The Truth Revealed 494
usermilk writes "Now that the X-Files has finally ended, I recommend you all check out The X-Files Timeline. It has a list of all the episodes, chronologically, and what happened when. A very good utility in figuring out what the heck happened, and when." If it hasn't shown in your timezone yet, obviously, don't click through.
The ending, in a headline (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The ending, in a headline (Score:2)
Re:The ending, in a headline (Score:2, Funny)
Just what are you trying to say?
Re:The ending, in a headline (Score:3, Funny)
Who are the tennants (sic) of Christianity and how much rent are they paying?
Wow Right on Time (Score:4, Funny)
-Slashdot had an article about the end of the X-Files at EXACTLY 10:00PM
or
-I checked Slashdot for an article on the X-Files at EXACTLY 10:00PM
Re: (Score:2, Informative)
Re:I love my satellite dish (Score:2, Interesting)
- Thanks to CIHF, a Global affiliate in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, I saw the finale 3 hours before most people did...
:-)
Amateur.Cheers,
Satellite? Bah! (Score:2)
Just finished watching (Score:2)
Re:Just finished watching (Score:2)
Actually its June 2003. (Score:2)
Which claims, 2012 in MAYAN years but our calender it is 2003 June.
We use the gregorian calender.
A guy by the name of Zecharia Sitchen
This theory for the first time was backed up by evidence, in 1982 when planet X was discovered.
IF any of this WAS true, our government would never tell us anyhow.
So for now its still a rumor, myth, etc, wait until June 2003 (December 2012 on Mayan Calender)
Re:Actually its June 2003. (Score:2)
As you responded later on, you seem to be a bit familiar with the Timewave Zero concept conjectured by Terrance McKenna. His timewave reaches zero right around that date(gregorian time). The date does not equate to Mayan 2012, but rather the end and restart of the Mayan calendar (kind of like when your cars odometer resets to all zero's).
Supposedly something extremely 'novel' will happen on this date, possibly the convergence of everything in the universe into an Omega Point (much like a reverse Big Bang).
I don't dispute that 2012 in Mayan = 2003 June on our calendar...just that I think they were making reference to the end of the Mayan calendar. Aliens taking over the planet and genociding the human race could be considered quite a 'novel' event in our history.
- A non-productive mind is with absolutely zero balance. -AC
Re: December 22, 2012 (Score:2)
Re: December 22, 2012 (Score:2, Funny)
You really need to start taking a more active role in your gov..
According to all of the myths and theories (Score:2)
By the way this isnt from the Xfiles.
Aliens want earth and have taken over the government using the governments greed in an exchange Technology for freedom to abduct people.
The Aliens could easily plan down to the date they'd invade considering how much simplier we are than them its not like we can stop them.
The Myth claims the planet niburu enters our orbit in june 2003 (mayan calender 2012 december)
Niburu is (planetX) rumored to have alien life on it.
SO yeah it makes perfect sense to take over right when your planet enters the solar system.
2012 is actually 2003! (Score:2)
The myth uses the MAYAN calender not the gregorian calender.
2012 on the MAYAN calender is 2003 JUNE on the Gregorian calender which we follow.
This means its 2011 right now, and it makes perfect sense for Xfiles to end their series here considering the whole myth of aliens that all abductees and stories have claimed ENDS at 2003.
I mean what can they use for an ending after June 2003 that fits in with all the myths?
I admit Chris Carter did his research, he just screwed up on the year translation.
2012=2003 (Score:4, Interesting)
It all has to do with the mayan calender which translates to 2003 june.
Theres alot of uh, lets call them, myths dealing with what will happen.
The rapture, the planet niburu and aliens coming for the choosen people, all kinds of crazy stuff.
Anyone who wants to see where the idea for this episodes ending or the so called truth came from, type "niburu orion group"
or "niburu 2003" into google.
You'll see all kinds of stuff about aliens taking over our government, and an invasion during june 2003, you'll see the mayan calender used as evidence, abductees claims, so called government officials claims, etc
Its worth researching even if its just myths, theres still a 10 percent chance that it might actually be true.
Re:2012=2003 (Score:2)
Re:2012=2003 (Score:2)
looks like people arent sure.
ex-files? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:ex-files? (Score:2)
Mark Your Calendars (Score:4, Interesting)
So, anyone got plans for December 22, 2012?
