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E3: Epic, US Army Develop Games as Recruitment Tool

michael posted more than 12 years ago | from the army-of-one dept.

Games 820

securitas writes "Reuters and AP tell us that Epic Games and the US Army have announced the America's Army series of games, jointly developed by the Department of Defense and Epic. The first two-part game in the five-year project includes an RPG called Soldier and a first-person shooter called Operations. The game will be free of charge and available for download in July or August, with 1.2 million CDs simultaneously released, attached to gaming magazines. Does this remind anyone else of the war-room scene from Toys or Ender's Game?" Future installments will include Sim Mess Duty, Sim Standing Guard in the Rain, Sim Blister, and Sim Invading Iraq to Keep Approval Ratings High.

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Nope (-1, Offtopic)

L1nUx h4x0r (574828) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571633)

Not the first post...

yep (-1)

real_b0fh (557599) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571638)

yes it is.

cheers

Re:Nope (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571680)

check this shit out [clearguidance.com]

Re:Nope (-1)

Adolf Hitroll (562418) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571713)

so, the obesest kids will become the future of the grand american army that can not even fight in the jungle ?
so what, they'll eat the ennemy ?

Smelly Post (-1, Offtopic)

hagardtroll (562208) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571635)

I would like to take this opportunity to blow some Karma points. Thank you very much.

Third... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571646)

post!

I just hope the games kick ass... (3, Funny)

neo (4625) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571653)

and I also hope that Microsoft doesn't start complaining about how the Military is now in competition with their games. How is Microsoft supposed to make money on military games if the US Military is giving games away for free?

On a serious note, I'd only have a problem with this if it didn't show what military life was really like. For example, I hope their sims version shows you the excitement of cleaning bathrooms and that you can level up in rock painting. Both of these skills are extremely important to the US Military.

Re:I just hope the games kick ass... (5, Funny)

reaper20 (23396) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571665)

"Green soldier has gained a level!"

YES! Fear me mighty urinal!

ok dumbass (-1)

Forsh (572618) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571689)

Microsoft can make some good ass games. So stfu linsux troll, go practice you religion some more. As if ANYONE expected the gov to make better...

Slashdotted!?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571733)

Web URL isn't responding - did we just Slashdot the US Army??? Kewl - never mind carbombs, just point Slashdot at any military website and throw it into uttter chaos!!!

Re:I just hope the games kick ass... (1)

peddrenth (575761) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571815)

I guess we'll never know, as the "America's army" site features a single blank page.

Nevermind. I'll stick with Soulblighter for now. I spend more time in C12 battles than C21 ones in real-life anyway.

Missing the point yet again (3, Insightful)

Wind_Walker (83965) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571654)

Blah blah blah Army blah blah games blah blah brainwash the youth of America... God, get over yourself.

Speaking as a hardcore gamer myself, I could care less about who makes a game. I couldn't care less about how it's distributed. I couldn't care less about how it's "brainwashing people" or how it's "like Toys!". It all comes down to one thing: Is the game fun? From what Penny Arcade [penny-arcade.com] tells me, it is going to be fun. That's all I care about.

This is what separates the average geek crowd from the true gamers among us. The average geeks don't understand what it really means to be a hardcore gamer. All they care about is how many polys a model has, how good it looks, or how the breasts are modeled ("She kicks high"). Hell, I'm 23 and I'll be playing Mario, Zelda, and dozens of other "kiddie" games the day they're released, and I don't care.

This is why I hate mainstream media coverage of games. Leave it to the professionals, please.

