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Slackware 8.1 is Released

timothy posted more than 12 years ago | from the free-toilet-paper-with-cd-purchase dept.

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MrSnivvel writes: "Slackware 8.1 has been released. Highlights of this release include KDE 3.0.1, GNOME 1.4.1 (with new additions like Evolution), the long-awaited Mozilla 1.0 browser, support for many new filesystems like ext3, ReiserFS, JFS, and XFS, and support for several new SCSI and ATA RAID controllers. Remember to buy your copies at http://store.slackware.com. List of download mirrors here. Public releases of Mozilla AND Slackware in the same month, I'm so happy I've soiled myself."

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Great! (0, Redundant)

FooBarWidget (556006) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728041)

Cheers to all the Slackware developers for delivering this excellent distribution!

Nice! (4, Informative)

bjtuna (70129) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728042)

I wonder how long till The Slackware Administrators' Security Toolkit [www.sastk] will have an 8.1 version.

Anyway, go Patrick!

Re:Nice! (3, Informative)

bjtuna (70129) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728051)

erm, that should have been:

www.sastk.org [sastk.org]

darn typos.

Re:Nice! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728057)

As soon as it gets a proper link?

how many floppies (5, Interesting)

matthew.thompson (44814) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728044)

My first memory of Slackware was installing it off 30 odd floppies - how many does this come on?

M@T :o)

Re:how many floppies (3, Funny)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728075)

264. and they're not in sequential order, unless you opt to do ALL the packages. (...please insert disk 9....please insert disk 83....please insert disk 63...)i really wish my last CD-ROM drive hadn't died on me :(

Re:how many floppies (-1)

TrollBurger (575126) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728144)

Dear god man, you can pick up second hand cd rom drives for under $5 (australian - thats about $2 US). Please, do yourself a favour and get one. The amount of money you would have spent on buying floppy disks far outweights how much any sort of 2nd hand drive would cost...

...unless you were trolling just then... if you were, then here's a goatse.cx [goatse.cx] link just in case, just so i dont feel left out.

cheers

Re:how many floppies (2)

larien (5608) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728076)

IIRC, it was about a dozen when I first tried it, but that was 6-7 years ago. Dunno what it's like now, I'm afraid as after that, I didn't use Linux for a few years and tried Redhat for a bit before sticking to Debian, mainly because of apt-get :)

Please don't take this as an excuse for a distro flamewar; some people prefer Redhat/Suse/Mandrake/whatever, I'm happy with Debian.

Re:how many floppies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728161)

Why do weirdos keep plugging apt-get and debian. Nobody cares what you think, furthermore it might suprise you to know that we already know all about debian. Please take apt-get and stuff it up your bum. Then please come back and tell us how it felt. In the future, please consider that we already know all this shit and your pathetic whining about debian just makes us all sick.

Re:how many floppies (1)

JohnFred (16955) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728080)

They have given up on floppies. Given that the Slackware 8.0 I have at home is on 2CDs and takes around 800Mb (probably a bit more) a quick calculation suggests 556 floppies for all that concentrated slackware goodness.

Not surprising they gave up really, 556 floppies would be a distribution nightmare. Imagine 555 un-numbered floppies arriving in the post. Which one is the 556th missing one?

Re:how many floppies (2)

Surak (18578) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728096)

Which one is the 556th missing one?

Whichever one you don't have. :)

Re:how many floppies (1)

rmgrotkierii (190011) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728155)

Uhhh, seeing how I have the Slackware 8.0 cd next to me, I only count one cd [install cd] and that is all that is needed to install slackware, what do you need that you need to have it on 2 CDs?

Re:how many floppies (1)

JimmyGulp (60100) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728174)

There is a CD with extras on it, I never bothered to download it last time.

