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New OpenOffice.org-Based Office Suite

timothy posted more than 12 years ago | from the unfortunate-name dept.

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Voidhobo writes: "SOT, a Linux-distributor from the home-country of Linux, is offering SOT Office, a free productivity suite partly based on OpenOffice, for Linux and Windows. According to SOT, it is the only office application you will ever need, as it is fully compatible with MS Office and StarOffice." OpenOffice is great, so I hope their claims have merit.

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SOT off. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427719)

You heard me.

Re:SOT off. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427935)

What kind of a world is it at all? Men on the moon and men spinning around the earth
and there's not no attention paid to earthly law and order no more.

How about (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427721)

A new OpenOrifice [goatse.cx] based office suite ?

question (1, Funny)

Dr Kool, PhD (173800) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427722)

Does Open Office have that talking paperclip dude?? If not then it's just a cheap immitation.

Re:question (1, Offtopic)

gatesh8r (182908) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427742)

Nah I think they switched to a talking stapler because of possible patent infringements

What about OS_X (0)

mAIsE (548) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427818)

Where is the port to the coolest unix variant on the market ?

And for *really* dumb users... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427745)

you also need a cute animated ant on the paperclip dude shoulder to help you with the paperclip dude.

Re:question (2, Funny)

kraf (450958) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427760)

I don't get it why people are so harsh on the paperclip.
You can change it to a cute little doggie !
The doggie has helped me lot in my productivity and in making my desktop frendlier.

Re:question (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427783)

And what do you use for a desktop? A fire hydrant?

Re:question (5, Funny)

cscx (541332) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427897)

Y'know, I always thought that MS Agent (the API that brings you all the talking characters) could use a BOFH character.

"Save there again and that's the last time you open THAT document."

"I've taken the liberty of password protecting all your Word documents with a random alphanumeric password. If you can't hack in to your own documents than you shouldn't be using Office in the first place...."

Re:question (Binky) (1)

OptimizedPrime (558992) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427770)

Actually, I think they're going to code in Binky the Cheerful Winking papeclip from Ubersoft: http://www.ubersoft.net/features/askbinky/index.ht ml (Aye Aye skipper... I notice you're opening a word document, would you like me to help you forward all your spam to bill G?

Who needs Office? (5, Informative)

Lemmy Caution (8378) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427848)

You can get Vigor [red-bean.com] , a vi clone with a talking (and evil) paper-clip assistant!

Re:question (0)

jojor (545317) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427892)

Including the paperclip in the office suite (which looks sweet) would be incorporating the "Instant Anger Technology (tm)"

A reaction of a satisfied user can be seen here [softlab.ntua.gr] .

This Post Dedicated To Klerck (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427723)

May his days of widening be long and plenty!

P.S. Fuck CmdrTaco, Fuck Natalie Portman

Re:This Post Dedicated To Klerck (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427747)

You got problems kid.

Re:This Post Dedicated To Klerck (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427819)

Fuck Natalie Portman

I'd like to. How do I get started?

Re:This Post Dedicated To Klerck (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427856)

Thank you for understanding, you are a bright one.

Fuck CmdrTaco did not imply to physically have sex with him but rather email him hateful messages and post crapfloods on his website.

To fuck Natalie Portman (I did imply to have sex with her) you must have Adobe Photoshop, an image of Natalie Portman's face, and a realdoll [realdoll.com] . Simply paste Natalie's face onto the realdoll and fuck away. It's that simple. For added effect pop in some of her old movies and replay on a continuous loop some of her voice quotes, such as a cry of pain, or an orgasm in a love making scene.

This concludes the Guide to Sex with Natalie Portman

fuck capitalism (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427725)

fuck capitalism

Re:fuck capitalism (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427735)

i agree! the world would be a better place if we all spoke german and were nazis

Re:fuck capitalism (0)

anonymous cowfart (576665) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427776)

Alternatively, we could all speak Russian and be communists. That would be fine as well

Re:fuck capitalism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427784)

totally! du hast, motherfucka

Re:fuck capitalism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427786)

Finally, a voice of reason in this insane world.

Re:fuck capitalism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427871)

Huh? If anything, big corporations and the Nazis had a very cozy relationship.

Re:fuck capitalism (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427951)

Alle hageln Michael Sims, das fuhrer!

Sieg Hail! Sieg Hail! Sieg Hail!

who needs this when open office has debs now. (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427732)

its very exciting.

you can get them here [linux-debian.de] .

Why the hell is parent offtopic? (2, Funny)

popeyethesailor (325796) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427959)

The link leads to a legit website, and this article is about OpenOffice.
Please read the posts before you moderate.

SOT Office. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427734)

What's better?

(A) an OpenOffice based Office project

or

(B) Sex with a mare

Re:SOT Office. (-1)

1234567890zxcvbnm (548451) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427754)

What isn't better than sex with a mare? (Besides sex with a goat of course.)

Re:SOT Office. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427815)

Mmm... sex with a stallion wouldn't be so fun either (ouch!).

MARE!!!!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427911)

Sex with anything is better than ummm.... sex with open office.

Too much competition (2, Insightful)

CmdrTaco (editor) (564483) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427737)

One thing I've noticed within the past year or so is the huge increase in the number of competitors for office suites in the open source/Linux community. While competition may spur innovation in most cases, I don't believe it to be true when taken to this degree for open source software.

The main reason behind this belief is simply the fact that the reason most people don't adopt secondary office suites is because of the different standards. People use MS Office because they know sending a co-worker a PowerPoint presentation or an Excel spreadsheet will not cause any compatibility issues, because it is a fair assumption that this person also has MS Office. What the Linux community really needs is a single office suite standard, eliminating the compatibility issues. Then we can work on competition.

Re:Too much competition (2)

flewp (458359) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427753)

When you say single office suite standard, do you mean a single office package, like SOT Office, StarOffice, etc? Or do you mean so that the file types are all standardized so that there could be a lot of different office suites, but they all followed a standard, so all the files were compatible with each office suite? I think either way, it's a good idea, but it's hard to say which would help more. If one office suite could capture the majority of the non-MS-Office market that was able to read/write a lot of formats, I think that would be ideal.

