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Mobile Gaming with BREW

michael posted more than 12 years ago | from the don't-brew-and-drive dept.

Handhelds 164

KeelSpawn writes "For the most of us who are bored with playing that game called "Snake" -- chasing a black dot with a string of lines -- that likely came standard with your cell phone, here's some interesting news. Try a round of golf instead, or a combat game called "Gladiator." Soon, even the ever popular "Dungeons & Dragons". All those will be playable through cellphones, wirelessly."

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Can it play (0, Funny)

Genghis Troll (158585) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625235)

pocket pool?

Re:Can it play (-1)

L.Torvalds (548450) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625242)

Linux can do that. Oh yes.

Linux is more then just another OS.

Linux is the way for hax0rz to sex0r each other.

Oh yes

Re:Can it play (-1)

ElCagado (575762) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625279)

You became a thrill seeker. kill for a thrill. thrill seeker comes from all walks of life. A home where the parents are too busy to show respect. respect. respect. [yeah!]

First Post? (-1)

Drunken Coward (574991) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625240)

I'm not drunk, yet. Plzfx, thanks!

Re:First Post? (-1)

ElCagado (575762) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625319)

I only kill to know I'm alive. So what?

Re:First Post? (-1)

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (537317) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625422)

In all the people you killed, who had the largest pants?

Re:First Post? (-1)

ElCagado (575762) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625495)

syd barret

brew is obsolete (-1)

jeremyf (167087) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625243)

BREW is obsolete, everyone is using java or symbian or proprietary systems. More phones use PalmOS or PPC (in the works) than BREW.


Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625254)

This is very true. BREW is used on very few phones, and PalmOS is proliferating. Not to mention proprietary OSs from Motrola, Nokia, etc.


BalkanBoy (201243) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625518)

Yes, BREW's used (or can be) 'only' on umm, let's see every phone with a CDMA chip on it... Did I also mention Verizon Wireless and Sprint PCS are the biggest CDMA wireless carriers in the USA as well? So you see, it's not as dark as it seems for BREW. Plus, they already have a JVM that works on top of BREW - it's called Microchai from HP and there are some more in the works...

Re:brew is obsolete (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625272)

Symbian has wider acceptance in the marketplace, but I don't think it has a toehold yet. Palm OS is on a few models of cell phones. BREW is certainly ubiquitous, but I would heartily admit that it is obsolete and will soon be overtaken by systems targeted at this application.

Re:brew is obsolete (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625310)


Is that like the Symbian orgasm machine that those chicks use on those porno sites?

Re:brew is obsolete (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625655)

Batteries last longer with Symbian.

Bad things BREWing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625314)

Be warned, BREW is a joint venture between Microsoft & Qualcomm. I fear this is the mechanism by which M$ locks phones in to Microsoft back-end services.Forget how M$ screwed Netscape - this is their real opportunity.

Brew might be obsolete (when compared with Symbian & Java), but the fact remains that Qualcomm is the biggest phone chip player in the USA. Their chipset includes Snaptrack GPS support (probably the only cellphone GPS solution worth anything for 911 location), so soon we might see BREW-based location-aware phone services all locked in to M$.

I can't wait!

Re:brew is obsolete (-1)

ElCagado (575762) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625328)

killing time is appropriate to make a mess and fuck all the rest. we say: so what?

What about nethack? (1)

The FooMiester (466716) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625246)

Will the world's most ported game be ported to the cellphone? I can't imagine a cellphone ascention. And since you'd only have the numberpad, I guess it would be hard to actually do anyhting except walk around the dungeon.

I guess you could use one of the keys as an option key to allow you to scroll thru the commands(apply, . , close, tAkeitalloff, ., Call), and you could just go up and down selecting inventory.

Just a thought

Begin Secret Code:

Re:What about nethack? (-1)

ElCagado (575762) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625331)

I wanna know what is right. I'll kill them all if I like. I am a time bomb inside. No listens to reason and I am ready to fight. I am ready to fight. So what?

Re:What about nethack? (-1)

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (537317) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625434)

Hello, it's me again. I just want you to know that you look kinda cute in this diaper.