Re:how many floppies (1)

rmgrotkierii (190011) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728187)

I've never downloaded that CD myself either, I just download the install cd, burn it, and install it, and if I need X, I just go to here [linuxpackages.net] and search for the package I want to install. *shrugs* What is on the extra cd by the way? :)

Re:how many floppies (1)

JimmyGulp (60100) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728328)

If I told you, I would have to kill you. ;)

Rough Translation: I can't find it to download it. :(

Re:how many floppies (1)

rmgrotkierii (190011) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728402)

Eh, that's alright, I might download the extra cd later this week sometime. It'll give me something to do other than read and waste my summer being unproductive. Hehe. :)

Re:how many floppies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728203)

Some of us support the vendors and actually BOUGHT the two cd set from the slackware store. What a novel idea, huh?

Re:how many floppies (1)

rmgrotkierii (190011) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728259)

And, of course, we will be happy to accept your pre-orders for the Slackware 8.1 official 4 CD-ROM set here

It's a 4 CD set, not 2, even Slackware 8.0 is a 4 CD set if you buy it from the store, what a novel idea. :)

Re:how many floppies (1)

sebol (112743) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728221)

Which one is the 556th missing one?

ops.... errr I think i've overwrite it with 559th

Re:how many floppies (4, Informative)

stikves (127823) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728195)

slackware no longer supports "any" floppy installation.


It used to support full floppy installation before (I guess) 7.0. After that you could only install bas and network series with floppies.


Now they have dropped all floppy support and merged a1, a2, a3.. into a. (a1 a2 were base system floppies).


Anyways go try it. I used pre8.1 images from slackware-current. It realy rocks. If you need floppy installation, you have to copy everything to a hard drive and boot setup from floppies (almost every distro does it this way).

Re:how many floppies (3, Interesting)

forged (206127) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728205)

The first version of Slackware was based on SLS which I used at the time. The first Slaskware 1.x used to fit on ~30 floppies as you describe, and the later versions of the distro would require ~80.

In the lot, there was always one or two floppies with bad sectors. So when we planned our install nights, it was always an event split in 2 parts! (We'd come back the following days with the missing/fixed floppies).

A quick Google search revealed that some sites have (or rather, had) kept the historic distribution here [216.239.51.100] . If you look at the directory structure, the relationship with Slackware is striking (it's the same tree).

Re:how many floppies (2, Interesting)

qurob (543434) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728283)


I downloaded them from a WildCat! BBS, on a 2400bps modem. Thank god for Y-Modem Batch, or whatever it was.

It took me all night. I woke up in the morning, installed it. Typed cd, ls, vi. I wrote a C program (was just leaving Pascal), and waited 7 minutes for the damn thing to compile. I re-installed DOS, and went back to playing Duke Nukem, Tie Fighter, and Prince of Persia.

Whoa there... (3, Funny)

Tranvisor (250175) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728046)

I'm so happy I've soiled myself.

That's what I call "to much information".

Re:Whoa there... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728315)

All your slack are belong to ASSMAN [goatse.cx] !!!!!!!!

Hmmm (0)

Zathruss (451471) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728047)

Kickass, now I just wish my connection was faster...

Re:Hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728475)

Well I have DSL and although my connection can go up to 60kBps I'm only averaging 7kBps or so.

I'll just have to leave it running until tomorrow :)

Slackware is fun (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728050)

I like Slackware. I lke Patrick.

Slackware (-1, Troll)

p3ncap (576608) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728052)

poop smells good!

Re:Slackware (-1)

TrollBurger (575126) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728149)

Not a bad first post (i mean its your very first post).

Perhaps try to put a SUBTLE GOATSEX LINK [goatse.cx] in to your posts in the future.

Great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728055)

I'm so happy. I thought Slack was dead there for awhile. I had been grabbing all the tarballs from slackware-current hoping that would tide me over until I could find another distro...but I shouldn't have lost faith that soon!!!

Woody (5, Funny)

ultrabot (200914) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728066)

I'm so excited I'm getting a Woody...

Or not.

Aagh, the temptation. I feel I *must* get a new distro soon (rh7.3 doesn't quite cut it), and Woody will probably never be released. It's Slackware for me, at least when it gets to the mirrors.

