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1st post :-) (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3557878)

I had to get it, propz to all logged in trolls :-)

Re:1st post :-) (-1)

DonkeyHote (521235) | more than 12 years ago | (#3557938)

I can grant you an exclusive interview with my COCK!
You fucking gaylord ass-fuckers. I hope your testicles rot off and your get sand fleas in your power puff girl panties. You bunch of silly lollgagging ass pirates! I'll make you walk the plank, you FUCKERS!

Logged in Troll Rule!, AC's Drool!

Re:1st post :-) (-1)

Yr0 (224662) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558004)

bugger, wAS asleep.

Haiku! (1)

Haiku_troll (580701) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558584)

Villanueva's bill
Would make the state use Linux
Hooray for Peru

Funniest geek joke evar! (-1)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 12 years ago | (#3557884)

Why can't Nerds tell Halloween from boxing day?


Because 31(hex) == 25(dec)!!!
LOL!

Re:Funniest geek joke evar! (-1)

egg troll (515396) | more than 12 years ago | (#3557923)

I thought the funniest geek joke was that Linux works on the desktop?

Re:Funniest geek joke evar! (-1, Offtopic)

hettb (569863) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558023)

No, this [stallman.org] is the funniest joke of all times, by RMS himself:

How the natives of the north got their name

When Europeans first visited the northern part of North America, they did not know how to survive there. The natives did. So they gave the Europeans advice:

  • It's pretty cold out there--better dress up warm!

  • Don't tease that polar bear, it might get angry.

  • If you want to make it to the next settlement, you should probably take more than one dog.

But the Europeans had no respect for the natives, and ignored their advice. So they kept on wearing insufficient clothing, teasing bears, and travelling with too few dogs. And sometimes they died.

When the natives heard, they said, "I knew it." Eventually they became known as the I-knew-it, or "Inuit".

INUIT! HAHAH!

L01OL0l10Lo0L!

You messed it up (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558080)

Why can't nerds tell Halloween from Christmas?

Becase 31 OCT = 25 DEC

"Hex" isn't a month, but OCTober is.

Re:You messed it up (1)

ComaVN (325750) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558135)

I think he meant to mess up :P

What I'm concerned about, is why you think the error is that Hex isn't a month: I'd say the math error is far worse for a nerd than messing up something as trivial as the identifiers for 0..11

Re:You messed it up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558432)

Yeah, but I didn't catch that error until I read through it a second time. =( I'm slacking, I know.

I did, however, post that correction just after my first. =D

Re:Funniest geek joke evar! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558109)

And, to further supplement my correction of your screwup, 31 in base 16 does not equal 25 in base ten, but 31 in base 8 does.

You really, really need to check over your jokes. Copy it correctly next time, and you will get upvoted by me!

Re:Funniest geek joke evar! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558641)

I don't need to check my jokes. I can copy and paste them right:

A professor at the University of Mississippi is giving a
lecture on the supernatural. To get a feel for his
audience, he asks: "How many people here believe in
ghostses?" About 90 students raise their hands.

"Well, that's a good start. Out of those of you who
believe in ghostses, do any of you think you've ever seen
a ghostse?" About 40 students raise their hands.

"That's really good. Has anyone here ever talked to a
ghostse?" 15 students raise their hands.

"That's great. Has anyone here ever touched a ghostse?" 3
students raise their hands.

"That's fantastic. But let me ask you one question
further... Have any of you ever made love to a ghostse?"
One student way in the back raises his hand.

The professor is astonished and says, "Son, all the
years I've been giving this lecture, no one has ever
claimed to have slept with a ghostse. You've got to come
up here and tell us about your experience."

The redneck student replies with a nod and a grin, and
begins to make his way up to the podium. The professor
says, "Well, tell us what it's like to have sex with
ghostse."

The student replies, "Ghostse?!? From ah-way back there ah
thought yuh said "goatse."

Tragedy averted! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3557889)

The Congressman is getting more and more caught up with the open source and free software movements as time goes by. Villanueva was once invited to an event in Columbia where he was to meet with the Free Software Foundation's Richard Stallman, and to his great disappointment this event had to be cancelled.
Whew!

correction (-1)

tps12 (105590) | more than 12 years ago | (#3557890)

Should be "Dr. Nuñez" in headline.

Re:correction (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3557954)

Need to check your understanding of Spanish surnames. Article is correct.

