inevitably dangerous. No physical injury from anal stimulation results if both partners refuse to tolerate pain, never use force and avoid the use of drugs.

All the other risks center on sexually transmitted diseases. Each of the common STDs - gonorrhea, syphillis, herpes - can affect the anus. Intestinal parasites, bacteria or tiny bugs are usually passed along when fecal matter finds its way into someone's mouth or vagina, most likely through rimming.

AIDS has complicated the matter. The HIV virus can pass from the semen or blood of an infected person to the bloodstream of a partner through a tiny break in the rectal tissue during anal intercourse.

To avoid this risk, anal intercourse and rimming should not be practiced casually. Those who do enjoy anal intercourse should always use a condom. Rimming should always be accomplished by a latex barrier. Of course, in a monogamous realtionship with two healthy people, the risk of disease transmitted anally is reduced.

Thousands of men and women with chronic anal medical problems have restored their anal health by challenging their negative attitudes. This approach is indespensible for full erotic enjoyment of the anus.

South Park Mexican-Live and in Concert! (-1)

YourMissionForToday (556292) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423586)

Now that the Spider-Man movie is coming to theaters, I'd like to take a moment to clarify a few of the myths that have surrounded the Spider-Man universe for the past few years. Specifically, I'd like to address the origin of pop-culture catchphrase "the Spider-Man boner," as in, "Weezer gives me a Spider-Man boner!," "Sorry, I can't go out tonight, I have a Spider-Man boner!," or, "That is like, so, Spider-Man boner."

Myth:In Amazing Spider-Man #1 Peter Parker, or Spider-Man, coins the phrase "With great power comes great responibility," in reference to his super-powers and crimefighting.

Spider-Man feels that his super-powers give him a greater civic responsibility than the rest of us, and because of this, he fights crime.

Fact: Spider-Man actually said, "With great power, comes...Oh good god! I'm so fucking hard right now!"

Being bitten by a radioactive spider didn't just give Peter Parker amazing spider-powers. Nope, it also kinked his brain in a very unique way: crimefighting became an aphrodisiac to him.

Myth: Spider-Man's costume was designed to strike fear into the hearts of criminals.

Admittedly, many people are afraid of spiders, but the blue and red tones don't exactly strike fear.

Fact: Spider-Man's costume was designed to downplay the bulges in his crotchocological region.

Notice the busy black "webbing" pattern that steers the eyes to the middle of the chest, and the gentle color sloping that brings the eyes down towards the boots without emphasizing the crotch. This is because Spidey's chronic ( and often painful) priapism is linked to his career as a costumed do-gooder. He doesn't want anyone to see his perpetual crime-fighting inspired erection, but there it is, poking out underneath his tights despite his greatest efforts. And thus, the expression "Spider-Man" boner was born.

Myth: Spider-Man has sexual intercourse with his enemies.

So, you see Spidey happily webslinging from building to building, just after trapping Doctor Octopus and saving the city. You see the erection, and perhaps even an unfortunate stain, and you think, "He and Doc Ock probably had some rough sex just like Michael Douglas!"

Fact:Spider-Man is faithful to his wife.

Besides some drunken, clumsy rooftop sex between he and Felicia Hardy (aka the Black Cat) after an office party in 1999, Spidey has always remained faithful to Mary Jane, his bride. While fighting crime remains an incredibly arousing experience for the wall-crawler, his outward expressions of lust remain limited to his marriage partner. Mary Jane herself has no problem with this-"As long as New York has muggers, we'll never need Viagra!" she quipped in a recent interview with Vogue.

When you go to see the Spider-Man feature, remember that Spidey isn't completely altruistic-he does get quite a charge out of it. And if you ever get a chance to see him, be sure to tell him, "Great job fighting crime!" and let him know that you don't mind that he has a big boner-it's all part of God's plan.

Re:South Park Mexican-Live and in Concert! (-1)

diaper_tales (575224) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423596)

what about his websauce? what's it really made out of?

Re:South Park Mexican-Live and in Concert! (-1)

YourMissionForToday (556292) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423643)

Eat a dick, you cockloving hippie!

Re:South Park Mexican-Live and in Concert! (-1)

diaper_tales (575224) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423690)

why are you treating me like this? i have feelings, you know.

Oh yeah? (0, Flamebait)

Kymermosst (33885) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423592)

Look at CowboyNeal... now there's a whore who will do anything! (watch at the polls)

On a side note, at least one arm of the executive branch doesn't like the CBDTPA... maybe that'll mean a veto if it gets to the Prez.

Re:Oh yeah? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423602)

No kidding. When I told him to eat my shit he had no problems swallowing it all. That is one sick motherfucker.

Re:Oh yeah? (1)

jlt116 (572188) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423641)

Veto? I pray it doesn't get that far. There can't be that many Media Whores on the Hill... can there?

Re:Oh yeah? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423665)

I don't know about you -- but if it gets as far as the prez in the first place I get a feeling POTUS isn't going to veto it -- just my gut feeling.


You forget one thing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423593)

You don't understand just how far this government goes. It goes all the way to the president!

OMG (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423595)

This is perhaps *the* most boring and lame post I have read on Slashdot.

And that is saying alot, because Slashdot is *REALLY* sucking lately.

Re:OMG (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423619)

"nooz fer turds, shit that splatters"

Re:OMG (-1)

diaper_tales (575224) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423622)

m0d p4r3nt up!@
+!1 OMG

Technicalities (1)

millisa (151093) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423601)

James Rogan is the Under Secretary of Commerce.
A whore gets money for doing their master's bidding.
A slut does stuff without monetary compensation.
I propose his title be changed to Slutty UnderSecretary of Commerce or 'SUC' (ok, I'm reaching here) for short.
Seeing as he is also the Director of the US Patent and Trademark Office, I'd also suggest his title to be extended to 'SUC US PTO'.

Re:Technicalities (1)

Tremo (530922) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423726)

Isn't Rogan also one of those Republican party hacks who was very active in the House's prosecution of Clinton's impeachment? He was almost as abrasive as Bob Barr.

Re:Technicalities (2)

ncc74656 (45571) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423861)

Isn't Rogan also one of those Republican party hacks who was very active in the House's prosecution of Clinton's impeachment?

Before you get on your high horse, you would do well to remember that it was your pal Slick Willie who signed the DMCA into law. (I could crack a joke about how that ought to be justification enough for his impeachment, but that would be piling on.) Think about it for a beholden do you think an administration would be to a media elite that has pretty much nothing but hostility toward it?

Left-wingers have never been known to let the truth get in the way of an argument, though...why do you think we had eight years of lies, quibbles, and equivocations?

Re:Technicalities (2)

ncc74656 (45571) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423874)

Here's more to think about when you wonder who your friends was linked at the bottom of the article:,1283,50754,00 . tml []

Selected paragraphs from the article:

During a packed hearing before the Senate Commerce Committee, Democrats appeared far more eager for the government to intervene in what has become a highly visible tussle between Silicon Valley, which advocates a laissez-faire approach, and the Hollywood firms lobbying Congress to step in to prevent piracy....

Republicans appeared much more skeptical of the SSSCA -- which is, after all, championed by a Democratic committee chairman -- and argued legislation would be too interventionist.

