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ICANN Updates

michael posted more than 12 years ago | from the .organized-resistance dept.

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ICANN is meeting in Bucharest next week, which means they're floating all their usual smoky-room schemes just prior to the meeting. leto writes "The three RIR's, ARIN, APNIC and RIPE-NCC have just released a joint statement that basically tells ICANN that their Evolution and Reform plan is unacceptable, and tells ICANN to go play elsewhere, and leave the address space in the hands of the well working bodies." An interesting mailing list debate has been going on between ICANN's critics and ICANN's extremely well-paid and extremely sleazy attorney: critic, attorney (sleazy!), critic again, another critic, attorney again, critic's response, still other critics. And finally, note that the .org TLD is up for bids - the New York Times has a story, Newsforge has another.

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FP? (-1)

Metrollica (552191) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744242)

FP?

Re:FP? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744259)

Nope, post #3744242.

First post was many years ago.

Re:FP? (-1)

Metrollica (552191) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744295)

I forgot to mention that I claim my FP in the name of http://geocities.com/metrollica/ [geocities.com]

Re:FP? (-1)

TrollBridge (550878) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744345)

Argh, caught me off guard with that one, at work no less!

Re:FP? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744410)

agreed, got me too! nice one Metrollica! MOD PARENT UP!!!

Re:FP? (-1)

Metrollica (552191) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744522)

If anyone's interested, my Geocities page has been viewed 55 times since I put the link up on Slashdot.

If you hate ACs, reply to this ! (-1)

L0rdkariya (562469) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744262)

Word to your mother.

Re:If you hate ACs, reply to this ! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744287)

WORD!

Re:If you hate ACs, reply to this ! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744339)

they should all burn in hell =)

Re:If you hate ACs, reply to this ! (-1)

Stock Quote Troll (583080) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744289)

I agree with this post.

I agree....partially (-1)

Mike Hock (249988) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744324)

nt

KTHXBY

VA Software is Dying! (-1)

Stock Quote Troll (583080) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744244)

I've got some information the big wigs at VA Software may be interested in.
We're all here to save LNUX from its spiral down the toilet! Here's some information about how LNUX will be listed if certain conditions aren't met. It doesnt' look good. For LNUX sake, let's hope their stock can close above $1 today...they're getting close!

It is widely thought that a company can be delisted if it's stock merely falls below $5 for a specific period of time. This is not totally true.

The only way a company can be kicked off for trading below $5 is if it doesn't meet one of the other minimum standards.

For instance, it may not have met Corporate Governance demands, failing to submit timely and accurate financial reports.

Companies could also be delisted if their stock falls below $5 and they don't have at least two market makers or at least 400 round lot shareholders (owning at least 100 shares).

There are also minimum thresholds for net tangible assets, total revenue and market value.

Currently, more than 120 companies are trading below $5, many of them Internet companies.

However, another 23 pure-play Internet companies are currently trading below $1 per share, according to Internet.com. They include Vitaminshoppe.com, Theglobe.com, Peapod Inc., PlanetRx.com and E-Stamp Corp.

And keep in mind that once a company's stock price falls below a buck, the situation becomes much more dire. This is because it can be delisted solely based on its stock price.

Here's how it works: If a company's stock trades below $1 for 30 consecutive trading days or six weeks, NASDAQ will issue a deficiency notice. Of course, if during that 30-day period the stock climbs above a buck and then slips below it again, the clock is reset.

In any case, the deficiency notice warns the company that it has 90 calendar days to bring its price up to $1 for 10 consecutive days.

The company may accomplish this through various actions such as a merger, acquisition or a significant transaction or order with another company. If the company is unsuccessful, it could mean the end of the game... delisting.

A bit harsh? Not really. According to Scott Peterson, Director of NASDAQ Media Relations, Nasdaq is fair to both the players (companies trading) as well as the fans (investors). "We go the extra mile for the company and try to work on them to keep their listing standards; we recognize that they value being listed on Nasdaq - but we believe it is also an investor protection issue - if they can't meet the requirements... we will delist them."

