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what? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719001)

what am I going to do now???

Use something else? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719046)

WinMX [winmx.com] ? Or one of the many gnutella clients (ie BearShare [bearshare.com] , there's lots!) or KazaaLite [kazaalite.tk] . Many many options...

Re:Use something else? (2)

DouglasA (31173) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719072)

None are as good, frankly. I've used WinMX and KaazaLight, but they seem to have trouble doing simple downloads of scarce mp3s (which is what I'm almost always grabbing). AudioGalaxy was excellent at locating the most obscure tracks, and providing a stable connection for you to grab the file from someone else.

The search was aslo much, much faster than anything I've seen, including Napster, and just seemed to be less of a pain. (Mind you, I was a Gold member - $15/6 months, no ads, faster site, well worth it. Or at least it was.)

Re:Use something else? (1)

chuckgrosvenor (473314) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719174)

I agree.. I've been trying to hunt down a lot of rare tracks lately, and aside from the copyright blocked entries, AudioGalaxy was great.. although I seemed to be picking up a lot of crappy sounding tracks lately, but usually those weren't even available on other networks...

I just uninstalled Audio Galaxy though, because it's clear it's no longer useful for much..

what I wish I could find, is a network for trading mpgs.. I have a huge list of stuff, and I'm still unable to find a hundred or so mpegs of 80s stuff that is hard to find even in record store bins, let alone online..

that's what upsets me the most.. the stuff the record companies don't want to publish because they won't sell many units, they also don't to allow people to download for free off the internet..

Re:Use something else? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719115)

None of those networks have the number of mp3 Audiogalaxy had, and when it gets to underground music, they simply suck. In Audiogalaxy I was able to find ANYTHING, regardless of how little known it was. I'm not interested in mainstream crap, I'm interested in knowing new artists and finding REALLY alternative music. In Audiogalaxy you had everything, from the most underground avantgarde to all kinds of folk, classical music, jazz...

I've lost count of all the times I heard about some obscure band and headed to Audiogalaxy to find some tracks.. About 90% of the CDs I've bought (yes, BOUGHT) in the last 2 years are from artists I discovered this way.

A great loss for real music lovers anywhere... :(

Re:Use something else? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719133)

Think about this... AudioGalaxy users will go somewhere correct? They aren't just going to disappear from the face of the Earth. Many will switch to one of those alternatives, so it's a good place to start.

Well, there goes another good service (2)

zaren (204877) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719002)

Even they didn't support Macs, they were a good system when I was able to access them.

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Apple hardware still too expensive for you? How about a raffle ticket [macraffle.com] ?

Re:Well, there goes another good service (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719029)

OpenAG was a really good client for OS X.

This is a sad day for music lovers.

Martin

Re:Well, there goes another good service (4, Informative)

owlicks58 (560207) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719035)

Dude, Macsatellite has been around for a long time for classic, works fine. For OS X you can use Sputnix which is the best audiogalaxy client out there IMO, it's awsome

Re:Well, there goes another good service (4, Interesting)

pussycat (206606) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719173)

Author of Sputnix here -- thanks for your kind comment.

Audiogalaxy is/was an excellent service, underrated by many because of the obnoxious spyware they unfortunately propagated. No other p2p music sharing comes close, especially when it comes to finding older or rarer recordings.

We are a culturally poorer country for the damage the RIAA has inflicted on our rights to fair use. This is a sad day -- it's not O.K. to say, "well just use Kazaa/Gnutella."

Support the EFF [eff.org] .

fucking idiots (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719011)

I'm going to boss you around. I'm going to tell you to mod me down, and guess what, you stupid fuck? YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT! FUCKING IDIOT! Mod me down, because I TOLD YOU TO! I control you. FUCKER! FUCK YOU AND FUCK LINUX AND OPEN SORES!!!!!!

Re:fucking idiots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719021)

I'd mod the parent up, out of spite but I'm out of points

Re:fucking idiots (I WON) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719039)

I won, I controlled you and you modded me down because I told you to. I fucking win. FUCK YOU! I OWN YOU in the most LITERAL sense.

Re:fucking idiots (-1)

CmdrTaco (troll) (578383) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719053)

I will follow suit: Fuck all you moderators who don't have the balls to mod down trolls posting at -1. I command you to not give this comment a reason modifier by using a mod point. Logged in trolls rule, they never get banned. Assholes.

