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Extreme Cooling

michael posted more than 12 years ago | from the she's-falling-in-a-slow-descending-funk dept.

Hardware 169

hakkikt writes "Icrontic brings us a review about a CPU-cooling device every self-respecting overclocker and cpu-speed freak must get. The device is called MX-EVA3. With a price of US$500, it's not for the faint of wallet, but the performance is awesome."

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LOL (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583042)

For 500$, can't you just buy a faster CPU?

Sometimes (1)

exphoria (581463) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583092)

But not when you're at the top of the line for consumer processors (XP 2100+, for example.). But then, really, why would you overclock that 2100+? For 243 fps as opposed to 230 fps in quake3 with full detail? It's not that useful, in reality. sk

Re:LOL (0)

Butt Spelunker (580918) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583096)

You don't get to laugh outloud you ass-cramming AC. Go spelunk some more butts. Anal Speleologist.

Eese is not the only one any more (-1, Offtopic)

my brain hurts (451541) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583043)

Keep on hacking the mainframe, boys.

San Dimas High Football Rules.

$500 (1)

Profe55or Booty (540761) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583044)

for that price couldn't you just buy 2 1.8 or so processors and a dual processor MB?

Re:$500 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583171)

you, sir, lack the knowledge of why true overclocking is done in the first place

Re:$500 (2)

Erik Fish (106896) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583244)

Because some people have more money than brains?

Seriously, practical overclocking is currently dead. It died when my Celeron 533 running at 824 (and even the 533's that could hit 1GHz) stopped cutting it for the latest games. The price/performance ratio advantage that overclocking used to give you simply doesn't exist with current hardware.

My brother boasted to me the other day about how his video card can be overclocked in software and it doesn't void the warranty. Hello? This isn't overclocking, it's the manufacturer underclocking to sell more units to people who are so far into the rice boy mentality that their mind shuts down and their wallet opens up when they see the word "overclock".

Re:$500 (2)

Elbereth (58257) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583268)

Most overclockers just do it because it can be done. They don't really care about price/performance, although they will sometimes claim that as a benefit of all their time and money spent (wasted?) on overclocking.

I don't really see much point in it, since I'm only interested in price/performance. I can find much better solutions than overclocking (usually, switching software or CPU architecture).

If someone wants to create the ultimate desktop system, I'd suggest investing in server technology rather than pushing consumer technology to its limits. You can get some really cool stuff off ebay for pennies on the dollar... too bad that there's nothing really pushing consumer technology to its limits, except for benchmarks.

Re:$500 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583186)

Yeah, but a Celery 300A @ 2Ghz is more far impressive. To overclockers, at least.

Of course, if you've got an XP 2200+ box and $500... *drool*

Re:$500 (1)

packeteer (566398) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583275)

overclocking will reach its limits when a one of a couple of thigns happen: 1. the chip core cannot disperse the heat fast enough and the chip fries... no matter how bad as your fan is the heat must still be pulled away to the heat sink and then dispersed... if its hot enough it will fry the chip first. 2. to even get a extremely high overclock one must give the chip more voltage... this usually requires a soldering iron and some new capacitors and voltage regulators... very difficult and still wont speed it up... 2. the rest of the system cannot handle it... if the core logic chipset cannot handle the speed then your cpu and ram cannot speak to each other and any work the cpu does will be for no good cause you have already crashed.

Re:$500 (1)

packeteer (566398) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583287)

damn view as html... lemme reformat that... oh god NOW i remmeber what "preview" is for.. i also know what sleep is for...

overclocking will reach its limits when a one of a couple of thigns happen:

1. the chip core cannot disperse the heat fast enough and the chip fries... no matter how bad as your fan is the heat must still be pulled away to the heat sink and then dispersed... if its hot enough it will fry the chip first.

2. to even get a extremely high overclock one must give the chip more voltage... this usually requires a soldering iron and some new capacitors and voltage regulators... very difficult and still wont speed it up...