In the 2000 election cycle, the entertainment industry gave Democrats a whopping $24.2 million in contributions compared to $13.3 million to Republicans, according to figures compiled by

Re:Technicalities (-1)

October_30th (531777) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423949)


I just wanted to point out that James Rogan sounds like James Grogan.

Thank you for your attention.

Legislative Agenda (5, Interesting)

MrBrklyn (4775) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423608)

This is really not as bad news as it might seems, and it gives those of us main stream advocates a chance to expose just how radical the position of the MPAA is.

What we need to do is capitilize on this opportunity and expose the radical enemies of the public for the political radicals that they are. In addition, the MPAA is showing us exactly how to take the steps necessary to defend our fourth amemndment rights under the US Constitution in regard to digital media and privately owned digital devices.

NY Fairuse [] is willing, with the help of it's sister organization, NYLXS [] , and with broad co-operation, it begin in Manhattan in May to gather together a broad coalition of IT Industry members, Librarians, Educators, Free Software Advocates, musicians, artisits, actors, and Internet Information Providers the Digital Property Protection Discussion Group.

The purpose of forming this group is to draft and pass legislation which protects individuals 4th amendment rights with regard to their digital devices and media.

The legislation to be drafted will accomplsih the following main stream objectives which all reasonable people can expect:

All copyrights to individual scores, writings, and recordings will be returned to the original artist after a period of 10 years.

No technology can be deployed which spies on, wiretaps or descloses privately owned information which is stored on digital devices by any government agency or private 3rd party without the issuance of a publically pronounced annd disclosed warrant l limited to a specific criminal investigation.

All copyright cases must prove, prior to a judgement of guilt, proof that the actions in question did not infringe on Fair Use, and the individuals rights under the 4th and 1st ammendment of the Bill of rights US Constition.

Ownership of all physical media and devices to read such media, is the sole property of the purchaser of the media, without an expressely negotiated and signed contract between both the copyright holder and the purchaser.

No technological software or hardware method can be deployed in a digital product available for normal retail sale which inhibits in any way the full enjoyment of the property by the purchasers, regardless of any agreement between the designer of the hardware or software products. Such agreements are null, and not contractable.

Copyright is an exception to Fair Use as it limited the ability for individuals to enjoy their private property and express themselves with the use of such copyrighted materials. Fair Use is a doctrin to be based on the 4th and 1st amendments of the Constitutions.

Individuals have the right to express themselves to others about the means, mechanism and workings of all digital devices, including but not limited to discussion on how to make fair use of media, how to improve such devices, or to reverse engineer all such devices and the allgorithims which are used to help them display, copy or run media.

We need to get as many big guns on this as possible and then relentlessly campaign, actively working to elect supporters and unelect opposition. In fact, we should look to defeat, not just the proposed spyware legistlation, but also defeat Senator Hollings

WE CAN force him from office, because he's a radical.


Re:Legislative Agenda (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423749)


I just rattled everyone I could in DC. is the Weiner Cheif of staff
and they are going to send a representitive tomorrow to
sit in on the committee, which is not their committee. Weiner is in
the IP subcommittee in the house of the Judiciary Committee, and this
committee in telecom of the commerce sub committtee.

I'm sending him an email with our position on DRM.

Our position on the Digital Rights Managment on the net is that

First, the government should not mandate any technological means of
assuring Digital Rights Management, and as INTEL said, this is the
problem of the MPIAA, and Music Publishers, and not an issue of the internet.

Secondly, all proposals of Rights management interfer with free competition in
the computer industry, and is contributing to the economic downturn of the internet
by preventing the use of Free Software and ordinary research and developement of
software to expand the use of media in the public at large.

Additionally, DRM, by it's nature, infringes on the 4th Amendment rights of the consumers who
own the media which they buy, and prevent it's normal enjoyment. All DRM schemes require prior
consent to use the property after a cpommon purchase. That is cpmpletely unexceptable.

DRM is an assualt on the educational system and public libraries, by preventing the free
disemination of information to the general public, stifling broad education, and further
disenfranchisong minorities which depend on public education for advancement into the society
at large.

DRM is an extortion racket....PERIOD

We have no use for it and will vote on this issue.
It's destroying the economy, disenranchising our children, crippling our tax base, preventing
competition, worsening the recesssion and targets Free Software, which was the engine which
propelled our economy all throughout the 1990's by making the internet possible.

If DRM is forced on us, and we can't use digital media for expression and education, and after
buying something, you find you can't read something after a limited time, or without an approved
hardware or software device, it is same as if someone banged down my door and stole my whole
CD collection and my Newspaper archive. It prevents me from using MY property and it destroys MY
business. My business is designing systems to read media and productively use information.

Lastly, the Telecom subcommittee should not even be conducting this session since the proper place
for this the IP subcommittee since this is an IP issue.

Re:Legislative Agenda (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423764)

The legisitlative assitiants have their own club in DC and Lamar Robertson has been in constact with a number
of the best people working on this agenda. We need to get people in DC to be available to testify at these
conference meetings because what we've learned is that the participants have NO IDEA about details of Copyright
Law and digital property rights, and they would LOVE to have our input, if it's done intelligently.

We need to also campain to defeat Hollings and make an example of what what happens to elected officials
who oppose private ownership of digital media and trample on our 4th Amendment rights.

Re:Legislative Agenda (2)

56ker (566853) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423839)

Yes - but short of a massive public campaign against this - it's going to go through. The companies that have a vested interest in this make large donations - the parties/ senators wouldn't like to see that stream of revenue disappear. The best that can be hoped for is that it goes through in a modified form.

S.2048 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423609)

hhmmm, 2048, multiple of 8... as in bits in a byte. Consipiracy or coincidence?

"Beware of whores who say they don't want money.. (1)

Dr_Marvin_Monroe (550052) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423611)

What the really want is MORE money, lots more...." William S Burroughs.

Corporate whore? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423612)

I think the use of that word shows more bias than any statements this guy possibly could have made.

Re:Corporate whore? (1)

howardjp (5458) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423616)

Mod this up. This post is pretty brilliant and it shows more insight than the submitter has.

Re:Corporate whore? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423640)

"nooz fer turds, shit that splatters"

shut yer fuckin' whore mouth, bitch...


DMCA /is/ a product of whoredom. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423909)

Now maybe not too polite to call the guy a whore but it's not really stretching the truth either.

Bout damn time (3, Funny)

Brightest Light (552357) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423614)

"Before Congress rushes into the imposition of a legislative solution," Rogan said, "I hope its members will grant more time for the free market to find its own middle ground."

Thank the gods for that. Its about time somebody stands up and says "Hold on a second, lets give business the chance to make their own decisions,
before we step in and legislate for them." I hope that more of this sort of thing happens in the future. I sincerely hope that those in congress decide
to heed Mr.Rogan's words, and their voing reflects it.

Re:Bout damn time (3, Funny)

martissimo (515886) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423716)

i really wish i saw more of a positive angle from this statement, however this line makes me wonder

In a speech last week, Rogan said that "negotiations are presently underway among hardware manufacturers and content owners to develop improved means for protecting online content," and legislators should wait for results before voting on a proposal such as the Hollings bill.

sounds to me basically like he's saying "it's too soon to pass it", lets just warn the hardware people that they better do something soon, before we do pass it.