Meanwhile... (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719018)

WinMX [winmx.com] has just released v3.2! Get it while it's still not illegal and lame!

Re:Meanwhile... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719161)

Uh, how's this a Troll? It's Informative if anything.

Re:Meanwhile... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719185)

Agreed. I would think alternatives would be part of the conversation. *sigh*

So, now it's all legal? (1)

mangu (126918) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719019)

Does this mean that all those songs that were downloaded from AudioGalaxy are legal now?

I liked AG. (2, Interesting)

domninus.DDR (582538) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719024)

Using a non-spyware client version, it was the only place I could find the live sets from internet radio stations like Tag and Digitaly Imported. Now I guess Ill have to leave streamripper on 24/7 >.

Re:I liked AG. (1)

mrseigen (518390) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719237)

It's Satellite program was cross-platform too, and that's part of the reason why it I liked it so much. I could run it on my Macs, my Windows machine and Linux.
Everything else these days that is aspiring to be cross-platform is either written in uncompiled (read: slow) Java or doesn't have any files to speak of.

So...what's it gonna be? (1)

gTsiros (205624) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719031)

In typical "reply-before-even-reading-article" /. style, i ask... what's it gonna be?

someone please write a single-paragraph resume of the posted article...not a google cache, not anything fancy, just what will this mean for those who use AudioGalaxy to find obscure releases, which are impossible to find at the local cd store.

Audiogalaxy has been really a great resource in that aspect, possibly better than napster ever has been. Maybe this coincides with my own personal preferences tho... anyway!

that's about it...

Re:So...what's it gonna be? (2)

spoonboy42 (146048) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719118)

Opt in, essentially. Everything is blocked unless the record label goes out of its way to allow sharing. Those obscure releases... well, some small labels might actually opt-in. Then again, rare, out-of-print recordings from defunct labels will never be shared again. It's a sad story...

Re:So...what's it gonna be? (5, Insightful)

KoshClassic (325934) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719209)

AG is effectively dead even at this moment (EVERY song has the infamous "X" logo next to it instead of the satellite dish.


But the crux of the settlement is that in order for AG to let you download a song, they supposedly have to be given explicit permission by the copyright owner to allow the song to be traded through AG - whereas before, they had a model where it was up to the copyright holder to instruct them to block the song.


Bottom line then is that AG may once again become a good resource for well known material from popular bands (as someone might bother to let them trade this stuff for some type of fee), it will never again be a good resource for obscure stuff - old songs from less popular band's back catalogs, live radio appearances etc. - the copyright holders will never bother to give AG permission to allow that stuff to be swapped. In the end the Big Brother that is the RIAA and their DMCA cronies have dealt yet another serious blow to the rest of us todayt.

RIP audiogalaxy (1)

Mr. X (17716) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719034)

we'll all miss you :-(

Re:RIP audiogalaxy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719226)

Theres no need to stop using audiogalaxy.

There are no blocking songs if your in groups. All you have to do is join a group and take the songs from the people in the groups.

I dont know why this is okay but they allow this with no blocking laws.

Or just create a group and get lots of people to join and take songs off of them.

I say we use this to our advantage.

Re:RIP audiogalaxy (2, Insightful)

goldspider (445116) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719248)

Call me what you will (a troll, probably), but am I the only one here noticing how people are equating the legitimacy of AudioGalaxy with the end of its usefulness?

I'm not saying that getting pushed around by the xxAA's is a good thing, and sure, AG will now probably go the way of Napster. But really, folks, if the OSS community is going to gain standing (and a measure of its own legetimacy, I suppose) in the public eye, it really should stop blindly backing causes rooted primarily in software and music piracy, and start working on projects that are legally bullet-proof. That way, we can have software that is both useful And legal!

If you consider these terms to be mutually exclusive, your efforts will be an exercise in futility.

one problem solved, how about another? (4, Insightful)

I Want GNU! (556631) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719040)

Now that a copyright infringement suit has been settled, maybe the RIAA could agree to stop its illegal actions of price gouging and acting as a trust? And maybe they could stop bribing politicians as well?

Re:one problem solved, how about another? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719139)

No. They must keep profits up, so Hillary Rosen can continue to roll naked in her pile of money.

Eh, oh well. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719041)

I don't think there will ever be a P2P client that will even compare to what Napster was. You could find anything on that thing.

