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Inside The World's Most Advanced Computer

timothy posted more than 12 years ago | from the preview-of-2026-ipaq dept.

Hardware 272

Junky191 writes: "Just came across an informational page for the Earth Simulator computer, which provides nice graphics of the layout of the machine and its support structure, as well as details about exactly what types of problems it solves. Fascinating for the engineering problems tackled- how would you organize a 5,120 processor system capable of 40Tflops, and of course don't forget about the 10TB of shared memory." Take note -- donour writes: "well, the new list of supercomputer rankings is up today. I have to say that the Earth Simulator is quite impressive, from both a performance and architectural standpoint."

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most advanced post (-1)

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (537317) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741813)

early raging homosexuality

NICE FP! (-1)

DonkeyHote (521235) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741877)

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AC's Are on Your ASSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741816)


Biotches! I'll 0wn the CLIT soon

You AC's have no hope of winning. (-1)

DonkeyHote (521235) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741888)

Under the joined power of the CUNT and the CLiT the pitiful forces of the AC's are doomed! You should really take your non-FP getting ass out of your moms basment and go raid her panty drawer one more time you fucking AC scumbag!

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Re:You AC's have no hope of winning. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3742020)

Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope.

Re:You AC's have no hope of winning. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3742041)

Get yer tits out and I'll think about it.

beats this (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741817)

beats my laptop by far

mod parent up!!!!!!!!!111 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741818)

frist post

i luv cowboyneal

U R HOT

Apples and Oranges (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741821)

Isn't it fairly difficult these days in terms of the specilisation that occurs at this end of the market to really compare between different machines?
Surely purpose is the best way to organise the rankings?

Earth Simulator? (5, Funny)

Artifice_Eternity (306661) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741822)

Didn't the mice in H2G2 already build such a computer? I think it was called... the Earth.

Will the Earth Simulator have the nice fjords by Slartibartfast? :)

whatever the case is... (1)

systmc (92469) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741979)

Seems kinda silly if we already know what the answer is. Hmm... double checking, perhaps?

You know what i think? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741825)

Rockets Rock

Uhhhhhhhh... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741828)

Imagine a beo*SLAP*

bold name (1, Interesting)

SlugLord (130081) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741831)

"Earth Simulator" is a rather bold name for a supercomputer, especially when you consider it probably can't even simulate the global weather fast enough to predict it (or even tell you what the weather is in real time). The computer looks impressive, but I think they should have stuck to a more abstract name rather than what I see as false advertisement.

Re:bold name (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741876)

" but I think they should have stuck to a more abstract name rather than what I see as false advertisement."

Yea because we all know that all the other companies only use product names which describe their products capabilities exactly. When you pushing that much processing power around you can dam well call it whatever you want! Did you even look at the numbers?

Re:bold name (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741919)

I think SlugLord would have prefered an abstract name like:

Hyper eForce SR27000/MPP+ SX-Turbo-BigAssCoreDumps

Re:bold name (2, Funny)

wondergeek (220755) | more than 12 years ago | (#3742040)

What about: Super ASCI White Turbo Champions Special Edition

I'd like to learn how to code for this beast (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741834)

So that in 15 years I'll already know how to code for the PlayStation 6.

Re:I'd like to learn how to code for this beast (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741936)

Playstation 6? I've got an old Altair homebrew you can practice on, if that's the case.

Why? (-1)

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (537317) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741835)

Who is stupid enough to build an Earth simulator? Unless you came from another planet, you have two feet grounded on Earth. Just dig a fucking hole if you want to see what's going on down there.

Re:Why? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741851)

"Hello, my name is MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, and I have a moldy cock superglued to my tongue. This is why I am such a whiney idiot."

Re:Why? (-1)

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (537317) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741882)

Thanks for the shameless plug. For those who don't know yet. Parent post is a quote from my latest book titled "Tongue of a Moldy Cock". Trilogy of the testicular series. A special nude picture of your mom on the cover.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741950)

Hahahahahaha

Not a Beowulf cluster comment, but... (0, Interesting)

rob-fu (564277) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741841)

if you could install the clients on this thing, you could find the cure to cancer, crack RC5-64 and OGR-25, decipher all of the SETI@Home work units (but you still wouldn't find any aliens :)...hell, you could solve ALL of the distributed computing applications on this machine.

