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MacSlash Up at macslash.org

pudge posted more than 12 years ago | from the welcome-back dept.

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M. Uli Kusterer writes "After the recent problems with its .com domain expiring and the notice from dotster being eaten by mac.com's over-eager spam filter, MacSlash now has registered the www.macslash.org domain. So, tell your friends and surf over there again :-)" It came back up for me over the weekend. Read of the events that led up to this. The short of it: mac.com, without MacSlash's knowledge, filtered as spam their domain renewal notice, and someone swiped the domain when it expired.

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26 comments

fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3633477)

fp

yet another downside of spam... (3, Insightful)

j-turkey (187775) | more than 12 years ago | (#3633493)

...legitimate email being eaten up by anti-spam filters.


-Turkey

Dotster's spam biting back... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3637087)

I would have thought that dotster would have known that their email wasn't accepted by mac.com... I believe that a fairly significant chunk of folks use that address.

(also, I find it ironic that the guy from dotster says that he's getting a bunch of email about the problem. [macslash.org] At least that email was written by actual people!)

spam filter??? (1)

dennism (13667) | more than 12 years ago | (#3633516)

When did this get implemented? As far as I can tell, my mac.com address is still the target of way too much spam... this morning, I had at least 10 emails that I would consider SPAM. Previously, this had been as high as 30...

So it appears that Apple needs to look at this spam filtering system -- anything that removes DNS renewal notices but not the mountains of real spam needs to be fixed.

Bulk Spam Filter... (2, Informative)

appletag (518067) | more than 12 years ago | (#3633647)

It seems Dotster (his registrar) sends a fair amount of bulk mail asking people to switch to their service. It seems Apple filtered them due to their "bulk" status. Alot of spammers avoid this by using alot of unique addresses to avoid classification as "Bulk SPAM". This is probably why you see a fair amoung of SPAM on mac.com

Is this really very news worthy? (2)

elliotj (519297) | more than 12 years ago | (#3633523)

I hate to say it (b/c I do enjoy reading Macslash), but I don't think this story is really worth running again.

There's a lot of blame going around, but the fact is that the MacSlash management forgot to reregister their domain name. Things in life get screwed up all the time for various reasons. Being well organized requires some discipline. If they had marked in their calendar when their domain was about to expire, they would have contacted their domain registrar prior to losing the right to their name.

Frankly I think they're incredibly lucky that the guy agreed to give them the name back. Bully for them.

But this isn't a big story guys. It's been discussed already. Let's move on with talking about the Mac platform, not the missteps of a website that talks about the Mac platform.

Re:Is this really very news worthy? (3, Insightful)

Dephex Twin (416238) | more than 12 years ago | (#3633603)

Let's move on with talking about the Mac platform, not the missteps of a website that talks about the Mac platform.

Why the heck shouldn't he mention where MacSlash has been relocated? A site that talks about Apple isn't close enough to "Apple" to be mentioned? Why does the subject matter have to be strictly the Mac platform and nothing in the periphery?

Get over it!

mark

Re:Is this really very news worthy? (2, Interesting)

geneshifter (411883) | more than 12 years ago | (#3637303)

Of course this is newsworthy, at least for us mac geeks!! If anyone has a mac.com email address, they need to reconsider using it as a primary email address. If important messages are being deleted without my knowledge, that pretty much makes it useless. Better to use a different account, unless of course you like playing russian roulette with your messages.

When did it really expire then? (1)

Strog (129969) | more than 12 years ago | (#3633539)

Since they didn't get the notice, how long after it expired before it was available? I've seen expired domains sit for months sometimes but you never know.

registrars (1)

usr122122121 (563560) | more than 12 years ago | (#3633618)

I understand that they missed the warning email that their domain was expiring. That makes sense, and it would be easy [as a spam filter] to confuse something from Dotster as spam.

What I am wondering about is this: when my domain is about a month from expiring, I start to receive PILES of [real] mail from registrars who want me to transfer over to their service... all these letters say stuff like "your domain is expiring..." on the outside of the envelope.

It makes sense that they missed the email, but how did they miss all the letters? [or were they [un]lucky enough to not get them?]

Where's the retraction? (1, Troll)

anthony_dipierro (543308) | more than 12 years ago | (#3633871)

Shouldn't slashdot be posting a retraction of the inaccurate headline "MacSlash Domain Stolen"? Or is slashdot now taking the editorial position that trademark infringement is stealing?

Re:Where's the retraction? (1)

littlerubberfeet (453565) | more than 12 years ago | (#3635789)

Troll moderation above is unfair.

But anyways that is a valid point. We, the GNU, Free software, anti-trademark community are by and large represented by /.
Since the 'stealing' of the macslash domain WAS infringment, does this truely mean a reverse in slashdot editorial positions? perhaps a final article by slashdot to resolve this. How bout it Pudge?

Repeat ten times to yourself: (2)

Golias (176380) | more than 12 years ago | (#3637335)

Not all Slashdot readers, nor even all Slashdot editors, hold the exact same opinions concerning intellectual property laws.

Gawd, you are just as bad as those trolls that post the "I thought we hate the MPAA" messages every time /. reviews a movie.

Re:Repeat ten times to yourself: (1)

anthony_dipierro (543308) | more than 12 years ago | (#3638519)

Not all Slashdot readers, nor even all Slashdot editors, hold the exact same opinions concerning intellectual property laws.