1 more session of Congress without it being passed is a start, it gives us more time to rally more support, but this certainly doesn't look like the time to back off on applying pressure on the lawmakers

Re:Bout damn time (1)

ealar dlanvuli (523604) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423738)

I am moving to canada if it passes. DMCA tempted me, but this is just absurdity. I loose all respect for america if this actually is voted sucessfully.

Re:Bout damn time (1)

Brightest Light (552357) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423746)

sounds to me basically like he's saying "it's too soon to pass it", lets just warn the hardware people that they better do something soon, before we do pass it.

youve got a good point there

Fascism? (0, Flamebait)

The Original Yama (454111) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423621)

I hate to say this, but it seems as if the USA is becoming increasingly fascist every day. It has a deified leader (as is typical of US presidents) who was not democratically elected; a legislative body that passes laws to promote and protect big corporate interests over citizens, in total disregard of the constitution; belligerent, jingoistic politics that is focussed on an outside "threat" (which was actually created by them in the first place) in order to deflect interest away from problems at home; a Department of Juctice that capitulates to illegal monopolists despite having the upper hand; law enforcement agencies that spy on and censor people; a social policy that leaves people hungry, homeless, undereducated and in poor health; and a whole lot more.

This doesn't sound any different from Nazi Germany. Oh wait... Hitler actually <i>created</i> jobs and <i>improved</i> the standard of living. I guess it's worse then.

Re:Fascism? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423648)

YOU, sir, are quite correct in your observations and remarks... Yes, and if this fucking country is the best country in the world, what does that say about the rest of this miserable planet?

thank you.

Re:Fascism? (2)

NoMoreNicksLeft (516230) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423857)

It's a little less miserable than the rest? God damn, that's certainly something to be proud of. Of all the shitty nations on earth, the good ole' USA is _slightly_ less shitty than the others. We need to write that into our pledge of allegiance or national anthem or something.

It's days like these that make me weep for joy that I'm a citizen.

Re:Fascism my ass (0, Offtopic)

dammy (131759) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423679)

Fascism is a brand of socialism. If you want to fear Fascism, go fear your nearest socialist getting any more power then they already have.

The Pres is NEVER voted in by popular vote. To become POTUS, the delegates of the Electorial College have to elected the person. Nixon could have been a soar loser to JFK, but he bowed out of it in an honorable method. No demanding recounts in Chicago which could have thrown Ill back Nixon because Nixon didn't want to look like a soar loser. Pity Gore didn't have that type of style.

The whole issue of IE intergration is a red hearring. Dual Boot issue should have been the main charge of monopolistic practices. IMO, I really don't care if M$ walks cleanly away. I have Linux, what the hell do I need M$ for?

As far as the other charges of homeless, hunger, health, you better look at the previous administration cuz Bush hasn't changed a damn thing yet as he is continuing Clinton/Gore's policies. That's right, Clinton signed all the above into law. After 8 years of Cliton, the US has nothing to show for it, and that is real shame.


Re:Fascism my ass (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423701)

You RAGING moron. Fascism has no relation whatsoever to socialism. Missed out on PoliSci 101, did you?

Do please go kill yourself and do the world a favor.

Re:Fascism? (1, Offtopic)

Kymermosst (33885) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423737)

Of course. We should have kept recounting the Florida election until it went the other way.

I doubt anyone here sees President Bush as a god. Hate to burst your bubble.

Now, you make an accusation that the legislative body is disregarding the Constitution by passing laws to promote and protect big corporate interests. While I don't disagree about the nature of the laws, I do question your assertion that they are violating the Constitution. Which part?

I will only touch on one other thing you brought up, as I am tired. Social policy. Well, I'm a firm believer that there are plenty of charities out there, and the government doesn't need to be one of them.

I can name a dozen charities that are successful and really help people. I can only name one government program that did the same, and it no longer exists. (the CCC.) I still haven't figured out where people like you get the idea that you should strongarm people like me into giving to beggars on the street like the one who sits at the stoplight a few blocks from here. I happen to know for a fact that he could go to Goodwill or the Society of St. Vincent de Paul and they would help, along with most churches, and many non-religious organizations. Why make the government responsible for a task that is already being done?

Maybe we should just hand them money and make people like me do the work?

You really touched a nerve in me tonight.

You know, I've become unemployed in the past (living in the state with the top unemployment rate in the country right now) and you know what? I went back to school to make myself more qualified. The government is more than willing to loan almost anyone money to go to school. But then again, if you aren't motivated to work (or even try to get a job), why would you bother to put the time into school?

Then again, why do anything at all when the government is making the people who actually do the work pay your way through life? Hey, spit out a few kids and get even more, right?
Hey, why don't we make everyone equal by making a standard wage, no matter what kind of, or lack of work that they have? You know, $20/hour for everyone, both the college grads, and the people who dropped out in 9th grade.

You sit here and cry "fasicsm" all the while insulting people like me who do the best we can in life, and telling us how inhumane we are for trying to be successful on our own accord. Here I am back in college trying to improve my employability so I can be successful, and you tell me that when I become successful, I have to support some drug-addicted high school dropout who fucked his own life up, as if I'm the one who told him not to get a job.

Don't compare me and mine to Nazi Germany, asshole. (My family is from East Prussia, by the way.)

You offend me.

Re:Fascism? (1, Offtopic)

NoMoreNicksLeft (516230) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423769)

You offend me.

Ever try to see things from any view other than the one you have now? Hell, the original poster might be a twit, but he's not all wrong either. I don't want to support bums with my tax dollar either, but you make it sound like that's all welfare ever is.

Hell, but then, with people like you in charge half the time, and people like the original poster in charge the other half, how could it ever be any different?

Re:Fascism? (2, Interesting)

shepd (155729) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423841)

The original poster (before you) violated Godwin's law. If you want to continue the thread leave anything he said about Nazis out of it. That's just a red herring designed to piss everyone off.

Now, ignoring all the BS about Hitler, I have a beef or two with what you've said:

>While I don't disagree about the nature of the laws, I do question your assertion that they are violating the Constitution. Which part?

I'm not totally up on American law, but I'm pretty certain that your constitution guarantees many freedoms (such as freedom of speech). If the CBDTPA is just an extension to the DMCA then it is anti free-speech. Isn't that your first amendment?

>Social policy. Well, I'm a firm believer that there are plenty of charities out there, and the government doesn't need to be one of them.

That certainly can be your opinion (and, fortunately for you and many others the majority disagrees with it), however you can't have it both ways.

>You know, I've become unemployed in the past... I went back to school to make myself more qualified. The government is more than willing to loan almost anyone money to go to school.

You can't have it both ways. You can't use the government acting as a charity (and handing out money for people to go to school without any guarantees they'll get it back is nothing more than a backhanded charity) and not want it being a charity.

>I still haven't figured out where people like you get the idea that you should strongarm people like me into giving to beggars on the street like the one who sits at the stoplight a few blocks from here.

Huh? Did he say for you to walk up to street beggars and give them money? You need a fixed residence to pick up a cheque from the gov't, so if there's anyone you should respect with your views, it would be a street beggar.

Again, another contradiction in your ideas presents itself:

>Then again, why do anything at all when the government is making the people who actually do the work pay your way through life?