Re:Woody (1, Offtopic)

Per Wigren (5315) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728079)

Try Gentoo [gentoo.org] ! It raawks! :))

Re:Woody (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728185)

I agree with this post. rh7.3 is pathetic and amatuerish. slackware is among the top 2 distros.

HUBBA HUBBA! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728071)

A good sign (5, Funny)

analog_line (465182) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728082)

The Slackware Store has been slashdotted. Good job everyone who's making that server's life hell for a good cause!

Re:A good sign (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728110)

...And doing it with much pleasure!
Slackware still rocks like no other distro does. The thing I always admired of Slack is the way the system is flexable as a rubber band. IMHO more so than Deb or RH (haven't given Gentoo a try though...).

Gratz to the Slackware team!

- MJ

Re:A good sign (1, Offtopic)

analog_line (465182) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728162)

Offtopic? Wha? I don't get it...

Re:A good sign (1)

Charm (313273) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728193)

Actually it probably went down before slashdot got there.

Whoever modded you Offtopic was stupid.

My first distro (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728084)

Slack was the first version of Linux I installed... version 3, I think. The next one I tried was Red Hat.

But in the end, both disappointed me and I found my way to FreeBSD. Not a troll, just the truth.

Re:My first distro (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728218)

I'm sorry. It actually is an off-topic troll. Just saying it is not a troll doesn't change that.

Re:My first distro (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728256)

Still it is true, linux is a diappointment, unless you are a newbie. After you get a few months experience, you too will realize that linux is just a bunch of over-hyped fluff. Then you can move on and find something better( like VMS ).

Timing is everything (4, Interesting)

mustprotectdata (585131) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728085)

I'm glad to see a distribution that is releasing at "the right" time. RedHat, the normal distie of choice, if only because of it's market dominance, seems to have developed the knack of releasing just too early.

i.e. - gcc (where is v3.1)?
- mozilla (not v1)
- kde 3.0.0 (effectively a late beta)

etc...

What I really want is the latest, reasonably stable version of everything. i.e I want to be current but not bleeding edge.

Go Patrick

Re:Timing is everything (5, Insightful)

Charm (313273) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728243)

Really the best thing about Slackware is that it is like C. Not like assembly so that you have to do everything. But not like higher level languages where everthing is done with magic tricks. When was the last time you changed a setting and your distro changed it back. That sort of behaviour is unlikely on Slackware.

The user has full control. There is no crappy config tools to get in the way. This is why it is so good for learning Unix and Linux because you have access to the raw system.

In slackware if I want to change the bitdepth of X windows I have to edit it with a text file. At first this might seem silly but when a Redhat user is trying to do something complicated his fancy tools hold him back. Slack users do not have that problem, they understand how the system works.

Slackware is also very stable thats why it doesn't use GCC 3.1 out of the box.

List of unofficial mirrors here (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728087)

rsync://slackware.orbital.us/slackware/slackware-8 . /
rsync://slackware.orbital.us/slackware/slackware -8 . -iso/
ftp://slackware.orbital.us/slackware/slackware-8 .1 /
ftp://slackware.orbital.us/slackware/slackware-8 .1 -iso/

rsync://rsync.devney.net/slackware/slackware-8.1 -i so/
ftp://devney.net/slackware-8.1-iso/

rsync://drazi.ifjf.uib.no/slackware/slackware-8. 1/
rsync://drazi.ifjf.uib.no/slackware/slackware-8. 1- iso

ftp://inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu/linux-distro s/ slackware/slackware-8.1/
ftp://inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu/linux-distro s/ slackware/slackware-8.1-iso/

rsync://rsync.rez-gif.supelec.fr/pub/slackware/s la ckware-current/
ftp://ftp.rez-gif.supelec.fr/pub/slackware/slack wa re-current/

rsync://closeedge.net/slackware/slackware-8.1/
ftp://closeedge.net/pub/mirrors/ftp.slackware.co m/ slackware-8.1/

ftp://ftp.linux.ucla.edu/pub/slackware/slackware -8 . /

rsync://mindflux.dns2go.com/slackware/slackware- 8. 1/

rsync://stalecracker.org/slackware/slackware-8.1 /
ftp://stalecracker.org:2121/pub/slackware-8.1/
rsync://diethanks.dyndns.org/slackware/

rsync://alphageek.dyndns.org/slackware/slackware -8 . /
rsync://alphageek.dyndns.org/slackware/slackware -8 . -iso/
ftp://alphageek.dyndns.org/slackware/slackware-8 .1 /
ftp://alphageek.dyndns.org/slackware/slackware-8 .1 -iso/