Stating the obvious, that's a shitload of CPU power. :)

Re:Not a Beowulf cluster comment, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741859)

yeah, but will it play games man!?!? Who the hell cares about modelling the earth when what we really need is a really big multi-user MMORPG to play. Finally this may be the machine big enought to finally do the job right!

Parallel computing != distributed computing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741976)

That "shitload of CPU power" comes with an expensive highspeed network which you don't need for distributed computing applications.

For the benefit of humanity! (0)

opti6600 (582782) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741998)

I personally agree with you one hundred percent in regard to your thoughts. All of these supercomputers dedicated to abstract tasks like climate forecasting, protein folding, and things of that nature are all and good, but they do very little to help the human race as it is, right now. I propose that you take Blue Gene, and the Earth Simulator, and ASCI White (which is used for war of all things), and port clients for distributed computing applications to them. My proposal is based primarily on the United Devices Cure for Cancer project. Take this computer, let it run for a few days, and you have yourself a perfect list. The same procedure could be applied to AIDS, anything, as long as someone could write a similar program for it. It's great that Blue Gene is helping scientists learn against their will about protein folding, and that information could very well help us in the future. The problem however lies in the fact that this is a truly massive amount of processing power that could be put towards better use. You could research anything, just get three teams: -Team One: researches applications for the processing power of a computer that scale, that pertain to the immediate survival and improvement of the human race -Team Two: builds a distributed computing application to solve the problem that Team One comes up with -Team Three: applies the regular x86 compilation of the Team Two distributed computing applications to supercomputers For instance, you could use Blue Gene to solve work units, and something like ASCI White to feed them to it. But seriously people, we need to rig something that helps us, not just wastes taxpayer or private sector money on another extraneous project.

huh? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741842)

Just came acroos an informational page

Really, stuff like this just makes Slashdot look dumb. I mean dumber.

Dammmmmm you some fast mudda fukas (-1, Offtopic)

perthstyle (567666) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741848)

..first thing I thought of was the old "imagine a Beo.." joke (yep, that old chestnut). Oh well.

base 10 measurement of memory (2, Insightful)

SlugLord (130081) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741852)

I guess this is a *little* off-topic, but this really bugs me. They're building this really cool supercomputer, and they list the memory with base-10 prefixes instead of the standard base-2. I mean I can almost understand when dell does that with hard drives (it pumps up the number for advertising purposes), but it's just silly in a scientific arena.

Hmmm.. (4, Funny)

Peridriga (308995) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741853)

Could you imagine a beouwolf..... Ahh fuck it..

Re:Hmmm.. (-1)

TrollBurger (575126) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741896)

Thankyou for generating Slashdot autoresponse #82

GIVE IT UP! YOU'RE A FUCKING PANTY FACED LOSER! (-1)

DonkeyHote (521235) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741913)

You're pitiful attempt at humor was laughable, really I'm peeing in my pants just thinking about how truly stupid you are. I hope that god takes a shit on your cornflakes and makes you eat them with a generous helping of his special sauce!

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OS'es for the supercomputers... (4, Interesting)

dnaumov (453672) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741861)

I am not going to ask "Does this run Linux ?" because it obviously does not, but can anyone point to some good resources on what kind of Operating Systems do these monster machines run ? Are they some kind of a UNIX ? Or are they some elite breed of OS that mortal humans have no chance of understanding ? Linkage appreciated.

Re:OS'es for the supercomputers... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741884)

DOS

Re:OS'es for the supercomputers... (1)

rob-fu (564277) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741895)

Here [llnl.gov] is a link for ASCI Red @ Sandia National Labs.

From the article:
The system uses two operating systems to make the computer both familiar to the user (UNIX) and non-intrusive for the scalable application (Cougar). And it makes use of Commercial Commodity Off The Shelf (CCOTS) technology to maintain affordability.

Hmm, I see one familiar OS in there...