Notice this is an RIAA PR (1)

Real World Stuff (561780) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719051)

The link [riaa.com] is the RIAA site PR.

Audiogalaxysite [audiogalaxy.com] shows:
"Message board : General Discussion

06/17/02 ape2man71 - AG is completely over!
All the songs on AG are now blocked. It means
the most fast,stable and reliable file share
program finally came to an end. What shall we do from now on?"


That is a question only the folks at AG can answer.

Re:Notice this is an RIAA PR (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719144)

What shall we do from now on?

Pay for your music instead of stealing it, that's what.

Re:Notice this is an RIAA PR (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719262)

There are lots of great things on AG that aren't illegal files... Obscure live sets for example. I liked AG because it had an amazing selection of early 80s punk rock that is all out of print, was only available on vinyl in the first place and is impossible to get now. Oh well.

Re:Notice this is an RIAA PR (1)

Mopana (573494) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719271)

oh, yes! Now Kadri Gopalnath will benefit from me not having access to his music anymore! Artists don't want me to listen to them, they want me to give them money.

Re:Notice this is an RIAA PR (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719240)

How about you start joining the groups on AG.

For AG does not block songs if your getting from someone in a group.

Ding Ding* Audiogalaxy is not dead.

Make some groups, join some groups, everyone is happy, we all get the songs we want.

Problem solved...

Oh, the pain (1)

DouglasA (31173) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719055)

Everything is already blocked. While I made a point to check out the artists who had official relationships with AG, I certainly raided a lot of non-kosher material. Oh well, I guess I'll cool my heels for a few months until the next "next big thing."

Does This Change Anything? (1)

Trillian_1138 (221423) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719056)

I'm not entirely sure it does. As of now, AudioGalaxy has some (moderate) copy protection. There are lots of songs that say they're undownloadable right now, but you just have to search for a slightly different title or spell the singer/band incorrectly.

This will probably make searching for music more difficult, but just search in AudioGalaxy a little deeper, or use KaZaA Lite [kazaalite.com] as reported on Slashdot [slashdot.org] . I use KaZaAlite and, if you alert Ad-Aware to the fake DLL it uses to fool KaZaA, it works wonderfully. (And I still haven't seen KaZaA shut down, in spite of rumors to that effect...)

***

Opt-in vs. Opt-out (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719076)

Before, the artists could get their stuff pulled from listings (opt-out), but now they explicitly allow it (opt-in).

Re:ALL SONGS *ARE* UN-DLable (1)

Trillian_1138 (221423) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719086)

Replying to myself:

I just checked AudioGalaxy and it WOULD indeed apear that, as of right now, not a single song is downloadable. Since that is the case, I'd suggest switching to KaZaAlite (www.kazaalite.com) or some such.

Or just wait for the next file-sharer. Napster's dead. Maybe AudioGalaxy is now too. That doesn't mean another software system won't pop up shortly. (And I repeat my recomendation of Kazaalite!! It's adware and spyware FREE!!!)

Re:ALL SONGS *ARE* UN-DLable (1)

Grahf666 (118413) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719260)

There are a number of p2p systems out there that are gaining in popularity fast, however, I'll leave you to do your own research. 'Tis better to keep such things relatively unknown for as long as possible. In the filesharing world, popularity = death, it seems.

Re:Does This Change Anything? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719152)

I had a band back in the late '70s, I make the stuff available via AG. I just tried a search for it, the stuff was found, but downloading is blocked: "You cannot request this song due to copyright restrictions. "

Well, I sure as shit never told anybody to block requests for Chinese Forehead, so this appears to be either "artist opts in" or 'Somebody else is claiming copyright on my stuff'

Great, what about MY songs? (5, Insightful)

Jon Howard (247978) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719057)

What about the MP3's I'm sharing of my music?

I suspect it's going to be a bit of a pain in the ass to convince Audiogalaxy to allow me to share my band's music over their service. How can I satisfy them that I'm truly the copyright holder? If it's easy enough to make it painless, what's to keep others from attempting to get their favourite artist's music unprotected using the same technique?

Re:Great, what about MY songs? (1)

son_of_rotten (585642) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719127)

Uh... you could have them call you in Pleasant Hill? Of course even _you_ don't make your music easy to find. The "We want to trade unknown bands' music!" argument is hooey. WE want free-beer.

