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# Slashback: Wal-Modem, Culpability, Misquotes

#### timothy posted more than 12 years ago | from the contagious-contagion dept.

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Slashback with a weekend worth of updates on Wal-Mart's OS-free PC, the End of the Simpsons, Harlan Ellison v. AOL, wireless goodies and more. Read on below for the goods.

There must be some mistake; this is what I wanted. Masem writes: "The review of the OS-less PCs sold through Wal-Mart brought out a lot of comments on the inclusion of a WinModem, effectively requiring Windows to make the computer work correctly. However, NewsForge reports that shortly after that posting, Microtel, the makers of these computers, wrote back to the reviewer and indicated that new versions of the systems will ship with Linux-friendly modems from now on. Nice to see a company that knows its target audience and how to make them happy."

Thanks, Microtel!

Next: ethernet cable manufacturers. cpt kangarooski writes: "For those tuning in late, Harlan Ellison sued AOL (among others) for having the temerity to permit users to upload copies of his copyrighted works across their networks on the Usenet. As it turns out, AOL was in the right, and got a summary judgment against Ellison.

The opinion by Judge Cooper is located here in PDF format Given his reputation, Ellison will likely appeal."

Welcome to Ix, please take off your shoes. cayle clark writes "A few months back I asked slashdot about shopping in the Akihabara, Tokyo's famous "electric town," and got lots of good advice. Well, now I been and went there, took some pictures, and posted an illustrated account here. Netting it out, it's a keen place to wander, and prices are in some (but only some) cases lower than in the USA."

Hacking at the ties that bind Following up on the new venture in wireless from the LinuxCare crew, Dave Sifry writes "802.11b Networking News wrote up a summary of the new Sputnik Gateway release today, codenamed Stagecoach. The Community Gateway code runs from CD and turns a computer with an ethernet card and Prism 802.11b card into a secure authenticating firewalled 802.11b Access Point. New features of this release include support for desktop cards, like the Linksys WMP11 PCI card, which means that you can turn your old 486 in a closet into a cheap secure wireless router."

I'd rather they save Futurama, but gift horse, teeth, etc. Remik writes "Yahoo News is carrying this story letting Simpsons creator Matt Groening set the record straight that the Simpsons isn't winding down and that it isn't on the ropes. He claims he was misquoted and misunderstood in a Financial Times of London article that came out earlier this week and that he does indeed has stories for years and years. What if Marge became a robot? Hmm..."

