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Spielberg on Privacy, Minority Report

michael posted more than 12 years ago | from the HomeSec dept.

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Staring at Nothing writes "In this ABC News story famed Hollywood director Steven Spielberg voices some concerns over the current state of privacy and paranoia in a post-9/11 world. Some of Spielberg's recent movies, like AI and Minority Report have brought us haunting views of the future, but the present may be just as scary. He mentions software being developed to monitor "abnormal behavior" and concerns about originality being misconstrued as dangerous behavior." The story has some minor plot spoilers about Minority Report.

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Down with germany! (-1)

Reikk (534266) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746760)

All you nazis can suck my nuts!

ZDNet article (-1)

on by (572414) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746764)

ZDNet has an article here [zdnet.com] .

Think this would work? (2, Funny)

sheepab (461960) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746772)

If people from the future came to arrest me for a future crime that I hadnt commited yet, could I just say to myself 'Adam, dont do this in the future' and memorize it or something, could I make them disappear, since they're from the future and all and I told my future self not to commit this crime. Ahh, brain hurts, time pretzel, OW!

Re:Think this would work? (2)

ZaMoose (24734) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746802)

They're not from the future. They rely on pseudo-psychics to foretell murders and they then arrest the would-be murderers. No time travel necessary.

Re:Think this would work? (1, Funny)

sheepab (461960) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746857)

You spoiled it!, I hate you, OMG YOU CHRISD!!!!

Re:Think this would work? (1)

sheepab (461960) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746884)

I was just kidding :-(

Re:Think this would work? (1, Funny)

mstorer3772 (526790) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746808)

no no no....

The cops are from the present, but their little pet psi's can see into the future... "Sheepab is going to kill the goatsex guy tommorow... do we want to stop him, or just slap his wrist after the fact?"

Re:Think this would work? (0)

Drgnkght (449916) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746823)

It's actually worse than that. If they are arresting you for a crime that a psychic "saw" you commit in the future, thus preventing you from committing said crime, how can the psychic "witness" the act which will now never occur?

Re:Think this would work? (2)

martyn s (444964) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746960)

Well in the movie, Tom Cruise demonstrated this for Colin Farrell. Colin Farrell's character asked the same question. So Tom Cruise threw a wooden ball across the table (sorta) and right before it fell Colin Farrell caught it.

TC: Why did you catch that ball?
CF: Because it was going to fall.

So basically, just because you can predict what was happening by extrapolating and inferring, and you end preventing it, that doesn't mean it wasn't *going* to happen.

Re:Think this would work? (1)

Osiris Ani (230116) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746883)

Well, something like that worked for Bill and Ted... sorta kinda... in a roundabout, not really way.

"To be fair, not all evil robots are killers." - Marge Simpson

More Bogus Submitter to Slashdot #@ +420; High @# (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746900)

"Staring At Nothing"!!!! Come on, Slashdot Editors, at least give the submitter a Slashdot ID and e-mail address.

Thanks in advance,
Enjoying some superb Amerikan grown marijuana in the state of KY for John Ashcroft.

doremi (-1)

on by (572414) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746780)

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Ray, Taco shoves it up his bum
Me, Jon Katz, I love myself
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glad you got to see me (-1)

handybundler (232934) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746782)

handybundler: banned again!

News for Nerds ?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746785)

"Spielberg p1mp3d his latest movie today"


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Actually (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746849)

this also looks like David Copperfield with a moustache

Spielberg's 180 (2, Interesting)

alexmogil (442209) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746797)

What's with his addiction to dark movies these days? AI, Saving Private Ryan, Minority Report... yeek.

Maybe he's gotten to the point in his career where he wants to send a message with his movies. Not that I'm asking for Flintstones III any time soon.

Re:Spielberg's 180 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746864)

Dark movies ?? Why don't you go rent "Henry, portrait of a serial killer" instead. Or Bottgereit's Schramm.

Re:Spielberg's 180 (1)

NickDngr (561211) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746873)

You forgot the ultimate in dark movies, Schindler's List [imdb.com] .

Re:Spielberg's 180 (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746941)

Fuck those raghead killing kikes.
Oy gevalt! This furnace is too hot!
This shower is too cold!
This shallow grave is just right!
The Holocaust wasn't just about Jews but the Zionist controlled media goes out of its way to give the illusion that only Jews were killed and gypsies, dissidents, homosexuals, linux advocates were just put inside concrete cells and given three square meals a day.
What's next? Are you going to say that the Civil War was about the god damned niggers? It was about free trade and testing the limits of the Republic's constitution.
Assworshipping cockmasters.

Re:Spielberg's 180 (1)

LordLucless (582312) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746927)

AI wasn't really his, Kubrick was in on that.

Re:Spielberg's 180 (2)

martyn s (444964) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746966)

I dunno, it makes me feel better to attribute that pile of garbage entirely to spielberg.

Actually, to be fair, AI started out pretty good. When I saw the movie, I told people I could tell exactly where Stanley Kubrick died, because all of a sudden, out of nowhere, it started to suck horribly.

You're forgetting the biggest, darkest one of all (1)

Vidmaster_Steve (455301) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746928)

Randal: Wanna watch a video?
Dante: Sure, whaddaya got?
Randal: Speilberg's latest opus, it combines his nose for commercial properties with his integrity as a chronicler of the Holocaust. Flinstone's List. Liam Neison as Fred.
Dante: We're not watchin' that... (Dante throws the tape to the floor out of disgust) Hey, remember the time we watched that? (flashback sequence)

Re:Spielberg's 180 (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746987)

What's with his addiction to dark movies these days?


What's with his addiction to giving said dark movies upbeat endings? I'll go see Minority Report (as I am a huge Dick fan), but fear the worst....

Tagline (5, Funny)

Vidmaster_Steve (455301) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746800)

The film's tagline, er, the Society's tagline, just sends a shiver down my spine: "Safety IS Freedom." Wonderful dystopian world view, just like in Farenheit 451, bastardizing something that Ben Franklin had said regarding the most basic of human freedoms. Just plain beautiful on Speilberg's part.

But, I'm certain that we can rest assured that those in power in Warshington will see this as the WAVE OF THE FUTURE! SAFTEY IS FREEDOM! And while we're at it, democracy works, right?

Bah. I just recently moved from Nevada to The Great Socialist Utopia across the Sierras. (for monetary reasons, not by fucking choice). I've been here for three days, and I already miss my freedoms. This "seatbelt" bullshit makes me want to exact my patriotism and destroy any tyrant who dares impede my freedom to keep me "safe."

Been here for half a week, and I'm already wanting to kill cops and politicians. This place fucking turns men into animals. I must free myself...

Yeah Democracy works (0)

geriatricgeek (575964) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746909)

Only if you can go along with the tyranny of numbers. Successful politicians know this cos they know how to do the vote-gaining number-crunching equations better than your computer. If PRIVACY is an issue for you I suggest you chill out and de-intensify your territorial instincts. Lots of stuff out there that can give you a chemical buzz without too many side-effects.