At the end of the 90 day period (if NASDAQ's standards have not been met), the company has the option of requesting a hearing - oral or written - before a panel of two securities experts (a securities lawyer or accountant) of their choice. The company typically will then appeal to the panel and explain its plan of how it will get its share price over its bid price, thus buying more time.

Re:VA Software is Dying! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744271)

But VA rose to $1 yesterday.

Clock reset.

Re:VA Software is Dying! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744650)

But it is below 0.90 as of this posting. Today is day 1. 29 to go.

♡ I love CLIT! ♥ (-1)

cyborg_monkey (150790) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744249)

I really do!
It's so warm and moist....
And delicious too!

Re:♡ I love CLIT! ♥ (-1)

L0rdkariya (562469) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744281)

You are right. Moist and delicious !

Re:♡ I love CLIT! ♥ (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744371)

I commend you on your signature, good sir troll. It truly does justice to both the trolls of Slashdot and fine television everywhere.

ICANN is in trouble again (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744258)

because of TTM: TOM THE MOVIE [tomthemovie.com]

WTF? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744266)

OMG, ICANN uses WTM acronyms. LOL! IMHO, /. & W3C, etc should ban these BTGOH! TTYL!

Woohoo! .org for sale (-1)

Burritos (535298) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744268)

I wonder if I could register slashdot.org for myself :)

This is getting Ridiculous (1, Funny)

Real World Stuff (561780) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744272)

Back and Forth, Back and Forth...Commercialization...Disputes...Greed. Once again, the road to Hell is paved with Good intentions.

I'm taking my internet and going home.

Re:This is getting Ridiculous (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744400)

mod parnet UP +5 funny.

Uh, Text Formatting? (-1, Offtopic)

nat5an (558057) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744277)

Was anyone else totally befuddled by the mix of regular and italic text combined with ALL CAPS ACRONYMS and regular lowercase text all rolled up into long run-on sentences in this news story?

befuddled, no -- AROUSED... definitely! (-1)

Mike Hock (249988) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744353)

Thank You!

Re:Uh, Text Formatting? (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744357)

no, the italics is used because a user submitted this, acronyms are normally full caps (when was the last time you saw Fbi?).

Re:Uh, Text Formatting? (0, Offtopic)

quantaman (517394) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744405)

Welcome to /.

ICANNs attorneys letters are no better... (1)

elsegundo (316028) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744426)

since it seems to go on and on with all sorts of legalese and other crap for miles and miles as if he (the attorney) is quite pleased with the look or more likely the sound as he was dictating these letters.

Or have I just described all attorneys? :P

Box Office Betty (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744285)

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Polished...... (-1, Troll)

AntipodesTroll (552543) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744312)

Turd.

Pretty much describes ICANN, in my opinion.

I am Junis and I have brought along my Goat! (-1, Troll)

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Metrollica (552191) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744322)

You never get IP banned this way.

I'm not sure.. (1)

jglow (525234) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744330)

I'm not sure I understand fully.

If a .ORG domain name is not affiliated with a true non-profit organization, and the ownership runs out, it can NOT be re-purchased?

Re:I'm not sure.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744347)

If that were true, Slashdot.ORG would be sweating!

But, it's not. Right now they're just trying to decide who will run .org.

Re:I'm not sure.. (1)

jglow (525234) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744356)

Gotcha, thanks.

Please MOD me up (I need the Karma) (-1, Troll)

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L0rdkariya (562469) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744354)

Above post contains useful links.

What needs to happen... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744359)

What really needs to happen is that the ICANN should be completely eliminated. Every decision about assigning IP addresses to corresponding web addresses should be democratically made by the net-community. That is, every issue should be voted on by the net. The internet makes it possible to have a true democracy as did the Greeks [about.com] . We should go in that direction.

