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Warcraft III Gone Gold

Hemos posted more than 12 years ago | from the going-gold dept.

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0x00 writes "Shacknews seems to be the first to report that Warcraft III has gone gold. The press release is here. Blizzard have announced that the game will be available July 3rd around the world - just in time for my mid-year University break (great timing!)." Update: 06/13 15:16 GMT by M : Please consider the fact that Blizzard is suing people who write software to interoperate with theirs when deciding whether you want to purchase this game.

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have my balls gone gold? (-1)

neal n bob (531011) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694656)

only if this is an FP. Lick it up, filthy ACs.

Re:have my balls gone gold? (-1)

Sexual Asspussy (453406) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694671)

and the ACs can suck 'em till they shine!

Birst Snost! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3694657)

Meeerp Glooop!

Ouch... (1)

Drakin (415182) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694658)

First Neverwinter Nights and now Warcraft III?

*starts scrapeing up cash*

w00t w00t (-1, Offtopic)

CmdrSam (136754) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694660)

First post.

The shobuffalo was here...

once again with the commentary (0, Flamebait)

scrytch (9198) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694664)

Do I need to bring back my old sig?

Editors, put your commentary in replies like the rest of us.

How's the subscription model going, guys?

Re:once again with the commentary (1)

Smelly Jeffrey (583520) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694695)

Did you ever stop to think that maybe that was done so the link showed up in the Related Links box, by any chance?

Re:Jar Jar Binks (1)

Tralfamadorian (115732) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694720)

Editors, put your commentary in replies like the rest of us.

Why? Slashdot is a site where people post links to OTHER news stories, and people comment on said stories. It is not outrageous that the editors put their opinions in the story heading text. Their opinions are always easily distinguishable from the submitter's text, and the link to the original article.

Re:Jar Jar Binks (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3694913)

Hemos posted the story. He has a right to comment on. Michael just hijacked it; he should have posted a comment although if he had done that he'd abuse the moderation system to avoid getting an instant "-1 troll"

Alright! (3, Funny)

Smelly Jeffrey (583520) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694666)

I've been waiting a long while for this one to come out. Now I'll start waiting for the expansion set to be released... :P

yippee (1)

Lennie (16154) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694667)

Years ago I played tons of WarCraft, loved it, maybe I should have tried 2 too. :)

Maybe I'll buy 3.

Ah man (3, Funny)

healy (234314) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694673)

Like my productivity didn't suck enough already...

Re:Ah man (2, Funny)

Dragonshed (206590) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694699)

I know the feeling. I keep my starcrack cds locked in a safe that will automatically detonate, Mission Impossible style. Sanity is so hard to come by these days.

Indeed (-1)

IAgreeWithThisPost (550896) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694680)

More info and pictures of the greatness of going gold [about.com]

editorial note (-1)

neal n bob (531011) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694681)

M: please consider that slashbots are pedophile felchers before giving money to slashdot.

Please consider the fact... (5, Insightful)

ObviousGuy (578567) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694685)

that no matter what it is that we're protesting at the moment, that it doesn't really matter because we're not serious about the boycotts.

Say what you like about Blizzard, they make some pretty damn good games.

You're not serious- others may be different... (4, Insightful)

Svartalf (2997) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694833)

...in that regard. Games are not so important to me to sacrifice my principles over them.

If it doesn't run on Linux, I'm not terribly interested in buying it. If a company's going to pull the stunts Blizzard has went at lengths to do, I'm definitely not going to buy it.

Re:Please consider the fact... (1)

Jonny Ringo (444580) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694864)

we're not serious about the boycotts.

Yeah, I love having joke boycotts. Its just so much more fun then those serious ones.

Stay Away from BLIZZARD!!!!!!! Nahhh I'm just kidding, I don't care. -that's what my picket sign would say.

Re:Please consider the fact... (5, Insightful)

tempest303 (259600) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694871)

First, Michael didn't disparage the game - I don't think anyone would refute that Blizzard makes good games.

Second, and more importantly, maybe YOU don't take boycotts seriously, but many others do.

Thridly, who's the "we" in slashdot? As if you could EVER get 100% of readers (hell, even 85%) to agree on anything?

Re:Please consider the fact... (3, Insightful)

dj28 (212815) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694903)

"Second, and more importantly, maybe YOU don't take boycotts seriously, but many others do."

Har har har. If by "many others" you mean "extreme minority", then you are right. Most people here on slashdot are blow-hards that sacrifice their ideology as soon as the new cool gadget from comes out. Quit being so naive.