Re:Tagline (4, Insightful)

UncleAwesome (259162) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746912)

Slashdot folks seem to play the role of the Dilbert boss when it comes to social issues. They expect the best of both worlds. They want uncompromising individual freedom and privacy, but at the same time expect the government to prevent bad stuff from happening to them. They set unreasonable expectations with unrealistic constraints and cry foul when government errs wrong on either side. They only seem to realize the existence of tradeoffs only in software projects and not within society. Its quite amusing in a sad clown sort of way.

Re:Tagline (2, Insightful)

blibbleblobble (526872) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746979)

"They[we] want uncompromising individual freedom and privacy, but at the same time expect the government to prevent bad stuff from happening to them."

Before you convince too many people of our hypocracy, most of us know the government can't stop "bad stuff" happening, and has no interest in doing so anyway

Given that, taking away freedom and privacy "to protect you" just adds insult to injury, as they implement policies (RIP, the terrorism bill) which stand no chance of protecting anyone, but take away the freedoms anyway.
cat common_sense | government

Relax and Smoke Some Marijauana # +1 ; 420 Lewis # (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746954)

Be Patriotic, Smoke Amerikan grown marijuana, not treasonous imports !!!!

Courtesy of About 420 [phish.net]

Connotative Use/Meaning

420 is a phreak s (and not just a hippie s) favorite number for a
variety of reasons, or maybe for no reason at all, but colloquially
the number says pot -- let s smoke pot, or someone s smoking
pot, or gee, i really like pot, or time to smoke pot, either by
time (4:20 a.m. or p.m.), date (April 20th), or otherwise (e.g. State
Route 420). April 20th at 4:20 is marked by annual events in
Mount Tamalpais, CA (an informal gathering); Marin Conty, CA
(the 420 Hemp Fest); Ann Arbor, MI (the Hash Bash); and
Washington, D.C. (buildup towards the July 4th Smoke-In).

Original Source(s)

Conventional wisdom: The most common tale is that 420 is the
police radio code or criminal code (and therefore the police call)
in certain part(s) of California (e.g. in Los Angeles or San
Francisco) for having spotted someone consuming cannabis
publicly, i.e. pot smoking in progress; that local cannabis users
picked up on the code and began celebrating the number temporally
(esp. 4:20 a.m., 4:20 p.m., and April 20); that the number became
nationally popularized in the late 1980s and, more ferverently, in
the early- to mid-1990s; and is colloquially applied to a variety of
relaxed and/or inspired contexts, including not only pot
consumption but also a good time more generally (in contrast to
the drug war surrounding).

Conventions are legends: 420 is not police radio code for
anything, anywhere. Checks of criminal codes (including those of
the City of San Francisco, the City of Los Angeles, Los Angeles
County, the State of California, and the federal penal code) suggest
that the origin is neither Californian nor federal (the two best
guesses). For instance, California Penal Code 420 defines as a
misdemeanor the hindrance of use (obstructing entry) of public
lands, and California Family Code 420 defines what constitutes a
wedding ceremony (Marco). One state does come close: The
Illinois Department of Revenue classifies the Alcoholic Liquor Act
under Part 420, and the Cannabis and Controlled Substances Tax
Act are next, under Part 428. (RB 5/19/99)

True story?: According to Steven Hager, editor of High Times,
the term 420 originated at San Rafael High School, in 1971,
among a group of about a dozen pot-smoking wiseacres who
called themselves the Waldos. The term 420 was shorthand for the
time of day the group would meet, at the campus statue of Louis
Pasteur, to smoke pot. ``Waldo Steve, a member of the group who
now owns a business in San Francisco, says the Waldos would
salute each other in the school hallway and say ``420 Louis! The
term was one of many invented by the group, but it was the one
that caught on. ``It was just a joke, but it came to mean all kinds of
things, like `Do you have any? or `Do I look stoned? he said.
``Parents and teachers wouldn t know what we were talking about.
The term took root, and flourished, and spread beyond San Rafael
with the assistance of the Grateful Dead and their dedicated cohort
of pot-smoking fans. The Waldos decided to assert their claim to
the history of the term after decades of watching it spread, mutate
and be appropriated by commercial interests. The Waldos contacted
Hager, and presented him with evidence of 420 s history, primarily
a collection of postmarked letters from the early 70s with lots of
mention of 420. They also started a Web site, waldo420.com. ``We
have proof, we were the first, Waldo Steve said. ``I mean, it s not
like we wrote a book or invented anything. We just came up with a
phrase. But it s kind of an honor that this emanated from San
Rafael. Maria Alicia Gaura for the San Francisco Chronicle,
4/20/00 p. A19; and thanks to Noah Cole for the submission

Alternate explanations

There are a variety of other explanations, all much more interesting
than police code, and many plausible. Some are more likely uses
of the 420/hemp connection rather than sources of it, such as the
score for the football game in Fast Times at Ridgement High,
42-0.

Known Myths: It isn t police code (see above). There are 315
chemicals in marijuana, not 420. And although tea time in
Amsterdam is rumored to be 4:20, it is actually 5:30 (Gerhard
den Hollander).
Sixties Songs: For instance, Bob Dylan s famous Rainy Day
Women #12 and 35 is a possible reference, or source --
12x35=420. And Stephen Stills wrote (and Crosby Stills Nash
& Young performed) a song 4+20 (first recorded 7/16/69,
released on Deja Vu 3/11/70) about an 84-year-old
poverty-stricken man who started and finished with nothing.
(Thanks to Sherry Keel 12/6/98.) Dylan aslo mentions 4 and
20 windows in The Balland of Frankie Lee and Judas Priest
(on John Wesley Harding).
Older Verse: But 420 in poetry is older than that - Greg
Keller notes the old nursery rhyme line, four and twenty
black birds baked in a pie. Revelation 5:14 (in the King
James Version of the Christian Bible) reads, And the four
beasts said A-Men. And the four and twenty elders fell down
and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever. (Travis
Spurley 2/15/99) And in Midnight s_Children, Salman
Rushdie wrote, Inevitably, a number of these children failed
to survive. Malnutrition, disease and the misfortunes of
everyday life had accounted for no less than four hundred and
twenty of them by the time I became conscious of their
existence; although it is possible to hypothesize that these
deaths, too, had their purpose, since 420 has been, since time
immemorial, the number associated with fraud, deception and
trickery. (Comet 2/14/98) Comet s best guess is that this
refers to something in Indian mythology or numerology, since
the book is set in India and frequently involves Indian history,
culture, and religion. Given the high interest in Eastern
religion among the phish/dead community, this seems a likely
origin of 420 s current significance.
Temporal Significance: Hands on analog clock at 4:20 look
like position of doobie dangling from mouth Larry in
Tuscan and Alex Mack 5/19/99). Disruptive students are out
of detention and safetly away from school by 4:20, also
rumored to be the time that you should dose to be peaking
when the Dead went on stage Hart. The Waldos were a
group of teens back in the 70 s that lived in San Rafael, CA.
420 was the way they talked about pot in front of teachers,
non-smoking family members etc. Also it was the time of day
they could just go relax, and get baked. (PhunkCellar)
Jamaicans purportedly worked till 4 then walked home then
lit up. They would talk 420 like our parents talked about after
5. That s when partying began Larry in Tuscan). Albert (not
Abbie) Hofmann supposedly first encountered LSD at 4:20
p.m. on 4/19/1943 (Bart Coleman citing Storming Heaven by
Jay Stevens, recommended by Mickey Hart in Planet Drum).
Surrealist painter Miro was born April 20, 1893. And
www.filmspeed.com says the propoganda film Reefer
Madness has a copyright date of April 20, 1936 (i.e. 4/20).
(Patrick Woolford)
Misc: Could be that it comes from hydroponics, the practice
of cultivating plants in water often used by indoor marijuana
cultivators, since 4 is used for H on a calculator (420/H20).
(Nick Lowe 3/30/00) The number 80 (eight) is quatre vingt
(pronounced cah-truh vahn), meaning four (times} twenty.
Dan Nijjar 1/27/00 (No connection yet between the number
80 and pot. A quarter pound is roughly 120 grams, rounding
quarter-ounces to 7.5.) The titanic was supposed to arrive
4/20/1912. (Thanks to RB.) Perhaps the heavy use of vt420
terminals in the Berkeley area is to blame? (BTW, 420 in
binary code is 110100100.)