Re:What needs to happen... (3, Insightful)

snow leopard (454747) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744397)

And just how exactly are we going to set up some kind of election to vote on these issues? A poll somewhere? And I'm so sure that no one is going to vote multiple times. Not to metion the logistics of trying to have some sort of rational debate before hand with the millions of people who actually care to discuss this.

ICANN is a failure, yes. But, it doesn't mean that there isn't some central authority needed to take over for ICANN. The internet is too big now to not have some sort of almost hegemonal group in charge. Yes, there should be community input, but it has to be structured. Maybe take a page out of the US Constitutional framers book and set up some sort of internet electoral college, and have each region elect their rep. And then those reps go and make the decisions.

But in no way can there be a true democracy on the internet, it worked for the Greeks because there weren't millions upon millions of people trying to get their voice heard.

Re:What needs to happen... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744446)

I hope this giant poll has a CowboyNeal option.

Re:What needs to happen... (1, Offtopic)

Vortran (253538) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744477)

Pardon me for flaming, but...

Have you heard of computers? Of course you have. How about web software? Yep.

So are you one of those folks who:
A. would never trust a website with your credit card information, much less some third party to tally your vote on whether or not to grant a block of 4096 IP address to the fine folks at ilovemonkeysex.com?

B. advocates the perpetuation of the electoral college - which was created in the days when people sent messages on horseback?

C. both of the above?

Vortran out

Re:What needs to happen... (1)

snow leopard (454747) | more than 12 years ago | (#3745117)

Actually, I'm neither A or B. Because while I do trust my credit card number on the web, that's only because they say I don't have to pay for things if my number gets swiped. But I have no assurances that someone isn't going to crack the third party tallying server and make their own group win.

The point that I was trying to make is that there is no real feasible way to allow everyone to get up and debate the points in question. There just isn't enough time for everyone to put in their two cents. The concept behind the electoral college is that you elect people you trust who have time and will get their voices heard, and through them, your voices. Its no different then a legislative assembly of some sort.

And what's wrong with ideas that were made when people sent messages on horseback? As much as we bitch and whine about the laws in the US, I have rarely heard someone moaning about the constitution itself, which was also created when people sent letters by horseback.

Re:What needs to happen... (4, Insightful)

saihung (19097) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744407)

The problem with this idea is that its completely impossible to implement. There are no reliable ways of making sure that one person=one vote, no way of guaranteeing even participation geographically, economically, or any other way. Internet users nowadays are mostly people who log in to ISPs to use email and chat. They don't know what ICANN is, and don't care. Are you suggesting that voting on issues that affect so many naive users should be reduced to a tug-of war between nerds and corporations?

Re:What needs to happen... (2)

L. VeGas (580015) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744437)

Are you suggesting that voting on issues that affect so many naive users should be reduced to a tug-of war between nerds and corporations?

Isn't that what happened with the last presidential election?

Re:What needs to happen... (2)

medcalf (68293) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744521)

Are you suggesting that voting on issues that affect so many naive users should be reduced to a tug-of war between nerds and corporations?
Isn't that what happened with the last presidential election?

No, in the last presidential election (in fact, in the last several), large organizations who don't care about the common citizen, but who want to be left alone by the government, battled large organizations who don't care about the common citizen, but want the government to grant them all kinds of money, monopolies, special rights and privileges. There is no way I can think of that a society can have personal liberty, and a two-party system, without this state of affairs prevailing.

Re:What needs to happen... (2)

FreeUser (11483) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744531)

Are you suggesting that voting on issues that affect so many naive users should be reduced to a tug-of war between nerds and corporations?

That would certainly be preferable to simply letting the corporations win by default.

If you choose not to vote, you have only yourself to blame and should probably quit bitching now and forever.