Well, in all seriousness, now that it's all over - who's truth was out there? Did we learn anything new at all? Granted, I liked the extensive recap they gave us in the first hour. It refreshed my memory and got me caught up on a few things that I missed. The in the second hour we got a big chase and in the end nothing happened. What happened to Doggett and Reyes? Skinner? The rest of our players?
I guess what I'm getting at is: WHAT WAS THE POINT?!?
Re:Mark Your Calendars (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Mark Your Calendars (Score:2)
All of our tools [computers to chainsaws] and domesticated animals [from cows to cats] will attack us for the great wrongs we caused...
...no mention if we can reverse it, I'm almost certain the date is set in stone (literally and yes; we can't change it)
Supposedly this has already happened and is noted on the Mayan calenders. But there is a reason that date has been selected, I guess [sfmoma.org].
June 2003 (Score:2)
Unless you use the mayan calender instead of the gregorian and in that case the year is 2011
Dear Mr. Tolkien (Score:5, Insightful)
Dear Mr. Tolkien:
I just wanted to say that I think the way you ended THE LORD OF THE RINGS was crap. You didn't provide any closure. Instead of spending time with the hobbits clearing out the shire (come on, urban renwal in LoTR? give me a break) and lots of goodbyes, you SHOULD have shown me what happened to Tom Bombadil, he was an important part of the story, and you just left his story thread there unresolved.
You made a big deal out of the elves going to the west, but we never SAW it! We never found out what was there, or what Bilbo found when he got there, or what happened to the dwarves, or what happened to Merry and Pippin....
You betrayed your audience by not resolving every single plot thread you introduced in your book, and as a result, it is never going to be of value to anyone, ever, and will never go past its first printing.
Re:Dear Mr. Tolkien (Score:3, Interesting)
Here is a qote from Orson Scott Card that seems quite fitting;
"...if you're going to criticize me for not finishing the whole thing and tying it up in a bow for you, why, do us both a favor and write your own damn book, only have the decency to call it a romance instead of a history, because history's got no bows on it, only frayed ends of
ribbons and knots that can't be untied. It ain't a pretty package but then it's not your birthday that I know of, so I'm under no obligation to give you a gift."
I am sorry if you missed the irony of the point. I had not seen the series very much in probably 2 years and feel that things were placed together nicely. The point of the show isn't to find the end-all-be-all timeline of every little plot point, but to be able to turn off the TV at the end and say to yourself "that was a good story". If that happened, then the author did his job..if not, then pick up the remote and move onto something else.
Re:Mark Your Calendars (Score:3, Interesting)
Here's the scoop. The guys at Fox aren't dummies. They know what a salivating fan base the X-Files carries. The way to cash in here is to:
a) Take the next few months off and start (or continue) development on an end-all, be-all second X-Files movie, which will no doubt include more scenes of Scully and Mulder necking around spaceships. This will neatly tie up some of the loose ends left open by the series finale and give everyone warm, fuzzy feelings deep in their cockles.
b) Q3, 2011. Fox introduces a new series based on the X-Files' impending fictional doomsday featuring sexy, wise-cacking teens outwitting grodey, bug-eyed alien conspirators. But it'll have a story arc, so the geeks are forced to watch it all.
Just my vision of the future.
Re:Mark Your Calendars (Score:2)
I plan on running around town looking for Christmas presents.
Re:Mark Your Calendars (Score:3, Interesting)
http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/xfiles2.html [corona.bc.ca] has more information.
Re:Mark Your Calendars (Score:2)
It depends on how much money the next movie makes, I'd imagine.
Hope? (Score:3, Funny)
That's what I'm left with? Hope? WTF?
Yeah, hope that Chris Carter gets abducted himself.....and soon.
McK
what an amazing ending! (Score:5, Funny)
oh, wait...
timeline (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.themareks.com/xf/conspiracy.shtml [themareks.com]
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The series finale was pretty good. (Score:5, Insightful)
The first hour of the finale IMO was the weakest part. I was worried when Skinner was pulling past characters as witnesses for Mulder's trial that Carter did a lame character reunion finale. Thankfully, the show picked up in the latter half.