>Hey, why don't we make everyone equal by making a standard wage, no matter what kind of, or lack of work that they have? You know, $20/hour for everyone, both the college grads, and the people who dropped out in 9th grade.

I am assuming you think the 9th grader has an easier life. Hate to break it to you but if he gets a job it will not be easy. People say all the time "Gas pumpers and golden arches flippers have it easy". Well, if so why not do their job?. I know why. Becuase the job sucks. Its physically demanding, or mentally annoying. Either way most everyone who graduates college is looking for the cushy, easy way out with a 9-5 desk job pushing paper.

If you want, feel free to reply and clear up what you've just said. Maybe I'm reading you wrong?

Perhaps you're just confused on the meaning of "fascism". It doesn't have anything to do with work, you know.


"A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism"

If you don't consider the president elect (I do consider him elected myself, but by a really thin thread) its easy to see how laws like the DMCA and CBDTPA causes socioeconomic controls (if you don't have the money, you can't participate in society), and suppression of opposition through censorship (DeCSS, anyone?). The other items (nationalism, racism, and terror) tend to be qualitative rather than quantitative, so these are the points that should be argued against the US being fascist. In my opinion the US is still far from it, but bills like this bring it closer and closer to the line.

Wether or not a burger flipper has 10 or 20 babies doesn't really factor into the discussion.

>I have to support some drug-addicted high school dropout who fucked his own life up, as if I'm the one who told him not to get a job.

Where did that come from?

Re:Fascism? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423918)

Your government loan is a form of welfare. Feel free to split hairs.

typo in article (3, Funny)

I Want GNU! (556631) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423625)

the DMCA carefully balances the interests of all
I think that's a type. It should be shareholders, as in shareholdings in the stock of Sen. Ernst Hollings, which is going rather cheaply these days. It carefully balances the interests of shareholders such as Disney with those of the RIAA and MPAA, who hold many shares in other political conglomerations.

Re:typo in article (2)

NoMoreNicksLeft (516230) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423780)

New job title. Legislative broker. The stock market, the currency market, and yes, the legislative interest market.

"And today at the NYSE opening, Sen. Hollings was trading at $17.55 per share, but sharply dropped after a Reuters poll indicates that his election campaign might not go as smoothly as he had hoped. Analysts feel however, that this is only a temporary downturn, and that the stock will rebound by the end of the week..."

Hey, maybe we could use this for campaign finance reform.

"In other news, every major mutual fund has downgraded Pres. Candidate Perot stocks to junk bond status...."

Re:typo in article (2)

Seth Finkelstein (90154) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423969)

There really is such a market. See the Iowa Electronic Markets [] (link seems down, so try the Google cache link to Iowa Electronic Markets []

The Iowa Electronic Markets are real-money futures markets in which contract payoffs depend on economic and political events such as elections. These markets are operated by faculty at the University of Iowa Tippie College of Business as part of our research and teaching mission. We invite you to join us in this mission.
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The almighty dollar. (-1)

cyphixation (454446) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423629)

but it seems that there are some things even whores won't do.

Just keep tacking zeroes on the end of the pricetag.....everyone has their price for everything.

Re:The almighty dollar. (-1)

YourMissionForToday (556292) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423652)

Do you remember that million-dollar freeplicious wrestler the Million Dollar Man? He was awesome. He had the Million Dollar Belt!

SLURP (-1, Troll)

Serial Troller (556155) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423638)

Well, fuck me in the ass with a 72" dildo!

-- Mr. American Consumer

Corporate whores? Indeed. (3, Interesting)

AntiNorm (155641) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423639)

Commerce Secretary James Rogan claims that 'the DMCA carefully balances the interests of all stakeholders,'

Of course it carefully balances the interests of all stakeholders. Thing is, they don't see customers as stakeholders. An argument could be made that customers aren't stakeholders in this sense -- after all, they have no financial stake in whether most CBDTPA-protected works succeed or fail. Never mind the principles that are involved, it's all about money to corporations and to Congress.

a claim that marks him for a corporate whore, but it seems that there are some things even whores won't do

Like pay any attention to whether their customers care about what they're being exposed to? You could make some interesting comparisons here. The corporate whores are exposing their customers to CBDTPA; the rest of the analogy is left to the reader's imagination.

Re:Corporate whores? Indeed. (2, Insightful)

ChadN (21033) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423680)

Replace "customers" with "citizens". The DMCA is not just anti-consumer (which some could legitimately debate), but removes rights that citizens previously had (reverse engineering, study, personal use, etc.) You can infringe and be guilty, even without ever having a "customer" relationship with the sellers (you may just be curious).

Wow! (-1, Troll)

Serial Troller (556155) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423650)

I'd love to read this, but I'm too busy downloading pictures of strap-on anal action to care!! Wow, chicks with rubber dicks!!

Re:Wow! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423656)

you should try to find the ones with the real dicks.

Honest Politician (2)

RWarrior(fobw) (448405) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423651)

Maybe he's honest. You know, an honest politician is one who, once bought, stays bought.

Wow... (-1, Troll)

Serial Troller (556155) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423657)

Man sex... or MONKEY sex!?

Wow! (-1)

Serial Troller (556155) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423661)

Man fæces... or MONKEY fæces!?
(CmdrTaco prefers Monkey. How about you?)

Still not safe... (3, Insightful)

NickRob (575331) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423669)

This isn't a time to rest on our laurels. Congress could still pass this thing. A simple majority wins, and Congress has passed many an unpopular act (USA Patriot anyone?) We still have to email and write letters and protest this thing and reach every single person we can.

We keep recieving good news, but that doesn't mean we should slack off... it means that we should work harder and spread our message. Advocacy works.

Re:Still not safe... (-1)

Serial Troller (556155) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423732)

Actually the PATRIOT act was quite popular. Considering all the jingoistic fools were out for blood, they'd probably let something pass Congress even if it called for nuking the mid-east or arresting every Arab in the country.

Re:Still not safe... (2)

martissimo (515886) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423838)

This isn't a time to rest on our laurels. Congress could still pass this thing. A simple majority wins, and Congress has passed many an unpopular act (USA Patriot anyone?) We still have to email and write letters and protest this thing and reach every single person we can.

Not to be a nitpicker, but the USA Patriot Act was far from unpopular, the public swallowed up all the rhetoric of it, and it flew through congress like greased lightning. It's a poor example. The thing passed with like a 7-1 ratio in the house, and there was a grand total of one vote against it in the senate.

I agree that now is not the time to back off on the Hollings bill, on the contrary i believe that now is the time to turn up the heat in every way we can... but frankly thoose of us who value personal freedoms were definitely in the minority in the immediate aftermath of 9-11 when the Patriot Act passed.

Restrictions on consumers OK, on business not-OK (4, Informative)

Seth Finkelstein (90154) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423670)

The view is that the DMCA is considered OK, because that's a restriction on comsumer's rights for the benefit of businesses. But S.2048 is a restriction on some businesses for the benefit of other businesses. That's another matter entirely.

Take a look at: l-intel_critique.html []
[my comments in brackets]

In his testimony before the Senate Commerce Committee, Intel Executive Vice President Leslie Vadasz courageously spoke out against the Hollywood moguls who are asking Congress make copy controls mandatory in all new technologies. Vadasz expressed skepticism of the demands of copyright industries, which he said "historically feared technology -- from the advent of sound recording, to the development of the VCR, the DVD, the PC, and other digital devices". He explained that innovation must not be sacrificed in an impossible quest to lock down every tool that might be used for infringement.