Re:Great, what about MY songs? (5, Funny)

rhizome (115711) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719129)

I suspect it's going to be a bit of a pain in the ass to convince Audiogalaxy to allow me to share my band's music over their service. How can I satisfy them that I'm truly the copyright holder? If it's easy enough to make it painless, what's to keep others from attempting to get their favourite artist's music unprotected using the same technique?

As an independent artist, you're obviously illegitimate and not worthy of any exposure at all. Undoubtedly the only way around this little dilemma is to assign your copyrights to an RIAA affiliate for every means of distribution that they control.

Re:Great, what about MY songs? (2)

crimoid (27373) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719164)

Satire aside. Email them and find out

http://audiogalaxy.com/info/help_about.php3?#conta ct

Contacts

How do I contact someone about:

Adding my band or label to the site?

music@audiogalaxy.com

So much for independent musicians... (1)

emarkp (67813) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719060)

The settlement reached would allow Audiogalaxy to operate a "filter-in" system, which requires that for any music available, the songwriter, music publisher,
and/or recording company must first consent to the use and sharing of the work.
Note how they state that the recording company must always be the one to authorize the song. The musician and publisher never has the right without consend of the "recording company". What if there is no recording company?

Audiogalaxy is dead (1)

mochan_s (536939) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719061)

Everything now has a X button and says "You cannot request this song due to copyright restrictions. Please try a different search."

R*AA can burn in hell! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719279)

AG doesnt block groups with all that bullshit. Join the group R*AA can burn in hell and there wont be any copywright bullshit laws.

we can all be happy and everyone will get the songs they want.

Audiogalaxy is not dead. Problem Solved.

R*AA can burn in hell

Another p2p service down the drain (1)

fire-eyes (522894) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719062)

Goodbye.

The only way to prevent this shit is to:

1) strongly encrypt everything
2) random src/dest ports
3) no centralized servers

There is actually something like this in development. Cheers.

Too bad (2)

ciryon (218518) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719063)

Audiogalaxy has been a good source for music online. I will now have much greater difficulty finding and trying out new bands. This will of course result in fewer purchased CDs. Again, too bad.

Ciryon

Re:Too bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719268)

Almost all the CD's I've bought this year, I bought because I found the music on Audiogalaxy... I DJ with CD players and my laptop and buy mostly imported psy/goa trance CD's from stores in hong kong and Germany... I'll probably discover less music and buy less CD's because of the shutdown...

I canceled my gold membership today ...sad day :(

I have Mac running OSX , are there any other alternatives?

Sad, but... (1)

Gwyn_232 (585793) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719066)

It's just natural selection. I don't like to see the recording industry score another point, but this will help stimulate peer-to-peer development.

NNTP (5, Funny)

m0rph3us0 (549631) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719073)

Wait until the RIAA discovers NNTP, or IRC. Soon we won't be able to chat or recieve news in the name of copy protection.

I wonder what the RIAA would do if they found out that you could copy a CD and use a car to transport it.

DOWN WITH CARS!!!

m0rph

Re:NNTP (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719102)

I've started using the postal service for my music swapping. For a few cents, I'm able to mail CD-RW's to people almost anywhere, and for a few cents, they're able to do the same back. It's great!

I figure eventually the RIAA will find out, and try to battle the USPO. It should be an entertaining fight.

Re:NNTP (1)

SN74S181 (581549) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719172)

Being as I am a Usenet enthusiast, I hope binary attachments aren't used as an excuse to take down NNTP.

In actuality, they are, though, because the sheer volume of people trading warez and pirated content on Usenet is flooding out people using it for actual news and discussion.

Perhaps no-binary servers are the answer.

Re:NNTP (1)

idontneedanickname (570477) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719229)

wht happens when RIAA finds out the root of piracy is actually the ARTISTS that make the music in the first place...

DOWN WITH THE ARTISTS!!!

The more things change... (2)

sandidge (150265) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719077)

So... they settled to do just what it seems they were doing before the lawsuit. Only now, they are less the settlement money.

Isn't is "wonderful" how the world works?

Re:The more things change... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719119)

No, before they were blocking songs when asked. Now they're blocking all songs until they're allowed.

chown -R riaa * ; chmod -R -r * (4, Interesting)

hymie3 (187934) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719078)

Wow. Is it just me, or has every single song on audiogalaxy just been yanked? Other than featured artists, everything seems to be "permission denied".