If your right to vote is taken away from you by [insert favorite hated authority figure here], then you have not only the right, but the moral obligation to take up arms and drive [said authority figure] from power. In the case of ICANN and the Internet such weopons might be more metaphorical than real (one can hope), but I wouldn't count on it.

Re:What needs to happen... (2, Interesting)

mtthws (572660) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744546)

It may not be the mbest solution, but it seems like the most fair way to do a vote would be the owner of every domain name gets one vote. Before an election every domain owner gets some type of id number emailed to them, and they use that to vote. Granted people with more domain names would get more votes, but there does not realy seem like there is a "good" way to do this, and this seems to be the most fair way to me. Also since the people with more domain names are hopefully contributing more to the web by increasing the amount of content on the web with more web sites, they should get a little more control becouse they are hopefully contributing more. The same argument also works for the people who do own domain names. Every single election system has some type of prereq to vote, in the us it is citizenship and age, on the net it is owning a part of the net, a domain name.

Re:What needs to happen... (2)

smallpaul (65919) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744629)

One domain one vote is not a good idea because of the bottom feeder domain squatters. They contribute nothing to the Internet but they own a lot of domain names. They could also skew the rules in ways that profit them and not us.

I would say that the rule should be that everyone with at least one domain name gets one vote. We can tell who is who (roughly) by using whois.

Re:What needs to happen... (1)

frinsore (153020) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744474)

Actually a republic would be a much better idea. This is what the majority of the civilized word uses, including USA, GB, Mexico, Canada, Germany, France, etc. People should be elected to make knowledgable choices and to handle the mundane choices.

Imagine if a vote is called to all Linux to connect to a .com address. An average person would say "Linux, isn't that some kind of virus? I don't want any flesh eating virus on my computer." Uniformed people resort to rumor and hear-say when they don't know the facts or can't get easy access to the facts. Or take this example to change from IPV4 to IPV6, most people won't think of it as a big deal and won't vote, so IPV2 wins by write in from 15 high schoolers pulling a prank.

Individuals can be very smart, but take a large group of people and the IQ plummets. The masses are fickle and apathetic. Yes electing officials is based on popularity more then qualifications but the officials at least have to know something because of the 1 percent of people that ask intelligent questions.

--Beware bias, I live in the USA

Re:What needs to happen... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744514)

Actually, Canada is a constitutional monarchy.

Re:What needs to happen... (5, Insightful)

swm (171547) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744552)

Every decision about assigning IP addresses to corresponding web addresses should be democratically made by the net-community.

How about

Every decision about assigning IP addresses to corresponding web addresses should made by the individual who wants to access the web site.
To access a web site, type its IP address. If you don't like typing IP addresses, build a database. If you don't have the time/inclination to build your own database, subscribe to one.

It's not a technical problem. It's not even an implementation problem. All popular operating systems allow you to specify the IP address of your DNS server, and there are already alternate DNS servers out there. If you don't like ICANN's, find another.

Go for anarchy and ICANN becomes a non-issue.

Re:What needs to happen... (1)

g0at (135364) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744573)

...and what do we do about all the name-based HTTP/1.1-compliant virtual hosts out there?

I thought the premise was that IP numbers were scarce.

Re:What needs to happen... (2)

demaria (122790) | more than 12 years ago | (#3745210)

Run them on port 80,81,82,8080,8081,8082,8083.....

Re:What needs to happen... (2)

SiliconEntity (448450) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744711)


To access a web site, type its IP address. If you don't like typing IP addresses, build a database. If you don't have the time/inclination to build your own database, subscribe to one.

So what do you use for links on your web pages? IP addresses, which will go bad as soon as the destination site reorganizes; or DNS names, which won't work for any users who subscribe to a different database?

Re:What needs to happen... (1)

dissy (172727) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744897)

"So what do you use for links on your web pages? IP addresses, which will go bad as soon as the destination site reorganizes; or DNS names, which won't work for any users who subscribe to a different database?"