Ubiquitous?

Now there s a 420 Pale Ale. One of the late-97/early-98 Got
Milk ads featured a character eating cookies without milk and
then passing a sign that reads Next Rest Area 420 miles (as Ross
Bruning). Reportedly, all of the clocks in the movie Pulp Fiction
are stuck on 4:20. Shirts with the number 420 on the red-and-blue
interstate highway shield (Interstate 420?) have show up on the
sitcom Will and Grace (Paul Risenhoover 5/14/99) and in several
videos. UPS labelling software has a 420 postal code legend for
next-day/2-day deliveries (which is how Phish tickets are sent).
(Jack Lebowitz 10/3/98) MTV s 1997 Viewer s Choice Award (for
the MTV Video Awards) was decided by calls to
1-800-420-4MTV. And by May of 1998, the number was
appearing in so many ads (eg Copenhagen 5/14/98 Rolling Stone
p54, Corvette p55 5/98 Car & Driver) that its presence is
presumed to be intentional. Many songs are around 4 minutes 20
seconds long (since many songs fall between 2:30 and 5:30),
including for example Pink Floyd s A Great Day for Freedom (on
The Division Bell, 1994), the Foo Fighters My Hero, and
Smokin from Boston s first album. There have also been some
420 references on The Simpsons. In the re-run episode aired on
April 20th, 1999 at a special time (probably in honor of those
college students staying in the holiday spirit ;-), Homer mentions to
Flanders that Barney s birthday is April 20th. Also, the jackpot sign
in one part of the casino says $420,000. There are a couple less
concrete ones, but these two have to be legit, especially since they
decided to air THAT particular episode on 4/20/99. (Submitted by
Matt Meehan 4/21/99) And (as of Fall 99) the 60 free minutes that
Working Assets Long Distance offers, at the 7 cents per minute
rate, is $4.20 free. There s even a band named 420, and another
names . In the first fifteen pages of Karel Capek s novel War with
the Newts, a man diving under wonder stayed down for four
minutes and twenty seconds. Grant Garstka 1/6/00 At the
suggested retail price ($3.96) and Michigan (6%) sales tax, a deck
of Uno cards costs $4.20. Nic Boris 4:20 marks the first downbeat
of the drums in Led Zeppelin s epic Stairway to Heaven. (Dan
Harris) The bill authorizing force after the World Trade Center
attacks of 9/11/01 passed 420 to 1, and news reports in following
months noted many times that there are (or were then, anyway) 420
airports in the U.S. Allan Morris And don t forget that Adolf Hitler
was born on April 20, macabely celebrated (or at least
referenced) via the Columbine High School shootings.

Phish-related Occurances

Whatever the origin, the number appears frequently... For the
summer 1997 tour, TicketMaster service charges were $4.20. In
the Fall 1997 Doniac Schvice Dry Goods section, a limited edition
Pollack poster printed on 100% hemp is order number 420P. The
Great Went was 420 miles from Boston (former home of Phish).
The official logo includes 4 gills and 20 bubbles (Gringo
11/12/98). As of 6/15/97, including covers and originals, Phish
had performed a total of 420 songs (thought its 486 by 4/24/98).
(David Steinberg). Lawnboy is 420megs of memory. Patrick
Walker Phish s The Vibration of Life underlies a whirling loop
with Seven Beats per second (which makes 420 beats per minute.)
Trey has used the altered line woke up at 4:20 in Makisupa
Policeman, which also often indirectly celebrates 420ing, e.g. by
mention of goo balls. One of the funniest shirts around takes light
jabs at both the 4:20 phenomenon and the rumored evolution
(collapse?) of the Phish.Net (especially rec.music.phish) from
being Gamehendge to Flamehendge, and beyond. The first day of
the Great Went started at 4:20 (with Makisupa Policeman. (The
second day started late, at 4:37.) Noah Cole The first single from
Slip Stitch and Pass was played on WBCN 10/14/97 at 4:20 pm.
An uproar at 12/31/96 can be heard on tape during the 2001, in
response to an enormous digital clock (which was counting down
to midnight) reaching 11:55:40 and reading -4:20. (Yoda)
During the 9-12-00 2001, Trey hits the first riff right at 4:20 into
the intro jam. (Cal 2/25/01) Some mail order tickets for the 1997
New Year s run were in section 420. The first Mass Pike toll
leaving Oswego was $4.20. (Camille Heath ) And the standard
shipping for The Phish Companion through Amazon was
originally $4.20.

420 Shows: Phish performed on April 20 in 1989, 1990, 1991,
1993, and 1994. The first day of the Great Went started at 4:20,
although that was called a soundcheck by Trey after three songs.
The Jazzfest Harry Hood 4-26-96 started at about 4:20 reported by
Trevor. At Big Cypress, David Bowie was playing at 4:20 a.m.
And the one event during the hiatus (10/8/00 - ?) featuring all
four members - for Jason Colton s wedding - was 12/1/01, 420
from: http://www.phish.net/faq/n420.html:

It's an Orwellian rip-off (4, Interesting)

WIAKywbfatw (307557) | more than 12 years ago | (#3747018)

Have you read George Orwell's 1984?

The three slogans of the Party say it all:

War Is Peace
Slavery Is Freedom
Ignorance Is Strength


Not a large jump from those to Speilberg's "Safety Is Freedom".