I did have some problems with the finale, however:
1. The reason behind Kurst's sudden aid was never explained. His sudden character reversal was unsettling to me.
2. I think they overdid the Smoking Man's demise. Sure, Carter probably had that shot of his face peeling away to the skull to appease all the fanboys who would claim he escaped death again. But the fanboys would say that anyway if Mulder shot him several times in the face then relieved himself on his dead body.
The ending seem to fit the feel of the show. The protagionists now know the truth, but a little bit more of the picture remains out there. I can definately see a movie revolving around the alien invasion comming from this finale.
Re:The series finale was pretty good. (Score:4, Insightful)
This finale is just all of the different characters focusing on one point. The male and female characters (Mulder/Dogget - Scully/Reyes) and the bosses (Skinner/Kerst) all coming together at the same point -- breaking Mulder out of prison.
There is no "explanation" for it. It's just an directorial attempt to bring all of the opposites from pre-Duchovny/post-Duchovny onto the same track so they can make some movies that start with all of the main characters on the same track.
(And, actually, I'm not an X-files fanboy. My wife is obsessed though, so I've had them shoved down my throat for years).
Re:The series finale was pretty good. (Score:2)
And as a nice touch, they escaped in a Ford Escape!!!!
good episode, bad ending (Score:5, Insightful)
It was still a good episode though. As a series finale it could have improved, but since they have already stated that a movie is coming out, this definitely is NOT the last chapter.
Re:good episode, bad ending (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm not sure he really switched - I think that the conspirators wanted Mulder to be killed while trying to escape from jail and not via a military trial, as that would be a much cleaner way to kill him when people go looking for him. ("Oh sure, the trial may have been unfair, but Mulder tried to run and was killed while escaping, so it really doesn't matter - stop looking into it.") After all, "they" knew where Mulder was anyway and it's not so much of a stretch to imagine that he would have been placed to try and get Mulder killed.
The other option is that he wanted Mulder out of the way, but not killed, and got cold feet after Mulder was sentenced to lethal injection.
But I dunno, I wasn't really paying too much attention to the episode, and may have missed some things (and may be completely off the wall since I never really watched the X-Files anyway).
Re:good episode, bad ending (Score:2, Insightful)
At first I thought this too, but I would have thought that Gibson - the boy who can read minds, would have read the Deputy Director's mind we he said "head north etc.". If he was lying or had a bad motivation for his advice, he would have been found out right then (actually I assumed they would'nt take his advice to head to Canada and when they actually turned south I thought for a moment that maybe Gibson had said or signalled something to Mulder - but that wasn't the case).
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Re:good episode, bad ending (Score:2, Funny)
Smoking man (Score:5, Informative)
Besides, he was looking cooler than ever, Anasazi-style.
2012 (Score:5, Funny)
Re:2012 (Score:2)
bring on the movies!!!! (Score:2)
I can't wait
i-95 (Score:2)
Besides that slight innacuracy,can anybody explain how Mulder is suddenly able to communcate with dead people now?
Seriously, I'm not very impressed by this finale. It was poorly written, and the trial scene was simply a cheap way out for the writers to explain "the big picture" without putting much effort into it.
Guess there are plenty of holes left for the next movie.
Re:i-95 (Score:2)
Dude, you take 95 south to 40 west. Either 95 or 81 (avoid the cities), but who would think of that?
(Actually, Mapquest says something about going west out of DC on 70. Who knew?)
Re:i-95 (Score:2, Insightful)
He wasn't really communicating with them, IMO. It was more like they were a physical manifestation of his doubts etc, telling him that the path he was on was no good. So basically, the Lone Gunmen were all in his head.
Re:i-95 (Score:2, Informative)
But it couldn't have been manifestations of his doubts, because they provided new, unknown information (a witness's address, for instance). So what the hell was with the communication with the dead?
lame (Score:4, Insightful)
The black oil came to earth on a meteorite. Fine, but how does that explain Roswell? The aliens crashed because of the magnetite? So the grays are the same as the super soldiers? That doesn't make sense. So we'll just ignore that...
So everyone in the galaxy except for humans and the renegades are infected with the black oil? Assuming that's true, how could selfdisfigurement keep the renegades from being infected, when they're made of the same green foam as the same as the alien bounty hunters?
And so what was The Big Truth? The Cigarette
Smoking Man teased us with revealing it, but
never did. Unless it was the invasion occurs
Dec 22, 2012. How is the Big Secret?