3. the rest of the system cannot handle it... if the core logic chipset cannot handle the speed then your cpu and ram cannot speak to each other and any work the cpu does will be for no good cause you have already crashed.

1 post and... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583046)

the site is down. Will this get me to 20 seconds/ Yes. I believe it will.

Cooling (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583047)

Athlons.
Who needs performance anyway? I already get 120 fps.
Windows will always be one step ahead of performance.
Overclocking is stealing.

Any more?

turn this phrase (1)

bluecalix (128634) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583049)

ahh, the good old "faint of wallet".

Horay for Server administration (2, Troll)

CtrlPhreak (226872) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583050)

Go mysql, one comment and already overloaded!

On the other hand, I do like mysql, but it seems nobody configures it to have a load on it. Oh well, a good /.ing will teach them different!

Re:Horay for Server administration (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583100)

Not really on topic, but mod the parent up.

I too, used to think mysql sucked arse until I saw people who had configured it correctly.

I still prefer postgres, but hey, mysql isn't as crappy as the average slashdotter would have you believe.

Re:Horay for Server administration (0, Redundant)

packeteer (566398) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583145)

http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:kkoUVTGQZPIC: www.icrontic.com/+&hl=en&ie=UTF8

Re:Horay for Server administration (2, Informative)

sheriff_p (138609) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583465)

I couldn't get on to the pages after the first, due to MySQL being screwed, *but*, you can view the printable version [icrontic.com] on their site to read the whole thing.

Imagine (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583052)

A beowulf cluster of these on a beowulf cluster!

Fierst p0sTer? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583057)

I rewl. Props to my niggahs.

Re:Fierst p0sTer? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583094)

First Moderation!

doesn't beat this one (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583058)

http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/

--m

What, 10 posts in... (2, Funny)

testrake (548083) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583059)

and it's completely hosed already?

Sheesh.

Perhaps they should've used the $500 dollar heat sink on their server and kicked it up a notch.

Re:What, 10 posts in... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583326)

We all know that's what Emiril Legasse would do.
Matter of fact that bro has a beowulf cluster of 286's overclocked to 6PHz a pop. Coupled with some Exabyte storage on his holographic frobble-snazz.

Where was I again...oh yes...Greetings Professor Falken...

Mirror (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583061)

There is a mirror of the article, with pictures, here [sybian.com]

Re:Mirror (1)

Analog Assailant (553115) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583071)

But that heats women up, not cools them down!

Re:Mirror (1)

rajivvarma (71946) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583120)

Just a note, the link is not a mirror of the article, but rather a link to information on vibrators.

Re:Mirror (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583135)

You have to admit that they look identical though.

500 bucks? (1)

chuckcolby (170019) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583063)

For five hundred bucks, that thing sticking out the top BETTER be how it reproduces.

Overclocking cost? (3, Insightful)

neksys (87486) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583064)

Why pay $500 for a cooling device when the next-step high mHz CPU can be purchased for less than that? I mean, the appeal of overclocking is that it allows people to extend their hardware far beyond the intended lifetimes. So say you've got an Intel 900, and with this device, you can overclock it to 1.4 gHz. So what have you gained? An unstable, extremely expensive CPU. The equivalient "real" 1.4 ghz chip could have been purchased for less than the cooling device.

And nevermind those, "I have my Celeron 300 running at 2.3 gigahertz!" folks. CPU speed is so overrated - remember, fast RAM, and lots of it, is the best thing you can do to increase system performance. Don't fall victim to the overclocking madness - spend that $500 on a gig of RAM.

Re:Overclocking cost? (2, Insightful)

Kelerain (577551) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583093)

Dont underestimate overclockers fanaticism for these things. And there are ALWAYS higher numbers that arent on sale. 3GHZ chips out? they want to be the first to overclock to 4GHZ. and some people have money to burn (or cool), but hey its helping the economy right? Im with you on the gig of ram thing.. *drools* but what do you use to cool your overclocked gig of ram? ;)

Re:Overclocking cost? (1)

neksys (87486) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583115)

some people have money to burn (or cool), but hey its helping the economy right?