(Check out http://www.newspeakdictionary.com for more, including the full text of 1984.)

Re:Tagline (1)

2nd Post! (213333) | more than 12 years ago | (#3747037)

Yeah, I'm sure you want to be unbuckled.

I don't.

I understand the law is a pointless one, because Darwinian selection (those who belt up survive more accidents than does who don't) will work perfectly in this situation.

I still don't think the idea is stupid (Everyone should buckle up), even if the enforcement is (Fine everyone who isn't buckled up)

Anyway, I hope I don't run into you sometime in traffic. You know I'll be buckled up at least.

Ahhh the California seatbelt law! (2, Insightful)

Newer Guy (520108) | more than 12 years ago | (#3747063)

That would be the law that they pawned off on us about 10 years ago by saying: "This is for YOU...besides, we'll only cite someone $15.00 for not wearing their seatbelt if we've pulled them over for another infraction". Based upon these safeguards, the voters in California approved a seatbelt law... WELL GUESS WHAT?? Seems a couple of years ago, the CA legislature changed the law...without telling or involving the voters. Now they CAN pull you over JUST for not wearing your seatbelt..and the fine is now more then doubled too... This is how government works...they get the citizens to allow the door to be cracked open...next thing you know the door has been removed from its hinges!

Re:Tagline (5, Insightful)

sheetsda (230887) | more than 12 years ago | (#3747064)

bastardizing something that Ben Franklin had said regarding the most basic of human freedoms

While looking through a quote book looking for that quote, I found:

"Since the general civilizations of mankind I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." --James Madison

Rather appropriate to our current situation IMO.

Ministry of Silly Walks (4, Funny)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746809)

> Spielberg: "What really disturbs me - a nerd who does have a weird walk - is that I imagine that suddenly a van pulls up and hauls me into an interrogation, you know, for being original ... or for being different."

Huh? Spielberg's going dystopian? Sounds more like Monty Python!

He's go nothing to worry about... (3, Funny)

Codex The Sloth (93427) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746853)

No one's going to arrest Spielberg for being original or different...

Re:He's go nothing to worry about... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746999)

" No one's going to arrest Spielberg for being original or different..."

Huh?!? What brought that on?

Privacy as the new currency? (2, Insightful)

UnknownQ (84898) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746812)

I definately think privacy is used as a sort of currency in today's technological world. People will pay in goods and services if you fill out a survey. I'm ok with that, as long as I know what I'm getting for my privacy. What I hate is when punks steal my privacy.

Re:Privacy as the new currency? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3747047)

I definately think privacy is used as a sort of currency in today's technological world.

Well, that's ok, as long as it comes in more than one color.

creepy future. (4, Interesting)

Alien54 (180860) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746815)

I find it refreshing that artist such as Spielberg are able to shine some sort of light on these issues, engcouraging debate, and hopefully taking some of the wind out of the sails of those that do not see the danger and bad side effects of their proposed solutions.

Some of the scenes of targeted marketing, projecting ads towards you as you walk down the hallway, all tailored just for yuo are pretty spooky.

some of the depicted technology looks downrigt creepy. and that is just from the marketing side, nevermind the government side.

the ultimate in spam, everywhere you go.

Re:creepy future. (-1)

on by (572414) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746891)

ZDNet has an interesting article here [zdnet.com]

Re:creepy future. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3747045)

Yaeh, i'll be fun to see "enlarge your penis" ads everywhere!

babbling (5, Interesting)

neildogg (119502) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746819)

Okay, so if these pre-cogs can see into the future, and through this the cops can arrest the people before they commit the crime, how can the pre-cogs see that the crime was committed. ie the only crime that the pre-cogs should be able to see is crimes that the cops are unable to stop. and if the cops can't see any crime that they can stop, then what would be the point?

In regards to this discussion, I'm unsure about how we've managed to have this society where we watch so carefully airport passengers, yet allow millions of people to drive, AFTER undergoing a test of their aptitude when they shouldn't be able to drive at all. Besides that, there are stories of STOP signs being removed, stop lights malfunctioning, etc. We all know driving is dangerous, yet no one seems to care about preventing accidents when it should be so balantantly easy if things were as tight as they are in the FAA. Flying sucks, I grew up enjoying flying, but I'm not sure where it went wrong. I feel like I've done something wrong when I fly and I don't like it.

Just saw minority report (4, Informative)

martyn s (444964) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746820)

I just came back from minority report, and I really got a say, it sucks almost as bad as AI did. I was expecting a really profound message, and was very excited to see it, considering the current political climate, but you don't get anything profound or interesting from this movie. The worst part is the way spielberg explains everything out to you and treats you like a child. Spielberg has ruined *two* films that had great potential. AI, and now this.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

At rottentomatoes.com they say that 96% of reviewers give Minority Report a positive review. Don't listen to them.

Re:Just saw minority report (-1)

on by (572414) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746897)

ZDNet has an interesting take on the matter here [zdnet.com]

can't let that go (5, Interesting)

seanw (45548) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746908)

and don't listen to anyone who states their opinion as though it's some kind of fact. I also got back from seeing this movie about an hour ago, and have already decided I consider it the best of the year so far. and I have a feeling a won't be able to forget it overnight.

I'm not going to post a full review here, but suffice to say my only criticisms are that it felt a bit long, and that some of the ideas could have been better developed (there's a LOT of ideas in this movie). but concepts aside, it absolutely grabbed me on a viscreral and emotional level. I knew it had worked for me when I walked out of the theater and took several minutes to fully reacclimate to the normal world--it was almost like culture shock. to each their own opinion, I say.

sean

Re:can't let that go (3, Informative)

martyn s (444964) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746938)

Let me say something, before you judge me: I was *really* excited to see this movie, and I don't overanalyze movies the way you seem to think I am. If something "grabs me on a visceral and emotional level" I'll love it and that's all there is to it. All the analyzing in the world won't be able to make me think a movie that makes me feel that way is bad (see gattaca, truman show).

Not only that, I was really really primed to LOVE this movie. I was already thinking about seeing it again, before I saw it the first time.

But it just didn't work out that way, and I'm very disappointed. I'm sorry I sounded like I was stating my opinion as a fact. I thought I made it pretty clear that most critics disagreed with me (96% on rotten tomatoes). Without saying anything about how any of you will enjoy the film, let me be clear: *I* did not enjoy the film. YMMV

Re:can't let that go QWZX (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746953)

I made another post about this, but you may want to give A.I. another chance, or a couple of chances. The movie has a LOT of hidden levels and meaning. This site [mysteriesofai.com] (which unfortunately isn't fully updated) has a lot of information about the symbolisms in the film. It's really a lot deeper than you might think if you didn't pick up on things the first time.

Re:can't let that go QWZX (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3747022)

I see dead people???