Last week's was far better.
Re:lame (Score:2)
Dec 22, 2012. How is the Big Secret?"
Ummm, yes, that is The Big Secret(tm). That the date for the invasion was real, set, and had been sety for thousands of years and that presumably nothing could be done about it.
Re:lame (Score:2, Insightful)
Then the writing became horribly literal and hamfistedly explicit, but there was no way to make daylight sense out of the dream logic, and the whole thing turned into a big pile of ca-ca.
For me, the best X files episodes were the ones that made the least sense and reveled in it, like Clive Bruckman, Jose Chung, and Hollywood AD (the nutty nutty nutty one with the Lazarus bowl and Gary Shandling and the dancing undead).
G
Re:lame (Score:2)
Defacement kept them from getting infected, just face the fact that the virus needs an orifice to enter the body...even pores in the skin, so basically the aliens closed all orifices, including skin pores. Do you want a science book or something?
[ Grammar corrected for reading simplification ]
So you're saying the Grays have no openings in their flesh? Wow, I'd think it easier to wear a snug transparent spacesuit than seal all of my bodily openings. That reminds me of a joke about a guy with a tight ass telling another fellow, "Just shut up!," when he had an inquiry about it. To which the reply was, "You are full of shit!," and the reply to that was a groaning, "I know."
The Lone Gunmen LIVE!!! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:The Lone Gunmen LIVE!!! (Score:2)
...from New York it's Saturday Night!
Oh wait, I read that wrong. Damn those homonyms.
Now I'm getting the vision of a Lone Gunmen show on Broadway with line dancing.
Re:The Lone Gunmen LIVE!!! (Score:2)
It sucked. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:It sucked. (Score:2, Interesting)
2)there was plenty unresolved for many movies to come.
Re:It sucked. (Score:2)
My guess is, the guy dies.
--Dan
Set Up for the Next Movie? (Score:2)
I thought that the whole thing was pretty hokey.
One of the judges was an alien, but what of it?
near the end, Skinner was called into his boss' office. So what?
As others have mentioned, the trial was a waste of time.
Muldur is left to continue seeking the truth. And they didn't even kiss!
The only place where there was any real closure was with the CSM. I guess that he's really dead this time.
But they left lot's of room for another movie. Hmm....
Revelation (Score:2)
X-Files was still on? (Score:2)
2012? (Score:2)
Although, come to think of it, his narrative fell apart at crunch time as well.
2012 (Score:2)
w00t! -- 2012 could be very exciting..
2012 MAYAN is 2003 Gregorian (Score:3, Informative)
But everything else you said is on target.
Niburu returns in 2003 June.
2012 / 2112 (Score:5, Funny)
Military Tribunals (Score:5, Interesting)
Not a coincidence that it maps closely to the current "fry 'em in the dark" policy instituted by Bush and company. Detention in secret, no contact with relatives or lawyers, disposition a secret as well -- hell, Mulder got better treatment at his "trial" than someone held under the current "emergency".
I think Chris Carter was trying to not so subtly draw attention to our new system of "alternative" justice.
Re: (Score:2)
Re:Military Tribunals (Score:4, Informative)
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Re:Military Tribunals (Score:2)
How have we handled it for the last 225 years? Is this a new problem requiring the suspension of the U.S. Constitution?
And that was not a reason given for the secret tribunals by Bush.
The damage is done when the suspect is taken off the street and disappeared. Do you not think that 1000+ people disappeared and no one noticed, especially the few (or none) that really are terrorists?
We seem to kidnap them. If we can disappear them from U.S. streets, I guarantee CIA cowboys are yanking people into vans all over the world.
Wow. In that case, we need to end this farce called a constitutional government. Anoint the Holy Bush, selected by God Himself (according to the right wing clergy), Dictator for Life, with the power of high and the low justice. At least for darkies. Dispense with the rule of the unwashed, uneducated masses, and we'll finally get things done!
Alleluyah!
Damn straight, fascist.
Wait a minute -- Wasn't this the Seinfeld finale? (Score:2, Funny)
The plot was pretty much the same as the Seinfeld series finale, right on down dragging assorted past characters into a trial that the star(s) can't possibly win.
I guess no Kramer was a clue.