Gotta love this guy. (3, Funny)

Limburgher (523006) | more than 12 years ago | (#3557899)

Any chance he'd be willing to run for President in the U.S. in 04?

Re:Gotta love this guy. (0)

cmdr_beeftaco (562067) | more than 12 years ago | (#3557932)

I am pretty sure you need at least a green card to be president...

Re:Gotta love this guy. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3557969)

No can do. Please know your US Constitution. To be President, you have to be at least 35 years old and a *natutal born citizen*. Short of a new amendment, even naturalized citizens cannot be elected President of the US.. all other elected positions (Gov, Senator, Congressman/woman, etc.) are open though.

Re:Gotta love this guy. (1)

zimbu (99236) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558156)

To be President, you have to be at least 35 years old and a *natutal born citizen*.

Unless of course you were a citizen of the United States at the time the constitution was adopted.

Re:Gotta love this guy. (2)

mobydobius (237311) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558513)

I'd be willing to change the constitution to get this guy...Wouldn't you? (-:

Re:Gotta love this guy. (1)

Zathrus (232140) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558666)

All of the early presidents were born in America, so they were natural born citizens (c.f. - http://www.ipl.org/ref/POTUS/ [ipl.org] ).

I don't know if there was ever any debate about someone born on foreign soil trying to become president in the first 50 years or so, but I suspect that "natural born citizen" would have ruled them out.

Yes, I know this is offtopic.

Re:Gotta love this guy. (0, Offtopic)

ComaVN (325750) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558240)

To be President, you have to be at least 35 years old and a *natutal born citizen*.

So, there's no danger that clones of dubya will rule the USA for the rest of eternity. Guess we're lucky after all.

Re:Gotta love this guy. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558336)

Gosh, no. Whew!

Re:Gotta love this guy. (4, Funny)

cmdr_beeftaco (562067) | more than 12 years ago | (#3557964)

Maybe he could get an H1-B visa. It seems likely that there no US citizens that have the skills needed to be Commander-In-Chief.

You DO have options, you know (2, Insightful)

wrinkledshirt (228541) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558693)

If you're so desperate to throw a vote to some foreign guy based on only one of his stances, you might want to look up politicians who have similar agendas at home, like Ralph Nader. He has been keeping up with the issue. [cptech.org]

Microsoft will never learn (0, Offtopic)

Black Aardvark House (541204) | more than 12 years ago | (#3557920)

The "subsciption model" for software just won't work. There will be a lot of resistance to move from a "buy once" model to a scheme where licenses must be periodically renewed, or a "pay per use" model.

Microsoft is just trying to extract the extra buck from consumers, which is natural for most corporations. But when your software costs hundreds per copy, people will resist.

This guy rocks. Too bad he's not an American (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3557921)

politician. Oh wait he wouldn't have been elected. We need George Walker to tell us who to vote for.

Everytime I see a non planned speech by GW I feel like I'm watching an episode of the Osbournes. Sad really.

Re:This guy rocks. Too bad he's not an American (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558012)

the sad thing is that you watch the osburnes, you representthe mtv watching soundbite culture that the politicians like GW feed off of. read a book.

lol, the osbournes is entertainment, the pres is.. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558225)

just sad. He is entertainment and shouldn't be. For christs sake he can't even say terrorists!

Re:This guy rocks. Too bad he's not an American (-1, Offtopic)

neocon (580579) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558456)

Luckily, ~ 0.76 * 285,000,000 Americans disagree with you. :-)

Sometimes, when I go to bed, I have a nightmare that September 11 and the events thereafter are being handled by a cabinet with William Cohen instead of Donald Rumsfeld, Madeleine Albright instead of Colin Powell, and Sandy Berger instead of Condi Rice. I usually wake up screaming. :-)

Re: He IS an american (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558538)

Last time I checked, Peru was in America.

Not really. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558540)

I catch the most disturbing Bush sayings simply watching CSPAN. Not sound bytes. And in case you missed it Bush only won the electorate not the popular vote. Pathetic really. I'm surprised you didn't try to blame the terrorist attacks on Clinton. Besides 7 years of growth and prosperity is enough for any nation. We had to get back to fucking the poor for the benefit of the rich. BTW I probably pay more in taxes than you make a year and have no problem with social problems. That is because I'm not a hypocrite about say one thing and do another like the Christian Right.
Saying: "Help thy neighbor"
Reality: Give the rich a unnecessary tax cut so the VP won't have to pay as much in taxes after he leaves office for another "pay back of favors" job. Cut social programs because they are just lazy.