Re:can't let that go (2)

seanw (45548) | more than 12 years ago | (#3747010)

hey, no big deal--I wasn't attacking you so much as defending the movie. I am sorry you had such a crappy experience. I think to some extent it's a symptom of our culture (and one that Minority Report commented on) that movies are hyped so far over the top. it generates a box office bash, but also a lot of disappointed movie fans. thanks for replying, though.

sean

Re:can't let that go (1)

fizban (58094) | more than 12 years ago | (#3747041)

If you shoot for the stars and end up getting the moon, you still didn't get to the stars and that sucks. If you shoot for the moon and get it, then you're doing pretty darn well, I'd say.

It's your own damn fault for expecting more out of a movie than it can give you.

Gattaca a bad movie? You're kidding, right? (4, Insightful)

WIAKywbfatw (307557) | more than 12 years ago | (#3747065)

You thought Gattaca was a bad movie?

I don't know about the rest of the Slashdot crowd but I know I speak for more than a handful of people when I say that Gattaca was perhaps one of the best pieces of sci-fi that I've ever seen on the big screen.

Yeah, it doesn't have a ton of special effects but the film has everything - a good basic story, a few twists along the way, some great performances and a message that stays with you longer than the time it takes for the end credits to finish.

Compared to today's average "sci-fi" film - dross that's nothing more than eye candy, such as ID4 - Gattaca is mana from heaven.

If only all sci-fi was as beautifully-crafted and thought-provoking.

Re:can't let that go QWZX (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746942)

I haven't seen Minority Report, but from your description I have a feeling it's a similar deal to A.I. It took me days to recover from A.I., and it still somewhat haunts me.

These sort of movies you have to look beyond the surface and dig down through the levels.

(Off Topic: To those who hated A.I.'s ending, ask yourselves: Was Monica real at the end?)

HOW COME? (-1, Offtopic)

newerbob (577746) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746821)

How come I never get any mod points? I'm a great slashdotter with a Karma of 49, but I haven't had any mod points in _months_.

Too bad somebody couldn't sell me any on ebay [ebay.com] .

Re:HOW COME? (0, Offtopic)

MisterBlister (539957) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746858)

I dont think mod points really exist anymore. At any rate its been maybe a year since ive seen any under my various accounts, some of which are still above 50 karma

Re:HOW COME? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746937)

I have karma = 12 and I had 5 points for modding yesterday.

What happens is if you mod something in a way that the karma whores dislike, or if one of the slashdot editors don't like, you don't get to moderate any more. Ever.

Make a new account.

Re:HOW COME? (-1, Troll)

newerbob (577746) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746963)

How about if I give CowboyNeal the best blowjob he's ever had? Would that get me some mod-points?

Obviously? (0)

cybermint (255744) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746822)

I am not going to ask "Does this run Linux ?" because it obviously does not, but can anyone point to some good resources on what kind of Operating Systems do these monster machines run ? Are they some kind of a UNIX ? Or are they some elite breed of OS that mortal humans have no chance of understanding ? Linkage appreciated.

Re:Obviously? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746874)

What you say !!

Padilla?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746827)

Hmmm.... I wonder if Mr. Padilla sitting in a jail cell right now for looking at stuff on the internet concerning bomb making would find this movie interesting.

Oh come on (0, Troll)

Dan Hayes (212400) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746834)

We've heard this all before after Columbine and other such incidents here in the US; indeed there was plenty of coverage right here on /. about things like WAVE and so on. It's definitely not new, and just because some famous filmwriter and director starts talking about it doesn't make it any more real or dangerous.

Because after all if recent events have shown us anything it's that there are people out there who are willing to risk everything in order to acheive their goals. The frightening difference between these people and normal, less dangerous terrorists like say those in Ireland is that they don't care if they die as long as they get the job done, which means they will take any risk at all! Clearly this death wish is not normal. No sane, healthy person could be willing to give up their own life for any nonsense cause like religion. And if these people aren't normal, then we need some way to be able to find these people before they strike! That's just obvious! Do we want another 9/11? No! Profiling is a quite advanced science, as evidenced by some of the successes agencies like the FBI have had with serial killers. There is no reason, other then the squeamishness of liberals for it not to be used, and used successfully in the defense of our nation against the religious loonies that are desparate to bring it down. And so we must be prepared to accept some limits to our freedom in order to defend ourself; this is not only practical, but it is sensible, and those that argue against it are hindering national defense.

Oh come on, yourself (1)

loucura! (247834) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746907)

Why is it that everyone who makes this argument comes off as sacrificing MY freedom for their own security? If you're so scared of another group of airplanes being crashed into Tourist Attractions, stop building tourist attractions, or move somewhere that doesn't have any.

Keep your grubby hands off from my freedom.

So... (0, Troll)

Dan Hayes (212400) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746948)

If you're so scared of another group of airplanes being crashed into Tourist Attractions, stop building tourist attractions, or move somewhere that doesn't have any.

... why does it sound to me as if you're more interested in your own freedom that those of everyone else? What about the freedom to live from fear, the freedom to be able to make your choices without having options imposed upon you by faceless terrorists?

Do these count in your book? It doesn't sound like it!

Freedom is nothing without security, because without security you cannot truly be free. Therefore freedom is dependant upon security, and for you to argue otherwise is nonsense. Our Founders understood this; just look at the Second Amendment for a fine example of how they saw the need for security as being paramount!

Re:So... (2)

Pedersen (46721) | more than 12 years ago | (#3747028)

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

You mean that second amendment? The one which basically states that individual security belongs in the hands of the individual?

Yes, those other freedoms do count. And if you want them, take them. But do it without infringing on my personal freedoms. It's not that difficult.

Re:So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3747036)

...what about the freedom to live from fear...

Where in the constution do you find any guarantees agains fear?

...Our Founders understood this...
Do you really think Ben Franklin would have approved of you wanting to become a slave, if only the government would save you from your fear?

I am afraid (1)

dreadlord76 (562584) | more than 12 years ago | (#3747058)

Living in fear....

I am afraid of
I can't drive to work without being pulled over
because I am black

I am afraid of
I can't use public transportation
because I am brown

I am afraid of
I can't pray to my god
because I am a Protestant

I am afraid of
I can't kneel to my god
because I am a Muslim

I am afraid of
Being shot by some moron
excercising his second ammendment rights of carrying a gun into a restaurant or a school.

I am afraid of
The police will do a body cavity search on someones daughter
Because she dresses weird


I am not afraid of dying. Knowing that I can live without fear.

Re:Oh come on (1)

moyix (412254) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746973)

they don't care if they die as long as they get the job done ... No sane, healthy person could be willing to give up their own life for any nonsense cause like religion.

Huh? What happened to "Give me liberty, or give me death" ?

Pure rhetoric (1, Troll)

Dan Hayes (212400) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746994)

What happened to "Give me liberty, or give me death" ?

Like many other things that the Founders said, this was just a rhetorical device. If you really want to see what they meant and believed in you just need to look at the Constitution and what they thought was important enough to set into stone.