Too much wordiness repeating uneeded words (2)

JamesOfTheDesert (188356) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427761)

Before basic editing: The main reason behind this belief is simply the fact that the reason most people don't adopt secondary office suites is because of the different standards.

After: Most people don't adopt secondary office suites because of the different standards.

Re:Too much wordiness repeating uneeded words (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427785)

Oh, I want my office suite to do that too!

Re:Too much wordiness repeating uneeded words (3, Funny)

Error27 (100234) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427866)

You are obsolutely correct of course, but I say if he spends all his time impersonating CmdrTaco then he's already far too lame to worry about little things like bad prose.

Re:Too much wordiness repeating uneeded words (1)

linzeal (197905) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427957)

dude, he is even immitating the "bad prose" of the real cmdrtaco. i give him 5 stars.

Re:Too much competition (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427765)

One thing I've noticed within the past year or so is the huge increase in the number of competitors for office suites in the open source/Linux community. While competition may spur innovation in most cases, I don't believe it to be true when taken to this degree for open source software.

No, I'd say it's still a good thing. Economic Darwinism will wind up killing off all but the best values. This was the same situation we had in the DOS world around 1985. Give it time. I expect Linux will eventually become credible on the desktop, just not as quickly as people might like. Be patient, it doesn't have to happen tomorrow. It will happen when the platform is ready.

Re:Too much competition (2)

Tazzy531 (456079) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427777)

I agree to an extent. However, there is one important aspect that many people do not realize is that compatibility is only part of the issue. The key selling point of an OSS office suite is the relatively low cost of ownership. But to calculate this total cost of ownership, you need to factor in a number of other variables. The most important, as you mentioned, is compatibility. If a person is going to spend 20 hours writing a report, does he have to spend another 5 hours to get it to a readable format for his boss? (Getting your boss to switch to your software is out of the question in many environments) Now the reason why MS Office is so popular is that...it is worth the extra $200 that you have to spend to save a couple hours here and a couple hours there per project.

I think the most important thing that OSS Office suites need to focus on is compatibility with the majority of the office suite out there (in this case MS Office). This doesn't mean that you need to run the file through another program to convert it or have to do something different so that it is compatible with MS Office...it should just be. This will wrestle some users away from the grips of MS

Secondly, [I think this is something that everyone overlooks], consumers don't like change. Even a change in a look and feel is a drastic difference. One thing that I still haven't found in the Linux Office Suites is the whole MS Word/Office look and feel. The pulldown menus and the icons just don't look and feel right. Once you get people to use your software and not realize that they are not using MS Word, you've succeeded in achieving what you need to do.

Once you get critical mass, you can then define your own look and feel. Until then...you need to imitate...

Re:Too much competition (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427839)

It's impossible. I have yet to see ONE office suite that didn't produce "erroneous" Word-documents for the simplest of examples. The freeware 602 PRO PC SUITE is probably the best among them, but it too fails to capture all the quirks. However, when it comes to reproducing all the bugs MS has introduced in their formats, that is next to impossible to accomplish without either specs or sourcecode.

To say that MS is backwards compatible is hypocritical to say the least. I know you didn't say it, but the grand-parent post implied it.

If the DOJ-case is to have any merit at all, MS should be forced to open up all their specs on their formats. Down to the nitty gritty details + all the flaws that are necessary to reproduce so-called "bug-free" Word documents (there really ain't no such thang baby!). That would allow REAL competition.

Word would be great if it weren't for all those quirks and bugs though. I've seen so-called Word-experts struggle for hours to do simple things correctly in Word.

Re:Too much competition (1)

yason (249474) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427903)

I think the most important thing that OSS Office suites need to focus on is compatibility with the majority of the office suite out there (in this case MS Office).

Yeah, and that in turn kills the innovation: you'll be busy deciphering the latest .doc/.xls formats and features which prevents you from doing things differently than in M$O, creating new features and eventually making your application better than M$Office. And your application will always remain a mere cheap copy of the original. Microsoft has really worked the situation out for themselves here -- I don't think OSS office suites will get out of the imitation phase you mentioned anytime soon and M$ is going to keep it that way as long as possible :-P

Re:Too much competition (2, Interesting)

eugene ts wong (231154) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427838)

What the Linux community really needs is a single office suite standard, eliminating the compatibility issues.
I agree. I think that the standards that they need to agree on are file formats, and the desire to reuse as much code as possible.

Other than that, I'd encourage them to make as many skins and interfaces as possible. I believe that it's good to have variation so that people can customize according to their needs. For example, I have a 386 with 8MB of RAM and an approx. 540MB harddrive. I'd love to install a Linux desktop on it, but it's not going to be easy! :^) If there were a trimmed down version to meet my needs, then that would be great. A featureful, non-trimmed down version would really help those with lots of hardware.

Other variations may include plugins, so that documents can be browsed on the web, and we can finally get rid of pdf files.

Any thoughts and comments?

Re:Too much competition (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427900)

"... we can finally get rid of pdf files".
Honestly, I don't understand: you say that standards are a good thing, yet you don't like pdf files. I have to ask you, did even once a PDF file go wrong on your computer while display right on a coleague? To me, pdf (and ps, of course) are the best document formats out there. Simple, easily convertible to text (if needed), with no problems, and based on STANDARDS.

PS: Does MS Office work on your computer [the 386]? Just curious.

Re:Too much competition (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427849)

In my opinion Microsoft Office is one of the best software packages ever produced. The Excel application is superb for modelling systems that does not require advanced math like that in Matlab or SPSS. They're in for some tough technical/engineering competition with Microsoft here.

Now to another question that I think would be of importance to a large chunk of the Slashdot readers: What will the economic effects for the software industry be if software such as Office (which is a huge driver for software revenue and profits) is given away for free? Note that I'm talking about the broad ideological wishing here that all software should be free and open, not just MS Office.

