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Google Programming Contest Winner

michael posted more than 12 years ago | from the check-out-the-big-brain-on-brad dept.

Programming 229

asqui writes "The First Annual Google Programming Contest, announced about 4 months ago has ended. The winner is Daniel Egnor, a former Microsoft employee. His project converted addresses found in documents to latitude-longitude coordinates and built a two-dimensional index of these coordinates, thereby allowing you to limit your query to a certain radius from a geographical location. Good for difficult questions like "Where is the nearest all-night pizza place that will deliver at this hour?". Unfortunately there is no mention whether this technology is on its way to the google labs yet. There are also details of 5 other excellent project submissions that didn't quite make it."

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france 0 - senegal 1 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616605)

oh yeah

Re:france 0 - senegal 1 (-1, Flamebait)

3.5 stripes (578410) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616619)

Ooh yeah, screw the french.. :)

Not First Post!!! (-1)

CmderTaco (533794) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616607)

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Re:Not First Post!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616629)

You realize that CmdrTaco and his other junkies ONLY read the comments with linux based browsers.
This page widening only affects IE. Posting them will not cause them to go up in arms.

Pestering them on sourceforge and causing a general ruckus is the only way...

Re:Not First Post!!! (-1)

CmderTaco (533794) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616688)

if enough people bitch and complain to him... then maybe he will get the point. Truthfuly, I am tired of posting PWP's, I find them boring anymore, and only get the occasional biter... But I feel obligated to the cause to try to get the cmdr and his collective to fix this vulnerability... Why? because I am tired of seeing "wide pages" if I choose to come here through IE.

So I encourage all who do not like page widening to let CmdrTaco know in his email [mailto] how much you hate Page Widening...

Re:Not First Post!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616700)

No, instead of whining, we just view the articles at +1 and above.
All you are doing is preventing people from seeing the funny trolls and troll fiction with IE.

Sorry, dude. Your crusade is in vain. Just give up. If you don't post PWP, then most other crapflooders won't either. Its old and pointless.

Re:Not First Post!!! (-1)

CmderTaco (533794) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616720)

+1 and above is a bunch of crap... nothing but group think there... the only REAL reason to read Slashdot is to read -1... those posts 9 time out of 10 are either truthfully insightful, or funny...

Re:Not First Post!!! (-1)

negativekarmanow tm (518080) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616805)

That's what he said. You prevent good, decent people using IE from reading at -1, so they miss the good stuff.

Hell, I even considered using mozilla :(

Re:Not First Post!!! (-1)

CmderTaco (533794) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616858)

I would have to say, don't quit using IE because of page widening. Let Rob [mailto] know that you want them to get a work around for this bug. You may say that I am the only one posting them, but I can promise you... I have not posted any PWP's in about a month until yesterday. I use IE myself, so I have to deal with the ramifications of the Page widening myself. Don't think that I am sitting here with Mozilla laughing it up. No, I have to deal with it too... I have Mozilla installed, but I don't use it. It's too damn slow, and it seems to format the pages ever so slightly differently than IE (and I like IE's formatting better)

Re:Not First Post!!! (-1)

CmderTaco (533794) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616885)

Also, don't use mozilla... it's buggy as all hell...

ha ha (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616612)

senegal 1 france 0

An interesting journal discussion... (-1)

CmderTaco (533794) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616618)

Please add your thoughts [slashdot.org]

if i'd only known (2, Interesting)

oogoody (302342) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616620)

they wanted such boring submissions.
The winning idea was cool, but the rest looks
like free development for google rather
than something novel.

Re:if i'd only known (4, Informative)

Indras (515472) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616742)

like free development for google

Let me quote from the homepage of the annual contest:

"Grand Prize

$10,000 in cash

VIP visit to Google Inc. in Mountain View, California

Potentially run your prize-winning code on Google's multi-billion document repository (circumstances permitting)"

Re:if i'd only known (2)

Peyna (14792) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616829)

IIRC they also mentioned something about the potential offer of employment, then again, maybe I was just imagining that.

Re:if i'd only known (1)

kormoc (122955) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616915)

Nope, we thought they *might* offer it, but they never said so

Re:if i'd only known (2)

Peyna (14792) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616985)

If my submission won, I would apply for a job =]

As previously designed by me (1)

oliverthered (187439) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616626)

Here's one [emapsite.co.uk] i wrote earlier.