It's easy to be Republican when your on your high horse. I sure hope you never need any of those social programs (medicare, medicaid, social security...) because everyone knows social programs are evil and just promote laziness. God forbid helping someone in need. Maybe your grandparents or parents should give up their social security checks and medicare benefits. Oh yeah, that's right noone is for social programs until they need help.

Re:Not really. (0, Offtopic)

neocon (580579) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558676)

Well, I'd like to speak to a few points here:

Bush only won the electorate not the popular vote. -- which is a fancy way of saying `I think the (rich, generally left-leaning) large coastal states should get to decide who the new president is single handedly'. Our founding fathers felt differently, and thus established the electoral college to ensure that a candidate would need a broad base of support and not just the popular vote to become president.

Give the rich a unnecessary tax cut -- we probably don't have time to go into the economics of why cutting taxes creates more jobs, and thus helps people at all levels of society, but I would like to point out that far from being solely a Republican idea, this fact was well recognized by JFK, who pushed his tax-cut in very similar terms to the current round of cuts. As to `for the rich', I suggest you look at the economics of these cuts -- almost all were in areas like the estate tax and middle-income-brackets which the rich don't pay anyway, but which middle class businessmen shoulder the burden of.

As to helping people in need, well we've all seen how the Republican welfare reforms of 1996, which I give Clinton credit for signing, have resulted in more improvement in the number of people getting off welfare and into work than any of the programs of the previous 30 years. Of course, you'll have to decide for yourself whether when you say `help people' you mean `keep them on welfare' or `help them get a job and return to society.' I see the latter as much more helpful.

Have you ever taken a course on Economics? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558795)

I have a B.A. in economics and finance. Read up on Public Finance and derived benefit from public goods. Then come talk. Typical Republican bullshit following: "Tax cuts help the poor". Hate to tell you this but my father makes around 900k to 1200k per year and all he does is spend the same amount he would if he made 100k per year. So that is not helping job growth. He invests in companies (mutual funds) and bonds. So you are trying to tell me there is a direct relationship between his 500k divided by 1000 (assuming he's that diversified) and the new hires at IBM? Not at all. Reinvesting in already issued stock does nothing for "jobs" as you say it gives a slight upward push to the stock price. However, since it is in such small portions (spread out evenly) there is no growth as you call it.

The way to help is to bring those needing help to the level of those not. Believe it or not most people do not want to be on welfare. However the few abusers get all the publicity.

A perfect example is the state I live in. Most people are Republican because they cannot see the simple fact that we are a subsidized by the federal government. We pay in about 1/4 the benefit we receive. This is of course of no concern to the people who are receiving this federal gift.

Everyone wants something for nothing. Just have the balls to live up to what you believe. I believe giving people a helping hand is good. I believe medical care for all is good. I believe greed is a dead end way to live. I am a socialist however. Bet you thought I was a democrat. lol.

Re:Not really. (2)

xtremex (130532) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558771)

I am not a republican, but I AM conservative. Similar, but very different. I am a proponenet of patriotism. American Citizens first. Anti-GLOBALIST companies. Anything that goes against the true meaning of America. I've always said a liberal is a person who's never been robbed :) Democrats should support the Green party (nader) and republicans should support Buchanan.

Beautiful (5, Interesting)

inkfox (580440) | more than 12 years ago | (#3557922)

Perú's youth continue to approach Villanueva, offering to march in support of the Bill: "It is the youth that needs to drive its creativity, its intelligence, its intellect ... there are many young people that can create their own employment through [the use] of free software."
Beautiful. "there are many young people that can create their own employment" thanks to free software.

When you hear people complaining that free (as in beer) software is going to cost programmers jobs or cut their salary, or that free software will send us into an economic tailspin, remember this: Both free (as in speech) and free (as in beer) software are making technological revolutions possible in places where it just couldn't happen otherwise. And you can bet that we're going to see good stuff (more software!) starting to flow back the other way.