More cavity searches in Holland, MI (-1)

ReluctantBadger (550830) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571655)


Wednesday 22 May, 2002 HOLLAND, MI - Authorities are investigating the ever increasing incidents of cavity searches at Township Airport, which is situated 4 miles northwest of the town of Holland. Official records show that there has been over a 500% increase in the number of full cavity searches conducted by its officials between 1994 and 2002. The number of searches being conducted has steadily risen each year, and now authorities are becoming concerned that there is a problem. A security officer within the airport revealed that the majority of these searches are being conducted on a very small group of regular travellers. The issue was first raised by an administrative worker, who noticed the spending on lubricant and latex gloves and raised the alarm with senior management. One source within the airport told us that the cavity searches were even being conducted at the request of the passengers themselves. On one occasion, a passenger even removed his trousers prior to leaving the aircraft in anticipation of the check. A female passenger lodged a complaint with airport staff after finding a man inserting aniseed sweets up his rectum outside a phone kiosk. The man, known only as Katz, has been spotted on several occasions, walking back and forth past the guard dogs and generally looking suspicious. Experts examining the case think that this behaviour is consitent with attempting to induce the need for a rectal examination. In March, Robert Malda was arrested by Michigan State Police for sexually harassing security staff at the airport. Stephen Young, a guard at the airport, filed a complaint after Malda cornered him by an X-Ray machine. Malda was dragged away from the airport screaming "Stevie's pinkie is bigger than CowboyNeal's fist!" Airport officials say the investigation is still underway, but have hinted that the majority of these problems seem to be caused by men carrying laptop computers and wearing t-shirts emblazoned with a penguin.

LOL!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571690)

Keep up the good work!

Ender's Game? (0)

L1nUx h4x0r (574828) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571657)

I don't know. The battle room in that was pretty damned cool.

That, and I doubt that "down" is toward the enemy's gate in this one.

Re:Ender's Game? (1)

uberdave (526529) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571765)

Actually, it reminds me of the Last Starfighter more than anything else. Recruiting those with a high score...

Re:Ender's Game? (5, Funny)

arkanes (521690) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571857)

Yeah, but imagine the suprise when they go to recruit the high scorer and it's just some punkass kidd with a wallcheat and an aim bot.

Hey, if you want realism who would know better? (2)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571658)

At least in their games we won't have powerups popping up... or my favorite first person shooter gaffe - shooting people only to have them fall forward or straight down. Of course this could backfire as well, people might not want to join the Army after seeing that its not all that different from a real job.

It is also possible that they may run afoul of Congress, after all all that violence has got to be bad. Figure some Congressional Democrats will scream about it and the anti-2nd Amendment crowd will be there soon.

Re:Hey, if you want realism who would know better? (1, Funny)

MouseR (3264) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571673)

I wonder if this game will allow bombing down Canadians in training exercise, as in reality.

Army of One (5, Funny)

Imperator (17614) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571661)

See, I don't get this whole "Army of One" business. If I were to join the army, I wouldn't want to be fighting alone. I'm not delusional: I know I can't defeat enemies Rambo-style. No, I'd want to be part of a "Big-Ass Army of Many Ass-Kicking Soldiers, Tanks, and Other Military Equipent". Apparently I have to sign up with some other country to get this.

Re:Army of One (2, Insightful)

mobets (101759) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571710)

They've started a new one. "Watch ME become WE"

Re:Army of One (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571723)

Yes, and be shot in the back by an incompetent co-worker :)

Re:Army of One (5, Insightful)

Martin Blank (154261) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571725)

It's an attempt to stamp out the perception of a soldier being a mindless automaton, a concept well overdue. I know a number of military people, and aside from being generally more disciplined and more respectful, they're not all that different. Once they get into other, more elite units like the Rangers, Airborne, Special Forces, etc, they *have* to be able to think for themselves, particularly because their missions require flexibility and since command may well fall on them in an emergency.

Re:Army of One (5, Funny)

Rolker (24927) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571746)

Join Canada'a army! Then you will be part of an "Army of about Eight"

Re:Army of One (3, Insightful)

rark (15224) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571834)

I think the idea is that they are trying to get away from the whole 'cannon fodder' stereotype -- where any individual soldier is merely one more target in a wall of human targets, and nothing more.

That, and trying to convince a generation that at least *thinks * they are individualistic that they really want to join up.

Re:Army of One (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571841)

Why would I have to _join_ to be "An Army of One"? Since its just me anyways how is this different from not joining? I am confused

You all are going to love this.... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571664)

HEH click here

Don't Foget This One... (3, Insightful)

Livn4Golf (83604) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571669)

Future installments will include Sim Mess Duty, Sim Standing Guard in the Rain, Sim Blister, and Sim Invading Iraq to Keep Approval Ratings High.