I *know* that there's indie stuff being shared that *was* okay to be posted (all of the SXSW demos, for example) but are now "permission denied" even though the artist in question has made the MP3s freely available.

Soooo, at a whim, the RIAA can chmod -r all songs offered through audiogalaxy, even those that they have no control over?

Re:chown -R riaa * ; chmod -R -r * (4, Insightful)

Manitcor (218753) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719251)

One wonders if that might be one of the hidden motivations of RIAA other than simple pirating.

If an artist can easily get worlwide distrubution and play without them. What happens to RIAA. Granted it would take many years. I could see a world where bands are all distrubuted on the net and the only thing we pay for is a live preformance.

Of course this has been discussed to death in the past.

Opposite Effect Achieved (5, Insightful)

SirKodiak (585894) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719081)

From article:
"The message is clear - there is no place on the Internet for services that exploit creators' work without fair compensation," added Edward P. Murphy, President and CEO, NMPA.
And thus, this sad chapter of history has ended. No longer can rufians download music on the internet, making the delivery channels of CD, tape, and vinyl the only channels, ensuring that the copyright holders recieve their fair compensation. The brief period of anarchy is at last over, likely forever.

Or, possibly, just possibly, decentralized services with no way to be shut down are still around, and will always be around, and the RIAA is trying to close the cell doors after the inmates have already taken over the prison.

Well, good luck to them. As they kill those services that have any sort of control mechanism in place, all that will remain is those services that they can't control, which are precisely those services which can't be used to make money for the publishing industry. What may have taken a decade of evolution from central-controlled P2P to fully-distributed P2P is being encouraged to take place in a couple of years. The dinosaurs aren't just being replaced by mammals, they're encouraging them to do it as quickly as possible.

Re:Opposite Effect Achieved (2, Insightful)

RAMMS+EIN (578166) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719266)

``decentralized services with no way to be shut down are still around, and will always be around''
Conclusion: the RIAA is continues to fool those who really think they're protecting artists and whatnot, while in the meantime filling its pockets with what they win in the courtrooms. I have to admit the courage they have to do this kind of thing right under everyone's nose...

So what? (0)

PhysicsGenius (565228) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719096)

Great, AudioGalaxy is legal now. So what? If you consider their peering model, wherein clients act like sub-servers in an availability matrix you'll find that their network capacity and bandwidth redudancy weren't all that great to begin with. Now, with reduced storage load and increased end-user demand it will only get worse. Good bye, AudioGalaxy.

AG was about as good as possible.. (2, Insightful)

7seasjim (579684) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719101)

Audiogalaxy, as proficient user, was lightyears ahead of Napster and way way beyond Kazaa & the crowd. When you had it working for you, it would provide the most amazing music sent TO you by groups of people with similar interests, guaranteed to be good. Their biggest liability was that they didnt have the money to compete with the RIAA. They're not in violation of anything besides listing whats on your hard drive; but legally, it would take millions to prove a simple point. All they ever sold was AG t-shirts. God bless them for trying; music will be as free as language (look at us reading without paying $$ for it) some day. No executive deserves 500k/yr for making children behave like Britney Spears. Fuck 'em for being soulless, immoral and soon to be dead.

I will miss them (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719103)

Better than Napster, very much oriented to the music fan. I found out more interesting obscure and old stuff there. Where else could I find stuff by "Sex With Lurch" and Red Prysock in the same session?

Tried Limewire recently in anticipation of this. Not the same.

and hopefully, in the near future (4, Funny)

Chardish (529780) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719108)

I'd like to see this:

Today AudioGalaxy reached an out-of-court settlement with representatives of a class-action spyware suit. To sum up the settlement, AudioGalaxy will pay the spyware victims a lot of money and from now only provide programs for which the user has specifically given permission for the program to install"

IIRC (3, Funny)

loucura! (247834) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719109)

Didn't they only provide songs that the copyright holder gave them permission for? From what I've heard and seen, Audiogalaxy removed songs that were copyright violations quite quickly, and had filtering software that blocked them from coming back.

Basically the settlement should read: AudioGalaxy settles with RIAA, buys protection, and avoids cement boots, and Guido.