Has anyone detected the envelope with the winner's name yet? SoundGuy666 writes "Looks like SETI made it past that 500 million milestone - wonder who won the $500 prize..." cancel × ### 470 comments ### Sorry! There are no comments related to the filter you selected. ### FP (-1, Offtopic) #### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3473884) OH YEAH! ### 300 episodes? (0, Redundant) #### jlowery (47102) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473895) How come when I watch it's always a rerun? ### Re:300 episodes? (0) #### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3474174) you're probably watching the wrong chanel, foo. around here, fox runs it once or twice a week (usually new or as-of-this-week) while UPN runs in many many times every day (always reruns). ### "Isn't on the ropes?" (4, Interesting) #### NickRob (575331) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473898) Funny, the episode last night showed a huge lack of imagination. The network may want to beat the horse for more cash, but that doesn't mean that it's not in deep trouble. ### Re:"Isn't on the ropes?" (1) #### dimator (71399) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474027) That's amazing. I thought the episode last night was very well written, and hilarious. One of the best this season, to be sure. ### Re:"Isn't on the ropes?" (4, Funny) #### (startx) (37027) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474097) did you notice what bart was writing on the chalkboard too? :P "I will not spread false rumors of being canceled" or something like that. I busted out laughing for like 5 minutes. ### Re:"Isn't on the ropes?" (2, Interesting) #### kellin (28417) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474169) That was the funniest thing about the entire episode. I'd have to say that last night's episode was the worst I'd seen of this season. It had its funny moments, but overall left me rather "ho hum". The previous two episodes were *far* funnier. ### Re:"Isn't on the ropes?" (2, Interesting) #### evilquaker (35963) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474173) That's amazing. I thought the episode last night was very well written, and hilarious. One of the best this season, to be sure. Maybe it was one of the best this season, but you have to admit the whole "you're not in any kind of physical pain... the only kind of pain men understand" joke was really clunky and lame... as was the Marge-reads-Homer's mind bit... Neither of those would've happened in episodes past... ### Shitting Bricks. (-1, Offtopic) #### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3473902) GOAT KORAN [goatse.cx] Classic 1 HIT ME IN THE SHITTER BABY, UGH HUH [es.org] Classic 2 Oh yeah, in the shitter some more, in the shitter. [es.org] Classic 3 More Ass stretchin goodness. [es.org] Female Goater My pussy is too small for this melon. [es.org] Goatse Grandpas - GRANPA GOAT S3X0R5 [es.org] Son of a Goat - Holy fucking son of a goat. 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(0) #### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3473978) That's fucking awesome. Keep up the good work. ### Usenet? (5, Funny) #### Denor (89982) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473904) Harlan Ellison sued AOL (among others) for having the temerity to permit users to upload copies of his copyrighted works across their networks on the Usenet Come on man, get with it! Suing over usenet piracy is so 90's. It's all about suing p2p now! Next thing you know, he'll start railing off on the evils of DOOM. ### Greater source of hot air:Bob Metcalfe ot Ellison? (0, Flamebait) #### glrotate (300695) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473936) Ellison is without doubt the most pompous jackass I've ever seen in my life. ### Re:Greater source of hot air:Bob Metcalfe ot Ellis (0) #### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3474095) No, not the articles not about Larry Ellison, it's about Harlan Ellison. ### Re:Usenet? 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Last night's episode made some sort of reference to the cancellations rumours and I kind of had to wonder what that was all about. I guess now I know. ### Re:Blackboard comment (0) #### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3474058) thanks for sharing with us your every thought Mr. GSS. ### Re:Blackboard comment (0) #### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3474103) seriously i was almost about to shit myself wondering what gss thought of the "blackboard comment" which i can only guess is some sort of african american based homosexual reference that i will not attempt to decipher HAIL SATAN ### Re:Blackboard comment (0, Troll) #### CmdrTaco (editor) (564483) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474112) Yeah, I didn't catch the reference at first either. For those of you that didn't watch the show, the opening credits every week feature Bart writing a message repeatedly on the school chalk board, repetition style. Every week there is a new message. Last night, Bart wrote "I will never joke about cancelling the show again." ### Microtel (3, Informative) #### NickRob (575331) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473910) Hey, they're just starting out. We can look at all the errors of every computer manufacturer in their first models. The Altair 8088 and Apple 1 were both kits, requiring a great deal of know-how (especially then) and allowed for a large deal of Human error (This was in the days of shag carpetting). Microtel is going to have a large amount of future successes for freeing us from the evil tyrant of Microsoft! Thank you, Microtel for having the balls to stand up! ### Re:Microtel (0) #### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3474136) the apple I wasn't entirely a kit -- the mobo came with everything attached. It didn't include a monitor, or keyboard, or even a case (although they did work out a deal with a cupertino furniture manufacturor to make the wooden cases often seen), but they weren't the assemble-it-yourself kits that earlier home computers were. ### big surprise (2, Funny) #### jethro200 (573288) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473913) Surprise surprise! Someone got it wrong and sold a lot more issues by misquoting the Simpson's creator, saying that he was going to stop making new episodes. How convenient. It is such a rarity too, that a magazine would misquote someone to have a big story. Of course, I'm sure that it was entirely unintentional... ### It has to be said! (0) #### Japanese Fuckslut (554887) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474075) The actual text of what he said wasn't even very specific, and more or less reiterated what everyone else already knows: The Simpsons has had a long and successful run, but it's winding down to the last few seasons. It's not a news magazine, sports showcase, or other kind of program that is constantly fed with new material. The show has limitations, and it's already explored just about every comedic nuance of its characters. It will of course be sad when it finally leaves the air, but the show is 13 seasons old. It's not going to go on forever! ### Walmart - Microsoft should sue them. (0) #### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3473917) For encouraging piracy with these OS-free PCs. I mean, how many Wal-Mart customers are going to run an Open Source operating system ? Not many I'll bet most of them simply pirate a copy of Windows! ### Who or what is Microsoft??? (0) #### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3473967) Never heard of 'em. ### Slashdot sucks horse balls (-1, Troll) #### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3473922) And Rob Malda eats shit. Come to Kuro5hin [kuro5hin.org] for great Justice! ### Re:Slashdot sucks horse balls (0, Offtopic) #### ironfroggy (262096) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474114) such inter-OSDN bickering... *sigh* ### would you like to have something to eat? (-1) #### Anonymous Cowrad (571322) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473937) would you like some hot gravy and meat? ### Re:would you like to have something to eat? (-1) #### YourMissionForToday (556292) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473961) I would not like Pink Eggs and Spam. I would not like them, BRAAAP-I-am. This early post for Vinnie Buttalifta, the Amish frog version of Joey Buttafuoco! ### help me understand! (-1, Offtopic) #### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3473944) I just got this email a min ago. What I'd like to ask Slashdot, is, why can't they take the money from just one of these TWO HUNDRED W2K Pro licences they are about to purchase, and give it to me so I can buy a blowjob from my boss? Better yet, explain "#6" to me... ? And why is Win98 unsutable for being on a "new network"? (I make$10/hr.)