Maybe so, but christ, donate it to a charity or something. Do something good for those who can't afford purchase ridiculous CPU cooling devices - not to mention provide food and clean housing for their children.

And that, in a nutshell, is the problem with the western world.

Re:Overclocking cost? (0)

exphoria (581463) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583143)

There's a societal bell curve, and there always will be. Drastic measures are needed to fix this, and chances are, this condition will not be fixed. One major problem is that the homeless chumps don't manage to do anything about their situation. Same with those on welfare. There should not be unemployment when I see "Help Wanted" anywhere. But, in a way, buying this to overclock will be donating to a charity (eh... welfare) through the tax of the purchase.

Re:Overclocking cost? (2)

digitalunity (19107) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583242)

I for one understand the need and importance of this bell curve. What I don't understand is everyone thinking this is a problem. Every civilization since the dawn of time has had this socioeconomic distribution.

It is necessary.

distribution of wealth (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583456)

Yes, bell curve sounds okay, but
if you plot the number of people vs. annual income, do you really think you get a gaussian distribution? Having serious doubts about this one.

Re:Overclocking cost? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583236)

What are you doing posting here? Shouldn't you be out feeding the hungry? Housing the homeless?

Re:Overclocking cost? (1)

King of the World (212739) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583166)

Why pay $500 for a cooling device when the next-step high mHz CPU can be purchased for less than that?
Obviously you've never met a boyracer, eh?

Re:Overclocking cost? (5, Insightful)

Gaccm (80209) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583198)

1) spend $500 on a gig of RAM

I never use more than 256megs of ram, so buying more ram wont help.

2) Its not all about cpu speed.

You are completely right, thats why, if you read the site and looked at the screenies, the guy overclocked his System Bus (thus affecting ram and all) to 181Mhz (from a default 133). THAT IS A LOT. That is a very noticable speed difference.

3) use the money for something else

call this an investment. If this thing lasts for 3 computers, then you have probably "saved" more money by not having to pay for permium speed. Your example was having a 900mhz and going to 1.4ghz. Thats pretty sweet, but what about going from 2ghz to 3.4ghz. 3.4ghz is beyond any chip in production right now, but i've seen shots from a person who has been able to get that speed. This device isn't for people with a p3 900, it is for the extreme people and for them the benefits outweigh the costs.

Re:Overclocking cost? (1)

BeazleyR (179862) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583239)

I believe that he overclocked it from 1.7 ghz to 2.2.

Re:Overclocking cost? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583299)

I never use more than 256megs of ram, so buying more ram wont help.

You have disabled disk caching? Not very smart.

Re:Overclocking cost? (1)

gTsiros (205624) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583376)

> I never use more than 256megs of ram, so buying
> more ram wont help.

Yes, it will. More ram-cache.

Much to learn, you have ;)

Re:Overclocking cost? (3, Insightful)

binaryDigit (557647) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583206)

Actually something like this is for the person who just purchased the latest/greatest/fastest thing out there, and now they want more. They want the fastest Athlon out there bar none. When a faster one comes out, out goes the old "slow" chip and in goes the new one. "Look ma, a 3GHZ Athlon".

One other thing to consider is that with something with such massive cooling capacity, and the fact that it uses templates to attach to the cpu, you have a fairly future proof cooling solution. Even the 64bit monster that AMD is coming out with should be effectively cooled by this thing, assuming you can get it to fit on the cpu.

Re:Overclocking cost? (2, Interesting)

indiigo (121714) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583259)

Besides the points already brought up, the product can be re-used over and over again, making it quite the investment that could pay for itself in 2-3 upgrades.

Gotta disagree with ya there, Bob... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583300)

RAM is a nice thing to have too much of, but if you've got $500 to burn, GET A FAST AS HELL DISK SYSTEM. ATA is garbage, go with SCSI, you will not regret it.