It is time (1)

sinistre (59027) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728097)

It is time to back up all that useless data. Format the harddrives and REINSTALL Slackware! I haven't been this excited since the 30th of June last year :)

reinstall? (1, Interesting)

stalwart (302922) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728160)

Format the harddrives and REINSTALL Slackware!

are you nuts? why format and reinstall? use pkgtool and such (upgradpkg, installpkg) to install/upgrade your packages/libs.


this is an advanced os, it can do things most can't, such as not suck ass (or need to be 'reinstalled' whenever a newer version comes out).

most distros could learn a lot from slack.

Re:reinstall? (2, Informative)

zloppy303 (411053) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728274)

this time i recommend you DO reformat your drives, with a journalling filesystem :) slack 8.1 supports 'em all (jfs,xfs,reiserfs,ext3fs)

i'm going for the jfs...

I've had it, good riddance... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728098)

Slackware makes the frontpage yet FreeBSD goes unheard despite a larger user base. I've had it, good riddance... News for Biased nerds, Stuff that doesn't matter.

Re:I've had it, good riddance... (2)

friedmud (512466) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728158)

Really?? I could have sworn I saw a BSD story hit the frontpage a day or two ago. FreeBSD 4.6, I think, had come out.

Slashdot has always had a more pro linux stance - thus them getting incorporated into the Open Source Development Network (OSDN). That said, I think they report pretty fairly. It is hard for me to believe that BSD has a larger user base than linux, and since linux is "all the rave" right now it should be understandable that there would be more stories on it - just as there were more news stories on BSD before linux came out....

Derek

last post (-1, Troll)

super-flex-o-matic (517410) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728100)

last post d00d!

Slackware is dead, my ass (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728102)

Linux how Linux was intended. A single CD of beautiful and clean functionality. Minimal, stable and secure - and yet manageable. Slackware should be required for all Linux newbies. AFTER learning to edit rc.files and inetd.conf with vi, AFTER you've mastered ls, AFTER you've learned to download and compile, THEN you may play with KDE. Think how much better the world would be.

Re:Slackware is dead, my ass (1, Troll)

q-soe (466472) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728139)

Think how much better the world would be.


Yep a lot more windows user and linux haters - slackware is not a product to learn linux on for beginners - it is however the best damn Linux out there and once you know a bit about linux you will love it - but please dont install it as your first attempt at linux - if you have only ever used linux then do yourself a favour and start out with something user friendly like mandrake, red hat or lycoris. Slackware and Debian are oses that dont suffer fools lightly..

Re:Slackware is dead, my ass (2, Interesting)

SealBeater (143912) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728179)


Yep a lot more windows user and linux haters - slackware is not a product to learn linux on for beginners - it is however the best damn Linux out there and once you know a bit about linux you will love it - but please dont install it as your first attempt at linux


Sorry, no offense, but that is bullshit. I started off on slackware, downloaded 50 floppies worth over 3 days on a 14.4 and never looked back. It's the only way to properly learn. I've been using slackware ever since and have had no reason to use anything else. If the only way a person is willing to use and learn linux is to have a gui-fied windows clone in front of them, quite frankly I would rather they never make the attempt.

Slackware and Debian are oses that dont suffer fools lightly..

Thank god.