BEGIN
As you may have heard, (we) are migrating to a new local area network (LAN) this spring. In addition to replacing our LAN server and using a different operating system on it, we will be upgrading the operating system on your desktop PC to Windows 2000 Pro.

Why are we doing this?
1. We have to make major changes in our network to accommodate Reference as they move to XXXX. The separate but linked LAN at Reference Service must be taken down, and all of their files have to be merged into the XXXX LAN, with appropriate passwords and access rights.
2. Many of our LAN services are Microsoft-based, and Andy will have to do less gerryrigging to make things work with the new operating system.
3. You will have your own desktop configuration at any PC in our building, not just at your desk.
4. The new LAN should be more stable and easier to administer, making us all more productive.
5. Support for Windows 98, which we all have on our PC's, is being phased out.
6. We have some funding available to undertake this project and need to do so.

How will this be implemented?
1. We are planning to make the transition as easy as possible, especially since we know everyone is facing a lot of change this spring with the remodeling project and Reference's move. Our IT consultant, XYZ, is working with Andy, who is being retrained to work with the new operating system. Together they have selected, purchased, and installed the new hardware and software in the computer room.
2. They have also installed Windows 2000 Pro on a PC, and next week IT staff start the process of testing. Our major concerns are that the response time on staff PC's be acceptable and that all necessary software required to do our work function well with the new desktop operating system. Meanwhile, XYZ and Andy will continue to work on the migration, setting up the new print queues, etc.
3. Assuming all goes well, the next step is to install Windows 2000 Pro on the PC's used by IT staff. This is a continuation of the testing process, since IT staff tend to use a broad range of software and frequently have 5-8 windows open all at the same time. This step is also to learn the new environment well enough that we can develop training materials for all staff.
4. IT staff plan to conduct training for staff in late May. We don't expect there will be a lot to learn. The desktop looks the same, for example, but the login process will be different, and everyone needs a chance to ask questions. We are thinking to start the week of May 24, and there were will be multiple opportunities over several weeks.
5. Soon after training, Andy will upgrade each PC at XXXX, and staff will start to use the new LAN.
6. Reference staff will move to the new LAN when they come to XXXX. Meanwhile, we are planning for uninterrupted communication between their LAN and ours, just as we have now.

What does this mean to me?
Very little, really. The look of your desktop will change a bit, but this migration is minor compared to the changes we face when learning a new software application or migrating to a new version of Word or whatever. But we do need for you do to some preparation.

What do I need to do to prepare?
The most important thing you can do is to work with Andy to clean up your desktop. It is time to do a good spring cleaning of your files. Here are some questions to ask yourself:
1. Do I really need multiple versions of a file? We often keep them for works-in-progress, but when the project is done, do you really need the whole history?
2. Are there files you haven't used in some time and cannot imagine needing in the future?
3. Are there better ways to organize your files? We do more and more collaborative work. Would it be better to have files in a shared directory than on your desktop?
4. Look especially at programs and files on your C:\drive. Andy is going to move as much as possible to a drive on the LAN server. This means it will get backed up automatically and you will have access from any part of the LAN (and hopefully from off-site soon).

What else do I need to know?
1. If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask me or Andy. In turn, we'll provide project updates as the testing and migration continues.
2. In case you are interested, this is only one project IT staff are engaged in this spring. Andy and XYZ are also installing a new backup system in the computer room for the LAN and all our network services (not SWAN). What's so great about it? It has an automated tape carousel so that the only time someone needs to feed in tapes is once a week. Besides this, X, XX, XXX, and I are working on a new Web environment. With new software we are going to be able to move ahead with the extranet and further intranet development, improve the Calendar, and have online access to the union list of serials. But more about those projects later.
END

### Moral Dilemma. (5, Funny)

#### Fat Casper (260409) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473945)

Clean PC... Wal-Mart...

Clean PC... Wal-Mart...

Clean PC... Wal-Mart... Aaaaaagh!

### Re:Moral Dilemma. (3, Interesting)

#### Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473977)

Here [mammals.org] is your solution for a Windows-free PC. Although it can run Office if you really need it to.

### Re:Moral Dilemma. (2)

#### BusterB (10791) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474016)

Why in the world is apple.com linked with mammals.org? What do apples have to do with mammals, other than mammals that eat apples, though lizards and birds eat apples too?

### Re:Moral Dilemma. (1)

#### Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474038)

Good question, and I don't really have the answer. I think has to do with an ad campaign that never made it past the conceptual stage. I can't remember how I found that, but hey, at least it doesn't point to goatse! [goatse.cx]

### Antenna Hookup (1)

#### Lokni (531043) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473947)

Is it possible to hook an external antenna up to a desktop WiFI card for increased range?