[Note this is a restriction on some businesses for the benefit of OTHER BUSINESSES. The businesses who would be subject to this restriction obviously don't like that]

By contrast, a March 19 joint statement by Intel Corporation and AOL Time Warner suggests a disappointing change of heart by Intel. The "AOL Time Warner -- Intel Joint Statement of Principles" envisions a world in which corporate negotiations decide consumers' rights, and government outlaws devices falling outside a "consensus" imposed by Hollywood at lawyer-point. According to the joint statement, "The goal of these efforts is to create an overall architecture for protecting digital content throughout its distribution life so that it does not 'leak' out in an unprotected manner" -- with the result that copyright holders shape the digital architecture of the future, retaining the power to control your use of the movies, music and books you buy.

[Note this is a restriction on consumer's right for the benefit of businesses. The businesses love that.]

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Little Excessive (5, Insightful)

ender81b (520454) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423671)

a claim that marks him for a corporate whore, but it seems that there are some things even whores won't do

Allright, now listen - I hate the CBBLAH & DMCA, etc like everyone else. But, come on now, is it REALLY necassary to call them whores when posting this news to the site? ATTENTION SLASHDOT EDITORS: it doesn't make you look very professional or worthy of respect when you result to cheap tactics like this.

Leave it to people like ME to call them whores but please not on the main page. it just doesn't give us a very solid position to argue from if you result to name-calling on the main page.

Re:Little Excessive (1)

Finni (23475) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423689)

You should note that the 'whore' comment was, in fact, in italics. This indicates that it was written by the submitter, not the editor.

Re:Little Excessive (2)

ender81b (520454) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423702)

Yes. But the editor was the one who decided to put that on the front page.

Re:Little Excessive (2)

Issue9mm (97360) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423884)

And you would prefer what? That the editor censored it because it wasn't a publicly accepted/acceptable viewpoint? Moved on to another post that didn't contain the offending remark?

The editor was submitted a story that should appeal to the editor's intended audience. The submitter made statements that the editor may or may not disagree with. The editor approved the story as it was, as opposed to censoring it in any way.

It's my humble opinion that the editor did right by the submitter, and right by the audience.


Re:Little Excessive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423691)

Please, let me take this opportunity to request that you should go fuck yourself with a baseball bat, preferably an aluminum one, and fresh from the freezer.

Bye now!

Re:Little Excessive (-1)

Serial Troller (556155) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423717)

OK, I tried that, and it felt good. Thanks for the suggestion! I'm bleeding quite profusely from my buttocks and look much like our beloved Mr. Goatse, but damn! Did I ever have a good orgasm! Do you have any other suggestions to enhance my sexual enjoyment of frozen metal sporting goods? I look forward to finding out what clever uses your colorful imagination can dream up!

Re:Little Excessive (-1)

Serial Troller (556155) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423708)

Slashdot isn't a professional site. It's a bunch of pimply hax0rs that decided to throw together a website about their hobbyist OS and how "leet" it is to use it. Their only real "journalist" is a man named Jon Katz, whose stories get virtually no comments. The rest of the turds that run this site are... well, turds.

There's Rob "Commander Taco" Malda, a blatant outspoken homosexual who engages in something known as "Taco" snotting with his friends, Jeff "Homos" Bates and Cowboy "Kneel" Pater. These fine specimens of all that's wrong with the world also get off on moderating down or outright deleting comments expressing opposing views, permanently marking offending users ("bitch" slapping them; I myself am a victim of this), and playing whore to the corporate marketeers that are quickly overwhelming this site -- for example, bigger, uglier banner ads that interrupt the website, "web bug" images from doubleclick including many spying cookies, and selling our email addresses to spammers.

You want professional journalism, try or

Re:Little Excessive (-1)

YourMissionForToday (556292) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423804)

You know what you're doing! Funny little dried up bastard!

Re:Little Excessive (2)

Seth Finkelstein (90154) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423719)

Well, I see your point.

But would it be OK to call them "those who, for apparent compensation of fiscal cash contributions, perform in return a service, said service being analogized to that of a sexual nature, due to the presumed pleasure obtained by the servicee, and also in part due to the negative, dominance, connotation of the sale of the service"?

I once was chastized using a phrase involving pimping for censorware. The objection was that this terminology was unfair to pimps :-).

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Re:Little Excessive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423767)

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Re:Little Excessive (2, Insightful)

xenoweeno (246136) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423727)

The editors didn't call him a corporate whore. The person who submitted the story, L. J. Beauregard, did. Note the quotation marks.

Re:Little Excessive (1)

ender81b (520454) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423742)

But the editors are the ones who posted that on the front page. Ergo..

Re:Little Excessive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423760)

Ergo, you should only go fuck yourself with a very large object. Perhaps a nice splintery telephone pole would suffice to fill your gaping anal orifice?


Re:Little Excessive (1)

bleh-of-the-huns (17740) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423788)

You do realise, that anyone of those people you hate so much, could print out these threads where people like to voice their oppinions and aim vulgarity at the people whos mind's we need to sway, and submit them during their hearings, to completely discredit us as raving lunatics in said hearings.. use your brain.. Vent all you want, but chose your words carefully, cos in then end they could just as easily come back and bite us all in the ass.

Re:Little Excessive (1)

deverox (177930) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423867)

In regards to it doesn't make you look very professional or worthy of respect when you result to cheap tactics like this.
If you checked the definition of whore you see that it is valid to represent a whore as:
A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain. which is obviously what Sen. Hollings is out for with his bill.

Ignorance is something stupid people use often

Don't hate me... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423676)

Yeah, don't hate me just because you're stupid.

Hate me because I am always right and YOU are always wrong.

Stand by for shaft aft. (1)

eyegor (148503) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423677)

It's becoming very fashionable to bash Senator Hollings "brain"-child. It's was so outragous a proposal that anything less(no matter how badly it bodes for us) would seem "reasonable" by comparison.

I wouldn't fear the current legislation, I'd watch out for the seemingly more moderate bills that are sure to follow. If our beloved under-secretary of commerce (or whatever) thinks the DMCA is well-balanced, then we're sure to see more of the same in coming days.

Be on your toes and don't let down your guard.

Remember: when they want you to "comprimise" it really means they want you to give up half of what you have. All they need is a few cycles of that, and pretty soon, you have nothing.

The anti-gun crowd has been using that tact for quite a while and painting those who refuse to play the game as unreasonable. Expect the same treatment.

They'll get my Linux Distro when they pry it from my cold, dead disk drive!

diaper_tales! (-1)

diaper_tales (575224) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423697)

Tammy woke me up and was changing my diaper before I was fully aware of my surroundings. "Wake up sleepy head." I yawned and Tammy carried me to the kitchen and put me in my highchair. Tammy fed me some oatmeal and orange juice in my baby bottle. Mom said good morning to me and gave me a hug. Dad was home from work today. He had some extra vacation time and so he took off so He could work on a few things around the house.