Well, for internal links you do what you should be doing now. Dont include the domain at all, and dont begin the url with a HTTP://

bad : href="http://www.example.com/path/to/my/document.h tml"
good: href="/path/to/my/document.html"

For external links, the idea is stability in IP addresses (Which isnt easy in IPv4, not because its not doable, but because ICANN would like us to believe its not doable.)

Re:What needs to happen... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744967)

You're right. What we need is to get rid of ip addresses altogether. If you need to group machines into networks, do it with names -- a.example.com, b.example.com, etc. I recall learning what seems like ages ago that the current system exists because computers deal well with numbers, but humans prefer letters. But computers deal with letters as numbers anyway, let them eat ascii. Simplify, simplify, simplify.

Re:What needs to happen... (2, Insightful)

Duck_Taffy (551144) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744941)

This would create a problem with some vhosted sites. There are some sites which require a request for their domain name, otherwise, if you just type in their IP address, you don't get any site. This would force these independent databases to use the same name/ip associations as ICANN for certain sites, or require major changes in Apache or the way vhosted sites are set up.

While I personally think that you have a cool idea, I also think this would merely end up confusing the majority of internet users (of course this depends on how all of the database subscription options are implemented). Sadly, most internet users can barely make their way through hotmail and yahoo, let alone remember IP address, or understand what it means to subscribe to a database of domain names. This would require an incredibly well thought out user interface with language that is perfectly understandable to people who have never touched a computer before in their life.

Gov't (1)

timothy_m_smith (222047) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744367)

This makes me almost start to believe the US government actually could do a better job running ICANN...but then again I doubt anyone would stand for it...

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Jesus Loves You! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744406)

Re:Jesus Loves You! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744431)

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Answer me this... (1)

owlmeat (197799) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744413)

What has ICANN done in 4 years that actually trickled down to internet end users?

Re:Answer me this... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744468)

Um, .biz? .info? They got a bad domain name dispute resolution system in place. Did they open the domain registrar system up? If that was them, that was good, I guess.

Re:Answer me this... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744868)

The new TLDs probably can't be added to a list of good things. In fact, I don't think a list of good things exists, as there is not yet any need for one. The horrible method by which they choose to add TLDs is a disservice to the Internet community. I don't think ICANN had anything to do with opening up the domain registrar system. That was Congress, IIRC.

Re:Answer me this... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744798)

What has ICANN done in 4 years that actually trickled down to internet end users?
Well, it must've urinated sometime... Otherwise it would be in a great deal of pain.

politics (5, Insightful)

OpenMind(tm) (129095) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744417)

We also know that a purely private organization, without the support and
involvement of governments from around the world, will not be able to carry
out thes mission assigned to ICANN (if you believe that mission requires
the agreed participation of all the relevant infrastructure
providers). ICANN has no guns, and no soldiers; it has no coercive
power.


Something tell me before too long we can expect to hear dark rumors of ICANN building a droid army to deploy against the shining republic of the IETF.

Seriously, though, it is shocking how poitical they can try to make a system whose entire job is to associate names and numbers. For something that is essentially a hack (put the fate of the internet on the backs of a handfule of individual servers, yeah, good idea), they sure seem intent on turning it into the basis for a UN-scale political swamp.

Re:politics (1)

BitHive (578094) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744463)

I confess, I didn't read the article, but guns? Whose commentary was that? This is The Internet, what the fuck do we need guns for?

Re:politics (1)

Danse (1026) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744827)

That was the lawyer's comment. Have to read the back-and-forth messages to get the context.

Apparently.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744422)

Apparently, ICANN has learned one lesson: If you can't answer 'em, get your attorney to work on 'em...