Dosn't do the document lookup thing, but we were using it for finding the neariest piza on a now defunct e-commerce website.

Re:As previously designed by me (1)

corian (34925) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616692)

click here - Afghanistan data half price.

I suppose those maps are a bit out-of-date now, aren't they

There always out of date (1)

oliverthered (187439) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616738)

It would be tempting to put some sarcastic rebuttal in here.
Get a book on basic qauntum mechanics and it will tell you that your observations are always out-of-date.
What's wrong with Afganistan anyhow, they seemed a nice bunch of people, with a strong religious following before the US regieme ousted there lovley government.

Re:There always out of date (1)

morgajel (568462) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616864)

well, a topilogical map WOULD sorta be outta date-with the mountain buster missles and giant-ass potholes now covering the country...

like it or not, the us millitary did some MAJOR terraforming over there.

pot-holes (1)

oliverthered (187439) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616881)

Pot-holes they should search in there, I here the Afghanistanies like to some a bit of pot now and then!

Re:As previously designed by me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616840)

Me too. We do this on all our
directories [newmediary.com]

Lets join up (1)

oliverthered (187439) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616853)

We could undermine all the original ideas in the world.
Who the hell was judging that thing anyhow, there's geo searches all over the place, and i've done plenty of address parsing code in my time!!!

I see one being implemented soon (5, Interesting)

Masem (1171) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616628)

From the hon. mentions:
Laird Breyer, for his project, Markovian Page Ranking Distributions: Some Theory and Simulations. This project examined various properties of the Markovian process behind Google's PageRank algorithm, and suggested some modifications to take into account the "age" of each link to reduce Pagerank's tendency to bias against newly-created pages.

This may help to defeat the current practice of overloading the PageRank results of a given key word as to point to a given page by having people link to that page with a link containing that keyword, aka "Googlebombing". I do think that the winner is a very interesting and useful project, this latter one will probably be implemented ASAP.

Re:I see one being implemented soon (2)

3.5 stripes (578410) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616652)

Yeah, it's a pity things like this are less exciting, it's a much needed addition, just not as "innovative".

Re:I see one being implemented soon (1)

Webz (210489) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616865)

What does Markovian mean? Of course I tried searching on Google but I found more of its use than its simple "what is" definition.

I sent something into the contest. (4, Funny)

thedanceman (582570) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616633)

But I guess they thought there was no need for -thedanceman- [watchmedance.com] on the google site.

Mod parent up! (1)

Migrant Programmer (19727) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616803)

He's not offtopic, he's getting his google on!

Re:I sent something into the contest. (1)

ttexx (126330) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616889)

HAHAHAHAH..... *sides hurt*

What a great idea (4, Funny)

TedCheshireAcad (311748) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616636)

If only more pizza restaurants in my area had web sites. Soon enough, I won't even have to pick up the phone to make my food come to me! I wonder if the delivery guy will bring the pizza up to me at my computer. Hmm...

Re:What a great idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616664)

Why don't you just have him chew it for you too?

Re:What a great idea (1)

axneck (573097) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616843)

Papa Johns - web ordering. remembers your last order, so getting pizza and breadsticks is roughly 3 clicks and a half hour away.

Re:What a great idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616970)

A lot of pizza chains in the NE already take orders online. I haven't been calling in delivery for over a year now.

good news for open source? (-1, Troll)

tps12 (105590) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616642)

It is great to see open source software such as google finally getting the recognition it deserves. Perhaps some of these algorithms (especially the winning one) can be incorporated into the Linux microkernel. After all, that is the beauty of open source. These features might be what gives Linux that "edge" over Windows that we have all been waiting for.

As an aside, I would love to use the geographical search code myself. In my line of work it would be immensely useful to filter through enormous databases of valid email addresses and select only those from a single area. I think the average 'Net user has a lot to gain from this technology.

Go Google!

Re:good news for open source? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616661)

yeah, putting it into linux would be nice, but you need something like several terabytes of space to hold the index, not to mention the continous processing power needed to do the indexing would be a huge strain on the box.

moron (nt) (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616671)

(nt)

Re:good news for open source? (1)

ignatzMouse (447031) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616681)

How is google open source?

stop modding this up (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616683)

Stop modding this up. Its sarcasm, and it sucks even at that.