Why is the Second Amendment one that specifically gives us the security to defend ourself, if not to ensure freedom is preserved? The Founders knew that freedom and security were two sides of the same coin, and that sometimes we must decrease one to increase the other but that in the end it is all one and the same.

Re:Pure rhetoric (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3747050)

...but that in the end it is all one and the same...

So...absolute security = absolute freedom? If I lock you straightjacketed in a padded cell you'll certainly be secure. Will you be free?

Words mean something buddy. Think before you post.

95% chance you are going to commit a crime... (0, Offtopic)

dreadlord76 (562584) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746995)

I am an absolute conservative. Heck, I voted for Buchanon.
Please define what sanity is when someone is willing to kill hundreds, or thousands of people on a whim, regardless if they themselves are planning to live or not????
Lets see, another 9/11, or another Internment camp of "May Become Guilty" people. Protection against unreasonable arrest and seizure, or live in fear of police because "Heck, the Oklahoma City Bomber was a White man in a rented truck, let's pick them all up!." (Gosh darn, White American Males Can't be terrorists, right?)
Your are correct in saying that Profiling is quite advanced. However, no one can give you an exact number on what someone MIGHT do.
Even if a Profiler can tell you there is an exact percentage, then at what percentage do you allow the police to break down someones door without evidence?
Use of profiling to assume any sort of guilt, is wrong.

Troll (0)

mstorer3772 (526790) | more than 12 years ago | (#3747024)

And ya caught me... I'll bite.

I'm just objecting to the whole tone of your message... you want to be safe and you're willing to spend the freedoms of those around you to have it... News flash: MY freedom is not YOURS to give away. And the worse things get, the closer to that 'willing to die for' line I get... not that I'm anywhere near it now, but maybe some day.

Furthermore, the whole "anyone who would die for a cause is a nut" angle rubs me the wrong damn way.

Is there NOTHING that you would die for? That you would kill for?
To protect your loved ones?
To protect a total stranger? (die? nah... but kill... tough call)
To protect someone with whom you share quite a bit (a buddy from work?).

Is there nothing in this world that is more valuable to you than your own life? I've met people who's answer to that was 'no'. Selfish (and often lonely) bastards, every one. I pitied them.

So there are people... perfectly reasonable people... who would rather lay down their lives than see X happen.

Just because you perceive religion to be unimportant, doesn't make it so to others. Sorry.

Having said that, suicide bombing for Islam isn't the act of a healthy individual. One of the tenants of Islam (as I understand them... could be off here) is that you not attack an unarmed person... that includes a soldier that just dropped their weapon. The Old Testament lays it out quite simply: Don't kill. Crusaders, suicide bombers... same deal. Both are (or were) wrong based on a straight-forward interpretation of their own religions.

To wrap up this not-so-little tirade:
1) trading safety for freedom is bad.
2) there are things in this world that I hold to be more valuable than my life. I am not alone. I am not any more (or less ;) crazy than the next guy.
3) 9/11 sucked, but seeing the US turned into a police-state sucks MORE.
4) Various random and/or spastic points with only tangential relevance.
5) You're wrong. Agree with me. ;P

Give credit where credit is due... (4, Insightful)

wrinkledshirt (228541) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746841)

I don't think Spielberg's the real expert here. AI was originally a project of Kubrick's, and Minority Report is based off PK Dick, both of whom were troubled about the future while Spielberg thought it would be a hoot doing movies about trucker road rage and aliens who can make bikes fly.

Although I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that he'd try to capitalize on current social context to pump up his own film... Ah, yes, "relevence"...

Re:Give credit where credit is due... (5, Interesting)

Macrobat (318224) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746962)

I shouldn't be surprised that he'd try to capitalize on current social context to pump up his own film...

Maybe that's what he's doing, but the message that you can't trust a pre-emptive police state is written pretty obviously throughout the movie, and it went into production before 9/11. So he's capitalizing on a wider social context than just the current hysteria/paranoia. And why shouldn't he? Don't artists get to criticize society? And does doing a kiddie movie like E.T. automatically and forever prevent him from having anything to say about the world?

Re:Give credit where credit is due... (2)

elmegil (12001) | more than 12 years ago | (#3747017)

It's not like he came up with that message though. Go read the original short story by P.K. Dick. Actually, if what I've heard is true, the one thing I think I can probably give props to Spielberg here for is actually staying true to the original short story. Blade Runner, for all it's amazing qualities, is nothing like PK Dick's book, and don't even get me started on Total Recall....

Re:Give credit where credit is due... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746967)

Ah yes, "spell checker"....

Implementation (0)

cybermint (255744) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746854)

The problem with this idea is that its completely impossible to implement. There are no reliable ways of making sure that one person=one vote, no way of guaranteeing even participation geographically, economically, or any other way. Internet users nowadays are mostly people who log in to ISPs to use email and chat. They don't know what ICANN is, and don't care. Are you suggesting that voting on issues that affect so many naive users should be reduced to a tug-of war between nerds and corporations?

Re:Implementation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746893)

Having fun?

Re:Implementation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746894)

What you say !!


This exact comment has already been posted. Try to be more original...

Can the psychics see *this* in your future? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746867)

This song WILL cause your gut to bust!

funny song [goatse.cx]

Look, MOCs, just move your pointer over the link, you'll SEE it's not a link to the man himself, it's a song!!!

Not a troll, OT perhaps. But funny as hell!!

If Spielberg cares, then... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746869)

..he shouldn't fund terrorism.

But he does. He employs Tom Cruise, who will pay his cult, who will hire lawyers to attack innocent people.

It reminds me of that stupid drugs-terrorism superbowl commercial, except this one is real and the connection is obvious.

I'll pass on this movie, thankyouverymuch. Of if I do watch it, be assured it will be a pirated copy. Paying to watch this movie would be a form of treason.

Re:If Spielberg cares, then... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746992)

Actually, I think Cruise is the producer, but your point is still valid.

Just how much does Cruise give them? Will he give more if I see his movie?

Re:If you care, then... (1, Flamebait)

charon_on_acheron (519983) | more than 12 years ago | (#3747011)

...don't fund pedophilia.

Don't watch anymore movies that have Catholic actors/actresses/directors/screenwriters/etc. Since they may give part of their income to the Catholic Church, which has publicly stated its policy to not prosecute priests who abuse children.

You're not an anonymous coward, you're an anonymous idiot.

Re:If Spielberg cares, then... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3747012)

Send in the the SCIENTOLOGISTS. This AC is out of lin.
Jenna Elfman will stand up TOM.
Travolta will stand up for TOM.
--
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BOYCOT cruise.

Jamie Inglewood found dead in a hollywood cafe (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746877)

Who?!

IT's the guy who was found giving Tom Cruise a blow job a few months ago. AND THE REASON why sexy Nicole Kidman threw the ring on him.