My God Newsforge is Polite! (2, Funny)

Vengie (533896) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744456)

"Perhaps ICANN, which controls the whole domain name schmear, will listen, although there's no way to be sure. ICANN's record of listening to the voice of the general Internet populace is, at best, spotty. "
Wow. I must admit I am impressed. That statement is rather politically correct, even for NewsForge. Last time I checked, the official Keiretsu opinion of ICANN was "Incompetant Callous And Nothing New" .... but I may stand corrected on that one. (yeah...the bacronym is my own creation, but its a nice summary)

English, please (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744460)

The three RIR's, ARIN, APNIC and RIPE-NCC have just released...

Could somebody please translate this into English?

Or even Engrish.

Re:English, please (-1)

GhostseTroll (582659) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744496)

A professor at the University of Mississippi is giving a [hick.org]
lecture on the supernatural. To get a feel for his
audience, he asks: "How many people here believe in
ghostses?" About 90 students raise their hands.

"Well, that's a good start. Out of those of you who
believe in ghostses, do any of you think you've ever seen
a ghostse?" About 40 students raise their hands.

"That's really good. Has anyone here ever talked to a
ghostse?" 15 students raise their hands.

"That's great. Has anyone here ever touched a ghostse?" 3
students raise their hands.

"That's fantastic. But let me ask you one question
further... Have any of you ever made love to a ghostse?"
One student way in the back raises his hand.

The professor is astonished and says, "Son, all the
years I've been giving this lecture, no one has ever
claimed to have slept with a ghostse. You've got to come
up here and tell us about your experience."

The redneck student replies with a nod and a grin, and
begins to make his way up to the podium. The professor
says, "Well, tell us what it's like to have sex with
ghostse."

The student replies, "Ghostse?!? From ah-way back there ah
thought yuh said "goatse."

Re:English, please (3, Informative)

bourne (539955) | more than 12 years ago | (#3745149)

  • RIR - Regional Internet Registry - org that maps IP blocks to their owners.
  • ARIN - American Registry for Internet Numbers, an RIR.
  • APNIC - Asia-Pacific Network Information Centre, an RIR.
  • RIPE - Reseaux IP Europeens, an RIR.

All except the first can be found at www.----.net. An IP is attacking you, and you want to find out who it is registered to? Look it up at the various RIRs.

Re:English, please (1)

synshyne (585540) | more than 12 years ago | (#3745179)

Regional Internet Registries (RIR)
American Registry for Internet Number (ARIN)
Asia Pacific Information Centre (APNIC)
Reseaux IP Europeens Network Coordination Centre (RIPE-NCC)

for more info on these go to :
www.apnic.net/db/RIRs.html
www.ripe.net/ripenc c/about/regional
www.aso.icann.org/rirs
www.ripe .net/perl/whois

"Sleazy Attorney" (2, Insightful)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744470)

Good idea, Michael, call an attorney sleazy on a public forum. I'm sure he won't mind, especially if you're right.

Next, we'll spear some bulls and wave red flags in front of them.

Feel free to delete this comment when you fix the story, to keep Slashdot out of court.

Re:"Sleazy Attorney" (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744583)

What is your point? That we should all self-censor for fear of the almighty lawyers? Why?

Re:"Sleazy Attorney" (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744611)

Because they'd be happy to sue you out of house and home. If you're independent and broke, go for it.

Just because the system is broken doesn't mean you ought to ignore it.

Re:"Sleazy Attorney" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3745121)

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Just because we're psycho doesn't mean lawyers should ignore us.

Re:"Sleazy Attorney" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744697)

"Tact"?

Re:"Sleazy Attorney" (2)

Erik Fish (106896) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744750)

Well if he's right then your lawyer shouldn't have a problem with it, should he?

Now you kids play nice or I swear to god I'm going to turn this car around and there will be no DisneyWorld for anybody!

Re:"Sleazy Attorney" (2)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744813)

You can't prove to a judge that he's sleazy. You can prove he's engaged in certain acts that some people would consider sleazy, but the term is derogatory per se.

Re:"Sleazy Attorney" (3, Funny)

ChicagoFan (125489) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744920)


You can't prove to a judge that he's sleazy.