Re:good news for open source? (2)

rmohr02 (208447) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616695)

It is great to see open source software such as google
Google's not open source. They support the open source community, but they don't release the code the their indexer. This is all the information that they give out about their code:
PageRank Explained

PageRank relies on the uniquely democratic nature of the web by using its vast link structure as an indicator of an individual page's value. In essence, Google interprets a link from page A to page B as a vote, by page A, for page B. But, Google looks at more than the sheer volume of votes, or links a page receives; it also analyzes the page that casts the vote. Votes cast by pages that are themselves "important" weigh more heavily and help to make other pages "important."

Important, high-quality sites receive a higher PageRank, which Google remembers each time it conducts a search. Of course, important pages mean nothing to you if they don't match your query. So, Google combines PageRank with sophisticated text-matching techniques to find pages that are both important and relevant to your search. Google goes far beyond the number of times a term appears on a page and examines all aspects of the page's content (and the content of the pages linking to it) to determine if it's a good match for your query.

Re:good news for open source? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616891)

dude, you're replying to a troll. why bother?

That was an excellent (-1)

Mao Zedong (467890) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616649)

fight.

Google Search (4, Funny)

iramkumar (199433) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616654)

Search => Osama Bin Laden
Latitude/Longitude => 37/180, Pak
Capture ...

If this would have come out before we could have saved a country ...

Re:Google Search (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616726)

Desi.. eh ?

Wery fuhnny...!

Search = Osama Bin Laden (1)

oliverthered (187439) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616832)

Good job I have all those web pages saying that Bush is Osama Bin Laden, could make a nice killing on this one

Re:saved a country (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3617002)

And which country would that have been? Afghanistan?

If Bill Clinton had decided back in 1999 to remove the Taliban from power "because it's the right thing to do", would you have supported that? Because the Taliban were worse than Milosovec.

But the Taliban were in bed with Osama bin Laden and his gang, who mass murdered thousands. So now leaving them in power is the same as "saving a country".

You're a dumbfuck.

Idea for a Google Query..... (5, Funny)

ReelOddeeo (115880) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616658)

Where is the nearest server in my jurisdiction where I can download....
  • MP3's
  • Warez
  • Pr0n
  • Explosives making instructions
And worst of all....
  • DeCSS
We've got to stop all of the terrorists in the categories mentioned above!

About the "Former Microsoft Employee" bit.. (0, Troll)

cOdEgUru (181536) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616660)

Was that necessary Michael ?

I mean, no one here cares whether he worked for MS. And we certainly dont believe he got better at coding while he worked at MS.

And I am not buying the theory that Daniel Egnor is actually the alter ego of Mr. William Gates. His coding skills died with DOS!

Re:About the "Former Microsoft Employee" bit.. (2, Insightful)

GT_Alias (551463) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616715)

Christ, give it a break. I know there's an anti-anti-Microsoft backlash here, but for fuck's sake all he did was mention the previous employer with absolutely NO bias or connotations. If the guy had been employed at XYZ University, I'm sure it would have still shown up.

Re:About the "Former Microsoft Employee" bit.. (5, Funny)

PrimeEnd (87747) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616810)

If the guy had been employed at XYZ University, I'm sure it would have still shown up.

Actually he was employed by XYZFind Corp. Literally. And it didn't show up.

Re:About the "Former Microsoft Employee" bit.. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616722)

Gates didn't write [halcyon.com] DOS.

Re:About the "Former Microsoft Employee" bit.. (0, Offtopic)

OSgod (323974) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616984)

Interesting write up -- of course Apple had a relativley robust OS that would only crash three or four times a day and would eat itself regularly.

DOS was ugly. It worked and was reliable. It was even much faster than the MAC dreamed of being.

Bill G. didn't write it. He bought it. He grew it from what it started from to the #1 OS in the world for a long time.

Of course, Steve didn't think up the idea behind the original MAC GUI on his own either. He borrowed it from Xerox (note: borrowed it, not illegal but also not licensed, purchased or in any other way paying homage to the creators).

Re:About the "Former Microsoft Employee" bit.. (3, Funny)

Mononoke (88668) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616736)

And we certainly dont believe he got better at coding while he worked at MS.
You've never learned from the mistakes of others?

Being a former M$ employee tells me he learned quite a bit.