I've found that 'responsiveness' as a subjective UI metric has always been greatly enhanced by a good high-speed spindle. Just get a smallish super-high speed disk for your system disk, put all your data (mp3's pr0n) on a cheap and slow IDE drive.

wow... (2)

mosch (204) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583065)

it requires a special kind of retard to buy one of these. a 2.2ghz Xeon is only $350, and there's somebody who thinks it's a good idea to spend $500 to chill it?

whoever it is who's buying these, can i sell you my new super-conducting speaker cables, and a liquid nitrogen supply contract?

Re:wow... (2)

danamania (540950) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583097)

Yes... it takes a special kind of user, and someone who's particularly obsessed with overclocking is that type - perhaps they have multiple machines they just want to run for a while to 'see how it all goes'. There's also the use in overclocking the fastest chips at any time, as opposed to the article's testing of a more mainstream one. As a potentially revolutionary product in the field it's in, a cooler of this type is going to be expensive - and if a success will drop in price

Personally, anything that promotes this kind of obsessive behaviour I find quite reassuring. It means it's all the more likely that my OWN little obsessions will be catered for :P

Having said that - omg $500US is insane!!

a grrl & her server [danamania.com]

Re:wow... (1)

rainwalker (174354) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583118)

I hope by "insane" you mean cheap! :) My watercooling setup has cost well over $1,000 all told, and I don't get nearly that level of performance.

Overclocking is fun! :) I hosed my main box a while back (the supercooled one), but at the time, I owned a 1.2Ghz Athlon (the fastest chip availible, anywhere, at the time) and had it running around 1580Mhz. Nothing like having one of the fastest, if not THE fastest, desktop machine in the world. THAT is the appeal of overclocking.

Re:wow... (2)

danamania (540950) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583129)

I hope by "insane" you mean cheap! :)

I say 'insane' from a non-overclockers point of view... Probably in the same way as I'd be called insane when y'see what I paid for some absolutely archaic piece of hardware. Opposites in practice, but it's all the same fun :D

if not THE fastest, desktop machine in the world. THAT is the appeal of overclocking.

That was my point :). If you enjoy it - all the more excellence in your life!

a grrl & her server [danamania.com]

Re:wow... (3, Funny)

mosch (204) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583130)

winning the fastest desktop in the world competition is like winning the 'most luxurious kia' award.

the funniest part is that most O/C'd systems have drive subsystems that are far from top-of-the-line, and overall system performance would be helped more by fixing that part of the system.

well (1)

Jacer (574383) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583076)

their servers obviously don't have them installed now do they? how much does it cost for liquid nitrogen coolant?

Re:well (2, Informative)

neksys (87486) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583078)

The server isn't actually down - it's just that they've configured mysql to only accept a certain number of connections (I think 10 is the default). Keep reloading - you'll get in.

as listed on amazon.com (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583084)

other customers who bought this item also bought:

2500' suspension bridge: $19.65
pet rock (polished granite): $14.95
enron stock: $87.23

--m

EXTREME! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583090)

yep, anything is cool if EXTREME! (you have to gutterly yell it out) is added. Of course now, the fanboy term is 'uber', go figure

Slashdotted already? (2)

vrmlguy (120854) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583098)

It's 1 am here (2 am east coast, 11 pm west) and this place seems to be down. At least, I keep getting an error message about a failed mysql connection. Anyone with the page in their cache want to post it here?

Re:Slashdotted already? (3, Funny)

micahjd (54824) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583177)

It's probably an advertisement... In a few hours they'll come back online, and print something along the lines of "we wouldn't have gotten slashdotted if we were overclocking our Pentium 75 to 8gHz using this new cooler!"

Re:Slashdotted already? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583377)

I got the same message. I hit reload and everything was all good.

overclocking is a social phenomenon (2, Funny)

Moosifer (168884) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583104)

Overclocking has become a modern-day, geek equivalent of spending 5,000 hours working on some old [insert venerable American car type here] when you could just go out a new Acura NSX for less than your time was worth, and get way more chicks.