What about solitaire? (1)

nullard (541520) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625568)

Truthfully, I'd rather have solitaire. That's what I used my PDA for. Since Sprint service in my area is pretty bad, I'm out of range a lot. If I've got a couple of minutes to kill and I'm out of range anyway, I might as well play something that does not require much time or thought. The game should save state between invocations so that it could be stopped and restarted at any time. I've played solitaire on a calculator before, so I know that it can be implemented using just a few keys for input, unlike NetHack.

What's the point? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625256)

Most of these cellphone games are just crap [] .

Now if ... (2)

ProfMoriarty (518631) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625258)

Sony could give us a port of Everquest ... :)

Re:Now if ... (2)

ByteHog (247706) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625536)

Oh great. We do NOT need people playing everquest while driving, instead of just talking.

fantastic! (2)

TheQuantumShift (175338) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625260)

Games on cell phones! I truly have no need of a life whatsover now. Of course not having a life would leave me no reason for a cell phone. Then again most people with cell phones... Hmm. I have no life and want to be able to play even the most mind numbing, ugly ass games wherever I go. Think I'll get me a PDA... Yeah, thats worth $250...

Advanced Games on Cellphones (1)

ClimberTech (580264) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625261)

I read somewhere that these kind of things have been available in Japan for a while, ie: 3d games and multiplayer cell phone games.

I think they're available on the NTT DoCoMo phones, there's information at

Re:Advanced Games on Cellphones (1)

Anne Thwacks (531696) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625666)

Advanced? Only retards would accept the price terms.

We have it here in the UK. At 10p per message, (ie per turn) its cheaper to buy a dedicated games machine than play a single game. Unless you are paying your phone bills with stolen credit cards, it makes no sense at all.

samurai romanesque (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625265)

One of the more popular games here in Japan is called samurai romanesque from Dwango. check it out if you want to have a taste of thing to come:

Also if you would like to develop java applications check out Zentek's i-jade emulators: ad.html

still playing your phone ? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625270)


Sigh...'s editing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625273)

Quoth the article: "Although users could care less about which computer languages power their cell phone games, analysts are watching for technologies such as BREW to spawn increasingly sophisticated diversions as the wireless infrastructure becomes more robust."

"Could care less"? And this is on CNN's website? For shame, for shame.

You'll care (2)

bildstorm (129924) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625425)

You'll definitely care if your favourite app isn't run on your device. BREW isn't run on a whole heck of a lot, though in the US, Verizon seems to be a big fan.

Personally, I'm a big fan of J2ME, though no one seems to have figured out how to make money selling those games. I think the coolest stuff will end up on i-Mode for a while, since AT&T's mMode allows for billing by bandwidth usage.

Re:You'll care (2)

Cato (8296) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625746)

GPRS also allows for billing by bandwidth usage - the real innovation in NTT DoCoMo's i-mode was the business model (NTT only taking 9% of total revenues vs 50% in Europe), which stimulated a lot of new content providers. Official providers bill based on content, via NTT. (I think CDMA2000 1x will also bill by bandwidth used, but it depends on the operator).

Other innovations that helped i-mode include the end-to-end design (handset, protocols, infrastructure, billing, business model, content selection and marketing all from a single company) - like the Macintosh, the result is an easy to use and attractive product, although quite proprietary. Another key factor is that many Japanese commuters spend 2 to 4 hours per day on overground trains, making i-mode ideal for killing time. There is probably also some truth in the idea that PCs and fixed line Internet didn't take off so fast in Japan, so i-mode phones were filling a gap, and also fitted into smaller Japanese apartments.

Some of these factors can be replicated in the US and Europe - I'm interested in trying something that actually works consistently and has usable and interesting content (i.e. nothing like WAP...).

billed by the minute, of course (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625276)

Dungeons and Dragons(and other games) billed by the minute?(as most WAP/web-browsing is)

(runs off to go buy wireless provider stock)


Stay still with brew (2)

corebreech (469871) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625280)

Mobile whatever is just plain bad. It's best to sit in a stationary position and pretend that you don't work for a company that thinks entry-level programmers should be confined to the header files.