Re:OS'es for the supercomputers... (3, Funny)

binaryDigit (557647) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741907)

The IBM units run AIX, the DEC^H^H^HCompaq^H^H^H^H^H^HHP systems run Tru64 Unix, which I believe is derived (or simply renamed) Ultrix. Don't know what ES runs though, maybe extended mode DOS 6.2?

Re:OS'es for the supercomputers... (2)

Elbereth (58257) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741956)

You know, that "^H" thing was funny the first quadrillion times I saw it, but since I saw your post, it has suddenly stopped being amusing. Might I suggest ^? for your next post? I'm quite sure I'll find that amusing for the next quadrillion times I see it.

Re:OS'es for the supercomputers... (2)

binaryDigit (557647) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741978)

Sorry, but belive it or not, I've yet to see anyone do it. Didn't realize it was already hackneyed, though I guess I should have known since it was kinda an obvious thing and all. How about Digital Compackard Corp?

Re:OS'es for the supercomputers... (1)

vespazzari (141683) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741987)

could someone explain the ^H thing? Im not getting it. thanx

Re:OS'es for the supercomputers... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3742003)

silly boy^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hsilly boy

Re:OS'es for the supercomputers... (2)

binaryDigit (557647) | more than 12 years ago | (#3742009)

Ahhh young man, sit down and let me explain to you how when I was your age I had to walk 20 miles through the snow uphill to be able to use a pc (my apologies if you're not a young man :)

Whenever you see the caret (^) followed by a letter, it typically means CTRL+letter. So ^H would mean that holding CTRL while pressing the H. These are ASCII codes that used to do various things on terminals. In the case of CTRL-H, it would be interpreted as BackSpace. ^G is another common one and causes your BELl to ring. Try it from your command line (even works in Windoze). Look up an ASCII chart for those values less than 32 to see what they do.

Good Ol' Days (2)

Ami Ganguli (921) | more than 12 years ago | (#3742018)

Back in the BBS days you could enter [Control-H]'s into a message and they would become part of the actual text. That way the reader could actually see the words appear and be back-spaced over and re-written. It was a cool effect. Of course it worked better at 300-2400 baud, where you could actually see the characters being drawn.

Re:OS'es for the supercomputers... (0)

wondergeek (220755) | more than 12 years ago | (#3742022)

It's running Windows XP Embedded with IE removed so it will boot up faster. Duh!

the meaning of life (0)

Axeus (540870) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741862)

I thought the Earth was a supercomputer?
Btw, the the meaning of life is 42.

Re:the meaning of life (1)

Oily Tuna (542581) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741945)

a) The HHGTTG is fiction
b) Just because something is a [fictional] supercomputer does not preclude the existance of another, superer computer simulating it.

Re:the meaning of life (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3742032)

Why do people constantly quote this stupid book in every damn slashdot story? Yeah, it was funny and I read it two or three times over the years. But let it go, man...

Just came "ACROOS"? (0, Offtopic)

reynolds_john (242657) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741873)

You don't say.

Why (1)

alphaCoward (563425) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741879)

What does: "It is now under development aiming to start from FY2001." mean? am i missing something here...

Re:Why (-1)

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (537317) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741918)

It means that slashdot is reporting a year old news. Add to that some misspellings and you get the recipe for success.

Dammit! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741880)

Missed fr0st pist while receiving oral pleasure from the mothers of all CLITs.

I have a dream (0, Informative)

perthstyle (567666) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741885)

..my friend called Richard will actually take his cock out of his own ass one day! Hi Nanna!

Where would the SETI project rank? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741890)

If we counted the average speed of all the SETI volunteers over time, does anyone have an idea where it would rank?

Re:Where would the SETI project rank? (2, Informative)

willpost (449227) | more than 12 years ago | (#3742012)

"How does the computing power of Seti@home compare with existing supercomputers?"
"The most powerful computer, IBM's ASCI White, is rated at 12 TeraFLOPS and costs $110 million. SETI@home currently gets about 15 TeraFLOPs and has cost $500K so far"

Earth Simulator Project Total peak performance: 40 Tera FLOPS.

Of course the systems' architecture is different so using the speed to evaluate processing power is difficult.