SealBeater

Re:Slackware is dead, my ass (1)

ant_slayer (516684) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728248)


I'm guessing you were somewhat computer literate when you downloaded those 50 floppies too, eh? For those of us who have computed so long that our brains work like stack-machines, sure, a 'pop-the-hood and tweak' distribution is just fine for learning. But for someone who's just tired of Windows locking up and wants to surf and check their email, should they have to delve into the arcane mysteries of a (admit it) complex operating system? I don't think so.

I am not convinced, unlike many others, that Linux obligates someone to become an incredible super-ultra-uber-geek. I am astounded at the lack of computer literacy some people are willing to live with but -- read that carefully -- they are willing to live with it! For those for whom the computer is a utility and not a lifestyle, let's let them use it it that way. There is no "proper" way to learn Linux.


-Josh O-

Re:Slackware is dead, my ass (1)

elveu (573261) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728326)

i agree, far to many people here can't see why people wouldn't have the same computer needs as them. while i do think that linux would be preferable for most people (since they often say they hate windows and don't seem to have any need that linux dosn't offer like games) i don't think they have to become a coder, a geek or any other sterotype attached to linux

Re:Slackware is dead, my ass (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728252)

Ah yes. The typical geek lost in his computer world. I hate to tell you but the rest of the world isn't like you. They are not looking to learn Linux. They want to use it. 28 Million AOL users will testify to the fact that people like things very simple and dumbed down.

And if you really wanted to learn linux then you would use Linux From Scratch like a real uber-geek.

I'm just glad that when the revolution comes, people like you will be at home reading about it on slashdot.

Re:Slackware is dead, my ass (2)

ishark (245915) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728275)

Sorry, no offense, but that is bullshit. I started off on slackware, downloaded 50 floppies worth over 3 days on a 14.4 and never looked back. It's the only way to properly learn.

This is actually the *problem* with Slackware/Debian. I want to learn, so I don't mind reading documentation, but most of the people I know don't care at all, they just want "click-n-run" and (evidently) they can handle all the insanities of Win in order to get it. Right now I'm running Mandrake 8.2 ("click-n-run", but careful with upgrades) as dekstop and debian-stable (long install/config, but 0-time updating) as server.
When I propose linux to one of my win-friends I always go for Mandrake, ALWAYS, since I know that they'd run scared at the first debian message of the type "You must now decide which modules to load into your kernel"....
As for Slackware, it was my first distro (3.0 I think? 1.0.2x kernel, anyway) and it may well be possible that I go back to it one day or another.... debian is nice, but I feel it too "rigid", and Mandrake is not always so tolerant of manual-config-file-editing.

Re:Slackware is dead, my ass (1)

elveu (573261) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728290)

well distros like mandrake and redhat do more of the work for you so you don't have to learn as much at the begining and then progressivly learn more. i started with red hat and while i sure as hell was glad to get away from it i do think it was a good way to learn. but i guess i would have learnt faster if i started with slackware. but if you're trying to get more people to use linux then advise them to use red hat or mandrake, since if they don't really want to change then they won't like being thrown straight into deep water

Re:Slackware is dead, my ass (2)

13Echo (209846) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728376)

It is strange that you say that. A lot of people (including myself) have found Slackware to be easier to install than Red Hat. Even Lycoris isn't foolproof (chokes on startup if it doesn't like your hardware and can't autodetect it). There are ways around anything, but I like things simple and to the point. Slackware offers that to me. Nothing else does. I like the other distributions, but I feel that many of them are only for people that are intimidated by using the console (which is o.k., actually). The other distributions make things all the more difficult at times with proprietary tools that don't always work.

Re:Slackware is dead, my ass (4, Insightful)

smitty_one_each (243267) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728346)

Slackware should be required for all Linux newbies.

I disagree. Slackware was over my head whenever I tried it--7.x or something. The idea of a fistful of ASCII .conf files in standard locations that control everything was too simple and obvious for me to grasp. Forgive me, Father--I did Windows.
Now that I have spent some time with a RH distro, and grasp *nix-think to a sufficient depth, I'm strongly considering a return to Slack...