### Sure, just watch out for lightning (0)

#### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3473991)

Lightning always seems to strike antennas. It should work but if your guitar amp starts sounding like a modem you should probably turn your wattage down before the FCC gets you.

### Re:Antenna Hookup (0)

#### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3474013)

hasn't this question been asked about 400 times? yes, it's possible. get a mac, the Airport card has an antenna jack.

### Re:Antenna Hookup (1)

#### yack0 (2832) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474161)

There are many many many ways to hook up antennae to SOME network cards. Some wireless cards do not have the ability to do it easily.

Check out a search for 'wireless antenna' or '802.11b antenna'.

### Simpsons jumped the shark long ago (3, Insightful)

#### knodi (93913) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473950)

When did it jump? [jumptheshark.com] I think I know, but everyone agrees it's happened already.

As soon as I saw the episode where Marge is
kidnapped by a biker gang, I said "This is so
incredibly forced and predictable. They're not
trying any more. I bet this show ends soon."
I got 2 out of 3.

### Re:Simpsons jumped the shark long ago (2)

#### nomadic (141991) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473980)

Hmmm, I think the whole Skinner/Armin Tamzarian thing was the turning point.

### Re:Simpsons jumped the shark long ago (4, Funny)

#### ConceptJunkie (24823) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474031)

Hey, the Simpson's has years of great stories left. Why, the first example on the recent clipshow showed Homer jumping a shark. That's gotta be funny. Also, I don't recall hearing "The Simpsons are going to Antarctica!" yet. We haven't seen Homer quit his job and move to Connecticut to raise chickens, or better yet, move to California. We haven't seen Marge open up cute gift shop and have George Clooney as her handyman. Also, we haven't seen the cute little kid join the cast, the lame spin-offs, or 37 timeslot changes over 6 months.

Don't write the show off yet.

### Re:Simpsons jumped the shark long ago (2)

#### bje2 (533276) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474051)

After last season, i thought for sure that Simpsons was gonna be cancelled...heck, i was calling for it myself...most of the shows last season (like the one with the elf-jockeys) made little or no sense, and even had some self depricating humor that suggested that the series had out lived it's usefulness...however, i think this year's season has be a strong comeback for Homer and the Simpson clan...sure, it's not their glory years, but it's still a damn entertaining show....

### Re:Simpsons jumped the shark long ago (1)

#### Slarty (11126) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474178)

I totally agree... true, The Simpsons has gone downhill over the past few years, it's still way more entertaining than most of the other stuff on TV these days.

### 'Behind The Laughter' (2)

#### wackybrit (321117) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474102)

The Simpsons jumped the shark in the season that ended with the Behind The Laughter episode.. Season 12, I think? The characters have been rather 'off' since then.. and 'Behind The Laughter' was worst episode ever anyway.. so it's a good point to mark.

### Re:Simpsons jumped the shark long ago (0)

#### BenD963 (413130) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474141)

It has not jumped the shark.

Writers can have bad episodes and even a bad year, and it doesnt mean that they are finished. Two bad years of programing are being made up because this year is substantially better than the previous two years.

### Stay away from Wal-Mart (-1, Troll)

#### atrowe (209484) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473959)

While they might have cheap, Linux-friendly PCs, I would urge everyone to avoid shopping at Wal-Mart at all costs. Wal-Mart is well known for their globalization tactics, their use of third-world labor, and their opression of competition in small-towns.

A large portion of Wal-Mart's merchandise is produced in third-world countries under sweatshop conditions. This immoral and unethical business practice may save you a few pennies at the checkout but it exploits children and exaggerates the distance between socioeconomic classes. Even the processor in the "linux-friendly PC" sold at Wal-Mart is manufactured from child labor in third-world countries. It is a well known fact that AMD Duron processors are made in a sweatshop in Maylasia. I would urge everyone concerned with the exploitation of the poor children to purchase only American-made genuine Intel processors. Furthermore, using third-world labor for manufacturing causes significant harm to the American economy because of the tens of thousands of blue collar manufacturing jobs which have been moved overseas. Wal-Mart portrays a patriotic image in its advertising campaigns, but in reality is an evil corporate monster who exploits children for the sake of its own bottom line. The best way to fight this is with our dollars. Don't spend any money at Wal-Mart and support their evil globalised empire. If we all band together, we can stop this evil menace.

### Re:Stay away from Wal-Mart (2)

#### rcs1000 (462363) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473994)

Wal-Mart is well known for their globalization tactics

... excuse me???

Their globalisation tactics? Errr... like selling to people?

Or maybe you mean allowing people to buy - say - mangos, or bananas?

There are many reasons not to buy from Wal-Mart. But 'their globalisation tactics', whatever they may be - and they seem hardly different from anyone that either sells into different countries, or sells to different countries - hardly seems one of them.