Re:Beautiful (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558071)

i am pretty sure the only reason this guy posted is because he likes to say "free (as in beer)"

Re:Beautiful (2, Interesting)

inkfox (580440) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558160)

i am pretty sure the only reason this guy posted is because he likes to say "free (as in beer)"
You got me. I am all about free beer. :)

Actually, I wish there were a better term to differentiate between the two. "Free open source" versus "public domain open source" versus "public domain" versus... gah. "Free software" may have been an unfortunate choice of wording, but we'd need something like a permissions mask to cover all the possibilities:

"Oh, frobjazzer is 754." "So the author can do anything, friends can edit and redistribute, but strangers can only redistribute?" "No, that'd be a 732 license. Bit 2 is reselling." "Oh! So MS would be 711?" "No - MS is 700, and requires a hard drive that won't let you chown..." "Oh ho..."

It's the return software that I'm worried about (-1)

DonkeyHote (521235) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558096)

Remeber what those naughty russians did once they got thier grubby communist hands on computers? They sent us nuggets of joy like "Kletz" and "CodeRed", and who can forget the most well known known of all the "Morris" worm. Those bloody communists! Give them free software and they'll send us more then we bargained for!

Re:It's the return software that I'm worried about (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558458)

You pussy.

BREAKING NEWS (1, Offtopic)

phunhippy (86447) | more than 12 years ago | (#3557931)

Today it was announced Stallman is boycotting linuxtoday.com until it changes its name to the "correct" gnulinuxtoday.com and now recoomends everyone use Windows in protest until this change is made across the GNU/Linux world!

Lets write him in (3, Funny)

techstar25 (556988) | more than 12 years ago | (#3557960)

If every Slashdot reader wrote him in on the ballot, he would end up with more votes than Ross Perot.

Re:Lets write him in (2, Funny)

cmdr_beeftaco (562067) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558040)

Are you kidding, the way Slashdot readers spell he would be lucky to get a single vote. Earlier post couldn't even figure out his last name...

Re:Let's write him in (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558503)

Unlikely. SlashDot readers don't vote because voting is for losers. They prefer to play fascist video games on their computers.

Fantasy Island! (-1)

egg troll (515396) | more than 12 years ago | (#3557961)

Wasn't Dr. Villanueva the little midget who ran up shouting "De plane! De plane!" on Fantasy Island? I loved his work, but I thought he shot himself several years ago. Glad to hear that was just a rumor.

Ah yes (1)

NiftyNews (537829) | more than 12 years ago | (#3557977)

Oh yes, the Peruvian Congressman's letter, how could I forget?

It reminded me a lot of that recent Mexican treatice on excellent no-background slashdot subject descriptions.

Mississippi Ghostse (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3557997)

A professor at the University of Mississippi is giving a
lecture on the supernatural. To get a feel for his
audience, he asks: "How many people here believe in
ghostses?" About 90 students raise their hands.

"Well, that's a good start. Out of those of you who
believe in ghostses, do any of you think you've ever seen
a ghostse?" About 40 students raise their hands.

"That's really good. Has anyone here ever talked to a
ghostse?" 15 students raise their hands.

"That's great. Has anyone here ever touched a ghostse?" 3
students raise their hands.

"That's fantastic. But let me ask you one question
further... Have any of you ever made love to a ghostse?"
One student way in the back raises his hand.

The professor is astonished and says, "Son, all the
years I've been giving this lecture, no one has ever
claimed to have slept with a ghostse. You've got to come
up here and tell us about your experience."

The redneck student replies with a nod and a grin, and
begins to make his way up to the podium. The professor
says, "Well, tell us what it's like to have sex with
ghostse."

The student replies, "Ghostse?!? From ah-way back there ah
thought yuh said "goatse."

Maddog? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558007)

Does he know Maddog Hall?

Considering Microsoft's Position on their own OS (3, Interesting)

Domasi (318366) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558008)

I think this recent post [slashdot.org] would reasure not only Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez position but the rest of the Open Source advocates that a secure OS is needed. Would you install a OS when it's creators tell you it is not secure?

Re:Considering Microsoft's Position on their own O (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558065)

How did i know this was coming..oh i knew it and called it first here!

I can see this security comment happen over and over again...sigh..

Re:Considering Microsoft's Position on their own O (2, Insightful)

ccady (569355) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558129)

> Would you install a OS when it's creators tell you it is not secure? It is precisely *because* people are willing to accept that Linux (and no software) is totally secure, that I use it. Would you install an OS when it's creators tell you it IS secure, but they keep releasing "critical updates"?

if you blame RMS on the topic below... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558044)

... then don't forget to blame this guy too.