Re:Please consider the fact... (1)

The Turd Report (527733) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694942)

maybe YOU don't take boycotts seriously, but many others do.

Taco and pals don't. How many times have we seen a front page story ranting about the evils of *AA and why we should not buy DVDs only to see Taco wet himself over the new DVD of 'Happy Super Mecha Bot PooPoo' the next day? It is hard to take a boycott seriously when the people calling for it won't even follow it.

If you take it seriously, then 'Bravo!', I am glad that some people practice what they preach.

Re:Please consider the fact... (3, Funny)

SirSlud (67381) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694876)

>Say what you like about Blizzard, they make some pretty damn good games.

This is from the 'i-know-ponies-kill-but-I-want-one-anyways' department .. ;)

And my boycott is serious. No WCIII for me. It looks awesome, but somehow I imagine I will manage to scrape by.

Re:Please consider the fact... (2, Insightful)

saveth (416302) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694907)

Say what you like about Blizzard, they make some pretty damn good games.

Indeed. I've been a fan of the entire Warcraft series, and I still play Starcraft, oh, twice per week, with a few friends.

Sure, they sued the bnetd guys. Big deal. BattleNet is FREE. It may be laggy, at times, but, overall, it's a good service, and there's really not much of a reason to spend the time reverse engineering the protocol and writing a new server for it.

Oh, but, wait! BattleNet checks keys! Maybe bnetd was invented so people with pirated copies of the game could play it without being hassled by the BattleNet servers?!

Support great software. If it happens to not be free, so what? Buy it.

Hey geeks (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3694689)

Lose some weight! [ediets.com]

Yes, i know your insulted, just because your too fat to moderate this as troll!

Hrm... (2, Funny)

Skirwan (244615) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694696)

From the oh-wait-i-forgot-we-hate-them-this-week-don't-we department:
Please consider the fact that Blizzard is suing people who write software to interoperate with theirs when deciding whether you want to purchase this game.
--
Damn the Emperor!

Re:Hrm... (1)

Torgo's Pizza (547926) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694760)

That's important to remember, because following the hate-them-this-week/love-them-the-next formula we can buy the game when it comes out on July 3rd since it falls on a love-them week. Of course, we'll have more reason to hate them the next week once all the bugs in the game are exposed.

StarCraft 2 (2)

pezpunk (205653) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694698)

i suppose they probably won't announce this until after Worlds of Warcraft.

Re:StarCraft 2 (2, Informative)

cicatrix1 (123440) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694796)

In a video interview with Bill Roper (the guy in charge of Blizzard), he said that they have not started work on Starcraft 2, but they would love to do more games in that universe. He also said that when Warcraft III is complete it would be one of their ideas for things to do next. Personally, I can't really see what they would do next if not this. . .

nice! (1, Flamebait)

{X-Frog} (122801) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694706)

nice! I just bought CDRs!

I won't pay a company like this one, I will only play ;)

come on (1)

taijirad (584518) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694761)

Blizzard is one of the few game companies that will actually take their time and make a good product. I can almost understand burning garbage games, but something that was crafted with care? You're encouraging the industry to make crap by not paying for the good stuff.

If you want good games, go out and actually _shell out your hard-earned cash_ for good games. If you want the sprial towards great Wal-Mart titles like Deer Hunter, feel free to burn WarCraft III. The choice is yours.

Re:come on (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3694943)

No your urging the industry to disallow fair use, and sue happless projects like bnetd when PURCHASING this game.

Re:nice! (1)

captain_craptacular (580116) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694809)

Yeah, so you're the little shit that I've vowed to track down and beat every time my legitimate starcraft key is in use so I can't log in to B-Net... Thanks, I'm now one step closer to my goal.

Re:nice! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3694877)

why did you give him your key? you do know the ODDS of a key generating the same key as yours right? get off it, bitch.

Warcraft vs. Neverwinter Nights (2, Informative)

theEdgeSMAK (467213) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694710)

Hmm... I know which one works with my os.. do you?

Re:Warcraft vs. Neverwinter Nights (1)

Neon Spiral Injector (21234) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694745)

I also know which one will require me to register with an OS I don't have, and is only shipping the cool tools for an OS I don't have.

Oh well, I'll just stick with my consoles.

Re:Warcraft vs. Neverwinter Nights (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3694793)

I know which one works with my os.. do you?

No. How the hell are we supposed to know what OS you are running? You could be running BEOS, DOS 5.0, Solaris, hell anything. The answer could very well be neither.