Sour grapes (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616787)

Proof that slashbots hate MS because they are successful.

Perhaps if you took the energy you waste in your bitterness against MS and used it for something productive, the HURD may finally be finished after 18 years.

Re:About the "Former Microsoft Employee" bit.. (2)

liquidsin (398151) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616817)

the part about him being a former MS employee was directly quoted from the submitter, not inserted there by michael. I know it's slashdot reader policy to not read the story, but at least read the fucking summary on the front page before flaming away...

Re:About the "Former Microsoft Employee" bit.. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616831)

Dude, ask your doctor to increase your dosage.

"Google Sets" (2)

ralian (127441) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616662)

It really seems to me like the "Google Sets" feature recently made available at Google Labs [google.com] is an implementation of Zhenlei Cai's submission(although the details are extremely sketchy in the Google announcement). If this is true, I wonder why they couldn't implement the winning idea too?

more details (5, Informative)

Alien54 (180860) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616665)

Daniel's project adds the ability to search for web pages within a particular geographic locale to traditional keyword searching. To accomplish this, Daniel converted street addresses found within a large corpus of documents to latitude-longitude-based coordinates using the freely available TIGER [census.gov] and FIPS [nist.gov] data sources, and built a two-dimensional index of these coordinates. Daniel's system provides an interface that allows the user to augment a keyword search with the ability to restrict matches to within a certain radius of a specified address (useful for queries that are difficult to answer using just keyword searching, such as "find me all bookstores near my house"). We selected Daniel's project because it combined an interesting and useful idea with a clean and robust implementation.

This is impressive bit of database manipulation. Somehow I didn't think that all of the datatypes, etc would be so easily parsed.

Although I do recall telephone directories that used to give you results for a specified radius for certain types of businesses

Re:more details (OT) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616796)

Funny you should mention the phone books. I work for an telephone directory publisher. Our online product used to do just that - targeted search results within the radius you specify, or a default radius for a given classification. USED TO. The online yellow pages industry is making a big move towards sites that emulate the look and feel of a printed directory. Sales reps know how to sell it, they say. But what happens is that when you go to use it, you end up "flipping through pages" until you find what you're looking for. It completely negates the advantages of having the info online. Just venting.

Re:more details (3, Insightful)

Matey-O (518004) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616900)

There's code available now that does this for zipcodes. see http://www.zipmath.com/ (And using Mapquest as the black box, street addresses too.) Tieing it into google is a nifty bit o kit tho'.

404 Page Not Found ? (5, Interesting)

bigmouth_strikes (224629) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616667)

I'm surprised that there are so many 404 Page Not Found errors in Google's search results, even on the top hits.

Shouldn't Google automatically check results that a user follows and flag those that cannot be displayed ?

Re:404 Page Not Found ? (3, Insightful)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616702)

#

Thomas Phelps and Robert Wilensky, for their project, Robust Hyperlinks. Traditional hyperlinks are very brittle, in that they are useless if the page later moves to a different URL. This project improves upon traditional hyperlinks by creating a signature of the target page, selecting a set of very rare words that uniquely identify the page, and relying on a search engine query for those rare words to find the page in the future. For example, the Google programming contest can be found using this link.

Re:a set of very rare words (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616950)

a set of very rare words that uniquely identify the page

And on the vastness of the internet, what would those words most likely be?

The URL, of course.

Re:404 Page Not Found ? (3, Informative)

rmohr02 (208447) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616711)

Yea, I've realized that, but then you realize that Google caches most of the web and nearly all of the links produced in search results. So if you get a 404 error you go back and click on the cache link.

Re:404 Page Not Found ? (3, Interesting)

PhilHibbs (4537) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616819)

Google's links are not redirected via their server, and a lot of people would object to them "gathering data on their users' browsing activities". However, automatically checking the top link after each search (or scheduling it for checking) should be possible.

What should they do if a page is unavailable, though? What if it's only down for a few seconds?

Re:404 Page Not Found ? (5, Insightful)

LinuxHam (52232) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616869)

Shouldn't Google automatically check results

I would much prefer to see them improve the ease of browsing their cache. Specifically, if a cached site is 404, then present a cached version of the site where all clicks within the site simply link to the cached version, unlike today where all clicks are native (and therefore lead to more 404's). Granted that wouldn't be of any use for links to dynamic pages, but anything is better than what they have today.