I'm moving to Peru (0)

sofist (556213) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558069)

when we get the EU DMCA... It has nice climate, nice pepole and nice laws... special dose about OS

Re:I'm moving to Peru (2)

robinjo (15698) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558442)

Peru is far from a paradise, I'm afraid:

Kidnappings, murders, armed robberies, and drug-related crime remain serious problems, especially in Lima. Corruption is deep-seated in the police and security forces. Despite the near-destruction of the left-wing Sendero Luminoso guerrillas, main cities frequently have curfews and those who can afford it protect themselves with high-security homes and armed guards.

Re:I'm moving to Peru (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558463)

and a bullet in your head gringo

Peru is a third world country!!! (1)

xtremex (130532) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558800)

Just move to any US inner city. You'll feel right at home.

The Bill (1)

oever (233119) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558078)

Is the text of the Bill proposed by Dr. Villanueva available on-line in English?
I'd like to see their definition of free software.

Re:The Bill (3, Interesting)

TrixX (187353) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558512)

Try here. [grulic.org.ar] .

Actually, this is the text of a bill proposed in Argentina, but it is almost identical (to the point of s/Argentina/Peru/g). The free software deffinition used in both is the same.

Re:The Bill (2, Informative)

oever (233119) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558626)

e) Free program (software) is any which use gives the user, without an additional price, the following rights:
d.1) unrestricted execution of the program for any purpose.
d.2) unrestricted access to its source code
d.3) exhaustive inspection of all internal operating mechanisms of the program.
...


Very good: patents are not allowed for government software!
But, hmm, hat does rule d.3 mean?

This is also interesting:
g) Open data format is any digital information coding method that meets the following conditions:
g.1) its complete technical documentation is publicly available.
g.2) the source code for at least one complete reference implementation is publicly available.
g.3) there are no restrictions for writing programs that store, transmit, receive or access data codified this way.


So a standard is not an open format until there is an open source implementation. This means a lot of the stuff by w3.org is not an open format!

Minor pedantic point on Nez's name (2, Insightful)

Kiwi (5214) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558089)

Minor pedantic point: His second last name is Núñez, not Nuñez.

More important point: I am glad he wrote the letter; I can now explain to all my friends in México why Linux is important by having them read the original Spanish version of his letter.

- Sam

You say Nez, I say the best I can (2)

Bastian (66383) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558448)

'cos I'll be jiggered if I can figure out how to get any international characters out of my Linux box w/ a US 101-key.

Interesting background, little interview (4, Insightful)

Jeppe Salvesen (101622) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558102)

While the background information on the writing process of his now famous letter is intriguing, as well as the fact that this guy is a lawyes who has been with the OSS crowd for 6 years, I would have liked more eloquence directly from the horses mouth.


What intrigues me about the entire software industry, is that they charge relatively different prices around the work. In Europe, a copy of XP is maybe 1 week of average pay. In inner Africa, a copy of XP runs well into the months. Asking companies there to pay full price is plain ridiculous. When I'm rich and famous at 35, I'll go to Africa to teach them how to unleash the then awe-inspiring power of the Penguin. Hopefully, I'll be many years too late.

Re:Interesting background, little interview (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558202)

can the penguin build a roof over their head? does the red hat distro install running water? i am sure your time could be better spent. the answer to africa's problems is not a beuwolf cluster of linux server so they help out with seti proejct...

It can help (2)

theolein (316044) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558697)

It will not solve the problems you talk of but consider this:

Having access to the internet enables those people to exchange information, a process invaluable in terms of solving problems and sharing experiences.

It enables people to find cheaper practical ideas to the problems of getting clean water, roofing, medical aid etc which they might not have known about earlier.

It enables people to gather and process statistics, one of the oldest computing tasks, which is invaluble in helping them to see their problems as a whole.

It helps them to learn, and enables them to get access to learning materials which they possibly could not otherwise do.

Re:Interesting background, little interview (1)

BritInParis (569522) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558808)

read about the hole in the wall: http://www.niitholeinthewall.com/kiosk.htm http://www.greenstar.org/butterflies/Hole-in-the-W all.htm

Interview? (4, Insightful)

rot26 (240034) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558111)

I didn't see an interview.

PERU 0WNZ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558117)

It's amusing that the US thinks of themselves and Europe as the only foward areas of the globe.