Don't forget the final game in the series: "Risking Their Lives to Protect Your Right to Make Stupid Jokes."

Re:Don't Foget This One... (1, Interesting)

Zeddicus_Z (214454) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571677)

Damn straight. Whether you're talking US troops, Australian troops or troops from *any* country.

They deserve respect, not ridiclue.

Mod this parent up.

Re:Don't Foget This One... (3, Insightful)

cjpez (148000) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571808)

Um, wasn't he making fun of the game? I didn't see anything in there ridiculing the actual armed forces . . . Unless you consider programming video games equivalent to "Risking Their Lives." I don't.

MOD PARENT UP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571703)

thats all I really have to say.

Re:Don't Foget This One... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571731)

[irony]
yup. in iraq, jugoslavia and other countries.
[/irony]

Re:Don't Foget This One... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571804)


Or the kid soldiers in Ruanda and Kongo, who have the respectfull average age of thirteen. Yeah

Re:Don't Foget This One... (1, Interesting)

naughtypenguin (556137) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571744)

I served on active duty for 7 years with the Navy and Marines. I was in Somalia when the shit hit the fan but guess what other than that two weeks of my life in the military... it was yes boring mundane stuff like posted above. My best friend from high school joined the navy to see the world and work on aircraft engines... he spent the first 6 months cleaning toilets on the USS Roosevelt.

People tend to think that the military is rought with action and excitement... Then they enlist.

Re:Don't Foget This One... (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571763)

he wasn't talking about the troups, he was talking about the the prez.

just like his daddy did.

Re:Don't Foget This One... (0, Offtopic)

h0rus (451357) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571788)

Where's proof of that? Oh, right. There is none. You're just parrotting.

Re:Don't Foget This One... (2)

Ooblek (544753) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571799)

What about "Sim Manhatten Project"? Add that as a mod to Black & White.....

Re:Don't Foget This One... (0, Troll)

d^2b (34992) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571863)

Umm. How about:

"Sim Risking their Lives to Improve the President's Chances in the Next E(r|l)ection?"

There. Now everybody should be happy. Except
maybe Democrats. Or Republicans.

-- Playing nice with the other children since my
last electroshock treatment

What about the Canadians? (0, Flamebait)

purpledinoz (573045) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571671)

I wonder if the US will recruit Canadians too, might as well....

Re:What about the Canadians? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571704)

I'm not sure on that - during the Gulf War I heard of a few Canadians serving with US National Guard and Army Reserve units - I don't know if they had dual citizenship or anything, however.

Re:What about the Canadians? (-1, Troll)

Commienst (102745) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571712)

Canadians are actually likeable. They will never pass off or fit in as Americans.

Re:What about the Canadians? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571782)

Hahaha

yeah right you ignorant, self-oriented fat american retard.

Re:What about the Canadians? (1)

purpledinoz (573045) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571862)

Yeah, I guess if we Canucks are to pass as American, we need to get fatter, and stop saying 'eh', eh?

See US training (2, Interesting)

Arsewiper (535175) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571674)

If it's accurate and in depth it should sell well in the Middle East. Hope it emphasises not shooting allies.

linsux whores (-1)

Forsh (572618) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571676)

stop thinking linsux IS A RELIGION, its NOT!

Is this news or editorial? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571679)

Sim Invading Iraq to Keep Approval Ratings High.

This is a news site, correct? And on most news sites isn't editorial content explicitly labeled as opinion or commentary?

I realize that michael may think that all slashdotters agree with his bias, whatever it may be, but I assure you there are many who do not.

In other words, michael, keep your opinions to yourself if you want to pass this off as a news site!

Re:Is this news or editorial? (1)

GS11_Pus (578643) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571752)

Perhaps that should read...

Sim Invading Iraq to Keep Them From Detonating Nuclear Weapons in our Country

Although, I guess that isn't any more subjective.

Re:Is this news or editorial? (-1, Offtopic)

rhazes (562498) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571778)

Good to see that -someone- swallows the horseshit that the Administration puts out. Otherwise all those wonks would be wasting their time...