In case it's slashdotted... (-1, Troll)

X86Daddy (446356) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616691)

... or if you don't want to read the article... (wink wink; yes I'm karma whoring), here's the honorable mentions:
  • Zhenlei Cai, for his project, Discovery and Grouping of Semantic Concepts from Web Pages with Applications. This effort processed a corpus of documents and found words and phrases that tend to co-occur within the same document, producing a list of pairs of terms that seem to be closely related (such as "federal law" and "supreme court", or "Bay Area" and "San Francisco").

  • Laird Breyer, for his project, Markovian Page Ranking Distributions: Some Theory and Simulations. This project examined various properties of the Markovian process behind Google's PageRank algorithm, and suggested some modifications to take into account the "age" of each link to reduce Pagerank's tendency to bias against newly-created pages.

  • Thomas Phelps and Robert Wilensky, for their project, Robust Hyperlinks. Traditional hyperlinks are very brittle, in that they are useless if the page later moves to a different URL. This project improves upon traditional hyperlinks by creating a signature of the target page, selecting a set of very rare words that uniquely identify the page, and relying on a search engine query for those rare words to find the page in the future. For example, the Google programming contest can be found using this link [slashdot.org] .

  • Aaron Peapell, for his project, Genetic Search Algorithm. This project used a genetic search algorithm to bias a Pagerank-like algorithm in a query-specific manner, by giving higher weight to links from pages containing all of the query terms.

  • Dan Blandford and Guy Blelloch, for their project, Index Compression Through Document Reordering. This project aims to reduce the space requirements of an inverted index by clustering together documents that are similar before assigning numerical identifiers to the documents (leading to locality in the document identifier sequences within the inverted posting lists for the words in the index, thereby making the sequences more compressible with various types of encoding techniques).

Re:In case it's slashdotted... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616709)

Please mod this pathetic karma whore down asap.

Right, b/c Google, with its millions of daily hits is going to be Slashdotted.

You, sir, are an idiot.

Re:In case it's slashdotted... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616748)

I thought it was funny

winner is... (1, Troll)

room101 (236520) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616694)

The winner is... a former Microsoft employee.
Let me guess: he "rebranded" a piece of software that was under a BSD license?

All kidding aside, sounds pretty neat.

Geographical Approximation (1)

z_gringo (452163) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616703)

I don't think the Pizza delivery analogy will pan out. They can pin it down to a country (usually), and maybe even a region of a country(rarely), but beyond that, it won't be possible to get very close. For example, in the country I work for, the whole class B address shows up as being in the UK, but it is broken up accross each european country, so even if you are in spain or france, it looks like a UK address. I'm sure many companies do the same. Also, the IP addresses from the cable ISP will cover a wide area of several cities or sometimes a whole country.

Re:Geographical Approximation (3, Interesting)

Peyna (14792) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616735)

Sounds like it wasn't doing IP Addresses or hostnames , but addresses found in text on pages. Using enough rules, and a funky algorithm, you could probably get pretty accurate for a number of pages, enough to produce good results on searches at least.

Re:Geographical Approximation (1)

TheGreatGraySkwid (553871) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616784)

You need to spend more time in the Big Blue Room, man. This guy's project uses PHYSICAL addresses, not IP addresses. So if your address is on your webpage as 1337 Lamar Dr., San Dimas CA, he would use publically available geographical data to determine your physical coordinates and the places near you.

Dig it?

[ANNOUNCE] The Jihad is beginning (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616713)

As-If-From: Linus
Date : 1st April, 2001
Subject : [ANNOUNCE] The Jihad is beginning

Dear Linux Followers,
The Time has came, our mortal enemy of windows infamy has been defeated, its bastile of stocks has crumbled, and the god has been merficully enough to send earthquake to the heardquarters of satan himself.

NOW, linux followers, we must move on to fight our true enemy nobody else but the satan himself. THE DEVIL! It has got to go. It must die. I'm proclaiming the holy jihad against BSD.

Whoever is using FreeBSD, NetBSD, or OpenBSD is your enemy. Estrange them.

I'm in talk with Afghanistan Taliban (of buddha fame destroyers) they will help us anihilate BSD mascots! Linux mascots must prevail!!!

All you base are belong to us!!!!!!!!!! [*]

Linus,
[*] this is what "World Domination, Fast!" has been deprecicated by.