While we're considering... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3694713)

Let's also boycott the US government and *Every* publisher, despite the hard work of developers.

System Requirements? (1)

dadragon (177695) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694714)

Any news on what the system the game requires? Can I reasonably expect it to run on an 8mb graphics system?

Not that it really matters, since I've already determined that Doom III will cost me ~$600.

dude, upgrade now. (2)

pezpunk (205653) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694748)

the tech economy's in the toilet. hardware is cheap as hell. pick up a GF4 Ti and an Athlon 2000+, build your own killer system for peanuts. check pricewatch [pricewatch.com] for deals. 8 mb graphics system. does Internet Reversi run on that?

Please consider... (3, Funny)

moath (151844) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694721)

Please, be considerate of poor michael's activism. If you buy the game, he may cry and set himself on fire! Be sympathetic to the poor man! This could push him off the edge!!!!!!!!!!!

*groan*,
-Aaron

Re:Please consider... (2, Funny)

pjl5602 (150416) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694840)

Please, be considerate of poor michael's activism. If you buy the game, he may cry and set himself on fire!

I might have to go buy two copies now!!! :-)

Not buying it (0, Redundant)

DarkBlack (5773) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694725)

After careful consideration and after owning several previous Blizzard titles, I will not purchase WarCraft III. I can't bring myself to help pay for the prosecution of free software developers.

Great! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3694777)

That'll make it easier to get my copy! Hell, maybe I'll buy two just to cancel your lunatic-level open source dogma out?

(And yes, I'm not above doing something like that... which, I suppose, makes me as bad as you. Oh well.)

Re:Not buying it (1)

Shalda (560388) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694929)

After careful consideration and after owning several previous Blizzard titles, I will purchase WarCraft III. I have no problem with people and corporations excersizing their right to due process under the law, unlike some GPL hippies.

Why not to buy... (2, Interesting)

CMiYC (6473) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694738)

Call me silly but I choose not to play it because it won't run on my computer. It requires Doors or something like that.

Honestly though the only computer I have powerful enough to run it has never had Windows installed on it. My laptop has no hope of being able to play games (without branding the HP logo on my legs.) That in combination with confusing legal moves, I have mixed emotions about it.

Re:Why not to buy... (2)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694766)

I think it's also Mac compatible - I'm not planning on getting it myself just yet (I'm playing Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past! Weeee!), but I believe it's a PC/Mac hybrid. (Good lord - I just had an image of Steve Jobs and Bill Gates making out. Ew! Gross myself out! Ewww!)

I'm not alone in the world... (1)

InspectorZero (471161) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694893)

And here I thought I was the only one currently playing A Link to the Past. I just got to the fourth dungeon in the Dark World. Warcraft III will be good (I procured a copy of the beta), but you can't beat classic Zelda action. I'd rather play many an SNES game before Warcraft III.

Re:Why not to buy... (1)

dankow (462225) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694906)

"Good lord - I just had an image of Steve Jobs and Bill Gates making out. Ew!"

You think that's bad... check out the lead Wired article [wired.com] today.

pure flame (0, Flamebait)

Jacek Poplawski (223457) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694740)

And of course no Linux version at all. Please compare Blizzard and id-Software behaviour. Both companies are rich and powerfull. But even if Blizzard is making good games - they just earn money (and sues innocent people to make more and more and more money), while idsoft takes care on OpenGL and Linux.

Re:pure flame (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3694757)

Apple's a rich and powerful company. You can only use their iPod on the Mac platform. Other uses are not supported.

Heavens! (0)

blackula (584329) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694851)

A company that's out to.. make MONEY!??!?!?!?!

Good fucking God, someone alert the presses.

Re:pure flame (1)

Barret7SC (104549) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694890)

iD makes engines. (Albeit damn good ones)

Blizzard makes games. (damn good ones, too)

Rich and powerful? (3, Interesting)

Steveftoth (78419) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694936)

Blizzard isn't all that rich, in fact they don't even own themselves.
They are owned by a larger company, a french company I believe. Blizzard does make a few of the most popular games, but that doesn't mean they are the most successful.
Id is sucessful because of the work of one man, Carmack. Without him there would be no Doom and thus no Id. (Don't want to knock the artists, but they needed his engine) Quake was the first game where he didn't do all the work on the engine. So there is a large personal investment in the projects that Id does, while Blizzard is run by managers and lawyers. I'm sure that the programmers that worked at Blizzard would love to see bnetd succeed. Unlike at Id, the programmers can't speak their minds.
While Id is one of the few successful gaming companies to realease the code to their old engines, Blizzard is still selling Diablo 1 in stores. Without an engine available for mass use.
Blizzard is more hard core about protecting their property.
BTW, a few thousand geeks boy-cotting this game won't do anything to the sales, they are expecting the mothers of the world to pick this up for their little johnny or jane to play. Blizzard games sell millions of copies.