Re:overclocking is a social phenomenon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583348)

Well, a shiny, loud, and fast car would attract at least some attention and some kind of "chicks". But do any go for overclocked CPUs?

Stop stop stop! (0, Flamebait)

BLiP2 (54296) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583108)

The thing's the size of a fucking hand vac. Good god make these people stop! Make it stop!

It looks big and ugly. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583111)

For a lot less, I can put an air conditioner right next to my box.

Works wonders, and we're obviously not worried about aesthetics, so hey..

Cached Page (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583112)

Someone had to post it:

Google Cached Page [216.239.39.100]

$500 may not be too much for a cooling system (3, Insightful)

Sancho (17056) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583117)

Most people would be out of their minds to pay $500 for a fan/heatsink, but $500 for a cooling system may not be out of line. I don't know just how much cooling the CPU would bring down the total system temp.. probably by quite a bit.

The reason for this is that there are some cases/places where the ambient temperature may be too high for a computer with a normal fan.

For example, Texas, in the summer, when the AC goes out (or if there is no AC to begin with.)

Most people would just say, "Hey, turn off the computer then." That doesn't work if you're away :)

Re:$500 may not be too much for a cooling system (1)

ignorant_newbie (104175) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583123)

> Most people would just say, "Hey, turn off the computer then." That doesn't work if you're away :)

or if it's a server. it's not that hard for a temperature monitor to shut the system off, but if you loose > $1000/hr the machine is down, $500 is cheap

It's not about cost-effectiveness (5, Insightful)

SKYY (581478) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583122)

That device is not marketed for your average user--it's aimed at the people who make overclocking CPUs and hardware their hobby. Sure, you might mock the stamp collector or the model train builder for spending thousands of dollars a year on things you would consider 'crap', but do they care? No. So what if the stamp collector spends $300 on a mint-condition stamp from the year 1917--it's to support HIS hobby, for HIS enjoyment, not yours. All the same--so what if the overclocker who buys a $130 Pentium 4 1.6A and a $500 phase-change cooling box (still a bit overpriced for a R-134a compressor, IMHO)? For him, that $500 is well-spent if it lets him clock his 1.6 GHz chip to 2.8 GHz. He doesn't care what the person who is content running a PII 400 MHz chip thinks.

Overclocking as a hobby (1)

Bamfsog (535812) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583124)

It used to be we all overclocked to get a little extra performance for little or no cost. Now its a tweaking hobby. You do it to show off to your friends. You do it to get your name in the top ten on Mad Onion. You do it because you can.

hey! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583125)

listen, i'm extremely drunk right now. why aren't you? it's fucking friday night, for fuck's sake. why the hell aren't you at a club?!?!

Re:hey! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583153)

i'm f-ing your sister while you're out getting drunk

she's quite a good shag too. if i give you $40 next week, does that make you your sister's pimp and/or your sister a prostitute?

Re:hey! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583179)

too bad i don't have a sister, you ass-cramming AC. although, if i did, i wouldn't care.

smoke dick, bitch!

Re:hey! (3, Offtopic)

Sj0 (472011) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583188)

listen, i'm extremely drunk right now. why aren't you? it's fucking friday night, for fuck's sake. why the hell aren't you at a club?!?!

I could ask you the same; getting drunk in your room alone isn't cool!

Re:hey! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583195)

oh, i'm just getting ready to hit the bars downtown. SB has a nice downtown scene, but it's nothing compared to SF...

what's wrong with hitting the bottle alone, though?!

Re:hey! (3, Funny)

great throwdini (118430) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583218)

what's wrong with hitting the bottle alone, though?!

These words [sphosting.com] from your site [sphosting.com] :

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[...]

This is also going to be written entirely (as far as I can code - I already know my mouse code shall be assembly) in QuickBasic.

Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. Feel the burn ... of QuickBasic!