There's a TFlop chart on the earth development button.

Simulating the Earth down to square kilometers will be impressive.

Eniac... (3, Interesting)

chuckw (15728) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741894)

What is really amazing is that in 50-60 years, this amount of computing power will easily fit within the confines of the standard PC case (assuming such a thing even exists 50-60 years from now). Remember ENIAC...

the real question is... (4, Funny)

doooras (543177) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741897)

how many FPS does this bitch get in Quake III?

Re:the real question is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741941)

What is the refresh rate of its monitor?

Re:the real question is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741974)

Actually most of these would be slower than my cheap -o PC. They are usually designed to do a lot of stuff quickly rather than 1 thing really fast. So they could run 10,000 instances of Quake, although the question why would come up, but one instance is unlikely to run much faster, than 100 FPS at 1600x1200.

The Birth of the CUNT! (-1)

DonkeyHote (521235) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741901)

The Birth of the CUNT. The CUNT are a group of Trolls known as Collective Userbase of Nationalist Trolls. We (The CUNT) fight the biggest threat to our great nation the AC trolls, it is out purpose to seek and destroy all AC's in thier hiding places. We will smoke them out of thier holes, this will be a long and glorious battle. It will not be an easy fight as the AC's don't use conventional methods, but we MUST prevail in the name of civilized society. Long live the CUNT! We respect the work done by our CLiT brethren and will work with them in destroying the AC threat.

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Re:The Birth of the CUNT! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741904)

I love nice wide cunts.

Re:The Birth of the CUNT! (-1)

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (537317) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741923)

Did you see the picture? She has a nice cunt.

Ahh.. (0, Offtopic)

KarmaBitch (562896) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741902)

But, can it figure out why Cowboy Neal always wins the polls? Hmm... Ya know... Some things are probably best left unsolved.

algorithm development (3, Interesting)

FrenZon (65408) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741912)

This is a question, and not a statement

While this does a nice job of crunching numbers, how do they know that their algorithms are any good at doing what they do? Or are they trying to simulate things that aren't continuously kicked around by chaos theory?

I ask because I've been looking at dynamics in my spare time, and simulating something as small as cigarette smoke accurately seems impossible (although I must say Jos Stam and Co did a nice job of making it look real). So it seems a bit bewildering to see something trying to simulate the earth, even if only at a macro level.

Re:algorithm development (2, Insightful)

Oily Tuna (542581) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741933)

simulating something as small as cigarette smoke

Ah .... but they're simulating big things. Big things are easier to simulate than little things, not harder.

Re:algorithm development (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741981)

I think what you mean is, more general things are easier to simulate than detailed things. Nothing to do with big or small.

Re:algorithm development (1)

mfago (514801) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741972)

They validate the algorithms using experimental data.

The ASCI computers for instance are undoubtedly being validated against the last few nuclear tests.

This is harder than it might sound.

BTW "big things are easier to simulate than small things" (in another reply) is utter crap.

Goes to show you though that using "off-the-shelf" hardware is not necessarily the best thing to do.

Re:algorithm development (1)

lingqi (577227) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741997)

I also believe that they don't know if their algorithms are good, just as you said.

one of the purposes they said was "Establishment of simulation technology with 1km resolution."

Probabbly use some old data and see if they can predict a little bit into the future with reasonable accuracy.

as a side note: on the "problem it solves" page, notice how many "seismicity" related items there are (% wise)! i think the true reason they want this thing is to predict earthquakes. i don't blame them; Tokyo is expecting a "big hit", and considering almost 1/2 of the japanese population lives there, probabbly even more than that in terms of $$ in japan -- it's a good idea they are trying to predict these things.

p.s. Japan experiences small quakes almost daily -- most of them cannot be felt; but it means they have tons of data to verify their simulations against.

Re:algorithm development (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3742048)

seismicity...

Yeah; that would also explain 'Earth' Simulator...
For that they really need to simulate (the physics & mechanics of) Earth...

Good luck!