*r

### Troll (0)

#### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3474006)

Nice trolling, now write something legible.

### Maybe those kids need jobs? (0)

#### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3474021)

What do you propose to do with them if you take away their jobs? Those countrys are going through the "sweatshop phase" just like all the other first-world countries did. Oh, I know, give them AK-47's and teach them how the mean of production should be operated by the state? You asswipe...

### Re:Stay away from Wal-Mart (1)

#### ghack (454608) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474024)

Of course they are!

Like EVERY OTHER GOD-DAMN RETAILER!

What, did you just WAKE UP?

Is this a joke??? (It isnt very funny)

What is wrong with globalization?

### Re:Stay away from Wal-Mart (0, Flamebait)

#### 55GallonsOfGoatGoo (578141) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474026)

It is a well known fact that AMD Duron processors are made in a sweatshop in Maylasia.

Is it? I can't seem to find any references to this well known fact using Google. Perhaps you should cite references for the benefit of the unwashed, uninformed masses.

### Re:Stay away from Wal-Mart (2)

#### singularity (2031) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474029)

The better reason to avoid Wal-Mart is the same reason to avoid Microsoft - both are very guilty of monopolistic abuses (MS has been found guilty, Wal-Mart is just as bad but has not been investigated).

Go into any small town in the American South. Look at the amount of competition both before and after Wal-Mart moved in. Look at what Wal-Mart does to their old buildings after they move into a "Super Wal-Mart" (sometimes less than 1/2 mile away).

Wal-Mart drives all of the smaller competitors out of business. Now they are driving K-Mart out. They refuse to lease their old buildings, preferring to leave them empty.

### Re:Stay away from Wal-Mart (1)

#### Saeculorum (547931) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474159)

Welcome to capitalism, my friend.

### Re:Stay away from Wal-Mart (2)

#### jedidiah (1196) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474181)

No, the better reason to stay away from both Microsoft and Wal-mart is that they produce crappy product. Urban Wal-marts make even the worst of their K-mart counterparts seem downright pleasant.

### Oooohhhh...nasty nasty! (3, Insightful)

#### A nonymous Coward (7548) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474034)

globalization...third world labor

Gosh break out the moral dilemna rags!

Good grief. Globalization itself is not evil, no more than capitalism or socialism is evil.

And what the heck is wrong with employing third world labor? You mean they should go without jobs?

Hey buddy, my truck was built in Indiana and North Carolina by a Japanese company. Should I refuse to buy any truck not built within 50 miles of where I live, and not built by locals?

Get a grip. Nothing is local any more. Any Wal Mart driving out inefficient mom-and-pop stores, well, too bad, but that's how progress works. The downside is the newly unemployed have to find a new job. The upside is costs drop, and society finds other uses for previously inefficient workers. They have been fred upt o do something NEW. Got a problem with that?

Yeh, let's all go back so damn far that everyone is employed locally, say, all the way back to when everyone had their own garden, made their own clothes, and so on.

I personally dislike Wal-Mart for their extreme penny puinching attitude, I always feel like they are squeezing the last penny out of every thing, and like I should go shower after leaving the place. I don't shop there much. But they have done a hell of a lot of good in keeping prices low for the great unwashed majority. I say Go Wal-Mart!

### Re:Oooohhhh...nasty nasty! (2)

#### BrookHarty (9119) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474167)

To say walmart sells to the lower income is wrong. They have the buying power to sell at a lowerprice. This is the same way costco or sams club has been doing business for years.

Of course, lower price means increased business, and that means longer lines.

Reminds of AOL, sell unlimited for cheap, everyone joins, busy signals. But the high priced ISPs had the best connections and never a busy signal.

### Re:Oooohhhh...nasty nasty! (1)

#### awol (98751) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474168)

the problem is that the globalisation did not go far enough. Bretton woods was designed to create an environment where the natural efficiencies of different regions should prosper. But unfortunately many governements lacked the courage to acknowledge (perhaps for good reason perhaps not) that, for example, not every country needed a car industry or that grain producers in Europe should be able to compete with farms the size of switzerland in Australia. So barriers to trade were created and capital did not flow to the third world to precisey exploit the beefits that their cheaper labour bring. Expanding yhe use of cheap labour in the thord world is the most efficient way of raising the costs of that labour to the extent that it is comparable with local insudtry. The fact that tariffs still exist impede this natural flow and create the inefficiencies that lead to the continuing mis match of labour price.

### Re:Stay away from Wal-Mart (0)

#### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3474073)

Globalization is bad, mmm'kay. Companies = Evil. If it weren't for companies moving into third world countries, there wouldn't be any sweatshop jobs and thus everything would be better without those jobs, mm'kay. In fact, there would be no jobs period, but never mind that for a moment.