RIP Jamie you had nice lips and a good male clit.

Cruise Voices His Concerns, too (1)

bgs006 (182777) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746880)

Though his intellect [lostbrain.com] is limited in comparison to Spielberg's.

If these pre-cogs.... (0, Troll)

newerbob (577746) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746886)

Okay, so if these pre-cogs can see into the future, and through this the cops can arrest the people before they strike! That's just obvious!

Do we want another 9/11? No! Profiling is a quite advanced science, as evidenced by some of the depicted technology looks downrigt creepy. and that is just from the marketing side, nevermind the government side.

The ultimate in spam, everywhere you go. Staring at Nothing writes "In this ABC News story famed Hollywood director Steven Spielberg voices some concerns over the current state of privacy and paranoia in a post-9/11 world. Some of Spielberg's recent movies, like AI and Minority Report have brought us haunting views of the future, but the present may be just as scary. He mentions software being developed to monitor "abnormal behavior" and concerns about originality being misconstrued as dangerous behavior."

The story has some minor plot spoilers about Minority Report. Okay, so if these pre-cogs can see into the future, and through this the cops can arrest the people before they commit the crime, how can the pre-cogs see that the crime was committed. ie the only crime that the pre-cogs should be able to see is crimes that the cops are unable to stop. and if the cops can't see any crime that they can stop, then what would be the point?

In regards to this discussion, I'm unsure about how we've managed to have this society where we watch so carefully airport passengers, yet allow millions of people to drive, AFTER undergoing a test of their aptitude when they shouldn't be able to find these people before they commit the crime, how can the pre-cogs see that the crime was committed. ie the only crime that the pre-cogs should be able to see is crimes that the cops are unable to stop. and if the cops can't see any crime that they can stop, then what would be the point?

In regards to this discussion, I'm unsure about how we've managed to have this society where we watch so carefully airport passengers, yet allow millions of people to drive, AFTER undergoing a test of their aptitude when they shouldn't be able to find these people before they commit the crime, how can the pre-cogs see that the crime was committed.

ie the only crime that the pre-cogs should be able to find these people before they strike! That's just obvious! Do we want another 9/11? No! Profiling is a quite advanced science, as evidenced by some of the depicted technology looks downrigt creepy. and that is just from the marketing side, nevermind the government side. the ultimate in spam, everywhere you go. Staring at Nothing writes "In this ABC News story famed Hollywood director Steven Spielberg voices some concerns over the current state of privacy and paranoia in a post-9/11 world. Some of Spielberg's recent movies, like AI and Minority Report is based off PK Dick, both of whom were troubled about the future while Spielberg thought it would be a hoot doing!

This is the first time ever, (0, Flamebait)

pornaholic (242268) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746910)

that we are beginning to understand what is needed for a system to monitor actions and trends on a large enough scale to even consider detecting abnormal patterns. We WILL have these systems eventually, but if it's taken us this long to start understanding what we need in the system, you can rest assured that it is going to take us a lot longer to get anything running that we will be even remotely confident in.

So basically, enjoy your privacy while you can, because it's disappearing quickly.

But what good was it anyway? SO WHAT if a computer knows you whack off to pictures of llamas (or any dromedary, I'm not trying to show preference)? Does that hinder your life in any way? And if it does hinder your life, what if by sacrificing your privacy and telling some mostly unaccessible system that you whacked off to llamas, you guaranteed that all the pedophiles in your town couldn't prey on YOUR DAUGHTER?

I'd tatto "TURTLE FETTISH" on my forhead if I knew it could actually stop some things from happening.

Re:This is the first time ever, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746980)


I'd tatto "TURTLE FETTISH"
[sic] on my forhead [sic] if I knew it could actually stop some things from happening.

And we are all delighted to see you exercise your freedom to do exactly that. We will object if you behave as though you had the right to tatto it on our foreheads.

Re:This is the first time ever, (1)

pornaholic (242268) | more than 12 years ago | (#3747031)

Nice job clouding the issue. Let's try it without bringing the /. buzzwords into it, and without being clear and concice. You've just used "freedom" interchangably with something I said, showing you had no clue what I was getting at.

Isn't this just publicity (1)

ngtni (470389) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746920)

for his new film?

Minority Retort (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746930)

With Tom Cruise's new movie Minority Report opening up, LostBrain thought we'd sit down with him and talk about it. We thought. But after leaving several messages with his publicist, including one that accused Cruise of being straight, we decided to make up an exposé. If you've ever wanted to know just what makes a make-believe Tom Cruise clit-tick, then this is going to be very make-believe insightful.

Meeting Tom Cruise at Musso and Frank's in Hollywood is kind of like meeting Brando at Tavern on the Green in Manhattan: both are famous places with, like, famous people. This is particularly poignant when you realize that Cruise is being likened to the middle-aged Brando, in other words, he's starting to become a fat-ass. As he takes on the Mission Impossible of trying to find a chair big enough for his expanding buttocks, one is left to admire just what those cheeks have seen between them. A lot of action.

Action movies have been his bread and butter, and as he orders another vat of Country Crock, I wonder if he's feeling the pressure to overcome a "Vanilla Sky" that tasted more like a chocolatey cancer-ridden prostate. "Yes," Cruise begins, licking that cone for all it's worth (roughly $1.20 retail), "it was hard for me to read those reviews." Especially since Cruise has dyslexia, a disease that affects millions of dumb Americans. Cruise, who was diagnosed later in life, says Scientology was a key part in solving this "learning puzzle."

"I was reading this great book called 'Scitenaid' when one of my Scientology teachers said, "No, the book's called 'Dianetics'," Cruise admitted. "I'd always tried to read between the lines, but, as my bud LeRon, or L. Ron Hubbard, as he's otherwise known, always said, 'Tommy, how can you read between the lines when you can't even read the lines themselves?' I thought at the time he was laughing at me, but now I see that behind the pedophilia, larceny and unfathomable evil, there was a man just trying to help."

After finishing his Caesar Salad and glass of 1% milk, Cruise suggested we take a drive in his new Camry. "There's a reason why the first three letters in 'Toyota' are 'Toy'!" he exclaimed. After helping Cruise stack the obligatory phone books on the car seat so he could reach the pedals, he gave me a Maverick-like smile and a knowing wink. "I hope you're not a Celica Man."

Highway 101 felt like the mouth of a diuretic-filled whale, splotchy, tired and filled with candy bars. Cruise let out a throaty yelp as he gunned it to 40 mph. When I told him the speed limit was 65, he gave me a "gotcha" cluck from his simplistically sexy mouth and proceeded to stomp the choking accelerator. It wasn't pretty, unlike him. "Do you know that I made my own cocktails in 'Cocktail?'" he asked me, not putting too much emphasis on the 'cock' part of the word 'cocktail', but also not putting too little as to make me think he was trying too hard to avoid that part of the word altogether.