And? (1, Troll)

soulctcher (581951) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694746)

"06/13 15:16 GMT by M: Please consider the fact that Blizzard is suing people who write software to interoperate with theirs when deciding whether you want to purchase this game." Is that really necessary for reporting a story? Shouldn't this be an objective report?

Re:And? (0)

DirkDaring (91233) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694791)

"Shouldn't this be an objective report?"

Why should it be? This isn't freaking CNET. Don't like an objective? Don't read /.

Dirk

Re:And? (1)

soulctcher (581951) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694817)

Doesn't matter whether it is CNET, /., NBC, or my backyard. If you're reporting a story, make your slant a part of the discussion thread.

Re:And? (1)

fabjep (154553) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694946)

As has previously [slashdot.org] been pointed out, /. has no obligation to objectivity. News items are outside links. Commentary and reporting are clearly differentiated in every posting.

Re:And? (2, Insightful)

jtdubs (61885) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694831)

It's still objective. He didn't say:
"No one should buy this game because Blizzard X ...."

Nor did he say:
"Everyone should buy this game because Blizzard X ...."

All he asked was that you keep it in mind when making your own decision. Geez, even the whining is sub-par on slashdot...

Justin Dubs

Re:And? (2)

drix (4602) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694836)

Kindly post a link, excerpt, or anecdote where anyone affiliated with this site has made it out to be an objective and unbiased source of news. Thanks.

Re:And? (5, Insightful)

Lemmy Caution (8378) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694837)

1. Slashdot, despite the "News for Nerds" subtitle, isn't a news site. The standards for tradition journalistic objectivity don't apply. And anyway,


2. it's questionable just how much they apply to traditional news outlets. Most newspapers and TV news shows are quite free with the editorializing, and usually far less honestly than above. And besides,

3. No specific course of action is advised by the comment. It's just an objective piece of information: a reminder that Blizzard is currently suing the authors of bnetd. Insofar as any product announcement implies an imperative to go out and buy the product (what, you think it's world news?) they are simply providing more information about the product - that the company making it is engaged in a lawsuit against open source developers.

Re:And? (2)

GutBomb (541585) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694911)

you must be new here. or ignorant. or both.

slashdot does not report the news. slashdot points you in the direction of OTHERS reporting the news, and they do it with their own style and flair. if you don't like it, read another site.

Re:And? (1)

GutBomb (541585) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694932)

damnit, that was supposed to go to the parent. sorry.

Re:And? (2)

Mr. Sketch (111112) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694845)

Objective? On Slashdot? If you're looking for an objective report, maybe you should counsider other [abcnews.com] news [cnn.com] sources [msnbc.com] . But if you're just looking for news for nerds [slashdot.org] , you're at the right place.

hahahaha that's a good one (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3694927)

objective? on slashdot? *spews coffee on keyboard*

The only ethical option... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3694751)

Is to download the game without paying for it and play it on the open servers. That'll show Blizzard!! (And I get the play the game!)

please consider (2)

paradesign (561561) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694753)

Please consider the fact that Blizzard is suing people who write software to interoperate with theirs when deciding whether you want to purchase this game because nono of us buy games to actually play them, right?

Sorry Blizzard (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3694759)

I'm not going to buy ANY of your products ever again, no matter how much fun they are.
I just don't like to be spied on.

why not give the money to the EFF instead (5, Interesting)

Karl J. Smith (184) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694763)

It's $64.95 list and $79.99 for the collector's edition.

Head to http://www.eff.org and give them the money, then send a letter to Blizzard telling them about it, and why.

That much??!?!?! (1)

TrebleJunkie (208060) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694803)

It costs that much?!?!

Damn. I think I'll boycott it based on that fact alone. Sheesh.

No, I like your idea about donating the money to the EFF and mailing Blizzard and telling them why. I may just do that.

Re:That much??!?!?! (5, Funny)

ObviousGuy (578567) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694828)

Better idea.

Don't send the money to the EFF, but mail Blizzard saying you did.

Then treat yourself to a dozen Krispy Kreme donuts for being crafty (War Crafty!)