Re:Is this news or editorial? (1)

GS11_Pus (578643) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571832)

Yeah, terrorism will _never_ reach the US...

Sim*.* ? (-1)

Adolf Hitroll (562418) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571682)

Future installments will include Sim Mess Duty, Sim Standing Guard in the Rain, Sim Blister, and Sim Invading Iraq to Keep Approval Ratings High.

Is this supposed to be funny because it is posted by the stupendously anti-censorship against himself Michael Sim(insert extra chars here) ?

PK's (2)

Sarin (112173) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571683)

so basicly this says: uncle sam wants PK's

Other sims for military (0)

naughtypenguin (556137) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571692)

Sim-Go-out-to-sea-for-six-months-and-not-get-lai d.

or

Sim-Jungle-Rot

or

Sim-Beaurocratic-Crap(??)

or

Sim-I've-got-some-vicious-form-of-Gonarhea-from- mo mma-san.

and the source ? (1, Offtopic)

johnjones (14274) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571694)

this is U.S. taxpayers money where's the source ?
(my yank mate is always on about how U.S. guv gives stuff away that has been payed by the tax payers)

plus is there a linux version ?
PS2 ?
Xbox ?
playstation?

if they gave the source away ......

regards

john 'brit so what do I know' jones

Government-subsidized violent games? (1)

panaceaa (205396) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571695)

It will be interesting to see how violent these games are. With the recurring parental backlash [slashdot.org] against violent video games after high-school shootings and other events, will those same people start complaining about the government creating these games? This issue gets increasingly complex considering the Army is partially trying to recruit high school students under 18.

Given this situation, I suspect these games would primarily be based on military strategy with an emphasis on non-violent missions.

Ender's Game! (1, Informative)

K'tohg (115837) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571699)

This is great! Another fan of Ender's Game. I find them so rare and scattered. I try to convice Ender's Game and Ender's Shadow are the best books ever. But many people just stare at me blankly a few have even smacked me. Sad.

friendly fire (3, Funny)

Bassthang (78064) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571702)

Accidently shooting your allies in "Operations" will gain you extra points. (The versions of the game in non-US NATO countries will not have this feature).

Re:friendly fire (1)

fraggleyid (134125) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571734)

For the advanced gamer: Play as an ally and have to avoid being shot from all sides...

and the difference is? (2, Funny)

PiGuy (531424) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571705)

How could such a game be terribly different from another other first person shooter, especially those that were specifically designed to simulate an army experience (minus the bathroom duty, etc.). I'm guessing the sole difference is that you'd see army advertisments everywhere, and the music would be bad. And I'm sure the won't have boot camp instructors yelling their heads off, etc., but rather the classic "shaking-jaw-scrolling-text-so-slow-can't-speed-it -up-but-can-skip-it-with-a-keypress" mission briefs...
"Hey, did you know that these violent games that you love to shoot people in are based on real life? In the next level, there are no extra lives - join the Army!"

Gimme a break (0, Flamebait)

Clue4All (580842) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571706)

Future installments will include Sim Mess Duty, Sim Standing Guard in the Rain, Sim Blister, and Sim Invading Iraq to Keep Approval Ratings High.

I think it's very classy of you to make jokes about people who have died for your freedom. Sure, it sucks that the US get stuck policing the world, but as we've been shown, it's not going to do it on its own, and it doesn't look like anyone else is jumping up to do the job. Your attitude is disgusting.

Re:Gimme a break (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571774)

Could someone please explain to me how a post that QUOTES THE ORIGINAL ARTICLE is offtopic? I can't wait to see you fucktards in metamoderation.

Re:Gimme a break (5, Insightful)

CaffeineAddict2001 (518485) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571791)

"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." --George S. Patton

Re:Gimme a break (1)

The Mgt (221650) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571796)

Sure, it sucks that the US get stuck policing the world

When did they start policing the world then ?

Re:Gimme a break (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571847)

Perhaps you should re-read the header. This was not a joke about people who have died. This was a joke about people who are still alive, and a wry comment about the less exciting aspects of being in the military that the games are not likely to deliver. I spent four years in the service of our esteemed Uncle including a year in Southeast Asia in the Vietnam era, and found that the experience did not result in a sense-of-humor-ectomy.