Since a lot of you are pursuing a career in software or systems I find the strive towards free software a bit strange. How many engineers (and for that sake.. people like managers and support staff) are involved in the MS Office product? Tens of thousands make their living of that product. That would NOT be possible if Microsoft did not pull in the cash to fund the product and made a profit (which is a requirement for entering into a business segment).

While I must say that it is very nice to have free software such as operating systems, compilers etc available instead of having to buy (or copy..) expensive software, I think that this is doing more damage than good to the people involved in software development. Think about it: If there was no free Internet server, no free database engine and so on, COMPANIES (not CompSci-students) would buy those product to realise products and systems. Is it really that wrong to ask a software development company to pay money for all the bleeding edge tools that make their work so much easier? After all, that money goes back into the software industry and generates some important figures for those working in the industry. More revenues and profit for software companies leads to:
More jobs for engineers
More venture capital investments
More new companies being started to share (and make smaller) that profit (microeconomic fact actually, despite the position of Microsoft)

I used to think that it was great to be able to set up an entire advanced Internet-system for free, just download and boot up OpenBSD, Apache, MySQL and so on and your're off to coding your CGIs and apps in C and C++ on that nice free compiler (which is not only free, but also best). My thoughts have changed: That WAS nice when you were either a student with no cash wishing to work with technology to learn (been there) OR you were in the process of starting a business in a field related and wanted free software to run everything (been there too). BUT when you think of multi-billion-dollar companies re-building their software budgets and moving to free software to cut costs, it's a whole other thing.

Anyway, don't you people here think that the money made from proprietary (open or closed) software sold for raw cash is what funds this industry? I mean, do you all want to work as sysadmins on Linux and databaseadmins on MySQL instead of software engineers & technical managers on projects that aim to sell the software you have created?

Re:Too much competition (0)

linux_avenger (573747) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427968)

Anyway, don't you people here think that the money made from proprietary (open or closed) software sold for raw cash is what funds this industry? I mean, do you all want to work as sysadmins on Linux and databaseadmins on MySQL instead of software engineers & technical managers on projects that aim to sell the software you have created?

This is, of course, not taking into account software companies which hire programmers to work on LGPL'd code, companies which (live or die by Linux, such as IBM) hiring programmers to fix key bugs in GPL'd code, and companies which desire to compete with a GPL'd product by making a professional alternative.

Every worker his own suite! (3, Interesting)

YeeHaW_Jelte (451855) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427910)

I disagree. We have two standards for storing office-like information: the current, MS-office doc, xls and ppt, and more importantly, the upcoming, most likely an XML-variant. As long as all these office-suites comply to both the current and the upcoming standard, the only reason not to want so much different suites is fragmentation of the sparse resource of open sources programmers, because to make a good open source office suite, you need a whole lot of voluntary programming hours.

Re:Too much competition (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427916)

People use MS Office because they know sending a co-worker a PowerPoint presentation or an Excel spreadsheet will not cause any compatibility issues, because it is a fair assumption that this person also has MS Office.
You haven't used MS Office very much, have you?

Bezier Curves, etc (2)

flewp (458359) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427738)

I haven't tried it yet, but it seems with it's gradient fills, bezier curves, and some of the other graphics features, that it could be good for companies/individuals looking for a little more power in their office suite. Especially when you factor in the price of competing products or products you would need to accomplish the same thing.
It would be interesting too, to see how other products compare against it. (There have got to be some features that SOT Office lacks that others include)
However, I for one, will probably never use this, though I will try it out.

Re:Bezier Curves, etc (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427778)

I tried those new Bezier curve function in OO. THey work great. I love open office in general, its good to see another rendition of it.

I am an ardent supporter of those things that are free, this gives people more choice, especially with the DMCA.

This makes me think of something I should convey here.

Bread gets moldy, turns to black.

Lots of things turn dark, moldy and brown with age.

Your kitchen floor was white at some point but you slovenly self had created a swampy quagmire of festering shit.

Black or darkness is an archetype for ignorance in literature, because in the very early days, darkness of the night was a preclusion of the world that was known.

White light is the presence of all the colors in the spectrum, black is the absence of all color.

Your tird-world ape nations have a lot to learn from the crackers. Us whiteys. Us honkies. Us stupid and intellectually inferior (being very facetious here) crackers.

We can cure you. We can. We can dilute your Arab stupidity, we can breed out your nigger sickle cells, we can wane your Asiatic elitism, we can eliminate your Pakistani desire to sell carpets and stink like body odor. We can probably not ever fix the lazy spics and mulattos of the south Americas, but maybe. We have to fuck your women. Let us come in droves and cure you of the animal genes that are mixed in there. Given that you apparently have a cerebral cortex, the animal nigger genes must be recessive.

We can help. Help me help you. Find your wife, and let me knock her up.

We can save your brown stained genes with our superior north european aryan genes. We can fix you. God gave us the power, and we can share it with you brown fuckers by screwing your apeish wives.

Trains, planes, cars, rockets, telescopes, tires, telephones, radios, television, electricity, atomic energy, computers, and fax machines. All miracles made possible by the minds and spirits of men with names like Ampere, Bell, Caselli, Edison, Ohm, Faraday, Einstein, Cohen, Teller, Shockley, Hertz, Marconi, Morse, Popov. Ford, Volta, Michelin, Dunlop, Watt, Diesel, Galileo, and other "dead white males."

All reports indicate that we have a booming economy right now, but few understand why this is so. I hate to disappoint my friends on the radical left, but it has nothing to do with Bonnie and Clyde Clinton or the Democratic Party, or with any other party for that matter. What I'm about to say is tantamount to blasphemy in this politically correct day and age; yet truth is truth. How long are we going to pretend that origins play no role in our world, the origins of the inventions, science, technology, and economics of the world in which we live?

Our present economic boom is due to the revolution in electronics and computer technology. But saying this is not enough, for these things didn't just spring into existence by themselves. They have traceable origins. And all of our "booms," throughout history, have the same origins as this one. It's no mystery. Just look at the list of names in your history books, and their national origins.