Not earth shattering, but useful (2, Informative)

f00zbll (526151) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616732)

Credit to the guy for thinking of it. It could save a person the hassle of looking up all the address in mapquest. I've never had the need to do such a search on google, since it's easier to just do a yellowpage search. Most yellow page sites like superpages and switchboard already provide that kind of functionality. Google's directory search doesn't have search by distance yet, but I'm guessing it will be added in the future. They kinda have to considering the other directory sites have those features.

Service already exists (2)

khendron (225184) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616734)

There is already a service like this at www.lasoo.com [lasoo.com] This service lets you enter an address and a business type, and will find all instances of that business within a certain radius of the address.

Last time I used Lasoo was on Mother's Day, to find the closet florist to my mom's house.

Nice (3, Interesting)

Mr_Silver (213637) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616746)

Whilst I'm very impressed with the winner the entry "Robust Hyperlinks" is something that do like a lot.

What would be cool, would be the option to right click on the hyperlink and have the option "Find alternative location".

Or even cooler, have IE (or your favourite browser) on putting up the 404 message have a hyperlink which does the same. Hell, easy enough to do with apache.

Re:Nice (1)

wizman (116087) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616876)

On the Apache thing - I don't think most content providers would like to provide a "way out". They rather provide links within to keep them in their site.

Would be a nice addition to the "google toolbar" though.

Re:Nice (1)

sgtsanity (568914) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616980)

It would also work quite well for google whacking.

A post for the ages. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616757)

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Funny. (1)

Byteme (6617) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616761)

I was looking for a similar tool yesterday when I was doing research for low power FM transmitter placement. I have a street address for the tower and was looking for an easy (or more accurate, as I am not an adept map reader) tool rather than looking at the USGS maps.

I knew I should have patented it... (2)

Usquebaugh (230216) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616781)

I was thinking about doing exactly the same thing, a common thought?

But the idea of using it just to find business within a certain radius is very limited thinking.

Mobile phones will soon be broadcasting their position. You want interactive guided tours of a city? How about playing full size monopoly? Driving directions? Any sign you currently see could be removed and replaced with a virtual sign? Any number of VR worlds played out in meat space? etc etc

I think that the ability to automatically tell someone where you are will prove to be a boon.

Kudos to the developer for carrying through, rather than my lazy ass postulating :-)

runner up (2)

gnugnugnu (178215) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616786)

the runner up entry


Zhenlei Cai, for his project, Discovery and Grouping of Semantic Concepts from Web Pages with Applications. This effort processed a corpus of documents and found words and phrases that tend to co-occur within the same document, producing a list of pairs of terms that seem to be closely related (such as "federal law" and "supreme court", or "Bay Area" and "San Francisco").


sounds a lot like Google sets [google.com]


Robust Hyperlinks has to be my favourite.

hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616794)

hmmmm sounds like to me Street and Trips with more URLS

NetGeo (5, Informative)

*xpenguin* (306001) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616800)

There's a public database called NetGeo [caida.org] which will convert IP addresses to latitude and longitude locations. I created a script called IP-Atlas [xpenguin.com] to get a visual location of the lat and lon coords.

Re:NetGeo: Actually called NeoGeo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616871)

Ahem... I think you mean "NeoGeo".

This is a "36-bit" video game system that came out in the early 90's. It was basically SNK's arcade engine put into a small box with controllers. It was pretty cool, except that was extremely expensive and the games cost anywhere from $80 to $300. Funny, though, I recently saw a ./ post that stated that the NeoGeo is still alive and kicking.

Its interesting that SNK has spent time developing a public database for the system. I didn't even know you could get internet functionality with it! Does anyone have this system, who could maybe provide a review?

oh boy geocoding and buffer zones invented! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616820)

WOW! Someone finally someone had a break through and invented geocoding and buffers! AMAZING! I guess those of us in the GIS profession have been imagining the address matching and buffer zones all this time!

This is an interesting topic but well studied (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616821)

His approach may have some novelty (in the technique for estimating location) but location dependent queries have been studied for some time now. Location dependent queries assume that you know where the machine posing the query and the results of the query are geographically located.

How about...? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616824)

Something really useful, like regexp searches?

Some might think.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616856)

..a certain Slashdot editor is trolling, what with the 'former Microsoft employee' bit, but I've discovered his secret plot.