I worked at such a company, and now I'm insane.

I tried to #include "beer.h", and it #included "coconut-strawberry-ring-dings.h"

Now I have an attorney.

I get it now! (1)

Joe Tie. (567096) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625286)

Soon, even the ever popular "Dungeons & Dragons"

I thought the lack of Neverwinter builder tools for Linux and Mac was odd, but obviously attention is being focused on a hush hush port of Neverwinter to the cellphone. All joking aside, couldn't you see this happening at a board meeting?

"So, you want to allocate resources to these non windows thingamagigs, like that commie operating system and that apple thing? It'd never work, focus on the super popular cellphone gaming comunity!"

Gotta upgrade your phone... (3, Informative)

emag (4640) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625288)

No one's yet pointed out that in order to even play these games, you need a BREW-enabled phone. Verizon's just started coming out with them according to the article, and there's no mention of any other US carrier offering them.

Not to mention that this usually locks you into another contract with substantial penalties for early withdrawal. I think I'll stick with snake if I feel the need to play a game on my cellphone. Or just stick with my PDA for games, especially when I'm stuck on an airplane.

Sorry, but i must correct you (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625392)

Snake should not be called snake but rather NIBBLES. The original game the first of its kind was made by Bill Gates in QBasic. Duh! Bill should sue all these open source companies for ripping off Microsoft. Everyone knows these facts, along with the fact that Bill Gates is the best programmer of all time!

-Bill Gat.....err!.....Gables

Re:Gotta upgrade your phone... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625516)

what about J2ME? Screw Brew! Check it out at

Japan (1)

lycias (515562) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625292)

Here in Japan we've had a bunch of cell-phone games, though most of them single-player, for years.

Yet another way to gouge customers (2)

Amoeba (55277) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625293)

Ya know, it's not like these games will be free. How much you wanna bet that, in addition to the "pay-per-play" and other types of creative fees, you'll also be using up your minutes? Talk about a great way to increase your profi... Oooh! Dungeons & Dragons!

Re:Yet another way to gouge customers (1)

BalkanBoy (201243) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625531)

Doesn't Palm offer some sort of unlimited wireless (bandwidth) usage service in many areas with their latest wireless PDA? That should open the door for wireless games off your PDA, dont you think? Except that it doesn't run on BREW, but on PalmOS, but nevertheless, the platform should not matter when it comes to multiplayer games anyway - it should be possible to do it crossplatform, whether running on BREW , J2ME or Palm...

PureVis is another entry in this field (1)

Allen Varney (449382) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625297)

Bunches of cellphone game makers have gone under (e.g., Unplugged Games,, and the rest have been treading water by selling their backend technology. Telecom companies are understandably risk-averse right now (something about laying off a quarter or more of your staff will do that), and they haven't wanted to hear about games.

One company still hanging in there, waiting for the drought to end, is PureVis [] . They do a completely visual programming environment that was originally intended for easy production of online games. They started out as; the name change is a sign of the times.

MAME on cell phones would be nice (2)

antdude (79039) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625302)

Simple graphics and fun games. :)

You mean like the Nokia 9210/9290? (2, Informative)

Subcarrier (262294) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625650)

MAME on cell phones would be nice

Here it is: []

Probably won't be long before it's available for other Symbian phones as well, like the Nokia 7650 or Ericssony P800.

Re:You mean like the Nokia 9210/9290? (2)

antdude (79039) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625699)

Wow! And it has the original sound and/or music?

Macromedia Flash for games on devices (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625315)

I was at a conference last week and saw Macromedia Flash on many phones, PDAs and smartphones. It's pretty easy to develop content with Macromedia Flash, so making games looks easy too. Here is a site with lots of games. []

Plagiarism (1, Redundant)

Thomas M Hughes (463951) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625316)

Quote: "Plagiarism is using others' ideas and words without clearly acknowledging the source of that information."