A question for the community: the reason to go for Slack over, say, Gentoo, is that Slack arrives as canned object files ready to install, whereas Gentoo assumes we have a pipe, time and skill to pull down all the source over TCP/IP and compile from scratch, no? In other words, Gentoo requires a higher level of skill than Slack to build and tweak?

...dons asbestos underwear...

Not only that, but... (0, Offtopic)

13Echo (209846) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728348)

It has more built-in support for ATA RAID controllers.

Do you know what this means? Bye bye NT!

Just in Time (1)

Tux2000 (523259) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728106)

They released it just in time. I have ordered a new server, it will be delivered not befre I've downloaded the new slackware. Now guess which OS will run on that machine.

Tux2000

why slackware is slackware and redhat is redhat (5, Insightful)

jukal (523582) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728111)

Slackware on 8.1 [slackware.com] :
Highlights of this release include KDE 3.0.1, GNOME 1.4.1 (with new additions like Evolution), the long-awaited Mozilla 1.0 browser, support for many new filesystems like ext3, ReiserFS, JFS, and XFS, and support for several new SCSI and ATA RAID controllers.

Redhat on 7.3 [redhat.com] :
The new features in Red Hat Linux 7.3 Personal offer everything needed for a personal productivity workstation, from installation through system maintenance.

See any difference on the way the message is put? If not, try and make your grandma decide which one contains features that she can benefit from. :)) But then again, slackware is not probably even aiming for world dominance. :)

The difference (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728301)

Slackware's description contains some information, while Redhat's description is just a markedroid phrase?

Slackware mirrors (2)

q-soe (466472) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728113)

It should be on AARNET AU by toomorrow all things going well - so the aussies can get it at least.

It might be time.... (1)

HowlinMad (220943) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728133)

for my to try installing slack on a spare box I have...

Alan Thicke DEAD, (-1)

Alan_Thicke (553655) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728134)

I just heard the sad news on CBC radio. Comedy actor/writer Alan Thicke was found dead in his home this morning. Even if you never liked his work, you can appreciate what he did for 80's television. Truly a Canadian icon. [slashdot.org]
He will be missed :(



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Show me that smile again.
Ooh show me that smile.
Don't waste another minute on your crying.
We're nowhere near the end.
We're nowhere near.
The best is ready to begin.

As long as we got each other
We got the world
Sitting right in our hands.
Baby rain or shine;
All the time.
We got each other
Sharing the laughter and love.

Why new Versions? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728152)

Why do you guys keep installing new distros each and every day?
I do a base system, then install most from source and update this once in a while, when I'm sure, I NEED the new version.
My system is stable and fast and unbloated. I don't have nice gadgets blowing my configuration.
I'm happy. You guys must have "versionitis" like most Windows-Users have. ("NEW VERSION! DOWNLOAD!")

Re:Why new Versions? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728154)

If you have to ask, you really have no business being on this site. Go back to zdnet.com where you belong, loser.

Re:Why new Versions? (1)

elveu (573261) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728244)

yes well quite possibly it's just an excuse to get excited. but as we all know keep getting the new ones untill you get one that's bloated, unstable or crap in any other way. but yes i agree, for most people there is no compelling need to get the new version but i'll get it on the off chance it's better then if it's not i'll just re install slackware 8.0

Re:Why new Versions? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728270)

I don't think I belong to zdnet :) (sorry for anonymous, but I don't have an account here) - all my boxes at home run Linux since a long tim (1.2.X Kernel) and here at work I have ~100 of them.
I used to have RH 6.2, but since 7.0 they got REALLY bloated and admin-unfriendly; company-decision to go with RH, so I'm fucked up.
At home I ran first Suse (at that time, slackware-based), then put up something for myself.
The crashed and reinstalled from RH 6.2 with now most programs being self-compiled.

I still search for a distro that doesn't have 100 deps on a single packet, where installing a packet won't change my whole system and the packet is compiled with pentium-opt. At least those that HAVE to be fast; others I prefer with -Os.
You see ... LFS is my choice.
And that goals DEFINATELY let me stay away from any RedHat, SuSE and Mandrake.
Think, i keep cooking them myself.

excuse me but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728167)

how much of a speed difference is there between Slackware and Gentoo ? I'd like to know.