Re:IIRC (1)

SN74S181 (581549) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719201)

Speaking as a latecomer to P2P music 'trading' I can state categorically that I only ever used Audio Galaxy to download music that I explicitly know was copyrighted and they almost certainly had no permission to be spreading around for free. Mostly tracks from Psychic TV. Genesis P-Orrige, one of the PTV leaders, is notorious for defending his 'IP' rights.

In further news... (3, Funny)

shut_up_man (450725) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719128)

In compliance with the RIAA's wishes, Audiogalaxy.com has made its service almost totally useless, paid out most of its funding in fines, and ensured that the great percentage of its users have fled to another, as-yet-unknown, music sharing system.

Film at eleven.

And so, as another one dies.. (2)

CBNobi (141146) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719134)

When Napster was bombarded by suits and started to slowly die, many of the users moved to Morpheus (known as MusicCity at the time and running their own OpenNap network, IIRC). So who did the RIAA attack? Kazaa/Morpheus, of course.

AudioGalaxy is yet another of those sued by the industry, and yet another source of music is destroyed. What will this mean for users of the service?

They'll move to another service, such as BearShare, iMesh, or WinMX. Very few of them will bother finding true alternative sources, such as IRC channels or FTP servers. And what does RIAA do best? Look for popular services and nuke them.

This is in no way a flame towards those who decide to move to other services - however, it just seems to be becoming a trend for the RIAA to hurt larger services first.

Just a thought (3, Interesting)

oPless (63249) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719135)



RIAA ... Monopoly ?

They certainly think they are, because they seem to be "representing" bands that are unsigned

So are they going to stump up the cash to these indie bands? ho ho ho.

Can some of these indie band file a class action lawsuit against the RIAA for anti-trust ?

Just a thought... IANAL

Re:Just a thought (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719221)

It's actually an oligopoly, not a monopoly (mono = one).

Settlement Question (1)

Aknaton (528294) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719140)

If the RIAA was indeed ripped off, so were the artists. So will the artists receive any money from this?

This is only the beginning. (5, Insightful)

vkg (158234) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719145)

In case you haven't been paying attention

THESE MOFOS ARE GOING TO TRY AND DO THIS TO THE ENTIRE INTERNET

Filtering of all content, on the backbone, to remove anything without DRM flags indicating it's OK to transmit is both technically feasible and completely coherent with increasing government demands to be back in control of the internet.

Welcome to the future of the internet: we call it television, and we'll tell you what you can see!

Can I choose who is next? (1, Troll)

peterdaly (123554) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719160)

If I ruled the RIAA, I'd go after Morphius and Kazaa next. Not because of the music problem, but because of all the crap, buth known an unbeknownst to the users of their software.

Please, shut them down!

-Pete

The Curse of Napster (1)

E-Rock-23 (470500) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719166)

Once again, another "son of Napster" goes down due to an insanely high public profile. Makes you wonder if the RIAA will ever realize where the REAL damage is being done. IMHO, the RIAA won't be able to pinpoint the problem and will ultimately fall as more and more artists realize what power they actually have thanks to MP3/OGG/etc.

Meanwhile, elsewhere on the net, millions upon millions of files are being swapped every day, right under the RIAA's nose. Looks like the "All-Knowing, All-Seeing, Hand-Of-God-Laying-The-Smackdown" is a little blind, deaf and dumb yet. And to think they're being undercut by three little letters...

Access Forbidden (4, Funny)

Roy Ward (14216) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719167)

I got this when trying to look at the press release on RIAA's web site:

>HTTP Error 403
>
>403.9 Access Forbidden: Too many users are connected

Sums up their whole approach really.

Re:Access Forbidden (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719216)

C'mon! Mod this up! Geez!

I've always loved Tom's (1)

pornaholic (242268) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719171)

I had quite a giggle when I could name all the CD's based on the parts of them that showed around the post-it. I hope it was done not only to avoid entanglements, but also in humor. Kinda like a scrambled pr0n, you can get the whole picture from a little piece of it. I just have to worry about having broken Tom's encryption scheme by figuring it out.

Maybe if you listened to the scrambled music these CDs play you can appreciate the entire sound. Well, no, that's just stupid. So it's not like scrambled pr0n cause I don't enjoy it - more like a girl's phone number that you wrote on your hand and accidentally rubbed off the last 2 numbers.

A bit wandering, but hopefully stimulating in some non-nauseating way.