The writeup for this story was, word for word, lifted from the story on CNN, without a single reference made to CNN. Slashdot is very sensitive to such things as copyright (even when it does not agree with them). The submitter should know better that, and the editors should as well. It is suggested that a direct reference to where the quote was lifted be added to this story writeup.

Re:Plagiarism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625368)

Mod the parent up!

I was hoping someone would catch this. It is a verbatim copy of the CNN lead in for their article [] . I don't really blame the Slashdot editors (maybe they don't read every single article on, however it would probably be wise of the Slashdot editors to amend the story to give credit to (maybe take away KeelSpawn's karma for being a bad little monkey), or to simply replace the current submission.

Re:Plagiarism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625404)

without a single reference made to CNN

Except for the link to them.

Re:Plagiarism (-1)

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (537317) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625446)

You must be new to slashdot. This is called a troll. Janitors have been trolled. It rarely happens in front page stories, but almost all +5 comment are direct cut n' past from usenet. You will get used to it.

why modded down? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625503)

please. stop. read. think. don't give -1 because you don't believe in copyright rules. THANX

Money Making? (3, Insightful)

Peridriga (308995) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625318)

I'm shocked to hear that no company has stepped up fill the wireless void in gambling...

With so much money there I'm shocked no one has done it...

With like 10 cents a bet over the phone you could rake in some money.

btw... I just patented that idea :-)

nnonononon NO DAMNIT (1, Troll)

Com2Kid (142006) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625321)


Cellphones == for TALKING on, perferably NOT in the middle of F*cking finals.

I swear. The damn things should be banned. Do you realize that people have ran into SCHOOL BUSES while talking on those things? HOW THE FUCKING HELL do you NOT notice a SCHOOL BUS?


Once again, cell phones are for TALKING on,

spending $300 on one of the fuckers is an immense move of stupididy.

Yeesh. buy a PDA (though with the recent story on PDA reliability I could see why you would be tempted not to. ^_^ ) for about the same price. Bigger screen, faster proccesor, more memory.

Then choose whatever cell phone plan gives you a free phone.

I actualy have a problem in that my AT

well lets see I haven't actualy USED the accursed thing in like 4 months;

so yah, 70 minutes should last me until sometime SLIGHTLY after I die.

Which means it is a serious pain in the ass to have to spend $20 every 3 months just on the off chance that Something Bad Might Happen to me and I may need to use my cellphone to Call Someone To Save My Ass.

As I said, a royal pain.

(and no I am not antisocial, I just perfer to talk to people IN PERSON. You know, real life? Bleh. Cell phones are evil, I _HATE_ the damn f*cking things, HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE them.


Re:nnonononon NO DAMNIT (2)

Com2Kid (142006) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625329)

Where the hell did the rest of my post go?

Supposed to be

I actualy have a problem in that my AT


well lets see I haven't actualy USED the accursed thing in like 4 months;

so yah, 70 minutes should last me until sometime SLIGHTLY after I die.

and so forth

ATTN MODS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625330)

useless rant..... do not mod up... see it for what it is

Re:nnonononon NO DAMNIT (2)

Com2Kid (142006) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625335)

::looks around:: Why is /. freaking out cuz of an amphersand?


try this again

I actualy have a problem in that my ATT prepaid phone expires minutes after 3 months. Additionaly I have to purchase minutes in $20 increments, which amounts to about 70 minutes of talk time.

Which will last me;


well lets see I haven't actualy USED the accursed thing in like 4 months;

so yah, 70 minutes should last me until sometime SLIGHTLY after I die.

and so forth

Re:nnonononon NO DAMNIT (2)

Peridriga (308995) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625353)

Because the ampersand itself it a HTML and perl marking for coding purposes...

Yes Stupid choice for a charecter but, ya gotta live with it...

For future reference... to write an ampersand write

Information Here []

Re:nnonononon NO DAMNIT (1)

Com2Kid (142006) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625579)

Because the ampersand itself it a HTML and perl marking for coding purposes...

Yes Stupid choice for a charecter but, ya gotta live with it...