And it's just pure coincidence that the ones that are opposed to IP laws post when it's a big bad company like microsoft defending them and the ones that aren't opposed to IP laws post when it's a warm fuzzy company like MacSlash defending them? Slashdot editors like to hide behind "It was only the submitter that was making the statement" and "Different slashdot editors have different opinions", but why then is it all so rare to see competing opinions on the same topic? Even in the comments section the groupthinkers are generally modded up and the dissidents are generally modded down.

But as long as pudge and most of the other editors continue to post one-liners and then run away, we won't get to hear the reasons behind their opinions. And personally, if someone isn't going to defend their opinion, I'm not interested in hearing it.

sounds like incompetence oh behalf of the owner (2, Insightful)

azosx (568180) | more than 12 years ago | (#3633923)

Did USPS happen to gobble up the paper renewal forms as well? I find it hard to believe he wasn't mailed any. I've read over all the information presented by MacSlash and it would seem the blame falls upon the owner, not anyone else, because of his irresponsibility as the head of the company. I own several bars, and by not renewing the liquor license on time, I could be subject to thousands of dollars in penalties and fines, despite whether I received renewal information or not. He should have known his "rent was up" so to say. Perhaps this is a valuable lesson he can learn from in the future.

Troll this down all you want, it's just my 2c.

Could we get the SlashBox fixed? (2, Informative)

Mononoke (88668) | more than 12 years ago | (#3634235)

The MacSlash slashbox still links to MacSlash.com, and hasn't been updating, either.

fyi

It's their own fault... (1)

sudog (101964) | more than 12 years ago | (#3634491)

They brought this on themselves. You have to carefully manage your domain-name or things like this just.. well.. happen. It's nobody's fault for actively filtering out spam email, it's Macslash's for not keping track of when they registered the domain to begin with, and for not paying either well in advance, or using automatic debiting on a credit card.

Cut 'em some slack (4, Insightful)

coolgeek (140561) | more than 12 years ago | (#3634727)

I've got my issues with MacSlash letting heavy-handed moderators run rampant. That said, I also want to say I think they deserve a little break here. I get the impression that MacSlash is more of a hobby for the guys involved; I don't believe they are fortunate enough to be able to turn it into their "Day Job", like the /. crew.

Pointing fingers at them for malfeasance is a bit of an overreaction. These guys have been providing a service to the Mac community, and IMO, thanking them is more appropriate. And what about the individual that acquired the macslash.com domain? His/her actions are akin to keeping the wallet they found even though the rightful owners' address is in it.

Re:Cut 'em some slack (2)

aozilla (133143) | more than 12 years ago | (#3635354)

I get the impression that MacSlash is more of a hobby for the guys involved

Sounds like MacSlash.org is a better domain name for them than MacSlash.com anyway, then.

as always... (0)

tarzan353 (246515) | more than 12 years ago | (#3635014)

apple.slashdot.org is a day late and a dollar short.

keep up the great work, guys.

hmmm (1)

Suppafly (179830) | more than 12 years ago | (#3636284)

The short of it: mac.com, without MacSlash's knowledge, filtered as spam their domain renewal notice, and someone swiped the domain when it expired.

good reason not to use crappy webmail..

macslash.com (2)

Khopesh (112447) | more than 12 years ago | (#3636579)

http://macslash.com/ [macslash.com]
why would somebody swipe the domain only to put up just a link to the real one? there's no ad or anything on that page. The page forwards to http://www.merc-net.com/md/macslash.htm [merc-net.com] , which seems to be some kind of communications web portal. There is a meta tag that I don't understand:
<meta name="forwarder" content="abc.dnsix.att">

perhaps somebody noticed and snatched it before a squatter could get it, but then they should be offering it back to the macslash people...

How nice of /. (1)

Erik K. Veland (574016) | more than 12 years ago | (#3636678)

Plugging their competitior twice, isn't that just the sweetest thing?

HELLO. (1)

The Pi-Guy (529892) | more than 12 years ago | (#3641311)

Hello, wake up. I just read the whole comments thing, and through my (broken) Spanish, I can understand some of what Vicente was saying. Basically, he was saying that he legitimately got the domain name, that he is not a thief, that he is now being FLOODED with insulting e-mail, and that he's trying to be helpful. So, what I'm saying is that there is apparently a little bit of misreporting here. Also, I'm guessing that crapflooding this poor guy is not going to get him to give the domain back - why don't we leave him alone?

But again, these are just MHOs.
--pi

I think it's a bit more complicated... (1)

word munger (550251) | more than 12 years ago | (#3648034)

I don't claim to be any sort of expert on domain name theft, but if you take his comments at face value--i.e. he's being totally honest, and he's REALLY Vicente--then it looks to me like Vicente's the one who's been duped. To believe that buying up expired domain names isn't going to piss some people off is at the minimum unbelievably naive.

It sounds like someone a bit more savvy sold Vicente on this scam, so the "true" thief's identity remains hidden. Vicente looks like an innocent samaritan, when in fact he's the victim of a scam. But again, I don't know much about these things, so I guess it's possible that Vicente is doing all this out of the kindness of his own heart.

Re:HELLO. (TOTALLY OFFTOPIC) (1)

i_am_pi (570652) | more than 12 years ago | (#3650223)

Hello fellow Pi! Pi
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