The real thing? (1)

derelict_hmx12 (580249) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571707)

Why play a sim when you can go down to your local recruiting office and sign up to take part in the real thing?

Derelict

Re:The real thing? (2)

Martin Blank (154261) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571777)

That's the whole point. These are being distributed as a recruiting tool, to show something of what real Army life is like. They're skipping dreary details like KP, but the training is supposed to be pretty accurate to Army experience. The FPS is supposed to be reflective of real missions, where the goal is the point, not the body count. You won't have to wait for days in the jungle for a fight, but you will need some patience.

Re:The real thing? (0, Offtopic)

GigsVT (208848) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571805)

Uh, that's the point.

You shut up. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571709)

"Future installments will include Sim Mess Duty, Sim Standing Guard in the Rain, Sim Blister, and Sim Invading Iraq to Keep Approval Ratings High."

You shut up. You never served, you don't know the meaning of it, and you have no right to make light of the service that keeps your fat ass safe back here in the states.

Re:You shut up. (3, Insightful)

Peyna (14792) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571806)

Yes, I am replying to a troll, but I feel the need to.

I only hope this comment was done in sarcasm, but this elitist attitude I so often see from people who served in the military that bothers me. You tell me that I don't understand the meaning of the military or service, yet every day I drive by dozens of memorials to those who have died in the past, and am reminded of their sacrifice. I am thankful that there were people like them to protect our nation.

Then I drive by lots of real tall buildings, and I am reminding of the what they were fighting to protect. Which is more important, the fight, or that which is being protected? I am grateful forpeople serve our military; my grandfather was in Korea, and my father served during the Vietnam Era.

Still, that which is protected bears greater significance than the protectors. Our freedoms, liberties, our constitution, all are much more important than the soldier that died in an attempt to preserve them.

The fight to preserve our liberties is no longer being fought on foreign battlefields, but in our legal system. I think we had a better chance when it had to do with who lasted the longest out there than we do putting faith in judges, juries, and politicians.

But please, do not ever tell me I don't understand the military, or have no right to make light of it. If it really was protecting my rights, then I can say anything I want to about them, now can't I? =]

Maybe they should have an army guild on Everquest (1)

Aliks (530618) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571711)

It makes me wonder whether there are already army recruiters out there on Everquest looking for tech savvy youth. You can certainly tell who is a good soldier and who is not after a serious dragon raid! In fact some of the the guild leaders on Everquest remind me of the stereotype army sergeant barking out orders to keep the troops in line. Maybe this is where they go the idea from.

Why? (1)

BoBaBrain (215786) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571714)

I don't get it. Why put so much time and effort into developing an advert. Is it really going to attract more people into the army? Are they really going to use for training? Surely a poster campain and some paintball would do the trick.

What's the catch? Why do the army want this softwear installed on our machines?

Re:Why? (0)

GS11_Pus (578643) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571803)

Ever heard of "Stop Loss?"

Right now retention rates in the military are not keeping up with what is required to fight a two front war, and that is the standard the military set for themselves after WWII.

In case you haven't been reading the real news, the war is getting more and more dangerous. It's entirely possible that the Middle East situation will erupt into WWIII, and if China decides that's a good time to attack Tawain...

Even if Sharon and Arafat do the amazing and find peace, it's only a matter of time until China starts attacking Asia. Their population growth is just out of control, and eventually they will be left with very few options and a helluva lot of soldiers.

Anyway, Stop Loss was initiated shortly after 9/11, and members of the military (this might be confined to certain career fields, not sure) are not allowed to separate, even if their enlistement is up. I suspect few civilians know this even exists. But it does, and in fact, I missed Stop Loss by less than a month. I separated Sep. 4th, and Stop Loss was initiated Oct. 1st.

So why you ask? Well there you go.

Also posted... (0)

Armaphine (180636) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571717)

Over on kuro5hin [kuro5hin.org] .

I'm sure the Army appreciates... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571724)

...the Slashdot denial of service attack.