The great majority of "booms" past and present have been brought about by the genius and inventiveness of that most "despicable" of genders, the dreaded white male, or, to be exact, by specific, individual white males. This is not to discredit the many contributions coming from non-whites, but fact is fact. Our most important and consequential inventions have come almost exclusively from white males.

Curse me, or all white males, if you wish, that changes nothing. But if you call me a liar, you'll have to come up with the proof that I'm wrong. Remember, I didn't say there were no important contributions by non-whites; I said the overwhelming majority. Of course, I know about such things as the Chinese and gunpowder, but they didn't take it much beyond firecrackers and pyrotechnics. And I know about the pyramids and masonry of South America and the zero of the Arabs.

Would we have atomic physics and electricity if it hadn't been for the ancient Greek philosophers who, for example, had the idea that all matter consists of tiny atoms? Aristotle (5th century, B.C., 25th century pre P.C.) used electric charges to treat gout! Archimedes perceived the center of gravity of solids, cylinders, and spheres. From the basic discoveries of Greek civilization it went to the Romans and after the fall of Rome, it passed to later Europeans who expanded on this scientific knowledge. In modern times these ideas were developed by such Europeans as Volta, Ampere, Watts, Bell, Edison, and Einstein, who provided the basis for most of the technical wonders of today. All of them dreaded white males.

Maybe you got your enlightenment from one of the Ivy-League institutions of dis-education. Maybe they taught you that it's all the result of white racism and oppression. That every time a potential Einstein, Edison, or Ford popped up in the Third World, a White hit-squad would swoop down and eliminate him before he had a chance to prove himself. Or maybe their schools refused to teach him in the Ebonics of his day. Or maybe they didn't have proper daycare facilities. Or maybe our would-be innovator came from a "dysfunctional family."

But the facts tell us that many of the great men pursued their genius at great personal risk--like the astronomer Galileo, who proved that the earth revolves around the sun. He and other men of genius and courage refused to be suppressed even if it meant their lives. They would permit no race, gender, group or class to keep them from their pursuit of truth and excellence whatever the cost.

If you eliminate, suppress, or debase the while male, you kill the goose that laid the golden egg. If you ace him out with "affirmative" action, exile him from the family, teach him that he's a blight on mankind, then bon voyage to our society. We will devolve into a turd-world cesspool. Where has there ever before in history been a group of human beings who have brought about the likes of the Magna Carta, the US Constitution, and the countless life-saving and life- improving inventions that we now enjoy?

Now it is certainly true that China did lead the world in technology and commercial inventiveness about 1,000 years ago. They had great coal-mining operations, gunpowder, six-masted sailing ships, and intense commercial enterprise. But it all collapsed because the elites, the long-nailed Mandarins, centralized control--1,000 years before Mao--and crushed the expansion and inventions.

Does this mean we should sit back and let ourselves be governed by someone just because he's a white male? Of course, it doesn't. It means simply that we shouldn't suppress anyone, including white males. Let our God-given gifts run free in a free and just society, free from the oppression and tyranny of social engineers. If anyone has gifts beyond our own, be he a white male or other, be grateful. Maybe we have gifts that in some small way can contribute something of value as well. One way or another, we're all in the same boat. Few of us have truly outstanding gifts. And most of us have to humbly accept that there are others around who are more gifted than we are. In a democratic society it's not for Big Brother to decide who shall thrive and who shall struggle in the hive.

Wah. Wah. Cry wah. Fuck you commie. You leftish shit. Lets make the doors out of paper to let the burgulars in, give a big hug and try to kiss and make friends lalalalalal.

This thread is making me sick, and all the commie leftist biased shit going on makes me even more sick.

There are those few people here which have said some conservative sense to these leftists that would teach gay love to young boys for the sake of diversity.

No one holds a gun to your head to eat that fuckin' McDonalds. NO ONE. These third world saps suck up American culture because they are busy chopping clitorises off of women, suppressing ethnic minority groups though genocide or some other bull shit.

People are way to young and don't read much history. Ask Tibet how it likes China's takeover. Ask the Chinks how they like the Japs when they killed 100,000's during the occupation of Manchuria. Ask any of the down trodden eastern Europeans how it felt to have the long spear of the Soviet Ramrod up their asses during the cold war days? How bout a nice day in a GOULAG? How about making bomb shelters in Iraq near legit military targets to get "bad lefty communist like Christiana AMAPOUR to report civvie deaths even though Hussein is at fault?" How about starving Iraqi "children" aka terrorists in training starving to death because their leader is spending upwards ot 50B/year in WMD research. How about Canada and France selling No. Ko. reactor parts, great fuckin friends we have. How about getting the death penalty in Singapore for smoking a joint? How about giving the Middle East nations the oil fields back (after we built huge oil platforms for them, because the tent dwelling cretins were too fucking retarded to do it themselves). Oh, Mr. Bad USA, gave the panama canal back. How about a USA so weak right now fucking Chinks want to buy out Global Crossing (a big chunk of the FUCKING INTERNET WE INVENTED, PIONEERED) after the chinks were handed all sorts of shit by the CLINTOON administration, and Terry McAuliffe.

FUCK TIHS ANTI AMERICAN shit. all the foreigners who get here legally stay for a fucking damn good reason. And I welcome you, so long as you pay taxes - do what you fuckin want.

This is historically unfounded. We get over our vices and inconsistencies fast here. USA makes mistakes, but the Sudanese still have slavery, we don't. We got over slavery damn quick compared to the rest of the world. We came a long way on suffrage (the right to vote to all the bleeding heart commies who have yet to pay much into the system yet). We may not be perfect yet, but shit, its far from shit. very far.

I hate the commie shit socialists who want the least common denominator for everyone.

FUCK YOU. Id rather nuke your ass and suck up some nice radiation I paid for that share my home with you fucking lazy un-working vermin.

I'll never worry about losing the cure for cancer by nuking dumps like Iraq, because these defunct shithead countries will never make one.