Re:hey! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583251)

yeah, it would take a true drunkard to think up such a beast.

you remind me of a fellow CS major i know, a *nerd* (not geek) of the highest caliber.

get laid, bitch!

Re:hey! (0, Offtopic)

Thenomain (537937) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583315)

I am posting this from a club! And violating the DMCA at the same time! You can too, just ask me how!

Offer void if taken seriously. Mind you, it could be done.)

Go figure. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583126)

I overclocked. Got a pair of 300 Celrons at 500. Yay. Cost of the heatsink/fan was cheaper than the faster CPU, at the time. And 500 was notably more useful than 300.

I guess an exotic cooler can push a 2.2Ghz P4 to 3G, or something. Is it worth $500? I don't think so. I met my basic need back with the Dual 500's.

Since you're clearly be into this only for the fun factor. You could buy a $130 5000BTU AC unit and built it into a wicked antifreeze fluid cooler. Then, at least, you could locate all that noise outside and pipe the fluid.

Re:Go figure. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583141)

uh...is this on topic? i haven't read the article or anything, but that is normal for slashdork, right? ah shit, fuck this. are you worth $500? your fun factor is 0.000000001 on the fun factor scale. do you pipe fluid into your ass? i think you do!

Awesome! (1)

terradyn (242947) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583144)

This cooling system seems to be doing wonders for their mySQL server. Lovely how descriptive the errors are. I'm sure no one would have guessed PASSWORD.

Disturbing fat guy cartoon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583148)

Am I the only one who found that disturbing?

Re:Disturbing fat guy cartoon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583205)

disturbingly erotic?

damn, son, see a psychologist...

Err.. (1)

enneff (135842) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583149)

I think I'd probably lose a lot more self-respect if I shelled out $500 for a fucking cooling device!

I don't get it. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583151)

This guy's existing setup with a peltier cooler would run at 2160 Mhz. With this he was able to run it at 2200 Mhz - a 2% gain.

$500 for a 2% gain? I can think of better things to spend my money on.

Re:I don't get it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583163)

like asian hookers?

Re:I don't get it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583167)

like a penis enlargement?

Re:I don't get it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583172)

he needs a penis to enlarge first, fuckwit

Re:I don't get it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583185)

the clit is a vestigial penis, fuckwit. how's that for a disturbing though?

Re:I don't get it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583190)

thought. fuck, i'm drunk.

fuck these inane posting rules!!!

how bout cooling HD+CD/DVDs first (-1)

cb0y (311811) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583154)

Have 3 HDs and a CDR and DVD?

All those are allways hot, even DVDs when IDLE.

Why cant we cool these suckers first.

Direct links and a quote (4, Informative)

vrmlguy (120854) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583158)

The cooler... [icrontic.com]
...being installed... [icrontic.com]
...and attached to the CPU. [icrontic.com]

Good things

As you can see the MX-EVA3 can take care of some very high heat load. It is by far the best extreme cooling solution on the market today. I've used all sorts of cooling to get to the top and I was under the impression that my 220 pelt and chilled water cooler was bringing my chip to its limits. I was wrong.

With the MX-EVA3 you can eliminate the use of pelts, extra power supplies and water. Now you use just one simple evaporator hook up.

It also is pretty good for space. It fits under your case so all you're doing is adding about 9 inches to the height of your case. As far as the noise level it is very tolerable for any Xtreme Overclocker. This can only be written up as a good thing.

Bad things

I'll start with the instructions. They are very good for condensation proofing but that's about it. There are no instructions for adjusting the Digital Display as far as setting the boot temperature or setting what ever it is you can set with the 4 buttons on the Digital Display. This would be nice to know.

They have no recommendation on moving your 4 AMD CPU tabs which in my opinion is a critical must.

Mounting is a bit tough but if you take your time you can get it right. It's always a scary moment when it comes to risking frying your CPU. I'm sure the Intel 478 mounting may be a lot easier.