Re:why not give the money to the EFF instead (1)

OgdEnigmaX (535667) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694891)

Two words: zug zug.

Warez now has a purpose (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3694779)

Yeah, I'm going to pirate this game, and I suggest you do too. Fuck Blizzard. Fuck them in thier stupid asses.

Go MacSlash (1, Interesting)

SandSpider (60727) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694788)

I believe you'll find that a MacSlash post reported [macslash.org] this yesterday.

=Brian

Correction (2, Funny)

kraf (450958) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694799)

"Please consider the fact that Blizzard is suing people who write software to interoperate with theirs when deciding whether you want to purchase this game."

How about:
Don't support Blizzard's dirty tactics, download the game on your local p2p network !

Re:Correction (2)

Erasmus Darwin (183180) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694897)

"Don't support Blizzard's dirty tactics, download the game on your local p2p network !"

That's especially ironic, given that the Blizzard tactics seemed to nicely coincide with massive piracy of the Warcraft III beta. They went after bnetd during a period where it seemed like quite a few people were using it primarily for its lack of a CD key check (as opposed to its legitimate usage as a means of creating alternative online gaming communities with better performance).

Conscientious Consumerism VS. Customer Demand (0)

RumGunner (457733) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694804)

While most of us should be ditching anything attached to Vivendi, the lure of Warcraft III is very strong. I know that in my office, most everyone has already pre-bought.

I think we've argued the semantics almost to death in these forums. What we need is some civil resistance, Thoreau style. Quite simply, if you buy this game, you are supporting the oppression of the internet, and most importantly, Evil.

And to borrow from Thoreau, if you should think otherwise, just remember that by paying that poll tax you're supporting the war on mexico, and keeping the colored from voting.

.

Who Cares? (2, Insightful)

Silverstrike (170889) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694808)

Who cares if they're suing people. I'm sorry, just because they don't exactly follow the mores of the Slashdot Community, doesn't make them evil. Certain things are forgivable when you makes games as well as they do.

Some people just like to have a cause.

Re:Who Cares? (1)

captain_craptacular (580116) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694914)

"certain things are forgivable" Yeah, like *gasp* actually making a profit?

arrr matey (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3694818)

Well, There is no dbout that this is going to be a pretty cool game, and alot of people are going to enjoy it, however blizzard is being a bitch about bnetd which has a lot of promise. So don't give blizzard your money. If you do happen to buy a copy, please make copies for all your friends, and distribute it to as many people as you can, and we can have the best of both worlds.
problem solved.

Slashdot wants us to boycott Blizzard eh? (1)

Rotten168 (104565) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694819)

So I guess I'll have to buy two copies of the game just for spite.

Blizzard rulez! Slashdot is a little above average!

On the topic of Blizzard... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3694829)

I know this is slightly off of WC3 topic, but I've heard about a second expansion pack to Starcraft in the works. Have any /.ers heard anything about this?

DO NOT BUY THIS (0, Troll)

vegetablespork (575101) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694847)

Death to the DMCA wielding scum and their bnetd lawsuit. May they burn in hell. If you must have this damn game, pirate it or shoplift it. But better to do without and give them no ammunition to whine about the eeee-vil pirates.

Re:DO NOT BUY THIS (1, Redundant)

noelholmes (585229) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694919)

Blizzard had no choice but to sue these developers. 90% of the people who are creating "free software to interact with warcraft III" are making software to play the game without paying for it, or they are making trainers/hacks for the game, which will ruin the gameplay for everyone (does anyone remember Diablo 1?). Blizzard just wants to make a game that people can compete fairly in. I'm sure that if people were developing mods and expansions for the game, Blizzard would have been all for it, but people would rather figure out ways to play the game without paying for it and win without actually having any skill. If you really need to develop for this game, I'm sure it comes with a pretty comprehensive map editor. :)

Re:DO NOT BUY THIS (1)

vegetablespork (575101) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694928)

90% of the people who are creating "free software to interact with warcraft III"

And 90% of all statistics are made up. Do you have a citation for that, or are you extrapolating motives you might be aware of onto everyone else?

Michael (1, Troll)

haa...jesus christ (576980) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694850)

Please consider shutting the hell up!

Mad props to Stewie.

oh shit... (4, Funny)

GutBomb (541585) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694852)

i just lost $50 to a guy. I told him Duke Nukem 4Eva would come out before this...

Please Consider (0, Offtopic)

Fantanicity (583135) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694859)

Please consider the fact that Michael doesn't like puppies before moderating me down.