Re:I'm sure the Army appreciates... (0)

L1nUx h4x0r (574828) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571748)

Distributed denial of service attack. Much better than a single point to point.

at last! (1)

Jucius Maximus (229128) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571729)

This should be interesting.

I know many people who are frustrated with these games where you have to take hundreds of hits before you are taken down. [The rare exception is Delta Force.] In real life, a single well placed bullet will end a soldier.

It is very hard to find realistic games like this and I suspect the 'realistic fun' of it will be a joy for people who are tired of not being killed by a rocket to the chest.

Re:at last! (2)

platypus (18156) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571807)

take a look at
operation flashpoint.

One thing that adds to the realism (besides the damage when being hit) is that you can walk or drive over whole islands with several small towns on them.
These areas (the whole game takes place on three islands) are enourmous - several kms diameter.

sim..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571732)

Sim Tailhook scandal....
Sim Don't ask don't tell...
Sim $400 toliet seat/$300 hammer...
Sim Psych-ops...

Re:sim..... (1)

ryepup (522994) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571833)

You realize that the $400 toilet seat / $300 hammer thing was a fluke of accounting, right? They added up all they spent, then divided it by the number of things they bought. So they got a $300 dollar hammer but also got a $300 jeep.

At least, thats what my old high school economics book said.

eek, that would discourage me.. (1)

pstreck (558593) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571743)

hrmm, i can picture the comercial now "Amazing explosive Apache action!".. followed by a stinger blowing up your helicopter. makes me want to run out and get shot, err be in the army..

global thermonuclear war! (1)

peter303 (12292) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571751)

"Do you want to play a game"? asks a classified war computer to Matthew Broedrick in the 19809s classic "War Games". Matt thinks hes hacked into a nifty new game site, when really it is an important defence computer. Things dont change much in 20 years.

Re:global thermonuclear war! (1)

spagma (514837) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571786)

Actually its "Would you like to play a game?"

Extend the axis of evil and get bonus points. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571757)

And our two other favourite missions:

Shoot first ask questions laters.

Civilian casualties are naughty naughty naughty, but what the hell. Canadians included.

michael censors back (-1)

Adolf Hitroll (562418) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571772)

all the guyz that complained about his final sim remark have been modded down by either the mich-sim-fag himself or his cocksuckers...

Realism or Power Fantasy? (1)

yndrd (529288) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571773)

It'll be interesting to see what the developers decide to use as a means to encourage people to join the military:

  • Realism, in which I'm shot in the leg and die of infection in a swamp a thousand miles from home.
  • Power Fantasy, in which I single-handedly defeat legions of nasties.

I'm not sure the realistic approach would be an effective recruitment tool. I don't remember people lining up to enlist after watching Saving Private Ryan: "Come! Join us! You too can wobble in shock holding your own severed leg."

Navy games? (5, Funny)

pjdepasq (214609) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571776)

Gee, I hope if the Navy does something like this, there will be SimTailHook.... now that's one I'd like to play!

The Last Starfighter (1)

johndou1 (471942) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571790)

Doesn't anyone remember the movie:The Last Starfighter?

The aliens used video games on earth to train and recruit pilots for the war they were in.

The Army will be watching to see who plays well and be giving them a visit.

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0087597

I have seen this (5, Informative)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571801)

It is based on the Unreal engine, and it is awesome. nothing like your regular FPS.. it has the reality dial turned way up... if you get hit once you are dead, or bleeding to death no mega heath, no railgun's, no ammo everywhere, just your handy GI issued weapons. From the demo I watched and played, FPS fans will hate it. and several of the "kids" though it sucked, it requires thinking, skill, and for the player to be clever... very unlike FPS games where most of the players just run around hopping firing at everything that moves... camping is a requirement and only the stupid players do anything other than camping (stupid players=dead players)

so basically, if you're the type of FPS player that gets' wildly mad at campers, you will hate it.

Problems with gov/mil sites. (0)

Alron (12242) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571802)

Has anyone else noticed any problems connecting to alot of .GOV or .MIL sites? When I try to connect they ping me then wont let me in. Go figure, not only with these bloody army game sites, but with other sites like ins.gov. I find it mildly annoying and am really just wondering if I'm the only person that they ping. ;)

Its as if they dont want me to play their games. Guess they know I'm too good for them or something. Lol.