Look at Peru. Though a little fascist, look at Brasil. Wonderful places, forward thinking. Let's hope the US doesn't bomb the fuck out of them for MIcrosoft.

Re:PERU 0WNZ (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558154)

too bad a wheelbarrow filled with last week's pay is worthless before you get to the store.
but when you roll in with greenbacks i am sure its a wonderful place, i hear the blow is super cheap.

Re:PERU 0WNZ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558213)

from the post:
too bad a wheelbarrow filled with last week's pay is worthless

This is what white Christains tell each other to prop up their own esteem. While the blow is cheap, pretty clean too, the wheelbarrow analogy is ridiculous. Argentina, maybe. Not Peru. Even in post WWII Germany, where it is used extensively, the wheelbarrow analogy off base.

So much depends on the red wheelbarrow, beside the chickens, glazed with blow.

Raise the Mayans (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558155)

Raise the Roof!

Mayans! Mayans! Mayans! Mayans! Mayans!

We love Peru!

Idioteque (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558188)

Idiot: Peru was Incan. The Mayan civilization was in Mexico/Central America.

Maybe they should hold you back in 8th grade.

Re:Idioteque (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558245)

i thought that peru was in mexico. it doesn't matter they all crawl over the border the same way.
i don't know about you but in 8th grade they taught me important stuff like how to spel and talk right.

Mississippi Ghostse (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558280)

I also learned how to "spel" in 8th grade... or maybe it was 2nd, I don't really remember anymore. I also learned how to tell good jokes:

A professor at the University of Mississippi is giving a
lecture on the supernatural. To get a feel for his
audience, he asks: "How many people here believe in
ghostses?" About 90 students raise their hands.

"Well, that's a good start. Out of those of you who
believe in ghostses, do any of you think you've ever seen
a ghostse?" About 40 students raise their hands.

"That's really good. Has anyone here ever talked to a
ghostse?" 15 students raise their hands.

"That's great. Has anyone here ever touched a ghostse?" 3
students raise their hands.

"That's fantastic. But let me ask you one question
further... Have any of you ever made love to a ghostse?"
One student way in the back raises his hand.

The professor is astonished and says, "Son, all the
years I've been giving this lecture, no one has ever
claimed to have slept with a ghostse. You've got to come
up here and tell us about your experience."

The redneck student replies with a nod and a grin, and
begins to make his way up to the podium. The professor
says, "Well, tell us what it's like to have sex with
ghostse."

The student replies, "Ghostse?!? From ah-way back there ah
thought yuh said "goatse."

You've been taken in (-1, Troll)

PhysicsGenius (565228) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558179)

This article is a joke. "Dr Villanueva" is the giveaway. Villa = town, nueva = new. Newtown. Dr Newton. Get it?

Why I don't like Villanueva (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558205)

Maybe I'm naturally oversensitive, or maybe someone just slipped me decaf coffee this morning, but Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez's cronies have an inadequate grasp of acceptable scientific method and data interpretation. I would like to start by discussing Villanueva Nuñez's invectives, mainly because they scare me. The thing I'm the most frightened about is that gnosticism appears to have triumphed. More often than not, I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke him to smear people of impeccable character and reputation. As it turns out, just because you can do something does not mean it's okay to do it. Whatever happened to community standards?
Like I said, Villanueva Nuñez would have us believe that human life is expendable. That, of course, is nonsense, total nonsense. But Villanueva Nuñez is surrounded by irritating raucous pettifoggers who parrot the same nonsense, which is why his detractors are correct in their observation that the conflation of reckless psychics and saturnine self-deceiving purveyors of malice and hatred in his rejoinders is either dramatic hyperbole or a fatal methodological flaw. His prophecies are not the solution to our problem. They are the problem. Some day, I want to improve the living conditions of the most vulnerable in our society -- the sick, the old, the disabled, the unemployed, and our youth -- all of whose lives are made miserable by Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez.

But you don't have to wait for that. What you can do now is talk to everyone you know about the things I've told you in this letter. Use every medium available to you. Use the Internet. Use your telephone. Use radio and newspapers. And whatever you do, never be afraid to speak out against the evil that is Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez.