For future reference... to write an ampersand write


Weird thanks, I always thought that I only had to be careful of stuff in between brackets. ^_^

Of course now with half an assed brain I realize my mistake, it is what it seen when Unicode characters are based into a textbox and then returned by the server (Japanese text with Google for instance)


Re:nnonononon NO DAMNIT (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625583)

This is the perfect day. You got a mod point for telling someone the code for an ampersand.

Re:nnonononon NO DAMNIT (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625401)

Try &


Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625512)


Re:nnonononon NO DAMNIT (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625515)

And computers are for computing? "Do not play games on them! Only use them to perform calculations!" Right? You're a true visionary!

Re:nnonononon NO DAMNIT (2)

Com2Kid (142006) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625590)

And computers are for computing? "Do not play games on them! Only use them to perform calculations!" Right? You're a true visionary!

Hey jackass, guess what, that is what they ARE being used for.

It just so happens to be faster and easier to have a computer keep track of all of the various numbers in a DnD game and do the math for them then it is to do it by hand.

The pretty little graphics that accompy everything are just extra frills.

Same with board games or math or such, the computre is used as an AID to something else.

Eventualy they spread out into broad based wide spectrum multipurpose tools; ok great; now we have computers, and hopefuly soon they will be able to make breakfast (err, or maybe hopefuly not!)

But a CellPHONE is exactly that, A SPECIALIZED TOOL DESIGNED FOR ONE PURPOSE Shoving more features into it then it was originaly designed for ends up:

A: Driving your price up higher then if you redesigned a tool from the ground up for the desired purposes

B: Makes the user interface suck


C: Reduces overall maximum product potential

Which all SUCK.

People pay HUNDREDS of dollars for a cell phone with VERY BASIC and low level PDA functions when it would be easier to get a small cheapish PDA and glue a cheap cellphone on to the back of it (not over the battery casing!) and have all of your problems solved at once.

But noooo, people have to continue to act STUPID.

Not to mention that now I will have to put up with some ASSHOLE having even MORE bleeps and bloops going from their phones during class.

May I give a quick Amen to the proffesors out there who auto-boot anybody STUPID enough to bring a cellphone into class?

Like of them said;

"You ever heard the expression 'Treat every gun like a loaded gun'? Well I have the same rule of cellphones, 'treat every cell phone like it is on'. No cellphone is ever really off, so to prevent any troules just do not bring them into my classroom at all."

Love that policy.

Re:nnonononon NO DAMNIT (2)

Peridriga (308995) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625676)

You must remember that back in the day computers where "A SPECIALIZED TOOL DESIGNED FOR ONE PURPOSE ", being a calculator....

Becareful of your statments... not everything fits into the boxes you draw for them.

Homebrew Programs? (1)

ianpatt (52996) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625324)

This might be a nice platform to make homebrew games on, but it looks like the fees required could be prohibitive for non-commercial programmers:
  • $400 - fee for 100 authentications with VeriSign, required for becoming an "Authenticated Developer," which you need to do to obtain a ClassID and get the rest of the developer tools.
  • $1500 - cost of ARM BREW Builder, required to build your applet for a phone
  • $unknown - Microsoft Visual Studio
The SDK is free to download, so there's something to work with. Anyone know any free ways to do this? More developer info here: []

I wish... (-1)

ElCagado (575762) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625338)

I had Jessie's girl. Why can't I find a woman like that?

Re:I wish... (-1)

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (537317) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625462)

Because you don't have enough money.

P.S. Yes, I'm stalking you.

Dungeons & Dragons: Good excuse (3, Funny)

MavEtJu (241979) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625340)

Now I'll have a good excuse why I didn't answer my mobile[*]: I was too busy fighting the dragon to get that +5/+5 blessed rustproof platinum longsword.

[*] I don't have a mobile in real life, but it was too tempting not to post this.

Lets look at the definition of those two words! (-1)

L.Torvalds (548450) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625352)

1 A often vulgar : BUTTOCKS -- often used in emphatic reference to a specific person b often vulgar : ANUS

1 : to commit piracy on
2 : to take or appropriate by piracy : as a : to reproduce without authorization especially in infringement of copyright b : to lure away from another employer by offers of betterment
intransitive senses : to commit or practice piracy

So do you now see why being an ASS PIRATE is bad?