After I was done eating I got my backpack and walked down the street to the bus stop. When I got their I saw Laura standing their. "Hi Laura. How are you? Where is Emily?" "I'm good. I don't know where she is." "Oh here she comes." "Hi Emily." I shouted. "Hi Laura, Hi Tiffany." We talked for a while and the bus came and we got on and took our seats.

"Hey you know what Tiffany?" "What Laura?" "Halloween is this Friday. What are you going to dress up as?" I thought for a second. "Oh, I know, I will dress up as a baby. I mean I will wear my diaper and plastic pants with nothing over it, I will wear my baby clothes, and have my bib on and my pacifier around my neck. I will even put my hair up in pig tails." "Hey that sounds so cute. Maybe all three of us can be babies for Halloween." "Yeah that'd be so cool!"

When we got to school we went to our class and sat down. Our teacher took attendance and then began teaching. We went to recess and then back to class. Before lunch our teacher talked to us about something special we were going to do this week. "As you all know, Friday is Halloween. I thought it would be nice if we had a Halloween party on Friday afternoon after recess. A lot of the other classes are going to have parties too. We will dress up in our Halloween costumes the whole day and I will even read a ghost story to the class after lunch before recess, and before the Halloween party. So how does this sound to you all?" The whole class was excited and we all agreed that'd be really fun!"

Soon it was lunch. Laura, and Emily and I all three had wet diapers and so we went to the nurse's office before going to lunch. When we got there Mrs. Peters was back. "Hi Mrs. Peters, we missed you a lot. I am glad you are better." "Well thank you Tiffany. I missed you all. What is this? There is a third person to be changed?" "Um yeah, this is my Friend Laura. She was sick for a few days and her mom let her be in diapers because it was easier for her to go in her diapers than to get up and go to the potty when she wasn't feeling well. Now she likes them and her mom said she could be in diapers along with Emily and I." "Well welcome aboard Laura!" "Thanks Mrs. Peters." So why don't you three come back here and I will change you. As usual we lined up, Laura, then Emily, then me. I don't know why I was always last. Probably because I was in diapers the longest, and Emily second longest, and Laura was new at it. Sometimes we'd line up depending on who had poopy diapers and who just had wet diapers. But anyway we got changed and went to lunch.

When we got to the cafeteria there was no line. So we went right through and got our food and found an empty table in the corner. After we were eating a while some kid threw a French fry at Laura. "Hey stop that!" "No you big baby, come over here and make me." "Just ignore him Laura, he's a jerk!" Just then a french-fry hit me in the back of the head. "Ok, I've had it. You people always make fun of me and my friends just because we are different. Well no body is perfect. Everyone has differences. So stop being such a jerk!" The boy got up and pushed me down and I fell on the floor. "Oh hell no you don't!" Emily yelled as she got up and threw her roll at the boy and then came up and hit him. "ALRGIGHT! That will be enough of that. Go to the office, and NOW!"

I was crying and Emily was really mad. They sent Laura down there too and the boy that started the fight. When we were in the principals office I kept crying. "So what happened here?" Laura spoke up. "We were sitting at our table and he threw a french-fry at me. I told him to stop. Then he threw one at Tiffany. Then tiffany got upset and yelled at him and his friends. Then the boy pushed her. She fell down and started crying and then Emily got up and threw a roll at him and punched him in the face." "Ok thank you Laura. You and Tiffany may go outside and wait for Emily. I need to have a talk with her." "Yes sir." We both left. I was still sobbing.

We sat in the secretary's office and Laura held me as I was sobbing and laying my head on her shoulder. She comforted me and I started to feel better. "That boy was mean. I hope Emily doesn't get in trouble for hitting him, because he started it first." "Yeah I know."

A few minutes later Emily came out of the office. She had tears coming down her face. "Come here Emily." I said as I walked up to her and gave her a hug and held her. Laura came to the side and put her arms around both of us. "Everything will be ok. Don't cry Emily." "So what happened?" "He told me that I have to stay after school today and write an apology to that boy." "No way! He started it." I said. Emily was still crying. "Ok look, let's just go back to class. It will be ok Emily. If your mommy asks what happened, we will tell her. Ok?" I hugged Emily and we both walked to class. By this time lunch was over.

At afternoon recess Emily was still mad. "Hey Emily, you know what?" "What Tiffany?" "You need to forgive him for getting you into trouble. Because that's what I learned in Sunday school. Jesus wants us to forgive our enemies and to do good to those that hurt us. I have forgiven him for being mean to me, and now you should let it go to. It will make you feel better, I promise." "Yeah, maybe you're right, but I'm still mad though." "I know, it's not easy, but you can do it." I gave her a hug. When we were on our way back to class Emily came over to him and said that she forgave him. "I didn't apologize you dork, go away." He said. "Well either way, I am not gonna get upset over someone like you. But just leave me and my friends alone. We don't bother you, so don't bother us ok?" "Yeah I guess so. Ok fine." "Thank you." "Yeah whatever."

"Well that didn't' really go as well as I hoped but at least I forgave him and it's not my problem anymore." "Yep, see, I told you." "Thanks Tiffany, for everything." "Aww, you are welcome." We finished our class work and went home. Emily stayed and went to the office. As Laura and I boarded the bus we both realized that our diapers were pretty soaked but it was to late to go for a change or we'd miss the bus.

So we sat down and as the bus started going, so did we! We both wet our diapers more and they felt so squishy. We kept checking our bottom's to see if it leaked. Laura was a little bit wet on her tushie. I told her I'd walk behind her when we got off the bus so no one could see. Finally we got off.

We walked to my house and Laura wet again and this time her diaper leaked and she got soaked. I did the same. Now we both stood there on the side of the road with soaked diapers and wet pants. We both said by and hurried home before anyone noticed us.

I came in the door and mom was on the couch. "My goodness, what happened to you?" "I peed my diaper so much that it leaked." "Well I see that. Why didn't you go to the nurses office and get changed?" "We had just got on the bus and it was to late to go back. Laura leaked too." "Oh my. Well come on then let's go get you changed into a dry dipee." "Otay mommy." "So how was your day?" "it was ok accept for lunch time. Some kid started a fight with us and Emily punched him in the mouth and had to stay after school. He deserved it too because he threw food at Laura and I. He pushed me and I fell on the floor too mommy." "Oh my goodness, what a terrible day, you poor baby. Come here let mommy cuddle with you and make it all better ok?" "Otay mommy, me like that.

I cuddled in her arms and she held me and rocked me to sleep and put me in my crib for a nice nap. Tammy came in and woke me before dinner. "Hey I heard about your day. I'm sorry you got picked on. How's Emily?" "I guess she's ok. She was mad at him and hit him. But I told her to forgive him like Jesus taught us to in the Bible." "Well good. I am glad. She needs a friend like you. I am glad you didn't hit him when he pushed you. That really made me proud, and also God too." "Aww thanks Tam Tam. I love you." "OH baby, I love you too." She gave me a kiss and a hug and then took me out to the living room and sat on the couch with me and waited for dinner to be ready.