Re:algorithm development (5, Informative)

lowLark (71034) | more than 12 years ago | (#3742004)

The easiest way to validate these types of prediction mechanisms is to feed them only part of your data set and see how well it predicts your remaining dataset. For example, if you have an ocean temperature data set from 1920 to the present, you might start by feeding it 1920-1992 and seeing how well its predictions for then past ten years hold up to you actual data. You may think that the known data set it too small for accurate predictions, but there are some fascinating methods (like ice core sampling and tree growth sampling) that seem to allow pretty good deductions as to past climate conditions over a very long period of time.

WTF IS A CUNT? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741920)

The Birth of the CUNT. The CUNT are a group of Trolls known as Collective Userbase of Nationalist Trolls.
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Re:WTF IS A CUNT? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741953)

The funny tihng is this was posted by an AC...

You DEFILE the CUNT! (-1)

DonkeyHote (521235) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741968)

This type of AC abuse will not be tolerated! The forces of the CUNT will invade your homeland, pillage your farms and have our way with your women!

And the AC was too fucking incompetent to get the PWP markup right, just goes to show you AC's truly are fucking morons that need to be exterminated!

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Nothing New (2, Funny)

RAMMS+EIN (578166) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741925)

``The Earth Simulator Project will create a "virtual earth" on a supercomputer to show what the world will look like in the future by means of advanced numerical simulation technology.''
We already have that: http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/

MOD THIS DOWN YOU CUNT! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741929)

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I FUCK MEN AND HAVE GAY FLU!!!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741932)

angry dragonImmediately after you blow your load in a girls mouth, smack the back of her head and make it come out her nose. When she gets up she'll look like an angry dragon. broncoYou start by going doggy style and then just when she is really enjoying it, you grab her tits as tight as possible and yell another girls name. This gives you the feeling of riding a wild bronco as she desperately tries to buck you off. cleveland steamerThe act of leaving a shit stain on the rib cage of a woman while receiving penile pleasure from friction between the mammaries. club spedGang banging a retard. For those idiots out there, sped come from special ed, you do the math. cold lunchThe act of vomiting directly onto some chick's head while she's performing fellatio. couch bombingWhen you fill a small Ziploc sandwich bag with Crisco (or your favorite lubrication) and place it between the cushions on the couch. You then proceed to fuck the couch as if it were a woman...but no need to buy it dinner first. coyoteThis occurs when you wake up in the room of a nasty wombat and you know you've got to give her the slip. However, you realize that your arm is wrapped around her. Therefore you must gnaw off your own arm to get out of the situation. Can be very painful. dirty riverYou give a bitch the most painful anal sex of her life and then ask her to turn around. Just as she turns you surprise her with a low blow, a punch to her lower stomach as hard as you can. Once you land the blow she will shit uncontrollably, shit will flow from her worn out asshole like a dirty fucking river. Then just sit back and enjoy the show. dirty sanchezA time honored event in which while laying the bone doggie style, you insert your finger into her asshole. You then pull it out and wipe it across her upper lip leaving a thin shit mustache. This makes her look like someone whose name is Dirty Sanchez. dog in a bathtubThis is a proper name for when you attempt to insert your nuts into a girl's ass. It is so named because it can be just as hard as keeping a dog in the tub while giving it a bath. donkey punchBanging a girl doggy style and then moments before you cum, you stick your dick in her ass, and then punch her in the back of the neck. The blow to the neck will stun the muscles in the female's ass, which will constrict the penis and give you a tremendous orgasmic experience when you ejaculate. dutch ovenEntrapping an unsuspecting sleeping partner in a world of ass odor by farting under the covers and pulling them over her head (and yours as well if you're into that sort of thing). flying camelA personal favorite. As she is lying on her back and you are hammering her from your knees. You very carefully move forward and prop yourself (without using your arms) on your dick while it is still inserted in her vagina. You then proceed to flap your arms and let out a long shrieking howl much like a flying camel. Strictly a classy move. hot lunchThe result of defecating a tube of shit directly into a girl's mouth. mungObtain a female that has been dead for 2-3 days (the time period since death is important). Then place your mouth just outside her vaginal opening. Have a friend jump on her stomach, and try to catch as much stuff that comes out as you can in your mouth. pearl necklaceWell known. Whenever you cum on the neck/cleavage area of a girl - it takes on the look of beautiful jewelry. Fuck that diamonds are forever shit. rear admiralAn absolute blast. When getting a chick from behind (while both partners standing), make sure you don't let her grab on to anything when she is bent over. Then, drive you hips into her backside so that you end up pushing her forwards. The goal is to push her into a wall or table. It's almost as much fun watching her face hit the floor. You rise to Admiral status when you can bang her around the room without crashing into anything and not using your hands to grab onto her hips. relative humidityThat first drop of sweat that rolls off your balls and down the crack of your sister's ass while you fuck her. sandbagUnder an assumed name in a tropical region, you meet a young hottie and engage in the well-known cliché of sex on the beach. Just before insertion, remove the rubber (without getting caught of course), and proceed to bang away until you blow your load, without pulling out. As you dismount and prepare for departure, grab a handful of sand, throw it in her eyes, and run away laughing hysterically while leaving her blinded, butt-necked, and knocked up. Especially lots of fun when accomplished during the spring break season. shockerWhen you insert your index and middle fingers in the woman's vagina and pinky in her anus. After giving her a few good minutes of double duty finger banging, pull your fingers out and give your index and middle finger a quick sniff and pinky a good sucking, all in one smooth motion.(a.k.a. Smoking the Pinky.) snowballAh yes, every man's worst nightmare, the dreaded snowball. This happens when a girl blows you and spits the jizz in your mouth. Another definition is when a girl blows some other guy, and then gives you a hot sloppy kiss with some of that guy's fresh jizz still in her mouth. With all those dirty broads out there, odds are it has happened to you. Just ask your friends if it has, cause they probably already know and have been laughing their asses off at you. strangerSitting on your hand until it falls asleep and then jerking off. Eliciting the feeling of a hand job from someone else. tea bagTo perform the tea bag, have the girl lay flat on her back. Then you squat over her with your hands on your knees, and gently dip your nut sac in and out of her mouth in a motion similar to performing some kinda fucked up yoga exercise. tossing saladA common prison act where one person basically chows asshole with the help of whatever condiments are available. (i.e. jelly, syrup, olive oil, etc.) I'm never going to prison. upper deckNext time you're at the house of someone you hate, take a wicked shit in the top part of the toilet. They'll go insane trying to figure out where that stench is coming from.