### Re:Stay away from Wal-Mart (3, Funny)

#### W. Justice Black (11445) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474109)

It is a well known fact that AMD Duron processors are made in a sweatshop in Maylasia.

Of course they are! You ever been in a bunny suit? No matter how cold the room is--you sweat, period. The human body just gets hot when surrounded on all sides by millimeter-thick plastic.

Even so, I hope this post was a joke. I saw it was modded funny...

### Re:Stay away from Wal-Mart (0)

#### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3474111)

"It is a well known fact that AMD Duron processors are made in a sweatshop in Maylasia." Uhh... I don't think you can make processors in sweatshops. That doesn't even make sense.

### Re:Stay away from Wal-Mart (1)

#### weis (460559) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474116)

That sigline is just too classic! And from the tone of the message, it couldn't be a joke. Evidently, Mensa doesn't test spelling....

### Revoke this MENSA membership... (2)

#### bje2 (533276) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474131)

It is a well known fact that AMD Duron processors are made in a sweatshop in Maylasia.
- i have never read anything about AMD making their processors in sweatshops...do you have any information to back that up? even if they are, does that mean we should stay away from all stores that sell AMD processors...jeez, i dunno where i'm gonna shop for electronics anymore...

A large portion of Wal-Mart's merchandise is produced in third-world countries under sweatshop conditions
- i dunno about your Wal-Mart, but in my Wal-Mart they sell tons of brand name merchandise...the same brand name merchandise that you can find in any mall, toy store, electronics store, etc...if you have a problem with the business practices of a particular brand of merchandise (e.g. Nike), then i suggest you protest their company in particular, rather then make a dangerous blanket statement like you did...

-if you were gonna slam Wal-Mart for anything, you could've slammed them from not hiring union workers (atleast i don't think they still do)...that would be a legitimate complaint (although, i don't have a problem with it)...that is one of the ways they keep their prices down, in fact...but instead, you came in with unsubstantiated claims about AMD, and a bunch of "evil" talk about Wal-Mart...nice try...

here's a link to the MENSA comment form [mensa.org] , i think we should send them a copy of your post, and protest your membership...

### Re:Stay away from Wal-Mart (5, Informative)

#### MrResistor (120588) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474162)

It is a well known fact that AMD Duron processors are made in a sweatshop in Maylasia.

Actually, it is a well known fact that the Duron is manufactured in AMD's Fab 25 in Austin, Texas. I'm sure the residents of Austin will be suprised to know that they are now citizens of "Maylasia". Or did you perhaps mean Malaysia?

But hey, smart folks like you have no need for verifiable facts, right? So much for that "no toleranse for stupidity" thing. I guess Mensa'll hand out a card to any retard willing to take their asinine brain teaser test...

Oh and, by the way, it's spelled "tolerance". You might want to fix that one of these days. But then again, since I already pointed that out to you several months ago, maybe you enjoy looking like an idiot?

### Microtel (-1)

#### Anonymous Cowrad (571322) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473972)

Hey, they're just starting out. We can look at all the errors of every computer manufacturer in their first models. The Altair 8088 and Apple 1 were both kits, requiring a great deal of know-how (especially then) and allowed for a large deal of Human error (This was in the days of shag carpetting). Microtel is going to have a large amount of future successes for freeing us from the evil tyrant of Microsoft! Thank you, Microtel for having the balls to stand up!

### "Financial Times of London" (0, Flamebait)

#### Nexus Seven (112882) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473973)

Hmm, you mean like the "Wall Street Journal of New York"?

I'm not aware of any other Financial Times publications. Certainly not with the distinction and eminence of the one that everyone knows. The Financial Times is published and printed throughout the world, as is the Wall Street Journal.

If articles like this continue to treat their readers as inward-looking morons, that's probably what they'll become.

### Re:"Financial Times of London" (0)

#### BenD963 (413130) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474158)

slashdot also said "Apple drops Mac OS 9." Have you ever heard of another OS 9, did you need the Mac in front of that?

### Bart on the Chalkboard... (4, Informative)

#### Vrallis (33290) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473974)

Matt made the message clear in more than just an interview. The last new episode that aired, in the opening scene where Bart is writing on the chalkboard, Bart was writing something along the lines of "A will never lie about being canceled again..."

Gotta love finding out like that!

Now, that said,

I WANT MY GOD DAMNED FUTURAMA BACK YOU BASTARDS!!!

### FUTURAMA SUCKED DONKEY D***!!! (-1, Flamebait)

#### lowell (66406) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474082)

You and the ten other loosers that watched Futurama should get together in your poorly made Star Wars Storm Trooper costumes and discuss how pissed off you are that they cancelled a fucking cartoon. Maybe if you hurry you can catch an episode of Sesame Street or something.