You see, we've long known that Microsoft, while shitting on the entire industry, treats their programmers well. Though their operating systems may be riddled with bugs and security flaws of all sorts, look at their applications. They tend to be the epitome of quality software.

Could they be ignoring their operating systems because they've already got an iron grip on the desktop market? That they wish to achieve dominance over applications of all kinds as well? Whatever the cause may be, it matters little.

We need volunteers. Programmers who would dare to make the ultimate sacrifice - to be delegated into the ranks of the damned, into the status of.. manager.

These programmers turned managers shall be hired by Microsoft. Once there, they shall become.. Pointy Haired Bosses.

Microsoft won't have a single programmer left within a month!

already done (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616862)

doesn't this site [www.citysearch] do it already? pick a particular geographic location and a radius, and find yellowpage/website data within that radius. the searching interface is clunky but that seems like the same thing that this guy is doing. some of their returns are clunky also - i.e. you type in "california pizza kitchen" on their los angeles site and you get some company that makes vegeterian food - but sure enough, they have an address listed within the radius, and they also supply food to CPK.

it seems to me that the problem is not being able to cross-reference addresses pulled from sites with the user's geographic location, but in the quality of data retrieved from the website to be displayed. if you search for "pizza" x kilometers from your location, parsing any address pulled from sites, you don't really know whether it happens to be a local pizza company, or some kid writing about how tasty his pizza was in his weblog.

Re:already done (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616875)

whoops. citysearch.com [citysearch.com] .

Cached Longitude and Latitude (1, Troll)

shawnmelliott (515892) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616877)

Does this mean that when the time comes to leave this planet and move to Mars that we can still visit our favorite places via Google's Cache?

Recommendation for Slashdot Poll (-1)

CmderTaco (533794) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616879)

Should Slashdot develop a work around to fix Page Widening?
[]Yes
[]No
[]Page wha???
[]Let CowboyKneel do it

Re:Recommendation for Slashdot Poll (0, Troll)

forged (206127) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616901)

[X]No

Let the IE lusers suffer !

Oh btw france lost vs. senegal. shame.

answers.google.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616886)

I tried to submit this a couple of times, but it was rejected. Google has in beta a service known as "google answers" [google.com] . Pay google 50c for a listing fee, then post a question you want answered by google users. Min price for a question is $4, and google gets 1$ of that. Max price for a question is $50 IIRC.

Lots of fun looking at all the questions, and answers. eg one of them was asking for pictures of duck bottoms [google.com] , and another asked for the meaning of life [google.com] valued at a pathetic $4.

This has already been posted to infoanarchy.org [infoanarchy.org] and kuro5hin.org [kuro5hin.org] . I thought slashdot would have picked it up, but haven't so far.

More uses (5, Funny)

parad0x01 (549533) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616902)

Search => Nearest horny drunk college girl
Results: Apt 2D

Wanna bet? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3616931)

Want to bet that the average submission from a Free Software fanatic focused on things like limiting searches to sites run on Linux, while the average submission from people without such political leanings was more concerned with real world issues?

locatity of businesses and services (1)

mattbland (260913) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616945)

just had an idea for how to implement this using meta tags. I should probably submit it to the w3c if no-one else has already...

have a new meta tag class for "location" which would include the GPS (or long/lat, etc.) co-ordinates for the business, etc. along with human readable country, such as UK, FR, NL, US, NL, etc. and region.

then have another tag for how far the service provider/company does business for with rules for excluding and including areas.

so if a copmany operates, i.e. delivers, within a 3 mile radius then a search engine will know. if they operate in their local state/county it will know. if it operates regionally such as Europe wide or Globally it would be easy to locate a provider of goods and services which will be able to help. The exclusions could cover things like states which the product is deemed illegal or that the merchant doesn't wish to do business with.

Of course you'd need to let the search tools know where abouts you are in order to refine the results. But this needn't be the source of any privacy issues as the engine could submit a complete set of results and be filtered out at the client end dynamically if the user is paranoid.

what do you think?

Mb

watch out, google. (2)

Sarin (112173) | more than 12 years ago | (#3616952)

"Potentially run your prize-winning code on Google's multi-billion document repository (circumstances permitting)"

so as a former microsoft employee he's going to run his code on the google servers.
Nah, this one's too easy!
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