Mandatory remark.... (0, Redundant)

Dark Lord Seth (584963) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741935)

Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these [top500.org] !

You sir are an assfucking loonix using nigger! (-1)

DonkeyHote (521235) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741952)

I hope you get Beak Raped [trollaxor.com] by a penguin!

Earthquakes shmirthquakes. (5, Funny)

ErikTheRed (162431) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741944)

They don't want to admit it, but the real reason for building this thing is so that they can predict appearances of Godzilla....

Wow... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741957)

I feel kind of, famous. There's a possibility that hundreds, even thousands of people may read this comment. Things that *I* typed out. That's crazy to think about!!

I'm a /. superstar!

"Advantages" of ES (5, Interesting)

binaryDigit (557647) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741965)

Seems to me that though ES takes the overall performance crown, that the IBM and HP (man that sounds strange) units have some definite advantages over it. Primary of which is the fact that they DO use "off the shelf" parts. ASCI White uses 375Mhz Power3 chips which are comparitively low performance compared to what IBM is shipping now (1.3 Ghz Power4). I don't know what the technical details are behind ASCI White, but it seems that IBM could instantly get a doubling of performance by using new CPU modules. With the "specialized processor" approach that NEC uses, this would seem to be prohibitively expensive. IBM has already amortized most of the cost of the development of new processors through their normal business units.

Another advantage would be that since ASCI White is a hyper RS6K, you could use a lower end model (and IBM could rather inexpensively offer a lower end model) to develop your models on before using the relatively expensive big boy to do the actual simulations. I have to admit that this point is moot if they don't keep the utilization of the thing up pretty high most of the time.