Mom called us a few minutes later. Tammy put me in my highchair and we ate. It was so yummy! After a while I began to squirm around in my highchair. "I bet I know what you're doing." Tammy said while feeding me my peaches. I blushed and looked down at the tray. "Oh honey, are you gonna make poo in your diaper at the dinner table?" "Yes mommy." I leaned back and pushed on my tray with my hands and made faces as I pushed and finally loaded my diaper. "You're gonna have to sit in that messy diaper until after dinner because I'm not changing that or I'll lose my appetite." Tammy said. "Oh yucky, but ok I don't really mind. Sometimes me like to sit in it for a lil bit but not too long though ok?" "We'll be done soon honey." Mom said.

We had desert and then Tammy got me out of the highchair and took me to my room and took off the yucky diaper and wiped me and then carried me into the bathroom and sat me on the floor while she drew my bath water. Once it was just right I hopped in the tub. "Now there will be no splashing me this time you hear me?" I grinned at her. She gave me my bath and then dried me off and diapered me. She put me in my jammies and then went to finish some of her homework.

I called Emily to see how she was doing. Her mom answered and I explained everything that happened. Her mom was sort of upset with Emily but I told her that Emily defended me because that boy was pushing me and I fell on the floor." "Well I can understand that. I am not really mad, I just don't like to see Emily get into trouble." "I know." "Well anyway here is Emily, you can talk to her. She is doing ok now, but she was upset that she had to stay after school today." Her mom thanked me for talking to her and then handed the phone to Emily.

Emily and I talked and then mom told me I needed to get ready for bed. Tammy stopped working on her work for a while and got my teeth brushed and made sure I was dry and ready for bed. I told her that I needed a hug. She held me and rocked me a while and hummed softly to me and then put me in my crib. I fell right to sleep.

The next day went by very slowly because we were anticipating Halloween and the party at school and also the party that I was going to after school. Emily and Laura were excited too. After school that day we all met at my house and with my mom's help we got our costumes ready for school and for the party tomorrow. We ordered pizza and watched a movie too. When it got dark my mom piled us all in the car and took Laura and Emily to their houses. They each had their costume in a paper bag so they could get ready the next morning.

After dropping them off, we got home. Tammy gave me a bath and got me ready for bed. "You're going to have to get up a little earlier tomorrow so we can get you in your costume." I smiled and I could hardly wait. After Tammy tucked me in I couldn't fall asleep. She read me 2 stories and hummed to me. "Well I see you won't go to sleep so why don't you just come over to my room and lay in bed with me and watch TV for a little while. Then we can just fall asleep and I'll wake you up when I get up. That way you can get ready for your big day ok?"

So off we went to Tammy's room. I watched TV and fell asleep by 10 o'clock. The next morning I woke up and Tammy changed my diaper and mom came in to the room and they both got my costume on me. Then I had breakfast. Tammy left for school and I left early too. I went to Laura's house and she was ready early so we both went to Emily's house. We waited for her for a couple minutes while her mom was getting her costume on. "You girls will be the cutest in the whole school today." We smiled and thanked her.

Five minutes later we left and went to the bus stop. When the bus pulled up and we boarded, the kids laughed at us. "Wow Is this the pre-school stop or the elementary?" the bus driver said jokingly. We smiled. We took our seats. A lot of kids had costumes. Some were princesses, some were animals and different cartoon characters and so on. A lot of the girls commented on how cute we looked when we dressed as babies.

We got off the buss and as we were walking to our class many teachers and students gave us compliments on our outfits. Some kids made fun of us but it was Halloween so we got away with this. "Don't you wish we could dress like this all the time Tiffany?" "Yeah Laura, this is great!" Emily smiled and agreed with us. As class started the teacher was looking at all of us in our various costumes. "Wow you three girls really look cute!" our teacher said to us.

We had classes as normal, then recess and more classes then lunch time. Of course as usual we went to get our diapers changed. Laura did number two in her diaper as I was on the changing table and Emily was already changed and standing there. "Um Laura? You're going poo aren't you?" She blushed. Mrs. Peters overheard her and said, "Oh my goodness, I better get some more wipies for those poopoo dipees." We all giggled. Finally, we were all changed and went to lunch and ate.

After lunch our teacher read us some ghost stories and stuff. It was pretty neat. We even had the lights turned off and had some pumpkins lighting up the room. Later we went to recess and when we came back in the room was rearranged and we had all our desks put into a long table with a table cloth and candles and decorations. The teacher and some other people from the office got all the rooms ready for their different Halloween parties.

We all sat down and they gave us some candy and some cupcakes and we even had some prizes for different games we played. We had lots of punch and I wet my diaper several times as did Emily and Laura. The bell rang and we left and went to our bus. Again we forgot to go get changed and it was to late. This time we all three leaked even while on the bus. And since we were just in diapers and rubber pants you could see the yellow area where our pee was in the bottom of the diaper. As we got off the bus a lot of kids were like "Eww, your diapers are soaked and leaking!" We even had wet areas on our seat. We giggled and tinkled our diapers some more. By the time we got home, pee was running down our legs. We stopped at my house and my mom saw us. "OH my gosh! You girls are soaking dripping wet in your diapers! Come in here and Ill change you." She had us all three lay down at the entrance because it was tile and she didn't want us to leak on the carpet. It was cold laying on the tile. Tammy came over to us and took off our diapers and mom came back out with more and they diapered us again. "Wow you girls need to make sure you stop at the nurse's office before you come home when your diapers are already wet." "Yeah we will mom." "Thanks for changing us." Laura said. "Yeah thanks." Emily said. Emily and Laura left and I took a nap because I was going to go to a party after dinner. I fell right to sleep.

Tammy came in and got me up from my nap. We had dinner and Tammy put me in double diapers and my pink plastic pants. This way if I wet or messied in my diaper it wouldn't be as noticeable. I even carried a diaper bag with me in addition to my other baby stuff. Emily was going the same way. Laura was also in diapers but she didn't have a diaper bag. We said we'd share ours with her.

Mom dropped us off at the party. All the parents and kids thought we were so cute. We even one prizes for our costumes being original. We had a lot of fun hanging out and playing games. Towards the end of the party we all had our diapers pretty soaked. We went into a room off to the side and were playing spin the bottle. We made up a rule that if the bottle pointed to Laura, Emily or me, that that person would have to change our diaper, and then give us a kiss. It was so funny because this one boy that gave us a hard time the other day had to change Emily's soaking wet diaper. We all laughed at him and he was embarrassed. "I bet he'll never mess with us again." I whispered in Laura's ear. She nodded.

Finally we all went home. Emily's mom came to pick us all up and we went to get some ice cream and then went home. I had lots of candy and prizes from today. Tammy tucked me in for bed. I was so tired I didn't even want a bath. Since I was in double diapers I talked Tammy into letting me stay in my soaking wet diapers over night so I could enjoy them more.

She finally got me to go to sleep which was amazing because of all the sugar in my system. I woke back up in the middle of the night and had to go poo really bad. I held it a while and then totally messy din my diapers. I was tinkling a lot too from all the soda and punch I had the day before. My inner diaper was totally soaked through and my second diaper was beginning to swell up to. I felt the huge thick bulge of the diapers between my legs. Not to mention having my whole bottom loaded with mushy poo and soaked with my warm pee trapped in those thick diapers. For the first time that night I felt some sensations in my diapers that I never had felt before. My body was shaking. I moved my legs apart and then together. I finally went back to sleep.