But seriously, how much difference was their between Doggitt and the Soup Nazi?
Oh well, at least Mulder ended up better than Jerry: He gets to get personal with Scully, whereas the best Jerry could do was Elaine.
Unless, of course, he wanted to consider George.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Bad news, good news (Score:4, Funny)
Good news - If you're running linux on a 32 bit system you don't need to worry about the year 2038.
The truth was already revealed... (Score:2)
Here's [eeggs.com] some more info on it.
Once Again Duchovny Shuns Canada (Score:2, Interesting)
I found it ironic that Mulder once again shunned Canada (when he ignores the advice of Kerst to go North) -- although it's probably a bit of an inside joke by Chris Carter. The show's downturn is widely held as simultaneous to when production moved from Vancouver to Los Angeles. Talk about the thing "going south". Apropos for the final episode to follow the same pattern to it's ultimate conclusion.
Dec 21, 2012 - Day of Reckoning (Score:2)
Five words: Star Wars Holiday Special Rebroadcast [imdb.com]
all I can say is... (Score:2)
Not the only scifi ending (Score:2)
Re:Another episode (Score:2)
then its your own fault
Re:Another episode (Score:2)
Oh God forbid if you skip a discussion this time! Oh, the humanity!
Re:dumbasses (Score:2)
Re:dumbasses (Score:2)
Re:not a spoiler please read (Score:2)
Re:huh? (Score:4, Informative)
Check out this page at Coming Attractions [corona.bc.ca] for the latest details.
Interesting notes. (Score:2)
moster of the week, you mean like night stalker? [imdb.com]
a tv series I loved as a kid.
Of course XFiles has always been a night stalker clone.
Re:Please remember - no spoilers 'till it's played (Score:2, Redundant)
Re:Please remember - no spoilers 'till it's played (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Please remember - no spoilers 'till it's played (Score:2)
yeah, also there's this great new band. they're brand new, they're called KISS, and they rock!
Re:Yippy :-p (Score:2)
With such a good show, you cant meet the viewers expectations. Seinfeld didnt even try.
Re:More movies? (Score:2, Interesting)
Well, at least we know for sure that Fox and Dana knocked booties and had a love child.
Re:like the comic book guy said... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Thank you, ChrisD (Score:2)
Re:come now (Score:2)
subtract a day (Score:2, Informative)
the ancient maya, hindu and chinese calendars all stop counting on this date
Re:subtract a day (Score:2)
there is some descrepency on when 0.0.0.0.0.0 is, which means we don't know exactly when 13.0.0.0.0.0 is.
the is the maya 6th cycle. after the first cycle, the mayans said everybody on earth was eaten by a jaguar, secod cyscle every on was killed by air, then fire, and well I forget what killed everyone in the 3,4,5 cycles.
Now, the exact day isn't know, but I suspect some people haved "bumped" it so it will be on soliste. coincedently, the sun will be in a uniques place in our sky, but it happens every 25,000 years.AFAIK, it hasn't destroyed the universe yet.
Re:final....not (Score:2)
Re:I thought the finalé was good. (Score:2)
Re:Worst episode EVER. (spoilers) (Score:2)
I guess I'll get around to it, since I'm sure someone I know taped it. The last few seasons have gone downhill to the point where I lost interest in the whole show.
This series went from "the best thing on TV!" to completely lame. Personally, I think Chris Carter just started running out of ideas after the first 3 seasons. The things that made X-Files great started slipping away, and things weren't revealed because Carter himself wasn't even sure how he was going to explain some of it yet.
It used to be, every "mystery" ended up with a scientific explanation, or at least tied into the deep UFO conspiracy web somehow. When episodes started talking about astrology, psychics, devil worshippers, and so on - it fell into the abyss of B-rated horror films. I mean, anyone can create a show where people get eaten alive by some gruesome "half man, half monster". It's only really interesting if they come up with good reasons why the guy got that way. X-Files started failing to do this half the time. Episodes where these things tied into a complex, larger picture became scarce.
Re:The final episode (Score:2)
Carter has been working on several other projects, so it's not like X-Files is his only bread and butter. He could have been respected as one of the great sci-fi TV writers of all time if he had the common sense to bring X-Files to an exciting conclusion after it ran for 3 or 4 seasons.