There is so much trash going around on this thread, it makes me laugh. Pseudo educated suppressed homosexuals (not that homosexuality is bad, but suppressing it, geeze you liberal fucks should spread the cheeks and get it done with, you spit your wad a lot harder when the person fucking your ass has a towel on his head) eructating puerile shit.

I'm glad we are planning to make it possible to put me into bondage. I would rather die than be in bondage to these shitty subversive chinks or commies or morally bankrupt suppressive shitass Islamic Towelheads.

We have said for 40 years plus, you do it, you think about it, and you are gone. the red button gets pressed, the red telephone gets slammed on the receiver.

The Japs did well surrendering to us. They are the second or third largest economy in the World, jeeze, the USA really sucks to surrender to , huh? You tools need to think - you really think the US didn't do them a favor by burning down that house? They made off with our car industry for Christ's sake, and boy, I do love driving my Japanese car - its great. And I fucking paid it off in 9 months, $33,000 bucks. And not, its not public property, you cant have a ride, fuck off , its mine I PAID FOR IT. None of this commie shit.

John Walker scume floating around Marin. Bezerkelyite fuckers with Barney Telletubbie view of the world scumballing their shit subversive agenda.

I must say, piss on John Asscraft for being a fascist shit. I may hate you leftist fuck commies, but this right wing fascist shit sucks too.

Really, really. What is going on? There are circles of power, some leaning left, some leaning right, some existing for themselves. They divide the people of the world, always focusing on what makes us different! Are you a fag or not? Are you black or white? Are you left or right? Are you a fat fuck? You know what - I don't give a shit what you are, and that's still my fucking car. The circles of power want us to fight amongst ourselves while the prance off with all the fucking money and power.

Everyone wants a nice Japanese import car, real medical care (not socialized shit, like that shit in the UK where if you reach a certain age you entitlement to care is GONE, like if you get dialysis, hit age 65, they PULL THE FUCKING PLUG, because they are commie shits), they want halfway decent schools, freedom to think etc. We got all that here. I live it. You fall on your face here because you are lazy, not a caste system.

Tactical nukes are appropriate, and we had the finger on the button the last 50 years, we just want to remind the world, hey, have a wet dream, and well have a coupla kilotons of force to save us some money.

Appeasing Hitler landed Neville Chamberlain in the historical doghouse, and it took Winston Churchill to show the world the right way. To quote Churchill, "'Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others,'"

All high and mighty EU, they armed these fucking countries. Half the Islamic nations shit came from French military hardware, roundly supplemented by the zipper heads. The I hear some leftist shit in this thread quote MAO the DUNG on the US being the "paper tiger". HAH. Nice life expectancy in China there, Mao Tse Dung. Nice going, harvesting organs from political prisoners for the highest bidders and government dignitaries.

Commies say big business is evil. Hah. The "Evil" Big Business: Doesn't exist like you think it does. I am in a small business. My small business was created from money from big business to innovate new technology to stop Internet DDOS attacks. The innovation would be a B2B service for medium and small businesses. I get my health care, dental, paid vacation and education subsidy either directly or indirectly from Big "Evil?" Business. One could way to make things work better would be to give outright tax credits to companies doing good things in their communities, like building schools or repairing roads or bridges. I'm sure HP could negotiate a better price for the "NEW BAY AREA BRIDGE" than the cabal of stupid idiots running Oakland and San Francisco. Now that I think of HP, I think of a huge company that has built several hospitals and given BILLIONS of dollars in charity through the "David and Lucille Packard Foundation" - established 1964. General Electric was run by a bottom-to-top rags-to-riches engineer-to-CEO JACK WELCH [http://www.straightfromthegut.com/ good book]. Mr. Welch, a native of Salem, Massachusetts, served as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of General Electric from 1981-2001. He was nicknamed "Chainsaw" or "Neutron Jack" because he fired people. He was painted as evil He was the epitome of an evil CEO. Yeah riiiight. He fired the lower 10% every year. He removed the bottom 10% with sound metrics. He FIRED losers. And those vocal minority losers who can't work up to corporate standards whined and pissed and made the public think that he was "EVIL." The losers seem to speak up the loudest. By the way, GE has a long standing tradition of employee investment - education subsidy, good pensions, health care, etc etc. Yeah, GE dumped shit in the Hudson. Yes, GE made mistakes. The Chinese STILL dump shit in their rivers, we stopped doing it 30 years ago. Does it help GE to maximize shareholder profit if they are being forced to clean up shit they dump? No, so they stopped doing it a LONG time ago. Are some businesses evil? Yes. Are they all, flat out NO. It doesn't pay long term to be "evil."

Point: Be angry at the media for sucking, be angry at the government for wasting your money. Unless we get a western version of Mohandas Gandhi, be angry with every single Congressman, Senator whatever else. They step on your heads everyday.

Time to go read about some new scientific discoveries or new information about open source software or something interesting. Politics suck.

God I love those Krauts too. The fucking purified leftovers from the National Socialist party. Fuck you krauts. You started two god damn world wars. This Eurotarded Eurotrash Union is a suck bag quagmire of shit.

And these Towelheads and their newfound love for Palestine. Keep in mind these Palestinian vagrants have been booted out of every ISLAMIC nation they try to infect. They are hooligan vagrants , and if you replaced Israel with lets say, a pro Towel regime like France, they would be next on hit list of all the adjacent Arab nations. No one wants to pay for these tent toting Neanderthalic holdovers from the 3rd century. May as well kill them. We wont have to in the long run, the morally bankrupt Islamic nations will mop them up for us when they have expired their usefulness to their twisted cause.

And everyone blames DUBYA, like one person runs the fucking country. Meanwhile, the Congress and Senate make all the fuckin laws, the only power W gets is a big fat Veto. There isn't much the legislative branch can't override. DYBYA has an big administration, so of it is typical Right wing special interest trash, some of it is true blue pro the future of America. Shit, these people have to have some notion of self preservation. Every single Bush family relative isn't surviving WWIII, fuck, I'd be willing to be that 90% of everyone in that administration's extended families would be dead as doornails if there was an all out nuclear conflict. No one wants an extended nuclear conflict, but I would pay front row admission to see bin Towelheads skin get baked off by a tactical nuke dropped off by a Predator or some shit. You don't eve have to aim.