500$? Cheaper to overclock your brain (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583173)

Its not like you need it anyways.. spend the money on acid and n2o.

Re:500$? Cheaper to overclock your brain (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583233)

yes, but your brain is going to get fried faster than your computer. best try out ginseng, ginkgo biloba, and some ol' fashioned exercise.

Story Department (1)

khoward1 (171460) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583184)

Heh. Am I right in thinking "She's falling in a slow descending funk" is from the Dar Williams song "As Cool As I Am?" Very nice reference. I wonder how many Slashdotters will get it?

Icrontic always hosed (1)

quantumparadox (454022) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583196)

I've been an icrontic reader since its inception as apushardware.com (for the guy in the simpsons) its always going down and really didn't deserve the slashdotting it just got. Poor ol Mortin (the site op) is always getting bashed. In case you didn't know he got his door kicked in and his computer confiscated last year because he posted a link to a new version of Counter-Strike on his filespace at his ISP. They were some pissed and called it an deliberate network DOS attack (by millions of CS fans). I think that was well beyond the slashdot effect.

Re:Icrontic always hosed (1)

exphoria (581463) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583203)

Wouldn't that be some sort of violation of rights? I'm sure that his webspace contract allows filehosting, after all, a website is just a few files... I'm surprised Mortin still does the gig after gettin' ripped so many new ones.

Other cpu cooler uses? (2, Funny)

BingoBoingo (538071) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583246)

Can I hook one of these things to the bottom of my Jolt Cola can? -Bingo

$500 ??! (1)

estes_grover (466087) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583258)

Wow...for that kinda of money i could put small desk and computer in a walk-in refrigerator.

It does look pretty cool though ;-)

OLD NEWS. (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583264)

how old is the review, a MONTH or two? the product certainly has been available for that time at least. and other similar products have been around too. now, you can't go out and buy a 3ghz p4, can you? also, if you buy evap. cooling like this it will last longer than your cpu remains current.. so it's not just 500$ out of the window, and it's still cheaper than kryo's equivalent. of course, a true enthuasist could go out and buy a huge used fridge for 500$ and rip the compressor and other diddoo's out from it.

500$ Good Lawd thats alotta money! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583402)

(sorry for the Chris Rock reference)
But at that price, it better generate its own liquid helium! ;)

scary (4, Funny)

Graspee_Leemoor (302316) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583406)

It would have been better to call it the MX-EVA2 (Asuka's) , since the EVA3 is the black one that goes a bit mental and strange.

graspee

their site logo is stolen... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3583415)

The site's "logo" is Hanson, from Nadia: The Secret Blue Water....a kids anime series. He's a gearhead, but still, he's from a kids anime series :-)

You be the judge [cs.mun.ca] . Oops, I'm -terribly- sorry. The site's dude has a little mark for his chin and the eyebrows are thicker. :-) Anyway, here's some info [animetric.com] on the series.

Central Cooling? (3, Interesting)

new500 (128819) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583438)

. . .

At work, people I know are more interested in the water cooling scene, hoping one day for quieter machines. . .

But now, with an external *piped* cooling device on the market, we're just waiting for the advent of building facility CPU cooling ducts, just like the air - con.

Yup, rent new office, bring in desk, plug CPU into cooling duct (obviously with your case and machine coming standard with a nice clean bit of plumbing), connect cat5 (or fiber, come on this is an _ideal_ office :) and go . . .

Final thought, is there any reliability gain to be had from using such a cooler and _not_ overclocking? Okay, I could probably answer that one if I tried, but it's breakfast time and I'm hungry . . .

WHAT do you expect ? (2)

AftanGustur (7715) | more than 12 years ago | (#3583444)

Don't you recognise the big black thing inside ?

It's a freon pressure pump (likely not pumping freon though) and if you ever 'looked-inside' your parents refridgerator with the help of a screwdriver and a few 8-12mm keys, you have already seen one exactly like this. Although this one is likely to function better that your parents frigo after your 'autopsy'

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