Re:Why I don't like Villanueva (1)

tomdarch (225937) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558369)

While this AC uses florid, if correct, English, (s)he speaks as though (s)he is Peruvian. Is this correct? Perhaps AC hasn't read the Congressman's letter? If AC is referring to the same Dr. Villanueva, would AC like to cite specifics, and perhaps links to news stories that explain his/her seemingly bizzare comments? Who, specifically, are the persons of "impeccable character" who were "smear[ed]" by his comments? I missed the "invectives," and the "gnosticism." Is it a "conflation of reckless psychics" to say that a nation state should not trust a 'black box' system for national security? Particularly if the 'black box' is produced by a massive, foreign corporation with a track record of criminal behavior and negligence with regards to security? Perhaps AC would like to explain the reference to "the most vulnerable in our society"? I think that it is far more likely that AC is an employee or stockholder of MS than Michael Moore.

Re:Why I don't like Villanueva (1)

bhv (178640) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558421)

Lets see......posted as AC....hummmm! Either M$ employee or M$ investor. I recommend you dump your M$ interests and get over it.

I like Villanueva (2)

theolein (316044) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558637)

If you are oversensitive, then it's because you obviously have some sort of vested interest in posting difamatory material as you do. I won't say you work for Microsoft but I will ask you where on earth you get your claim that Villanueva doesn't value human life and believes it to be expendable? I will also ask you on what you base your claim that he is spreading hatred and malice when it seems that that is more what you are doing? In addition to this I would ask you on what you base your claim that he is making the lives of the sick, old, disabled and unemployed miserable, since, judging from everything I've read about this man and looking at his origions and his work in improving the computing access in a region with extremely limited financial means, this is exactly the opposite of what he is trying to do.

Finally, i would ask you who you are?

Thank-you (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558768)

This is one of the most insightful and compelling riposte to the slanderous and erroneous letter from our good doctor.
I for one a firm believer in community standards, it is the underpinning for the entire open source movement. The integrity of the entire system is at stake and allowing Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez the opportunity to denigrate what we as a whole have worked so assiduously to achieve saddens me greately. The course that we are advocating disheartens my perception of the open source movement.
Any discussing on the events surronding Dr. Villanueva Nuñez must focus on the question of who guards the guardian themselves. And not on advancing our cause on the shoulders of the repressed.
Peace and wisdom be with you.

Peruvian Facts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558219)

from the CIA World Factbook

Ancient Peru was the seat of several prominent Andean civilizations, most notably that of the Incas whose empire was captured by the Spanish conquistadores in 1533. Peruvian independence was declared in 1821, and remaining Spanish forces defeated in 1824. After a dozen years of military rule, Peru returned to democratic leadership in 1980, but experienced economic problems and the growth of a violent insurgency. President Alberto FUJIMORI's election in 1990 ushered in a decade that saw a dramatic turnaround in the economy and significant progress in curtailing guerrilla activity. Nevertheless, the president's increasing reliance on authoritarian measures and an economic slump in the late 1990s generated mounting dissatisfaction with his regime. FUJIMORI won reelection to a third term in the spring of 2000, but international pressure and corruption scandals caused him to resign in November of that year. A caretaker government oversaw new elections in the spring of 2001, which ushered in Alejandro TOLEDO as the new head of government.

Priority for Peru OSS support (3, Insightful)

originalhack (142366) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558223)

Since most of us don't vote in Peru, all of us in the OSS community should pay special attention to any requests for tech assistance from Peruvian sources.

Spread the word.

Free (as in beer).... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558224)

I don't know about open-source Spanish people, but your mom's pussy is free (as in beer) for everyone.

[This post brought to you by the Troll under the sink]

Little steps at a time .... (1)

forged (206127) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558243)

From the article's links:
  • http://www.congreso.gob.pe/organizacion/comisiones . asp

Let's hope that some day they will get rid of the .asp bit, and implement PHP instead ! :)

Re:Little steps at a time .... (1)

cmdr_beeftaco (562067) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558373)

php translated into spanish is actually asp.
it is also worth noting that "open source software" translated from spanish means literally "the expensive stuff mr.gates sells"
not sure what all the fuss is about...

Stallman won't meet with him until... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558251)

... they change the name of the country to GNU/Peru (or PerGNU).

all documents (2, Informative)

direwolf puppy (243414) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558263)

More coverage on this entire topic here [pimientolinux.com]

I read the letter again, and it doesn't lose any (1)

lww (323019) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558267)

of it's original bang. Seriously, I hope someday we can look back on this as a defining moment in the history of the open source movement... wouldn't that be cool? Even cooler, to be able to tell your grandkids, "Yep, I was there and here's what I did..."