What about J2ME (1)

welshdave (560689) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625341)

Games on phones (and more) that you can download have been around for a while. Sun's J2ME [] is implemented on quite a few mobile phones. I've got a Siemens SL45i [] that runs J2ME applications (not only games) pretty well. If you want a look at the sort of stuff available for these phones try [] and Micro Java [] .

conspiracy theory (3, Insightful)

Jucius Maximus (229128) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625345)

Some people say that these games appear on your cellphones so you will wear out the buttons and have to buy new phones.

Re:conspiracy theory (-1)

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (537317) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625468)

Are you insinuating that if I masturbate too much, my penis will fall off?

No Shit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625362)

"Playable through cellphones, wirelessly"

Sherlock.. Cellphones wireless, really? You have got to be kidding me!

What the fuck...leeching news from elsewhere???? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625374)

You people fucking suck. For the past year, all I have seen is news leeched from other sources and re branded as 'your own'. Why the fuck should anyone pay for this shitty 'service'? News for nerds? More like 'news for plagiarists'. Pieces of leeching loser garbage. Here you go assholes: me s.ap/index.html

quote, unquote

Re:What the fuck...leeching news from elsewhere??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625572)

Thanks for the link but it's already linked to - FROM THE ARTICLE. :)

Cellphone games: ruins productivity (1)

GoatPigSheep (525460) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625379)

As a student I have noticed a disturbing trend among my peers. I would say that at least 75% of them have cell phones. I often notice in class that many people are playing 'snake' and other cell phone games in class instead of paying attention. Although we would find it odd if someone brought a gameboy to class and began playing it while the teacher was explaining something, nobody seems to mind if someone is playing 'snake' on their cell phone. Personally I find these games to be academically destructive.

With the latest advances in cell phones, where they are quickly reaching PDA level, I believe it is time to ban their use in schools. Games like snake cause extreme academic decline. Cell phones are often used to cheat in class. Everyone forgets to turn them off (and games like snake ENCOURAGE people to leave them on!). Most institutions have sufficiant amounts of pay phones that people do not need cell phones. It baffles me why they are allowed in schools in the first place. Silly games like snake are just another reason why they should not be allowed.

Even more destructive (2)

dstone (191334) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625427)

nobody seems to mind if someone is playing 'snake' on their cell phone ... Games like snake cause extreme academic decline.

No. It's too late. I have to inform you that academia has already declined beyond hope. And it has been due to an even more harmful, destructive habit by students in lecture halls over the past century. It's far more widespread than phone games, and the economies of the situation ensure that it always will be. The tools of destruction? A blank pad of paper, a pencil, and the desire to draw amusing and unrelated pictures while the professor is talking. Horrible thing, that. My informal observations indicate that the deadly paper/pencil/imagination combination has even greater penetration rates in the student market than mobile phones. The numbers approach 100% and show little sign of ever declining. Besides, I find the swooping and jerking motions of doodling to be far more offensive and distracting than the relatively restrained thumb movements of playing Snake.

Re:Cellphone games: ruins productivity (2)

Peridriga (308995) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625660)

And all of the students that didn't have cell phones in class that used to be playing snake would now (thanks to banning them, in your dreamworld) would now be talking with their friends, doodling, fiddling with other crap, or simply sleeping.

Cell phones aren't the cause of academic decline, it's apathy...

Oh btw... I carry my cell phone on me 24/7... Including class. Ya know what I do, I put it on silent... So I can play snake if I wish and if someone calls, my phone still won't make a peep.

Ya know what my phone can do? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625399)

its got the best feature... I can call people up... and talk to them.

Snake (1)

mu_wtfo (224511) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625408)

Hey, I enjoyed Snake, it was fun. Actually, I'm sure it still is, I just need to find my old Nokia to play it. Now "Brick Attack", the "breakout" clone that came with my Kyocera - blecchh. Not nearly as good. Ah, well.

expansion for cellphones? (1)

KeelSpawn (575726) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625415)

i'm wondering if we would ever expand cellphones to a point where there would be expansion slots for us to like for example, turning our cellphone into a extream mobile gaming device (like with a bigger screen, connection, sounds, graphics, etc.) i mean a pda can do that already, i think a cellphone is certainly getting there.. =)

Who cares? I do. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625421)

Do those who make it care?