The geopolitical situation in the world is not solely exacerbated by the US. It is bullshit to think that this country control the world's direction. People want what we have and aren't willing to adopt our ways. We get what we want by worshipping our own dollar, more than POWER or RELIGION. Its only natural cretins don't catch on to this and feel like trying to defeat us "imperialists." Hey, quick secret you fuckers who hate us - STOP BUYING AND SELLING SHIT TO US, STOP USING OUR CURRENCY. I would be willing to bet that most of the world printed US currency isn't even in the US. Out of many one, e plurbus unum. Printed on the fucking money. I don't buy trickle down doesn't work either, our success trickles down. People think we should have the upper hand after we invent all this shit and create a venue for success because they are failures in life and have to resort to communism or socialism to make up for the fact they need Viagra to get it up, another American invention.

I love how America is seen as this pretty glass castle, and the rest of the serfs plowing the fields for a fair wage all start tossing rocks because they or their culture or their family failed to give the intellectual tools to succeed. Yeah, that's our fault.

I don't think an Islamic person will ever set foot off this planet, because anything not of the planet or Mecca or any aliens are probably UNCLEAN, UNHOLY and vile, and they MUST BEND to ALLAHS will. I cant believe people still believe in this superstitious bullshit.

Hey lefty, youll get extra credit for your shit clas at Berkelely - its called the SUNDANESE CULTURAL CLASS, 101, learn to carve a girls clitoris off! 4 CREDITS!

1. Take off car's gas cap.

2. Hump the hole furiously.

1. Take off car's gas cap.

2. Hump the hole furiously.

1. Take off car's gas cap.

2. Hump the hole furiously.

fuck da police (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427741)

fuck da police too!

SOT Office?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427746)

Well, with a name like that it ought to sell great. I mean, what does it do? Go to the bar and get drunk with you after work?

Unfortunate naming. (5, Funny)

aussersterne (212916) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427749)

Is it just me, or is this going to sound like "Sod Office" in casual speech?

Re:Unfortunate naming. (1)

Edgewize (262271) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427768)

Worse still, how are hyper-paranoid Americans going to react to employees running around their workplaces with unregistered SodOff's? *rimshot*

Re:Unfortunate naming. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427822)

how are hyper-paranoid Americans going to react

Probably the same way Germans will.

Re:Unfortunate naming. (1)

foniksonik (573572) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427862)

"unregistered SodOff's?" =-)

That of course it the best bar none.

PIECE OF SHIT Office Suite (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427787)

I think the submitter of the story and the editors made a mistake in the name of the new office suite.

It should have been POS Office.

POS obviously standing for PIECE OF SHIT, and Office standing for Office.

I hope this slipup will not happen again, editors.

Annual Maintenance (1, Troll)

CmdrTaco (editor) (564483) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427750)

Future-proofing with Annual Maintenance
From time to time, we release update patches (Bunches of Helpful Fixes, or BOHFs) for SOT Office, including improvements and new document filters. By joining our Annual Maintenance program, you'll receive notification of the BOHFs and installation keys as they become available.

They should think about changing the name. "Annual Maintenance" implies that it occurs once a year, which isn't a very strong selling point.

Re:Annual Maintenance (0, Offtopic)

repetty (260322) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427795)

"Annual Maintenance"...

Yep, reading that just made my member wither.

I don't do subscriptions.

--Richard

Re:Annual Maintenance (0)

cyril3 (522783) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427797)

I didn't get the impression that it only happened once a year but I can see some might. However Annual Licence Fee would have drawn immeadiate fire. As it is I can see only that SOT is free for installation then half the price of MS Office subscription plus its not MS Office. I'm not sure the value is there. I'm going to try it though.

I think the reasons why MS Office is so wide spread is not because its better but that it has been accepted as standard by so many users and developers. aAs an example look at the client accounting software we use (public accountants office) There are hooks from the client database into MS Office so I can save letters and workpapers under the client from the MS Word and Excel menus. Not earth shattering but I can't see the developers doing it for any other suites.

That's a big chunk o' source (0, Offtopic)

jsmaby (217465) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427752)

Downloading the 120,513,641 byte source tarball now... let this thing compile over night and see if it's done in the morning. (oops, think it's just felt the slashdot effect...maybe I'll see if it's downloaded by then).

Off Topic : I LOVE SLASHDOT (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427755)

I just got kicked off a different bbs for questioning the deletion of a post (e.g. censorship) and I must say... DAMN it's good to come back to slashdot, where I can actually learn somethiing from people I respect. Way to go, y'all. It's good to be back.

Re:Off Topic : I LOVE SLASHDOT (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427763)

(Score: -1, Offtopic)

Stuff can't be deleted here, but it can be hidden.

Re:Off Topic : I LOVE SLASHDOT (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427859)

Oh the irony! It's like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife!

OSX Port (3, Insightful)

OptimizedPrime (558992) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427756)

I wonder how long, if ever it will be before this gets ported to OSX. That's a platform that seems to be getting a lot of growth as a unix, with the powerbook routinely being rated as one of the best unix portables available. This is a platform that, while it has office, really needs a free suite of office programs for those of us who don't want to use Microsoft's products but need the compatability, and this program seems like it would fit the bill exactly.

Re:OSX Port (1)

thegoldenear (323630) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427794)

why not use the OSX port of OpenOffice?

Re:OSX Port (2)

Dominic_Mazzoni (125164) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427902)

Maybe because the Mac OS X port of OpenOffice doesn't exist yet? (So far they only have 90% of the code _compiling_, much less running correctly.)

I love my Mac, but unfortunately the majority of Mac developers are not used to the idea of open source. Hardly anyone is interested in working on this project.

Re:OS X Port (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427914)

I tried to help...they've prioritized the OS X version so far down, it's a fight just to get them to respond to e-mails. When it looked like anything worth compiling was 24 months out, I figured my time was best spent elsewhere.