It's no Dungeon Seige (2, Informative)

Control-Z (321144) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694860)

I got a chance to see the beta at a friend's house.

Yes, it's 3d, but compared to a 3d engine like Dungeon Seige, Warcraft 3's engine and it's camera control scheme sucks.

And the gameplay isn't a heck of a lot different than Warcraft 2. You now have heroes, which are pretty cool, and you can queue your production. You can set a rallying point that new units will move to automatically. But the basics of building as much as you can as fast as you can still stand.

Maybe I'm just tired of the RTS genre...

Wrong commentary! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3694861)

What he really meant:
Please consider the fact that Blizzard is suing people who write software to interoperate with theirs when deciding whether you want to pir8 this game.

Google cache (1)

DeeEm (209892) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694870)

Google cache here [216.239.39.100] - Not sure if its working tho...

Re : Wrong link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3694940)

Heres the correct url [216.239.51.100]

Xians cry for War (emphasis added) (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3694882)

Pluralists ''would have us to believe that Islamfnord is just as good as Christianity, but I'm here to tell you fnord, ladies and gentlemen, that Islamfnord is not just as good as Christianity,'' Vines said. ''Islamfnord was founded by Muhammadfnord, a demon-possessedfnord pedophilefnord who had 12 wivesfnord -- and his last one was a 9-year-old girlfnord. And I will tell you Allahfnord is not Jehovah either. Jehovah's not going to turn you into a terroristfnord that'll try to bomb fnordpeople and take the lives of thousands and thousandsfnord of people.''


Jerry Vines, Ph.D.

Ah-ha! (2)

friedmud (512466) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694889)

And now we see the true reason NWN's Gold announcement was rushed out the door earlier this week (including barely any beta process and no Linux support in the box).

They just had to get it out before people started getting their WarcraftIII addiction going!

Derek

Re:Ah-ha! (1)

Lord Fren (189373) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694947)

I was wondering why NWN was shipped out, with hardly any beta testing. I figured they just wanted to do like everyone else and release a buggy product, make $$, screw the users; but I now see the light.
It was in fact released early so it could be out before Warcraft III. Silly me.

Oh no! (3, Insightful)

Ride-My-Rocket (96935) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694901)

Blizzard is exercising its right to not allow anybody except for Blizzard to use the gaming technology that it built! Panic, panic, boycott, boycott!

I think Michael is forgetting one crucial bit of information -- BLIZZARD GAMES ARE NOT OPEN SOURCE. Blizzard built it, people play it; Blizzard has the legal right to choose who they allow to interact with their game at any level. Not to say that interop software would be a bad thing -- id Software and Valve have proven that a game or gaming engine's longevity is closely tied to how accessable it is to the modding community. But if Blizzard has no desire to venture down that path, so be it.

Blizzard makes good games, period. If you don't want to buy them, that's your beef. But don't try to turn this into an open-source crusade -- you're wrong, they're right, end of story. Deal with it.

Can beta testers chime in? (2, Informative)

Salden (571264) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694922)

Will I have more fun playing this game than I did and still do playing Starcraft or is it just prettier. I think Blizzard games are great but I think they're about due for a flop (not in sales, just in longevity). It's clear that this game will sell.

OWCH, $60+ (5, Interesting)

nweaver (113078) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694933)

The price is getting STEEP for these highly hyped titles. No way.

And I haven't liked an RTS since Total Annihilation, mostly because it's the only one which got the interface right and had units which are reasonably intelligent in responding to the enemy without user intervention.

Runs perfect in WineX (5, Informative)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694937)

Just a heads up, I have been running the Warcraft III Beta under WineX [sf.net] now for months. It runs full speed (since the graphics use my X servers OpenGL driver), and is flawless as far as I can tell - mu ch better performance and compatability than Starcraft.

Don't buy, but don't copy either (4, Insightful)

lingqi (577227) | more than 12 years ago | (#3694939)

There are so many posts about how "i am going to get even by pirating the game"...

guys (or gals), please do not sink yourself to that level. While we agree on the fact that Blizzard sueing bnet.d is questionable (okay, dead wrong and full of malicious intent), we also all know that copyright infringement is wrong. not necessarily as wrong as MS and BSA make it appear to be, but still wrong non-the-less. copying their software will not make things any better. in the end they will just come back with the statistic and say -- look, of COURSE we need to take these legal actions.

the future rests in each of our hands (gosh that sounds lame), that may seem to be insignificant at first, but i really believe that it's an important responsibility.

think it through -- i mean, it IS just a game you know.
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