Re:excuse me but (2, Interesting)

Zeek (11740) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728349)

Gentoo compiles EVERYTHING specificly foryour system as you download. Slackware is just a basic i386 compiled (no enhancements in the compiling) so gentoo would in theory be faster if you can get it to run right in the first try
Zeek
now how does grub like 3 operating systems!

somewhere to buy in NL? (1)

MonoSynth (323007) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728169)

Hey does someone know where I can buy Slack in the Netherlands? After using it for over two years, I'd like to pay for it to help the Slack-guys :)

But. hey. Why didn't they wait for Gnome 2.0? Or do we have to wait a year for a Slack-release with Gnome2?

Re:somewhere to buy in NL? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728239)

slackware.com store

Re:somewhere to buy in NL? (1)

MonoSynth (323007) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728293)

tnx. but I already found it @ this shop [mensys.nl]

Great (3, Funny)

tsa (15680) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728206)

I just downloaded 8.0 for a colleague. Now we can start all over again... :-)

HAHAHAHA ! Slackware is dead ! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728208)

As I am a Frenchie and proud to be, use Mandrake instead !

Fucking Slackware, Fucking SuSE (Nazis Distros) Fucking Stupid American Distros (Redhat) !

France go on !

Nazis Distro? (0, Offtopic)

MonoSynth (323007) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728231)

...talking about nationalism...

Re:HAHAHAHA ! Slackware is dead ! (0)

DataCannibal (181369) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728272)

Are you enjoying the world cup ?

Re:HAHAHAHA ! Slackware is dead ! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728477)

Not at all, but I think that the Nazis team (Germany) will beat you.

I just want to remember you thaht the French team have already won the World Cup, not the USA Team !

VIVE LA FRANCE !

Re:HAHAHAHA ! Slackware is dead ! (1, Insightful)

ajmarks (447148) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728334)

Why the hell would you brag about being French? That's like saying, "I am a snooty man who does not bathe and who would prefer surrendering without a fight." The Warsaw ghetto withstood the Nazis longer than your entire nation.

Q: What's the French battle cry?
A: "We surrender!"

Only one CD? (2)

wackysootroom (243310) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728269)

I cant believe that they can still fit this on one CD! Keep up the good work Patrick!

Re:Only one CD? (0)

zloppy303 (411053) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728303)

well uhm... i read over the readme in the isolinux dir, and it appears that if you want to create your own bootable cd, you have to leave out either kde or gnome...
i'm wondering what the iso looks like, is it kde or gnome??

ISO is missing some packages. (3, Informative)

wackysootroom (243310) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728447)

From the readme in the 8.1-iso directory.

Note that for space reasons, the KDEI (KDE i18n) series could not be
included on this ISO, and I apologize for the inconvenience. If you need
KDE translations, you can pick them up here:

ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-8. 1/slackware/kdei/

Other things that aren't on this disc that you might need to pick up
"a la carte" include the boot floppy images and rootdisks (if you can boot
this CD-ROM, you won't need these), ZipSlack, and the source code. All
of these extras are available from our FTP site:

ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-8. 1/

Or, pick up the official 4 CD-ROM Slackware disc set here:

http://store.slackware.com

Enjoy!

Patrick Volkerding
volkerdi@slackware.com

"so happy I've soiled myself" (2)

wiredog (43288) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728277)

Ummm. Thanks for sharing that tidbit from your personal life. So Slack makes you lose control of your bodily functions? "This is not a distro for using, it is a distro for laying aside and avoiding."

Gentoo (1)

daserver (524964) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728278)

I really like the minimal install that slackware comes with, but I also love the debian package system or the bsd package system. If you want both try gentoo [gentoo.org] .

Mozilla (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728279)

I'm starting to get involved with the Mozilla project doing volunteer QA stuff for them. They seem like a nice crowd. Does Slackware have any such need?