Re:OS X Port (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427904)

Have you used the OS X port of OO?

...didn't think so.

Or in question form...."what port of OO for OS X?"

Re:OSX Port (2)

TandyMasterControl (136043) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427907)

Because it doesn't exist? And maybe these helpful Finns could supply one porting the same OpenOffice source they're using to release modified X86 versions for windows and linux?

That could be why.

Check the screenshots (3, Interesting)

Morthaur (108553) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427758)

The screenshots show an application that's identical to OpenOffice, save only the name, and the colours used in the instaler. Makes you wonder, what's the point?!

Why does this even merit a /. story; it's just a niche-market re-branding of a free software product. Stick to OpenOffice, it already rocks.

You mentioned the point in your post (2)

twilight30 (84644) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427800)

That is, a rebranding, for a niche market (though I am at a loss to say exactly what that niche would be). I am in agreement with you -- perhaps they're trying for venture capital? Seems needless to me too. It would make sense (maybe) if they re-badged an existing proprietary product, or if the size of the original proved impossible to download cleanly through a fast connection. Perhaps the Bezier curves capability mentioned by another poster is much improved over OOffice. I don't know as I've not used that part too much at all. In that case, however, it would make much more sense to just simply release the filters/modules/whatever for this part as an upstream add-on to OOffice and let everyone know about it. Oh well. I won't switch, at any rate.

Re:Check the screenshots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427808)

Maybe the installer is better. Or there is better integration on Linux (kde/gnome icons!!!)> OO sucks in this regard.

Target: Finnish Goverment (5, Interesting)

villoks (27306) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427841)

Well,

As far as I know, their primary target is the Finnish audience. They have added features like Finnish spelling and the package has also Finnish menus etc.

This actually makes sense, many Finnish government agencis are currently considering switching to linux and the Finnish office software is something which is really requited. The Finnish Custon uses already Open Office btw.

Ville

I don't think this is a good idea (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427766)

I don't think offering a new office suite is really a good idea. There should only be one office suite that everyone uses. Who cares if you can make them all compatible.

People don't like choices. People don't like spending the time choosing between products and comparing them to see which one is the best. What they do want is one choice. That is why Microsoft is doing so well. Windows has everything they need and they don't need to compare anything to get the product.

Linux on the otherhand is just a mass of choices. You want security, you take this distro. You want compatability, you take this distro. That is why Linux will never make it on the desktop. People are just overwhelmed at the amount of choices.

If you really want to dethrone Microsoft Office, promote StarOffice/OpenOffice as the ONE choice in opensource/free office suites.

Re:I do think it is a good idea (2)

fferreres (525414) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427837)

If you really look at what is happening is that that SOT distribution has chosen OpenOffice as the office suit. So that's the only (default) choice for that distro's users. It's obviously openoffice so it's oo compatible as well as msoffice compatible.

If anyone else wants to custom install this SOT on other distro, it may be someone that is not the average user. Don't be folled by the apparent number of competitors. You only have. The KDE suit, the Gnome suit, and openoffice. Everything else is next to unusuable.

If sun bundles gnome with sun computers, you will get openoffice. If it's not a corporate targeted distro you may have gnumeric, abiword. If the distro focuses on KDE, kword and family.

I like having 3 alternatives. In the opensource arena you can't can't afford to put everything into one basquet. If you do that you risk losing everithing if a project fades away. And that has already happened.

Anyway i agree that 1 perfect aplication is better than 3 half working ones!

Re:I don't think this is a good idea (0)

linux_avenger (573747) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427927)

People don't like choices... Linux on the otherhand is just a mass of choices.

If you sincerely, believe this is true, why are you posting anonymously? It is true there are people that don't like lingering long over tough decisions, doing due diligence on software before buying it. However, if having choice meant that people would avoid participation, then the stock market idea would have died long ago. After all, you have to spend some serious time studying money, finance, a companies' performance, etc. before buying a stock. And there are thousands upon thousands of stocks to choose from. And people that like to buy stocks without looking into it will suffer unless they get lucky in the stock market. The best part of Linux being a mass of choices, is it doesn't hurt to try out those "choices", since most of them are free.

SOT Linux and Office (4, Informative)

Lucky_Pierre (175635) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427771)

I downloaded their new (renamed) distro SOT Linux along with SOT Office (Linux and Windows) Saturday night. SOT Linux installed very nicely as did both versions of SOT Office. So far I have nothing to complain about. Nice distro and VERY nice installer.

Difference between SOT and OpenOffice? (1)

potifar (87326) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427782)

So what additional functionality does SOT Office offer over Open Office?

I had a quick look at their web site and I couldn't find anything about this.

Re:Difference between SOT and OpenOffice? (2, Informative)

sleontuX (576709) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427801)

For example i can read russian doc's.
Or i can make presentations and they are saved in powerpoint format.

What?!? (1)

VFVTHUNTER (66253) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427796)

"SOT, a Linux-distributor from the home-country of Linux"

Linux is now a country? It wasn't enough that it was ported to MIPS, Dreamcast, etc? They had to get a government to run it???

Oh you mean Finland...my bad :)

SPELLING CORECTION: PIECE OF SHIT OFFICE SUITE (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427798)

I think the submitter of the story and the editors made a mistake in the name of the new office suite.

It should have been POS Office.

POS obviously standing for PIECE OF SHIT, and Office standing for Office.

I hope this slipup will not happen again, editors.

This exact comment has already been posted. Try to be more original...

Hot damm! (-1, Redundant)

baywulf (214371) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427802)

Now I have a choice among Star Office, Open Office and SOT Office. Take that Microsoft! ;)

WordPerfect (2)

AntiNorm (155641) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427817)

According to SOT, it is the only office application you will ever need, as it is fully compatible with MS Office and StarOffice

Is it compatible with WordPerfect? Nearly all of the word processor files I have are in .wpd format...

Re:WordPerfect (3, Interesting)

mstyne (133363) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427832)

It would seem that it doesn't handle .wpd. However, it looks like you can open Microsoft Word files going back as far as Office 95. It also handles Star Office's Star Writer format. I'm going to look into both this and the original Open Office, as my Star Office 6.0 Beta is slated to expire in June.