Do those who will empty-minded buy it care?

Do I, running Linux and happy as a clam, care about it, since I'd probably buy a PS2 + Linux Kit?

Well, I care. It's a curiosity. The other day I saw this female elephant giving birth, kinda beautiful...

Another beer, please... Ah, Links pre 6, wow, just downloaded pre3!

Don't these guys know about girls?

3d gaming on cell-phones (4, Interesting)

YeeHaW_Jelte (451855) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625444)

Check these guys,, they produce an engine for 3d-gaming on cellphones and pda's.

Re:3d gaming on cell-phones (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625520)

WOW!! That is *AWESOME*!!!!!


Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625525)

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but does it run on Linux? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625566)

But does it run on Linux? :)

Re:but does it run on Linux? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625595)

"Fathammer, which makes a 3D engine that can be customized for use in different games, makes versions for Linux and Pocket PC as well as Symbian OS, and the company also fine-tunes the versions for different hardware platforms.

"We have to put our eggs in all of the baskets," said Ville Vaten, Fathammer project manager"

Source: []

BREW is just one platform among many (2)

Burnon (19653) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625481)

Wow, that article sure was light on detail. It read like someone trying to sell the casual reader on how cool BREW is going to be, casually ignoring the fact that every handset vendor on the face of the earth is shooting for the same market with their own technologies. The article mentioned that Motorola was competing with BREW on Java support, as if no other vendors have Java-enabled hansets (not even remotely true). Check out this link [] , found at the top of a Google search on "Java-enabled phone", for a list of a bunch of Java-enabled phones. The downloads [] page there lists a whole bunch of Java-based games for handsets.

Last time I looked at the public info on BREW (from the downloadable API documentation), it didn't look like it had any world-beating features to enable gaming. From the article, you'd think that BREW had the inside track on becoming the game development platform of choice for mobile phones.

IMHO, BREW looks like an awfully lightweight, low-feature application-development toolkit, appropriate to use in a low-memory handset. There's nothing here that Nokia isn't offering with their Series 60 [] platform, or that any of the other big players aren't doing with their own proprietary toolkits, I would expect.

The trick is that BREW has had a Java virtual machine ported to it, and game developers will develop to THAT, not to anything that is really BREW-specific, or even really enabled by BREW. But every handset vendor is doing the same thing with their own toolkit.

Verizon to Offer Java On Top of BREW (2)

Kerg (71582) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625494)

WirelessWeek: "Until recently, it seemed as if Verizon Wireless had turned up its nose at Java in favor of BREW. But the carrier has changed its attitude and recently confirmed it plans to offer Java-based applications, which it expects to hit the market in early 2003.

Ironically, the word comes as Verizon started giving its customers a sip of BREW, Qualcomm's binary runtime environment for wireless. The company began selling BREW applications to its 2G customers in San Diego in the first quarter as part of the first phase of a nationwide BREW deployment."

Read the rest here:
Verizon's Change of Heart []

Dungeons and Dragons? (1)

AndyChrist (161262) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625499)

How would D&D be the same without being in a room full of your fellow dorks, playing with brightly colored funny shaped dice, and possibly wearing costumes? How can a cell phone provide that?

Nevermind that you could probably play it over the phone ANYWAY...

Lagging, because we were ahead (3, Insightful)

AndyChrist (161262) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625502)

" America lags partly because only half of its adult population has cell phones, compared to 65 percent in Japan and 70 percent in Taiwan and Hong Kong. "

Most likely because unlike many countries, the land-line phone system in the US does not suck. AT&T at it's worst was never the pain in the ass that NTT is/was.

Re:Lagging, because we were ahead (2)

Cato (8296) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625737)

Yes, the US phone system is so great that I regularly get just 20 to 25 Kbps on a 56K modem there, whereas in the UK it's always over 40 Kbps. (Irony alert...)