Sure I can.


"Your honor, he's an attorney. I rest my case."


ChicagoFan

Re:"Sleazy Attorney" (2)

FredGray (305594) | more than 12 years ago | (#3745077)

You can't prove to a judge that he's sleazy. You can prove he's engaged in certain acts that some people would consider sleazy, but the term is derogatory per se.

...which means that you don't have to prove it to a judge. At least in the USA, a statement of pure opinion cannot constitute libel or slander. It has to be a false statement of "fact.

[IANAL...]

Re:"Sleazy Attorney" (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3745107)

> Good idea, Michael, call an attorney sleazy on a public forum. I'm sure he won't mind, especially if you're right.

"Sleazy" is not libelous, it's an opinion. Slashdot's OK here. You have to state a deliberately known false assertion of fact to be libelous.

Mississippi Ghostse (-1)

GhostseTroll (582659) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744482)

A professor at the University of Mississippi is giving a
lecture on the supernatural. To get a feel for his
audience, he asks: "How many people here believe in
ghostses?" About 90 students raise their hands.

"Well, that's a good start. Out of those of you who
believe in ghostses, do any of you think you've ever seen
a ghostse?" About 40 students raise their hands.

"That's really good. Has anyone here ever talked to a
ghostse?" 15 students raise their hands.

"That's great. Has anyone here ever touched a ghostse?" 3
students raise their hands.

"That's fantastic. But let me ask you one question
further... Have any of you ever made love to a ghostse?"
One student way in the back raises his hand.

The professor is astonished and says, "Son, all the
years I've been giving this lecture, no one has ever
claimed to have slept with a ghostse. You've got to come
up here and tell us about your experience."

The redneck student replies with a nod and a grin, and
begins to make his way up to the podium. The professor
says, "Well, tell us what it's like to have sex with
ghostse."

The student replies, "Ghostse?!? From ah-way back there ah
thought yuh said "goatse." [goatse.cx]

Tempest in a teapot (4, Insightful)

Jay Maynard (54798) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744487)

Once again, we have much wailing and gnashing of teeth over ICANN and the control of the DNS.


<garfield>Big, fat, hairy deal.</garfield>


Really, who cares? As long as people can register domain names, and have them appear in the DNS servers, the rest is just three-year-olds arguing over a toy.


NAMES ARE NOT THE THINGS THEY NAME!


Fundamentally, it makes no difference what domain name a site has. With the advent of the search engine, it's all moot anyway.


Really, folks...there are a lot of good people putting in lots of time and effort on something that's basically a triviality. Why not work on something that means something?

Re:Tempest in a teapot (0, Offtopic)

pmanheier (316056) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744622)

wailing and gnashing of teeth?!
you can't say that!!
only my senior-year biomechanics professor has that right!

start pushing the "newtonian way of thinking" and i just might come over there with a closed fist you hack!

(ah, the life and thoughts of a jaded biomed engineer...)

anyone want to save me???

It is going to cost us money (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744747)

Yes, money is a big fat fucking hairy deal.

It might not make a difference what name something has, but it still needs a name ... you dont want to tie your site to an IP. If it moves IPs not even search engines can find it anymore, till the links to it have been updated. This is hardly an option.

So we need domain names, and the bigger ICANN grows the more expensive it will get for us in the end.

Re:Tempest in a teapot (1)

Corby911 (250281) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744767)

Quoth the parent:
"NAMES ARE NOT THE THINGS THEY NAME!"

Well, that's not exactly true... sometimes domains are for exactly what they name, and are used to make a point. Take for instance a group of extremely bitter RPI students. Such people might register rpiscrews.us (no, there's no content there... I have yet to set up vhosts) to make a point.

And as for the triviality of a domain name... good, common words domain names can generate hits on their own. I remember that bomb.com (which has no real content) generated a couple thousand hits per month. That's all based on people thinking "hey, maybe there's something good at bomb.com".