When we pulled into the drive-thru of the seedy Carl's Jr. restaurant, I wondered if this was really best for his diet. "Not for me," he quickly explained, "it's for my kids." And there's a glint in his eyes when he says 'kids,' as if had the word for children been 'cockids' he would have had no problem yelling the first four letters, no matter the consequences. "My kids love burgers. And I love my kids."

I nodded softly. "Can you say 'cockamamie?'" I asked. Alas, he could not.

When we got to his home, a cordoned mansion made completely from stone-washed Lycra, I had to ask myself how he could play such everyday characters and yet live in such unusual luxury. "I don't," Cruise responded. "I play secret agents and sports agents." Then I had to ask myself how he answered my question without me ever asking it. "I didn't," Cruise responded again. "I'm simply the voice in your head. Everyone's inner voice sounds like me. Because if it sounded like you then your inner voice would be as mundane as your outer voice. At least this way you can be a star on the inside." Satisfied with this answer, I flushed the denim toilet and rejoined the actual Cruise in the backyard.

I found him playing with his kids and their family dog Legend. Though Cruise repeatedly pleaded with me to leave them out of the interview I can't help but say this--his love for them is like a warm tidal wave that rinses the blackheads out of your pores, the puss-filled ones, the ones that you thought would never be cleansed. But somehow are.

Even Tom Cruise Gets the Blues

As he showed me to the satin door I asked him if there was anything about "Minority Report" that mirrored his life. He froze and began to tremble. Then they came. In rushes. Salty, translucent tears. Wonderful tears. I put an arm around him. He shuddered. "'Minority Report' is about a man sentenced for a crime he'll only commit in the future. It reminds me of this whole homosexual accusation thing, you know?"

I nodded. "But doesn't that mean you're saying that you'll be gay in the future?"

He froze and began to tremble. "I just don't know anymore, you know?" It was clearly time to go.

The taxi pulled up and Cruise opened the door for me, slowly. My beautiful, sinewy bicep grazed his. We had made a deep connection. As I got in and he was about to close the door, his hand made a sweeping fashion to the driver. The driver was not to pull away. Not just yet. "I need to ask you this and I need the truth," Cruise whispered, looking off into the baking Hollywood sun. "Why didn't you ask me what kind of dog I had?"

I only stared ahead. The breeze played on my still, hapless face. "Because some things don't need to be said." Cruise made a peace sign to the dirt-caked window, or was it a "call me" sign, regardless, my yellow chariot flew away.

And it was only after a long time after that I felt the word "cocker spaniel" escape from my moistened, languishing lips.

Spielberg has been dystopian since AI (3, Interesting)

gad_zuki! (70830) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746939)

One of the press junkets for A.I. had a very transhumanist influenced Spielberg going about on the future and ended with a dire warning about how AI and robots are going to enslave humanity. Why 21st or 22nd century A.I. would have the same needs and wants, if that's even possible, as an 18th century slaveholder is beyond me. Spielberg is a filmmaker - a storyteller first and a philospher last.

As far as tracking and privacy goes, well we're going to have to expect a loss of privacy in public spaces. Its inevitable, so lets do it smart. The biggest and in my opinion most valid criticism of profiling software is that it just doesn't work. False positives are the norm and when it does work I wonder how much of a role lady luck in the form of lousy software played. Either its going to be Joe the Security Guard calling the shots or the software, and it looks like Joe's intuition at this point outperforms software.

As far as Columbine profiling paranoia goes, I'm certainly against it. But minors don't enjoy the rights the 18 and over crowd does and that isn't going to change soon. So if schools do start profiling the anti-social (or whomever) it would behoove all parties involved to look at the data objectively. I would prefer the end result to show the truth about many people classified as anti-social, geeks or whatever: that they're usually intelligent and good humored people that simply do not have the interests of your typical HS kid instead of the assumption that they're all borderline psychos.

If this stuff is going to happen I would rather see people concerned with oversight and disclosure instead of the head in the sand attitude of 'you can't fight city hall.'

Re:Spielberg has been dystopian since AI (1)

fizban (58094) | more than 12 years ago | (#3747004)

It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative without changing a single idea.

i.e. Liberals no what they're talking about, since everything they think today becomes the norm 20 years from now.

Re:Spielberg has been dystopian since AI (1)

fizban (58094) | more than 12 years ago | (#3747015)

oops, typing too fast. "Know," not "no."

they filmed part of this movie in my town (1)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 12 years ago | (#3746943)

I know it's off topic, but with a wopping 6 karma I don't care (although maybe i should). I've got a copy of the book on my monitor right now, signed by him and the short guy from Top Gun. Tom Cruise. I don't like him, but whatever. I guess i'll sell it if anyone wants it.

the cure that kills (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746951)

one thing that is interesting through history is how some people can claim to champion specific causes while being more of a destructive agent for that cause than their aleged enemies. Perhaps that is why in the US, the phrase was that it is eternal vigilance that is the price of freedom. If I claimed to champion equal rights and privacy, but yet destroyed others ability to live the lives they choose or express what they feel simply because it falls under my umbrella of naughtiness and negativity towards my sheltered and select protected few... then regardless of any arguments I can make I AM BY DEFINITION an agent of tyranny. Interesting is the word to describe how so many who are self proclaimed intellectuals (usually because they repeat and spout back rhetoric like good little parrots) will contradict themselves in ways that even small children can see is hypocritical.

Minority Report (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746968)

Here is my Minority Report.

Brown people smell like shit.

Thank you.

Correctional Officers' Union.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3746986)

The more progressive solution would be to work with the "accused" and help them avoid the act of murder. But I suppose this wouldn't be a profitable as incarceration.

I'm a class A terrorist threat (0, Flamebait)

t_allardyce (48447) | more than 12 years ago | (#3747030)

I've recently been working on an animation project (an atomic bomb). Its a kind of arty project but to get the right effects i spent allot of time reasearching nuclear weapons. I've visited hundereds of web-sites and downloaded close to 100Mb of test films, photos and written reports on nuclear effects, and the physics of nuclear explosions and mushroom clouds. If my isp looks through my logs (lets face it, someone probably does) what are they going to think? I know what i'd think. At school i was pretty much voted most-likely-to-become-a-terrorist. I have copies of the terrorists hand-book on my computer, I hate G.W.Bush (I even had 3 of my comments removed from slashdot for threatening the president:

here:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?
sid=02/0 2/17/208214&mode=nested&tid=126

)

Re:I'm a class A terrorist threat (1)

fizban (58094) | more than 12 years ago | (#3747051)

Perhaps you should talk about your emotions with someone who can help you analyze why you think all these things. Deep set hatred for things is usually based on something and finding other ways to cope with that something can help you get rid of your feelings of hatred and turn yourself away from the path of self-destruction.

The thought police are after me!!! AAAHH!!!! (1)

SHEENmaster (581283) | more than 12 years ago | (#3747066)

i love Big Brother. Thanks for helping me get a hold of myself.
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