At Last I can make a decision... (0)

idfrsr (560314) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728299)

Mandrake, RedHat, Slackware, SuSE, FreeBSD.... Ahhhh

the linux hacker's wet dream....

Jenna Jameson, Raylene, Pamela Anderson, Taylor Hanes....

sorry ladies, kernels await!

A few pointers... (5, Informative)

NoMercy (105420) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728302)

Please do not download the ISO's from the primary slackware site, it only has a 6Mb/s bandwidth and all it takes is a few people with cable modems or DSL to totally flood it, then there is no bandwidth left for the mirrors to use and thus the rest of us have to wait longer, only check the primary site for checksums and file sizes so you can later check if your local mirror has got the full ISO transfered.

Why? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728307)

Why do you cheer about this! Do you ENJOY pain? I installed $lackware on my machine and it was torture! My computer was weezing and crying that i installed a Operating System worse than windows! It has no proper packge management, you just unzip tgzes and hope for the best. It has a half assed text based setup tool and and only supports the obsolete and unreliable ext/2 file systems. You have to edit at least 2000 text files to get the damn thing working and it only supports systems made before 1993!

HINT : Go and buy [redhat.com] yourself a real [mandrakesoft.com] distrobution [www.suse.de] or download [linuxiso.org] a real [debian.org] one [lesbian.mine.nu]

Re:Why? (0)

zloppy303 (411053) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728342)

guess why this is an anonymous coward...

this version come's with ALL journalling filesystems, I think deadrat only supports reiser and their "own" ext3...

unzip tgzes??? clearly you don't know what yer talking about! i suggest you move to redmond or something...

Why as why? (4, Interesting)

sonnyjz (463383) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728344)

Are you joking?

Slackware is easy as 1-2-3 to install and takes about 20 minutes to complete.

You say it supports obsolete ext/2 fs? I beg to differ, supports all of the filesystems that the 2.4.x supports. READ THE README for more information. Or do you ignore documentation?

You say you have to edit at least 2000 files? I also beg to differ. You don't have to edit a thing, but I suggest you edit a handful of the rc files to make sure you aren't loading a ton of unneccasary modules and services.

Finally recompiling your kernel is a good idea. Or do you also ignore meaningless tasks like that?

Doing all of the above is done in all distro's for any person that runs linux or is interested in running a tight ship for their favorite distro.

As far are your *hints* go I got one for you.
Read documentation and get a clue before you attempt to bash something you have no idea about.

Believe me, you won't sound as simple as you really are.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728370)

Thank you for your opinion. Now go back to your Windows 95 machine and play Myst like a good little troll.

Re:Why? (0)

MonoSynth (323007) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728391)

Hey, we're all masochists! If we weren't we didn't even invent computers. Slack is the ultimate computer OS because it's character fits nicely to that of a computer. If you don't like Slack, you don't like computers.

Soiling (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3728347)

I'm so happy I've soiled myself.

Me too, but I did it on purpose!

Seems so long ago (3, Insightful)

Graspee_Leemoor (302316) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728351)

A week today it will be exactly 6 years since I first installed Linux. The distribution that I used was Slackware 3.

After using it for a bit and becoming more acquainted with linux however, I could see that even the latest downloadable version of Slackware (I got 3.0.0 from the book "Linux Unleashed") had really old versions of things, so I "upgraded" to Redhat, which in those days, at least on #linux was the leetest of the leet.

At this point I could ask if slackware is more up-to-date these days, but then that would be a very "Ask Slashdot" thing to do, since I could just go and check for myself.

graspee

And... (Linux Counter) (1)

cefek (148764) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728390)

...does Slackware still want you to register at linux counter with that little "magic" e-mail message you receive as root?

What I don't like about Slackware ... (2)

Skapare (16644) | more than 12 years ago | (#3728452)

... I fix for myself. Slackware is so much easier to do things like rewriting all the init scripts. I don't have the time to create my own distribution, so I very much appreciate all the valuable work Pat V and others put into making this. Now to wait for the store to be un-slashdotted so I can put in my order for a couple of box sets.

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