And another one bends over to take it.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719177)

...up the ass.

oh great... (1)

joeldg (518249) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719186)

Now, the last service that was usable, fast and didn't want to know your mothers maiden name (and probably the rights to it too) is being screwed offline. I have been using this service since it started and the linux client works wonders and it is fast and doesn't want you to share your whole hard drive (read: morpheus).. Oh, this makes my heart sink... grr.. now I'm mad...

those wonderful press releases... (2, Insightful)

muel (132794) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719189)

"The message is clear - there is no place on the Internet for services that exploit creators' work without fair compensation." --Edward Murphy, NMPA

Of course. The recording industry would much rather let the record labels, executives, managers and lawyers do the exploiting of musicians, as always.

"This is a victory for everyone who cares about protecting the value of music," said Hilary Rosen, Chairman and CEO of the RIAA.

And by value, she means dollars, not musical or technical merit. But she doesn't mean the dollars spent in "payola" fashion to radio directors who decide which songs are put into rotation in key markets (and you thought your phone calls and emails picked which songs got played)... nor does she mean the dollars spent on flawed copy-protection schemes. She means .001% of the dollars on an executive's quarterly report. That's the value of music, kids.

I'm left to wonder; where's the AG press release?

OMG - My wife out teched me! (1)

joel8x (324102) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719192)

My wife was trying to download a Strokes song using Kazaa Lite and it was slow going (as usual), so I bet her I could DL it on Audiogalaxy in less than 2 minutes. So I search for it and find it quick enough, with a message saying that I'm not allowed to search for this file due to copyright infringement!

I thought it was my third party Mac client (Sputnix) being blocked, so I hopped over to my PC and tried it there, only to find the same results. OK, my 2 minutes were almost up... A quick look at the message boards finds the press statement from earlier today. DAMN - I'm not pissed that they pulled Audiogalaxy, 'cause there's a million of these services popping up every time one goes down (I found a great network - DirectConnect - from looking at the AG Message board), but what pissed me off is that I lost my bet to my non-technical WIFE. Those M'er F'ers!!!!

Needless to say I installed the program DirectConnect (http://www.neo-modus.com) and had the song Dl'ed in less than 15 minutes from the start of my bet, but that was 13 minutes too late!

Refund? (1)

dbrummer (570956) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719193)

What is AG going to do now that all the gold members paid. My coworker paid $15 for the gold membership 3months ago, and he still has 3months left. I smell a large refund of many users coming on. AG is skrewd.

Re:Refund? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719238)

They get to use the new legal AudioGalaxy!

Who's going to publicly admit they are upset because they paid to use something illegal and now they can't? "But your honor, I paid the hitman, it's not fair I don't get my kill!"

who cares timothy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719194)

you're the worst slashdot editor.. along with hypocrite michael

just an idea... (2)

InsaneCreator (209742) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719200)

I believe that now is the right time to unleash a file-sharing IIS worm! What are they going to do? Drag Microsoft and thousands of NT server owners to court for providing software for file sharing?

New Business model for the RIAA? (2)

smoondog (85133) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719206)

Is this the beginning of a new business model for the RIAA? The steps:

1. Someone starts a p2p service.
2. Users of said service trade copyrighted material.
3. RIAA sues said service to prevent copyright infringement along the service's (virtual) pipes.
4. Service pays RIAA, files bankruptcy slightly later.
5. Goto step 1

Hmm, is it just me or is this a *really* big waste of venture capital and angel investing? You are paying the RIAA for the ability to trade priviledged material. The thing is, your copy is still illegal and someone is picking up your tab.

-Sean

join groups (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719210)

no fret, audiogalaxy is still worth using... The copywright laws dont work for groups. All you have to do is join a bunch of groups and just take the songs from the people there. Theres no song blocking in the groups. I would suggest to use this to our advantage.

Re:join groups (2)

spoonboy42 (146048) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719246)

Yes, there is song blocking in groups. For a couple of weeks now, file sends have been filtered for copyright, too. This also ended a hack I punched up that used two user accounts to dupe the system into sending copyrighted tracks.

I don't like this stupid RIAA. (4, Insightful)

rice_burners_suck (243660) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719214)

I strongly believe this is an unacceptable settlement. An acceptable settlement is one where a business arrangement is reached whereby both parties benefit from the agreement. For example, a deal whereby some small fee is paid to the RIAA for each copy of a song downloaded or sold, in exchange for RIAA marketing muscle supporting the scheme. This would most likely bring more benefits to both parties than the current scheme, which will screw over AudioGalaxy and give no extra profit to the RIAA.