You pay for the BOHF's (1)

jolted669 (576714) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427860)

"BOHFs (Bunches of Helpful Fixes) are occasional updates to SOT Office. To install a BOHF you will need an installation key, which can be obtained by signing up for the SOT Office Annual Maintenance program. We strongly recommend you update SOT Office to the latest available version before using it for the first time."

cost for the SOT Office Annual Maintenance program: 80.74 USD including TAX 22%

That's a dirty trick. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427889)

So Sun os 'es thier soffice code and now these butt monkeys steal it, brand it as a commercial product and SELL it (or services related to it) as a COMPETITOR to star office. I know that this is perfectly allowed in the oss world, but it just seems kind of sleezy to me. -- Unless they are contributing something worthwhile to the development of open office, of course.

At first glance it seems that they are not.

What's the difference? (1)

magi (91730) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427868)

The description doesn't seem very different from OpenOffice(.org!!!11). It makes me think if the "partly based on OpenOffice.org" actually means everything but the name and graphics...

Not that there's anything wrong in repackaging GPL'ed software, as long as you give the credit where credit is due, and the source of course. Which they seem to do.

Re:What's the difference? (0)

linux_avenger (573747) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427933)

repackaging, or repackaging AND forking. Both of which are undesirable, but still permissible, and perhaps bound to happen, even if it means confusion among the community, and wasted development hours. Sigh...

Re:What's the difference? (1)

Mordac the Preventer (36096) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427941)

Not that there's anything wrong in repackaging GPL'ed software, as long as you give the credit where credit is due, and the source of course. Which they seem to do.

Apart from the updates, which you have to pay for.

Surely updates to a GPLed package must also be covered by the GPL? Shouldn't the source for those be freely available? Otherwise they can post the GPLed body as the 'base' version, which is free, and then post enhancements which only paying customers can install...

Nice, but... (2)

Jethro (14165) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427872)

Will this thing make my machine hang during installation like OpenOffice does?

(OpenOffice hangs my machine when attempting to run it with DRI enabled, apparently a known bug or something).

Re:Nice, but... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427921)

Err... You mean DRI hangs your machine, don't you?
Or do you suppose Open Office itself is really requesting access to hardware, video hardware for example, hardware that doesn't want to respond, thus locking X and maybe deadlocking your kernel.

Maybe I'd feel some sympathy for you if you could point to one thing DRI is good for - besides locking users' systems?

The SOT Office is just a cheap imitation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427882)

It's just Open Office rebranded I guess.
I can hardly believe they have invested
any serious money in it having seen the
professionalism of their previous products.

I wonder how can anybody have the guts to
boast that way.

OpenOffice fonts! (1, Informative)

robatmoofed (446041) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427883)

i'm using debian, and the fonts are terrible! (the fonts used by the program for things such as menus).

Anyone know how to fix the problem?

Do other distros have this problem?

I just saw the screenshots for SOT, and the fonts looked as they should.

Re:OpenOffice fonts! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3427905)

I have the same problem in Mandrake 8.2 -- the anti-alliasing doensnt work at all. It sucks. I gather from reading posts on the oo mailing lists that antialliasing works under current open office builds only if you are running Xfree86 4.1.

My video card only works in the older version (3.3.6) I think, so you may be having the same problem as me.

The oo developers know about this problem. I assume that it will get fixed for the next release (Supposed to be open office 1.0) as this seems like this is something that should definatlye work in a 1.0 release.

I would imagine that SOT has the same problem -- They probably just took the screen shot with a system that was running Xfree86 4.1.

This is now illegal (1, Redundant)

Hyperfrog (575345) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427890)

For those who don't know, Micro$haft has taken legal steps, recently, that mean that no one else can use the M$ Office file types. Basically, making it illegal to read/write M$ stuff without their express permission.

To put it another way: they hate the GPL, they hate Opensource and they hate the way people have taken off their Office Suite and are now doing something about it. Check their press releases for this one, cause I don't have the URL on me.

Re:This is now illegal (2, Informative)

saphena (322272) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427923)

It's really hard to imagine what law they might use to outlaw the actual reading and writing of "their" file formats and I've just had a quick look round their website and found nothing.

It's almost certainly illegal to reverse engineer one of their applications to deduce the file format but, if you can manage without doing that, it should be perfectly legal whatever they say.

Re:This is now illegal (0)

linux_avenger (573747) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427937)

Basically, making it illegal to read/write M$ stuff without their express permission.

Ummm... And who passed this new law? Is Bill Gates the President now?

Odd acronyms (3, Funny)

steveha (103154) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427899)

SOT is a little odd, but the one that got me was Bunch of Helpful Fixes (BOHF). When I saw BOHF I immediately thought "Bastard Operator from Hell".

Maybe the first BOHF will add Back Orifice functionality to SOT Office, so you can take over all the MS boxes on your net. And an exuses database.

steveha

Re:Odd acronyms (3, Funny)

Stephen VanDahm (88206) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427967)

"When I saw BOHF I immediately thought "Bastard Operator from Hell.'"

Bastard Operator Harassment of Finland. For starters, the minimum system requirements call for 64 MB more RAM than you have, regardless of how much RAM you have. And they have a talking paperclip that, rather than trying to help you, tells you to RTFM, which is, of course, written in Russian. This product is exciting news, because in spite of everything, it's still more cost effective and easier to use than MS Office.

The Point of SOT Office (1)

thannine (576719) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427938)

People have asked what's the difference between SOT Office and Open Office. Seems to me that the main difference is that there is a FINNISH version ov SOT Office that they sell for 99 EUR. So the english vesion is free, but you'll have to pay for finnish spell-check helps etc.

woo (2)

nomadic (141991) | more than 12 years ago | (#3427964)

I hope this shows the corporate world how profitable open source can be.

By releasing the source code to open office Sun stands to make MILLIONS on this.

Once again the open source model triumphs in the marketplace.
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