Though they mention that ES "only needs 5104" processors vs 8192 for AW, it looks like ES still takes up massive amounts of space. Now ES' storage is significantly larger that AW, so maybe that's where all the space is being eaten, but it would be interesting to see what the actual cabinet space/power requirements for the two machines sans storage are (assuming they are both using standard stuff for storage).

Others things include since AW is based on OTS parts, is it easier to get parts for when processing units konk out. Is it simpler for a tech to work on the unit. Since Linux is already running on RS6K, theoretically with a few device drivers, you could run Linux on that bad boy

Of course all this is moot in the non-real-world of supercomputers. With seemingly infinite budgets, the only _real_ measure is absolute performance, and ES obviously has the edge here. But if I were the IBM sales rep for supercomputing, I'd sure be hyping the fact that when it's not simulating nuclear explosions, you can run Gimp and Mozilla.

Re:"Advantages" of ES (1)

lingqi (577227) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741984)

...compared to what IBM is shipping now (1.3 Ghz Power4)

Wow... -- somebody else who knows about the power4...

I am cuious, do you know how they USE the darn things? i mean, the sucker has over 5,000 pins (!!), i suppose the thermal requirements are tremendous too. any info would be appriciated.

But if I were the IBM sales rep for supercomputing, I'd sure be hyping the fact that when it's not simulating nuclear explosions, you can run Gimp and Mozilla.

don't forget to mention the terrific pr0n potential.

by the way (1)

lingqi (577227) | more than 12 years ago | (#3742011)

ES has 700TB storage, ASCI W 160TB;
a small difference... heh

Re:by the way (2)

binaryDigit (557647) | more than 12 years ago | (#3742015)

Yes, I mentioned the difference in my post:

Now ES' storage is significantly larger that AW ...

I'm in luck. (0, Troll)

Oily Tuna (542581) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741973)

I know the cheat codes [gamewinners.com] !

Hmmm blonde or redhead first?

Can you imagine... (5, Funny)

bakes (87194) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741983)

..a single-cpu one of these!!!

Ahh, it may be all powerful... (1)

AussieBastard (587090) | more than 12 years ago | (#3741989)

...but will it run pong? :)

Ah, but does it use... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3741990)

.. the CrystalSpace 3D engine?
I thought not, it isn't powerful enough.

I clicked on the link (1)

hype7 (239530) | more than 12 years ago | (#3742016)

but I couldn't find anything about the PowerMac G4?

-- james
ps humour, not troll/flamebait :)

We already know the answer (0, Redundant)

saphena (322272) | more than 12 years ago | (#3742024)

42

Re:We already know the answer (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3742042)

42

No, the answer is not 42. The question is, "Is saphena a moron for repeating idiotic jokes?" and the correct answer is "Yes".

"I predict (3, Funny)

zephc (225327) | more than 12 years ago | (#3742029)

that within 100 years computers will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them." - Prof. Frink

Re:"I predict (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3742036)

Ha ha

Unfortunately... (2)

techmuse (160085) | more than 12 years ago | (#3742039)

The Earth simulator will be destroyed to make way for a hyperspacial bypass...

Do they have the way out? (0, Redundant)

littleRedFriend (456491) | more than 12 years ago | (#3742043)

Come on give it try [wehavethewayout.com] and install windows on it. Ooops it went just down from 40 teraflops to effectively 1 (the other 39 is probably used for IE).

This would be a good machine to... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3742047)

Overclock! Why not? It's probably got an excellent cooling system. Someone needs to write up a guide on [H]ardOCP or something...

alright now. (2, Insightful)

domtropen (549086) | more than 12 years ago | (#3742051)

i'll freely admit that i'm a little freaked out by this. (so much so that i'm delurking.) directed at the discussion about whether it can be a practical machine, does it really matter? it seems as if it was built for one sole purpose, and it appears that it will do it well. can we just give them that?

it's 2.45 in the morning (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3742053)

Heh, wonder what happens when it tries to simulate itself simulating itself.
I know that's not how it works, but still...
I wonder how you code for that

SETI? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Squonk (128339) | more than 12 years ago | (#3742054)

Are there any estimates of the processing power of all the worldwide computers participating in the SETI [seti.org] project?
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