### Wrong again slashdot (concerning the simpsons) (0)

#### molrak (541582) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473987)

Why is slashdot always late on everything they 'report' on? According to this article [guardian.co.uk] , the Financial Times is standing by what was written in the article with Matt Groening, and that Mr. Groening indeed stated that he thought the series was winding down.

### keep the modem, lean on them for linux drivers (3, Insightful)

#### astrashe (7452) | more than 12 years ago | (#3473998)

Why not keep the modem, and lean on the manufacturer to come up with linux drivers?

Walmart is pretty big, and if they said that you need a linux driver if you wanted your modems sold at wal-mart, then companies would do it, regardless of the size of the linux market.

### Re:keep the modem, lean on them for linux drivers (0)

#### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3474057)

What about everyone who isnt running Linux but some other OS? Its a bit hypocritical to complain about MS promoting Win-modems, and then say everythings ok if they turn them into Lin-modems.

### Re:keep the modem, lean on them for linux drivers (1)

#### kkirk007 (304967) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474151)

First of all, maybe that's exactly what they did: said
'hey we need a linux-compatible modem, who's gonna give us the drivers?'
Then the first company to cough up some drivers got the contract.

as for the part about alternative OSes...if the drivers are open-source, then you can just translate them to whatever OS you want, right?

### Re:keep the modem, lean on them for linux drivers (2)

#### _Sprocket_ (42527) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474152)

What about everyone who isnt running Linux but some other OS?

You're not going to get rid of software modems. They're cheap. The best you can do is push for open source drivers (or publically published specs) and then adapt that code for the OS of your choice.

### Re:Usenet? (0)

#### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3474050)

Well, you thought wrong. And even if AOL didn't have news servers, one has a plain IP connection when dialled in. Using another NNTP server wouldn't be hard (and people would probably still want to sue AOL for carrying the evil bits).

Me Too!

--MonMotha

### Modem necessary to boot? (2, Insightful)

#### NanoGator (522640) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474002)

Hmm.. maybe I interpreted the caption wrong, but I don't see how a Winmodem 'effectively requires Windows to make the computer work correctly'.

a.) Isn't just about everybody going to want 10/100 Ethernet cards?

b.) Wouldn't a decent modem be dirt cheap or laying around the house anyway?

It's nice to point it out and all, but the way it was worded in the article kind of made it sound like it was some evil plot to make the machines run Windows. In reality, it was pretty benign.

### Re:Modem necessary to boot? (1)

#### mfos.org (471768) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474096)

a.) The majority of internet users use modems. However, a higher percentage of Linux users use ethernet than Windows, but you're still looking at a big cross section.

b.) Not really, hardware 56k modems are expensive. I spent $70 on mine. Good luck on getting one for less$50. I'm guessing Microtel will be using software modems that are well supported in Linux.

### modems are still important, Yup. (1)

#### timothy (36799) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474160)

When *I'm* paying for my own hotel (which is to say "motel"), I tend to go "cheap but with free local calls." Modem saves :)

Anyone within range of a CompUSA or a Fry's (which I know is not even everyone in the rarefied continental United States of America, but it's a fair number) can get one for a shade under $50 (at least, if store prices are consistent :)). Mine (sold under CompUSA brand, but identical physically as well as identically priced as the ones I saw at Fry's) was$49.95, is unobtrusive and small, and has been my primary connection to Slashdot for several months. :)

Online, you can find external ones on pricewatch for $30 *including* shipping (mostly of the Elsa variety, which to me is a neutral -- but they're hardware modems, and work with Linux); I know because I found these but was too impatient to save the$20.

(My modem is down the hall feeding bits to an SMC barricade, and I'm reading / writing wirelessly ... thanks, SMC)

According to the NF article, the Microtel rep specifically says *hardware* modem; you could still be right and he could be weaseling / lying, but I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt here.

timothy

### Re:Modem necessary to boot? (0)

#### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3474113)

a.) Isn't just about everybody going to want 10/100 Ethernet cards?

Yeah totally because I have ethernet to my house!!

Newsflash, those of us who can't get dsl or cable need a modem and we need one that works.

b.) Wouldn't a decent modem be dirt cheap or laying around the house anyway?

You also may not realize that when you're talking about a $400 dollar PC paying$80 dollars to replace a winmodem is a hell of a lot of money.

I hate LPB's :)

### Re:Modem necessary to boot? (4, Insightful)

#### jimmcq (88033) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474132)

a.) Isn't just about everybody going to want 10/100 Ethernet cards?
b.) Wouldn't a decent modem be dirt cheap or laying around the house anyway?

Those may be true about the average /. reader, but I seriously doubt they are true about the average Wal-Mart shopper.