Re:Tempest in a teapot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3745091)

Good idea. There should be more sites dedicated to the 'tute-screw.

Domain names (1, Insightful)

OmniVector (569062) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744498)

Why is it that extentions are regulated in the first place? I think the whole concept of restricting mypage.* to a set of only 10 choices (excluding those strange 3rd world country names) just to create pseudo scarcity hurts the general market.

To make things worse, they sell the names at an absurd premium on some extentions (such as $10,000 USD to purchace me.tv, or whatever they want for it by now)
I for one would like them to release the market so i can score www.www.www :P

Re:Domain names (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744525)

You realize that .tv is one of "those strange 3rd world country names" right? It's Tuvalu [cia.gov] . The country is trying to make money off their TLD.

Re:Domain names (1)

OmniVector (569062) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744569)

It is and it isn't. They sold the .tv extention to some company in the USA. And although it was granted to some third world country, they don't use it as much as the company does.

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Oh, Joy. (4, Interesting)

osgeek (239988) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744654)

ICANN's extremely well-paid and extremely sleazy attorney

I credit the Slashdot editors for aggregating most of the topics that I find interesting -- however, I don't think that I'm going to be accusing them of jounalistic integrity any time soon.

Re:Oh, Joy. (3, Insightful)

Danse (1026) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744842)

Slashdot doesn't pretend to be unbiased. IMO, that's better than most of the rest of the journalistic world, which does pretend.

Okay, OKAY (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3744674)

And finally, note that the .org TLD is up for bids - the New York Times has a story, Newsforge has another.

Oh, alright. I'll do it. I guess.

I mean, if someone has to, and no one else wants it, i'm not really doing much else this month and i've got some free time. I swear though, you people.. seems sometimes like if you wanna get something done around here, you have to do it yourself. :shakes head:

Uhh.. do I have to set up BIND now, or something? Hm. Could anyone point me to a HOWTO..? I'm running slackware, so i can't do an RPM install..

--super ugly ultraman

ICANN: Why is there no seperation of powers? (1, Interesting)

jemele (577932) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744857)

Most systems that involve policy making bodies and implementation bodies seperate the two logically to allow some checks and balances - that is, in a system of governing, it makes no sense to consolidate the law makers and the law enforcers. But, from their own 'Mission and Core Values statement':

ICANN's Mission lies in the nexus between ICANN's technical coordination role, its operational role, and its policy role [icann.org]

Why isn't ICANN structured this way? How can they be a group that decides policy AND a group that implements policy? Doesn't this create an room for conflict of interest that ultimately leads to abuse of the system?

from my POV (0)

1lus10n (586635) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744884)

you know as someone who deals with ICANN and BS they cause i can tell you that they really need to either be abolished or handled by some other higher up group. for the most part they have no idea how to do there own jobs.

and lets just hope the US gov't doesnt take over for them. that would only make things worse

The ICANN attorney speaks (4, Insightful)

kindbud (90044) | more than 12 years ago | (#3744937)

The notion that not enough happens at ICANN in public, and that the answer to ICANN's problems is more transparency, illustrates a profound lack of understanding about what ICANN really does, and how it really does it.

Did it ever cross anyone's mind over there in East Timbuktu, or whatever remote jungle ICANN is meeting at this month, that if ICANN were more transparent, people wouldn't have so many questions about what it does and how it does it?

Hmmmm?

Repeating myself (5, Informative)

catfood (40112) | more than 12 years ago | (#3745011)

Nobody's yet explained why it takes a raft of lawyers, eighty million dollars, and meetings all over the world to accomplish what Jon Postel did in his spare time on his office workstation.

The Internet has gotten bigger, but damitall, IP addresses are still IP addresses and DNS is supposed to be a hierarchical, delegated system. What's the big problem? Jon just ran a root server and kept backups like it was the most obvious and natural thing in the world. What else is there to do?

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