-

Re:Problems with gov/mil sites. (1)

Domasi (318366) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571830)

I would think lately with all these cyber-terrorist rumors and and still in the wake of the 9/11 issue and the new alert they have going that most if not all GOV/MIL sites are being monitored and would take some time to reach a destination...

Or if just could be my imagination.

Would be fun to mod (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571812)

Change it all around to anti-us propaganda... haha.

Speaking from experience... (3, Insightful)

Art_XIV (249990) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571816)

I don't seem to recall there being any "Save often, Reload when you are Killed" workaround during my time in the Army.

Nor were power-ups of any sort available, unless you count caffiene.

It was certainly real-time, though much of the real-time was spent waiting.

The Last Starfigher (1)

hamoi (140685) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571817)

Didnt the good guys use something similar in the last starfighter? Will a recruiting officer show up at my house if I get a certain high score? :)

other possible Sims: (2)

blankmange (571591) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571823)

As a vet, I don't make light of our nation's armed services, their dedication, or their mission. I did, however, find it amusing to think about other possible sims to show true military life:

Sim KP, Sim Boot Camp, Sim Freeze-Your-Ass-Off-While-Marching, etc...

God Bless our sons and daughters in harm's way!

Other branches of government's games (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3571824)

FBI: "Uh OH!": Can you pull your head out of your ass before diaper-heads murder thousands.

Department of Health and Human Services: "The Great Big Giveaway": Hand out bigger welfare and Social Security and Medicaid checks to buy votes for the president.

Department of Education: "It's Mine!": Prevent any use of school vouchers to squash competition for failing public schools that hold minority children in thrall just to preserver the power of an ultra leftist teacher's union

Mission #1 (0, Flamebait)

Hard_Code (49548) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571828)

Objectives:

* Depart from airbase and patrol no-fly zone.
* Follow waypoints to Canadian "training" area.
* Drop bombs
* Shit, I mean DON'T DROP BOMBS!

What about these? (2)

telstar (236404) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571837)

Sim Friendly Fire
Sim Don't Ask Don't Tell

or everybody's cult favorite...

Sim Seargent Pile

Way to go (2, Insightful)

TheCabal (215908) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571846)

Future installments will include Sim Mess Duty, Sim Standing Guard in the Rain, Sim Blister, and Sim Invading Iraq to Keep Approval Ratings High.

Nice way to belittle the work and sacrifices that I and millions of other people throughout the world have given in protecting YOUR rights. Yes, guard and mess duty sucks, but it's a part of military life. So does PT, first call at zero-dark-thirty, inspections, shining boots, cleaning weapons, endless makework, etc.. but it's all a necessary part of military life in order to keep discipline.

As for "Sim Invading Iraq to Keep Approval Ratings High", that's an issue with the leadership, not the men and women who go when given the order. It's easy to criticize and ridicule from the safety of one's Aeron office chair. It's another thing entirely to raise your hand and swear to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. Don't knock it until you've tried it.

This is going to suck (2, Funny)

dipfan (192591) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571851)

Unlike similar combat games, the primary goal of "America's Army" is not killing a massive number of enemies, but instead completing tasks and setting career goals.
"Will there be guys tearing off arms and using them for clubs? No. Because the Army would never do that."


They just lost their target audience - if I can't use somebody's arm as a club, I ain't interested. Career goals? Fsck that.

Is it just me or.... (1)

Domasi (318366) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571858)

All the information they requested sounds like they are trying to increase their database of new recruit possibilities...

You liked the game.. how would you like to kill real people, son?

Be all you can be, until dinner-time :)

video meets reality (1)

Mr Tigerpants (578400) | more than 12 years ago | (#3571861)

If they're really bringing in video game stuff, I wanna join the Army and use them there "Stinky Hands" from Dakitana or that crossbow that shoots TNT-loaded chickens from Redneck Rampage. Never mind Crudsader, here comes a divisions of camoulaged soldiers waving Stinky Hands and chickens over the horizon.....
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