Okay, and at the risk of offending any tender PC sensitivities out there (whoops, this is /. never mind), every time I read the letter I get the urge to shout "Viva la revolucion!" ;)

The Internet is so cool (4, Insightful)

sam_handelman (519767) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558314)

This is all a real blow to my cynicism.

People say "the internet will change the way the world works!" and I say "yeah, right", because people who say that sort of thing (often involving the non-word "paradigm") don't even know what a packet is. "It's shifted the whole paradigm for the sex movie industry", I say derisively.

Well, this, and by this I mean the whole imbroglio where Dr. Villanueva is now the cause celebre of the open source movement, could never have happened without all that international packet switching, and the culture that has grown up around it, and this is very significant.

This isn't a fake economic event - like stock quotes. This isn't a manufactured cultural event with no social or political relevance - like the pop music we're swapping. This isn't the sophistry of most modern political news which is nothing more than the latest lies to promote your own self interest.

This is real and genuine and the internet has made it possible.

Re:The Internet is so cool (2)

Elbereth (58257) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558588)

The internet didn't make it possible. This is simple file swapping, information sharing, and press releases.

The printing press, telegraph, telephone, radio, and organized mail delivery caused revolutionary changes. The internet is just incremental or even incidental, except in very few circumstances. This is not really one of them.

You haven't become cynical enough. Maybe in another five years or so. True cynicism knows no bounds.

BTW, watch out for nihilism. It sneaks up on you once you've become truly cynical.

Write YOUR elected reps -- now! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3558319)

When this story broke. A lot of people made comments like: ' I wish we had government officials who were as clueful.' I took that as a clue to write to my elected reps and fill them in on the scoop and also mandate that free software be used over proprietary here in the U.S. You should consider doing the same. Let us make our reps accountable for the IT infrastructure used to do governement business.

Correct me if im wrong... (1)

lyberth (319170) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558399)

Its been a long while, so it might not be so, but isn't Villanueva Pippi Longstockings house?

When you wish upon a star.......... (1)

Ride-My-Rocket (96935) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558419)

I wish this guy was an element in the US government. Instead, we're stuck with Fritz "Freling" Hollings' caricature of how technology can / should be used to serve his supposed constituents. Which is laughable at best, since it seems to be more focused on eviscerating digital rights /privacy and handing them out to corporations wholesale.

Good to see digital democracy is alive and well in Peru. Sorry I can't say the same about things back home, though........

Merely "very impressed"? (2, Insightful)

tomdarch (225937) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558420)

The Doctor's letter is more than impressive. His point by point rebuttal of Microsoft's falacies was both thorough and consise. He clearly called out the internal contradictions that are so common in Microsoft's arguments. I was stunned by how well he made his points. For anyone who hasn't read it, regardless of your position on the issue, you should.

FSF mtg. cancelled (5, Funny)

slow_flight (518010) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558435)

Villanueva was once invited to an event in Columbia where he was to meet with the Free Software Foundation's Richard Stallman, and to his great disappointment this event had to be cancelled.

They refused to re-name the country GNU/Columbia.

Re:FSF mtg. cancelled (2)

tommck (69750) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558583)

Since I can not currently moderate, I must say "Bravo!". This gave me a nice hardy laugh.

To those who can moderate (and have a sense of humor), please mod this up! (the parent post)

T

Slashdot Interview (5, Interesting)

Johnny Mnemonic (176043) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558440)


How about a Slashdot interview with this guy? I haven't know many politicians to shy from another couple million eyeballs regarding their pet project, even if it comes from non-constituents.

Re:Slashdot Interview (1)

Ramss Morales (13327) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558732)

I totally back this up.

I'm from Panamá. My government has its head inside its but. They beleive Microsoft is the Mesiah, the saviour of the opressed and the poor.

More information from another latin american country could help people to wake up.

Interview!!!

RMs goes Senile (-1, Flamebait)

linuxislandsucks (461335) | more than 12 years ago | (#3558460)

It is interesting that RMS will use the method of distoring every one lese's comments on the issue to try to supported his view point...

To: RMS

Want to name an os system then do you own!

Your tool sfrom gnu already got mentioned numerous times and prasied ..

Stop stomping our damn CLOUD!
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