Conclusion? The boring, gray-haired old men in charge of the RIAA have absolutely no imagination whatsoever. Only a lot of greed. And greed is their downfall. Case in point: If music (and indeed, other "content" such as movies) was sold for much cheaper, I believe the RIAA would increase volumes tremendously and make more profit than under the current scheme, where laws are passed left and right to protect the alleged right of the RIAA to eternal profit. Suppose an album you wanted cost $8.00 to $10.00 (USD), rather than the outrageous $18.00 that many albums cost nowadays. I believe that most people would find it so much more convenient to buy an album than to download 300 copies of a song in search of a good quality rip. Further, I think that music should be sold online, for extremely low prices. An album that sells for $8.00 in the store might go for $2.00 if downloaded, as the buyer doesn't get a nice shiny CD, case, booklet, and all kinds of other stuff. The copy available at the store would include all sorts of cool stuff (including coupons to direct customers to other music they might like), giving people a good reason to actually buy the music.

Finally, I think everyone should fight for their fair use rights. If you buy a CD, you should be allowed to make as many copies as you want for your own use. For example, I never take my original CDs into my car, as they could get jacked or lost or melted in the heat or something. It would be even more convenient if my stereo played MP3 CDs, so I could put all my albums on a few discs and not have to endanger myself and others while driving to change CDs around.

But like I said, those idiot gray-haired old geezers in control of the RIAA have no style or imagination. They're a bunch of boring old men with no goal in life other than to make themselves appear elevated by crushing others.

work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3719222)

How am I supposed to look busy at work now?

what should I use? (1)

bigsexyjoe (581721) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719224)

Please forgive my ingorance. What do you recommend for downloading stuff. Most people Kazza, but I understand that has "spyware." (I'm not sure what that does.) Any feedback would be appreciated.

Re:what should I use? (1)

kaustik (574490) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719277)

Kazaalite.com Kazaa with spyware removed. Just make sure to install a good virus program and scan each download before opening. I've had great success with downloading full albums, cracked games, movies, etc.

FUCK!!! (4, Interesting)

Groucho (1038) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719227)

God damn those dickshitting chancre-eating mongo fuckers!

Last night I heard a great new artist on a shoutcast station (another non-approved media outlet that they're trying to shut down) and today when I go to sample a couple more tracks, I find everything is locked up.

Audiogalaxy was truly the best. It had just about every non-mainstream artist I'd ever heard of and then some. I've been buying CDs for the past two years exclusively based on stuff I've been able to sample from them.

Compared to Audiogalaxy, Gnutella, Limewire and Kazaa users have nothing but crap. You might as well try and shop for interesting music at Walmart.

Mainstream media can go BUTTFUCK ITSELF IN THE MOUTH. I'm still going to try and find stuff that gooses my juices but it's going to be harder to find and I won't therefore be buying as much. Not that the RIAA gives a bearded hag's ass--they only notice when someone buys the ten godzillionth unit of some spastic fucking living dead Franken-pop they sewed together out of Elvis Presley's anal warts and scraps from the dumpster out back Michael Jackson's plastic surgery disaster clinic.

Fuck. I reiterate, FUCKKK.

G

Re:FUCK!!! (1)

JetScootr (319545) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719274)

Seldom has anyone ever expressed an opinion so foully that I actually agreed with. I'm normally a laid back guy, but this time I gotta say "What he sed!"
But on the upside: They can't spoon back the tide forever. P2P will destroy the RIAA, or they will change their business model in order to survive.
So friend, patience...we will overcome.

Sounds bad but (2)

sulli (195030) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719275)

if they're non mainstream and therefore non RIAA, would they not have the ability to give AG permission to distribute? "Opt in" is a phrase that comes to mind.

Goodbye AG (1)

Winterblink (575267) | more than 11 years ago | (#3719263)

Well, another mainstream MP3 search util is about to suck. Between this and the RIAA trying to get a share of every used CD sale, I'm wondering why the US government hasn't stepped in and smacked their peepee. They'll stomp all over Microsoft for having a monopolistic control of computers, doesn't this fall under the same, or similar, category?
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