### Seti@home \in SETI (1)

#### distributed.karma (566687) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474007)

SETI, or search for extraterrestrial intelligence, is a loosely defined family of many different experiments. Berkeley's Seti@Home is only one of these experiments, though arguably the most famous.

By the way, I'm using 'OS' on my 'Computer' to run 'SETI'. Geddit?

### Simpsons (2)

#### felipeal (177452) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474032)

that he does indeed has stories for years and years

Yeah, that's true, unfortunately. As they mentioned on that lame song on that lame 'yet another clips show' (aka Gump Roast) 2 Sundays ago:

Have no fears we've got stories for years

### Re:Simpsons (2)

#### felipeal (177452) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474076)

Here is the full lyric [google.com]

### Distinction between single person and a couple. (1)

#### ahaning (108463) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474035)

If this exceeds $400 (or$800 for a couple travelling together)

### Re:Wal-mart, umm ok.. (2, Funny)

#### NineNine (235196) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474135)

Well, although you're just barely literate, I agree. People who shop at Wal-Mart are gonna be, well, like you. Barely literate cretins who buy computers for porn and games. I don't think that most Linux kids could even stand the lights in Wal-Mart long enough to buy a computer.

### Re:Wal-mart, umm ok.. (1)

#### PoiBoy (525770) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474179)

Actually, I'm thinking about buying one of these PC's from Walmart, and I'm a very experienced Linux user. They are attractively priced for my needs, and I feel safer dealing with a large company rather than a mom-and-pop computer store with 3 employees.

### Mixed Feelings (2)

#### (void*) (113680) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474094)

I don't know, but I have very mixed feelings about Harlan Ellison suing AOL. He is the writer of his works, and his wishes should be respected. Unfortunately, going after AOL for usenet postings is like hitting out at the poor geek in the corner when one gets bullied.

I wish Mr Ellison would just realize the futility and injustice of doing what he is doing and fight his fine cause elsewhere.

### God, i'm Bored........ (-1, Offtopic)

#### perl_god (578135) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474106)

....Anybody wanna help me rape a penguin?

### Who is Harlan Ellison? (3)

#### Papineau (527159) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474142)

Can somebody enlighten me?
What is his copyrighted work for which he sued AOL?

### Is Walmart's PC a sell for Advanced Users? (3, Interesting)

#### ejaw5 (570071) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474149)

I think this product is targeted towards the advanced users out there, as much of the "mainstream" users would at least think twice before buying a PC, then have to install an OS. However, most of the people I know who install and configure their own operating systems (whether windows or linux) tend to want to build their own systems themselves. Personally, I never purchase manufactured computers because I want to make sure I get "top quality" components, such as a versitile/highly configurable motherboard (like asus, i'm not endorsing). Especially when you install Linux, it's good to know exactly the hardware specs, and the easiest way to do that is to put it all together yourself.

Despite this, I feel Walmart & Microtel are doing a good job at showing that Windows isnt the only way to compute. The Microtel SYSMAR506 - Athlon 1.4 [walmart.com] seems a good deal at around \$500 for budget consious families who want to expose technology affordably to their children or for geeks who need a computer fast and cheap. It would be nice if they included both Windows and Linux drivers, but i know that 1.) Just the fact that it includes windows drivers is a much better improvement than Compaq's "recovery cd" that doesn't have drivers, and 2.) a lot of hardware is automatically detected under Linux, so it may not be necessary

### Nobody reads articles... (5, Informative)

#### n6mod (17734) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474156)

...but you knew that.

If you actually read Ellison's original rant, he sued AOL because the infringing postings were "received as part of his subscription to AOL."

That's right kids, Ellison was connecting through AOL. The alleged infringer's ISP (Tehama County Online) rolled over immediately, and was thus spared inclusion in the lawsuit. AOL got sued because they carried the infringing bits to him at his request.

At worst, they failed to proactively remove the posts from their news spools.

### linux is dying (0)

#### Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3474164)

When /. discussions, which used to be highly informative, degenerate into namecalling, it's a sure sign that linux is dying.

### Never been in to Wal-Mart (0, Troll)

#### Com2Kid (142006) | more than 12 years ago | (#3474180)

Okay actualy I think I like ONCE stepped foot in one 10 or so years ago for maybe half a second, but shit; uh;

worlds largest corporation?

Within 5 or 6 miles of me there are 3 Safe-Ways (used to be 4, but two of them consolidated into one building), but I have no idea where in the hell a walmart would be found at (or what the hell they even stock, though from what I read apparently everything).

I honestly think that there are more K-marts in Seattle (okay actualy there are only three or four) then walmarts.

Who the hell goes to walmart anyways? Fuck, I don't even KNOW ANYBODY WHO HAS EVER BEEN INSIDE OF A WALMART . How f*cking huge am I supposed to believe that they are?

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