By the time I woke up Saturday morning I couldn't even close my legs because the diapers were swelled up. I had poo all up my back and it came out of the diaper and onto my jammies. I felt all itchy and yucky. I smelted so terrible too. "Mommy! Help me! I got really gross diapers!"

Shortly after that mom came in. "Oh my, does it smell in here! YUCK! Honey you really loaded your diaper didn't you?" I was blushing. "What are you still doing in your diapers from last night?" "I wanted to keep both of them on." "They were already wet though before you went to bed." "I know but I liked it mommy and I wanted them to get thick and soaked over night."

She picked me up and saw that I had poop all over my back and my shirt and in the crib. "Oh my! Tammy!!!! Tammy!!! Come in here I need help. Your sister has a horrible mess in her diapers and in her crib!" Tammy came in the room and smelled the smell like mom did. "Eww! Tiffy, you are yucky. "You get the bedding off of her crib and I'm gonna take her outside and take off the diaper and take the hose all over her and then I will come in and you can bathe her while I treat these sheets to get the stains out." "Ok mom." Tammy was half asleep still but she went ahead and did as mom asked her to.

Mom held me away from her as she carried me to the back door. We went out behind the porch. She took the hose out. "Ok Tiffany, I want you to turn around as I soak you down and get you cleaned up. She turned the hose on and wet my shirt and put the hose down the front of my diaper. "mommy this is cold!" "I know honey, I'm sorry, but you are so messy."

Then mom sat the hose down and pulled off my shirt. Then she slid off my jammies and my rubber pants. She took the hose and squirted them off. "Ok honey now I want you to squat down over here in the flower bed." She then unpinned my loaded diapers and they fell to the ground. She sprayed my hiney with the hose. It felt weird being naked in the backyard getting sprayed with the hose. "Ok now lay down on your tummy on the grass honey." I laid down she took the hose all over from my back down to my legs making sure she washed away all the yucky poo. "Ok now turn over on your back and spread your legs. This is gonna feel weird but it'll get you clean." "Ok mommy." I rolled over and she took the hose and sprayed from my chest down to my tummy and then between my legs. I giggled because it tickled me a lot and I started to squirm around. "You're ticklish there aren't you honey?" mom said teasingly.

She had me stand up and she gave me a good soaking from head to toe. Tammy came out with a towel and dried me and wrapped me up and carried me inside to get re-diapered. Tammy then put new sheets on the crib while mom prepared to wash the messy ones. Tammy fed me breakfast and we watched cartoons together. "Honey, I think that was the yuckiest diaper you've ever had." I blushed. "Yeah it was. I sowwy." "It's ok. Not your fault. I mean when you gotta go, you gotta go. Right?" "Yeppers."

Tammy put me down for a nap. I slept great. She came in and changed my diaper. "Did you sleep well baby?" "Yes I did." "Very good. Well it's din din time." "Otay Tam Tam." We Sat down at the table and I was in my highchair. We had a yummy dinner and desert was yummy too.

After dinner I went to Emily's house. I talked to her about my day and she talked to me about hers also. I went home later and Tammy got me ready for bed. She tucked me in and we talked for a little bit. "Well you'd better get some sleep. We have church tomorrow." "Ok. Goodie. "Ok sweetie, now go to sleep." She gave me a kiss and left the room.

Corporate whore? (2, Informative)

autopr0n (534291) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423722)

Oh, I see, anyone who doesn't agree with you is a whore. That's a great way to win over people's minds. yup.

Re:Corporate whore? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423752)

hey shitforbrains, that comment was that of the POSTER.

it was NOT made by the fucktard editors of /.

do you GET the DIFFERENCE, or are such subtleties lost on you?

Re:Corporate whore? (1)

mabinogi (74033) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423870)

how do you know his comment wasn't directed at the poster?

Re:Corporate whore? (-1, Offtopic)

hettb (569863) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423896)

You are hereby urged to commit suicide.

Re:Corporate whore? (2)

NoMoreNicksLeft (516230) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423792)

The slashdot editors aren't rich. How could they ever hope to win over this guy?

Re:Corporate whore? (1)

deverox (177930) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423872)

Read the definition of a whore:
A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain.
Thus the definition is valid and you are an idiot. Enough said.

Re:Corporate whore? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423903)

I have to urge you to commit suicide.

Thank you.

Ermm.. anyone else notice this part of the story.. (1)

bleh-of-the-huns (17740) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423761)

Club Fed for life: A vote on life imprisonment for malicious hackers has been postponed. The House Judiciary committee was supposed to consider the Cyber Security Enhancement Act this week, but postponed a vote until next week because of a full schedule. A subcommittee has already approved the bill, after rewriting it to cover more types of computer intrusions.
Err.. This seems a little bit on the harsh side.. what so they plan on doing with said criminals... put em in with the murderers and rapists in a maximum security prison.. hell while there at it.. why not go for the death penalty... This really does suck.. and people wonder why I.. as an American, and sometimes proud to be one, am applying for my citizenship in a European country. Uggg

Re:Ermm.. anyone else notice this part of the stor (3, Insightful)

Lemmy Caution (8378) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423880)

Just wait till the apply it to portscans. But hey, there's a war against terror! You can be an Enron exec and squander the life savings of thousands of employees away, but I doubt that there will be more than 10 years of jail time done between the lot of them. However, a 19 year old script-kiddie gets a little full of beans and brings down a couple Exchange servers, and it's a lifetime of forced sodomy for him. Yet people still believe in the "justice" system - why the hell not, we get the best justice money can buy!

Such great timing. (2)

Peridriga (308995) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423786)

The comic strip User Friendly [] has a great strip today [] about the DMCA..

Spoiler: It is 'violate the DMCA' sung to the theme song of YMCA...(Muh haw-hahaha) :-P

Poop! (-1)

Serial Troller (556155) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423806)


CBDTPA is a strawman. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423864)

It has to be. Hollywood and RIAA flunkys end up
looking good to their masters, everyone else can
vote against it and claim to be watching out for

Is this just a bit of theater for our benefit?

I wanna be a big ol' corporate ho bag... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3423873)

But not in this country when all taxes originate @ their doorstep. I'm going to log an objection simply because I believe that the investment in said legislation will cost MUCH more than any benefits gained by supposed resultant increases in security. The government is simply too far behind the curve to craft a document that might possibly have a deterring effect, and are attempting to make up for being technically illiterate via creative writing. I'm really happy to see you guys flapping your arms around, but the vast majority who get their nuts cut off by these efforts are overwhelmingly law abiding, tax paying citizens. *RING* - oh wait, satan just called and said it's a groovy idea, but can we add FTP, rcp, scp and the entire UDP protocol to the list of illegal online activities, right after ping and any response which can be interpreted as ACK? So what the hell, I resind the above comment...

Nothing to get excited about (1)

inkswamp (233692) | more than 12 years ago | (#3423914)

This just strikes me as more of the predictable political stances we've come to expect over the last two decades or so. Let's see... a Republican president/administration voicing concern about a bill that is headed up by a Democrat.

I don't give any single politician points for standing on principle here or an iota of credibility. IMO, it's more of the standard attitude, that "it's coming from the other guys so we're suspicious of it" posturing that is so typical.

Just be thankful for now that a Democrat is the one behind this bill (gah... never thought I'd hear myself say that!) If this were a bill being pushed by a Republican, we'd be in deep shit right now.

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