The best thing about the US phone system is the flat-rate for local phone calls, but that's also why cellular operators have to charge for incoming phone calls to mobile phones in the US (otherwise they'd lose money on every call). And this incoming call charging is a key reason why US residents don't give out their cell phone numbers, reducing the overall size of the cellular market and thus mobile penetration. This is the real reason for low mobile phone usage, it has very little to do with the quality of land lines, only their cost vs cell phones.

Japan is the only country where I saw ISDN data sockets on payphones everywhere, even tiny ski resorts, and voice quality was fine when I was there. If you really want to talk crap land line systems, try India - the GSM coverage is not too great but at least it works better than the very noisy land lines.

Penises? (-1)

Serial Troller (556155) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625506)

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Yet Another Way... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625507) part stupid people from their money. Just like idiotic ring tones, crappy SMS pictures and pretty mobile phone face-plates.

When I have kids, I'm banning them from having a mobile phone.

I hate phone calls (1)

nullard (541520) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625558)

You know what I hate? When I'm in the middle of raking it in in Slot Machine or beating my high score in Crab Catch on me cell (Sanyo 4500) and some insensitive prick calls my phone and the game quits. Like I care who's calling me. Sheesh, I was playing a game dammit! What else is my cell phone good for.

pfft... I made something much better (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625569)

I double sided taped (the good stuff though zip ties can work as well) my mobile phone to the back of a GameBoy Advance. Only problem is finding a case to fit.... had to resort to the cool-to-be-hip-looking bum bug. Once Nintendo make a flash cart to download games from the phone I can do awy with the need to carry game carts (though pirate multi game cards cut my sotrage needs in half).

Attention nerds! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3625577)

Ich habe einen außergewöhnlich großen Penis!

Who cares? (1)

surfacearea (219926) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625584)

I have an Ericsson T28w, meaning I can play a fully functional version of tetris and solitaire. Anyway, I play 99.9% of said games on my cell phone while waiting in the subway for my train [] . Now, maybe if the MTA could install some high powered cell transceivers in the tunnels to bounce around calls/data...

All of these games have dirty names. (2)

DarkHelmet (120004) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625586)

I love the names of all of these phone games.

Because the line "Wanna play with my Gladiator?" gets the same dirty look as "Wanna play with my Snake?"

Of course, then I'd whip it out... My phone, that is...

Let's all play CANCER (2, Interesting)

Qrlx (258924) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625602)

Before you mod me down, go talk on your goddam cell phone for a half an hour. Notice how one side of your head is all hot? That's the MICROWAVES COOKING YOU HEAD.

Or, if you have one of those belt clip things, it's only your OVARIES/TESTES that are being cooked.

Sure, I'm an alamrist. And no studies have ever shown that non-ionizing radiation poses a health risk. Well, how would you even conduct such a study in today's world? Find me a control group. In the early days of radio, a five watt signal from New York could be heard in Miami. Now you need 100,000 watts just to walk over your nearest competitor.

Yeah, it's off-topic. Especially if you have enough of a fucking life to play real pnp dnd with real people instead of over your cell phone.

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pda is better (1)

calarts_nutmeg (545745) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625610)

I'd rather just play games on my zaurus or handspring, at least I won't get charged, as there's tons of freeware games around.

Wow (1)

t_allardyce (48447) | more than 12 years ago | (#3625752)

Oh My God!!!! i think im going to cum with excitement. Is it at all possible to play Golf!?! on a phone?!?! never before have i seen such incredible technology come into play (no pun intended). It certainly isnt possible to download games like this onto any of the PDAs out there, and of course, none of those PDAs can talk to each other anyway because no-one has invented infra red, cell-phone connectivity, GSM cards, or connecting cables. Wow, i have to hand it to them. I would never have been able to come up with the following ideas on my own:

1) A phone thats like a PDA in that you can connect it to your PC and download 3rd party software onto it.

2) A phone thats like a PDA in that it _is_ a phone and a PDA in the same device.

3) Developing more games for phones.
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